THE WORST 5 TRACTORS YOU CAN BUY! 😡🤧👨🌾🚜👩🌾
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- I make this video with trepidation. What I put out there is hard to take back. However, I believe there has to be a best and a worst and most of it all falls somewhere in the middle. I will preface by stating that a couple of the tractor models on the "Worst Buy" list are there for just cause regardless of who you are while others on this list are purely my opinion and I provide the justification.
I didn't have to publish this video, but I did so because I enjoy providing honest communication and I'm also asked questions along these lines on a regular basis. So, figured I'd have at it and let the cards fall where they may. Some tractors are just duds, some are overrated, some might even be miscategorized. I think we have a little bit of everything in this list.
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I hope to be hearing from you, about the John Deere 3025 you have in stock.
2 points. 1 at least make sure you video can be heated. To your not that pretty get to the fucking point.
@@jwoldner3926 WTH, YOUR COMMENT DON'T MAKE FUCH MUCKING SENSE
.....the worst tractor you can buy is one that doesn't have local support.
that's Kubota. Terrible resources and support with insane consumables and parts pricing. Garbage
Having a visual image of the models & issues inserted into the video would help tremendously.
Agreed 👍.
Thanks for your videos, really good information all around. Been around tractors all my life but haven’t really dealt with any of the “compact” size at all. Borrowed a neighbors for a quick job around my orchard and it opened my eyes what many other jobs I can do with it compared to my full size tractors. Now I’m trying to convince my boss to get one lol
People need videos like this to make an informed purchase. Tractors are to expensive to “hope” you bought a dependable one. Thank you for a fair unbiased video.
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Nice job! Appreciate the honesty and your learned opinions. Delivered in the proper way too. You’ll save a few folks from some aggravation.👍
Thank you John!
Thank you for this list. It sure helps a person looking for a good used tractor to be able to know which tractors to avoid or be aware of.
Have you done a video on the 5 best? Love to see that. Thanks.
Just bought my first compact tractor. It is a 2305 john deere. After watching your video I tried to grease my u joints. Can't get at them. I took it all apart and replaced them with napa j 410 u joints. I can now grease them. They have the fittings in the end of the cap.not in the center. Just a tip if you have one of these. Good video.
I have a 2305 JD also, found the ujoints when I destroyed the hydro cooling fan, did grease the ujoints when I found them, did have to remove the drive shaft which was not hard, took about 30 min. Guess I was lucky to have demolished the fan.
For those with regen issues with the B3350. It is a mechanical Deisel. The sensors determine the need for regen purely by increased back pressure detected by the sensors. Simply take off your DPF filter canister, cut it in half, remove the filter media, have the canister welded back together and reinstall. No ECM flash need because as I said it has mechanical injectors. With no filter to clog the sensors will not detect back pressure and will not have the computer call a regen cycle. This mod alone is a game changer for a B3350.
Shouldn’t have to do that though. A manufacturer as large as Kubota should be helping those facing the issues. They can afford it. They made the problem... they should help with a resolution. They sold, and continued to sell, a defective product. Manufacturers need to be held accountable for pushing subpar products at premium prices and then being allowed to get away with it. It’s not just Kubota either. Many manufacturers have been using similar tactics. Take Ford for example. They pushed out the first gen 3.5 ecoboost platform and charged the new owners a premium for a flawed product. They tried to patch the issues but ultimately had to redesign the platform. Who paid for all that? The end users. Ford didn’t do much to help those they used as product testers. They made the end user fund their trials. The first gens are still desirable for being steel bodies... but people don’t want to buy that janky first gen ecoboost... so the resale values are basically nothing. Many shops don’t even want to work on ecoboost platforms and people are forced to go to the dealership. You can look at $10k plus for engine replacement. In a truck that MIGHT sell for $13k on a good day. 😂
@@TsunauticusIV end user pays for everything thats to be expected but what isnt to be expected is wasting your time. They need to test it better before selling it.
@@TsunauticusIV Another thing with the eco crap is it really annoys me how it gets pushed down on the working class. You ever see Amazon's fleet of tractor trailers? Make those electric. Make the freighters hauling goods from China electric. Swap out the coal plants. After that THEN bust my chops about my consumer vehicle that runs a couple hours a week.
@@dcgregorya5434 the electric motors would need to be produced with green energy to truly reduce carbon output
@@snowjammma Yeah, starting with the processes around extraction and refinement of raw materials isn't a bad start. But tbh I think if we wanna get anywhere we will need abundant nuclear energy plus mechanical or biological sequestration of carbon. Still, this isn't a problem for some random blue collar worker, this has to be solved upstream.
As a owner in past of JD1025, BX2680, and currently B2601 I will agree with some. 1025 is bigger tractor. Feels like B2601 on undersized wheels. Both oficially fits into sub-compact, but thats all. This is similar like comparing F150 vs F250 (both full size pick ups), but what a difference. . There is difference in lifting capacity between JD1025 and BX, but isn`t as big as Tim showed in his video 1025 vs 2680. Weights on pallet for BX were placed further from pin, than for jd. I was able to lift around 600lbs excluding forks to about 1-2 feet above ground. To lift to height 2-3 feet above ground 400-450lbs. Jd1025 will lift probably 100, maybe 150lbs more. When I stepped from JD1025 to 2680 most annoying wasn`t lift capacity, but position valve control missing on 2680. Grading and all work on 3 point hitch was little more difficult. I was wondering between 2601 and JD2025. When I compared.... winner was orange. Much more efficient on fuel, plus 3 speed rear end. On the end JD completely lost telling me "Kubotas are made by illegal emigrants in Georgia". That was the only argument of sales person at Washington Tractor dealer. JD2032 or B2650 were slightly too big for my needs. I have considered New Holland and Massey Ferguson as well, but dealers were far.
