INTJs love INTPs: Relationship and Friendship Compatibility
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
- This video discusses why INTJs love INTPs in all aspects of relationships whether it's platonic friendships or romantic relationships.
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i’m an INTP i just met this INTJ and for the first time basically, i feel like i have someone that i can talk about my random interests and all this logical nerdy stuff because all my other friends are ESFJ, ESTJ, ESFP ect and they don’t really care about stuff but me and the INTJ just start talking about stuff
That's how I felt when I first met my INTP as well 😀
I am an INTP married to an INTJ man and this is the best talk I've ever seen on how INTPs and INTJs interact. I love the term "mind mates" because that's exactly how we first connected as friends. INTJs are great to talk to because they will dive deep into a topic and they tend to have expert knowledge on the things that interest them. INTPs value knowledgeable people who can give us a greater understanding of a topic.
Congrats on finding yourself an INTJ! I always love hearing about the pairing because our dynamic is one of the smoothest and easiest. Keep challenging your INTJ, because that's the best way to make him grow as a person and please take care of him for me ❤
Hey, can INTJs connect well with INTPs in the long run :') ? Because I thought... this guy in my class who's an INTP is quite interesting..(I'm INTJ).. but almost all yt videos analysis say that INTP and INTJs are rivals
@@asheghefarsi I personally don't think INTP and INTJ are natural rivals. If respect is on both sides we find a lot in common. The main conflict can arise between INTP's desire for flexibility and INTJ's desire for focus. But if they work together the INTJ can help the INTP organize and prioritize thoughts and goals and the INTP can help the INTJ to fill in blind spots and discover options their laser-focus might have missed.
I'm an INTJ that's been talking to this girl and I noticed that whenever we had a question (no matter how small), we would both instantly grabbed our phones to google to find the answer. I've never seen anyone else do that. I assumed she was also an INTJ. I asked her and she is an INTP. It made me notice the difference in the Google search. I'd find the answer and read a small amount to make sure it's accurate and drop it, while she's still reading it a couple minutes later.
This is the EXACT reason why my INTP and I have a rule that we can't Google anything when we're around each other. It's more fun to Ni & Ne the topic to see how the other person's mind works and see where we end up (even if the answer is incorrect) because it's just fun to play the abstract game. You should try it with her, you'll learn a lot about each other 😂
Do you even intp if you don’t go at least two links further down the rabbit hole? You can totally take this opportunity to learn so much more, why doesn’t everybody do this??!!!!
As an INTJ who loves my INTP friend, it drives me nuts when she is loyal to terrible friends. I have an INTP sister as well, and I know that INTPs tend to be more forgiving and generally much better at expecting goodness out of people. For myself, there are just some things that if it's morally dubious or outright immoral and disrespectful, I really cannot see why I need to waste my time with the person. It's just really frustrating because as a friend, I really just want to tell her that her to leave these friends that are clearly using her, but also I feel like if I have already told her and she chooses to forgive them, it's not my place to tell her she's wrong. It's still her life decision. I love INTPs, but their lack of self-value when it comes to friendships seriously drives me nuts.
I understand how you feel because I've felt the same way about people I care about not just the INTPs. It really does drive me nuts but I learned that I was just projecting my own values onto them. They're humans and they can make their own decisions and will learn from their mistakes. Your only job is to be there when they need you ✊
Lmao I am that INTP. My ne helps me switch perspectives very easily, and I’m not very emotional so I easily forgive others.
My isfp friend spent 3 whole years trying to get me away from a toxic friend group.
Its not that we're forgiving, its that the dealing with the drama of speaking up far outweighs the peace we gain by just giving people what they want (to a point). Im curious to see how your intp friend/relatives respond when they reach their limit. Because when an intp explodes, theyre bringing YEARS of laser focused, pent up fire and fury with them.
@@diogenesdacynic8656this is the one…
All INTPs I’ve become friends with enable and engage in all of our craziest, controversial, or wild theories for better or worse. It’s awesome
Agreed, a simple conversation about pencils somehow eventually evolves into a conversation about space 😂
@@justcallmejon22 you know that popular story about NASA paying big money to develop a pen for writing in zero gravity, and the Soviets just gave their cosmonauts pencils? - okok. 🤐
INTP who loves, loves, loves an INTJ. Only person who knows my soul.
Sounds like a great relationship 🙂
Hey bro thanks for the hope in humanity, finally found a person who understands INTP
--INTP
A lot of INTJs understand understand INTPs, you guys are definitely one of us nerds ✊
Ah, as an INTP woman surrounded by ISTJs who despise my Ti-Ne, this gives me a self-esteem boost.
Don't ever feel like you're dispised by Te users (unless they tell you directly). Te appreciates the thoroughness of Ti, we're just not going to express it in a feely way 😁
@@justcallmejon22 aww yay that’s reassuring lol
I'm an ISTJ female married to an INTP male. I think INTPs are cute! Especially when they get so animated about things they are invested or interested in.
I also work with an INTP female and we get along great.
@@Rezzmari aww that’s so sweet! It’s so nice to hear, especially after my ISTJ roommate implied she’d rather watch me spontaneously combust than interact with me. Heh.
My best to you and your spouse
Yeah, I (intj) go to INTPs for the framework. I want the Ti depth, but I just find new ways to rearrange it so it's consumable to the public via Te. Basically when I want to reinvent the wheel and thing up a new flow for a system I like to scour intp's Ti for parts for my system :)
Very INTJ of you 😂
As a female INTP, my two and only best female friends are INTJ and INTP and it makes so much sense now knowing their personality types because theyre the only friends who understand me at all!!!! NOBODY GETS ME! I live in a stupid, logicless place so I've been doomed from birth apparently not to connect with people or the world. Thank God for my two besties... I'd be cooked without them. They are the WORLD to me.
