My theory is that Barry will be older and will be in the same gen of heroes that Hal was in like the 90s or early 2000s and now Wally and John are taking up the mantles. And if Barry supposedly died in vanishing into the speed force, it could be a reason Hal will be kind of gruff in lanterns due to his best friend dying. Somebody like Neil Patrick Harris could be a good older Barry and a movie focusing on their past in that era would be great
@@Kalel2.0over that I’d rather Hal and Barry be best friends like the comics rather than being close to Bruce and Clark’s ages. Also John and Wally were in JL and JLU and it was great so I wouldn’t mind
This is an interesting theory but here are the only problems with it, 1. We don't know if Barry exists in the DCU & was or is the flash when Wally took up the mantle 2. It would be too early for him to be the flash unless if he does appear in the Titans movie & they have Flashbacks to when he was kid Flash & him becoming the flash
I would love at least ONE good Barry Allen solo Flash movie that understands the character without involving Flashpoint. Then, full-steam ahead, Wally. Also, I agree. Spider-Verse Flash would be interstellar.
As much as I love Barry they have been misunderstanding Barry for a decade now Barry’s reputation needs to regroup and build back up especially after Ezra so Wally is an out on that one
Hear me out: Barry Allen as Flash, Wally West as Kid Flash. I personally think that, while Wally is a great Flash, I personally prefer him as Kid Flash. That could just be the Young Justice bias though.
I respectfully disagree as much as Wally being Kid Flash is part of who he is and as much as Barry is my favorite Flash,Wally has been sidelined and gotten the short end of the shtick in live action for too long and has amazing stories that deserve the big screen treatment and if Dick is already Nightwing so it makes sense for Wally to be the Flash
I hope The Flash is going to be more like Makkhari in Eternals in terms of how fast he is. It would be better if he was more like a guy that can go fast rather than a guy that can slow down the rest of the world.
I get what you’re saying… but they’d have to nerf Superman as well if they do that. If Flash is only as fast as Makkari, then Superman would have to be even SLOWER than that. I think, maybe Superman should be the one to be as fast as Makkari, and that can allow for Flash to be faster… But if Flash wants to do something like “reverse time”, then it should be an actual struggle for him to do it. That way it’s not like he’s super OP and can do it whenever he wants.
@ I’m saying that he can start off as fast as Makkhari, the speed force stuff can be discovered later rather than have him be able to everything from the get go
the most interesting character constantly getting violated is killing me inside 😭. easily could've been the spiderman of DC but no lets get that awful movie with batman & superman characters in it.
Honestly i agree that Wally should be the main Flash and as much as a transition movie with Barry dying and passing the torch would be amazing,Wally has been ignored for too long and deserves to get some spotlight without being sidelined however I honestly hate the idea of Barry being almost 60 years old😂 like Hal and would rather he be shown as Clarks age when he's dead/trapped in the speed force.
They could have him be Superman’s age when he goes into the speed force and just not age when he comes out making him a Wally around the same age. Just a thought
Well, first I want the actual movie to be good lol. But yeah, after that I want it to make a lot of money. Although I think a billion dollars is a bit unrealistic.
@@eugger3011 Nah, If Joker and Aquaman (both of which had NO reason to make a Billion) can both do it then Superman should be able to. Hell, I hope it makes 2 Billion. A Movie like Captain Marvel only made a Billion because It was Sandwiched between two of the most Important Movies of the Last Decade, Otherwise It wouldn’t even had Broke Even. Unnecessary but whatever. I really Superman is God-Tier and makes so much Money that WBD lets Gunn COOK.
@@therealmr.incredible3179 Tbh ur right, I forgot about Aquaman making that much (Joker making a billion was mostly due to high critical acclaim from the general film community, not just comic book movie fans). But that was during a time of less "superhero fatigue". Nowadays in order for a CBM to make that much I think it needs to be a big team-up movie. Hopefully that changes and we get a resurgence from both Marvel and DC, but that's the state of the industry right now. But I can still see Superman making $1B despite that. I'm just saying that it's fine if it only makes $600-700M. It would be a solid start to the universe.
Personally I hope for Barry to be the Flash, give us a great flash movie or two, then have Barry die in one of the major films and Wally (who at that point would have been Kid Flash for a bit and is a member of the Titans) takes up the mantle
Now that we have Wally West, John Stewart, and with the existance of Kendra's Hawkgirl (implying Shayera being out there) are we getting the DCAU lineup for the JL?
If Wally is the current Flash of the DCU then that means Barry is either retired or missing, personally I would like him to stay missing for a while, let Wally have some time in the spotlight, he deserves it.
@@King-CosmoAlpha1 Exactly it would give Wally some much needed shine without Barry being physically there to shift the attention to plus it leaves the door open for a return in 8-10 years
I want Barry. I need to see the biggest hater reverse flash done on the big screen, and id hate to see that whole storyline given to wally. I feel like it would be a mistake to skip over one of DCs biggest villains. I like the idea of wally being kid flash to start off, doing titan stuff and taking up the mantle later on.
