Gosh I love watching these videos on rackets by the pros! I love what you do. Bravo x1000! I finally settled on my set up: 2023 Head Gravity Pro with 24/23 Luxilon Alu Power 32.4 cm balance, 349 grams strung, 350 swing weight. Added lead at hoop and 3&9 and 5 grams too in butt cap. PERFECTION FOR ME
yea briefly played with yonex in early 2010. He even won a title if I remember correctly, over Roddick with the yonex frame, but went back to his tecnifibre frame blacked out. After that, he went on a racket changing spree like a madman lol
@@andyv6299 My son went 6-0 in high school using an old 110 Prince Spectrum Comp. last year. The other racket he used is a 90' Silver Ace. He's got ProStaff rackets but preferred the old rackets. He liked beating the other kids with rackets as old as their coaches.
Almost all of my racquets weigh about 360g but I prefer the old Fischer racquets...especially the Vacuum Pro 90s. The way they hit and the feedback is like no other modern racquet I have tried. Some of the guys I play with have racquets that weigh 295g and it feels like a badminton racquet. Once you get used to a heavier racquet and your arm, shoulder and movement adapts to the heavier weight you don't ever want to go back to a light racquet. Hitting drives on both sides is such a great feeling. HOWEVER, you will feel miss hits and if you're regularly missing the sweet spot due to having an off day you'll know.
Hello. I coached tennis for some years at Mallorca Open Tour which Carlos Moya is co owner. We had available his rackets for coaching. Its funny to notice he played with the babolat Pure Drive Lite (289g) and added 15g of weight at both sides
5:48 Mannarino and Paire use the 2013-2015 model of the Aeropro, right? The one after the 2010-2012 model. I'm asking because at 5:53 it looks like the 2012 model and I'm a bit confused. - And at 6:44 it's back to 2013.
Hello TN! Thank you for your content. I think it is great that you advise people Not to use the same weights as the pros do. Most amateur players cannot put in the court time necessary to use such a racquet. I used to use "heavy" racquets when I was younger and then I started using racquets that were under 300 gr a few years ago and guess what? I stopped getting injuries in my arms and hands. It has been a real plus for my game. The only downside is when you are facing someone who serves at 150kph plus. Then suddenly as the racquet almost gets taken out of my hand do I miss the extra weight. Anyway, thank you for the content and I hope that you and yours are safe in this difficult time.
First of all, thanks for all you do. You are hands down the best racquet reviewer on TH-cam. The following is my list of great and somewhat underrated racquets from the past. Some were recognized in their day, some not so much. In no rank order: 2013 Wilson Blade 98 18x20, Head Graphene Extreme MP, 2012 Wilson BLX Pro Open, 2015 Babolat Pure Drive Tour, Yonex Ezone AI 98, Prince 03 Textreme Beast 100. Some honorable mentions from more recent racquets that got not so great reviews, but are good racquets when strung correctly are the Head Graphene Touch Radical MP and the Head Graphene Touch Extreme MP. I find most players have very little idea how much string choice and tension change how a racquet plays. Recreational players, especially, have little to no clue. I have only learned because I am a confessed racquet addict with my own stringing machine, about 10 different strings typed in my drawer, and (I’m ashamed to say it) 40 tennis racquets (and I have had many more over the last 5-6 years, always buying and selling on Ebay). Maybe I need my own TH-cam channel to post my own opinions (just kidding).
mebbe have video series for break down of pro and rackets used/using, itemized by brand, e.g. YONEX: Hewitt, Rios, Kyrgios, Wawrinka, etc. WILSON: Connors, Courier, Sampras, Federer, etc. GREAT WORK , regards!!!
Did you ever hit with the Slazenger Pro Braided? The real one from late 1990s, not the reissue? Something magical in that stick. Nowhere to be seen on the second markets unfortunately. I even wrote to Dunlop/Slazenger/Sumitomo to no avail.
