Tri-ang Railways R.257 Double Ended Electric Loco with Two-Tone Green 2nd Series TC Coaches

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  • A look at the Tri-ang Railways R.257 Two-Tone Double Ended Electric Loco (c1959-64) with a rake of Two-Tone Green 2nd Series Transcontinental Coaches R.335 Coach, R.336 Observation Car, R.337 Baggage/Kitchen Car and R.338 Dinner (c1961-63?). All running on Super 4 track with the locomotive being powered by the catenary. There is a brief appearance of the R.353 Yard Switcher (c1960-65) with R.278 Snowplough Attachment (c1960-63?) bringing the caches to the station. All dates are approximate Music Source / Royalty-free Apple loops/Looperman.com

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  • @Steven_Rowe
    @Steven_Rowe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The 59 cat was Mr first
    I was a mere 6 and I got R3M set for Christmas, the DMU and battery controller.
    I was ecstatic on Christmas morning.
    I can still smell the box and the newness of it.
    Protected by mum and dad and living in a juvenile bubble.
    Wonderful days

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Steven, thanks for sharing those memories.
      Oscar

  • @jeffreymcneal1507
    @jeffreymcneal1507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must add, for vintage collectors, your site is an invaluable contribution. Your detailed analysis and review is found no where else.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the compliment Jeffrey.
      Stay safe.
      Oscar

  • @ArcadiaJunctionModelTrains
    @ArcadiaJunctionModelTrains 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even though it is a fictional model, this loco in green has to be one of the most beautiful model trains every produced. That colour scheme is just glorious.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi your right its a lovely looking item.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @POUNCEMAN1
    @POUNCEMAN1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favorite locomotives,, again sold it 30 years ago ,, but just bought another through Ebay

  • @NorbertRoll
    @NorbertRoll 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely wonderful presented beautiful models. Excellent as always.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Norbert, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
      Glad you enjoyed it.
      Oscar

    • @NorbertRoll
      @NorbertRoll 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarpaisley Hi Oscar, stay safe at home if you are able. That's is the best to prevent an infection. A disinfection against viruses is very important too. All the best to you and your relatives.

  • @jkb1955
    @jkb1955 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great looking train.Thanks Oscar.!

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @ChapelEndJunctionUK
    @ChapelEndJunctionUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your collection of trains is truly amazing Oscar , love watching your videos .........Peter

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank again Peter for watching, it's great to hear you are enjoying the videos.
      Oscar

  • @Meld61
    @Meld61 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful working time capsules

  • @Martin.
    @Martin. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello,
    I always enjoy watching your interesting videos. very nice locos and passenger cars could be seen again today. the catenary looks great on your layout. cheers martin

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, Martin great to hear you enjoyed seeing the catenary in action.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

    • @Martin.
      @Martin. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarpaisley you’re welcome

  • @kennethljungberg642
    @kennethljungberg642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing the items.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @johne5854
    @johne5854 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely video.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @adriancartlidge4018
    @adriancartlidge4018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Oscar. Really interesting to watch your video's, you have a wide range of model's in your collection.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Adrian glad you’re enjoying the videos.
      Take care.
      Oscar

  • @barbarataws3824
    @barbarataws3824 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks very much Oscar. I once got the green and orange version for Christmas many years ago.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow! what a terrific present to have received.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @mattaustin2128
    @mattaustin2128 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oscar, I do enjoy your videos, and I'm particularly enjoying this one, as I've recently picked up a pristine set of green Transcontinental coaches in boxes, as well as a play-worn set and loco which well be a restoration project in the near future. Thank you for what you do.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good morning Matt, terrific to hear you have a set of these with there boxes.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @trainsontuesday
    @trainsontuesday 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Oscar. Well you've added to my knowledge of my models again. I have 3 of the coaches (not the observation dome though) but I really didn't know anything about them. I took them down from the display case this morning and ran them behind one of my R54
    4-6-2 locos. I think it is a good match. I have a video coming out this Wed. showing the blue diesel stripped down to look like your service sheet at 5.19 in your video. Thank you as always for another fabulous video. Regards, David.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi David, great to hear you enjoyed the video. Those coaches would look great behind the R54. R159 stripped down like its service sheet sounds like a great idea.
      I look forward to watching it.
      Oscar