Also, thought it would be funny to mention, my INTJ friend just basically adopted me as her friend the second she met me. She didnt connect or really talk much with anyone (I didnt know until later) but when we were waiting outside of religion class first day, she lit up and started talking to me energetically as if we were friends already! I was stunned! I briefly saw her in my small friend group but I only recall short introductions. She was quiet, but not this time! Next day I was being lead down town and going on boat rides and going on impulse adventures into stores and places! It was the most ecentful day of my life! Ever since I've basically been the duckling that follows her around whenever I can. She's basically the leader for me in societal life because I'd be dead if not LOL I cant navigate the real world's broken systems at ALL like she can! It's like a foreign language to me. Not my fault my idiot country is lawless. Just my fault I dont know how to play the game like she just knows.
Congrats on finding an INTJ! INTPs are great because it's nice to have a person who's almost always willing to go on adventures with us when we need to engage the world. Enjoy your adventures together, because it means more to her than she'll ever let you know 🙂
As an INTP, I see the difference in our thought processes clearly when doing certain tasks.. Ti + Ne makes things.. difficult, to say the least. Basically, we do not want to make a decision because we can see many ways that decision could be wrong, or put us in a bad position. Ni + Te is the exact opposite; it excels at determining the best route to take in a certain situation, and doesn't question their decision, instead deciding to put in an action, thus finalizing the task. This is evident when an INTP that is an amateur at Chess tries to play against a Te user. The INTP will take very long to come to a decision because they're calculating the risks taken by moving every piece in different locations, and deciding subjectively which piece is worth what. This is why I believe INTPs excel at puzzle games, where they can fully look at every part of a system, and break it down piece by piece, and then once understood, solve the problem. Whereas INTJs excel at strategy games more, where they can see a path to take from within that will help them reach a goal. It's quite a dynamic to behold.. My best friend is INTJ, and there are lots of things admire about him, and I believe him to me as well.
Congrats on landing yourself an INTJ! One of the easiest friendship to maintain for sure. I agree with everything you said with a slight caveat. Ni operates knowing that there's always going to be uncertainties and Te is confident on it's ability to be adaptable. So it's not necessarily that we don't question our decisions, it's more that it's the most efficient/effective route given the known variables but we will adjust as needed when the unknown arises. An INTJ questions ourselves more than we will ever let other people be aware of 😉
I'd say it only applies to immature INTPs. INTPs are naturally quick to make decisions due their Ti but there's a quirk with it prefering a great deal of accuracy. Basically, the speed of INTP decision making depends completely on how much they know since it gives them confidence, and how much they need to know to feel like they know enough is often unknown to them, lol. Normally - unreasonably a lot since Ne is not linear and prefers hopping around the world of ideas, collecting info chaotically.
I used to suffer a lot from analysis paralysis. After assessing this issue I concluded that I should give into my Ne more - let it drag me here and there, experiment with decision making, even if it makes chaos. And in order to give Ne the max amount of freedom I started developing Si to back it up and give me a feeling of some predictability through understandaing and remembering basic concrete things about the world. You know... How not to die, use societal structures, move around and what is the bare minimum of things that must be done systematically. It provides a way more dynamic and intuitive lifestyle. The core thing is simply to learn pragmatic basics about life - then you'll feel much safer going ooga-booga with decision making cuz you'll know enough to get yourself out of bad outcomes.
I’m INTJ, and I love my INTP friend, I feel like I would go mad in this world without them sometimes.
I have a feeling that all INTJs have at least one INTP friend that they're close to 😂
I'm an INTJ project manager for enterprise software dev and while I haven't typed the engineers on the team, I'm sure at least half of them must be INTPs. Our office hallways are lined with white boards and I see that 'ok, GO!' dynamic often. I'm usually one of the smartest persons in the room but I'm awed by these guys working out a function. Happy if I can at least stay within sight of the discussion but I usually have to go back and catch up later from the whiteboard scrawls.
It's always funny watching extroverts in a room full of devs because the extroverts want the devs to vocally express their thoughts and ideas and most of them need some time to think things through. Ti users are on a whole new level, it really is a sight to behold 😂
INTJ woman with an IT consultant job here. Or better: INTP dev translator and code documenter. I really should buy a popcorn machine for future meetings of INTPs vs. extroverted project managers.
Low maintenance is the exact way I would describe my relationship with my INTP friend. In fact, I'll go as far as to say I appreciate him because he forces me to come correct on my shit. There are a lot of times we'll be gaming and I usually play characters that have a bit of style, while he'll go for the more practical characters. How this usually ends up working is I'll be doing a lot of flashy techniques to move around and do things, but it makes me more precise in how/when I decide to so that stuff, cause I KNOW FOR A FACT, the moment I mess it up my INTP friend will be like, "So... what happened there?" and all I can respond with is "shut up." cause we both know what happened, I miscalculated and I got wrecked.
But we also have those amazing moments where I'll see him working out something to make sure people get their buffs/protections and such and I'll understand the ideal pattern he's going for and move into position to make it happen, since others aren't seeing what's going on, or if someone is sleeping at their job, I know I can always count on him to see how the plan is going awry and if he can adjust, he will without even needing to be asked because he knows what is supposed to happen and if it's possible to adjust. In the end, the same thing we both say to each other when those moments happen just generally applies to the overall relationship and that is, "Bruh, I love you man." 🥰
It's always funny when INTPs try to use Ti against our Fi. They're probably confused because we're so logical most of the time until there's something that goes against logic just because we feel like it. I know Ken is a low tier character but he's my favorite character INTP! 😂
@@justcallmejon22 Absolutely. Plus the ribbing we can give each other is always subtle enough that the "nerds" understand what is happening even if others don't. I remember in raid someone had mentioned one of my normal moves I like to exploit was "useless" in the fight because the boss arena and shape doesn't really allow for it to truly be utilized other than for damage. And admittedly that set off Auntie Fi like, "how dare you say anything I have is useless, I'm going to prove it's not," but when I went to execute, of course I miscalculated. The moment it happened I already saw it and was just like crap... and sure enough my INTP homie came over the mic with, "So... what happened there?" to which he got the expected response of, "shut up."