This video contains some accurate information, mostly in specifications. The statements about models are not accurate. The frames are not the model in pro-stock version. Rather the actually frame used are completely different in mold, materials, shape, head size, string patterns, spacing, beam widths, structure, etc. The statements of model seem based upon public version from their early years. However, their actual frames were pro-stock and continued. See Novak's frame with Head initially, painted as a Prestige, moved to Wilson sponsorship in 2007 using a frame painted as a Blade, then returned to Head sponsorship in 2009, since, with paint matching a Speed (introduced then). Looking at videos and photos of Novak, the frame he has used throughout his career has been consistent in shape, size, beam, string pattern, spacing with a slight change from 18x20 to 18x19 after elbow surgery in 2018. Thus proof, also changing company sponsorship did not change the actual frame. This has been true for other players like Marin Cilic, Tomas Berdych, Andy Murray, Juan Martin Del Potro, Andre Agassi, Boris Becker, Jim Courier, Ivan Lendl, Stephen Edberg, Bjorn Borg, Martina Navratilova (after switching to Yonex, with an actual change to Bosworth at later years, now seen with Yonex again), Roger Federer has changed frame head size twice, possibly also twice in beam width, but consistent in materials [always 80%G/20%K as original PS Mid] (other specs may have changed slightly with head size, cross string changes (originally all natural gut, like all tour players), Rafa clearly has used a Babolat frame with the Aero shape, consistent beam width, head size, string pattern and string type. Am in complete agreement each player should choose a frame that is suitable for the individual, including other specifications. However, do not agree with the concept of frame weights and swing weights in general or specific to nearly all production models. My background and experience with many more years and expertise than the producer and speaker in this video, is more in line with Tom Avery which also correlates with sponsored players and coaches from collegiate and professional levels. The old standards of Light = 12.5 oz./354-5 g., is a recommended light frame, with possible S-L for those who need it. [Weights unstrung]. SW, Bal.,TW, string pattern, type and tension are adjusted specifically for each player. With less mass, the efforts of the body become inefficient and less effective. If a person has difficulty with a frame of 12 oz./340 g., it is a indication of lacking in bio-mechanics and improper body mechanics and fundamentals. As is commonly seen, many use far too much arm in their strokes without proper use of their body, legs, hips, torso. My physique is just 162-3 cm tall, 51-53 kg. 60 years now, and any frame lighter than 12.5 oz./354 g.,strung are noticeably too light, preferring a frame 12.5 oz. unstrung. If anyone has difficulty or trouble with a frame of weight like mine, You should consider this seriously, wonder why, analyze Your fundamentals, bio-mechanics, body mechanics and technique, and discover needed improvements then implement them for Your improvements. There is Much more to know, say and be aware of regarding frame materials, design, etc. Sincerely,
interesting also is the distinction between swingweight vs recoilweight - see on TH-cam ! F.i. take an average frame unstrung 310-315g // 310mm and put 20-25g inside the frame, somewhere between grip and the balancepoint (310mm) => you're weight is gaining but not your SW, only the recoilweight is gaining = more impact on the ball. Exploring this path, one could rather easily play with custemized frames up to 370-375 grams ... And then you experience a whole new ballgame :-) like easier spin, much more plowthrough and so on
@@uitkijkpost7403 interesting idea Please specify what is meaning and measure of recoil weight? Where is the additional weight added into 310-315g frame to raise it to 370-375g? Certainly there will be more force, weight into the ball. How does this weight distribution have improvement in Spain transmitted to the ball? Sincerely
I have 2 Prestige Pros (reddish maroon with sparkles) 89.5in head size and 2 Prestige Classic mids, They literally feel and look the same(minus the paintjob) and I was wondering what the difference is between those and a PT10. Would they be considered PT10s or just production frames like the ones people buy now?
Hello Tennis Nerd/Everyone...i was wondering what is going on with the non-prostock racquets Quality Control..I've tested the Pure Strike 18x20 recently which i liked it so much that i purchased a second one. However, it seems there is a slight different in the weight between the two..i also understand from different sources that wilson has the worst quality control..
Hi, tennisnerd! I love your channel. Not sure if you have gone over this before but, I'm curios to know if there are any pros or college level players using the Wilson Blade 98 16x19 v7. I mean the retail one you can buy at the tennis shop, not the pro stock. I'm a 4.5 -5.0 player depending on the day who loves this racquet but, I'm wondering if I should add some lead tape or just try out the pro stock version to enhance this racquet's potential. How much tape should I add and where should I add it to make my blade feel like the pro stock version? Is that even possible? Please help.