Reverse Flash isn't limited to being just a Barry villain, one of his best stories and one of the best Flash stories in general is actually a Wally story called Return of Barry Allen where he tries to steal Barry's identity and be the only Flash but is found out and has an iconic scene where Wally says "believe me you're no Barry Allen". Also it's later found out that he was the one that created Zoom because he wanted Wally to have someone like him to ruin his life. He can still be a villain and when he has been for Wally he wasn't rewritten to fit his Flash so that wouldn't happen.
@cadennichols351 I'm familiar with the story, but at the end of the day Reverse flash is the joker to Barry Allen's flash. To me the connection doesn't hit the same with Wally, and Zoom doesn't compare to Thwane imo. Don't get me wrong I love Wally West flash, I'd just rather see Barry's story first, have Wally with the titans and build up to him becoming the main flash, let Barry sacrifice himself in some huge event movie then have Wally take over.
@@cadennichols351 Don't do that man, Thwane is THE Barry Allen flash villain. It wouldn't hit the same with him going up against Wally, they'd have to go with Zoom and he doesn't hit the same as Thwane.
@@macho-yk2cc I'm not saying he has to only face Wally or something just that if they had Wally as Flash then it doesn't mean Reverse Flash is off the table. I agree that it would be better to have Reverse Flash face Barry. I'm hoping the first Flash movie is a prequel set in the 70s or 80s centered on Barry fighting Thawne and then the later movies will focus on Wally in the modern day with his own villains. I'd rather have Wally fighting Zoom, Savitar, Black Flash, or just the rogues before using Thawne for him.
@@elpolloloco8416 I agree 100% with that but the problem is that Dick is already Nightwing and Damien is Robin and Hal Jordan is in his 50s so the timeline would be really weird if Wally isn't Flash yet. We would lose the dynamic of Dick and Wally growing up together and graduating from being sidekicks because Dick would be a lot older and also Barry and Hal's friendship if Barry is so much younger. I think the best choice would be a prequel movie or series focused on Barry set in the past in the silver age and then movies for Wally in the modern day.
I mean, even with those cameos, it's not gonna be 100% the suit the characters will use in the projects they appear. Like, while we have a idea of what's gonna be Starfire design (more akin to the rebirth era), probably the material and aesthetic choices will differ from the animated cameo
I'm not sure it's Wally West as they never confirm it plus from the look of that belt it looks more like Barry Allen's early silver age costume. It's not confirmed to be Wally West as it's only going of an interviewer who thought Booster Gold was Wally. But it's hard to do Wally without Barry because of how nessescary Barry is as a part of Wally's origin story. I'd either have Barry and Wally both being the main flash or Wally being the main flash but Barry still having existing in the universe as a previous flash. Plus Reverse Flash is a big villain of the flash and his arch nemesis but that is Eobard Thawne. Although Hunter Zolomon's Zoom could work I don't think he'd get that much popularity simply by being compared to Eobard Thawne and by being compared to Zoom from the CW show who was amazing.
I think Cameron Monaghan should be Wally west, for those who don’t know who that is he was in Jedi fallen order as Kal Kestis and played joker in the Gotham series.
@@TheBlackLion001Thank You Very Much Buddy, you absolutely did a great favour for me, keep making great content, I absolutely love your videos, so excited to see DCU getting started.
I think it should start off with Barry Allen having a project and be a main justice league member and cameos. By the second justice league movie they could kill off Barry Allen and then make a flash movie with Wally west taking up the mantel of the flash.
Do you think Lucas Till should play Barry Allen Flash in James Gunn DC projects in the DCU as well as Jace Norman should play Wally West Kid Flash? It's about time we got actors playing characters who look like their comic book counterparts
I actually prefer Wally to use his Rebirth suit to be his main suit (the one with the expose hair) rather than his curent suit which similar to be Barry but with with eyes, i just think it looks Cooler with expose hair and blue Lightning also it's differentiate him from Barry Allen.
Wally West is my goat I hope he is the main version of The Flash in the DCU, Gorilla Grodd being one of the main big bags of Gods and Monsters would be really cool especially to have Wally West one of the main characters and heroes of this upcoming DCU Saga plus he is my favorite speedster from DCU. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Sugergirl, Robin(Damian Wayne, Starfire, Booster Gold, Peacemaker, Judomaster, Vigilante, Blue Beetle, Wally West Flash, Guy Gardner, Hawkgirl, Mr. Terrific, is insane I love the world building! I can’t wait for more CC episodes and I’m glad that we have Wally West as the man Flash in the DCU!
A solo live action flash film with a seasoned Barry showing the ropes to a young Wally could work. Then have Barry self sacrifice at the end to save the day, but in the process he either dies or is lost to time. Giving Barry a movie as the main character that all ties back to the time Barry died in the comics could help wrap a nice bow on what was a chaotic era for Barry Allen. And it would propel Wally into the spotlight as the new, main flash🤷🏼♂️
I think Pokolistan will be dealt with within CC, but the imprtant part of this vision that has relevant foreshadowing is Grodd being behind it. Perhaps we'll see his influence behind a lot of human conflict as he attempts a proxy takeover (Bavaria from the Supes trailer comes to mind). I think Grodd will be his first villain.
