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Why is it that no one ever talks about Julbo? For me they are a mix of Vuarnet and Oakley, not very expensive, and I own a few pairs that are decent quality
So for those of you confused about the Tom Ford joke.. Years ago he reviewed a pair and the said the quality was pretty good but not worth the crazy high price tag. etc well the company got really made and said there was some missinformation in the video.... which i guess there was he said something wrong about them by accident.. anways they sued him for like slander and they setled out of court and and he had to remove the review and not review T F again... so thats why he said noting and just put it in the trash lol because now he HATES HIM even tho they are decent sunglasses... sorry for spelling errors my english is not great!
For me Persol definitely belongs into S for their quality, heritage and style. Their collaboration with D&G is a smaller mistake in my opinion, compared to RBs decreased quality. If RB were still producing in NA and maintaining their former quality level, then they of course should be in S. But in their current state I put them into B.
I would bump Serengeti and Randolph to S tier. I love their lenses, tech, and frame quality. Maui Jim would probably be in the A category - I absolutely agree with your take on them, but for me the lenses are SO good I’d have to put them there. Persol would drop off the fence into A tier. Mainly because I have trouble finding a pair that look good on me. Not their fault really, but there we are. Gucci and Bespoke would probably drop down to D. And I’d probably bump Costa to C. I agree on the frames not really interesting me, but they do have some nice glass lenses and serve a certain niche well. DITA AND both “Leights” I have no experience with.
I love Serengetis just bought my third pair. The first pair I bought in he 80s, and my sister swiped them, the so-and-so. Then I bought another pair 4 years ago. When they went missing for several months,I thought I'd go mad. But yesterday I found them perfectly unscathed. Happy surprise! One thing I learned though is, for me, superior optics are very important. So today I got a "just in case" pair!
Agree with a few comments here. MJ in A tier would be fair. The only thing stopping them from being in S is that a lot of their frame designs look outdated. But stunning lenses. And you are absolutely right about Persol and D&G Collab. Persol are known for their sophistication. D&G are a loud, designer brand. The outcome is just HIDEOUS!!! Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Was quite a pleasent change.👍👍👍
I would definitely bump up MJ to A, Serengeti to S and Costa to B. Ray-Ban would be an A and Oakley a C. I lean towards performance and quality though. And even though Oakley's quality is not the best, their lenses are really good sports lenses. Designers sunglasses should all be at the bottom. Revo would be on top of Oakley if it was there, perhaps alongside Smith.
At the moment Persol is untouchable for me. The aesthetics and the quality of the frames is just out of this world, not to mention they have great heritage. The D&G collab is absolute trash tho, i can easily agree. MJ would be an A tier for me, having a pair of Kawikas I can easily say that those polarised lenses are on another level, tho it was a hard time finding an MJ where I actually liked the looks (and I still think that a classic Clubmaster looks better than the Kawika, however I really wanted to try MJ lenses). I would definitely want to try an Oliver Peoples in the future, and I am also hooked for Moscot, but I was terribly surprised that they are MiC considering the price tag. TBD Pleat is also on my wishlist, however there are probably better options for the price.
Hi Shade Review. Here is my initial Reaction (without thought). If RB's history puts it in the top tier then why isn't AO along side, especially with the new owners and higher build quality? I know AO Eyewear was slumping until the new owners, but I think the China component of RB is a factor. Also, I like the new acetate styles of Serengeti. I agree with the Persol positioning and the brands in the a, c, d and e catagories...Nice video... I'll re-review and let you know, after some thought if I changed my mind.🙂. Again, thanks for the great content.
So AO has an amazing history was well! But they never did 1/4 of the innovation that Ray Ban probably created 90% of all the frame styles that are still warn today! And then with lens tech as well Chromax, Diamond Hard, Ambermatic etc!
Okay. I understand. Question: I agree with your opinion about Persol copying Ray Ban. Is that a Persol call or a Luxotica call? Same question for all of the so called collaborations.
What is the difference between Gucci frames (for example web GG0341s) and (plain GG1135s) Is there a difference in quality or is it just personal preference. Thanks.
Great review! Agree with your Ray-Ban perspective. I just got two pair, one the 2035 made in Italy with glass lens G15 and a 2635 polycarbonate lens made in China. I was surprised at how much better the Italian version with glass lenses was...and that the clarity was noticeably better. Ray-Ban made in Italy with glass or the highest end made in Japan is the way to go!
To be honest, I would put ray ban on b tier just cuz yes they have that heritage but the ray ban of the past is not what it is today and if not for the history, it would be trash. That being said, I would put maui jim in a tier just cuz of how amazing the lenses are. At one point when I put on my mj and saw a red car and thought how beautiful the color red on that car was and how it stood out. Turns out it was the lenses that made it that beautiful and when I took off the glasses, it was just a regular red car. Another time when I casually lended my mom my mj recently and was shocked how beautiful the red trees where and I had to constantly remind her that its the glasses that give it that bright red and contrast.
This is the tier list I would agree with the most. I have a few smaller complaints, but this is generally a VERY good one. I would absolutely agree with Maui's frames always falling off my face. If I was to buy solely on frame fitting, I would have to go with Luxottica's non-fashion offerings (and even their fashion offerings fit pretty well with minimal adjustment). My personal dream would be an Italian Luxottica frame with Maui lenses. I have a similar complaint about my vintage American Opticals. I do think that Ray-Ban should be separated into three eras: Bausch Ray-Bans, Italian Luxotticas, and Chinese Luxotticas. I think that Chinese Ray-Bans would probably land in D Tier with only their frame fitting qualities keeping them out of E, if even. I love my Italian Ray-Bans (RB 3675 to be precise), and they're probably my favorite Luxottica offerings without breaking into Persol and Oliver Peoples territory, and neither have appealing Aviator offerings to me as of writing, though I would not be surprised if this ends up changing. I'm personally looking at getting my hands on a pair of Serengetis and Ditas, but I think I need to keep my eyes on Olivers just in case I find something interesting. Maybach's are a bit of a long term goal for me. The only real fashion brand I want to get my hands on is Chanel since its a bit of a family tradition on my end to go with Coco's company, but most fashion brands are for aesthetics only.
I would put Maui Jim in A for their exceptional lens and above average frames. Only reason I wouldn't put them in S is because their designs are underwhelming. Ray-Ban does deserve credit for their heritage and contributions to the industry but in terms of quality it could be better so I would put them in B, or A if you value the iconic styling and design.
SMITH is another brand. They make some pretty decent products. Their chromopop lens tech is fantastic. Frames are well constructed and durable. I've got a pair of Guides Choice with low-light yellow lenses. Meant for fishing, but great for cloudy days.
