Nice addition / merging of your existing works before. Also this time it touched me a lot because I recognize so many parallels with my experiences. I came to Thailand for the first time in 1994 after a failed 15 year marriage. I had a normal German life with a good income, a secure job, prosperity and a solid social environment. After the (peaceful) divorce I still had all that, but I was no longer happy and didn't really know which way the future would bring. I read a lot about Asia - culture - religion - lifestyle etc. Thailand = free country, land of smiles. I thought to myself how the people there can live so happily and contentedly despite so little prosperity. So I wanted to go there to find out and maybe take a little of it for myself. The first time I spent 11 weeks in Thailand, I traveled to all corners of the country, to the rich and the very poor areas. I got to know a lot of people, learned a lot from them and I knew immediately that I would not be here for the last time. After that I came back 3-4 times a year for a few weeks each time. Whenever I had to take my flight back home, I sat for a few cigarettes in front of Don Mueang Airport after checking in and cried because I hated leaving! It was never my intention to find my second wife here, I just wanted to be happier than before. Nevertheless, I met a girl who was so different from all the others I had met in the bars of Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, Walking Street, Soi Bangla, etc. She was the manager of a small travel agency in Kata (Phuket), I quickly noticed her strong character and reliability. After a few months we got married in Germany and decided to emigrate to Thailand in 2008. We have been married for 24 years and have a 20 year old daughter. I live here among the local population, I feel very integrated and finally I found my inner peace and happiness! Of course there are developments here in terms of politics or monarchy that make me think, I also have a clear opinion, but would never express this as a guest in a foreign country ... Pat you named the individual parts of this video with well-known song titles and I think that these fit perfectly with the respective sections! Again, a big thank you for your work - Greetings from Sattahip - Gerd 🌈🍀💖🌴🌈
Thailand is not just a country in South East Asia, it's a state of mind. When I fly back home for a short holiday I get the same feelings that you described. Nothing better then that sensory overload when stepping outside the airport upon arrival.
Thanks very much! Most definitely a state of mind and this is the phrase that I'm using because I knew there was a way to describe the feeling that Thailand gives you and this is perfect... a state of mind! it clouds our judgment and makes us do ridiculous things, but for the majority of us we come out on the other side a little bit wiser or with a good idea of how to do it correctly next time, and if we don't we try again, this state of mind can be a never ending circle!
So true. It's like a big sensory slap in the face, the heat & humidity, smells, sounds and endless possibilities. I haven't returned for 10 years and am beyond bored of the nanny state down under. 2022 is the year. Can't wait ...
Exactly That great surge of energy on stepping out of the arrival hall into a whole new life then inevitably the departure. The long taxi ride to the airport. Slow sinking feeling, an encroaching numbness, sadness, resignation. Been so away long now I'd forgotten all that.
@@silverfox6883 I live there too and your right it is a Nanny State. Australians lives are so controled by the gorvenment now it takes all the fun out of living here and all our governments state and federal have become soo stupid and out of touch with reality.
Love the channel Pat, I'm trying out the expat thing under no pressure in Spain, 3 hours from home so the risk isn't great but the same things apply in terms of mental health, isolation, alcohol, weed, legality and all that fun here. For now I'm enjoying the outdoors and the food but remaining vigilant.
Like everyone else I hated that feeling of having to leave after 2 or 3 weeks. That's why I'm going to do a retirement stint there early next year for at least a couple of years. Vacations are nowhere near enough time In Thailand. For 30 years I've wanted to live there for an extended period, and now I'm finally going to do it.
@@BangkokPat For me it started from the time I got into a taxi in Rayong City and looked back to see my girlfriend crying her eyes out as I was headed towards Suvarnabhumi airport. The taxi driver noticed it and played sad classic songs. I got to Suvarnabhumi airport and realised that I simply didn't want to leave Thailand; especially BKK! I'm in London, but my heart is in Bangkok and I simply have to get back.
Brilliant, Pat. The reinvention of oneself in Thailand is a glorious second chance for many. But it comes with a risk of losing it completely. Having the right friends can make all the difference.
Without fail, I always get that same feeling every time that I leave Thailand; but at the same time, I always get a very excited feeling every time when I return. It is a one of a kind place. Thank you for this great video clip. Keep the great work!
