Is The Doxa 300T Still Worth The Hype ?
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Even with it’s faults, it’s still on my must have list and I agree the bracelet is definitely the way to go. Thanks for the great review.
Thanks JJ, I used to want one myself and even came close to buying one online, but after handling this one I cant say I want one anymore
The search for a dive watch is exhaustive, but the 300t is my leading contender. Eliminated Bremont, Breitling, and Ulysse Nardin. This is simply the coolest looking one of the lot bar none.
Have you checked out the Sinn U50 Patrick ?
One of the best divers in the market. Historically it's the first watch with a helium escape valve. Jacques-Yves Cousteau wore this watch and also helped with the disign. Orange is the most legible colour under water. The bezel also indicates the decompression limits. It doesn't get more professional than that. Yes, I agree that you can get a diving watch with better specs at the 2000 dollar price point. But if you are a diving watch enthusiast it doesn't get any better than this. Definitely top 5.
True its got lots of history Nick 👍🏻 But its just a shame they used a lower spec SW200 movement were as others use top grade SW200 which perform much better on the timegrapher
@@ClickSpringReview I agree. DOXA added the better movement in the wrong watch. The plain DOXA 300 has a COSC certified movement but has a much smaller depth rate (300m), no helium valve and it's priced above the 300T. Wrong decision. It was probably done to keep the price down.
@@NickNick-id8sb If you follow the channel Nick you may know I do a lot of Sinn videos ,They only fit top grade SW200 movements even in there base model £1100 556 .
Its crazy the 300 T doesn't have this
@@ClickSpringReview I've seen many of your videos. I love Sinn. Swiss watch brands like cutting corners because they have the privilege of being Swiss. Everybody loves a little story around their watches. I agree with you. The best deals usually come from German watches and Sinn is the leader. On the downside the Sinn watch I love the most, the EZM 1.1 S isn't available being strictly limited. Best value for money choices period.
I would love the white face with a watch steward strap.
How would you compare it to the sinn UX?
Always hard to compare an auto to a quartz , I've not a fan of the Doxa myself so I'd go for the UX or even better a U50 Dillon
I have a 50th anniversary sub 300 slim case searambler and it is beautiful
Thats a nice one you have there Logan
Just bought one at your recommendation and also at Francis and Gaye - Ryan was out but helped by Ben and Cherri
Excellent Sir they are super helpful plus know there stuff , I hope you enjoy the watch 👍🏻
@@ClickSpringReview can't wait til next week 😊
Hey click spring reviews. Would you go for a tissot seastar 2000 or a doxa 200 (or perhaps a doxa 300t)?
Hi Rocket between the 2 I'd say the Tissot but they are very different watches when it comes to size , if you like a smaller watch the Sinn 556 is worth checking it has a top grade SW200 which isnt the same as the SW200 you find in a Doxa or even , Longines HydoConquest , Certani DS , Hamilton Frogman , Sinn 104 , Zodiac Super Sea Wolf . Let me know what you think ps are you in the UK ?
@@ClickSpringReview hey man thanks for your answer. I looked at the sinn before but they’re out of my budget (around 1300€) I’ve looked at many watches and came to the conclusion that the tissot seastar 2000 is my favourite. Do you have any other solutions that match my budget that are even better? I’m looking for a true dive tool watch. (Ps: I’m in the Netherlands) thanks man!
@@rocket_v My favourite at around that price would be the Laco th-cam.com/video/p5InSgMxRWc/w-d-xo.html
Have the 300 and 300T. Both comfortable watches. Only issue which worries me and I’ll have to check sometime is my 300T doesn’t have a helium release valve? It is only about 18 months old from a UK authorised dealer.
The 300 doesn’t either but it has a lower depth rating. A comparison of the 300 and 300T is worth doing. The former is perhaps a more versatile watch for every day wear. More of a desk diver than a serious tool watch.
Hi Ken the T model should have a helium release valve Sir , out of interest which colour did you go for ?
@@ClickSpringReview Blue dial. Back states 300T 50th anniversary edition
@@ClickSpringReview you are incorrect. The earlier release “anniversary” 300T models did NOT have a HRV. The newer ones from the last couple of years do.
