I have a 97 trans am . You can repin your factory harness to a gm p01 pcm connector (most people call it a 411 pcm) you can get them pretty cheap from a wrecking yard from like a 2001 express van. You use the low reference from the opti for cam sensor and the crank sensor for crank reference instead of opti. Hptuners can program that pcm. All together I'm in it for like 200 dollars 96-97 have a 4x crank trigger. If you have an earlier lt1 your gonna need to get a front cover and trigger wheel from one.
Great info ... wanted to mention another option if you have a good optispark is an LTCC system .. or if you are really handy you can convert to 411pcm using a 96-up cover and relutor wheel.. this converts it to a batch fire system with no need for a rear distributor ....
I am running the Dyna Spark and the LTCC on my 93 40th Convertible 383, AFR, Edlbrock intake, Procharged, Volvo electric PS, Electric water pump riding on a complete RideTech coilover system.
I have a torqhead 24x kit just waiting for me to get some time to do trick flow heads, cam, roller rockers, etc. About to really wake this thing up. Can’t wait to be able to tune my own car finally
That should be a great working car when you get it finished. When you get everything done and start tuning if you get the chance come back and let us know how easy it is to tune with the torqhead setup and if you had any issues. Thanks for watching and commenting we really appreciate it.
so here’s the thing: my understanding and research would the most cost effective to be get a some what name brand opti, open it up, lock tite every bolt and rtv seal it… then also get an electric water pump which eliminates the weep hole on the mechanical ones that drip onto the opti!
Yes that would work.I don't think an electric water pump is needed though.There are videos on TH-cam showing how to add venting to the non vented Opti sparks.Thats the biggest thing is getting ventilation to the non vented optispark.The air flow will pull the moisture out which is the biggest cause of failures.
You know instead of going and spending a ton on trying to put and electric waterpump on you can just tap the weep hole and put a barbed fitting and run a hose
Yeah I think it is a good product.They installed one on a C4 Corvette a while back on Legit street car.If you have a 97 you may not have too many issues anyways.I think it was the 93-94 that had most of the problems
@@LSxMotorsports2021 oh ok thats good to hear yea I have the 97 30th z28 red and black with a aftermarket ss hood. It's stock with just a k&n air intake
The best indicator is a rough or choppy idle which is almost impossible to tune it out.Just search for Cammed Camaro on TH-cam and listen to the videos to see if yours sounds similar.The bigger the cam the more choppy it will sound.I have videos on our channel of my camaro idling which has a small cam.Just check out several videos of cammed cars and compare their sound to yours.If your having trouble with stalling then it is either tuned wrong or there is a problem somewhere.
Im going to delete my opti spark for a Torque head 24x or EFI connection. For now i use the MSD lt1 distributor and when it fails i get it repaired instead of throwing it away. They fail just like others do but its the only one that lets me drive home when it starts failing.
93-97 cars are not that desirable because of optispark issues. I should know my 94 firebird has been off the road the past 8 years due to three bad optisparks.all the aftermarket optisparks are somewhat sketchy. Also gen 2 lt1 engines are a pain in the ass to work on especially in the f body. Recently i been trying to get in touch with Torqhead to buy one of their kits all i get is thier voice mail.
Great like I said I been trying to get one of their kits . I call their number and all I get is " leave a message and we'll get back to you. This has been going on for the past six months what did you do to get one of their kits?
I sent an e-mail with a bunch of questions and he answered about 3days later. It does say it will be 3-4 weeks after ordering before it gets shipped out. But once we get it I will post a picture on the channel and probably not long after that we will have a video. The owner of the Z28 is pretty anxious to get this installed. I am anxious to see if it can be tuned as simple as my LS1 Camaro.
@LSxMotorsports2021 well like said I left a ton of emails to his site and gave them my email alddress and phone number. I too want to get one of these kits ,just having a hell of a time trying to get hold of them. I don't have the money or time to do LS swap
Well we will let you know how it turns out. You never know maybe we will never get it. I hope that's not the case but it will definitely end up on the channel if we don't get it and have to fight to get our money back. Not sure why you're not getting a response. This will be the first time ever dealing with this company so I can't say anything good or bad about them although it is irresponsible not to answer a potential customer.