I just got an L2501 & couldn’t be happier. It’s done everything I’ve needed so far like mowing pasture, box scraping my road and light loader jobs. I checked for used, but either there wasn’t any available or they cost almost as much as a new one. Some were going for only 5k less than new & were 10+ years old! 0% APR for 60 months was a big plus and there was several dealer incentives for equipment. AC cab would be nice, but I really didn’t want to pay for it. 😉
I’ve got the 2380 with the MMM, not drive over. I have no complaints thus far and have no issues with third party implements front or rear. I’ve had it for about 4 months now and around 100 hours. Loader stand does seem a bit pieced together but no complaints from this guy
Also very informative and great understanding of machines in general ! Very proud of this guy and my guess does tons of business and has great and happy customers no matter what they buy 😁
Very good information. I own a 2305 that I bought new in 2007 and fortunately I had joined a forum and was aware of the
hidden grease zerks. What I did on mine was have a hydraulic company drill a hole on the end cap of the u joint and had it
tapped to the correct thread for the grease zerk fitting. Now I grease away with no worries. Now the fan is another story.
I attached an after market fan guard because you have to take the tractor apart just to install that plastic fan. I have heard
that some owners just cut and reglue the fan. So far no issues.
I once cracked the PTO clutch on my 2011 JD 2520. Not sure why, but I blame hitting a root with the post hole digger and the shear pin jamming. Didn't realize I had done it until the snow blower wouldn't turn off in the winter. Over $6000 to repair at the JD dealer. The repair was 100 pages of manual for the disassembly. So talked to the regional JD rep and they covered half the cost even though I was out of warranty.
I’m just enjoying the background..it’s beautiful.
I mean, great tractor, but as he is talking about other tractors, can we see pics of them?
Hey, good review of some problem models, Etc,
Could you tell me how a JD 1025R would doo on steep banks for brush cutting as well as mowing?
Are you familiar with the Ventrac / Steiner type compact tractors? How can the little JD hold up to them on steep slopes?
Thanks, Courtney! In your position, I think your opinion is well worth listening to.
I would put the JD 1025R at the top of this list. In 2015 I traded a Kubota BX for a new 1025R and I’ve never regretted anything more. My tractor has been back to the dealer 15 times, sometimes for 30+ days at a time for mower deck issues. I had to fight tooth and nail for ANY help from the dealer. It was like pulling teeth, and when it came down to it Deere didn’t honor my warranty. I’ve never owned a worse product or had a worse customer service experience. I will never buy green again. Go with Kubota.
My brother had a 1025. Deck brackets kept breaking. They’re made out of pop metal. Got rid of it. Junk.
Seems like a Lemmon and bad dealer. Not necessarily a bad tractor. Mines been rock solid and I work it hard.
You had an exception, the 1025R is the best sub compact tractor out there right now, not even close. Dealer sounds awful too.
I agree. I have a BX2660 and it's been flawless. I test drove the 1025 and the 2660. The deck on the BX was much better and the belt was twice as big. I also did not want another tractor with the plastic hood. They always get brittle and crack with the ones I've owned. You never see a John deer in landscaping around here. They are always Kubota BX tractors. I do like the double pedal on the John deer instead of heal/toe but you get used to what you drive.
I don't buy your opinion on the kubota bx series of tractors. There are so many.brands out there from rural king to Mahindra bobcat to God knows what. I am 64 and the mower deck is easy to remove and pull out. Same with reinstalling it. I hear drive overs may be more difficult to attach and detach. Kubota tractors are dependable. I seem to hear John deer and kunota are tge best. You forgot about new Holland tractors. All of those are better than the kabota bx series really? Most of the others have yanmar engines including John deer. Kubota makes their own. Something is not right with what you are saying.
Im going to post some positivity about my '16 3350. I bought it nearly two years ago with 500 hrs on it. The seller was told the dealer went thru and repaired the regen system and it has worked perfect since I have owned it. I have had four regen cycles on it that went flawless...plus I never idle the engine for longer than 20 seconds.I am happy with my B3350 ( upgrade from BX2660 ) Im in central IL so we have our share of extreme weather at times.
same with mine, 650 hrs, shut down once this summer 90 deg, high humidity, ac blowing and 4 hours of mowing grass at full throttle, 30 min kool down, good to go, love the tractor, perfect size for me. ill delete if that time comes
Absolutely correct about the dealerships, that's the biggest reason I absolutely hate GM products. Had a local dealership that gave me the run around, service sucked, the dealership sucked. Took my business elsewhere. It's the same with "ag dealerships". If their service isn't up to par, leave them, go somewhere else. Great video, cheers :)
I agree with you. I bought my last GM car in 1978, Buick Electra 225 Limited. Had two pieces of plastic facia on driver door crack at 76 miles, at 14,000+ had rear engine seal caused leaks they fixed after warranty(thanx),after that had sticking valve lifters until exwife traded it for a VW Golf. Buick model engine, UCK!!!!! I bought Fords and MOPARs until now, never been happier!
Well Ford and Dodge better have good dealership service if you're going to be working on it that much :P
I was so excited to get my JD 1023 until I had it - constantly overheats. Update. Had called my local dealer who honored the warranty and has now been a month.. no more issue. Has not overheated once since the JD certified tech came out and fixed it at no cost to me.
Good video! I agree with your comments on the tractors. FYI- I had a 2320- it ran great but I didn't like how the mower attached with that drive shaft. The drive shaft placed you on the ground and under the tractor. I'm VERY happy with my 2038R. Again, I think your comments are spot on.
Thank you x ray! Those 2038r are really nice machines!
Request- I love how nice your used tractors look. Would you consider doing a video showing a complete detail job from start to Finnish???!!!!
the kubota MX are replaced the Bseries and L series is replaced with MXseries
I have a 2011 New Holland Boomer 35, 4x4, HST, (don't judge me..... lollll ;-) ) bought it used from a neighbour in 2013, with 95hrs now with over 1,600hrs without any problems except usual maintenance (I do it by myself) and wear and tear. I use it for partly logging my 800 + acres, lanscaping around including snowblowing my 900' driveway. I do make it to work sometimes but always in respect of his capacity, as well as my Takeuchi TB-235 excavator.
Went from a deer 2018 5055e cab/loader to a new holland work master 75 cab/loader .