  • @paulosman3369
    @paulosman3369 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Oscar
    As I said last time I had not had much to do with triang tc but that you had give me the nudge, well at a show today I bought my first set its the silver and red 3 set loco @2 driving cars with centre unit plus 4 coaches, all works fine and all for a princely sum of 30.00 what a bargain. Thanks Paul.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Paul that sound like a very successful trip to a show. Hope you have fun with them.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @munirahmed2903
    @munirahmed2903 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favourite locomotive R.159

  • @combatbunny9820
    @combatbunny9820 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking in those catalogs and dreaming of all the locomotives I wanted.Memories Memories.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video.
      Oscar

  • @davidstrains4910
    @davidstrains4910 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Oscar she looks like a great loco

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks David glad you enjoyed the video.
      Oscar

  • @danielread7642
    @danielread7642 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are very informative as a Tri-ang collector myself from New Zealand I find them very helpfull. The duo tone livery I quite like I just need to find the baggage car and a locco to pull them

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good morning, thanks for watching. Glad to hear you’re finding the videos interesting. Did your tone livery is quite lovely. They do show from time to time on the well-known auction site, but seem to attract some quite astonishing prices.
      All the best .
      Oscar

    • @danielread7642
      @danielread7642 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oscarpaisley thank you yes on our trade me sight they go for use prices as well

  • @mike59317
    @mike59317 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very nice set Oscar.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Michael for watching glad you enjoyed seeing these models in action.
      Oscar

  • @robinmathews2446
    @robinmathews2446 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The skirts that I mentioned are also listed with different part numbers S 5436 for the R 357 and S 5377 for the R 159 locos

  • @chr1sda1sey
    @chr1sda1sey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the sound that the loco makes and I have had a little bit of sucess with my single ended Transcontinental by replacing the original magnet with a neo magnet

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They make a great sound. I have heard that neo magnets are very good. They can bring a much needed lease of life to motors that have been dismantled and reassembled without the magnets being either remagnetised or a keeper used when removing to preserve magnetism.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @simonblake5563
    @simonblake5563 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The transcontinental range certainly added glamour to the Triang range in the 60s, none more so than these green liveried items. Great video Oscar, really lovely models. In NZ the green livery was listed till the late sixties, but in saying that they are pretty rare here. We never got the pantograph loco, Only our red and blue diesel versions. Many thanks! Your videos are much appreciated.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good evening Simon thanks for the information. It's great to hear you are enjoying the videos.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @RiflemanMoore
    @RiflemanMoore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't have room to re-start collecting the models yet but I might have to try and find some of the old catalogues in the interim, lovely things in their own right and they take up a lot less space.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good morning there are some loverly catalogues and they make for great collecting, the ones for the TT range are gorgeous too, sadly I don't have any of those yet but I do have a handful of Hornby Dublo catalogues also loverly items.
      Thanks again take care.
      Oscar

  • @russellbenton2987
    @russellbenton2987 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one . They certainly made max use of mouldings to deliver many different models .

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Russell, I think you spot on there, I'm not sure it could be got away with quite so blatantly today!
      Thanks again.
      Oscar

  • @POUNCEMAN1
    @POUNCEMAN1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Real Budd Train Consist which was Operated by Canadian Pacific Railways , CP Rail, ( Train # 1 The Canadian ) which travels from Toronto to Vancouver ,, is Now Owned and Operated by Via Rail ,,, Budd Coaches restored to their Original , or first class state which i used to travel across Canada many times ,,, Wonderful Video

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi thanks for the information, would love to have seen these in use. Must be a great site and sound.
      Take care.
      Oscar

  • @devilscoachman79
    @devilscoachman79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely video Oscar & Thank you! I would love for you to take a couple of minutes to show us which parts of the motor require lubricating, as I have have no idea with my models. The last time I had a go with the oiling pen I had oil spraying all over the track.
    Regards
    Kev