Optispark 92 and 93 have some weird drive thing. The newer ones use a different pin to use it. You can probably change the timing chain cover and all that to a 94 and up style and then do the install
A waste of money if you ask me. Also you still need the opti because of the crank sensor. Nothing wrong with the opti if installed and maintained carefully
@LSxMotorsports2021 apart from just pointing that out, I'm thinking my opti needs replacing at this point. I'm considering a Summit, which I think are actually AC Delco and/or Delphi. I'm not sure I want to go with a different pcm just yet. Unless it's bad too! 😜
The best one to use is the factory fitted original unit (not the AC Delco replacement) followed straight up by the Petris. MSD is shit, and fails for the same reason as all the cheap ones do, the sensor dies from heat. I've used loads of Petris units and never had a single one fail. The original factory units also don't fail, a simple clean out and new cap and rotor, they always work. You can use the MSD cap and rotor kit on the earlier spline drive and this adds the venting. My factory original lasted 29 years and was still working fine when i removed it. I've seen a fair few non vented units go well over 100,000 miles without being touched. Corvettes had LT1s from 92-96.
I've got 2 95 vettes. Replaced both optis with petris units. One has 20 thousand miles and the other 15 thousand trouble free miles. not a single hiccup. I locktite the rotor screws and seal the cap up with silicone. I also never drive in rain. Never spray the inside of my engine bay or go through a car wash that shoots water underneath.
Sorry to hear that.It does happen especially on the earlier cars that don't have the venting.If the car is in really good condition you may want to get an upgraded version.But if your on a budget you could get a stock replacement and convert it to a vented Opti.There are videos here on TH-cam that show how to do it.It doesn't completely solve the Opti problem but it can prolong the life of it.
@@LSxMotorsports2021 I'm getting my MSD distributor back and for $250 MSD installs a new cap and rotor, new MSD opti spark sensor, bearings and includes shipping. The benefit I get from the MSD units is that I'm able to drive home when it fails. I'll eventually upgrade to the Torque Head when I build a 383.
That's great that MSD stands behind their Opti spark.We just installed a torque head on a 94 Camaro and it was pretty pricey. We ran into a problem that I hope we get fixed in the next day or two. Waiting for a part but I will explain in the video what went wrong. But I was able to download the tune from the new PCM that came with the torqhead and I am pleased to say it is going to be very easy to tune it with HP tuners.
I have a 97 trans am . You can repin your factory harness to a gm p01 pcm connector (most people call it a 411 pcm) you can get them pretty cheap from a wrecking yard from like a 2001 express van. You use the low reference from the opti for cam sensor and the crank sensor for crank reference instead of opti.
Hptuners can program that pcm. All together I'm in it for like 200 dollars
96-97 have a 4x crank trigger. If you have an earlier lt1 your gonna need to get a front cover and trigger wheel from one.
Great info.Thanks.
Thank you 🙏 got a 94 I wanna swap
Great info ... wanted to mention another option if you have a good optispark is an LTCC system .. or if you are really handy you can convert to 411pcm using a 96-up cover and relutor wheel.. this converts it to a batch fire system with no need for a rear distributor ....
Thanks for the info.Seems like there is alot options available for these cars.
Please keep making these videos on these f body camaros!! Very informative 👌🏽👌🏽
I hope to make many more and try to make them better.Thanks for watching and leaving us a comment we really do appreciate it.
I went to torqhead. I love it. It was a easy install plus made my 94 obd2
Yes It is a good system. Makes it much easier to tune.
I am running the Dyna Spark and the LTCC on my 93 40th Convertible 383, AFR, Edlbrock intake, Procharged, Volvo electric PS, Electric water pump riding on a complete RideTech coilover system.