@@BangkokPat I am really enjoying your work. Today, on Thaiger, I watched your video about the history of Patpong: that was gold! Thank you for sharing, My wife and I met on Patpong Road back in 1992 and even had our first kiss right in the middle of that road back then. I actually grew up on that road from 16 years old onwards. That was great history; and now, we are going to have to take a trip to the Patpong Museum. Keep up the great work!
I'll tell ya, you are the best info person for TL you are my go to guy thank you for all the info I'm moving in about a year and your videos are helping me a lot
After more than 90 visits, I can still vividly remember the exhilarating feeling when you step out of the airport on arrival and the equally but opposite horrendous feeling every time I stepped back into the airport…..the most magical place on earth!
Spot on about the leaving. Sometimes going from +35celcius in bangkok to -15 celcius at home after a 4 week binge spending a fortune. Ending up sitting on the couch like a zombie for 2 weeks playing thai music casettes
I never have this Feeling when i go back from Thailand or from Bali!I am always excited for the flight and enjoy it very much,it always make me smile to come back to Switzerland!I like Asia and Europa the same!
My God this video is me all over. I've always had the Bangkok blues. Those who know know. And the moment i get home I'm on the net looking for flights. I'm more at home there and fit into the lifestyle like a hand in a finely tailored glove. I've been existing like this since 1996!!!
Nice one! I like the way you shine a light on the mental health problems of foreigners. It's an interesting topic. I also like the position you take when it comes to other people lifestyles and you're just pointing out the consequences without being judgemental.
True word spoken on mental health and living in Thailand. Seen too many retired and working foreigners just loosing it in Thailand. Oddly it seems to apply in greater number to westerners that move to Thailand. Thais that to move to other countries usally improve their life..
I had a friend in Chiangmai who went to Suan Prung Mental Health facility after 10 day in ICU for a suicide attempt. I was very impressed with the Professional and compassionate care he received. It was truly excellent.
@@BangkokPat He did well. He had been undone by an awful American woman partner. He had abandoned his wife of 30 years for this bimbo. He had Parkinson’s disease it had progressed and she wanted none of it. She did want the $60,000+ A year in pension a money. American embassy was no help. The bimbo had forged is name on a check to wipe him out. I up-fronted the money for his returned return to Florida, USA. Saw him a year later living in a nice care home. Best to have a plan or a friend when you live on the periphery of empire.
I started in Koh Samui and still have a house there then moved to Nakhon Sawan with my Thai wife which she wanted to and never go to bars but was an alcoholic before moving here and don't know anybody but her family, at 65 I am alright.
Cheers David, There's a lot of people who have been through the game or the process or the wars and come out the other side a better person having learned so much from it. and then there's the opposite there's people who still keep falling into the same bad habits not just addictions but mental things like the way you think in the way you perceive are the people in Thailand. but it's not like a switch you can flick on and off it's difficult it takes a lot of thought and discipline to change. and I'm definitely not a genius in this regard. But I never claimed to be! I just try to talk and hope some people can make sense of it in these kinds of video...
You hit the point when you talk about leaving Thailand. The same feeling I have had some days ago. But to be fair - the same feeling I have had when I left Indonesia. Maybe it's the feel that you loose your "freedom" when you fly back to your old job, aparatment, the bad weather in winter and so on.
Thanks Frank, there's always that consolation when you know you're coming back soon though. and that can get us through the depressing first few weeks when we are back in the cold weather and in the reality of our jobs.
I know the feeling. Came back to Australia three months ago after running out of money and very little teaching work (due to Covid) to get me through. Missing the place badly, but two years to go before I can go back and hopefully retire there, preferably in Nong Khai. Love a beer as much as anyone but if you need to take a break and be occupied with your time in a positive way, then part time English teaching (voluntary or paid) is worth a shot and a lot of positives to come from it. A couple of days away from the bar doesn't hurt.
Suicide crossed my mind for a brief moment at the airport. I had a ticket to leave and a COVID test result and quarantine booked in N.Z. I had spent all my money and was ready to leave except my test results were in Thai language and N.Z. immigration refused to accept it. I had stretched my budget to last until March so I needed to leave. I had no money to support myself (and family). Luckily I'm able to pull my mind out of despair and adopt a positive attitude but I can understand why there has been a few suicides at the airport.
