Beyond the Notes: Bach's Prelude in C Minor will make you smile.

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  • Music goes directly to our hearts and souls. It connects on an emotional level, which is great. But why is that? In this series you and I are searching for some elements, details sometimes even, that can (a little bit) "explain" that connection.
    Here: Bach's Prelude in C Minor from his Well-Tempered Clavier book 1, BWV 847
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  • @carole3680
    @carole3680 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Over the centuries Bach continues to be unrivaled.

  • @matttondr9282
    @matttondr9282 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Bach certainly loved C minor (and E flat), this one and the duo from the second book are full of religious symbolism. For starters, C minor is a key with 3 flats, representing the holy trinity. Bach was a very religious man and did this sort of thing often. For example, his Mathew’s Passion starts in E minor (Erde) and the final chorus ends in C minor. So we start on Earth and finish in Heaven. I could go into much more detail but youtube comments are not the place. :)

    • @NM-ls3eg
      @NM-ls3eg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey, do you have more information/examples for the (religious) symbolism that can be researched?

    • @mikeruchispop6317
      @mikeruchispop6317 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@NM-ls3egWell I know that when Bach writes a long note on a motiv, It means something big and solemn, like god. Also, some motivs do have a cross like shape, like the one in the C sharp minor fugge: C sharp B sharp E D Sharp C sharp. Equilibrium.

  • @kurthartle5473
    @kurthartle5473 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Bach is, indeed, a soulful storyteller

  • @virginiaorganbuilder
    @virginiaorganbuilder ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I had to go immediately and play this again (piano, I'm afraid- I don't own a clavichord and I just started rebuilding my harpsichord), and it felt like an entirely new piece to me! After growing up with quite strict Bach interpretations being common (I'm 57), free, even Romantic interpretations like this make the music feel like it is finally able to escape; to escape the cold written notes and to come alive and communicate Bach's very deep emotions. Thank you for the inspiration!

    • @Suikevrije
      @Suikevrije ปีที่แล้ว

      its like bach was only a pattern. a tips but not a piece. (but its the only one from bach lol)

  • @stereodachs
    @stereodachs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love people who adore and talk about the phenomenal details of the greatest Musician of all times. So I love you too 🍒 👏🏼

  • @rogercarroll2551
    @rogercarroll2551 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An excellent analysis. This prelude is not "just a finger exercise": it is music !

  • @cactusowo1835
    @cactusowo1835 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's this feeling I have when sseeing someone so connected and so immersed with music, that gives me a lot of motivation

  • @DIYerGuy
    @DIYerGuy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a wonderful revelation you had for this piece. I have to go to the piano immediately ! Thank you !!!

  • @nigelburge3613
    @nigelburge3613 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you Wim.
    The final C maj is simply perfect.

  • @gngeannakakes
    @gngeannakakes ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I like your interpretation of this piece. The depth of JSB's music seems to require a lifetime of study and interpretation.

  • @joeldumont9528
    @joeldumont9528 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    La musique de Bach en particulier laisse une grande liberté dans l'interprétation possible. Cela stimule la créativité, incite à recréer l'oeuvre pour la personaliser. Les interprétations différentes sont autant de variations sans cesse nouvellement écrites. Et toutes sont légitimes. Les interprétations en dehors des sentiers battus, comme justement celle de ce prélude par Gould, sont des garantes de la vie toujours fluide dans la musique.

  • @Renshen1957
    @Renshen1957 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The Prelude dates from 1720, it’s the 15th work in Clavier-Buechlein for Wilhelm Friedemann Bach as the 2nd Praeludium in the early form. J N Forkel used in his edition published by Hoffmeister. Gerber’s copy ends with a mordant on the E natural in the last measure. Gerber studied with J S Bach in 1725. The Gerber manuscript also has the word Adagio in what has thought to be J S Bach’s handwriting in measure 25, three measures before the Presto, this indication is only found in Gerber’s manuscript, which along with JSB’s cousin Johann Walter and two other manuscripts contain the earliest version of WTC Pt 1.
    Future son in law J C Altnickol’s copy dates from the later years of J S Bach’s life and contains all the revisions not found in the earlier manuscripts, or of those the autograph which Bach altered.

