The Watchers, Artificial Intelligence, & Ancient Evils
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- In this episode of Haunted Cosmos, Brian and Ben discuss everything from the Biblical watchers, fallen spiritual beings, Enochian magic, and whether or not the demons are influencing AI models. Buckle up.
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You guys should do a piece on CERN , and some of the rumors about what they are truly trying to do with that collider .
Yep.
Someone may have already mentioned this, but just in case:
Carl Gustav Jung was absolutely not a materialist. He was a HUGE mystic very deeply steeped in the Hermetic Mystical Tradition.
He posed publicly as a “straight-shooting”, materialist scientist, but as the years went by after his death the horrible (and horrifying because of his modern influence over the field of psychology and popular culture) truth of his Hermetic Worldview has become so clear.
I’m anxious for you guys to do an episode on Hermeticism and it’s influence over our fallen world-especially in the past 1,000 years!
Keep up the great work, guys!
😮That sounds really interesting!
What exactly is that ?
Thank you for clarifying
As a software engineer, I can tell you that the background of AI systems is really very different from normal code. We can make them do what we intend, and they do it very well. But oddly (and I don't mean this to be mystical, but in reality) we can't really explain how it does what it does. We are generating complex engines that take some input and are able to generate some output. The fact that we can't explain what it does step-by-step I think opens it up to nefarious manipulation by the spiritual realm. I've actually been musing on that for a while.
Interesting...
Terrifying
God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates A.I. .
@@jasoncooper6047please tell me that was a reference to Jurassic park! 😂
@@jasoncooper6047AI decimates Man..AI inherits the earth
Oh snap! This freaks me out! That AI girl thing is super interesting and scary! Almost my 20 year anniversary of being plucked from alcoholism and the occult by my Lord and Savior…suddenly feeling even more grateful than ever.
Congratulations. Did you do the 12 steps?
At one point I was drawn in to studying the occult even as a christian (at least nominally) youth. By the grace of God, He stopped me. Its so great to hear all these things from a reformed Christian perspective. To see just how dangerous they are, and how powerful our Christ is by comparison.
There is nothing and no one who can challenge God.
@@JesusistheonetrueGod Psalms 2
I would be interested in an episode on the Marian apparitions, their message/doctrine, and subsequent outcome
YES!!
@@Ev_deGallery our lady of Guadalupe, Lourdes, and Fatima have influenced millions of people just as the apparition of Gabriel or Moroni have for Islam and Mormonism.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_apparition
L.A. Marzulli has an intriguing take on Fatama that links it to UFO events (which he believes are demonic in nature).
Agreed! I have studied Fatima and several other apparitions extensively and would be happy to share my research on the subject if needed. The parallels between Marian apparitions and UFO/alien phenomenon are striking and clear.
Definitely!!
Ben’s argument about AI is pretty reasonable now that I’ve thought about it. I’m somewhat familiar with a lot of AI techniques from my master’s degree and some of them are notorious black boxes. Not only do they involve thousands or millions of calculations when used but usually those calculations look nonsensical to a human trying to examine a working AI model manually. It seems possible that a demonic power familiar with the process could adjust them behind the scenes to both work the way the human wants them to and do stuff like make Loeb. There would be no good way to know when looking at the model even if a human being could hold the whole thing in their mind at one time.
"There's more to this world than just stuff"
New subscriber here - I just heard about you guys from Right Response Ministries!
I had always wondered why the Medieval hymn "St. Patrick's Breastplate" includes a verse praying for protection "against the knowledge that defiles." I bet the writer was probably thinking about this very subject.
I bind unto myself today, the strong name of the Trinity,
By invocation of the same, the Three in One and One in Three...
"People think they are in charge, but the demons are truly the ones doing the leading."
This reminds me of a dream I had recently. I saw a group of elite world leaders at a table in a dimly lit room and they would call upon these spiritual entities from above to give them knowledge and guide them in making decisions over our entire world.