Pros on the Deere hydraulics and reliability blow the new holland away . Cons is the tractor got crap fuel mileage and no power .
New holland the tractor has a ton more power and fuel mileage over the Deere main reason no dpf . Cons is this is my second tractor from New holland first one couldn’t solve the ecm issue tractor wouldn’t run right . After a month they have me a new one . First issue pto cable breaks down a week. Get it back ac compressor blows up stays in shop for 3 weeks . Third time around the idler pulley bolt snaps off in block down a week. I’m done with new holland going to get a Massey Ferguson 4707 tomorrow.
Great video. I bought my Kubota in 2000. I had my mind set on a BX series from Parkers in Shelby NC. Much better price than all other in area (100 mile). Thankfully the salesman Roy Parker convinced me to buy the L3130 GST. A lot more tractor for a little more money. Never had any trouble in all these years and love the tractor. TFS
My dad bought an L3013 back in 2000. I inherited it, it’s still just as perfect as it was then. LA482 loader. Works great.
Bought my L3710 from Parker and never had one trouble with it. Bought a small compact Deere in 2000 and had all types of trouble with it. I'll stay with Kubota.
You did a good job putting this together. I completely agree on the 3 series. I was shopping a few months ago and comparing to the Kubota. I thought I really wanted a JD. For anyone who sits on them and puts these machines side by side there its just no comparison. I know even both manufacturers compare these two tractors against each other, but in my opinion they aren't in the same class. When I asked the JD salesman why would JD would want to make their rear ends out of aluminum , he said to keep the hydro fluid cool. Lol. Im sure the JD is realiable and may be the right tractor for some people, but not for me. I could have been just as easily buying Green but the 3R wad out of my price range. So My Kubota L2501 was priced below the JD3025. I don't know could be a dealer giving me a better deal or regional pricing thing? Don't know.
Anyway good video, always learn and enjoy. Keep them coming
Thank you sir!
Guess you didnt know that the 3 series engines are Bigger in displacement and TORQUE than the 2 or 1 series. More ground clearance, better turning radius. The E series is NOT for lawn maint. though.. They are best compared to a Ford 9N which served for half a century as a reliable utility tractor. The aluminum rear DOES in fact help with heat. The 3D has cast iron and is a gear tractor and is Cheaper to buy. The aluminum was NOT a cheap way out, cast iron would have been.
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I had the exact same buying experience. Looked at the 3E vs the L2501 and went for the 2501. Seamed like a bigger heavier tractor for the money and I also ended up paying less than the deere (both new). I grew up with both so was pretty impartial to either brand
@@Formulabruce yes I knew those minor differences too. I also saw the same John Deere promotional video your quoting from.
I have 500 hrs on a BX2680 with driver over deck. I have taken the deck and FEL of many times and have not had any issues and everything is till working as good as he I got it! My biggest reason for not getting a JD was the amount of plastic on it , I like being able to take a hammer to dents :)
I bought a bx23 in 2006. I now have 1,450hrs on it and I'll keep it till it needs buried. It compliments my jobsites alongside a kx71.
I have had to weld the backhoe main boom but that is from seriously overdoing it over and over. Replaced the driveshaft but that was due to motor mounts that needed replaced to. Front loader pins are worn to junk so a rework is coming... They were greased but lots of silty mud work is like sandpaper.
I have looked at details on the 23s... Love the easier access to hydraulic oil check/fill, hate the pedal change, neato bucket changes but just hard to pull the trigger on price when my old one is still jamming away.
Back when I bought, I built a database and was comparing the similar JD model and also a MF2310. JDs price was up and they didn't make a OEM backhoe for it then, the MF was so close but the frame and some connections just didn't appear as beefy and weighed more (I had a ceiling for towing at the time). An important part was parts availability... Kubota won that out with two dealerships in the area.
Always nice to hear opinions but based on some experience.. some good info.. thanks!
Tier 4i and Tier 4 final all have their issues. In the south we see a lot of failures due to heat. It’s the newest technology to hit the market and manufacturers are working out the bugs but it really stinks when the customer bears the burden of down equipment, litigating warranty claims and paying exceptionally high repair cost.
Farmers should be allowed to bill the EPA for their problems.
Maybe they would think twice next time before expanding regulations.
agreed, heat and operator error, putting around they dont like, and will regen often, i have 650 hrs on my 3350, and id buy it again knowing what i know now, its a great tractor that can be finiky , if the owner dosent operate it properly.
I've watched several of your videos and visited your site while looking for a tractor. This video was enough to convince me to subscribe. Great job!
Branson 4520c Hasn't let me down yet and you don't even need counterweight to use the front end loader and as far as the backhoe attachment the one I picked up is a 8ft reach 16inch wide bucket mounts up as a full frame unit to reduce stress on the tractor by spreading the weight well picking up stuff. The horse power on my unit is 48 the next size up has the turbo if I can remember correctly it made 55hp same body size as mine though. Before you buy any tractor always go test drive them first.Branson really had me surprised over the rest of the market for a small compact tractor!
I have 1100 hours on my 4520r and it is great.
As you know or will soon realize, our Branson tractors far exceed these other brands in lift capacity of both the loader and the 3 point hitch. Also tighter turning radius, heavier weight, our backhoes are designed simpler, list goes on.
Working on a 1000 hour review video. Couple small issues but nothing unexpected, I definitely work mine a little than most but its like the tractor just begs for more!
On the JD 2320 Drive shaft JD doesn't sell just the U-Joints. But if you go to NAPA auto parts you can get replacement joints that have End Cap grease fittings. So that you don't have to spend lots more on the shaft removal if you take two Industrial C-Clamps on the motor mounts you can get the shaft off. I also cut a square out of the right side and put a hole in the plate across from U-Joints to be able to grease them
I have an LS 4155C with a backhoe. it's been amazing and has made me some money on the side. All I've had was a hydraulic hose bust at about 200 hrs. It took me about 8 hrs to replace it because I'm not really a mechanic and one end connected back in the firewall. Very hard to get to.