I would kinda like to see Barry get trapped in the speed force on screen, and watch Wally evolve from kid flash into the flash over the course of a film or two maybe even a show maybe he could be part of the titans and leave when he feels he had to become the flash after Barry disappears
The problem with wally as flash is, who is after wally. In like 10-20 years wally won't be flash anymore but there still needs to be a flash. Who would it be, Bart, he's never really had the role on a significant way. Unlike the lanterns who after John can use Kyle wally really is the end of the road for the main flashes. Having Barry leaves room to grow
James said there will be videogames cannon to the DCU. I think Barry and Hal will be two characters given videogames, while Wally and John lead their respective monikers in present day
I just love how you comment that the flash movie was so bad and it fucked up the flash. He was Barry in name but he acted like Wally West on steroids soooo maybe we need less of Wally don't you agree?
i think blending the main continuity dcu with animation is a kind of unique idea i think the characters should all have some chance in live action but being able to have an animated tv series into the mix of live action big movies is a very cool and from seeing creature commandos its a good idea and so far good execution too seeing supes in that one episode my thought was "thats david corenswet omg" and i loved that
I think personally we should get a flash movie with reverse flash and kid flash. Barry dies or “Disappears” at the end of the film leaving the mantle of the flash to wally. Imo nice way to please both us Barry fans and Wally fans.
I'm a Barry Allen fan, but agree that going with Wally West is the right move at this point (and I do think that's what James Gunn will do). I'm good with it as long as Barry is mentioned/referenced and there is a reason he's not the main Flash. Point taken about Flash being best suited for an animated TV show, I just hope he gets his own movie again eventually too. Yes, he's got a large rogues gallery, but if you give him a couple movies you can do the main ones (Reverse Flash and Grodd) and characters like the Rogues and his other villains are best suited for cameos anyway (or episodes of a TV show, to your earlier point).
This cameo shocked me as I didn't expect Gorilla Grodd to appear, especially since he's a prolific Flash supervillain. My fingers are crossed if the Flash gets a project set in this rebooted universe. Apparently, it also confirmed that the Flash that's killed in the vision is apparently Wally West's Flash, which makes sense and Im glad they're going with Wally West since I really do like Barry Allen and Im a fan of his character and stories in the comics I do think it makes more sense to do something different have Wally as our new Flash. Hopefully, they can establish that Wally was once Kid Flash and had his Uncle Barry as his mentor at one point before retiring or dying? Hopefull wif we o get a Flash project someday soon they use either Grodd or maybe the Rogue's as the main villain/s or even Reverse Flash if they wann go that route. I would absolutely love an animated Flash show or movie set in this universe to try and differentiate from the terrible DCEU Flash movie last year.
I hope that Barry is an older soul helping a new flash Wally west, and I hope sometime down the line he retires or sacrifices himself so Wally can be a more prominent figure in the dcu
You should do a Watchmen fan cast, I know it will be a long time for another live action Watchmen movie, but I am just so curious who you think could play the characters, espically Rorschach, I've went through loads of fancasts for Watchmen and I can never find a solid Rorschach fan cast, I'm starting to think only Jackie Earle Haley could play him
It should be a movie about Flash, which makes it better than that one movie Barry it should be 40th. This will be the beginning of Wally West's story, so this is my idea of story and casting 1. Shaun Sipos, as the Flash, he at the point of his life ready to hang up the suit and his Wally West he gets Struck by lightning and he helps him with his new power and take him under his wing 2. Michael Provost or Rudy Pankow as Wally West, bit lost in the moments, and his power makes him more confused about himself and be a superhero 3. Tatiana Maslany as Iris West she been married to Barry Allen for long time she ask him to help nephew she journalists she been thinking about renting and do something maybe start a family or business 4. Guy Pearce, as Reverse Flash, he travels back in time to Destroy Flash but decides to destroy the city and become new Flash 5. Piper Curda as Linda Pack, she moved to Keystone City to become of reporter she Accidentally bump into Wally West they became friends because she has no friends at Keystone City but they end up growing feel for interest
I don't get it we haven't gotten a comic-accurate portrayal of Barry Allen yet. I would like to introduce Barry first and then introduce Wally and have them both together.
I disagree that all it takes is like 20 characters to make a complete DC Universe. The universe of the comics is VAST. It’s great that Gunn and company are diving head first into the canon and providing a fuller universe, but we still have a ways to go before calling anything complete.
Theres no way Barry Allen is coming back, way too soon. I think we'll see Wally go from Kid Flash to the Flash proper. Good way to reintroduce the character and to have some continuity flowing through the DCU
4:10 person don’t know the guy so I will give that, but as an actor miller was a really great actor in the flash movie giving the right amount of emotion and energy to his scenes just see the finally to the flash with his mother and your eyes will tear up
I don’t want Barry dead in this universe. What I would do is make Barry an older flash like hal Jordan is to John Stewart in this universe. Basically I would make a flash movie that tells the origin of how wally becomes the flash. The movie would have Barry as the flash while wally is an adult who’s growing out of the mantle of kid flash. end of the movie Barry has kids with iris and lost his powers and wally becomes the main flash.