Hi Hunter, thanks! Yes, there are plenty of high level college players using the Blade 98 in stock form. The swing weight is high enough. No need to chase a pro stock. You can add some lead tape at 12 o clock if you want to bump at the swing weight a bit.
Almost never use the actual racquets they are endorsing. Which makes sense, they learned how to play effectively with something else. You can't risk your performance over a sponsorship.
Jonas what else are you interested in? I think a non-tennis related tennisnerd video would be interesting. What are your other hobbies? Cars? Games? Other sports? Enquiring minds...
You know pro. players use heavy rackets not bc they are advanced, but bc they are big with big muscles. Also, they are taller which give them more time to manage the balls off the bounce, which also enables to have more spin.
@@Tennisnerd sure, but it takes EXTRA extraordinary timing, EXTRA extraordinary skills, EXTRA extraordinary consistency,... It is about math (extra seconds, extra cm.,...). It easier for more tall players.
Where can i view the whole spec sheet as displayed at 6.19? Thats great info. Any one know what racket, strings and tension Veronica Kudermetova uses? Looks like a 16x18 and a hybrid of some kind but that could be the light, I’m also trying to find out what Elina Rybakina uses, I’m sure its Poly tour Fire as its a yonex and red, just curious on tension, Another great vid, I love the technical side of things.. Thanks
Honest question...how do people know for a fact that pros play with much older racquets. E.g it is said that Nadal plays with a 2005 AeroPro...how do we know for a fact this is true...
Good question - you can see it from the various molds and the measured specs. On Nadal’s older racquets you could see that the Cortex system was painted for example. I know a few people who own his match-used racquets so being able to see them and measure them properly is important.
Gosh I love watching these videos on rackets by the pros! I love what you do. Bravo x1000! I finally settled on my set up: 2023 Head Gravity Pro with 24/23 Luxilon Alu Power 32.4 cm balance, 349 grams strung, 350 swing weight. Added lead at hoop and 3&9 and 5 grams too in butt cap. PERFECTION FOR ME
Great video thank you Jonas...combining some of your older footage with others we've not seen before.
Excellent work. 🎾🎾🎾
Thanks 🙏🏼
Verdasco had a Yonex RDIS 200 only for a month. He even was in the advertisement but he didn't keep it
It was in 2010 after using technifiber
yea briefly played with yonex in early 2010. He even won a title if I remember correctly, over Roddick with the yonex frame, but went back to his tecnifibre frame blacked out. After that, he went on a racket changing spree like a madman lol
Once you get used to playing with a heavier racket, light rackets feel like paper.
I like lighter racket for serving but my old 25year old prince racket classed as heavy 340g don't feel heavy so I'm confused
i play with a pro staff RF97 with silicon in the handle, n i love it! weights 371g strung LOL
@@andyv6299 My son went 6-0 in high school using an old 110 Prince Spectrum Comp. last year. The other racket he used is a 90' Silver Ace. He's got ProStaff rackets but preferred the old rackets. He liked beating the other kids with rackets as old as their coaches.
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This is a very informative video. Thank you.
Almost all of my racquets weigh about 360g but I prefer the old Fischer racquets...especially the Vacuum Pro 90s. The way they hit and the feedback is like no other modern racquet I have tried. Some of the guys I play with have racquets that weigh 295g and it feels like a badminton racquet. Once you get used to a heavier racquet and your arm, shoulder and movement adapts to the heavier weight you don't ever want to go back to a light racquet. Hitting drives on both sides is such a great feeling. HOWEVER, you will feel miss hits and if you're regularly missing the sweet spot due to having an off day you'll know.
Hi, please keep it going with this type of videos, great stuff.