Fast forward two weeks later, and my INTP homie found himself in the exact same situation where he needed to do a similar move. I heard it over the mic when he was like, "crap... I think I'll need to try something..." and instantly knew what he was going for because it was really the only part in the fight you could pull off something like that. And of course me wanting to help told him, "You're going to need to move to X spot and then do your move," but it was in the heat of the moment so naturally he missed it being as on the spot as it was. The next pull we got to that point and to poke at him a little and it went as follows:
Me: Hey bro...
INTP: Yeah?
Me: I'm gonna do the thing.
Executes move as intended with no issues.
Me: Hey bro...
INTP: Yeah?
Me: Did you see me do the thing?
INTP: Uh huh...
Me: Cool.
And it was all love, no animosity. Just a very simple acknowledgement, and hopefully a learning example.😄
The thing about all the intps in my life is that they refuse to accept I'm not that into anime.
@L Lucky I don't hate it but I am really picky about it. The only ones I've seen in the past decade are Dr. Stone (Nerdy survivalist rebuilds from stone age) and My Hero Academia (Shakespearean level emotional roller coaster with enough power to make a robot misty eyed). The rest is nothing but shallow fan service heavy on spectacle.
Main Character in Dr Stone is intp too, which is kind of a funny coincidence
@@PaleGhost69 i recommend Monster! Really cool anime!!!
I'm more into anime than the INTPs I know 🙃
@@justcallmejon22 might be a Midwest thing. There isn't anything to do here. Literally the only museum is an old courthouse.
As an INTJ married to an INFJ, I would love to see you break down the pairing and friendship between these two and get your thoughts. Most of my close friends are INTPs. This was before I even knew or studied MBTI and cognitive functions. Amazing how that all worked out. Loving the videos Jon. Keep it up as long as you can. As an INTJ myself, I know we can get bored with projects the moment we lose the drive, interest, or feel that we have learned most of what there is to know about a particular topic. Hopefully, you can keep these videos going. I love watching your videos.
Thank you for the kind words, I really do appreciate the support. I intend on finishing this series on all types so the video on INFJs should be coming out soon 😁
Oooh INFJ! Yes, please do a video on them. I had a close INFJ friend until I gave them an unwanted reality check for which I got the door slam. This one always tried to pick my brain and analyse me. Got pretty annoying really quickly. But I have another INFJ friend, that I can easily talk to and don’t get any annoying vibes from.
I'm an INTP and I'm dating an INTJ woman. The relationship is definitely low maintenance and peaceful.
Congrats on finding an INTJ! Take care of her please because I know she's building her world around you 🙏
I'm an INTJ my close friend is INTP. I love how similar we are. It's really hard for me to connect and open up with people but i genuinely love her a lot, i feel myself when I'm with her. We think alike so i connect with her even more but the only thing i hate hate about her is how forgiving she is to people. She'll forgive people and let them take advantage of her on the other hand i an INTJ never forgive people if they have wronged me even once so i find it annoying when INTPs forgive people so easily. Another thing I've noticed is that even though we both are straightforward my INTP friend is straightforward in a nice way and I'm meaner.
Still she loves me 😂 we even joke around saying if you were a guy i would've married you, we are totally eachothers type but in similar gender.
I've been in situations with my INTPs where I question their loyalty with 'bad friends' because I would've left them a long time ago. That's the beauty of them, loyal even to people that don't deserve it. Protect your INTP, she sounds lovely ✊
Great video !
I can consider me lucky to have a brother INTP, even if we had few conversations.
No one of us did the first step to start a conversation, neither call or text, never 🤣 Maybe he think I don't exist anymore, maybe I think he doesn't exist anymore.
I am pretty sure one day he will tell me : "Oh, you are still alive"
I think we don't know each other, but we have a deep respect and kindness toward each other.
Make the first move and ask how he's doing 😁
I meet a Intj, I don't know if it was the first time that I meet one, but I always crave someone that wanted to discuss, to share point of view, and it was the first time that I was challenge at this extend, a true challenger ! I love the way he thinks, It's close and far at the same time to the way I think. Unfortunately, I catch feelings since I know him and I would prefer that their never exist, and to stay his friend. Anyway, Intj are lit people ☀️.
I understand your frustration, it's so easy for INTJs to fall for INTPs as well 🙃
I'm an INTP and my brother is an INTJ. Love him and respect him. We have interesting conversations though i think he thinks of me as a child, probably because i am one and due to our age difference.
Congrats! Easily one of the strongest duo out there. I'm sure he takes a lot of what you say into consideration, out of respect and disregards your age 😀
Dude, you nailed me with what was the bane of most of my dating life... basically the, "I don't want to ruin this relationship I value so much by accidentally making it awkward or broken either through initial rejection or a failed relationship". I have never understood why people do that when someone expresses feelings or something doesn't work out, and it made it soooo impossible to ever explore so many relationships. People have this tendency to reject wholy instead of reject and encourage continued friendship. I know this has to do with the way many people act when rejected too, but it is super frustrating none the less. I grew up with parents who divorced when I was 7, but are best friends still today, even as one has remarried. So, I guess I had a weird set of role models.