Aftrr the Supergirl movie of James Gunn, I want him to jump to a futuristic DC film in the year 3100 AD entitled LEGION OF SUPERHEROES where Supergirl is one of its heads since Supergirl can live immortal like Wonder Woman. This means same actresses (Milly Alcock) will play Supergirl and Wonder Woman respectively.
I really hope if they do animated it’s not like the terrible animation in the spider verse movies I really don’t like that style I can’t ever tell what’s going on
Har me out: Milo Manheim as Wally West/The Flash. He's only 23 so he would definitely be young enough to be Wally West whether it's Kid-Flash or Flash and his character in Netflix's School Spirits reminds me so much of Wally. He would just have to be ginger lol
You say they step away from Barry Allen, they've barely touched on Barry's character or even given him an animations that's just Barry no other justice leaguer
i believe barry would be in his 30s and wally will be in his late teens still a member of titans end of first saga, if you will, sees the end of grant gustin i mean barry allen’s flash and wally takes over as the flash
Honestly i want both Barry and Wally I think Barry needs another shot cuz Season 9 was not that bad but bad non the less and the movie was absolutely atrocious so i think Barry needs another shot at the DCU.
My theory is that Barry will be older and will be in the same gen of heroes that Hal was in like the 90s or early 2000s and now Wally and John are taking up the mantles. And if Barry supposedly died in vanishing into the speed force, it could be a reason Hal will be kind of gruff in lanterns due to his best friend dying. Somebody like Neil Patrick Harris could be a good older Barry and a movie focusing on their past in that era would be great
Yeah i also think barry and hal are gonna be in the same generation
I honestly kinda hate the idea that Hal and Barry are older than Bruce and Clark😂
@@Kalel2.0over that I’d rather Hal and Barry be best friends like the comics rather than being close to Bruce and Clark’s ages. Also John and Wally were in JL and JLU and it was great so I wouldn’t mind
This is an interesting theory but here are the only problems with it, 1. We don't know if Barry exists in the DCU & was or is the flash when Wally took up the mantle 2. It would be too early for him to be the flash unless if he does appear in the Titans movie & they have Flashbacks to when he was kid Flash & him becoming the flash
@@Kalel2.0 fair enough but i think we will get used to it. But hey john and wally are younger than them
I would love at least ONE good Barry Allen solo Flash movie that understands the character without involving Flashpoint. Then, full-steam ahead, Wally. Also, I agree. Spider-Verse Flash would be interstellar.
Yes me too. I’d love to have one good flash movie centered Barry Allen
As much as I love Barry they have been misunderstanding Barry for a decade now Barry’s reputation needs to regroup and build back up especially after Ezra so Wally is an out on that one
Hear me out: Barry Allen as Flash, Wally West as Kid Flash. I personally think that, while Wally is a great Flash, I personally prefer him as Kid Flash. That could just be the Young Justice bias though.
I agree with you
I respectfully disagree as much as Wally being Kid Flash is part of who he is and as much as Barry is my favorite Flash,Wally has been sidelined and gotten the short end of the shtick in live action for too long and has amazing stories that deserve the big screen treatment and if Dick is already Nightwing so it makes sense for Wally to be the Flash
@jjkm2945 I agree with you
I want to see Barry in some way, maybe even just a mentor in a Wally film before he dies
@JusMichae1-b9f that's if he dies but again we don't know if he going to be in the DCU
Have Barry be the Flash and Wally as Kid Flash, maybe show the passing of the torch down the line, but start with Barry
Wally West for the win.
That was barry he saw, you can see wally behind starfire. He has a yellow and red suit.
So i guess wally and Barry for the win
@DaWhisper N O
The only reason that I want Barry is so we can have a comic accurate flashpoint with the whole Justice League
@@DaWhisper ezra ruined barry for me
@@lucasroque754 They did that already. Twice. And thats only in DCMAU. I am not even counting Flash tv show and The Flash movie.
Give me Redhead Wally.
A flash tv show in the style of arcane would go so unbelievably hard
I hope The Flash is going to be more like Makkhari in Eternals in terms of how fast he is. It would be better if he was more like a guy that can go fast rather than a guy that can slow down the rest of the world.
It would be best for the universe if all the heroes aren't as OP as they are in the comics.
I get what you’re saying… but they’d have to nerf Superman as well if they do that. If Flash is only as fast as Makkari, then Superman would have to be even SLOWER than that.
I think, maybe Superman should be the one to be as fast as Makkari, and that can allow for Flash to be faster…
But if Flash wants to do something like “reverse time”, then it should be an actual struggle for him to do it. That way it’s not like he’s super OP and can do it whenever he wants.