  • @florianvanbondoc3539
    @florianvanbondoc3539 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Never realised what this prelude was hiding!
    Thanks so much!

  • @somehow3707
    @somehow3707 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My favourite Prelude and Fugue of the whole two books. Thank you, Wim. I had a bad day and your “review” (and playing) of this piece made me feel better. God bless you +

  • @carpenterhillstudios8327
    @carpenterhillstudios8327 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WIth Bach I've always sensed that there is more. And todaynyour explanation of that presto and the way you land on the e-natural made bachian sense, noit just a musical event. (The e-natiral really is final sunshine but it's still incomplete, requiring the echo of teh c. I love it.

  • @tomyoung5449
    @tomyoung5449 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My first hearing of this piece was on Walter (at that time, now Wendy) Carlos' Switched-On Bach, which was released in 1968. Ever since, that has been my interpretation -- on piano, which I played in C minor, F minor, and G minor (each has its own mood and feel). Hearing your analysis and interpretation today greatly broadened my narrow understanding. Many thanks.

  • @agucci
    @agucci ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love Bach's prelude! The prelude of the Law.

  • @basicsforbaroqueimprovisation
    @basicsforbaroqueimprovisation ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is wonderful Wim. Thank you for sharing your deep love of music and the fruits of all your in-depth studies. Anything which helps us get closer to the music of Johan Sebastian Bach is valuable and worthwhile. Wishing you the best - John

  • @Nonononono213
    @Nonononono213 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My teacher told me she never heard this prelude well played….your interpretation at the end is very interesting

  • @jean-yvesPrax
    @jean-yvesPrax ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Thank you, this deep analysis is very impressive, and once again demonstrates the genius of Bach. Regarding the last E natural, I like your interpretation : Bass C for Earth, higher C for Heaven, and finally E for Human, flat or natural according to his mood... but I would like to recall an other possible reason, very basic indeed : It was very usual, not to say mandatory, from Renaissance to Baroque, AND SPECIALLY FOR ORGANISTS (I.e. church music), when a piece of music was written in minor mode to end up with a final chord in major - listen to Bach, Buxtehude, MA Charpentier, H. Purcell and dozens of other : D minor pieces finish with a F#, G minor with a B natural.... One reason given is that, when you play and then mute the final chord , the sound goes in reverberation all around the church, or cathedral and goes distorted when the chord is in minor. Probably real reason was more mystical.

    • @sonomabob
      @sonomabob ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good observation! Makes sense to me that both interpretations are true. The world is made up octaves and their intervals. IMHO. Thanks.

  • @marcelobrunorodrigues7630
    @marcelobrunorodrigues7630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always learning. Nice video.

  • @williamchapman2607
    @williamchapman2607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I play this on a Yamaha P60 - I'll be playing now with all this mind. Thank you.

  • @ronaldho4218
    @ronaldho4218 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    you're an amazing musician with mind opening insights, thank you!

  • @Clavichordist
    @Clavichordist ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Wim,
    This is a really nice series which makes us think more about the music than just the notes. When I had lessons in my latter years, my teachers would spend a good part of my lessons doing this kind of analysis. Today, this has become second nature to me and makes learning and playing music even more enjoyable as I seek out this in the music.
    If you were to do another piece, I would like you to continue with Prelude and Fugue No. 3 in C#. There's a lot more to these two than meets the eye.

  • @silvaindupertuis
    @silvaindupertuis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very inspiring

  • @lisa3308
    @lisa3308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You!!! Love Bach forever!!! 👏👏👏🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶✨☀️✨☀️✨☀️🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🙏🙏🙏

  • @Dresdentrumpet
    @Dresdentrumpet ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice very nice, just goes to show the genius of Bach, writes a series of pieces to show off the merits of a new tuning system, and yet in a prelude you can extract a story. You are a consummate teacher!

  • @chryktus9040
    @chryktus9040 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely instrument.