@@whereRbearsTeeth fair play J B and cheers for the info I’m not a Doxa expert to be fair, I only just found out to that they don’t use Top Grade SW200 movement
@@ClickSpringReview My 300T has the ETA 2824. I bought it just before Doxa switched over to sellita. It has run consistently +4.5 every day since new. If regulated properly, the sw200 can keep very good time and is a rock solid, dependable movement that is easy to have serviced.
I need on of this on my wrist!
I was so hoping to like this watch but it just didn't do it for me
@@ClickSpringReview Really? Why?
@@panchoskywalker hard to say but it just didn't feel special plus I can't get passed its small tiny dial
Only wish there was a tapered bracelet option. Too chunky for me
Interesting point Tyannick
I do enjoy your channel and thank you for the vid but I think the review would have benefited from some more constructive criticism of the piece. You mention in another comment that the watch doesn’t interest you- perhaps the review could have explored why not. Though I have not handled the watch in person, the bracelet has a clunky appearance and there is poor articulation from the end links. Also, as an aside, Doxa is not the same company of old, the intellectual property was simply sold on to a series of new owners that have at various times exercised the right to make “Doxa” watches.
That’s a fair comment Nick and you do have a point 👍🏻
The modern Doxas are rock solid. They are no doubt built even better than their original predecessors.
That is the newer 300, I still prefer the slightly domed crystal of the older model. Still they're excellent divers👍
I have the newer COSC spec review coming ok soon 👍🏻
Incorrect. It’s a 300T, not a 300. 300 has a domed crystal, no HRV, 300m WR, different clasp, and COSC certification.
I tried the both on the other day, the bracelet and clasp on the 300t are far superior.
Yes.
I like the watch in photos but in person I just find the 28mm dial to small when compared to the case size , you can buy a tiny 33mm watch with a bigger dial than the Doxa
so you dont see problem with end links - not bending corecctly aroud wrist..
and very bi clasp?
And Selita insread of Eta?
Hi Ziemek ,
The end links I don't mind as they do angle down and as the lug to lug size is less then 45mm they work well and you can see it sits on my wrist very well ,
The clasp is long but being the watch is 42.5mm its not so much of a problem but if the watch was any smaller then that I'd see it differently,
The SW200-1 movement performance wise is no difference to the ETA 2824 in fact the Selita has one extra jewel fitted to the mainspring barrel upper which is a plus in my eyes , the only problem I have is they only use the Elabore grade and not Top grade in this one its ok but in other Doxa's I've tested its not been.
Hope this answers your question
@@ClickSpringReview Thank you
Also - Helium Valve is badly close to upper part of cushion - way too close looks as mistake...
Andlinks not drilled...
overall - good to admit its a rip off - nevertheles we want it.
Doxa already had a perfect end link design with full articulation on the 1200T which uses the exact same case as the modern 300T. I will never, in a million years, understand what they were thinking when they decided to make the end links on the 300T rigid and significantly increase the lug-to-lug width. It boggles the mind how poor the design of the 300T end links are.
I'm really not a fan of the watch which is a shame as I always wanted one unit I got to review it
I do like it but it seems less elegant on the wrist than another large diver, the MM300.
I'd take the MM300 over the Doxa any day of the week BUT the Seiko costs £1000 more ;)
You can easily pick up the Seiko mm300 for a similar price with a bit of research. I have owned the sbdx017 (paid £1300 in 2017) and more recently the SLA23 with the blue dial (£1800) in Feb this year- both were new and had a fantastic movement, case finishing and overall feel.
@@manuel_winde I was lucky and got my SLA023 even cheaper and out the two I’d take the Seiko over the Doxa any day of the week far better case finishing and the movement is better also
@@ClickSpringReview 🤣you’re delusional
I have both watches. MM300 has much better lume and a better movement. Doxa is more comfortable to wear. The mm300 is slightly top heavy. Doxa is much easier to service due to the popular movement and a presence of a screw-down case back (mm300 is a monoblock). Doxa has also more contrast and the black hands are very fast to read.
If you're one of those that wants a colourful summer watch, but an original design that doesn't copy other divers on the market. Nothing else qualifies more than Doxa.