@ I’m saying that he can start off as fast as Makkhari, the speed force stuff can be discovered later rather than have him be able to everything from the get go
Visually Makkhari was very unique in terms of showcasing Superspeed. Instead of having slowmo they just showed her as a literal blurr
Flash is faster then her
the most interesting character constantly getting violated is killing me inside 😭. easily could've been the spiderman of DC but no lets get that awful movie with batman & superman characters in it.
Honestly i agree that Wally should be the main Flash and as much as a transition movie with Barry dying and passing the torch would be amazing,Wally has been ignored for too long and deserves to get some spotlight without being sidelined however I honestly hate the idea of Barry being almost 60 years old😂 like Hal and would rather he be shown as Clarks age when he's dead/trapped in the speed force.
They could have him be Superman’s age when he goes into the speed force and just not age when he comes out making him a Wally around the same age. Just a thought
He doesn’t need to die he just needs a o retire like he did in the comics
@@jonathanhill3668 Barry's hasnt ever retired in the comics and his death is a big part of what makes Wally's journey intriguing
@ fun fact in the current comics Barry lost his powers and retired
He should be the same age as clark and have a trilogy with wally as kid flash then in a justice league movie or something he dies
Just hope that SUPERMAN makes a Billion Plus in Theaters. Everything else comes after.
Well, first I want the actual movie to be good lol. But yeah, after that I want it to make a lot of money. Although I think a billion dollars is a bit unrealistic.
@@eugger3011 Nah, If Joker and Aquaman (both of which had NO reason to make a Billion) can both do it then Superman should be able to. Hell, I hope it makes 2 Billion. A Movie like Captain Marvel only made a Billion because It was Sandwiched between two of the most Important Movies of the Last Decade, Otherwise It wouldn’t even had Broke Even. Unnecessary but whatever. I really Superman is God-Tier and makes so much Money that WBD lets Gunn COOK.
@@therealmr.incredible3179 Tbh ur right, I forgot about Aquaman making that much (Joker making a billion was mostly due to high critical acclaim from the general film community, not just comic book movie fans). But that was during a time of less "superhero fatigue". Nowadays in order for a CBM to make that much I think it needs to be a big team-up movie. Hopefully that changes and we get a resurgence from both Marvel and DC, but that's the state of the industry right now.
But I can still see Superman making $1B despite that. I'm just saying that it's fine if it only makes $600-700M. It would be a solid start to the universe.
i think they should start with Barry as the flash give him a trilogy and have wally take up the mantle after
As much as that would be cool that would just make general audiences hate Wally just look at how people feel about Sam Wilson’s Captain America
Bro that's not going to happen the flash movie bombed so hard they're not going to make a solo flash movie for years
Personally I hope for Barry to be the Flash, give us a great flash movie or two, then have Barry die in one of the major films and Wally (who at that point would have been Kid Flash for a bit and is a member of the Titans) takes up the mantle
hear me out grant gustin would be sick as young jay garrick
I agree he would
@@jakebraz3265 Just use movie magic to age him up and make him the full time old Jay Garrick in the DCU honestly
@@Kalel2.0Eh I'd think him as jay would work better in a JSA prequel
Nah, he’s not muscular enough.
Continue the tradition of using jay Garrick to pass the tourch
Now that we have Wally West, John Stewart, and with the existance of Kendra's Hawkgirl (implying Shayera being out there) are we getting the DCAU lineup for the JL?
i think so
Possibly as a future roster, but not a founding roster. We're getting JLI during Superman. I would presume JLA Pre-Zero Hour is the case later.
@@Superlad9494 i hope james gunn do crisis on infinte earth or zero hour as a over arching story for the multiverse
@carterblake-x3b probably going to set up Rebirth era stuff eventually, but I wouldn't put post-crisis out as the starting point.
@@Superlad9494 yeah i do see rebirth
I hope is still Barry since I prefer Wally with his rebirth outfit and in the titans with Nightwing
When is part 2 of what if the DCu had it's own cinematic universe coming out
No matter what they do with the Flash in the DCU, as long as Eric Wallace has nothing to do with any of it than we’ll be fine
If they do do Wally West Flash I hope they take inspiration from the Rebirth suit, which looks amazing
Wally West is the fastest Flash there is!
Personally no hate towards wally wests flash but i really prefer barry allen over wally west
If Wally is the current Flash of the DCU then that means Barry is either retired or missing, personally I would like him to stay missing for a while, let Wally have some time in the spotlight, he deserves it.
@@King-CosmoAlpha1 Exactly it would give Wally some much needed shine without Barry being physically there to shift the attention to plus it leaves the door open for a return in 8-10 years
Let’s hope they finally get the Barry Allen character right and not like Zack Snyder who butchered the Barry Allen character to a annoying werido
I want Barry. I need to see the biggest hater reverse flash done on the big screen, and id hate to see that whole storyline given to wally. I feel like it would be a mistake to skip over one of DCs biggest villains. I like the idea of wally being kid flash to start off, doing titan stuff and taking up the mantle later on.