  • @peymannoorbakhsh4749
    @peymannoorbakhsh4749 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm collecting different parts of Beethoven's music to introduce the value of classical music to some students. Now after watching your VDO I take a step back. I never saw emotional interpretation like this on Bach. Thank you

  • @bkmckenzie1
    @bkmckenzie1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was my first contest piece in the seventh grade in Wisconsin. We were rated, not against each other, but on a scale of one to five. The judge was apologetic while giving me a two for not having played it fast enough. (I played it considerably faster than this demonstration.) Today I would deem that rating appropriate, but not because of the tempo. I was merely playing the correct notes. I was not, however, telling a story. Fifty years later I am again playing c-minor, this time the double concerto in a small local concert not far from Eisenach. I hope we will tell an interesting musical story at an appropriate tempo and with the correct notes. Thank you for this reminder about what really matters in music.

    • @mikesmovingimages
      @mikesmovingimages ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now in my late 50s, an ardent amateur pianist, how often I wish that my childhood teachers, fine as they were and whom I loved, had imparted also that I was not just "playing the piano" but telling a story using the piano. Learning grammar is part of school, too. But even at the late teen and college level, the drive to the annual recitals was too often about getting notes under the fingers than what you are saying, like learning to recite a poem phonically. Most professionals play their instruments in settings where interpretation is less important or is given by another (conductor), producing a bias in music training.

  • @die_schlechtere_Milch
    @die_schlechtere_Milch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating!

  • @andreajoybelle
    @andreajoybelle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou Wim 🙏🎶

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Good video.

  • @robertoquijada6736
    @robertoquijada6736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fue Maravilloso. Magistral. La Composición
    Literaria Coyuntural y estructural.
    Hecho para la Humanidad x Familia BACH
    Cuando todo estaba en pañales
    Aun se puede percibir Sabiduría Universal
    Gracias.
    Roberto Quijada Gopal

  • @SiteReader
    @SiteReader ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I so enjoyed that! And yes, now I am smiling!

  • @davidsummerville351
    @davidsummerville351 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This post just came up on my feed. Cool stuff. Just subscribed. Thanks

  • @DMSBrian24
    @DMSBrian24 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When I played this piece at school, I imagined a mysterious figure in the dark, walking quickly and decisively through a 1700s busy city in the evening, with a sense of great urgency or danger. All different city sounds and events happening all around, horse hooves clicking against the pavement. He eventually stops abruptly, hardly believing he had managed to reach his destination, and yet he hesitates to proceed forward. He eventually walks through the door with a feeling of momentary relief, but the real story is only about to unveil, the fugue begins... One of my favourite Bach pieces, loved your insights and interpretation, it motivates me to come back and learn it again as it's been years since I last played it.

  • @fnersch3367
    @fnersch3367 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What you say here is what makes Bach utterly unique in the history of Western music. Bach was familiar with some of his German and Italian antecedents which influenced his compositional style. I wish you could analyze Toccata Nona (First Book of Toccatas and Partitas, Vol 2) of Girolamo Frescobaldi. His play with harmonies and temperament is very interesting to me and marks his genius. Love your presentations.

  • @grahamwevans9383
    @grahamwevans9383 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Wim for your wonderful analysis of the Bach B Minor Prelude. It makes it so much more interesting to learn to play!

  • @achaley4186
    @achaley4186 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super cool Wim. Thanks🙂🙏🏼🌹

  • @atmanpradez8543
    @atmanpradez8543 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful interprétation

  • @dragmio
    @dragmio ปีที่แล้ว

    Favorite prelude!

  • @konstantinosdedousis6538
    @konstantinosdedousis6538 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A superb theological interpretation. Thank you, so inspiring!!!