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Kev, glad that you enjoyed the video. I think with oil it's little and often is best if the model is used frequently, I use a very light oil like sewing machine oil.
      I will keep it in mind for a video.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @marksinthehouse1968
    @marksinthehouse1968 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn’t a similar locomotive work the north east corridor between New York and Washington DC ,you lucky man Oscar my best friend had one well it was on his dad layout in his attic great memories again for a few minutes I’m 7 in the then new West Kensington estate and its 1975 my chopper sitting in his garden wish I was back there ,cheers Oscar 👍🏻😊

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Great to hear the video brought back great memories. I have found this great video with similar-looking locomotives from the Milwaukee Road electrified sections. th-cam.com/video/9aobR7NNFk4/w-d-xo.html
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @ArcadiaJunctionModelTrains
    @ArcadiaJunctionModelTrains 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the Transcontinental range. I run the locos and coaches mixed n' match as a generic US/Canada passenger train on my layout. There is something really satisfying about their design and construction.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds great. I think they conjure up great images in the mind these rather colourful models. Just great fun.
      Oscar

  • @michael42158
    @michael42158 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's great Oscar. I had the green and orange version..

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good morning Michael great to hear you had a green and orange version a stunning looking model.
      Thanks for watching take care.
      Oscar

  • @stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682
    @stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Oscar, The diesel looks similar to an AC Gilbert American Flyer Newhaven diesel electric produced in the 50s. I don't have any of these examples, they are quite rare in Australia. And bring huge money as well. Just like the Mallard, another for my wish list. Thanks again for the production history, excellent.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Steven, American Flyer made some terrific models I wish I had the money and the space!
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

    • @stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682
      @stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarpaisley I watch Dave's American Flyer trains. His model restorations are terrific and so is his collection. Have a look.

  • @PaulinesPastimes
    @PaulinesPastimes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The coaches are really nice. A colour scheme like no other and so effective. I love that you can see the staircase in the observation car leading up to the dome on top. The locomotive is sort of like (inspired by) the Victorian Railways L class electric locomotive. Thanks for the fantasy and imagination. Cheers

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Pauline, really great to hear you enjoyed the video, others have mentioned its similarity to the Australian locomotive. I think these transcontinental models really fire the imagination.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @POUNCEMAN1
    @POUNCEMAN1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah the very rare green set ,, used to have the locomotive ,, on my bucket list again ,, only seen acouple greens in Canada , i had the only colours of the locomotive model , a wonderful performer,, i notice from the catalog ,, the coaches have the older bogies ,, never seen that before

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder if that was just for illustration purposes for the catalogue with actual production models, not being ready for artistic reference.
      All the best.
      Oscar

  • @stef.b.m.lk1902
    @stef.b.m.lk1902 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The doble ended deisel loco is based on a Victorian Railways B class locomotive. nice vid mate

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the information and taking the time to watch.
      Oscar

  • @muir8009
    @muir8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video as always, just love your enthusiasm and your remarkable ability to judge what looks great not based on needing to be a photo replica. That long shot with the electric going over the grand victorian is a real pleaser.
    On a different note when you took the roof off the double cabbed diesel it answered why triang used four roof screws: it looks like they've used the existing wiring holes and just put the threaded washers into those, whilst keeping the diesel roof screws clear for the pantagraphs as you observed. The comparison was interesting: the bodies are identical, however the pilot aprons are different though. observe the change to the little "pockets" beside the coupling. strange triang should've changed the tooling for such a minor thing I would've thought

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good evening, great to hear you enjoyed the video. You are right about the detail on the pilots I had not spotted that. All part of the fun spotting something new. It does seem odd as you say to go to that much trouble for such a minor detail.
      Thanks, again for watching.
      Oscar

  • @AllensTrains
    @AllensTrains 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for a relaxing video as the antidote to all that Covid-19 insanity which is on the television. R257 makes a good sound accelerating up the incline. It is great you have got it all working off the catenary. I have discovered you can't have two controllers operating the catenary as indicated in the Hornby manual. That's where the 'neutral' switch comes in!

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed the video.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

    • @muir8009
      @muir8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've just read your comment and you've got me thinking... if you ran one rail (say the left) on the insulated side, turned other loco around so that ones insulated side was running on the other (right) rail, with the overhead as the common return I think you could get it to work maybe?