I own three pairs of Smith's...loooove their optics. Don't love the frame that comes with the chromopop lenses. They feel cheap, but the Chromopop lenses makes up for it. The other frames are okay.
Amazing video but for the quality and material of Maui Jim I would place it on the S tier the rest I agree even loving Oakley's but quality and lenses are not what is used to be! Amazing content Shade Review!
I disagree with the Costa ranking because while a lot of the styles they offer are unflattering they still do offer great, classic looking styles like the Paunch or some of the "Costa Untangled" Glasses. In my opinion at least.
@@ShadeReviewyou should do another ranking video now..:) of course everybody will have different opinion about where they should belong but I think your decisions are spot on.
MJ and RE should be in S. MJ has superb lens quality for multiple purposes (fishing, hiking, hunting, leisure, etc) and various frame styles. RE - not as many frames as others but damn great quality as well, like they said, it’s worth an investment due to the superb quality. RB - regardless of history (AO has wow factor history as well), the fact China has hands on it just kills it. Shouldn’t have been on the S category. At best an A, at least a B. But like you said at the end, it’s your opinion. Great video though.
I still have my Serengetis that I bought in the 80s. They cost me a ton back then, but they're still going strong today, and even look better on me now, than they did back then. Rayban is still my second favorite, because they are timeless classics.
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O MAN O MAN, you are my go to person when it comes to sunglasses. But you placing RAY BAN on that level now just changes the game. You should have made a special category for brands that have influenced the industry, known for trends but not the best for over quality…..
I recently bought a pair of maui jims to replace my old serengetis, and had to return them because the lenses had noticably less clarity than the serengetis. I wouldnt put those two brands together as being equivalent
Persol is Definitely S tier. They're really unmatched with style, quality and materials. 1. Persol, Ray-Ban (tie) even though persol crushes them in quality. 2. Oliver peoples. That's all I need 🤷🏻♂️
As a whole, Persol is better quality than Ray-Ban, because they dont have a lower tier line with cheaper made frames etc. But Ray-Ban's do have some made in italy glasses are that equal. They are all made by luxottica after all
I think a lot of weight in this ranking was given to style, and in particular the style you liked. It would be good to have some weight for lens quality, frame quality, value (quality/price ratio), etc.
Hey bud great videos I appreciate all the time you have taken to give us this information. I like the Ray Ban Wayfarer, could you suggest a pair of sunglasses like those with Black Lenses thanks for the help.
Fair points, buy what you like is the general rule of thumb for me. Persols just suit my face and for hand made in Italy glasses for 200 ish euros/dollars/ pounds I think you get good bang for buck. I really should shell out the extra for the polarized lenses next time.
Hey do you have any opinions on Celine sunglasses. They have some very classic frames that are aesthetically nice but don’t know much about the quality of the lenses or acetate they use
They are not bad, but they are not at the same level as the persols. They are overpriced a bit because of high fashion brand, but insanely overpriced as the Cartier frames :)) for the look, you can of course buy Celine glasses but know that you can buy higher quality sunglasses for less if they are not a fashion brand.
From a functional perspective Maui Jim’s are top tier, love their non slip nose pads and high quality lens. And I agree that their lens tend to be oversized, but that’s so they offer more protection. So function over form. I have a larger sized head so think they look fine. Overall I’d agree though that from a style perspective they are not top tier. I love Persols but if I wear my Steve Macqueens for any length of time they start slipping down my nose which is annoying. If they had Maui Jim nose pads they’d be unstoppable!
Ray Bans above Maui jim and Serengeti? I mean 30 years ago RBs were good but now not even close to MJ and Serengeti quality on lenses or frames and Rbs are owned by luxottica which mass produce mostly junk at high prices.
This video gets TWO THUMBS down!!! You are being too hard on Persol when it's hand made in Italy. High quality sunglasses!!! Who cares about the fact that they copy a lot of Ray Ban styles... when they do it better!!! Ray Ban lower the quality of their sunglasses by having it made in China... should AUTOMATIC move them down to A tier. Persol deserves to be in S Tier for the quality. If you held Persol Wayfarer against Ray Ban wayfarer in your hands, you would automatic notice the better quality in Persol against cheap made Ray Ban!!!
Thought your rankings were all well-reasoned and I especially like your factoring in of history and heritage which doesn't always get considered. Only surprise for me was ranking Serengeti a 'B' given how much you loved their Wayne model (Which I have on order btw)...My best regards to you.
So Serengeti I hasn’t been extremely revenant for the past 10 years or so.. It’s just now recently (past 3 years) that they have really started to change the game! And that’s awesome I know you will enjoy the Wayne!
wonder what's up with Tom Ford .. i laughed so much when you throw it in the trash. Never owned one, and other glasses reviewers said they are sh*t as well. Are they "THAT" bad?
No they are not that bad. I have 6 or 7 Tom Ford sunglasses and their quality are ok. But not at the same level as the ones in b-a-s category. Their glasses are not that good and frames for what I heard, have many problems. I didn’t have any issues yet but I’m not using them all the time..:) I think they should be in the c or d category. Maui Jim, Serengeti, Randolph engineering, Persol, Oliver peoples have much better glasses.
Fun video! I mostly agree with your ratings but not with Ray-Ban being S and not Persol. Basically, I think both should be in the same tier by similar arguments. Both were S in the past and now they're somewhat worse. So by the same argument Persol is not S, then Ray-Ban should not be S as well. I also hate the Persol+D&G collab but I think Ray-Ban does similarly cheap stuff (e.g. Made in China). If anything, I would say Ray-Ban is A and Persol is almost-S. Strictly speaking I think Oliver Peoples is the only one that deserves S from this list. Second, I would love know to more about what happened with Tom Ford lol. Can you talk about it? You mentioned in the video so maybe you can say something about what happened,. Finally, some brands that would be nice to include and that you should definitely review: Carrera, Barton Perreira, L.G.R, Matsuda, Jacques Marie Mage. There's some S tier potential here.
Are the Getty II S sunglasses made by Mr. Leight or Garrett Leight? Because both websites seem to sell them, and Mr. Leight actually has a link to GL for the sunglasses as well. A little confusing!
I wouldn’t put Jacques Marie mage glasses to S tear, next to the Oliver peoples because of their insane prices. JMM only uses all glass lenses in their high end models and their prices are well over the thousand dollars. Their acetates are similar to Oliver peoples’s Japan made or special collaboration models I think. Oliver peoples frames are just simple and classy, JMM frames are on the other hand they have much more presence, not everyone’s taste. Yes they are great sunglasses but I think no other brands come closer to Oliver peoples for price and quality.. Oliver peoples would be on top of my list for sure.