I understand about resale but there is also something else. Purchase price. Kubota wanted 63k for a comparable model. Deere wanted 68k and less warrantee. I paid 38k out the door . It may not have the resale value but at that price, who cares. I could never afford a tractor in the 60k range. Everyone that sees my tractor loves it. It's absolutely a fine looking machine. Most think its a New Holland. Funny because it actually is a New Holland boomer. In fact, if you look at the LS logo, it says "LS New Holland".
LS makes the tractors for new holland, new holland only makes their own loaders. I have a couple LS tractors and they are great! My XJ2025H blew a backhoe regulator at 240 hard use hours, my dealer picked it up and installed a remote hydraulic system and had it back in 2 days, all covered under warranty. The only other issue I've had is the muffler busting the welds but that was a 20 minute fix. I use my tractors commercially and they've held up to a lot of abuse
Wonder if I could do this with my Kiote CK4010
I have an LS MT125 and it’s been great to me. I have one neighbor with a JD1023 and another neighbor with a JD1025R and my LS was thousands cheaper than there JD’s and the LS is hands down a better tractor in my opinion, and my neighbors also.
Thanks for the review - Live on 5 acres I've put 200hrs on my BX23s and absolutely love that thing. Did a lot of research beforehand and bought on merit, not colour - Spends most of its life digging out huge stumps out in pretty hard clay.
Admittedly i do push it to its limits but I will say the lift capacity of the FEL is quite limited due to the 4 in 1 bucket which apparently is quite a bit heavier than a standard bucket. If I did it again I would opt for the standard bucket and Grapple attachment. I live in Australia and the skid steer attach system is not standard here.
Dunno why a quick attach to a front end loader is such a foreign concept tractor salespeople in Australia. It’s like they do not think anyone would ever want anything but a bucket on the loader.
I have a 2013 Mahindra 3616 4wd HST. Love it. It has just under 1000hrs and not one problem. Still have the original battery in it.
I agree. I have a B2650 I bought new in 2017. Has @ 600 hours as of now. Other then regular maintenance and 1 flat on a front tire, no other repairs. Love it.
Kuboya just discontinued the 3350 and 2650 replacing it with LX series and the tractor that took place of the 3350 has common rail like a l3301 or l3901 so the problems should be gone as the L series common rail DPF worked pretty good
Bought a 2012 Kubota b3000 cab/loader model with heat and AC, the 4 cylinder emission's free engine is hard to beat in a compact tractor model!
IMHO, first time tractor SCUT/CUT buyers are mostly influenced by the price "sticker shock". They inevitably opt for a lower price without considering, or really understanding, the long term ramifications of limited capacities or functionalities of some tractors. If purchased properly, and carefully considering physical size, HP, capacities, attachments, hydraulics, cab vs ROPS, long term service and support, etc., a CUT tractor will easily last for many decades when put to use by a typical home/land owner. Conversely, you cannot really expect a large frame CUT, even with a MMM, to also be a "delicate lawn mower". This is when it is probably wise to purchase a dedicated "lawn mower" for that task and let your much larger tractor do the things it can do much better. All that said, if a 1025R with a MMM and its FEL and various appropriately sized 3PH attachments can really do it all for you and your needs, go for it.
Great info and thank you for taking the time to share Brad!
@@ttss5726 SCUT/CUT = (Sub) compact utility tractor, ROPS= Rolling over protection system, MMM = mid mount mower, FEL = Front end loader....and no I don't own a tractor, I just watch too many vids of GWT channel (Good Work Tractors) lol
The truth is sometimes hard to stomach. My 3 YRO Kubota BX series has been a no regrets purchase so far. I pushed it past it’s limits more than I care to admit and it has held up. I should have bought a bigger tractor to start with but your absolutely correct about resale. People are lined up to buy it when I decide to upgrade to the B series
Love your video. I'm thinking about buying the Kubota L5460 but after watching your video I'm not sure which one is a good fit for what I'm using it for. I use the pto with a rotor tiller alot so what's your opinion on that? Thank you
I own 3 kubota tractors. A 23, a 34 and a 75 horsepower. 0 problems with any of them! My worst was an 85 HP New Holland! It took a technician to work on any aspect of that thing! Everything on it was computer driven and you needed a degree in electronics to evaluate all of the faults that appeared daily on the dashboard! Many times you had to stop the engine and reset the computer (5 seconds)and try again! Kubotas are simple to run and (rarely) work on! Love my kubotas!
We have the b2920 and LOVE it. I've built roads on a hill with that thing that it should never have been able to do. It's all mechanical, parts are cheap and readily available. The best part is .75 GPH fuel consumption.
@Keith Chrysler Your kubota's must be older and don't have tier lV with dpf because everything over 25 hp today is computerized and require technician's to work on them.
My 1981 Kubota B7100DT with over 5000 hours, With Loader,Backhoe, McConnel Arm Mower, York Rake, Post Hole Digger.1 Clutch replaced 15 years ago.Nicknamed “Tanky” Great little machine! ☘️
Is this a 70hp? I'm looking fit reviews on a 55 or 60 hp and can't find anything. Was gonna get a 70hp kubota tomorrow but also thinking about 55hp mahindra. That's the options I have that are cabbed and on the lot here in vidalia
@@bryanbatton01 no, it’s a 16 Hp! Great little “ Micro Tractor” Sorry it took so long for me to reply!
@@josephherron744 no problem. I ended up going with a 70 hp Mahindra
I agree that John Deere dropped the ball on the 2320 with the driveshaft issue. I made access panels to be able to grease them on my Gen1 2025R, basically a 2320. What would be your overall opinion on the 2320 tractor if there was easily accessible drive shaft zerk fittings with instructions to grease the annually?
My parents have just about 3.75 acres, We used to take care of it with a Sears/Craftsman lawn and garden tractor until it broke down. Then we got a John Deere 265 in I think it was between 1994 to 1996. Then around 2014 The engine went on it. We could not afford to get it fixed or get a new engine for it. So now the tractor sits under a tarp in the back yard and the engine is in pieces in a couple boxes in the shed. WE never had any "Major" problems with the tractor until the engine went. Any time we had a minor problem dad would go to the dealer and get the parts he needed and fix it or have the dealer come pick up the tractor, fix it, and then return it.