Your parents sound like great role models in the realm of healthy relationships, you're very fortunate to have grown up seeing that. I get it dude, there's an itch that only some people can scratch and I don't get why it's all or nothing but sometimes that's the reality. I get you bro ✊
I am an INTJ when I am done with someone I had a relationship that wasnt great I am done with them FOREVER. My INTP boyfriend was married twice and kept up with both women and stayed friends with them til each died! He even introduced #2 to #1 and while #2 resisted she ended up liking # 1....he even stayed with #2 in # 1's home on a trip....huh????Okay a really different type.
This is not just down to personality. In Denmark, 50 % of marriages end in divorce, and 50 % of these couples remain friends. So here it is not weird to remain friends. I even met one of my exhusband's ex-girlfriends at social gatherings occasionally. We got along just fine.
My husband is an intp and I am an intj. :3
As an INTP I think INTJ'S are great we basically speak the same language I can see those two types having a great friendship but I think both types need an extroverted intuitive type as a mind mate since INTJ'S and INTP'S won't make the first move in a relationship but spot on with your info on INTP'S .
There are a few INTPs dating INTJs in my comments! It's usually started by the INTJ but glad it's not as rare as one might think 😊
I'm an Intj (woman) in a relationship with an intp. We were coworkers and the day I was quiting I told him that he should give me his number 😊 everyone always tells me he was never going to ask me himself, even though he liked me at the time as well 😅
It's refreshing to hear that one of you eventually took charge 😂
@@justcallmejon22 I'm not sure if I would have asked him out if I wasn't quitting, he was going to be my boss and that's a big no-no. But, I'm sure it would've still been me asking 😅
@@justcallmejon22 the rule is Se users ask first
I think the reason for that is that asking a woman out seems rude because they calculate that women are propositioned constantly and they don't want to be 'annoying like that'
INTP Listening.
Jon I have been watching you for years. I always related alot to your videos, but it felt like there was just something slightly off. Recently when learning more about cognitive functions, I discovered that I was mistyped all this time, and I am actually an INTP! This video makes so mch sense to me now haha. Also side note, I am extremely introverted. Like I would choose never to hang around people. But somehow my house became the hang out spot, and my extrovert friends would just come over and use my place as an air b&b basically 😂it's exactly like you said. They bring everything, make all the plans, and somehow everyone shows up when I don't invite anyone 😭
I appreciate all the support and I'm happy to hear that you found your correct type! I don't know how you guys do it but being a loveable introvert that people want to spend time with is a skillset that I wish I had sometimes. Keep growing my friend ✊
I haven't watch bing bang theory but I always figured the Sheldon was probably more INTP than Leonard seem to me to be slighty more able to be goal oriented than Sheldon Am I wrong?
But a big thing about INTP vers INTJ is that INTP are not focus on going into action. There is a lot of introspection and this translate to the stereotypical lazy, sleeping all day image of the INTP while the INTJ , Judging is more action, goal oriented driven to accomplish what they want. Though both can be ambitious. INTP is extremely prone to self introspection and a very high level of perfectionism and is very interested in any sort of ideas while the INTJ is stereotypically very orderly, will master a subject and move to action.
I didn't type the characters in BBT so I'm not sure what their actual types are. I agree with the delineation of both type's strengths and weaknesses and I want to add that INTJs are perfectionists in our own right but we're aware that perfection is dicated by the situation. So what is perfect in one instance will but sub-optimal in another and Ni/Te will let an INTJ know when good is enough 😅
For me, It has been nothing short of a movie story! In short, my unusual reaction to office politics led me to introspect about my tendencies. thats how I found out that I am an INTJ and further researching on personality types, over last 2 months, I came to a conclusion that my boss for whom I had started developing soft corner is probably an INTP. I can't imagine how last two years of my life at this office has played out. Now after learning about my type, i have realised that each big step (e.g. voicing my concerns to the administration/ standing up for my values etc) i have taken there fits perfectly within INTJ personality, and how freedom to work and intellectual talk with my boss were destined to make me feel happy, understood and confident. I think this is the first time I am interacting with an INTP or any Ni/Ne kind that understands me, doesn't put any pressure. But it is really really different and difficult to navigate (due to power and gender differences, I can't be too inquisitive/friendly) yet intensely joyful. My feelings are getting involved and often I am afraid to lose this connection.
INTJs are humans as well so trust your Fi gut feeling until it doesn't feel right anymore. INTPs are great friends to have so I hope you two develop a friendship outside of work ✊
I've not spent much time with an INTP, though my INTJ BFF was pretty much the INTP/rest of reality translator during her high school years. Her friend would answer questions in class and no one else would understand him, and then the teacher would ask her to explain to the rest of the class what he just said. Also, she'd remind him to do things like stop running science experiments on his orange and actually eat his lunch.
He studied at MIT, I think, and took over his dad's engineering/consulting firm. Hopefully he doesn't need a translator for his clients.
If there are INTP girls that you know and are interested in, why not try flirting with them a little? I mean, they do have Fe, and are girls so have probably had some level of required training to identify emotions. You don't usually get to be a girl in this society without being beaten over the head with the expectation that you understand feelings, and finding some kind of coping mechanism to mimic what society wants. I would think they should pick up on it.
And maybe I should clarify that when I say flirt, I mean word play and strategy games or something along those lines. Because you're right that INTJ/INTP are mind mates. I mean, I'm not an iNTP, obviously, but as and NT girl, mind games rate highly as part of the dating experience. Not mean mind games, but things where you're gently batting the ball of conversation back and forth, bouncing ideas of off each other. Perhaps with an INTP offer to help with one of her experiments in particular.