Hello. I coached tennis for some years at Mallorca Open Tour which Carlos Moya is co owner. We had available his rackets for coaching. Its funny to notice he played with the babolat Pure Drive Lite (289g) and added 15g of weight at both sides
Hi. I am pretty sure it was a Babolat Soft Drive - he used that for most of his career in Babolat paint jobs 👍🏻
@@Tennisnerd I have the rackets in my house he gifted me. I can send you pictures. babolat from 2015 for the veteran circuit
Yes send pics 👍🏻 tennisnerdnetATgmaildotcom
5:48 Mannarino and Paire use the 2013-2015 model of the Aeropro, right? The one after the 2010-2012 model. I'm asking because at 5:53 it looks like the 2012 model and I'm a bit confused.
- And at 6:44 it's back to 2013.
Yes, sorry for the confusion - they use the 2013 version
Hello TN! Thank you for your content. I think it is great that you advise people Not to use the same weights as the pros do. Most amateur players cannot put in the court time necessary to use such a racquet. I used to use "heavy" racquets when I was younger and then I started using racquets that were under 300 gr a few years ago and guess what? I stopped getting injuries in my arms and hands. It has been a real plus for my game. The only downside is when you are facing someone who serves at 150kph plus. Then suddenly as the racquet almost gets taken out of my hand do I miss the extra weight. Anyway, thank you for the content and I hope that you and yours are safe in this difficult time.
Very instrutive video, I aprecciate you effort!
First of all, thanks for all you do. You are hands down the best racquet reviewer on TH-cam. The following is my list of great and somewhat underrated racquets from the past. Some were recognized in their day, some not so much. In no rank order: 2013 Wilson Blade 98 18x20, Head Graphene Extreme MP, 2012 Wilson BLX Pro Open, 2015 Babolat Pure Drive Tour, Yonex Ezone AI 98, Prince 03 Textreme Beast 100. Some honorable mentions from more recent racquets that got not so great reviews, but are good racquets when strung correctly are the Head Graphene Touch Radical MP and the Head Graphene Touch Extreme MP. I find most players have very little idea how much string choice and tension change how a racquet plays. Recreational players, especially, have little to no clue. I have only learned because I am a confessed racquet addict with my own stringing machine, about 10 different strings typed in my drawer, and (I’m ashamed to say it) 40 tennis racquets (and I have had many more over the last 5-6 years, always buying and selling on Ebay). Maybe I need my own TH-cam channel to post my own opinions (just kidding).
Excellent details
mebbe have video series for break down of pro and rackets used/using, itemized by brand, e.g. YONEX: Hewitt, Rios, Kyrgios, Wawrinka, etc. WILSON: Connors, Courier, Sampras, Federer, etc. GREAT WORK , regards!!!
do you know if any player plays with a pro stock from another brand as they endorses
Yeah I heard of that
That was the case for Agassi, he used a Donnay under a Head Radical for some years
I heard Qiang Wang uses a Yonex under a Dunlop paintjob. It's painfully obvious due to Yonex's unique head shape.
DeeeFoo
Interesting 🧐
Pretty sure Shapovalov still uses the SV95 since I didn't see any "aero fin" on his frame
im curious if benoit's racquet was lighter because of the grass tournament, i.e. lighter for a serve volley approach
Did you ever hit with the Slazenger Pro Braided? The real one from late 1990s, not the reissue? Something magical in that stick. Nowhere to be seen on the second markets unfortunately. I even wrote to Dunlop/Slazenger/Sumitomo to no avail.
I sadly never hit with that one! Yes, it is close to impossible to find - if I do, I would review it 👍🏻
This video contains some accurate information, mostly in specifications. The statements about models are not accurate. The frames are not the model in pro-stock version. Rather the actually frame used are completely different in mold, materials, shape, head size, string patterns, spacing, beam widths, structure, etc.
The statements of model seem based upon public version from their early years. However, their actual frames were pro-stock and continued.
See Novak's frame with Head initially, painted as a Prestige, moved to Wilson sponsorship in 2007 using a frame painted as a Blade, then returned to Head sponsorship in 2009, since, with paint matching a Speed (introduced then). Looking at videos and photos of Novak, the frame he has used throughout his career has been consistent in shape, size, beam, string pattern, spacing with a slight change from 18x20 to 18x19 after elbow surgery in 2018. Thus proof, also changing company sponsorship did not change the actual frame. This has been true for other players like Marin Cilic, Tomas Berdych, Andy Murray, Juan Martin Del Potro, Andre Agassi, Boris Becker, Jim Courier, Ivan Lendl, Stephen Edberg, Bjorn Borg, Martina Navratilova (after switching to Yonex, with an actual change to Bosworth at later years, now seen with Yonex again), Roger Federer has changed frame head size twice, possibly also twice in beam width, but consistent in materials [always 80%G/20%K as original PS Mid] (other specs may have changed slightly with head size, cross string changes (originally all natural gut, like all tour players), Rafa clearly has used a Babolat frame with the Aero shape, consistent beam width, head size, string pattern and string type.