I wish I had the money to get new tractor, then I would get a Sub compact tractor with: a bucket loader, 60" mid mount mowing deck, post hole digger, maybe a back hoe, maybe a snowblower, and maybe a snow/dirt blade. I was thinking of a Roto-tiller attachment to till garden. I like John Deere, but they are EXPENSIVE!!! I also like the Kubota's, but have heard Horror stories about customer service and getting parts from the Dealer, But they are also Expensive, but a little less so than JD depending on model and dealer.
When looking for a compact, I was getting ready to buy the JD. Until I dropped the number into google looking for known issues. Turns out the JD transaxle suffered pto failures too. Still nice I’m more interested in durability, I bought the BX.
I have a 82 long tractor 85 horsepower, have a few issues with the battery staying charging. It 2 wheel drive. I was looking into buying a new one but everyone I talked to said that they don't build tractors like they did back then. It does what I need it to do but would like to get one with a bucket.
I had a 1986 2wd, Long 260, W/27 hp. I got a wild hair and traded it in on a new Mahindra auto-drive 38hp, old blue [Long] had more pulling power than the new Mahindra! [This is just my opinion Mahindra sucks]
Good job 👍 I'm not even going to argue with you. thanks Larry
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Great job on your video.
Years ago, I was a tech at a high volume Kubota dealer. They were building quality pieces then, the BX1800 just came out and what a powerhouse they were. The L series and Grand L... so it's disappointing to learn how things are now. I sure wish I had bought an early BX!
I had an older kibota bx2200 and major issues with joystick leaking. Never got it right. Sold.it and got the plastic bx24 in 2007. Like it alot and still looks new. Normal issues due to hours and I hate the noise at idle. Sounds like it will fall apart and talking to other bx people, same deal
Well now you've put your foot in it you rabble rouser! :) All kidding aside, taking the high road is not always easy. Sometimes you need to let folks know there could be bad news from time to time. They may figure you've slighted them personally, but the reality is you've given them honest, experienced-based, knowledge that is intended to help them make their next choice for equipment an intelligent one. As always, I find your information to be both fair and honest. Good stuff! :)
What was for breakfast this morning? :)
@@GoodWorksTractors I had scrambled eggies with shredded cheese mixed in and a bit of sour cream . . . toast, coffee . . . a big boy breakfast . . . no cereal because I never got my spelling homework done...I HATE when she does that! :)
Buddy! You had me worried for a few minutes with the intro....i own a b2650 with cab....your right about the big brother thing..thats why I bought mine..if the border ever opens again maybe we can do some business!!! Very informative!!
Haha, love the B2650...and sure I'll like the LX2610 once I get my hands on one of them!
Great review and I trust your opinion on tractors and things.
Having no farm & tractor experience I retired and bought a 20 acre property in NW Arkansas. I was talked in to a John Deere 1025R and attachments in 2015. I have no real issues with it and it does almost everything I need from a tractor. Sometimes wish I had more power like trying to move large boulders and such. It's easy to operate and maintain. A few issues sort of suck though like positioning of the key and light switches. When turning around to hook up things my knees hit those items and turn on the lights or shut off and bend the key. Pretty minor complaints but something that could be better.
Attach a sheetmetal shield with screws to block your knees
I bought a 2003 Kubota B21 loader backhoe a few years ago. Hydraulic lines are the only repair. It’s well balanced with the backhoe on it. No emissions controls on it so it may be my last tractor. Hope I can get parts for it in the future.
"Why would you design a tractor that couldn't have a backhoe on it?" you say, well because a lot of folks have zero intention of paying close to $10K for a backhoe that they will never (or occasionally) need - makes no sense to spend that money for that attachment unless you have a business that needs it. Why spend the extra money on the 2R series when you don't need the drive over mower capability? If all ones needs/wants is a load and a PTO, then the 3E series make perfect sense. Heavier is not always better either when using a rotary cutter on pastures as it compacts the ground more, leading to more weeds and gets stuck easier in puggy ground. The 3E is cheaper by a lot, lifts a full 61" bucket filled with dirt w/o issue, can handle a 6ft rotary cutter or a 800lb tiller, etc. Again, if one doesn't need all the bells and whistles that an R-series provides, why pay up for it?
You're right. For the two-three DIY projects I have in mind requiring a backhoe, I'd rather rent a mini excavator for a day at a time, or hire out the machine work to a machine owner who wants side-gigs, depending which makes sense at the time. Barring an unforeseen great deal on a good used tractor that already includes one, either of those options is likely to be far cheaper in the end than buying a backhoe attachment that won't get used very often. Plus, any mini-excavator is a far superior tool for the job compared to anything you can add to a compact tractor. (That said, if I did happen to own a backhoe, I'm sure I'd find a few more uses for it.)
Well I have a John Deere 4310 and I never planned on having or needing a backhoe ether. But guess what things changed in life and I could really use one and I found a used one for $3500 model 47 with all the mounting brackets I just had to get the power beyond from JD. So my point is I didn't have to trade tractors to accomplish this.
If you look around you can get used attachments at really good prices just like tractors. And like he says all these do hold resale value. So depending on which you chose you can still recoup most of your investments ether way you go.
My kioti 2410 has steel stress everywhere. They are under structurally engineered and when parts break getting a dealer to help is underwhelming.
Thanks sir.
Semper fi
I have a 2001 B2410 4WD HST. It has less than 500 hours on it, but use it for all kinds of jobs from rough cutting, finish mowing, to back hoe work and never let me down. Only complaint is the placement of the brake pedals makes them useless when trying to brake steer. It has a woods backhoe on it, with PTO pump so the tractor hydraulics aren't used for it. Back then the Kubota was less expensive than the similar JD, but having had the Kubota now for 19 years, the JD might have been a better tractor due to the loader being easy on/off and brake pedal on the left where it can be easily used. Back then, I didn't know jack about tractors, just moved to a 5 acre farm for horses, but now I know what to look for in a tractor.