I appreciate the advice! I think it's more along the lines that I don't see them being part of my plan right now and I appreciate the friendship. If I really wanted to make a move, I would've, but right now friendship > relationship 😅
@@justcallmejon22 Fair enough. Having friends is great. I was more reacting to the way you put things, as if dating was on the table, but you didn't want to risk it, rather than that it was off the table and you just enjoyed having great friends.
@@jenniferhanses My bad that it came off that way. These videos aren't scripted so I'm not really sure how they come off even after I edit them, I just hope they make sense 😅
I look at Fi and Fe often in terms of faith. I think Fi tend to look at themselves and think "am I a good person?" whereas I would think as an INTP "am I doing my part in the family of God?" I think Fe makes it easy for me as a Christian to understand that where I am isn't based on personal virtue as much as relationship with Jesus where I see Fi types (especially INFPs) as kicking themselves for personal failures.
That's a really good analogy! I've noticed my INTP and I getting into tiny debates because of that exact reason; my reasoning originating from within and his originating from the tribe. I will never fully understand Fe but I respect it ✊
For a year now I have this intj friend, we've connected through our love for reading, and since we've became best friends, we just teach each other many things and it's very fun! She teaches me BSL, French, German, I teach her more science stuff, but for languages I usually teach her Japanese, Romanian and Spanish.
We just love having someone to share our knowledge with, and because we're both so keen to learn, when the other says something, we just learn that by heart, and after a while we just show off to other friends, saying that we taught each other, and we're so proud of it!
Even though we're literally best friends, I also consider her a rival, as I'd like to surpass her in knowledge, though she's saying that I already know much more than she does. She's also my role model as she knows how to give proper advice, is very smart, and can handle difficult situations.
With other friends, I can't be sure if our friendship would last, but with her, I know it will, because I've talked to her about it, and she said that I won't need to worry because she'll never leave me, but rather try to work things out with me, which non of my other friends ever said before, and we've both expressed how much we value for each other, many times.
With her I can be fully honest, and the same goes for her, thus we're not afraid of showing our honest thoughts and emotions.
When we became friends, that's when I realised she was the friend I've always needed
"When we became friends, that's when I realised she was the friend I've always needed", THAT IS SO FREAKING CUTE! I hope you two stay friends forever ❤
The pairing always makes me think of C.S. Lewis (INTJ) and J.R.R. Tolkien (INTP)
I never knew that they were best friends! Thank you, that's a cool fun fact 🙏
...? are you sure those two are the type you said?
Leonard is isfj & Sheldon is istj. Both dont plan their lives & they have high memory. Shledon likes rules
It's funny because I am an INTP and my friend is an ISTP and my friend has the worst ability to detect social cue, they might as well not exist. Saying something inapropriate or not stopping after people start showing sign of disconfort is 100% him, and like I think almost 100% of those time I was with him I literally had to tell him to stop what he was doing. He also told me of plently of time where he got someone very angry or fustrated with information he kept asking them. It's like he has or he says he has a craving for information and has a complete lack of socially acceptable boundaries that one should I think and would probably have with a complete stranger asking you about your personal life for seemingly no reason. And if you ask him why he wants to know he'll just says I'm curious.
Growing up I never identified with the idea of being curious I have said multiple times that I tend to hate curious people, but during the last few years I've realized that I am a lot more curious about stuff than most people that I know at the very least, except for my friend the ISTP. But also while I am curious about theory and philosophie and abstract art. I also like to do devil advocate on controverial topic and I enjoy debate and arguing. My friend seem to just be interested in knowing useless things like who was present at someone party and gossip information. He will sometimes start discussion with me about a movie star and unleash this bank of information he gathered on a certain celebrity he took fancy at some point and knows just the insane amount of information about them and sometimes the most random shit about their life. And I don't know how much other INTP feel about gossip, small talk and rumors of celebrity. BUt I find that it the most boring shit that exist on planet Earth. I truly could not give a **** about any personal life of any actors or actresses. Then the discussion is just one way, while I wait for him to realize that he is and has been the only one talking about about half an hour or more, to realize I find no interest in what he is talking about and cannot find it in me to even try. and most of the time. I have to say it. Like almost everytime it happened and it still happens from time to time, look I don't have anything to say about that, I don't care.
I also found I was a lot better at reading people than my INTJ friend. And have been systematically able to predict his behavior and critic some of his action and motive before he did some things and I found it funny because he argues that I am wrong and then prooves me right a few days later. I don't why but after I start talking to people and knowing them, I find people to be extremely predictable. I've never known someone I could not predict how they would react to scenario. After spending a lot of time with them that behind said. Not saying I am able to predict stranger or acquintainces.
Your T-shirt is genius!
Thank you! I'll let my ISFJ brother know that you said that since he got it for me 😁
They are our real partner in crime lol. My intp buddy knows my dark side. The greedy, selfish, evil side of me and he just lol at it.
I bet you're just being vocal on the things your INTP is afraid to say out loud due to Fe 😉
@@justcallmejon22 we have been gaming partner since 2015. We both love finding loopholes and abuseable mechanisms in a game.
Difference is I do it to benefit me or make our team win. He does it for the sake of knowing of it lol. And he is always down with any evil plans I have when I'm in trolly mood. No matter how weird it is. He is smarter than me in terms of finding loopholes, but I'm just better to use to use the loopholes to benefit me n our group.
So his role is to inform me what are the bugs and loopholes. My role is selecting which one of those we can use, how to use it and what for. One time a game developer begged us not to play because other players were complaining lol.
And I love how you mention the Se part lol. Ya dude can ask tons of questions even after people has left the chat group lol. Or pissed off entire gaming community due his endless questions coz he won't stop asking until he finds answers that make sense. I had to bail him out over n over with my charm or negotiation skill. I thought his personality was just like me but had asperger before I learned about mbti. Turned out he doesn't have asperger. He is just INTP. N yeah we took test together.