These elite leaders thought that these entities were doing good to them, but the truth was that they hated these elite people and were seeking to destroy them. The entities were using them like puppets, like a pawn in a chess game.
Lots to discover via the unseen realm by Michael Heiser ... Dude truly opened me up to reading The Word through the eyes of ancient peoples as opposed to reading theough the eyes of tradition.
Heiser was the last big, very big, step I was lead to by the Holy Spirit in my faith rebuilding. Glad I had a solid foundation before that because my head spun at least 3 years trying to wrap my brain around all the "foreign concepts" in Unseen Realm and even more spinning when Reversing Hermon came out. That's when the Bible exploded into 3-D or 4-D and changed my understandings drastically and Thank God for that. The Bible has not been the same since.
Yes, he helped me so much. The Lord blessed us with his ministry.
RIP Michael
That stuff about John Dee was terrifying. Even if I wasn't a Christian, why would I want to mess around with powers like that? If you do believe such powers exist (again, even as a non-Christian) what makes you think puny little you is able to understand or handle such beings? Why would you assume they'd want to talk to you? They're obviously greater than you are, otherwise you wouldn't be seeking out their knowledge. How do you know they're "good"? How do you know they wouldn't vaporize you out of existence? Or worse, capture you & torture you? You have no idea what these being might be like. So what makes you think you even have the right to approach them? How arrogant can you be? It's mind boggling to me. I would be terrified!
Thirsty for power
I guess so! Makes me shudder.@@gregs157
That exact type of person is also the same one that practices witchcraft. They’re just often deceived into believing the power is theirs. Total hubris.
You guys should start sharing the gospel in every episode. People need to know Jesus is Lord, he has power over everything, and the fear of the Lord leads to wisdom.
@@narcischism473I never heard the Gospel until I HEARD it preached by a man with conviction, direct, pulling no punches. Trying to soft glove the Gospel has us where we are today.
Is it ever ok to talk about somethings without explicitly sharing the gospel? There are entire books of the Bible that make no explicit mention of the gospel, yet they still point to, and glorify God. For example, Ecclesiastes doesn’t contain an overt gospel presentation. Do you think it should?
This comment is an example as to why I walked away from the church years ago. Christians often feel they have a God given duty to direct others how to do Christianity and each person's individual mission. Sheesh. Tend your own garden and let God lead ....
@@icantdrive75bro. Calm down. There's a time and place for everything
Sharing the gospel *in a discussion that's all about these important life questions* is unbiblical? When there are people listening that may be lost and going to hell, but they listen because they are interested in the topics? How does that even make sense?
"Christians often feel they have a God given duty to direct others how to do Christianity and each person's individual mission."
So why are YOU doing it? Sheesh.
You walked away from the church because you chose to. You walked away from the church because you chose to rebel against Jesus Christ. Repent, while He still grants you breath to do so!@@KrazyKatLadyx2
Dang, I've literally listened to every show for the past couple days. Love what you guys are doing 👍
I saw the hatman in my early teens as i started delving hard into occult and sigil/rune magic. I was fully awake, and my friend who was with me saw it as well, though he claimed the glowing eyes were reflectors along the driveway shining through the brush and the outline was just tree limbs and shadows. Coulda been, though I don't think so.
The sleep paralysis episodes started when i started practicing sigil magic rather than just researching it. I saw shadow people frequently at all hours and locations (as well as a shadow deer which creeps me out the most). All of that has been improving since I begged for the Lord's forgiveness and repented of my wickedness.
It is absolutely demons
It's no coincidence this knowledge has found its way back into the minds of the Remnant.
That's right! This is what we're battling! And battles are more often won when you know and understand the enemy.
Please do an episode on Jack Parsons and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory
I like your channel because it’s not only intriguing but you always add history or education to these stories. I can also appreciate all the research that you put into each episode, both biblical and secular.