    • @AllensTrains
      @AllensTrains 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@muir8009 Yes, I had thought that, but on the side of the box of R22918, Class 90, there is a sticker which says "Due to recent improvements to the locomotive's track power supply collectors, it is not possible to independently operate two locomotives on the same track, using two different power sources as stated in the Hornby catalogue."

  • @robinmathews2446
    @robinmathews2446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is a difference between the two that I had never noticed before... The pilot skirts attached to the bogies are not the same, Their molded detail is quite different, even though the skirt is the same shape..
    I think that the inspiration for this loco came from a Milwaukee Road "Little Joe"........ A group of locos originally built for Russia but remained in the USA..

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good morning Robin thanks for the information.
      Take care.
      Oscar

  • @clangerbasher
    @clangerbasher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen this locos in photos in contemporary literature ever since I have been interested in model railways and I have often wondered about it.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching I hope you found the video informative.
      Oscar

  • @chorlton4
    @chorlton4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The early version with orange and green was one of the most characterful locos ever made by Triang and the one I had would pull well and was very robust indeed. Amazing to think that electric locos made in this scale currently no longer operate on the overhead like the Triang (and Trix too). Have we gone backwards?

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a great livery those orange and green ones were. Maybe they should have made coaches to match that.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @barryuk676
    @barryuk676 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super video Oscar those Transcontinental carriages look really substantial but I suppose Transcontinental journeys were very long and the travellers would need comfort.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching, they do look like they would provide very luxurious travel.
      Oscar

  • @schwarzalben88
    @schwarzalben88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting video again Oscar. These coaches ended up being sold by the American company Model Power in various USA Railroad liveries. ( they were also available in Canada in CNR and CP liveries issued by Hornby

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the information and taking the time to watch.
      Oscar

  • @jonathanwilson773
    @jonathanwilson773 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos. Look forward to every new episode. How did the shunter move on the same track as the loco but the loco didn't move? Do you have an isolated section?

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jonathan, the yard switcher collects current from the track and returns to the track. The double-ended electric locomotive collects current from the overhead wire and returns to the track. Making it possible to run the two models independently of each other on the same rail. Provided two separate controllers are used that have windings that are independent of each other.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @terryblackman6217
    @terryblackman6217 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you again for a very entertaining video. It must be very time consuming cleaning the overhead pantograph wires. Also do you get any sparking from the overhead contacts when viewed in the dark. Terry

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Terry as you say cleaning is very time-consuming especially as is all so delicate and there are some impressive sparks from time to time just like those created by the drive wheels. Although very difficult to record on the iPhone.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @petersmith4455
    @petersmith4455 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video as usual.why dont they make these now.i had these as a child in the early 60s,

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good morning Peter, thanks again for watching, great to hear you had these models in childhood.
      Oscar

  • @johnd8892
    @johnd8892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oscar, From 14:06 , a very good power bogie for its time and still much to recommend it today. The list of model types using this bogie got very long as I thought about and looked up variations of this four wheeled power bogie.
    Used in the following models if you include the variations with different side frames, as Tri-ang did in the service sheets :
    R 55 Single ended Diesel from 1955 or 1956 with the introduction of this power bogie I think
    R 155 Diesel Switcher - 1957
    R 156 SR Suburban Motor Coach -1957
    R 157 Diesel Power Car (later 101 DMU) -1958
    R 159 Double Ended Diesel - 1958
    R 253 Dock Shunter - 1958
    R 257 Double Ended Diesel with operating pantographs - 1959 (as originally described in some sources and the Australian instruction leaflet coming with locomotives and sets. So a lack of knowledge at Tri-ang Moldex about what a diesel was. )
    R 450 NSW Suburban Motor Car with operating pantograph - 1960 ( a very rare semi scale Australia only production, but possibly too "suburban" to be popular even in Australia. )
    R 555 Blue Pullman Power Car - 1963
    R 753 AL1 Electric - 1964 or 1965 (After Tri-ang ditched the Hornby Dublo single axle drive unit after the 1964 Hornby-Dublo collapse and clear out)
    This is not counting many colour scheme and detail variations such as the R 353 Transcontinental version of the Dock Shunter.
    So ten body toolings used variations of this power bogie. Have I missed any?
    I think the key to it's quality is the use of ball bearings at each end of the shaft to deal with the thrust of the armature shaft and gearing. The robustness and high quality of the ball bearing design has made this such a long lasting bogie. The later Tri-ang bogies with the "bronze spider" wireless pickup, nylon axles and gears etc and no ball bearings do not give any where near as good service. Johns Amazing Trains went in to some useful detail of the problems that can occur with these late bogies and the difficulty repairing them.
    I recall the Model Railway Constructor Magazine, in the late 1970s, ran a series of articles on a very impressive large outdoor railway modelling the WCML in OO. The owner described how the Tri-ang motor bogie was the preferred bogie that he had found was up to the difficult task he had asked the models to perform with scale length trains outdoors under the overhead wiring.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi John, your right a very versatile motor unit. They definitely managed to get some mileage out of it by changing the side frames. The later motor bogies perhaps looked like a good idea at the time but as you point out have not gone on to give reliable service. The simplicity of design and use of the ball bearings make the earlier motor reliable with simple maintenance.
      Thanks for taking the time to put this list of models together.
      Oscar

