How ancient Herculaneum papyrus scrolls were deciphered

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  • @swthelostarchives
    @swthelostarchives 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    The progress of Ai is insane! This is a great use for it

    • @dhm7815
      @dhm7815 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      AI is usually a buzzword for computer programming. The programs here do not reprogram themselves or each other, that is, rethink their own or others logic.

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    would love to see a full documentary on this...hope its being made by someone. PS - frustrated by how everything is labelled AI these days...even if it is not the core software

  • @redbarchetta8782
    @redbarchetta8782 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I've been following this and man, what an amazing thing to witness. We might be seeing unknown works from some of the greatest in Western thinkers.

  • @sftommy01
    @sftommy01 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    How many other libraries still lay carbonized and buried in Herculaneum ?
    Where one rich man had a library, his friends and competitors are likely to have had theirs

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      So far only part of the top floor of the library supposedly collected by L Calpurnius Piso has been recovered. Those scrolls are all in Greek, so it is presumed that the floor below holds his Latin scrolls.

    • @JohnSmith-en6ev
      @JohnSmith-en6ev 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe it's all greek 😂

  • @Caligulashorse1453
    @Caligulashorse1453 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is super exciting! I’ve been keeping up with this project I’m both a historian and theology nerd I can’t wait to see what else they find especially with older religious text

  • @lindaj5492
    @lindaj5492 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank goodness for the people in this project who caught the ‘science & computing bug’ and have been able to pursue their passion!

  • @Stopcolonizinglebanon
    @Stopcolonizinglebanon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Hopefully this will include Aristotle's lost works
    What an incredible project. Im inspired.😮😮

    • @FloatingOer
      @FloatingOer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hopefully one or two works from the "Epic Cycle" can be found as well, as only the Iliad and Odyssey (2/8) have survived till modern age

  • @DreadPyriteBob
    @DreadPyriteBob 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bro I have been waiting for them to do this for years!!! The hype is real!!

  • @mafarmerga
    @mafarmerga 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    this is F'ing amazing.
    And I have spent a career in imaging and image processing.

  • @colorbugoriginals4457
    @colorbugoriginals4457 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I usually insist that tech that seems impossible is coming...but I did not see this one happening. I'd have called this impossible and I'd have been wrong. So incredible, please keep up the good work. 😮

  • @michaelcapeless3268
    @michaelcapeless3268 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not enough detail - but thanks for this - I'd like to know more about how the "scan" was conducted.

    • @lanaecall921
      @lanaecall921 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So what does it say?.

  • @susanne5803
    @susanne5803 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is breathtaking!

  • @stevefranklin9176
    @stevefranklin9176 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congratulations absolutely astounding work.

  • @stefanigarcia87
    @stefanigarcia87 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Estou fascinada! É incrível!

  • @wernerkrautler8668
    @wernerkrautler8668 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    still unbelievable. great job done.

  • @georgekraus9357
    @georgekraus9357 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His technology is actually extremely useful for medical imaging, allowing radiologists to see organs and bones in 3D !!!

  • @lindaj5492
    @lindaj5492 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Diamond Light Source is an amazing place to visit, if they’re still doing open days! High security place so you’d need to book well in advance.

  • @AlaskaJiuJitsu
    @AlaskaJiuJitsu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hope all translations are released immediately and I pray that the ancient texts from all institutions- from the Vatican to the Smithsonian be translated and released immediately as well. 🙏

  • @horror11
    @horror11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this are byzantine greek letters not koine greek .
    at the time pompei was buried koine greek was used , especially if this texts are older texts from ancient greek.
    the C in porfyrack is the latinised replacement of the greek letter Σ and the omega in the lower word is the replacement for the koine greek letter Ω.
    this byzantine greek letters was not in use before 4th century ad which indicates that pompei was buried at least several centuries later than the official version.

  • @Wallyworld30
    @Wallyworld30 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If they can bring back a single lost book from antiquity this will be incredible. Imagine if they find and decipher Ptolemies Biography of Alexander the great. We'd have our first "Firsthand account" of Alexander's campaigns! We know they existed because later Historians cited Ptolemies book as a source.

    • @andrefilipe9042
      @andrefilipe9042 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh boy imagine if we find a Etruscan dictionary?