Reverse Flash isn't limited to being just a Barry villain, one of his best stories and one of the best Flash stories in general is actually a Wally story called Return of Barry Allen where he tries to steal Barry's identity and be the only Flash but is found out and has an iconic scene where Wally says "believe me you're no Barry Allen". Also it's later found out that he was the one that created Zoom because he wanted Wally to have someone like him to ruin his life. He can still be a villain and when he has been for Wally he wasn't rewritten to fit his Flash so that wouldn't happen.
@cadennichols351 I'm familiar with the story, but at the end of the day Reverse flash is the joker to Barry Allen's flash. To me the connection doesn't hit the same with Wally, and Zoom doesn't compare to Thwane imo.
Don't get me wrong I love Wally West flash, I'd just rather see Barry's story first, have Wally with the titans and build up to him becoming the main flash, let Barry sacrifice himself in some huge event movie then have Wally take over.
@@cadennichols351 Don't do that man, Thwane is THE Barry Allen flash villain. It wouldn't hit the same with him going up against Wally, they'd have to go with Zoom and he doesn't hit the same as Thwane.
@@macho-yk2cc I'm not saying he has to only face Wally or something just that if they had Wally as Flash then it doesn't mean Reverse Flash is off the table. I agree that it would be better to have Reverse Flash face Barry. I'm hoping the first Flash movie is a prequel set in the 70s or 80s centered on Barry fighting Thawne and then the later movies will focus on Wally in the modern day with his own villains. I'd rather have Wally fighting Zoom, Savitar, Black Flash, or just the rogues before using Thawne for him.
@@elpolloloco8416 I agree 100% with that but the problem is that Dick is already Nightwing and Damien is Robin and Hal Jordan is in his 50s so the timeline would be really weird if Wally isn't Flash yet. We would lose the dynamic of Dick and Wally growing up together and graduating from being sidekicks because Dick would be a lot older and also Barry and Hal's friendship if Barry is so much younger. I think the best choice would be a prequel movie or series focused on Barry set in the past in the silver age and then movies for Wally in the modern day.
I'm surprised you didn't notice that the flash belt looks like barrys, wallys belt comes down to a point where Barry's is straight across
I mean, even with those cameos, it's not gonna be 100% the suit the characters will use in the projects they appear. Like, while we have a idea of what's gonna be Starfire design (more akin to the rebirth era), probably the material and aesthetic choices will differ from the animated cameo
You can see wally in a yellow and red suit, he's right behind starfire. I'm suprised no one has noticed this.
After creature commands ends can you make a vid comparing the designs of the character to your expectations
5:15 He crumbled into a crispy skeleton boy
I'm not sure it's Wally West as they never confirm it plus from the look of that belt it looks more like Barry Allen's early silver age costume. It's not confirmed to be Wally West as it's only going of an interviewer who thought Booster Gold was Wally. But it's hard to do Wally without Barry because of how nessescary Barry is as a part of Wally's origin story. I'd either have Barry and Wally both being the main flash or Wally being the main flash but Barry still having existing in the universe as a previous flash. Plus Reverse Flash is a big villain of the flash and his arch nemesis but that is Eobard Thawne. Although Hunter Zolomon's Zoom could work I don't think he'd get that much popularity simply by being compared to Eobard Thawne and by being compared to Zoom from the CW show who was amazing.
I think Cameron Monaghan should be Wally west, for those who don’t know who that is he was in Jedi fallen order as Kal Kestis and played joker in the Gotham series.
what about post credit scene of "The Flash" movie? do you have any theory about it
any opinions on dc heroes united?
Nope. I don't really play mobile games
@@TheBlackLion001 ok I brought it up cos its story focused - like an animated tv show pretty much
Starfire makes me so excited for teen titans
Please name the background music that's being played in this video, I've been looking it for weeks on internet and youtube.
Lakey inspired - chill day and Not for nothing - Otis McDonald
@@TheBlackLion001Thank You Very Much Buddy, you absolutely did a great favour for me, keep making great content, I absolutely love your videos, so excited to see DCU getting started.
Wally West fan club over here,Wally for the win
I think it should start off with Barry Allen having a project and be a main justice league member and cameos. By the second justice league movie they could kill off Barry Allen and then make a flash movie with Wally west taking up the mantel of the flash.
Do you think Lucas Till should play Barry Allen Flash in James Gunn DC projects in the DCU as well as Jace Norman should play Wally West Kid Flash? It's about time we got actors playing characters who look like their comic book counterparts
Who should play the Superman villains in the dcu?
I actually prefer Wally to use his Rebirth suit to be his main suit (the one with the expose hair) rather than his curent suit which similar to be Barry but with with eyes, i just think it looks Cooler with expose hair and blue Lightning also it's differentiate him from Barry Allen.
Speed Metal Wally....Best Wally! Also Linda approves of the Speed Metal suit so it's the right suit!
When will part 2 of your perfect dc universe come out?