Has anyone had issues with their Vaurnet frames peeling and cracking? I picked up some legend 03 but sent them back after reading some negative reviews over the peeling issue and the arms breaking easily.
I believe persol and oliverpeoples are the best when it comes to quality,price/value it edges to persol..plus i dm tbd and they said in 2023 they realesse glass lenses
I really enjoyed your list, it made me realise that apart from Persol & Vintage RB`s i don`t own any others on the list . Ray ban would be an S if they were still owned by B&L , that is where the legacy was made & they became iconic. The history has nothing to do with Luxottiga, they have no interest other than to buy the history & rinse the brand for all it`s worth ,they have destroyed RB IMHO. Persol is one of my favourite brands but the D&G nonsense has the smell of Luxottiga all over it & how long before we see Persol being made in China ?. I have been getting as far away as possible from Luxottiga & searching out independents & vintage . The Renauld Sixty One is on my wish list .
You have missed a big one. CARTIER. Using thick precious metal plating, elegant designs, nothing compares. I would rather spend 1000 on something that costed 200 bucks to make than spend 500 on something that costed 5 dollars to make.
Cartier has a big name and that’s it. Kering produces their glasses and their quality is not that great. Ok they are not bad and they are not great. There are many other companies that uses thick plating, thicker than the Cartier and their prices are way lower because they are not as good known as the Cartier. I only have one Cartier sunglasses and I would never buy again. Just too much money for its worth.
Love your take and agree with most of your rankings. But would you agree that Garett Leight has some very nicely built frames even if they re MIC? also which brand do u think makes the highest quality acetate?
I've ever own a Garrett Leight Hampton 10th anniversary edition, and I have to admit that even it's MIC but it's build quality & finishing is really good and also flawless detail
@@demporaya4852 Na dude I know that GLC are legit made in the same factory in china as other way cheepr brands they just charge doubble and call it preamum..
Best independent and high quality manufacturers out there: Etnia Barcelona Vuarnet Randolph Engineering Serengeti American Optical Maui Jim You’re welcome!
You're trying to tell me Persol copies Ray Ban? Nobody ever missed Ray Ban, they only gained actual popularity in the early 70s, and they were cheap AF. Then Luxottica pulled them from shelves after purchase and put them back up a few years later as part of a marketing stunt (people want things they can't have). Persol has been kicking since the Treaty of Versailles, hand-making all their models. There's only so many ways you can make a classic, reserved pair of sunglasses, and if there's any resemblance between models, priority will always go to Persol for the sole fact they're an older, more respectable brand than the cheapened outsourced Ray-Ban. Persol easily in S, Ray Ban down to B
Luxottica who owns Oakley has their own hundred thousand square-foot plant in China. So Ray bands, Oakley, Prada, and many more are made in the same plant in China
While I am not an expert on materials, etc. when it comes to sunglasses, I would say that Oakley deserves a higher ranking for its sports performance glasses. Your list seems to be based on the more leisure ware glasses, but no other brand performs like Oakley in sports performance.
If bespoke makes great quality frames but don't have many color and polarization options plus not glass lenses, wouldn't you throw Moscot over them? Seems like Moscot has great quality acetate and then they check the other boxes you said bespoke didn't, just curious 🤷♂️.
Excellent video, and awesome ranking, although I would put OP in a class on their own. Loved the brief appearance of TF, was like ‘huh??’ and then lol’d. Good move. I really want to like Moscot (esp the Lemtosh) but really struggle with the price coupled with MiC, so can’t see that I’ll take the plunge tbh, at least not when there are OP styles that are still on my list.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it! If you are looking for the beautiful Lemtosh style for way less check out Old Focals J.S. The rumor in the sunglass business is they are made at the same company that Moscot used to make them in China but the are only $169 for the frames and then you can have That Glasses Guy install custom lenses in them! 😎
@@ShadeReview yes I got it, I'm talking about quality in a subjective point of view, but then is your personal list so everyone has their preferences haha, great video I don't miss any of them!
The problems with “the best lens” is that people’s eyes are different. Sure there are some specifications that might be beneficial but at the end of the day, it is a personal choice.
From the standpoint of build quality, I think the best metal frames are made by Leisure Society. The Lewitt, Coronado, Clairaut are exceptionally well-made. There is nothing even close from other companies. If we talk about acetate frames, the best ones are made by Jacques Marie Mage. Such frames as the Jacques Marie Mage Laramie are incredible in terms of build quality. Design-wise I prefer Mr. Leight sunglasses. The Doheny, Ichi S, Griffith S are beautiful. Basically, many Mr. Leight sunglasses are very similar to Oliver Peoples, but a little bit better made and sophisticated looking. History? I couldn't care less about such things. You don't wear "history", you wear a certain pair of sunglasses made from certain materials and looking a certain way.
It is hard ranking sunglasses because different brands have different purposes and some could be at the top of their intended category, but at the bottom if judged by a category where others excell. Perhaps it's easier to establish categories like performance, styling, quality , desirability, etc. and then rank them. Or sports, lifestyle and fashion.
Ya I totally agree with you! That’s why I said this video was just for fun and not to be taken to seriously! Thanks for watching and the comments inglando!
Good input here. I wonder if a video about eye-wear peripherals would be interesting. I'm looking for quality carrying cases at the moment. I've got several pairs of sunglasses that came with crummy cases (cough... Maui Jim)
@@ShadeReviewbought two pairs of Compass from Jomashop. Rose and bronze. Only rose came with the bamboo case and cover So far, Oliver peoples are my best cases
I definitely don't agree with your list but it's not my list so. Ray-Ban for one is the Bose of the sunglass world total junk. I tend to grade sunglasses more for their lenses because eye protection is the most important thing about sunglasses. My favorite brands in no specific order are Costa, Maui Jim, Serengeti, and two that you didn't even mention, Revo and Smith optics. I had some vaurnet in the late 80s and they were good at that time but today they are substandard in my opinion.