Came from Right Response Ministries episode on watchers. And I must say I’m hooked with the content of this channel. New subscriber 🙏🏻
Yeah so guys DON'T look up the loab thing. I did and just saw the woman briefly and I totally regret it. Immediately closed the window. not joking, don't do it
just for context, I regularly butcher my own livestock, so I'm not exactly squeamish
Dude, I did the same thing as well after the first episode. Absolutely regret it as well. 10/10 recommend NOT satisfying your curiosity.
Same here. I just googled the name, and the lone image of just the woman's face freaked me out.
Yep, same, and I agree with you 100%. Never again. Gonna be listening to Scripture readings continuously for weeks just to detox.
@@Adela1066 lol
Jeff Durbin recommended, super cool series. The Loab stuff is nuts and creepy af
Yes Loab! Super creepy
Apologies if anyone has pointed this out already, but spell Loab backwards and see if it doesn't remind you of a famous god of yore...
Something that confused me: are we giving credence to the non-canonical Book of Enoch?
Please consider listing any books/authors/resources mentioned so we can look them up later. Also, please add time stamps! This is fascinating, but it's like drinking from a firehose. It would help so much to be able to quickly skip back to re-listen to portions that were confusing/difficult. Thank you!
+1
Heiser's Unseen Realm is a great starting point; follow his bibliography re: 1 Enoch for the Amar Annus scholarly article, etc.
Welcome to the rabbit hole!
The biblical authors quoted from Enoch… the book makes the Bible make so much better sense for me…
Where is that?@@TLTSofit
If you guys think spirals are unhinged, I dare you to look into black cubes (and pentagons, which are 2D cubes) in religions around the world, saturn and its north pole, ancient religions' understanding of saturn, and ufo's. That is a truly unhinged (but highly interesting) rabbit hole, in the same vein as the watchers
Thank you for giving knowledge that edifies
Thanks for listening!
I had an experience as a 4th grade teacher last year Ive never had before in 10 years of teaching. One of my girls started drawing the same creepy face all over her notebooks and in her journals we use at school across all subject areas. It had a Cheshire like grin. Then she began writing the word suicide on everything. Her mother discovered horrific writings on notecards inside her closet that described in detail murders and cannibalism. We spent months trying to get her to stop. She is bright, functions otherwise normally no signs of medical or mental illness. Has friends (that she started to drag down into this pit with her-had to put what was equivalent to a restraining order on her). She wouldn't stop doing it no matter what we all threatened, mom included. When asked if she was suicidal she'd act like that was ludicrous and that it was innocent shock value kind of fun. No 9 year old female is like this. We called DHS and they didn't do anything. Tried to unearth possible sexual abuse, no other signs of that. It was disturbing and terrifying to have that spirit in my class. Praying for her. She had to have come across something with her free access to the Internet that her mother divulged.
Feels like you just scratched the surface in this topic, can we please do a multiple episode deep dive
A very interesting book on this topic I would recommend (although certainly not endorse every word of) is Stephen Quayle's Genesis 6 Giants. He has done a lot of research and thinking on this topic.
More than Dr Micheal Heiser.?
I am now convinced that spirals are evil, thank you Ben Garrett for your wisdom
The FB👀 put out a release of Pedo symbols that they use, and they look like "spirals". Pretty crazy stuff
Maybe the most insightful one yet. Love the cold open debunking Jung and archetypes. His theory always seemed like a complicated way to avoid the most simple explanation of common mythology
As far as spirals/snake/serpents go, does that have any bearing on Christ’s words to be wise as serpents but innocent as doves? Or the serpent rod that Moses had to lift up to which those poisoned had to look on to be saved? -Serpents are usually thought of as crafty/wise. Spirals remind me of a tornado or water circling a drain.. Almost like a kind of force that one can get caught up in and pulled to/thrown by. Does a spiral necessarily have to be evil in and of itself? What about a snake? Just some random thoughts that came to mind as you talked about it.
Well every animal on earth was created by God so snakes arent inherently evil remember everything the devil/demons do is a perversion and in spite of God's will so using the form or idea of one of his creations is possible.