  • @greatpianomusic9457
    @greatpianomusic9457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful tutorial. Thank you. I especially enjoyed your ending.
    I was taught this piece (and the Fugue) over 50 years ago, and my piano teachers goal for the Prelude was for me to play it as fast as possible without freezing up.
    So I am delighted to hear your insightful approach of this Prelude.
    Much appreciated. 🇨🇦

  • @ulrichraisch3437
    @ulrichraisch3437 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wirklich berührend diese persönliche Deutung dieses oft zu Tode gehetzten Präludiums !
    Manche werden sagen : das ist " zu romantisch " für Bach,
    und das auch noch unter Berufung auf " die historische Aufführungspraxis ".
    Ich finde es mutig - und deshalb wertvoll, weil inspirierend,
    wenn ein Interpret seine persönliche Geschichte mit einem Musikstück erzählt.
    DANKE - und gerne weiter so !
    Gruß aus Stuttgart, wo J.S. Bach vielfältig " gepflegt " wird !
    Post Scriptum : 300. Geburtstag von Bach's Inventionen-Vorwort 1723 :
    " am allermeisten eine cantable Art im Spielen zu erlangen "
    ( das Video hier kann das auf sehr persönliche Weise veranschaulichen ).

  • @jouediii5152
    @jouediii5152 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you ❤

  • @user6401
    @user6401 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A little “as above, so below “… a little darkness; but in the end, one finds the light. I loved your interpretation!

  • @anibalcorreablanco6905
    @anibalcorreablanco6905 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extraordinaria explicación , saludos desde Chile .

  • @nattyhtsmom
    @nattyhtsmom 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much!

  • @rodrigogalliano4609
    @rodrigogalliano4609 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it!

  • @LanguageLounge
    @LanguageLounge ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my first "major" pieces which I learnt for the piano. Nice interpretation and a very insightful video!

  • @billyvitale8994
    @billyvitale8994 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wonderful.. real music played and described by a real musician. Someone who really know, feals and seeks to understand... music. refreshing to say the least. I eas wondering if you could do something covering the evplution of Bachs work throught the years...

  • @dominiquegraff3884
    @dominiquegraff3884 ปีที่แล้ว

    Merci pour nous prendre par la main et apprendre a écouter avec le cœur et la sensibilité !

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I keep coming back to this analysis, and as my music education improves the goal of being able to play this becomes ever closer. But you help me dream.

  • @XRADESHAHR777
    @XRADESHAHR777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful!

  • @fnersch3367
    @fnersch3367 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @maurofarrugia8546
    @maurofarrugia8546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful interpretation. I enjoyed it!

  • @thehalf-bakedorganist
    @thehalf-bakedorganist ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for your thoughtful insight into this wonderful piece. It's really eye-opening. Very interesting.

  • @rubinsteinway
    @rubinsteinway ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I happen to mostly disagree with your metronome/cut time discussions, this interpretation and discussion of the C-minor Prelude is quite wonderful. Including the tempo.

  • @Stigggs
    @Stigggs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just started working on this piece. Your explanation is a huge help. Thank you.

  • @pavelvasianovych4030
    @pavelvasianovych4030 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice! Thank you for this video! I like it very much!

  • @susankinney5193
    @susankinney5193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Finally got a chance to watch this, and of course it was amazing!! Please keep these videos coming! Fascinating! 😊

  • @alhfgsp
    @alhfgsp ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant explanation of the harmonic direction and rhythmic motion of this prelude by Bach.

  • @patricklowder3550
    @patricklowder3550 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the excellent and passionate presentation. Thank you for making connections I was not aware of.

  • @maurozanchetta648
    @maurozanchetta648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favourite piece by Bach! Thank you for sharing you ideas about it, I loved the video...

  • @skanda.skanda
    @skanda.skanda ปีที่แล้ว

    A fine presentation that renders beauty to the music.

  • @bryanbarajasBB
    @bryanbarajasBB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to memorize this piece❤Describes what my emotion is and me struggling out of it😊

  • @SeanRawnsley
    @SeanRawnsley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely and completely BRILLIANT I have been struggling with this piece for many years and you have finally made sense of it for me. Many thanks - a wonderful way to talk about Bach.

  • @jellybean7931
    @jellybean7931 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice contribution,- i like it!

  • @ppmartorella1
    @ppmartorella1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:56 Ah! Yes, the wonderful Tierce de Picardie! It uplifts my spirits at the conclusion of the Prelude…

  • @richardstannard3139
    @richardstannard3139 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is always a pleasure to listen to an old friend with a new understanding.

  • @DagobertoEspinoza
    @DagobertoEspinoza ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. I love what you're doing.