Am in complete agreement each player should choose a frame that is suitable for the individual, including other specifications. However, do not agree with the concept of frame weights and swing weights in general or specific to nearly all production models.
My background and experience with many more years and expertise than the producer and speaker in this video, is more in line with Tom Avery which also correlates with sponsored players and coaches from collegiate and professional levels. The old standards of Light = 12.5 oz./354-5 g., is a recommended light frame, with possible S-L for those who need it. [Weights unstrung]. SW, Bal.,TW, string pattern, type and tension are adjusted specifically for each player. With less mass, the efforts of the body become inefficient and less effective. If a person has difficulty with a frame of 12 oz./340 g., it is a indication of lacking in bio-mechanics and improper body mechanics and fundamentals. As is commonly seen, many use far too much arm in their strokes without proper use of their body, legs, hips, torso. My physique is just 162-3 cm tall, 51-53 kg. 60 years now, and any frame lighter than 12.5 oz./354 g.,strung are noticeably too light, preferring a frame 12.5 oz. unstrung. If anyone has difficulty or trouble with a frame of weight like mine, You should consider this seriously, wonder why, analyze Your fundamentals, bio-mechanics, body mechanics and technique, and discover needed improvements then implement them for Your improvements.
There is Much more to know, say and be aware of regarding frame materials, design, etc.
Sincerely,
interesting also is the distinction between swingweight vs recoilweight - see on TH-cam !
F.i. take an average frame unstrung 310-315g // 310mm and put 20-25g inside the frame, somewhere between grip and the balancepoint (310mm) => you're weight is gaining but not your SW, only the recoilweight is gaining = more impact on the ball. Exploring this path, one could rather easily play with custemized frames up to 370-375 grams ... And then you experience a whole new ballgame :-) like easier spin, much more plowthrough and so on
@@uitkijkpost7403 interesting idea
Please specify what is meaning and measure of recoil weight?
Where is the additional weight added into 310-315g frame to raise it to 370-375g?
Certainly there will be more force, weight into the ball. How does this weight distribution have improvement in Spain transmitted to the ball?
Sincerely
7:23 I thought he used Tourna grip?
DeeeFoo no head pro grip
Isn't that basically the same as Tourna Grip?
Yea
Thumbs up if you want to see Diego Schwartzman's gear.
How is the swingwaeight higher then normal weight with balance around 32 or 33 ?
Really enjoyed this video!! Your tennis footage and reviews are at another level. Live stream soon?
Thanks! Haha, maybe :)
I am using a Dunlop 200 4D Aerogel Tour specification. SW is 352. is that high? Always thought it is a bit "heavy" but with nice plough through.
Yeah that is a heavy stick!
I have 2 Prestige Pros (reddish maroon with sparkles) 89.5in head size and 2 Prestige Classic mids, They literally feel and look the same(minus the paintjob) and I was wondering what the difference is between those and a PT10. Would they be considered PT10s or just production frames like the ones people buy now?
The PT10 is a Prestige Classic 600 but in a lighter hairpin made for customization - so they won’t feel very different
Hello Tennis Nerd/Everyone...i was wondering what is going on with the non-prostock racquets Quality Control..I've tested the Pure Strike 18x20 recently which i liked it so much that i purchased a second one. However, it seems there is a slight different in the weight between the two..i also understand from different sources that wilson has the worst quality control..
Yeah, poor QC is something pretty much all brands suffer from. Yonex is perhaps the best brand for QC, Angell is another good one...