Agreed with your list only thing bump up is MJ to A and Oakley for B plus if I had to add another company as I'm from the UK & a big Mclaren F1 fan is Sungod which I Prob put between B & C cause though their 8KO lens are great just lack of frame choices
I think the A rating for Randolph is fair. I have four of their frames. I bought their special edition aviator in 24k with the blue lenses and tortoise bayonets. Wore them one time to the pool, and noticed they had some corrosion in one of the stems in the bayonet a few days later( or after the vacation), and I definitely cleaned them after the pool. Separately, I have their basic matte silver with gray lense and clear bayonet (the ones Todd wears in Christmas Vacation!, which I bought as a 'lifetime' last sunglass type style)- never exposed to any salt or pool, and they also are developing a noticeable corrosion inside the clear bayonet....I don't think I should have to pay $25 and $10 shipping, plus my time, for a frame refresh which I've done once already. I noticed that there is some production inconsistency with the factory bend on the earstem inside the bayonet..some hug the back head and some are straighter. For their prices, their quality needs to be perfect in my opinion. I think Oakley is at a C+ right now because they still have good legacy stuff mixed with their new lazy lifestyle designs, and I think they still do a good job with their futuristic sport frame designs. I just picked up their clear frame Holbrook XL with Blue Prism P lens at a half price discount right from the source, for the beach. They have the exact same quality as my original 1994 clear frame Frogskins that I still have, except Holbrook have a cam in the temple. That said, I don't think I could spend $200+ with no discount on a frame that used to cost about $50 (maybe $85 with polarized lenses) and were Made in USA. To my dismay, these Holbrooks are printed with Made in Brazil on one earstem, and have that USA Assembled emblem tag on the tip of the other. Never seen that before! If anyone can advise compatible lens replacements for the older acetate Holbrook LX, please do! The polarized film is coming off all on its own and I still really like the frame.
Dita is S tier you pay a lot, but the build quality is 2nd to none got in a 30 mph crash they fell off my face and only left 2 barely noticeable nicks I dropped my RAY BAN WAYFARER LITEFORCE from table height and shatterd the bottom right part of the frame. Imo B tier would be generous for rayban now
I like your videos. Nevertheless this time I have to disagree with you. Ray-Ban does not belong to "S" category. I understand your argument concerning history that you voice not for the first time, but Persol is an older company with not less colourful past. Secondly, while Persol has been handmade for over a century in the same Italian factory, Ray-ban these days is mass produced in China and the quality corresponds to that. Thirdly, you argument with copying doesn't stand as in this case all brands imitate Ray-Ban's Aviator, Clubmaster or Wayfarer etc. It's like stating that all companies copy Sony TV set's shape.
I totally understand why you rank the Ray Ban history so high but in my opinion, they completely crashed their legacy in the last couple years. I would also like to know, why you put Tom Ford in the trash, because I think they are fine in quality and a bit too pricy but they just drop s-tear-designs. It’s also interesting which labels you didn’t mention as in my opinion, Cazal, Cartier, Carrera, Matsuda and Porsche Design should find a way in such a ranking. But maybe that’s my European view on this. Very interesting video so far, and it’s also cool to listen to your opinion. Thank you for your channel 🙏
I only have two pairs of sunglasses both good one are saint Laurent other is Versace. I got them because my dad get $2000 for glasses a year from his job.
Since the upload I'd watch the vid over n over n largely agree with you except that I think if u gonna credit O.P for their titanium frames u most credit R.E for their real gold and silver finishings also,these are precious metals also and add some sophostication to the looks. THANKS for doing what u do,coz of u I came to know OP,RE,Persol etc .cheers .
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You gotta try Revo
@@matthouston8411 He has them for sale on his website lol
Why is it that no one ever talks about Julbo? For me they are a mix of Vuarnet and Oakley, not very expensive, and I own a few pairs that are decent quality
So for those of you confused about the Tom Ford joke..
Years ago he reviewed a pair and the said the quality was pretty good but not worth the crazy high price tag. etc well the company got really made and said there was some missinformation in the video.... which i guess there was he said something wrong about them by accident.. anways they sued him for like slander and they setled out of court and and he had to remove the review and not review T F again... so thats why he said noting and just put it in the trash lol because now he HATES HIM even tho they are decent sunglasses... sorry for spelling errors my english is not great!
Wow that’s crazy thanks for clarifying
New to sunglasses and love Tom Ford design, but wow that’s a piece of shit move… will probably check other brands
@@kylerodgers3608 Ya it was unreal!
@@sebastiandiego8539 Wow thats crazy
Randolph, Maui and Serengueti are A tier, just for the fact that they're not Luxottica. They also make great sunglasses.
There’s nothing wrong with Luxottica. You fell for the meme.
@@sybo59 They turn brands into garbage, no one wants to be caught with that crap on their face
Same thing here. I really like Persols, and they’re owned by Luxottica, i don’t see something bad about it, as long they provide quality.
Randolph Engineering is excellent! I live 15mins from the factory!
@@sybo59 yes there is lol their quality is way worse than Randolph and AO
For me Persol definitely belongs into S for their quality, heritage and style. Their collaboration with D&G is a smaller mistake in my opinion, compared to RBs decreased quality. If RB were still producing in NA and maintaining their former quality level, then they of course should be in S. But in their current state I put them into B.
I would bump Serengeti and Randolph to S tier. I love their lenses, tech, and frame quality. Maui Jim would probably be in the A category - I absolutely agree with your take on them, but for me the lenses are SO good I’d have to put them there. Persol would drop off the fence into A tier. Mainly because I have trouble finding a pair that look good on me. Not their fault really, but there we are.
Gucci and Bespoke would probably drop down to D. And I’d probably bump Costa to C. I agree on the frames not really interesting me, but they do have some nice glass lenses and serve a certain niche well.
DITA AND both “Leights” I have no experience with.
Very thought through list!
Thanks for your personal edits!
Really great to get your perspective!
Serengeti, Randolph and Persol are my favorites. Lens technology and build quality are superb.
Same they make the best sunglasses. I have cartier/persol/ray/dita and they don’t even come close to those two
I love Serengetis just bought my third pair. The first pair I bought in he 80s, and my sister swiped them, the so-and-so. Then I bought another pair 4 years ago. When they went missing for several months,I thought I'd go mad. But yesterday I found them perfectly unscathed. Happy surprise! One thing I learned though is, for me, superior optics are very important. So today I got a "just in case" pair!
Agree with a few comments here. MJ in A tier would be fair. The only thing stopping them from being in S is that a lot of their frame designs look outdated. But stunning lenses.
And you are absolutely right about Persol and D&G Collab. Persol are known for their sophistication. D&G are a loud, designer brand. The outcome is just HIDEOUS!!!
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Was quite a pleasent change.👍👍👍
Ya! I love Persol so much and this was just soo so bad haha
Check the Maui Jim's frames again, they do have modern styles as well. I have the Kanaha, very modern.
@@Sean71976 you couldn't pay me to wear those. If looking like Neo from the matrix is modern, then count me out.
I would definitely bump up MJ to A, Serengeti to S and Costa to B. Ray-Ban would be an A and Oakley a C. I lean towards performance and quality though. And even though Oakley's quality is not the best, their lenses are really good sports lenses. Designers sunglasses should all be at the bottom. Revo would be on top of Oakley if it was there, perhaps alongside Smith.
His list was very accurate specially when you compare to DITA who knocks them out
My last two pairs (Chromance & Boyfriend) of Ray-Ban were absolute garbage. I'm very surprised by this ranking.