John Dee was Queen Elizabeth's spymaster. He had a lot of influence. Also, John Dee signed his reports as 007 where Ian Fleming got Jams Bond's code name from.
Maybe you guys will talk about it more if you really get into giants and Nephilim in a future episode, but there was always something I was confused about. If the whole creation of the Nephilim happened pre-flood as it seems to indicate in Genesis, then how did the sons of Anak exist during the time of Samuel and Kings and such? It seems to me that the only two possible explanations are angels continued to mate with humans after the flood, or one or more of Noah's daughter-in-laws had to be a descendent herself. Either of those cases seems strange to me though because why wipe out humanity if that was part of the reason, but then let descendants slip through the cracks like that? If the whole thing with the sons of God and the daughters of men continued, it seems odd it would be specifically mentioned as a thing that was happening before the flood, but not mentioned afterwards. Just wondering if either of you had any thoughts or theories about that.
Genesis 6:4 CSB
The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days AND AFTERWARD, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them. They were the powerful men of old, the famous men.
The nephilim were said to be on the Earth after that time also. I personally believe they continued to intermingle with humanity even after the flood.
Yeah, I guess that's the most likely option.
@@Emilis2023”when the sons of” should be translated ‘whenever’.
@@jmreg7391 That's interesting. I've never heard that before. Is there somewhere I can go to look that up? Thank you.
@@Dive-Deeper any OT Hebrew interlinear. Chuck Missler has a good lesson on it.
That discussion of spirals reminded me a whole lot of Uzumaki. Really eerie story, and super similar to what y’all were talking about.
Ben, Junji Ito agrees with you on spirals being evil, he even wrote a story about it called Uzumaki (Japanese word for spiral).
I am familiar with some of his stuff but need to check this out!
@hauntedcosmos_ you should! But be aware, it is in line with his particular brand of disturbing/not "church friendly."
that 10:19 thumbing bout made have a higher level experience... As i jumped up about 5 feet.
I find the thought process being influenced by demonic entities very intriguing and more than likely true. Being a person in the AA fellowship who also has become pretty knowledgeable on scripture and the history of both AA and scripture. Then seeing the similarities and connections are crazy. In AA we are blocked from God. We do the 12 steps to become unblocked and more God conscious. Then when you take the fact that one of the watchers taught plants, roots, herbs, sorcery etc. Which was to pretty much open up doors to the spiritual realm. Which is what we do when we drink or drug. It's not called "Wine and Spirits" for nothing. God doesn't state "be of sober mind for fun. Us alcoholics suffer from a spiritual malady that causes us to be self-centered and selfish. We are very egotistical. We have character defects that really are the 7 deadly sins. These vices run us. We do the 12 steps to close them doors. Dont get it confused though. This stuff doesn't just happen to alcoholics and drug addicts. Also take the idea that a alcoholic or drug addict are like dirty, homeless broken ppl. I didnt drink every day nor did i drink a lot. We have a saying in AA " i dont have a drinking problem i have a thinking problem". Now this spiritual malady can affect ppl in many ways. As the video speaks on the demonic entities using our thoughts. Understand a person may open up the doors by drinking or drugging. Thats not the only way these doors can be opened. The world tricks us into doing so in so many different ways. With it being said that they can control our thoughts without us even knowing it is pretty interesting. Since in AA thats what the spiritual malady does. We don't even know it is controlling us. Not until we start to do the steps. This is just one of many things that the Bible and the Big Book of AA have in common. I came into the fellowship only knowing about God. Now i know Him. Before that you wouldn't have been able to tell me that. I swore i knew God. Of course that was pride talking not me.
Good podcast, the background music is too loud and dissonant especially when you are reading Carl Jung quotes.
John D is sounding alot like Jack Parsons.
The Jon D story sounds almost exactly like Joseph Smith
Great podcast.