Hi, tennisnerd! I love your channel. Not sure if you have gone over this before but, I'm curios to know if there are any pros or college level players using the Wilson Blade 98 16x19 v7. I mean the retail one you can buy at the tennis shop, not the pro stock. I'm a 4.5 -5.0 player depending on the day who loves this racquet but, I'm wondering if I should add some lead tape or just try out the pro stock version to enhance this racquet's potential. How much tape should I add and where should I add it to make my blade feel like the pro stock version? Is that even possible? Please help.
Hi Hunter, thanks! Yes, there are plenty of high level college players using the Blade 98 in stock form. The swing weight is high enough. No need to chase a pro stock. You can add some lead tape at 12 o clock if you want to bump at the swing weight a bit.
@@Tennisnerd Thanks, man! I'll give it a try.
I really like extended, dont need to add weight either.
Isn't the Yonex vcore sv 95 and the new Yonex vcore 95 pretty much the same racket or the different stiffness makes a big difference???
Stiffness makes a difference -
Do all the next-gen players use relatively new rackets/the ones they endorse?
Not generally.
Almost never use the actual racquets they are endorsing. Which makes sense, they learned how to play effectively with something else. You can't risk your performance over a sponsorship.
Jonas what else are you interested in? I think a non-tennis related tennisnerd video would be interesting. What are your other hobbies? Cars? Games? Other sports? Enquiring minds...
I am interested in a lot of things, but I am not sure people would appreciate me talking about them. I really appreciate you thinking so though!
Tennisnerd Fair enough. Might work in a future Q&A video, though.
You know pro. players use heavy rackets not bc they are advanced, but bc they are big with big muscles. Also, they are taller which give them more time to manage the balls off the bounce, which also enables to have more spin.
There are skinny/unfit guys who can blast the ball - it’s timing and technique - not muscles
@@Tennisnerd sure, but it takes EXTRA extraordinary timing, EXTRA extraordinary skills, EXTRA extraordinary consistency,... It is about math (extra seconds, extra cm.,...). It easier for more tall players.
@@Tennisnerd you misread what I wrote. Read it again.
@@PeterDMayr thats bull you dont ned muscles to hit a tennis ball look at federer super skinny arms muscles in tennis means slower swing
@@jeffjeffersons4640 skinny? Really? There is also amplitude. Longer arms. Longer muscles too.
More string review Jonas! Thanks
As soon as I can get back on the court!
Fun video
Is there any pro using the same racket that is sold on the market or a very similar one?
Spyros Fuscovic
any updates?
Player above 3.5 should have swing weight in the 360+.
Im surprised on how many extended frame there are in this vid. Maybe somethibg more rec player should consider?.
Yes, for sure, worth testing at least! But the swing weight does get quite high.
Great video. If you want more views you might want to change the thumbnail, make it a bit more enticing (maybe add pictures of some of the pros).
Good idea!
Where can i view the whole spec sheet as displayed at 6.19? Thats great info.
Any one know what racket, strings and tension Veronica Kudermetova uses? Looks like a 16x18 and a hybrid of some kind but that could be the light,
I’m also trying to find out what Elina Rybakina uses, I’m sure its Poly tour Fire as its a yonex and red, just curious on tension,
Another great vid, I love the technical side of things..
Thanks
The link to the sheet is in the written post tennisnerd.net/gear/racquets/pro-player-racquets/the-racquets-of-the-atp-pros/21505 :)
Tennisnerd you legend :-)
Lleyton Hewitt pls :)
Will do a video about that soon!
@@Tennisnerd C'mon
What about the racquet used by Gasquet, please/
what about Kei Nishikori????
Honest question...how do people know for a fact that pros play with much older racquets. E.g it is said that Nadal plays with a 2005 AeroPro...how do we know for a fact this is true...
Good question - you can see it from the various molds and the measured specs. On Nadal’s older racquets you could see that the Cortex system was painted for example. I know a few people who own his match-used racquets so being able to see them and measure them properly is important.
Coooool
Mackenzie McDonald?
why play with a raquet when the most powerful play is in your head being motivated
why these tall players are all using extended raquets thats cheating all raquets should be regulated and made even to make the competition fair
There are pros and cons with XL frames and Fed, Murray, Novak, Rafa and Stan have all used regular length frames for most of their careers.