Wally West is my goat I hope he is the main version of The Flash in the DCU, Gorilla Grodd being one of the main big bags of Gods and Monsters would be really cool especially to have Wally West one of the main characters and heroes of this upcoming DCU Saga plus he is my favorite speedster from DCU. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Sugergirl, Robin(Damian Wayne, Starfire, Booster Gold, Peacemaker, Judomaster, Vigilante, Blue Beetle, Wally West Flash, Guy Gardner, Hawkgirl, Mr. Terrific, is insane I love the world building! I can’t wait for more CC episodes and I’m glad that we have Wally West as the man Flash in the DCU!
A solo live action flash film with a seasoned Barry showing the ropes to a young Wally could work. Then have Barry self sacrifice at the end to save the day, but in the process he either dies or is lost to time. Giving Barry a movie as the main character that all ties back to the time Barry died in the comics could help wrap a nice bow on what was a chaotic era for Barry Allen. And it would propel Wally into the spotlight as the new, main flash🤷🏼♂️
you cant count Khaji Da, it can always be repaired and get a new host!
Now the only question is if he's wearing the 90's or Rebirth suit?
Wally should wear Rebirth: Speed Metal Suit.
Tf kinda thumbnail is this 💀
I think that is actually Barry Allen, not Wally West, I know we are getting the Teen Titans film, but why can't we have both of them during the DCU?
I think Pokolistan will be dealt with within CC, but the imprtant part of this vision that has relevant foreshadowing is Grodd being behind it. Perhaps we'll see his influence behind a lot of human conflict as he attempts a proxy takeover (Bavaria from the Supes trailer comes to mind). I think Grodd will be his first villain.
1:35 looks like he’s wearing trunks. Maybe aquaman?
barry with JL and wally with titans plss DC GODS plsss
I would kinda like to see Barry get trapped in the speed force on screen, and watch Wally evolve from kid flash into the flash over the course of a film or two maybe even a show maybe he could be part of the titans and leave when he feels he had to become the flash after Barry disappears
Lucas Hedges as Wally, the new Flash
Ryan Gosling as Barry, lost in time
You should make a sequel to your Ultron as the mcu main villain video
I just want to see Barry as flash and Wally as kid flash standing side by side on the big screen
The problem with wally as flash is, who is after wally. In like 10-20 years wally won't be flash anymore but there still needs to be a flash. Who would it be, Bart, he's never really had the role on a significant way. Unlike the lanterns who after John can use Kyle wally really is the end of the road for the main flashes. Having Barry leaves room to grow
When does your perfect dcu part 2 come out
Young Justice Kid Flash and Impulse were the best. I hope they take inspiration from those when implementing.
If they go for an older barry Allen I pray we get grant gustin
James said there will be videogames cannon to the DCU. I think Barry and Hal will be two characters given videogames, while Wally and John lead their respective monikers in present day
I just love how you comment that the flash movie was so bad and it fucked up the flash. He was Barry in name but he acted like Wally West on steroids soooo maybe we need less of Wally don't you agree?
i think blending the main continuity dcu with animation is a kind of unique idea i think the characters should all have some chance in live action but being able to have an animated tv series into the mix of live action big movies is a very cool and from seeing creature commandos its a good idea and so far good execution too seeing supes in that one episode my thought was "thats david corenswet omg" and i loved that
I think personally we should get a flash movie with reverse flash and kid flash. Barry dies or “Disappears” at the end of the film leaving the mantle of the flash to wally. Imo nice way to please both us Barry fans and Wally fans.
That flash take is extremely biased lol
I'm a Barry Allen fan, but agree that going with Wally West is the right move at this point (and I do think that's what James Gunn will do). I'm good with it as long as Barry is mentioned/referenced and there is a reason he's not the main Flash. Point taken about Flash being best suited for an animated TV show, I just hope he gets his own movie again eventually too. Yes, he's got a large rogues gallery, but if you give him a couple movies you can do the main ones (Reverse Flash and Grodd) and characters like the Rogues and his other villains are best suited for cameos anyway (or episodes of a TV show, to your earlier point).
This cameo shocked me as I didn't expect Gorilla Grodd to appear, especially since he's a prolific Flash supervillain. My fingers are crossed if the Flash gets a project set in this rebooted universe. Apparently, it also confirmed that the Flash that's killed in the vision is apparently Wally West's Flash, which makes sense and Im glad they're going with Wally West since I really do like Barry Allen and Im a fan of his character and stories in the comics I do think it makes more sense to do something different have Wally as our new Flash. Hopefully, they can establish that Wally was once Kid Flash and had his Uncle Barry as his mentor at one point before retiring or dying? Hopefull wif we o get a Flash project someday soon they use either Grodd or maybe the Rogue's as the main villain/s or even Reverse Flash if they wann go that route. I would absolutely love an animated Flash show or movie set in this universe to try and differentiate from the terrible DCEU Flash movie last year.
I hope that Barry is an older soul helping a new flash Wally west, and I hope sometime down the line he retires or sacrifices himself so Wally can be a more prominent figure in the dcu
How is the flash season 1 which was made in like 2015 better than a 2024 flash MOVIE
Wally west is also getting an absolute comic, where he’s the only flash, so yeha, makes sense he’s the flash in this universe.