Oh n yeah maybe. I think he really really really care about me n just never wants me get up set so he tends to agree unless it matters a lot to him. Then he starts stomping his foot and ranting at me. But i alwats the calm one once i have pissed him off
@@justcallmejon22 sorry my english suck when I get too excited. This is my favorite video uk.
started talking to an intj online, he luckily made sure to state he was interested in my rambling so i ramble like a bitch, feels nice. Although the Leonard sheldon example has been proven to work in an opposite way in that conversation so far : me letting my mind wander and him consciously making the effort to check out how anything he shares is portrayed (might be over compensation from havig it blown to his face earlier though)
i think i just realised why i attract so many programmers despite not being particularly interested in IT, i guess i just have a way of thinking that is highly valued in the trade and people who choose it as a job, portray certain behaviours i their daily lives i just gravitate towards i guess
Congrats on finding your own INTJ! We really do enjoy listening to people talk, sometimes even about what seems like nonsense. Ni is difficult to explain so INTJs tend to try to frame our conversations a certain way so that people understand the point because it really can sound confusing if we don't. Please take care of my fellow INTJ and keep talking about whatever that's on your mind. Listening to a person we care about talk feels like ASMR sometimes 😁
The frustrating thing about being an INTP is that Ne is our most employable trait but it's secondary. Nobody pays for Ti alone unless it's strongly coupled with some Ne activity. There isn't really a career that fits too well. Software dev is the best but we're up against the INTJ rock stars all the time.
An INTJ is great at building new software. INTP is better at reverse engineering and modifying/extending some existing thing bit by bit. Sorry, I know that's nothing to do with love.
Hey man, you're looking at this from the wrong prespective. You're focusing on the superpower of the INTJ whereas downplaying your own. Advancement in coporate is not by what you accomplish but by people liking you. INTPs are more liked in the work force than INTJs so once you develop a system to finish tasks quicker/on time, you're miles ahead of the INTJ.
@@justcallmejon22 🤟👍💪💡💡💡This is true!
I'm an Intp and I have an Intj grandmother whom has been really close to me all my life. I love having knowledgeable conversations with her. 😊
Your grandma sounds like a great person 🙂
I think the INTP is more likely to approach first. I tend to be the one to approach people I like. I feel awkward as shit about it, but I will approach someone if I decide I like them and they're not out of my league
When you say approach, do you mean after the relationship has already been built?
As an INTP I am suprised how you managed to be more etreme than us(less sociabil smarter even tho that is said only bc of Ni byas bc iq is 80% based on patern reconition aka Ni while it's 10 or even lower based on locic and knowledge even tho it's arguebly even more important in this type of smartness) and your planning skiils could come handy for us sometimes(and also i heard you hate changes very much while we don't really hate them and i heard than ENTP actually love them)
I think both the INTx's are socially awkward until we start making it a priority and yup, being spontaneous is not our strengths 🙃
I dont have many INTPs close around my circle. But I find them a "good resource". Low maintenance with great returns. They can be quirky but very reliable when the situation fits them.
Edit: "such a low maintenance relationship". LMAO. I just said that.
It's so funny how often other INTJs comment exactly what I'm thinking in my head as well 😂
As an INTP I enjoy my INTJ friend but I've always been attracted to ENFPs/ENFJs. And sometimes even INFJs. But usually extraverts help balance me out and I help balance them out.
I'm all for whatever type works best for you 🙂
No! No! No!
Sheldon isn't an INTJ, nor Leonard an INTP. (They're both ISTJ & ISFJ respectively.)
With that new info, go watch the series and notice how obvious it is.
I used to think they were as you implied too.
I specifically said it wasn't their correct type in the video 😂
@@justcallmejon22 😅yes, I know you didn't say that that is their type.
I was only making a case for why even that analogy is "dangerous"; in the sense that someone out there would run with it and it could corrupt their intuitions and mess up their base models of INTJs.
@@bimri Gotcha. I see your point now ✊
I I've never had an INTP in my life and I've wanted to know what that duo would be like. My brother (says) he's an ENTP but when my dad and I are "busting apple bags" he gets REALLY REALLY butt hurt! This is why I'm almost sure he's mistyped and more likely an ESTJ as they can't seem to grasp when someone is joking and when they are being serious because true ENTP's will appreciate a good burn...
I need to put out an ad: INTJ looking to find an INTP to see what the hype is all about...Anyone know what INTP's "catnip" is??? LOL
Yeah, I got lucky to have met my INTP early in life due to my ESFJ friend being so extroverted. Throw out Ni dude, Ti/Ne are both cognitive functions that loves Ni. I usually throw out a little of it when I meet a new group to see who takes the bait and it's usually Ne users 😂
@@justcallmejon22 Hmmm I'll have to throw out some Ni catnip and see if I can catch me a new INTP. Who knows if I get lucky he won't be intimidated by a female INTJ and things could work out at a romantic level lol.
@@irienerd8178 I assure you that INTJs are only scary to certain types, INTPs not being one of them 😆
@FamTheEvilCat LOL yes catnip >>>this way...
@FamTheEvilCat 😂 nah I don't set traps on potential friends lol, treats yes traps no lol. Trust me lol.
😂The fact that I am interested but I am not interested in studying I just think it does not interest me I am interested in everything except studying
Those birds are in my breau at the wall..amazingly hilarious..😁😆🤩🤭😏😄
Bureau...sorry..😉
I'm an INTJ, so I probably dont have to say, but I've been "unlucky in love" all my life. I've been saying recently, I just need someone to help me THINK! I know INTPs exist, & I believe I've spoken to many 😅😅, but I feel inadequate somehow to approach them about any romantic possibilities. Like, maybe I don't deserve them 😔😔. Or the house would be too quiet 😮.