Great video. Is there a possibilty of a video coming out that compares m series tractors and the comparable john deere machines? Specifically those in the 80 to 100hp range for orchard use?
I own a Deutz 68hp 60's model with over 6000 hours and it still runs extremely well. Very well built tractor.
I love those old air cooled Deutz tractors! Grew up with having them on our farm!
We ha one with 14756hour
I've had 2 new compact tractors in the last 20 years...a yanmar cub and mahindra 1526... Never had any issues with either that wasn't something silly, like blowing hoses, clogged fuel filters ect... All compact tractors are very similar regardless of brand... They are very well built machines overall.. in most cases where a machine won't start or starts and dies it's usually related to the fuel system or something that has rattled loose from all of the vibration... I would try to get the largest frame size you can , and then save money on buying the versiom with the least horse power....in most cases the same hydraulic system is used on all HP versions of said model, therefore you'll get the same lift capacites and ect. Unless your are brush hogging 15+ acres of very tough grass or other PTO heavy takes for long periods of time your better off putting money towards higher lifter capacities/larger tractor than higher horse power engine options.
Thanks 4 UR thoughts. My 3940 Kubota has been working great
Excellent channel, always so very informative thanks!
Thank you!
Good video. Very respectful to inferior models.
Very 👍
I really enjoy your no nonsense direct approach. You don't equivocate much and you have the right value approach. The brand loyalists tend to overlook compromises, I don't think you do.
Having said that, I spend most of my time between a John Deere 310 SE, a Cat 304C CR mini ex and a Takeuchi TL 140. I work installing and performing maintenance on Municipal water lines. Several years ago I had the chance to run a John Deere 110 for a week on some property we had in West Virginia. I really was impressed with that machine and am considering one for a personal TLB for side jobs. I know it's out of production so I'm also looking at the Kubota TLB's, the L47 and I believe the L63? Do you have any experience with any of these and if so, what are your thoughts? Would love a dedicated video on these more robust commercial tractors.
Thanks in advance.
James
Your videos are awesome... I finally picked myself up a 3036e... Planning on mulching up my gorse over here in New Zealand... Sadly we seem to have way less of a range over here :(
On the JD 2305 they claim the problem is the u joint going dry rusting and breaking. I can get to the u joint from underneath but it that small you can't get the head of a grease gun on fitting while straight it has to be removed to grease good.
I would hunt hard for a low hour,clean used tractor long before I would buy any new machine with regent.Just my opinion,you'll never sell me on new diesel technology,its not dependable and will cost you money somewhere.I bought a new 2015 L 2501,just because of the horsepower threshold of DPF,and used ones were too close to new price,so I bought new.Excellent,simple,straight forward tractor,no bells and whistles,NO ISSUES.
Kioti is a really great tractor. Kioti built most of the Kubota tractor parts. Ck2610 will smoke any green or orange tractor on lift and weight spec's, hydro pump is 13 gmp way faster for backhoe use. I've owned many tractors my pick in the end is Kioti. Keep in mind that not one compact tractor is made in the USA. Stick with South Korean or Japan except LS AKA the newer New Holland. Also if all you need is a tractor for alittle work the Chinese, Ag king, foton, jinma are pretty darn good, but a raybestos clutch upgrade is needed. Plus the rubber parts are well, Chinese. Stay away from 2 and 4 bangers stick with the 3 cyl. Anyway if you can come across any Yan Mar grey market tractors they are super.
Simple and easy
I have an RK55 hst 4x4 with cab and loader. Made by TYM in South Korea. It has a Yanmar engine. I love it and recommend people give them or LS or Kioti a look before you buy anything. I compared John Deere and Kubota but neither had anything close to what my tractor is for the price.
I've also spent many years working with tractors and heavy equipment and there's no question the TYM is built heavy duty.
For those that care about such things it also comes with an 8-year unlimited warranty.
Just picked up my first ever tractor. Kioti 4010SE HST. I did lots and lots of research. Solid tractor for the best price around.
Kubota L2501 with a plastic canopy, filled tires, loader and box blade was going to cost me 25k after tax. I got the Kioti 4010SE HST for 31k with all of the SE upgrades (tilt steering, cruise control, mirrors, dual rear hydraulics, link pedal, floor mats, etc), steel canopy, box blade, forks and an 18ft pipe top trailer. (The trailer costs $5,300 from Big Tex)
23.9 HP Kubota vs a 39.6 HP Kioti.
Do your research and check out Kioti.
Great info! Thanks for sharing
I do agree with you they do have issues. Lots of emissions issues. But kubota has lifetime warranty on the emissions now. The dealer has to do a specific list and make sure it has certain codes but we have fixed quite a few tractors and put update kits on them so they are trying.
I purchased a brand new Kioti NX4510 about 4 years ago and had very little issues with it. I would highly recommend a Kioti tractor.
I bought a 2019 CK3510 and it's way better then any other Kubota I've run before, I absolutely love it. There were alot of little things that made me consider a Kioti over a Kubota and the little things matter to me.
I have the Kioti DX 40 and was farm raised with tractors, no question it's a fantastic tractor and built very strong. As good or better than Deere and Kubota and thousands less!
100% , kiotis are better tractors than kubota and most modern jd's , I like kubota but they can't compete with kioti , branson or tym in the weight , hydraulic capacity , price and in some cases warranty categories, these new to US brands that have been around for a long time elsewhere are reliable and in my opinion more of a working man's machine , and even the base models are normally set up as at least a mid teir kubota or jd but at way less$ , at that point if you have a good reliable dealer close enough , to me it seems odd to choose some fad brands like kubota when there are other's like kioti and tym that are doing great and are generally better in most ways .
When you started out I was laughing just thinking to myself....... WOW there are going to be a bunch of feathers getting ruffled................ Largely because no one especially in these current times likes anyone else's opinion. Totally agree with everything you said and yes my 3032E made your list LOL but everything has a purpose. The 3032E is a gap filler for me and I didn't get a 3038E because 2K for 6 HP??? yeah not needed so didn't spend it. (Might have been a HP video you made that helped with that.) If it was my only tractor then yes "R" series without blinking, but it is for light work and that's what it does. If I know I need a bigger machine then I just go get that one first way easier and do the mop up with the "E'". But I found this to be positive and informational and I will "not" be placing your photo on a dart board for being honest. Have a better day!