Sounds like a bad ass car 👍
I have a torqhead 24x kit just waiting for me to get some time to do trick flow heads, cam, roller rockers, etc. About to really wake this thing up. Can’t wait to be able to tune my own car finally
That should be a great working car when you get it finished. When you get everything done and start tuning if you get the chance come back and let us know how easy it is to tune with the torqhead setup and if you had any issues. Thanks for watching and commenting we really appreciate it.
The Factory GM Opti spark units with the Mitsubishi sensor are the best units for LT1 or LT4 engines
so here’s the thing: my understanding and research would the most cost effective to be get a some what name brand opti, open it up, lock tite every bolt and rtv seal it… then also get an electric water pump which eliminates the weep hole on the mechanical ones that drip onto the opti!
Yes that would work.I don't think an electric water pump is needed though.There are videos on TH-cam showing how to add venting to the non vented Opti sparks.Thats the biggest thing is getting ventilation to the non vented optispark.The air flow will pull the moisture out which is the biggest cause of failures.
You know instead of going and spending a ton on trying to put and electric waterpump on you can just tap the weep hole and put a barbed fitting and run a hose
I do you know if its a fuel pump fuel filter, or opti sparks
Does the petris work on the 97
Yes they make both the spine drive for the 93-94 Fbody and the Pin drive for the 95-97 Fbody.
@@LSxMotorsports2021 oh ok thank you in glad I found this video it's good to know a good product I can use if my opti ever goes bad
Yeah I think it is a good product.They installed one on a C4 Corvette a while back on Legit street car.If you have a 97 you may not have too many issues anyways.I think it was the 93-94 that had most of the problems
@@LSxMotorsports2021 oh ok thats good to hear yea I have the 97 30th z28 red and black with a aftermarket ss hood. It's stock with just a k&n air intake
Great car.The SS hoods on these cars look awesome.Definetly the best looking of the 4th gen Camaros.
any way you could tell me how i could check if my motor has a cam in it, without tearing it apart?
lt1 by the way. bought off a dude and swapped it but it runs “rough” and everything’s been refreshed on it.
The best indicator is a rough or choppy idle which is almost impossible to tune it out.Just search for Cammed Camaro on TH-cam and listen to the videos to see if yours sounds similar.The bigger the cam the more choppy it will sound.I have videos on our channel of my camaro idling which has a small cam.Just check out several videos of cammed cars and compare their sound to yours.If your having trouble with stalling then it is either tuned wrong or there is a problem somewhere.
@@illestcamaro if it didn't have a cam in it your valves wouldn't open and the engine wouldn't run.
Im going to delete my opti spark for a Torque head 24x or EFI connection. For now i use the MSD lt1 distributor and when it fails i get it repaired instead of throwing it away. They fail just like others do but its the only one that lets me drive home when it starts failing.
Yeah we have the torque head 24x on its way for the Black 94 Z28 that is on the channel.
93-97 cars are not that desirable because of optispark issues. I should know my 94 firebird has been off the road the past 8 years
due to three bad optisparks.all the aftermarket optisparks are somewhat sketchy. Also gen 2 lt1 engines are a pain in the ass to work on especially in the f body. Recently i been trying to get in touch with Torqhead to buy one of their kits all i get is thier voice mail.
Well we just recently ordered the torque head 24x. Be a month or so and we will have some videos on the kit.
Great like I said I been trying to get one of their kits . I call their number and all
I get is " leave a message and we'll get back to you. This has been going on for the past six months what did you do to get one of their kits?
I sent an e-mail with a bunch of questions and he answered about 3days later. It does say it will be 3-4 weeks after ordering before it gets shipped out. But once we get it I will post a picture on the channel and probably not long after that we will have a video. The owner of the Z28 is pretty anxious to get this installed. I am anxious to see if it can be tuned as simple as my LS1 Camaro.