😂
You have Te, if you're not the one to make the first move, ya'll aint getting together 😂
@@justcallmejon22 see.... there you go again! Why do INTJs do all the work around here? 😄😅
I want to meet an INTP
I'm sure they feel the same way about you as well 🙂
Mind mate is such a cute description -Enfp
ENFPs are as well a lot of the times 😀
So, basically I should always have an INTP on call, when I need more brain computing power, because I’m either too lazy, busy or annoyed to do it myself? That’s brilliant 👍🏻 Will do.
Just have them as friends, they're one of the best people alive!
I am an INTP and appreciated your Thank You 😊
You guys are the best INTP ✊
INTP (me) versus INTJ at work. INTJ is my eternal nemesis.
INTJ software dev: 10 Jira tickets in TODO. One month to deadline. Tickets smoothly glide across the columns. In Progress. Testing. Done. Timesheet app fills up with carefully timed entries. 26 mins on this ticket. 34 on another. 3h 49m on a third. After 4 weeks, all tickets in Done.
INTP software dev: 10 Jira tickets in TODO. One month to deadline. Four weeks of nervous project manager asking for "status updates" as the tickets remain stuck in TODO or jump mysteriously between In Progress and TODO. Day before deadline, all tickets in Testing. Tester freaks out but all tests pass. Dev looks at empty timesheet app and tries to figure out how to apportion fictional time chunks to everything in a way that matches the client's expectations.
Whenever I am on a team and an INTJ comes along, I know my days are numbered. It's not that they can do things better than me ... but they don't give PMs sleepless nights and heart attacks.
You'd be surprised to hear that most of the time, we've been finished with the tickets for a few days but don't update JIRA so that we can have a few days to relax 😅
Would you consider making a video explaining Ni in details, like the way you explain Fi? (love that video btw) As an INTJ, sometimes I wonder if I am actually INTP. While I enjoy looking at the big picture, or predicting the future (Ni), if you ask me why the overall trend should be the way I predict/plan, I could draw from my knowledge and (at least attempt to) give a satisfying logical explanation, which sounds like Ti to me. Saying something should be in certain way based on gut feeling (Ni?), without at least providing a good reasoning sounds like terrible opinion to me. I also love being as logical and objective as possible, whicj sounds like typical INTP. I honestly can't tell if i am INTJ or INTP now 😶
Always happy to see a person taking their journey of self-discovery seriously! I just want to make sure that you don't fall into the trap that MBTI is a tool for self-discovery and not your identity. I haven't made my Fi video yet but I'll link two video of mine that might help. The first video is goes over how Ni affects the INxJs and the second video is a casual conversation I had with my INTP buddy. Check them out!
Ni Video: th-cam.com/video/LNWBEqbvTPo/w-d-xo.html
INTJ/INTP Conversation: th-cam.com/video/h7BOJrV5_8c/w-d-xo.html
@@justcallmejon22 I must be thinking about your video on Te not Fi, sorry about that! Thanks for your guide though, I will definitely check them💕 really impressed by how you reply each of the comment thoughtfully 👍
INTPs may enjoy trying to predict the future here and there, but in general, I don't think we feel like having a sense of what's going to happen before it does takes away the surprise factor that makes things feel new or spontaneous.
For example, I don't like it when someone tries to figure out the ending of a movie outloud.
"He's probably gonna die in the end", etc.
High Ne people no like this.
It seems to me that the "great capability to analyze large amounts of information" that people attribute to INTPs comes from their relatively equal ability to pay attention and see both the details and the big picture. At the same time. I would always get confused when tests asked if i I'm "detail-oriented" or "big picture person". It was hard to me to get how you can be one but not the other. Details make the big picture, they're basically the same thing just in different perspectives. I see my mind map as a system of systems (a system within a system within a system etc) and can easily zoom in on details and zoom out on bigger picture.
You say you "enjoy predicting future", but ain't it something an Ni dom does unwillingly and compulsively? I quite like building logical connections but it's pretty much a huge compulsion to me - sometimes tiring even. Not something I can stop doing.
As an ENTP I am pretty sure we identify as the clowns.. not the nerds..
Yeah but ya'll are still nerdy as hell 😅
@@justcallmejon22 nerdy clowns.. we still rock..
Dear Uncle Jon
Latest @FrankJames and @psychologyrefresh make a trophy for INTJ who most dangerous 16 Personality MBTI . Would be fun waiting Uncle Jon perspective vision 😁😁😁 . Why we INTJ its so Dangerous 😁
We're definitely dangerous but is that something we want people to know?! Can you also please link the videos so I have reference? Thank you INTJ brotha 🙏
@@justcallmejon22 sure 😁
th-cam.com/video/qevm7-1UPiI/w-d-xo.html
And this one
th-cam.com/video/BOlc5CZ7G9U/w-d-xo.html
I'm an intj, wanna be friends?,
Is this an open request to INTPs?!
As an INTJ I totally agree with your view
🙏 thank you
Usually INTJs think INTPs are dumb. As INTPs are slow thinker, focusing too much on details, and lazy of course.
Not sure where this comment is coming from but I understand what you're trying to say and dumb isn't the right word. Dumb has to do with intelligence and that's the superpower of an INTP. I refuse to enter a battle of knowledge of a topic against a Ti dom if we're both equally as invested in the topic because we'll be approaching it from two different angles 😂
Lol troll
Oh, they did?
Great video! INFJs next?