Good stuff Gregory. Thanks for sharing!
Interesting to see the BX on your list. When I rented one to put in a driveway, I found it very capable, but did notice that the bucket was overloaded with gravel and would droop as I was moving material around. Interestingly I think my 70's 7100 that I ended up purchasing might have a better loader capacity even with only 16hp.
The hydrostatic with the loader and backhoe really made the BX super capable for digging out stumps and loader work.
Love your knowledge and honesty!
For me the 1023e is perfect. I cut grass, push snow and haul fire wood with the loader. Small tasks on a small property. Saves my back. 💪😉🐷
My 2005 BX2330 is a beast and just keeps on keeping on even with the beatings I give it! Best tractor I’ve ever owned
Glad to hear it!
I have a 2008 model New Holland TC31DA and I love it. I bought it a few years ago with 300 hours on it, I will be doing its 500 hour service on it this weekend and it has been trouble free since I bought it. The only down side I have found to it is that the closest New Holland dealer to my house is about 5 hours away.
I love my B2601. Its a work horse. I got it over the smaller BX series with backhoe. I gave up the backhoe and got a tiller, box scrape, scrap and post hole digger.
Thanks for watching David!
Great video, you kinda read my mind here. I feel the bx seems anemic to the 1025r. If I wanted a tractor that size, the 1025r would win hands down, it's a legend. Plus I feel those small tractors just don't have much room for adjustment. And dare I say, lil small to put a loader on, it seems they're very unstable since they're light to begin with. You really won me over with the 3025e and family, as that WAS the tractor I thought I wanted, until the comparison to the L2501 was really not much of a comparison. I stress it's in that "family" size tractor. Plus the dealer relationship was key. Luv my 2501.
Been fixing them for 50 years and know which ones are a pain to own. Top of my list is Yanmar although they have improved some. Painting them green helped but still a headache. I would never own one. Anything I call government tractors that need to regenerate def run from, especially the early ones.
I love my bx2350. Got an 8' blade, 60" brush hog, 48" tiller, and made a weight box for her narrow butt so I can lift more with the bucket. I will agree the statement about them not being to robust. A shear off a lot of little pins and such.
My uncle has a b3030 and I love it it handles any category 1 3 point tool we can find, although it doesn’t have a skid steer quick attach
I got a 98 b21 Kubota a real tank love it will never sell
I'm with you about kubota and that "from the seat" detach system they got for the loader. Way too many moving parts, fully exposed to something or other snagging on them and breaking something.
I have a B2650 and love it, have had zero issues with it and it has 1,000 hours on it, we did think there was something wrong with the rear PTO but it turned out to be nothing. We are ready to get a new tractor so I have been looking at the new LX2610 with a loader and mid PTO, that way we can have our belly mower put on it and our bucket.
What are your thoughts on the Kubota standard L01 series? Currently looking now and this will be my first tractor purchase.
Great Video. I agree with you to a point. Kubota and John Deere do hold their Value better. I ended up with a kioti. The John Deere was my first choice went to 2 dealers in my area both did not seem interested in selling me a tractor. Kubota dealer was the same. The kioti dealer he was on his game. We got a good price. They have good warranty. So far parts and service have been great. I have been on the selling side as well so I understand programs how that all works. I think there are alot of good subcompacts on the market as well as John Deere and Kubota. I paid 4000 less for my kioti over deere. So that makes up some of the resale. Besides I think those who work hard for the sale deserve my business.
My opinion is Kioti has really been on their game. Their quality has been getting better with time and it seems that Kubota has been cheapening up their quality lately. I'm not saying that Kioti is better than kubota but they are a serious contender.
@@ifyoutip I agree. We have had out Kioti for 9 months now. We had one issue with glow plugs dealer picked it up at their cost fixed problem under warranty plus did first service(50hr) That little tractor impresses me daily what its capable of.
Another great video! And you're a bowhunter too from what I could see in front of the Kubota ;-)
Appreciate the opinions - New to all this and researching so great info. Thx for the clarification on the Kubota L series vs. LX (which seemingly replaced the BX?). As far as I can tell, Kubota doesn't really have an equivalent to a 2038R. The L3901 has the HP but not the features (seems to be a good tractor?) and the L3560 is only available w/a cab & rated HP/PTO HP is still not as high as a 2038R - I'm looking for that 30 HP PTO. As great a tractor as a 2038R seems to be, it seems like Kubota has a serious hole in their lineup. Hopefully they're remedying that as I'm leaning towards a 2038R although haven't ruled out a L3901.
Actually, the Kubota LX models replaced the B2650 and B3350 with the LX2610 and LX3310. If you watch this video from Messicks, the guy in the video explains the upgrades.
th-cam.com/video/Q9mR-VG5eFs/w-d-xo.html
Also, Kubota DOES offer L series tractors with and without a cab. The PTO will range from 28 - 53 hp depending on the model. Look under the Grand L series on their build page.
apps.kubotausa.com/configurator/BuildMyKubota.aspx?pgId=1&bmId=961&sId=125
@@stephengalante2979 I meant B50, not BX:). Thx.
What kind of bow do you shoot?
Great information... thx for sharing
We refused to sell b3350
The cold climates needed to put a price at card board in front of the radiator so they would build up enough heat. The new LX 3310 fixed the issues
Thanks for sharing.