  • @philipsmeeton
    @philipsmeeton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I model railways now in a variety of scales and nationalities, and use much too much money, entirely due to my fond memories of my first train set with the Triang black Princess Elizabeth R1X with grey ballasted track. I have even pre-ordered the memorial train set that celebrates this first Triang success. What was impossible to get as a child we sometimes overcompensate for later.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Philip, you might be right but its great fun.
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

  • @wardy98px1
    @wardy98px1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those diesels are very strong runners

  • @TomPrickVixen
    @TomPrickVixen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I usually do that both "bogie drive" upgrade on my old locos, even if I have to buy 3 of a similar or same model, to build one that is up to my expectations (on my class 31 I even had to cut and glue the top part, from one to the other, to mount the motor)!

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Tom and the information.
      Oscar

  • @pamelabrandist8308
    @pamelabrandist8308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I wonder if you could help with information on wire size required when using a cdu.i am using the same type of points as yourself, but my points do not seem to snap over,I think I am using a wire size 7/.2 ,but I am being told in should be at least 16amg . Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks Pam

  • @johnd8892
    @johnd8892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 5:22 you ask why a set was not made with R 257 and the green coaches. I did see such a rare but uncatalogued set in about 1967 when very young. It was in the window of Edments store facing The Causeway in Melbourne Australia. Unusual for a jewelry, crockery and cutlery shop. Not only did the set have the R 257 duo tone green electric locomotive but also one of each of the four duo tone green coaches. As well as track it had a overhead catenary set included in the box.
    I paid particular attention to this as I had aspired to have the R257 locomotive and matching coaches as my appetite had been whetted by the edition 9 catalogue from 1963 but by 1965 was crest fallen that they were no longer in the price lists. This made me want them more. You always want what you can't have. However the price displayed, while not outrageous, was too much for me to contemplate asking to be added to my collection of second hand series 2 based (both couplers and track) Tria-ang. Extra competition for spending around this time for me was 1/24th scale slot cars.
    Doubt this was a documented set but likely a result of Edments interaction with the local Tri-ang Moldex factory to get rid of slow moving expensive stock. Had never come across Edments selling trains before or since as several of the then largest outlets for trains in Melbourne were within a few hundred metres. These being the Myer department store and the Model Dockyard. The Dockyard sold Tri-ang as the cheap option as well as imported Japanese brass equipment costing ten times as much with many other makes and parts in between.
    I wonder if anyone else in Melbourne around 1966 to 1968 had come across this set?

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi John, that sounds like the set they should have made. Thanks for all this information it's great to read about your experiences. I wonder how many of these special sets were made? Have you seen the neverwazza set at this site tri-ang.weebly.com/neverwazzas.html with the single-ended diesel and a set of these green coaches?
      Thanks for watching.
      Oscar

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarpaisley Hi Oscar, Thanks for the link, although I had come across this useful and interesting resource before. A coincidence concerning the modeler who put together the neverwazza set. I have met him and discussed model railway matters with him at exhibitions in Melbourne for about 38 years. Always very helpful to me. Graeme is a very skilled modeler on the Victorian local scene and has had a major hand in many high end models covering local prototypes. Also active in Tri-ang collecting and appreciation which surprises many, given the very accurate approach he takes when scratch building local prototypes. Some of his coverage of the R159 published in the local model railway magazine may give a fuller picture than some of the comments here : www.hornbyguide.com/article_details.asp?articleid=4
      Thanks again for you time providing a Sunday video to look forward to.