Its a classic watch thats for sure with loads of history to its name 👍🏻
I disagree with wishing the dial was bigger. The fact that the dial is smaller lets it wear to the eyes closer to a 40mm which I like.
The dial is the same size as that of a 34mm day date not even close to 40mm watch Sir
You're right, it definitely does have a unique identity, certainly not perfect but still seriously cool. Wish they'd brush the sides though, I mean it is a diver after all.
You very right Mr BW some brush work would help as there is just to much bling going on for my taste
@@ClickSpringReview Ahh but a Doxa is meant to be 'brushed and scuffed' by the owner over time. Doxa are one of the few brands that scratches are actually a desired feature. Only had mine a year and its slowly picking up some nice scratches. Needs a lot more.
@@jabezhane I agree 💯. It’s one of the few watches out there that looks better with scratches. That’s one reason why I love wearing mine so much. I have watches that cost many multiples more than my Doxa. But the Doxa I strap to my wrist and just wear it worry free.
Nothing looks better scratched-up. I've never understood that mentality.
Proper bit ok kit
Its a pretty hardcore model for sure
Love the look of Doxa, but for me let down by todays standard low power reserve 38 hours is rubbish, and no mention of antimagnetic movement parts like Certina or Tissot. My Seastar 2000 has a 80 hours power reserve and a antimagnetic hairspring. Mine is running at a insane 0.7 SPD which is mind blowing, I wish Doxa would up the game with the movement, I might just buy one.
Did you do what makes the Tissot anti magnetic, it’s because they use plastic for the escape wheel and pallet fork 😣, I’m not a fan of the Doxa but I do prefer the SW200 myself as it has the same sweeping action of an Rolex so 8 beats per second vs that of the 6 beat of the power matic 80, I only need the watch to last over night if I’m not wearing Alan. .7 is very impressive though 👍🏻
@@ClickSpringReview There's been some misconception that this movement is both not serviceable and contains "plastic" parts. In fact, the pallet fork and escape wheel are made of a synthetic material, all serviceable and very reliable being around since 2013.
Only by Tissot themselves , I can't service them or other independent so it means your going to have to deal with them directly as they have you over a barrel, its worth watching this Alan th-cam.com/video/0VKoZ_Bdd7M/w-d-xo.html (4:05)
@@ClickSpringReview Not a problem, if you have to send back to Tissot, they can be serviced that's the point im making, agree not all independent watch makers can I understand that, its the same as they cannot service a spring drive movement. I saw the video you highlighted in question, and to be honest I thought he was an idiot, full of himself saying chuck it, what a plonker. Its because he cannot service it, does not meanest rubbish. I know people that have had their watches a decade Powermatic 80 with no problems, running well within COSC.
@@alanrogers6885 I like the option of being able to have it serviced where ever you want Alan , The guy in the video runs one of the top horology schools and service center’s in the Netherlands. the plastic escapement parts I believe can be replaced with metal ones which can be found in the Hamilton models (H10) but that would add about £100 plus to the price of the movement 👍🏻
Just to correct you, the movement is an ETA 2824
I believe they used to be about 4 years ago but the new 300T uses the SW200-1 according to Hidinkee Sir but I could be wrong
Get a Seestern V3, it's a great homage at 1/11th of the price.
Its true but they are just a copy and have a Seiko movement which beats at only 6 and not 8 beat per second like the original with its Swiss movement, I guess you could say the same with any watch brand, why have a Rolex when you can have one of their copies of ones . I understand if you cant afford the original but then you can get some very cool watches for 200/300 like offering from Obis Morgan, Seiko , Citizen or even Vostok Watches
Junk
@@ClickSpringReview I confess, I’ve always loved the Doxa design, but just can’t afford one. So, I’m getting the Seestern. Incidentally, I almost consider the SW-200 in the Doxa, to be on par with the NH35 in the Seestern. Both are solid workhorse movements.
@@clontstable1 On a large seconds hand watch I do prefer 8 beats over 6 . When you strip one down the SW200 or 2824 is beautiful were the NH35 you just bin it and get a new one Mikey
It's such a quirky watch I wish I could try before I buy
To be fair I always wanted one but I when I got to try one on I found its just not for me
Classic
Yep it sure is OB
Worth the hype if you don't mind its parts are made in China, not really a Swiss Made watch.