I disagree with Oakley Ranking, but totally agree about Tom Ford. FTW!!
At the moment Persol is untouchable for me. The aesthetics and the quality of the frames is just out of this world, not to mention they have great heritage. The D&G collab is absolute trash tho, i can easily agree.
MJ would be an A tier for me, having a pair of Kawikas I can easily say that those polarised lenses are on another level, tho it was a hard time finding an MJ where I actually liked the looks (and I still think that a classic Clubmaster looks better than the Kawika, however I really wanted to try MJ lenses).
I would definitely want to try an Oliver Peoples in the future, and I am also hooked for Moscot, but I was terribly surprised that they are MiC considering the price tag. TBD Pleat is also on my wishlist, however there are probably better options for the price.
Thanks for sharing your personal edits and favorites!
What would you say Persol vs Oliver Peoples acetate frames?
Oliver peoples is better. Full stop,
Hi Shade Review. Here is my initial Reaction (without thought). If RB's history puts it in the top tier then why isn't AO along side, especially with the new owners and higher build quality? I know AO Eyewear was slumping until the new owners, but I think the China component of RB is a factor. Also, I like the new acetate styles of Serengeti. I agree with the Persol positioning and the brands in the a, c, d and e catagories...Nice video... I'll
re-review and let you know, after some thought if I changed my mind.🙂. Again, thanks for the great content.
So AO has an amazing history was well!
But they never did 1/4 of the innovation that Ray Ban probably created 90% of all the frame styles that are still warn today!
And then with lens tech as well Chromax, Diamond Hard, Ambermatic etc!
Okay. I understand. Question: I agree with your opinion about Persol copying Ray Ban. Is that a Persol call or a Luxotica call? Same question for all of the so called collaborations.
@@maryjudeszymanski767 not sure what you are trying to say?
Agree. The Ray Ban in S was for hos benefit. Make me question his opinion always.
@@amymac66
What is the difference between Gucci frames (for example web GG0341s) and (plain GG1135s) Is there a difference in quality or is it just personal preference. Thanks.
Great review! Agree with your Ray-Ban perspective. I just got two pair, one the 2035 made in Italy with glass lens G15 and a 2635 polycarbonate lens made in China. I was surprised at how much better the Italian version with glass lenses was...and that the clarity was noticeably better. Ray-Ban made in Italy with glass or the highest end made in Japan is the way to go!
To be honest, I would put ray ban on b tier just cuz yes they have that heritage but the ray ban of the past is not what it is today and if not for the history, it would be trash.
That being said, I would put maui jim in a tier just cuz of how amazing the lenses are.
At one point when I put on my mj and saw a red car and thought how beautiful the color red on that car was and how it stood out. Turns out it was the lenses that made it that beautiful and when I took off the glasses, it was just a regular red car.
Another time when I casually lended my mom my mj recently and was shocked how beautiful the red trees where and I had to constantly remind her that its the glasses that give it that bright red and contrast.
Me: Cries in Tom Ford sunglasses
Very interesting ranking , but i have a question , what do u think about carrera sunglasses? Thanks.
I'd put Carrera in the "C" category.
What do you think about Cartier, tom brown, yves Saint Laurent and Mikita sunglasses
Get u some "buffies!" Dog! Youd be the coolest mf on the blocc
This is the tier list I would agree with the most. I have a few smaller complaints, but this is generally a VERY good one.
I would absolutely agree with Maui's frames always falling off my face. If I was to buy solely on frame fitting, I would have to go with Luxottica's non-fashion offerings (and even their fashion offerings fit pretty well with minimal adjustment). My personal dream would be an Italian Luxottica frame with Maui lenses. I have a similar complaint about my vintage American Opticals.
I do think that Ray-Ban should be separated into three eras: Bausch Ray-Bans, Italian Luxotticas, and Chinese Luxotticas. I think that Chinese Ray-Bans would probably land in D Tier with only their frame fitting qualities keeping them out of E, if even. I love my Italian Ray-Bans (RB 3675 to be precise), and they're probably my favorite Luxottica offerings without breaking into Persol and Oliver Peoples territory, and neither have appealing Aviator offerings to me as of writing, though I would not be surprised if this ends up changing.
I'm personally looking at getting my hands on a pair of Serengetis and Ditas, but I think I need to keep my eyes on Olivers just in case I find something interesting. Maybach's are a bit of a long term goal for me. The only real fashion brand I want to get my hands on is Chanel since its a bit of a family tradition on my end to go with Coco's company, but most fashion brands are for aesthetics only.
I would put Maui Jim in A for their exceptional lens and above average frames. Only reason I wouldn't put them in S is because their designs are underwhelming.
Ray-Ban does deserve credit for their heritage and contributions to the industry but in terms of quality it could be better so I would put them in B, or A if you value the iconic styling and design.
SMITH is another brand. They make some pretty decent products. Their chromopop lens tech is fantastic. Frames are well constructed and durable. I've got a pair of Guides Choice with low-light yellow lenses. Meant for fishing, but great for cloudy days.
I own three pairs of Smith's...loooove their optics. Don't love the frame that comes with the chromopop lenses. They feel cheap, but the Chromopop lenses makes up for it. The other frames are okay.
Amazing video but for the quality and material of Maui Jim I would place it on the S tier the rest I agree even loving Oakley's but quality and lenses are not what is used to be! Amazing content Shade Review!
It’s just the size that’s a bit to large for me!
But I definitely see where you are coming from!
I disagree with the Costa ranking because while a lot of the styles they offer are unflattering they still do offer great, classic looking styles like the Paunch or some of the "Costa Untangled" Glasses. In my opinion at least.
Honestly spot on. Let's let the sting get taken off of this dolce fiasco and then persol will take its thrown in S-tier.
Ya a few years from now hopefully we can all forget this ever happened 🤣
@@ShadeReview I'm still waiting on the April fools joke to kick in but i guess this is real...
@@ShadeReviewyou should do another ranking video now..:) of course everybody will have different opinion about where they should belong but I think your decisions are spot on.
Oh my gosh at 9:21 when he finally taked about Tom Ford
for those of you who don't know T F sued him for a video made about 2 years ago and because of that he can never review them.
@@suzieboo643 oh ok that is why he has a support list for them. 😂😂😂
@@charlesmack6235 yes lol
I think that serengeti is unique with photochromatic and polarized lenses.
How about Montblanc? Have you encountered this brand for sunglasses?
MJ and RE should be in S. MJ has superb lens quality for multiple purposes (fishing, hiking, hunting, leisure, etc) and various frame styles. RE - not as many frames as others but damn great quality as well, like they said, it’s worth an investment due to the superb quality.