I’ve got a B3350. I live in Tennessee and we’re basically always gone in the winter time. The tractor is great except for occasional overheating and automatic shutdown while doing a regen in extreme heat. When it shuts down it’s out of commission for a few hours until it cools down. Happens twice a year at most. When it does regen I’m careful to let it complete before shutting it down. Sometimes that means letting it stand at full throttle for 20 minutes. No problems the few times I’ve operated it in cold weather. Cold here is in the 20’s or 30’s. It’s three years old and has 400 hours. When the warranty is up I’ll look into having it deleted.
ive got a 2015 B3350 in northern mi, 650 hrs, this summer was the first time it got hot and shut down, 90 deg, high humidity, ac blowing, mowing grass, 30 min cool down good to go, i love the tractor, seems to be regenerateing more often lately, i keep rpms up, but not religiously when the task doesnt require it, ill look into deleting maybe this winter, its the perfect tractor for me, plenty of power for 33 hp
Dang, man! Have you cleaned the radiator and front screen? The cooling system on these engines is designed to handle crazy high heat disbursement.
John Higgs I’m pretty good about keeping it clean. I don’t think that’s it. Dealer acts like they’ve never heard of such problems. I think it only happened once this summer. It was probably 98F in direct afternoon sunlight and I could definitely feel the heat coming from the DPF. It’s not repeatable, so hard to show the dealer. I don’t like it, but not enough inconvenience to spend time trying to sort it out. Otherwise I’ve really enjoyed the machine. Wish I had the backhoe, but it looks pretty tough to put on and take off.
Hello Rudy,
I enjoyed your video of 5 tractors to stay away from. I have purchased my fair share of wrong tractors and have almost killed myself driving them.
Please help me with some suggestions. I have 28 acres on the side of a mountain in upper New York State and there is very little level ground (17% grade in spots). I have about a 1,500 feet of driveway composed of #2 and #3 stone overlayed with millings. I do a lot of fixing of that driveway, ditching, moving trees and occasionally trying to haul a 3,000 pound loaded trailer up the driveway.
I first purchased a John Deere (I think it was a 5540N at auction. I didn't know what I was buying, but it looked pretty with low hours and great price. I didn't know the N stood for Narrow. I found out that I could kill myself with it being so unstable on hillsides, so I got rid of that and made a few bucks. I then read that a Zetor was a real workhorse and a bargain for all the tractor power for the money. It is nice and wide, very stable, a powerhouse rated at 65 HP, but handles like it has 100 HP. Being that it is a manual shift (I believe 8 forward and 8 back). I have really almost killed myself on this one since it has brakes that totally suck. If I am pushing stone on my driveway and I stall out or need to back up on a steep slope, this tractor loves to roll. When I say roll I mean I almost have to stand on the brakes with all my might to get it shifted or started. I almost lost it trying to go up a hill with lumber on my 16' trailer. The tractor stalled and started picking up speed backwards. I went about 100' before stopping and was ready to try and jump off. Its a very reliable tractor and starts every time, but it is good only for level ground or semi level farming.
I think I need a used tractor with a bucket that can lift 2,000-2,500 pounds, Maybe from 30 to 50 HP?, Hydrostatic Transmission and possibly a cab with A/C and Heat. A backhoe would be a plus, but not if it would be difficult to change from a backhoe to a brush hog or other three point implement. I do like Kubota and John Deere, but I have looked at Kioti, Mahindra and a few others.
I do have a small excavator, but it would be nice to have a back hoe on the tractor if I should need it.
Please help me with your wisdom and OZ powers to steer me in the right direction. I know that you are a good distance from New York and it could be shipped from you., Please let me know your best recommendations and what I should look at paying. I do not use a tractor very much. I maybe use it 20-30 hours a year so paying a lot for something that sits for weeks or months at a time is not good for the budget. If you can, Please copy your suggestions to my Email since I may not always get to see them on this TH-cam .
Thank You, Richard
I own the 3038e, you could not of said it better. Way Too Light. When I bought it was affordable HP and a Turbo at 2200ft is a must. The original owner sold it at 88hrs after scaring himself silly using the loader without ballast. Without ballast I was able to lift the back wheels off the ground by jumping in the bucket, I only weigh 160lbs lol. I really do love the 3038e, but the love affair only started once I bought 220lbs of wheel weights just for mowing, and making a custom 100lb bumper brush guard for the front . The 3038e is probably the best mowing rig money can buy. If you want to lift anything with the loader get at least 700lbs on the three point hitch. In order to love the 3038e you must fully understand ballast, without ballast this tractor is a lemon.
Nice job. Seemed like a fair assessment based on exposure to different models over the years. Glad my Kubota B2601 wasn’t on the list.
Thank you John!
I bought a 2018 LS xr4140. I love it and haven't given me any trouble. The only thing I dont like is the regen. But I'm used to older tractors
I purchased a LS XR4145HC, has been flawless. Only does a regen every 50 hrs. Got mine with the largest backhoe LS offers, 3rd function with 4-in-1 bucket and grapple. I looked at the equivalent size cab Kubota with backhoe and adding 3rd function, it was priced at approx $21,500 more than my LS. Both new tractors from dealers 3 miles apart. Plus the Kubota backhoe is a pain to attach and detach compared to the LS, I can attach or detach the LS backhoe alone in 5 minutes or less (without tools).
Bought an LS4155C with the big 8ft backhoe as well back in 2016-2017. Around there. Flawless and amazing power. Only issue I had was a hydraulic hose blew at 200 hrs that connected to the firewall and I was using this thing moving in hundreds of yards of sand into a horse arena. A job for a commercial skid steer and not a farm tractor. It was a Pain to change because you didn't have room to work. I had to have my dad help guide a crows foot wrench into place. John Deere wanted 66k for the same set up with less lift capacity. Kubota wanted 63k for the same set up. I paid 38k. This is the second LS I've owned. These LS tractors are the same exact tractor as the New Holland Boomer series. In fact, look at the New Hollands and their brand name says "LS New Holland". Same exact tractor just a little lighter shade of blue and the hood is shaped a little different. Best kept secret among tractors.
Just to make sure I understand. I am a newby when it comes to tractors. I just bought 12 acres here near San Antonio, TX. I was looking at both the John Deere 3e (3025, 3032) and the Kubota L Series (L2501, l3301) . Are you saying I would be better off with the Kubota L Series over the john Deere 3e series?
I just bought a 1966 Massey Furguson 180 with Perkins diesel runs good.