  • @JorgeElgueraL
    @JorgeElgueraL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your explanation, really connected with it. My gramma played this piece every morning so it means a lot to me since I can remember. I feel the same as you explain on the ending , it really takes you out of the Cm mood somewhere else

  • @JoshWalshMusic
    @JoshWalshMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my favorite pieces by Bach. Thank you Wim!

  • @nazelgazer
    @nazelgazer ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful job on a difficult subject to unpack! Now a fan, glad I found this site! Many Thanks, Carlo

  • @ericmirza9497
    @ericmirza9497 ปีที่แล้ว

    Delightful

  • @Insig385
    @Insig385 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this was so useful - I love this prelude for first half but never understood the second half until now! it's making me appreciate this prelude (and the ending) so much more. thank you!

  • @aussiechiro
    @aussiechiro ปีที่แล้ว

    You explanation satisfies me. Very well described.

  • @wolkowy1
    @wolkowy1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Getting to the essence of music - that is the way. I completely agree because that is exactly what I feel myself when I play music-notes of pieces that I love, although I may realize it in another way - but the principle is the same. BRAVO! Excellent upload.

  • @tetracor
    @tetracor ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW ! Amazing, inspiring. First time to hear this. Thank You much.

  • @alfredoaffini9495
    @alfredoaffini9495 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lesson! Thank you ❤️

  • @bobnewman7781
    @bobnewman7781 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very reflective analysis. I’ve enjoyed your interpretation. It makes justice with this great piece of music, which is not just an acrobatic exercise .
    It is one of my favorites preludes. So musical, creative and valid!

  • @nancyconard5129
    @nancyconard5129 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for shining a new light on this very difficult to listen to gem! I hear (and see) it in a new light. So happy I found yu.

  • @Wulfhartus
    @Wulfhartus ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @oceanjaws
    @oceanjaws ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beautiful interpretation. Thanks :)

  • @raulcheva
    @raulcheva ปีที่แล้ว

    A grat channel find! Thanks for sharing such beauty and deep knowledge of music🎶😍❤️🎧

  • @bbbartolo
    @bbbartolo ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you. this is the kind of step-by-step thinking and feeling that provides real insight to the listener who is not a musician. you are ideally articulate in both word and note to advance one's own experience.

  • @ErickPaquin
    @ErickPaquin ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great, very interesting, thanks!

  • @peymannoorbakhsh4749
    @peymannoorbakhsh4749 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved your interpretation. Not only does it make many sense, it is also very efficient and useful for teaching deep concepts of music.

  • @Gustavofeanor
    @Gustavofeanor ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic

  • @donaldcatton4028
    @donaldcatton4028 ปีที่แล้ว

    My intuitions explained…so good…

  • @andreaskrohn4960
    @andreaskrohn4960 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great idea! la musica celeste.

  • @J.A.Seyforth
    @J.A.Seyforth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phenomenal playing and musical breakdown, and the sonics remind me of Indian raga like music but straight from Bach right there. Thanks you for this! I'll have to watch it many times to understand it fully

  • @manuelgonzales6483
    @manuelgonzales6483 ปีที่แล้ว

    My connection with Bach's music is very mysterious. But hearing you talk about it is always a pleasure. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and knowledge. 🦫

  • @svenpohl4858
    @svenpohl4858 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats that this video did so well ❤

  • @dr.rolanddavis
    @dr.rolanddavis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr Winters,
    Thank you for your artistry and inspiration. I appreciate your work and perspective in this and your other series.
    I am looking forwarding to more Beyond the Notes.
    I wish you health and joy and many more rapturous musical moments.
    -Dr D

  • @umstadukuleleren674
    @umstadukuleleren674 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are a great musicman

  • @RichardAuber
    @RichardAuber ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful playing and passionate explanation. I can not separate this prelude from the fugue. One resolves into the next so seamlessly.

  • @eliastaglang
    @eliastaglang ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So interesting! Thank you

  • @Garrett_Rowland
    @Garrett_Rowland ปีที่แล้ว

    I really look forward to more videos in this series.
    Pieces from the well tempered clavier are great topics, since they are all self contained and mostly just a few pages in length. Perfect for a focused, ten minute video.