RB - regardless of history (AO has wow factor history as well), the fact China has hands on it just kills it. Shouldn’t have been on the S category. At best an A, at least a B.
But like you said at the end, it’s your opinion. Great video though.
I still have my Serengetis that I bought in the 80s. They cost me a ton back then, but they're still going strong today, and even look better on me now, than they did back then. Rayban is still my second favorite, because they are timeless classics.
Hey do you do prescription sunglasses, I was thinking of buying couple of Oliver people from your store?
We don’t do them in house at the moment but we have a fantastic partner that does! They can do custom tints transitions anything you want we can get you right! 😎
O MAN O MAN, you are my go to person when it comes to sunglasses. But you placing RAY BAN on that level now just changes the game. You should have made a special category for brands that have influenced the industry, known for trends but not the best for over quality…..
I recently bought a pair of maui jims to replace my old serengetis, and had to return them because the lenses had noticably less clarity than the serengetis. I wouldnt put those two brands together as being equivalent
Persol is Definitely S tier. They're really unmatched with style, quality and materials.
1. Persol, Ray-Ban (tie) even though persol crushes them in quality.
2. Oliver peoples.
That's all I need 🤷🏻♂️
Awesome thanks for the comment!
@@ShadeReview Great list
As a whole, Persol is better quality than Ray-Ban, because they dont have a lower tier line with cheaper made frames etc. But Ray-Ban's do have some made in italy glasses are that equal. They are all made by luxottica after all
Bro , what do you think of Revo Sunglasses?
I think a lot of weight in this ranking was given to style, and in particular the style you liked. It would be good to have some weight for lens quality, frame quality, value (quality/price ratio), etc.
Very nice and entertaining video, thanks
Thats a good tier list , but i have a clue , witch its better sport shades Oakley or Bolle ???
Hey bud great videos I appreciate all the time you have taken to give us this information. I like the Ray Ban Wayfarer, could you suggest a pair of sunglasses like those with Black Lenses thanks for the help.
History aside, Luxxotica brands are absolutely crap. Putting Ray Ban and Oliver Peoples into S is a big miss in my opinion.
Fair points, buy what you like is the general rule of thumb for me. Persols just suit my face and for hand made in Italy glasses for 200 ish euros/dollars/ pounds I think you get good bang for buck. I really should shell out the extra for the polarized lenses next time.
Ya I totally agree Persol definitely have a great price point to them!
Hey do you have any opinions on Celine sunglasses. They have some very classic frames that are aesthetically nice but don’t know much about the quality of the lenses or acetate they use
They are not bad, but they are not at the same level as the persols. They are overpriced a bit because of high fashion brand, but insanely overpriced as the Cartier frames :)) for the look, you can of course buy Celine glasses but know that you can buy higher quality sunglasses for less if they are not a fashion brand.
Didn’t see Matsuda, I’ve heard they’re hard to find but I figured you’d have one or two.
From a functional perspective Maui Jim’s are top tier, love their non slip nose pads and high quality lens. And I agree that their lens tend to be oversized, but that’s so they offer more protection. So function over form. I have a larger sized head so think they look fine. Overall I’d agree though that from a style perspective they are not top tier. I love Persols but if I wear my Steve Macqueens for any length of time they start slipping down my nose which is annoying. If they had Maui Jim nose pads they’d be unstoppable!
I'd keep MJ in B becasue polarization doesn't work for everyone and that's all they sell.
How do you mean?
@@attilab.2818 Pilots, people with digital dashboards, people who use screens outside, motorcycle riders with visors that may themselves be polarized.
What about Carrera sun glasses ?
Ray Bans above Maui jim and Serengeti? I mean 30 years ago RBs were good but now not even close to MJ and Serengeti quality on lenses or frames and Rbs are owned by luxottica which mass produce mostly junk at high prices.
This video gets TWO THUMBS down!!! You are being too hard on Persol when it's hand made in Italy. High quality sunglasses!!! Who cares about the fact that they copy a lot of Ray Ban styles... when they do it better!!! Ray Ban lower the quality of their sunglasses by having it made in China... should AUTOMATIC move them down to A tier. Persol deserves to be in S Tier for the quality. If you held Persol Wayfarer against Ray Ban wayfarer in your hands, you would automatic notice the better quality in Persol against cheap made Ray Ban!!!
I have some nice metal frame Maui Jim's that I've had for about 15 years.there still holding up and look great.
Thought your rankings were all well-reasoned and I especially like your factoring in of history and heritage which doesn't always get considered. Only surprise for me was ranking Serengeti a 'B' given how much you loved their Wayne model (Which I have on order btw)...My best regards to you.
So Serengeti I hasn’t been extremely revenant for the past 10 years or so..
It’s just now recently (past 3 years) that they have really started to change the game!
And that’s awesome I know you will enjoy the Wayne!
My Garrett Leight Brooks Sun are some of my favourite sunglasses I’ve ever owned.
wonder what's up with Tom Ford .. i laughed so much when you throw it in the trash.
Never owned one, and other glasses reviewers said they are sh*t as well. Are they "THAT" bad?
No they are not that bad. I have 6 or 7 Tom Ford sunglasses and their quality are ok. But not at the same level as the ones in b-a-s category. Their glasses are not that good and frames for what I heard, have many problems. I didn’t have any issues yet but I’m not using them all the time..:) I think they should be in the c or d category. Maui Jim, Serengeti, Randolph engineering, Persol, Oliver peoples have much better glasses.
Fun video! I mostly agree with your ratings but not with Ray-Ban being S and not Persol. Basically, I think both should be in the same tier by similar arguments. Both were S in the past and now they're somewhat worse. So by the same argument Persol is not S, then Ray-Ban should not be S as well. I also hate the Persol+D&G collab but I think Ray-Ban does similarly cheap stuff (e.g. Made in China). If anything, I would say Ray-Ban is A and Persol is almost-S. Strictly speaking I think Oliver Peoples is the only one that deserves S from this list.
Second, I would love know to more about what happened with Tom Ford lol. Can you talk about it? You mentioned in the video so maybe you can say something about what happened,.
Finally, some brands that would be nice to include and that you should definitely review: Carrera, Barton Perreira, L.G.R, Matsuda, Jacques Marie Mage. There's some S tier potential here.
Ya I totally agree with you and want to get into those other brands. I actually have reviewed Carrera before
How would you rate Dior? Looking at the Neodior Ru but there’s barely any info out there
Are the Getty II S sunglasses made by Mr. Leight or Garrett Leight? Because both websites seem to sell them, and Mr. Leight actually has a link to GL for the sunglasses as well. A little confusing!
They are pretty much the same thing now lol.