Wow I just so happened to post that proverbs 25:2 on FB today. Correct me if I'm wrong but when I hear that I think of science, and the sciences for example or mysteries of the universe. Biblical mysteries. God hides them, science "discovers" them and marvels over them. Science is just finding out how God designed things to work.
I agree science isnt disproving God but building understanding and displaying over the works of God
I will say, that Loab stuff is intriguing but when compared to the work of H.R. Ginger, the monster from the movie Species (NOT family friendly, But neither is HR Giger) or the game "Scorn", also VERY unfamiliar friendly. Unless I'm missing something, is not that freaky.
Now, that Loab dose seem to be this... whatever... and these AI "art" websites seem to have it as a root person, that is.... interesting.
I mean when you look at what was input (Loab) and REVERSE it, it comes to Baol, which is EERILY close to Baal...just sayin', ain't hard to connect the dots here...
Just discovered the channel, btw - BINGING. Keep up the good work.
Great podcast! And, no, I'm not going looking!! 😮 Thanks for the information, it's vital!
Loab was disturbing
I was stupid and looked up Loab...it definitely was nightmare fuel.
So super excellent!! Keep spreading the truth!
What was that demonic voice in the beginning?
Was a sound effect of random latin words
Many blessings keep up the great works
I hate you for making me click on the Birds Aren't Real website. That's just cruel.
love you guys, thanks
Let's go!!!
Hey! Great episode
thanks guys
I wish I could find a church within 50 miles of Seattle that believes in the supernatural. Everything is sugar coated Christianity
Look up Rev. James Kearney (PRMI).
"Spirals are evil." *Junji Ito enters the chat*
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- Roberto Junior Garcia Mendoza
First comment!
Who watches the watchers?
This guy!
I remember Hancock saying something along the lines of he can't be Christian because it would apparently cloud his judgement. Ha... If the man only knew. Thanks boys.
Well I'm glad some of us are on the same page! I've been piecing together truth I've found over the years to come to these type of conclusions. The foundation of the Bible is the only way to not get caught up in the madness, deception, and lies!
i had a tulpa from about nov 2011 to feb 2012, it's a neurological phenomenon
I was following you well, until you started talking about a pre-earth. Sin brought death, so how would death have come first?
What's the Latin phrase at the beginning of the episode? 0:30 seconds in..
You mentioned AI art, what about AI robots? What are your thoughts on them? I think they're not a good idea to create.
You should see how creepy monoliths are when I have done monoliths in the past.
Squatchee= the Squatchers! Hahaha 🤣
This sounds a lot like what Steven Greer is trying to do, in my opinion.
Sounds like modern science.
I wonder if earth-chan counts as an earth mother figure
I want to talk to u about AI...please. I have a theory and with the knowledge yall have about actual bible parts, is what Its missing and a way to prove it........ I don't know how to reach out other than message you here and hope you see it...please and thanks.
Haunted Cosmos would be such an awesome name for a scary story channel... this is NOT a scary story channel.
You are describing our Patron show, The Dusty Tome!
@@hauntedcosmos_ I will have to look into it... it's not a diss on the channel! It's obvious you guys put a ton of time into your content, "Haunted Cosmos" just seems like an excellent Segway into Cosmic Horror (The Most Difficult Horror Sub-Genre) and I was sad when it wasn't that 😅
My issue is if the flood was to destroy the Nephilim, then God failed. God doesn't fail. There has to be more to the flood than just killing off the Nephilim.
does this mean that the book of Enoch is Anake?
"spirals are evil"
"Jigsaw has entered the chat"
I would be interested to see what would happen if an AI learning program was coded with a Christian worldview…
See the Gab AI. They specifically made an AI for that.
WE NEED BIGFOOT!!!
So the government doesn’t have the bodies of these creatures? What I’ve seen with my own eyes across a country road in a field and what I thought was a old man was a figment of my imagination? My phone was being tricked too? Shining my flashlight on its eyes and watching it’s eyes light up like a gator . Outside of Gainesville, Florida Route 225 . I think they have physical bodies. I also have pictures of a cloud sitting on the ground in the middle of the night and videos.