  • @atrocitasinterfector
    @atrocitasinterfector 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hopefully we can do this to find the neural correlates of specific conscious states

  • @marmieRH
    @marmieRH 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What does it say on these scrolls?

  • @vaxxedfilms7477
    @vaxxedfilms7477 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant, congrats and thanks

  • @cristinabutasimon9159
    @cristinabutasimon9159 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So, if they were deciphered what do they say?
    Some people are more thrilled to know the content than the technology used to read them.

    • @juliettelynne5861
      @juliettelynne5861 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Couldn’t they give us at least two words?

    • @houseplant1016
      @houseplant1016 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​​@@juliettelynne5861They are the rolls of Philedomos of Gadara. Till now, they discovered the (possible, they're gonna check if it's true) real place where Plato is burried and corrected a few mistakes about his life that we saw as a fact. And it also contains him complaining about a foreign artist playing his music in thrace. And that's just 1/3!

    • @ValidatingUsername
      @ValidatingUsername 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are claims and two papers circulating that “lead” likely intentionally introduced into the ink has allowed some sections to be interpolated and then run through an AI translator as well.

    • @LoverSlayer
      @LoverSlayer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@houseplant1016 where can we read them?

  • @reneharkamp4309
    @reneharkamp4309 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amsterdam,
    Deeply impressed 😊

  • @LUCKO2022
    @LUCKO2022 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How?
    I don't understand how it is readable without unwrapping it.
    How are they seeking the ink??

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      While not really explained in this video I'm assuming it's similar to an MRI scan. The ink would have a different chemical composition to the papyrus, or perhaps just a higher density, and with a high resolution scan they would be able to separate each layer to digitally unroll it. I would be interested to see a more detailed explanation of the scanning process though.

    • @lindaj5492
      @lindaj5492 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @WaterShowsProd Diamond Light Source has lots of info on its website about how it works.

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. @@lindaj5492

  • @matthewgilmore4307
    @matthewgilmore4307 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic!

  • @ChrisCoombes
    @ChrisCoombes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know only 3 minutes but I was hoping for a bit more explanation of the steps involved.

  • @ericsonhazeltine5064
    @ericsonhazeltine5064 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So tell us what was written.

  • @fayekalantzis4523
    @fayekalantzis4523 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its in greek
    Needs to be translated by AI
    Rosetta stone
    I can't help but wonder if the people who paid the grant expected the scholar to produce a biased work.
    I could read some of it and it wasnt the same as the translation i read .
    Im just saying

  • @kevinbyrne4538
    @kevinbyrne4538 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The findings were terribly disappointing:
    Butcher: 1 1/2 libra sausage
    Baker: 2 loaves bread
    1/2 libra cheese ...

  • @NoahSpurrier
    @NoahSpurrier 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing

  • @dreamerworld1495
    @dreamerworld1495 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what they say? I do not read greek. can they be gentle with those who do not speak or recognize the language and at least translate a bit?

  • @d1agram4
    @d1agram4 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nothing on what the scrolls said?

    • @philippedurbecq2419
      @philippedurbecq2419 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Les premiers passages d’un texte lisible révèlent des réflexions inédites d’un philosophe grec sur l’effet de la musique sur celui qui l’écoute, des plaisirs du goût et de la vue.

  • @IbnBahtuta
    @IbnBahtuta 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let's hope it isn't full of ways to read the entrails of goats.

  • @elcasho
    @elcasho 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Smart people

  • @seanrowshandel1680
    @seanrowshandel1680 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No need for a video about this. It's obvious. Everyone knows what you did [already] Just Because you wrote the headline in adherence to standard protocol.

  • @AlexTRat
    @AlexTRat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A brilliant testimony to science, imaging software and collaborative computing. But what a poorly made and disjointed short video - surely you can do better than this?

  • @georgiosgusos9919
    @georgiosgusos9919 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ...the writting is greek...and the city s name was heraklia...!!

  • @Am-ih5nf
    @Am-ih5nf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Give us the full translated text or its bologna clickbait

  • @JukeBoxDestroyer
    @JukeBoxDestroyer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you, white people

  • @midlifemotox
    @midlifemotox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deciphered into the same old meaningless nonsense as the Bible. If not,, why aren't we hearing about the context.?? Amazing technology.. However.