But the Japan made frames are MR
@@ShadeReview would you recommend them? Yay or nay?
Where would you put Revo? Their lens technology is amazing
Where would you place SUNGODS brand with their 8k polarized lens
Hi,
you forgot to mention Jacques Marie Mage glasses :)
I wouldn’t put Jacques Marie mage glasses to S tear, next to the Oliver peoples because of their insane prices. JMM only uses all glass lenses in their high end models and their prices are well over the thousand dollars. Their acetates are similar to Oliver peoples’s Japan made or special collaboration models I think. Oliver peoples frames are just simple and classy, JMM frames are on the other hand they have much more presence, not everyone’s taste. Yes they are great sunglasses but I think no other brands come closer to Oliver peoples for price and quality.. Oliver peoples would be on top of my list for sure.
What acetate sunglasses (brand)do you recommend for people with big noses, bridge size 20 and up.
Thanks
Cazal
Whar was the the category that Tom Ford ended up in? 😅
I have a pair of TF108s, look good but dissapointing quality.
What do you think of Mont Blanc Glasses?
Has anyone had issues with their Vaurnet frames peeling and cracking? I picked up some legend 03 but sent them back after reading some negative reviews over the peeling issue and the arms breaking easily.
really helpful video thanks
I believe persol and oliverpeoples are the best when it comes to quality,price/value it edges to persol..plus i dm tbd and they said in 2023 they realesse glass lenses
Serengeti vs RayBan ?
I see 1 Prada in 1 Movie on the Cinema, and after that i found and i buy this model Prada PR 22YS
I really enjoyed your list, it made me realise that apart from Persol & Vintage RB`s i don`t own any others on the list .
Ray ban would be an S if they were still owned by B&L , that is where the legacy was made & they became iconic. The history has nothing to do with Luxottiga, they have no interest other than to buy the history & rinse the brand for all it`s worth ,they have destroyed RB IMHO. Persol is one of my favourite brands but the D&G nonsense has the smell of Luxottiga all over it & how long before we see Persol being made in China ?. I have been getting as far away as possible from Luxottiga & searching out independents & vintage . The Renauld Sixty One is on my wish list .
I totally agree if BL Ray Ban was still around they would be in a while other category! Such amazing technology and frame design!
I so agree with you.
You have missed a big one. CARTIER. Using thick precious metal plating, elegant designs, nothing compares. I would rather spend 1000 on something that costed 200 bucks to make than spend 500 on something that costed 5 dollars to make.
Buffalo horn temples! Comfortable and beautiful
200$ what would be the most expensive part? This is an interesting thought.
Cartier has a big name and that’s it. Kering produces their glasses and their quality is not that great. Ok they are not bad and they are not great. There are many other companies that uses thick plating, thicker than the Cartier and their prices are way lower because they are not as good known as the Cartier. I only have one Cartier sunglasses and I would never buy again. Just too much money for its worth.
Love your take and agree with most of your rankings. But would you agree that Garett Leight has some very nicely built frames even if they re MIC? also which brand do u think makes the highest quality acetate?
I've ever own a Garrett Leight Hampton 10th anniversary edition, and I have to admit that even it's MIC but it's build quality & finishing is really good and also flawless detail
@@demporaya4852 Na dude I know that GLC are legit made in the same factory in china as other way cheepr brands they just charge doubble and call it preamum..
Best independent and high quality manufacturers out there:
Etnia Barcelona
Vuarnet
Randolph Engineering
Serengeti
American Optical
Maui Jim
You’re welcome!
Need try try out Etnia Barcelona!
@@ShadeReview +1 on Etnia Barcelona!
Maui Jim is not independent manufacturer anymore
Maui Jim & Serengeti are owned by Boll'e Brands , a French company & like Luxottiga they are a huge eye wear corporation.
I thought Vuarnet were owned by Essillor
You're trying to tell me Persol copies Ray Ban? Nobody ever missed Ray Ban, they only gained actual popularity in the early 70s, and they were cheap AF. Then Luxottica pulled them from shelves after purchase and put them back up a few years later as part of a marketing stunt (people want things they can't have).
Persol has been kicking since the Treaty of Versailles, hand-making all their models. There's only so many ways you can make a classic, reserved pair of sunglasses, and if there's any resemblance between models, priority will always go to Persol for the sole fact they're an older, more respectable brand than the cheapened outsourced Ray-Ban. Persol easily in S, Ray Ban down to B
Do you know who is the manufacturer of Oakley in China? I thought of getting in touch, to see what other brands they manufacture there.
Luxottica who owns Oakley has their own hundred thousand square-foot plant in China.
So Ray bands, Oakley, Prada, and many more are made in the same plant in China
Costa and Oakley are the only ones that should be at S TIER
That’s hard facts
I disagree with a lot of your takes, mainly rayban, Maui Jim, costa, Persol, and Randolph. I agree with you on Oakley, though.
We can all agree with where Oakley is at right now 😂
While I am not an expert on materials, etc. when it comes to sunglasses, I would say that Oakley deserves a higher ranking for its sports performance glasses. Your list seems to be based on the more leisure ware glasses, but no other brand performs like Oakley in sports performance.
Vuarnet, Roka, Revo, Maui Jim all easily best Oakley even in the sports and performance category.
May I know your opinion on Matsuda and Chopard? Thanks
What would you rank brands like Carrera and Tom Ford? edit: Uh...just Carerra I guess LOL.
Carrera would prob be a B!
If bespoke makes great quality frames but don't have many color and polarization options plus not glass lenses, wouldn't you throw Moscot over them? Seems like Moscot has great quality acetate and then they check the other boxes you said bespoke didn't, just curious 🤷♂️.
Excellent video, and awesome ranking, although I would put OP in a class on their own. Loved the brief appearance of TF, was like ‘huh??’ and then lol’d. Good move. I really want to like Moscot (esp the Lemtosh) but really struggle with the price coupled with MiC, so can’t see that I’ll take the plunge tbh, at least not when there are OP styles that are still on my list.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it!
If you are looking for the beautiful Lemtosh style for way less check out Old Focals J.S.
The rumor in the sunglass business is they are made at the same company that Moscot used to make them in China but the are only $169 for the frames and then you can have That Glasses Guy install custom lenses in them! 😎
Thanks for the tip! Hope the store is going well 😎
Awesome list. Also, where would you rank Tom Ford? I think they have the regular line and private collection, but not sure if its worth it. Thanks!
He htes TF because they sued him i guess
Maui should be at least in the A Tier with Randolph, I get your point with Ray-Ban but today it's quality is a B tier, same with Persol.
Just wish Maui sized there glasses a bit smaller!