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarpaisley To add to me earlier comments just now, Graeme also assisted with article on these near mythical Tri-ang Sydney Suburbans :
      www.hornbyguide.com/article_details.asp?articleid=8

  • @nickjervis8123
    @nickjervis8123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have R257. The wiring isn't that bad. I recently acquired the N2 clockwork loco as a birthday present and this prompted to look at my Triang collection again and to dig out the catenery. Perhaps you could talk about the catenery sets at some point

  • @kenmartin6457
    @kenmartin6457 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oscar, I have a similar model I can not run on the track I have tried everything. I thought the wheels were round the wrong way but still never worked. If I apply power to the engine coupling and the wires under the roof it works. I have tried everything still no pwr. Any ideas. Kind Regards Ken

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good morning Ken I think from what you describe it may be that the power selection switch on the roof that chooses between track and overhead power and no power maybe the source of the problem. Possibly broken or missing and has simply been bridged so it picks up power directly from the pantograph instead of the option for the wheels on the insulated side.
      Hope this was of some help always difficult to say for sure without seeing the model. But if the motor runs when you apply power selectively there should be a way to solve it.
      www.hornbyguide.com/service_sheet_details.asp?sheetid=175
      Stay safe
      Oscar

  • @JacobGrimaR761
    @JacobGrimaR761 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Double Ended Electric loco seems to be based of the Victorian Railways L class

  • @geoffwalker315
    @geoffwalker315 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure about USA but I recently saw similar double ended Heritage locos on a video of Denmark railways.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the information Geoff. I shall have a look, Tri-ang were clever in making there TC models with similarities to many locomotives around the world.
      Stay safe.
      Oscar

  • @milou7300a
    @milou7300a 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I like triang, I got some, but to buy parts, where can we contact ???? friendly Jacques

  • @johnd8892
    @johnd8892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Oscar. In case you might want to know more about the prototype the R159 was likely to be based on, here is some more information on the likely prototype :
    Our local Victorian Railways B class here :
    th-cam.com/video/U49NDi28OW0/w-d-xo.html (from a video covering VR locos from 1854 to about 1987) but with the Tri-ang cost saving approach of 1958 in going with the standard production 4 wheel bogie rather than develop a correct six axle power bogie. Was very a very popular model in Australia.
    A search for B74 Emd should show lots of vids of one of the preserved ones and perhaps others still in secondary service.
    The next class covered in the video is the L class double ended electric locomotive. This is the loco livery us Tri-ang minded early 60s kids wanted the R257 to have. I imagine some of the richer, senior and ambitious did a body swap so as to be more like an L class. We were largely resigned to the fact it was too unrealistic to expect a six wheel bogie. However about 50 years later we got our wish with the local Auscision L class model release. Some L class running on my club layout :
    th-cam.com/video/x-tYaaMTU28/w-d-xo.html filmed by a skilled club member.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, there's some great information in that first video, you can see why the Tri-ang model was popular despite the cost-saving practices of the time. Lovely models and footage of the club layout.
      Thanks again.
      Oscar

  • @jeffreymcneal1507
    @jeffreymcneal1507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think this answers my question, my other question is does "Continental" reference the European or Australian continent, or neither??