Don’t forget because of the animated dynamic duo movie nightwing and red hood is basically confirmed
You should do a Watchmen fan cast, I know it will be a long time for another live action Watchmen movie, but I am just so curious who you think could play the characters, espically Rorschach, I've went through loads of fancasts for Watchmen and I can never find a solid Rorschach fan cast, I'm starting to think only Jackie Earle Haley could play him
It should be a movie about Flash, which makes it better than that one movie Barry it should be 40th. This will be the beginning of Wally West's story, so this is my idea of story and casting
1. Shaun Sipos, as the Flash, he at the point of his life ready to hang up the suit and his Wally West he gets Struck by lightning and he helps him with his new power and take him under his wing
2. Michael Provost or Rudy Pankow as Wally West, bit lost in the moments, and his power makes him more confused about himself and be a superhero
3. Tatiana Maslany as Iris West she been married to Barry Allen for long time she ask him to help nephew she journalists she been thinking about renting and do something maybe start a family or business
4. Guy Pearce, as Reverse Flash, he travels back in time to Destroy Flash but decides to destroy the city and become new Flash
5. Piper Curda as Linda Pack, she moved to Keystone City to become of reporter she Accidentally bump into Wally West they became friends because she has no friends at Keystone City but they end up growing feel for interest
I don't get it we haven't gotten a comic-accurate portrayal of Barry Allen yet. I would like to introduce Barry first and then introduce Wally and have them both together.
I still think Wally West will be the main Flash of the DCU when we first see him. With Barry Allen missing.
I saw a post saying it was confirmed by Gunn that this was Wally west we saw in the vision
Apart from the flash there's no sign of aquaman
The infinite Black Lion video glitch is FIIIRREEEE
Now only if they could give Kyle and maybe the old Young Justice something to do it would be awesome.
I am mostly Barry's fan but after recently watching JL/JLU cartoons I am getting the Wally West hype.
I disagree that all it takes is like 20 characters to make a complete DC Universe. The universe of the comics is VAST. It’s great that Gunn and company are diving head first into the canon and providing a fuller universe, but we still have a ways to go before calling anything complete.
The "Ezra Miller of it all" line killed me for no reason
Flash fans really need a win :'3
Yall looking too much into one scene😭
Theres no way Barry Allen is coming back, way too soon. I think we'll see Wally go from Kid Flash to the Flash proper. Good way to reintroduce the character and to have some continuity flowing through the DCU
4:10 person don’t know the guy so I will give that, but as an actor miller was a really great actor in the flash movie giving the right amount of emotion and energy to his scenes just see the finally to the flash with his mother and your eyes will tear up
I don’t want Barry dead in this universe. What I would do is make Barry an older flash like hal Jordan is to John Stewart in this universe. Basically I would make a flash movie that tells the origin of how wally becomes the flash. The movie would have Barry as the flash while wally is an adult who’s growing out of the mantle of kid flash. end of the movie Barry has kids with iris and lost his powers and wally becomes the main flash.
I will say, I would be okay with this I just still want the Dick Grayson friendship
I beed barry to be done right on sceen for once before we get wally
If wally is indeed the main DCU flash, i hope he has a new 52 inspired suit
No...Speed Metal Blue & Exposed hair!
Boy all you had to say it's Wally West, and I'm ON IT
Aftrr the Supergirl movie of James Gunn, I want him to jump to a futuristic DC film in the year 3100 AD entitled LEGION OF SUPERHEROES where Supergirl is one of its heads since Supergirl can live immortal like Wonder Woman. This means same actresses (Milly Alcock) will play Supergirl and Wonder Woman respectively.
Nah, Barry has a way better backstory and character development then Wally and struggles more and is a better character
Feels so weird to be early
I really hope if they do animated it’s not like the terrible animation in the spider verse movies I really don’t like that style I can’t ever tell what’s going on
I think Barry will be older like Hal (maybe slightly younger) and Wally will be in his mid 20s or something as he takes the mantel
Har me out: Milo Manheim as Wally West/The Flash. He's only 23 so he would definitely be young enough to be Wally West whether it's Kid-Flash or Flash and his character in Netflix's School Spirits reminds me so much of Wally. He would just have to be ginger lol
You say they step away from Barry Allen, they've barely touched on Barry's character or even given him an animations that's just Barry no other justice leaguer
I don’t care which one it is as long as grant gustin is the actor. I know it’s up in the air but he deserves it
i believe barry would be in his 30s and wally will be in his late teens still a member of titans end of first saga, if you will, sees the end of grant gustin i mean barry allen’s flash and wally takes over as the flash
Wally should be the new Flash, I agree. Also, where is Chapter 2 of the DCU?
Honestly i want both Barry and Wally I think Barry needs another shot cuz Season 9 was not that bad but bad non the less and the movie was absolutely atrocious so i think Barry needs another shot at the DCU.
I hope we get to see constantine in the dcu soon
Well I'm glad your not in charge