Not next but soon 😁
I'm an infp who wants an intj man but the way you love intps make me lose hope 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm going to be honest, I have no idea how you arrived to that conclusion from this video 🙃
@@justcallmejon22 from this video 😭😭
N the comments section 🤣
Jk
please please please do one for intjs and infjs 😊😊😊
That video is coming, INFJs are just a bit harder to describe since we're so similar 😅
My ex was an intp, tho she was a bit unhealthy and got mad at me for making her feel insecure about her intelligence when I explained certain concepts to her?
Now that the relationship is over, could you have explained thing differently? We can't tell others how to feel but we can change how we do things.
It is true, we (at least I do) have that tendency.. when someone obviously knows more about a topic than us, when we were the ones talking about it especially.. it kind of hurts our ego.. but I push the feeling away because I know no harm or condescension was meant by it.
@@justcallmejon22 She was a ESFJ they are Ti inferior they are afraid of being considered stupid while INTPs are afraid of being considered bad people with FE inferior.. If you harass the inferior function of each type you will see their demonic part.
The subconscious of ESFJs is intp while that of INTPs is esfj ergo ESFJ are happy when they feel smart and their logic works while intps are happy when they help others.
As a female INTP, we get sick and tired of hearing a long winded explanations of something we're aware of. Could have been that you didnt get to the point quick or directly enough. We want to hear the problem, not the lecture.
Its like.... say if Im coloring outside the lines of a picture too much because Im coloring too swiftly. Often times, instead of someone just cutting to the chase and saying "Hey, you seem to be overzealous because some of your coloring went outside the lines." I usually recieve a brief lesson on how to color. I know how to color. Whats the problem and point youre trying to make?
Or if we're salty
What's the point in this argument you're trying to make so I can focus on reasoning why or why not its making any sense to me.
Idk how you interacted with her exactly but I've heard this lament before about INTPs like me and I've reached my limits at this point with those kinds of interactions. It fills my head with too much annoyance and frustration trying to listen to someone explaining information I already know and then I start losing attention and just fall into mostly emotional responses. Its annoying but that's what I've realized about how my mind works in dialogues. Trying to make fixes, you see.
You are allowed how you think but the following is what I see as reality. You need to get off the net and learn how to socialize and understand, be comfortable with rejection.
I know my friend did mb whatever bs zodiac in medschool and I still ask them after seeing them go into residency, you still believe in the zodiac? I did the test over 3-4 times? I got (I unno?) intj. Just looking at it face value, intj are easily triggered kinda reminding me someone with borderline personality disorder. I would never brag to anyone about my love life, the only thing intj has right about ne is my privacy and I’m self assured. In my case, I call it self sufficient.
I like to observe who I date and that means many hang out where (MBTI has zero evidence on humanity) does not mean it doesn’t open my opinion some people choose to communicate this way. But, I look for compatibility. What’s our conflict resolution? What are our boundaries? Are we both open to therapy? How do we bond? Children?
What I see people who complain identify themselves using mb(who cares) they lack identify in focus and also have trauma in their lives. Not easy to tackle abandonment issues and unhealthy attachment if you believe using a “online dictionary” will help you regulate emotions.
What's there to disagree about? I completely understand your sentiment and have no urge to try to convince you otherwise. If you're happy with life and how it's moving, then I support whatever you're doing my friend ✊
You seem unreasonable of a person.
Kinda wish I didn't like an intp and we became better friends. Idk cuz like ya idk
I feel you ✊
@@justcallmejon22 INTJS you people are SE users its your job take the first step I know you are low in SE but you shold grow out of your fear bc intps generally with their SI child LOVES the se inferior of intjs. Intps usualy they never take the first step bc they are afraid to not be wanted and this is why the SE users need to make them feel wanted for be in a relatioship.
@@justcallmejon22 AH this works for both of you so for both genders if you tell them how good they are or what good people they are their heart will skip a bit. (obviously in an appropriate context)
Intps represent😂
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Can you do infp intj for next time ? Thanks
That's the next video 🙂
@@justcallmejon22 great ! Thank you
Ive found that when i (intp)meet an intj we gel like nothing else, but when we disagree....
Boy🤦🏿♂️
As long as feelings don't creep up in the disagreements, ya'll will be okay 😅
Lolol oh yeah??
No, u!
I fucking don't
More INTPs for the rest of us 😁
WHAT!!!!! INTPs are not low maintenance. They ignoring sensory or not paying attention makes them the most high maintenance of all types. Se inferiors have to pick up the sensory slack because although it frustrates us we can’t ignore it like INTPs can. You want to a live a life where you are supported emotionally and in the physical world? Stay away from an INTP. DEFINITELY don’t own physical assets or responsibility with them unless you want to chained to them (e.g., house, kids, pets, etc). You will drown with an INTP.
It sounds like you had a negative experienc with an INTP and I hope you're not too jaded to give another INTP a change. I'm not sure how it feels to be in a relationship with one but it's a low maintenance friendship. The funny thing is that my INTP described it using the exact same word before I showed him this video 😂
@@justcallmejon22 He sounds like a ESFP mistype like an INTJ
I mean my first friend is INTP , and we are friends even before take the test 😂
So that's why we connect well, I'm much older by 4 years. But i don't really care about who's older bla bla bla, he's cool I'm cool.
He's really always try challenging , his intelligence with me with Chess ♟️, sadly I'm not into in chess so i can't beat him.😅
And i like discussing things about scientific ideas but he's not really interested in science. But we still usually talk about the system or just discussing what happened around us.
Sadly I can't contact him anymore since he's been studying abroad for years now
There's barely any resistance towards friendship when an INTP & INTJ meet. Somehow we learn to respect each other once we get into our dom function and it's refreshing to hear another person who uses logic as much as we do. Email your buddy if you can, I'm sure he'll appreciate hearing from you. ✊
I hope both of you will be in contact /get in touch in the future, when the situation for both parties are much better 🚀