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was nearly always TransContinental with Tri-ang hoping to sell these largely in the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. Later a French like 2-6-2 T was sold. I think they were surprised how well Tr-ang sold in some European countries like Holland, but there were reasons.
      Least success in the USA with vast ranges of local accurate production.
      These types of R.257 electrics, although not exact models, could be seen in Australia, Holland, Spain, Brazil and later Sweden.
      Seemed to aim, with all of these, mostly at being generic so as not to put off some markets and to keep costs down using existing tooling where possible.
      Most Australian was the R.159 : th-cam.com/video/DMjouDdH7SU/w-d-xo.html
      Most New Zealand was the R.56 : th-cam.com/video/A31gLZQhTXI/w-d-xo.html Although some similar locos in some Australian states, India and South Africa.
      Canada was the R.54 : th-cam.com/video/2x1DlEFBju4/w-d-xo.html
      the R.55 : th-cam.com/video/-B7FXG_5Ih8/w-d-xo.html
      and later a near scale R.352 : th-cam.com/video/E4jQzvEdq_4/w-d-xo.html
      The only ones labelled as Continental and most French was the R.653 : th-cam.com/video/TukIPrTQ73g/w-d-xo.html
      and : th-cam.com/video/lJTXTaUAY8s/w-d-xo.html
      After the 1965 takeover of Hornby, Tri-ang owned Hornby-Acho so inherited a large range of accurate French models.
      Most of the Transcontinental rolling stock and coaches had a Canadian flavour.
      Some outdated tooling was purchased by a company in India for local production after correspondence lasting years.

  • @lanawallace8776
    @lanawallace8776 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does British o or oo gauge compare with NA ho gauge?

    • @lisalewis9237
      @lisalewis9237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Lana,
      They share the same track gauge. OO scale models are just slightly larger than our HO in the states. HO is 1:87 scale and OO scale is 1:76.2 scale inches to the foot.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HO_scale and OO scale en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OO_gauge OO scale is pretty much a Britain only thing. Lisa

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A common problem arising from calling the same gauge two different names. Gauge is the same but scales are different. From 1:33 on the top right of the catalogue you may be able to see that even back in 1959 the Triang label on nearly all their railway products used to say 00/HO gauge to emphasise that the gauge is the same. Still causes confusion today when people say OO gauge when they mean OO scale as the difference between OO and HO.

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Lana, thanks to Lisa and John for explaining and answering your question very well.
      Oscar

  • @marshall8289
    @marshall8289 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it not a Victorian Railways B Class loco, B72-B76 ? It looks almost identical.

  • @CW56
    @CW56 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What locomotive isis?

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi don't think this model really represents any particular prototype, but from what I've read it has a passing resemblance to locomotives built by General Electric in America in the 1940-50s.
      Oscar

  • @Steven_Rowe
    @Steven_Rowe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oscar the blind livered transcontinental diesel was. Based on the Victorian S class locos .
    However the Victorians railways also had L class electric locos which looked similar.
    For you edification here is a link to them
    th-cam.com/video/IOEtbGcWoos/w-d-xo.html

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Steven, thanks for the link. It's a terrific video.
      Oscar

  • @lisalewis9237
    @lisalewis9237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Oscar,
    I've mentioned in another video some of the Tri-ang "Never Made" models. Those Duo-Tone green coaches look exactly like the Canadian National Railway's early paint scheme. Shame Tri-ang never offered those coaches with a single ended TC diesel in CNR two tone green colors. tri-ang.weebly.com/neverwazzas.html Even a R.55 with "Transcontinental" in duo-tone green would have been an interesting variation. I did find a picture of the Tri-ang green oil tanker car, www.hampshiremodels.co.uk/products/triang-r117-oo-gauge-bogie-oil-tanker-shell-green A very impressive looking model. Shame it's so hard to find one though. Lisa

    • @oscarpaisley
      @oscarpaisley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Lisa, There are some great neverwazzas to be found made by some very talented modellers. I am thinking as 3D printing/scanning gets to the next level of resolution there's going to be great scope for many more of them.
      Thanks for watching
      Oscar

    • @lisalewis9237
      @lisalewis9237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarpaisley Hi Oscar,
      Funny you should mention the use of 3D Printing technology. I've been looking into creating a set of coaches for the Tri-ang TC range to fill a void. Surprisingly, it wouldn't be that difficult to make a set of models. The only issues I've run against is figuring out the riveting for the bogies and the metal inserts for the screws in the roof. Both of which I think I have come up with solutions for. It's too bad injection molding tooling starts at $16,000 and goes up to near $80,000. It's no wonder companies are reluctant to bring new models into their ranges. It's a large investment in tooling that might not pay off in the end. Lisa