Many brands use parts made in China as its just so much affordable, I have no problem with that but when they are custom made part , In fairness to Doxa it is a true Swiss movement the SW200 even if it is a lower grade
@@IDKline Thats is true 👍🏻
Seestern incoming. There is no hype in the Doxa 300t, only the price.
The 27mm dial and Elabore grade movement put me off
Beautiful and desirable, but hugely overpriced in my opinion.
In all fairness I’d say the £2.4k isn’t that over the top plus I dare say you’ll get a discount
@@ClickSpringReview True. Just grouchy, I guess. The real problem is that I live in Canada and cannot get it a reasonable price. Import duties into Canada are exorbitant.
How is it overpriced? What other 1200 meter professional diver with a HRV do you know of for less than $2k?
Is it just me or does this look very similar to a Vostok amphibia
Both watches were first introduced back 67 the 300 has got some rich history to it Sir
It’s just you
Doxa! Assembled in Switzerland from parts made in China! Crap in usually means crap out.
That’s a bit harsh 😁
DOXA doesn't even call itself a watch company it's just a badge, for good or bad.
I cant say I'm that impressed with the brand after reviewing 3 of there watches , I'm not saying there bad but where the hype comes from I have no idea Toamasina
@@ClickSpringReview I wouldn't say the Sub 300 or 300T are bad, nor would I say that about the others but things like the SUG300 "Carbon" are at over twice the price which should be down at the DOXA 200 levels because although it's cute it's pure hype around the cost of it so-called development and machining which is in China and used on watches going for 1/50th the cost DOXA "hypes" is like was carbon nanotubes. I've always loved the look of the DOXA Subs since since Three Days Of The Condor, but it's really a fashion brand, not a watch maker. I mean look at the silly 19mm lug-width and the silly cost cutting on the DOXA 200's, it's worse than Alpha or certainly TIMEX.
Sub300T at 1890 nah
Sub300T at 980 hell yes
It didn’t rock my boat to be fair JK
980 would be a killer.
doxa made of chinese parts facts very few swiss watches are 100% swiss
I have no problem with that but at this price I would expect top grade SW200 movement
I been buying vintage I know they are swiss made.
Be prepared to cost in a price of a service which is about 300/500 and make you tell them only to use Swiss parts in that case as many don't , The only tin clasp was Swiss but the new adjustment one is made in china
A Sellita movement in a Doxa?
Wow , are they already cutting costs?
I have the 1200 T professional and when I bought it three years ago they where using the top grade ETA 2824 movement.
That tells me that since Rick Marei left Doxa, the company is going south again.
To bad.....!
I don't mind the SW200 after all its a clone of the ETA but has one 1 extra jewel over the the 2824.
ETA has stopped supplying there movement to many 3rd party's brands but they don't use Top Grade only Special (Elabore) grade Frank
@@whereRbearsTeeth Come JB on no need for that mate let’s keep it friendly on here mate , I do agree the SW200 is no down grade
As far as I'm aware, they are still using an ETA 2824-2 in the Sub 300T.
What’s in a name? ETA 2824 = SW-200
@@clontstable1 ?????
with that noisy bracelet. nope!
I wouldn't buy it either but not just because of the bracelet
@@ClickSpringReview so , why wouldn't you buy the Doxa? Is it only the T300 you wouldn't buy?
@@frankschroth4038 Hi Frank, I've reviewed 3 different models now from them and they do have a unique look to them which I like but they just don't feel as good as other watches at the price range , 600T model the bracelet is very poor at that price mark the dial left me wanting more , 300T I find the dial is just so tiny when compared to the case size and the bracelet isn't as flexible as it could be say I do feel the watch could be better if there was more brush work to the bezel and case , BUT this is only my opinion Sir
LMAO, what hype?
The 300T has a massive fan base , I cant say I'm a fan myself
@@ClickSpringReview So am I, but huge? Its more of an obscure Niche Fan base
Really pathetic lume this watch has
Its ok but there is better out there thats true 👍🏻
In one of the Dirk Pitt books the lume on his Doxa helps him avoid drowning, I guess if he had one of the newer models he would just be 🪦