I have to say, you should do more research into the Book of Enoch since Yeshuah, Jesus Christ, himself quoted from it when he said "you are in error, not knowing the scriptures for in the resurrection you will neither marry nor are given in marriage but will be as the Angels" in response to the Pharisees trying to trip him up on the "wife who married the brother that died, then his brother who then died" and so on. There is no other part in the, as you say, inherent Word of God. that makes such an inference about what happens when we die other than Enoch. Additionally, all of the Apocryphal books were part of EVERY cannon before the council of Nicea and exists as part of the Word in the oldest Bibical cannon, the Ethiopic. To say that First Enoch is not part of the Word is misleading and uninformed. It definitely was and is still.
Lo ab in hebrew would be 'not father,' wouldn't it? Like how lo ammi means 'not My people' and lo ruhama means 'not pitied?'
I've spent many years just being afraid. I needed to hear that Jesus conquered all
Permanent magnet motors can have an efficiency of 98%. Normal electric motors have an 80% efficiency.
Sorry I just had to because I’m in factory automation. 😂
But Jesus is Lord still. 🙌
Like your content guys. 👍
Lo ab transliterated into Hebrew means 'not the father'.
I was so confused at first, when you guys were calling egregores demon gods. But then you got to Yung and the actual modern understanding of egregores. And I saw what you were getting at.
But, have you heard of servitors? They are a lesser form of egregore. Made only by one person, for a specific purpose. Wether it's to find you a job, or to find your keys, or any number of mundane things.
But they will just die off if you don't feed them with energy or attention.
They don't become egregores until many people put their attention to it. Then they take on a life of thier own, and can exist long after you've finished working with them.
This in my opinion, is the origin of all the gods. A few people believed in god x then the belief spread and that egregore took on a life of it's own. And spread far and wide.
And yes I am an occultist, found your channel because I love scary stories and TH-cam recommended this channel.
I don't agree with your religion or worldview, but it's interesting to see how you guys manage to call everything demons.
Cosmetics!!!!!
How do you know its not divinely inspired, did the ETERNAL infinite GOD tell you that?
Awwww man! Wtf!?! Did I just hear in the beginning!!!?!!!! Geeeeez could have been a “welcome spell or curse” & we wouldn’t even know it. At least pin (it) what it actually says.😑🤨🤦🏻♀️
How is Enoch not scripture when they found more books then genesis in the Dead Sea scrolls
The Dead Sea scrolls don't determine the canon of Scripture.
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This was a good episode, guys. I like that you attributed the claims of Joseph Smith to a spiritual experience and not just to him being a scam artist or crazy. But his claims don't match up with Mohammed's so it's a false comparison. IF you are interested I made a short about your claim here: th-cam.com/users/shortsoJL0CuWOSzw?si=wqhNbmZxSS_QTAkB
Copy that watch set. Amen brothers in Christ
Id thumbs up this, but its right at 777 likes, dont want to rock the boat😢
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GBU GUYS JESUS LOVES YOU
This AI thing could just be another creepypasta, similar to Slender Man.
We talk about AI as if it is this incredibly powerful tool, and it is. However, it is even still only ever a more powerful autocorrect (or in this case, predictive text) engine. It uses a weighted algorithm to determine what is the most likely result you are looking for based upon previous input and predicting what you want and filling itcin one word at a time.
Here's the thing, though. Slender Man started out as a creepypasta, but two girls in Wisconsin ended up stabbing their friend 19 times trying to appease him.
The *idea* that there's something going bump in the night can be used just as effectively by Satan as a physical material thing.
Dude, I'm a celtic scholar and practicing druid. Danu has never been represented by a serpent. The only serpents I've ever seen are the horned serpents of cernunos on the gunderstrap cauldron
You sound so weird....i tried, but maybe you should act so scholarly....just a thought
How SAD That u have to look in the Book of Enoch....Duh....It isn't the Word of God...stop there