@LSxMotorsports2021 well like said I left a ton of emails to his site and gave them my email alddress and phone number. I too want to get one of these kits ,just having a hell of a time trying to get hold of them. I don't have the money or time to do LS swap
Well we will let you know how it turns out. You never know maybe we will never get it. I hope that's not the case but it will definitely end up on the channel if we don't get it and have to fight to get our money back. Not sure why you're not getting a response. This will be the first time ever dealing with this company so I can't say anything good or bad about them although it is irresponsible not to answer a potential customer.
LTCC was my choice for my 92
That seems like a good solution and it's great they included the 92-93.
Why would the torquehead 24x not work on the 93 lt1 firebird
That's what I was hoping someone would answer.I am not saying it won't work on a 93 but on their website it is not listed for the 93 fbody's.
Optispark 92 and 93 have some weird drive thing. The newer ones use a different pin to use it. You can probably change the timing chain cover and all that to a 94 and up style and then do the install
92-93 have spline drive for the cam. Also 93-94 are OBD 1.
efi connection 24x conversion lt1
Yes that is a good upgrade.I wasn't aware of this product,Thanks for letting us know about it.
A waste of money if you ask me. Also you still need the opti because of the crank sensor. Nothing wrong with the opti if installed and maintained carefully
You sound almost exactly like Wayne from Letterkenny...
Well I have been told that before. Thanks for watching and commenting I appreciate it.
@LSxMotorsports2021 apart from just pointing that out, I'm thinking my opti needs replacing at this point. I'm considering a Summit, which I think are actually AC Delco and/or Delphi. I'm not sure I want to go with a different pcm just yet. Unless it's bad too! 😜
Yeah the Torqhead is a great kit but a little pricey.
@@LSxMotorsports2021 I just want it to run again, at this point. Upgrades will come later
I don't blame you. Just get what you need that fits your budget.
The best one to use is the factory fitted original unit (not the AC Delco replacement) followed straight up by the Petris.
MSD is shit, and fails for the same reason as all the cheap ones do, the sensor dies from heat.
I've used loads of Petris units and never had a single one fail.
The original factory units also don't fail, a simple clean out and new cap and rotor, they always work. You can use the MSD cap and rotor kit on the earlier spline drive and this adds the venting.
My factory original lasted 29 years and was still working fine when i removed it.
I've seen a fair few non vented units go well over 100,000 miles without being touched.
Corvettes had LT1s from 92-96.
Good info.Thanks for sharing.
I've got 2 95 vettes. Replaced both optis with petris units. One has 20 thousand miles and the other 15 thousand trouble free miles. not a single hiccup. I locktite the rotor screws and seal the cap up with silicone. I also never drive in rain. Never spray the inside of my engine bay or go through a car wash that shoots water underneath.
I personally think the petris opti spark is a get choice
The only option is to eliminate the dang things.
My 1992 Corvette opti spark just died after 2 yrs !!
Sorry to hear that.It does happen especially on the earlier cars that don't have the venting.If the car is in really good condition you may want to get an upgraded version.But if your on a budget you could get a stock replacement and convert it to a vented Opti.There are videos here on TH-cam that show how to do it.It doesn't completely solve the Opti problem but it can prolong the life of it.
The best option is to get an L98 TPI 😂
Haha. That's a good one.
The autoparts stores sell garbage opti sparks. Even if it has a lifetime warranty its not worth it.
I agree. The owner of the 94 Camaro on the channel found that out the hard way.
@@LSxMotorsports2021 I'm getting my MSD distributor back and for $250 MSD installs a new cap and rotor, new MSD opti spark sensor, bearings and includes shipping. The benefit I get from the MSD units is that I'm able to drive home when it fails. I'll eventually upgrade to the Torque Head when I build a 383.
That's great that MSD stands behind their Opti spark.We just installed a torque head on a 94 Camaro and it was pretty pricey. We ran into a problem that I hope we get fixed in the next day or two. Waiting for a part but I will explain in the video what went wrong. But I was able to download the tune from the new PCM that came with the torqhead and I am pleased to say it is going to be very easy to tune it with HP tuners.