@@ShadeReview yes I got it, I'm talking about quality in a subjective point of view, but then is your personal list so everyone has their preferences haha, great video I don't miss any of them!
@@ShadeReview
Funny, I've found most of them too small. 😅
The problems with “the best lens” is that people’s eyes are different. Sure there are some specifications that might be beneficial but at the end of the day, it is a personal choice.
Hi Shade Review, where would you place 'Burberry' brand on the list?
I’d put them right there with Prada they are both made right next to each other by Lux haha
From the standpoint of build quality, I think the best metal frames are made by Leisure Society. The Lewitt, Coronado, Clairaut are exceptionally well-made. There is nothing even close from other companies. If we talk about acetate frames, the best ones are made by Jacques Marie Mage. Such frames as the Jacques Marie Mage Laramie are incredible in terms of build quality. Design-wise I prefer Mr. Leight sunglasses. The Doheny, Ichi S, Griffith S are beautiful. Basically, many Mr. Leight sunglasses are very similar to Oliver Peoples, but a little bit better made and sophisticated looking. History? I couldn't care less about such things. You don't wear "history", you wear a certain pair of sunglasses made from certain materials and looking a certain way.
yes you do wear history thats what a BRAND MEANS
It looks like you live in a Sunglass Hut! I love it! :))
Thanks hahah!
It is hard ranking sunglasses because different brands have different purposes and some could be at the top of their intended category, but at the bottom if judged by a category where others excell. Perhaps it's easier to establish categories like performance, styling, quality , desirability, etc. and then rank them. Or sports, lifestyle and fashion.
Ya I totally agree with you! That’s why I said this video was just for fun and not to be taken to seriously! Thanks for watching and the comments inglando!
@@ShadeReview Thank you for sharing your videos. I really enjoy them.
@@inglando No problem! Glad you are enjoying them!
Versace should be in the list. The one that Notorious B.I.G wore was so Iconic.
I like dita sunglasses, im not happy with Versace ones they don’t last the test of time
Good input here. I wonder if a video about eye-wear peripherals would be interesting. I'm looking for quality carrying cases at the moment. I've got several pairs of sunglasses that came with crummy cases (cough... Maui Jim)
Oh ya there new case is soooo bad!
Do you have the of the old bamboo case those were great!
@@ShadeReviewbought two pairs of Compass from Jomashop. Rose and bronze. Only rose came with the bamboo case and cover
So far, Oliver peoples are my best cases
I definitely don't agree with your list but it's not my list so. Ray-Ban for one is the Bose of the sunglass world total junk. I tend to grade sunglasses more for their lenses because eye protection is the most important thing about sunglasses. My favorite brands in no specific order are Costa, Maui Jim, Serengeti, and two that you didn't even mention, Revo and Smith optics. I had some vaurnet in the late 80s and they were good at that time but today they are substandard in my opinion.
Great video. I hope you do an update at least once per year.
Great idea I can save the PSD and come back to it!
Agreed with your list only thing bump up is MJ to A and Oakley for B plus if I had to add another company as I'm from the UK & a big Mclaren F1 fan is Sungod which I Prob put between B & C cause though their 8KO lens are great just lack of frame choices
I think the A rating for Randolph is fair. I have four of their frames. I bought their special edition aviator in 24k with the blue lenses and tortoise bayonets. Wore them one time to the pool, and noticed they had some corrosion in one of the stems in the bayonet a few days later( or after the vacation), and I definitely cleaned them after the pool. Separately, I have their basic matte silver with gray lense and clear bayonet (the ones Todd wears in Christmas Vacation!, which I bought as a 'lifetime' last sunglass type style)- never exposed to any salt or pool, and they also are developing a noticeable corrosion inside the clear bayonet....I don't think I should have to pay $25 and $10 shipping, plus my time, for a frame refresh which I've done once already. I noticed that there is some production inconsistency with the factory bend on the earstem inside the bayonet..some hug the back head and some are straighter. For their prices, their quality needs to be perfect in my opinion.
I think Oakley is at a C+ right now because they still have good legacy stuff mixed with their new lazy lifestyle designs, and I think they still do a good job with their futuristic sport frame designs. I just picked up their clear frame Holbrook XL with Blue Prism P lens at a half price discount right from the source, for the beach. They have the exact same quality as my original 1994 clear frame Frogskins that I still have, except Holbrook have a cam in the temple. That said, I don't think I could spend $200+ with no discount on a frame that used to cost about $50 (maybe $85 with polarized lenses) and were Made in USA. To my dismay, these Holbrooks are printed with Made in Brazil on one earstem, and have that USA Assembled emblem tag on the tip of the other. Never seen that before!
If anyone can advise compatible lens replacements for the older acetate Holbrook LX, please do! The polarized film is coming off all on its own and I still really like the frame.
Dita is S tier, Persol S tier, Ray Ban is B tier, where is Cartier and Maybach?
Dita is S tier you pay a lot, but the build quality is 2nd to none got in a 30 mph crash they fell off my face and only left 2 barely noticeable nicks I dropped my RAY BAN WAYFARER LITEFORCE from table height and shatterd the bottom right part of the frame. Imo B tier would be generous for rayban now
In lens quality are they all the same?
I like your videos. Nevertheless this time I have to disagree with you. Ray-Ban does not belong to "S" category. I understand your argument concerning history that you voice not for the first time, but Persol is an older company with not less colourful past. Secondly, while Persol has been handmade for over a century in the same Italian factory, Ray-ban these days is mass produced in China and the quality corresponds to that. Thirdly, you argument with copying doesn't stand as in this case all brands imitate Ray-Ban's Aviator, Clubmaster or Wayfarer etc. It's like stating that all companies copy Sony TV set's shape.
I totally understand why you rank the Ray Ban history so high but in my opinion, they completely crashed their legacy in the last couple years.
I would also like to know, why you put Tom Ford in the trash, because I think they are fine in quality and a bit too pricy but they just drop s-tear-designs.
It’s also interesting which labels you didn’t mention as in my opinion, Cazal, Cartier, Carrera, Matsuda and Porsche Design should find a way in such a ranking.
But maybe that’s my European view on this.
Very interesting video so far, and it’s also cool to listen to your opinion.
Thank you for your channel 🙏
I only have two pairs of sunglasses both good one are saint Laurent other is Versace. I got them because my dad get $2000 for glasses a year from his job.
What do you think of Pelagic?
Since the upload I'd watch the vid over n over n largely agree with you except that I think if u gonna credit O.P for their titanium frames u most credit R.E for their real gold and silver finishings also,these are precious metals also and add some sophostication to the looks.
THANKS for doing what u do,coz of u I came to know OP,RE,Persol etc .cheers .
Glad I could help out! Thanks for watching the videos!