I used to get quite depressed leaving too, but over the years and many trips that have passed, now I start looking forward to my normal life back home as soon as the flight takes off.
It's easy to take any place for granted. But, once you leave, it's a bit like cutting your finger, then realising how much you actually use that finger to perform ordinary tasks. So too, you reminisce the things you did and saw that you can't in your home country. It's so important to keep a balanced mind.
I feel the same way when leaving Bangkok, even tho we fly back to Ballarat Australia, I cant wait to return to Thailand, in my humble opinion a much better place to live.
I think the people have a lot to do with why so many want to live in Thailand let's be honest if they weren't the way they were then it just wouldn't be like that all these people wanting to move to this country. but maybe due to egos or pride many don't really want to admit this or they think it might make them appear less superior. But then again that's a general statement that can be taken in many different ways it depends who you mix with and how you interact with them socially and intellectually. I'm not trying to be to scientific by the way!
Same same for me in Albury-Wodonga. Australia has gotten a lot worse in the three years I've been away and even the lady who gave me a haircut in Wodonga last week said Australians have become 'anal', 555555, so it's not just me. Hope you find your dream retirement home in Thailand in the not too distant future.
Great video Pat! I feel the same way too. It’s amazing how Thailand, the country can make one feel like that! One thing no one talks about on TH-cam is the millions of Thais who work jobs that make Thailand what it is for tourists and expats. Maybe some credits should go to them a bit. Because I’m sure they’re not recognised by both the fellow Thais, expats and tourists. What about doing some interviews with them? Even with their imperfect English. Just saying.
One of the best feelings I ever received is flying into the beauty of Thailand after leaving Teheran in 1978.Used to go to Thailand every 2 years but don’t fly now.
Pat I don't mind leaving from the airport - honestly I can never find the right desk to check in.To be honest, I have spent almost half my life in Thailand over the last 16 years. There are the good things and the bad things. Many people come with high expectations. Its not about the bars or the women, its so much more. The deeper you go, through understanding the culture and speaking the language the more revealing it is. As I get closer to retirement, its about living a good and affordable life.
I first came to Thailand in the early 80s.... I was young and had a really good time. I lived and worked in BKK for a few years. Later I moved on to Japan Just at the tail end of the bubble economy. From where I would visit Thailand 3-4 times per year for my fix to satisfy my addiction to Thailand.......I think if I had stayed in Thailand it would have drained me mentally for sure.... There are just so many holes one can fall into, and they are so deep one would find any one of them difficult to get out of.... For health reasons I returned to Europe about 15 years ago.....I still made return visits to Thailand but not for the past 2 years due to the pandemic. I have great memories of the times I have had in Thailand..... Just thankful I never fell into any of the deep Pot holes and kept sane
Interesting video, mental health issues exist every where, especially if you “can’t find your place in life”. Being happy or content is a choice, the place you live can add to it but it doesn’t guarantee it. Family, career satisfaction, and the ability to make friends helps. Being an expat anywhere isn’t like being a native, the internet is full of “men mostly” extolling the party that is Thailand. I don’t see many who after years of drinking, womanizing, burning the candle at both ends are on here saying how great it was.
I did my time in the bars having fun with girls in Thailand and Laos. But it only ever lasted as long as the beer. Not a permanent lifestyle for me and some of the sad cases of men who did lose it all were a sobering reminder to me this was just a bit of fun for a while but not a life I or anyone can sustain long term
@@BangkokPat try being on an island guys... you completely lose it to beautiful sunsets and island fever. Ive been in vietnam for 2.5 years and i always had that voice in the back of my head of "ok so when u gonna come back to US and make your life?" (im in my 30s) but being on an island AND during covid, something tilted inside. Its too easy, too quiet, too peaceful, and now every discomfort or decision is tougher to make an action to. "man.. im relaxing" I know Im not the only one as the foreigners i know on the island, 80% i see that crazy look.. its like the pressure from do i stay or do i go builts up but you pour it into "look how beautiful life is!" and "but it would be more annoying in the city or around people or more expensive back home! or cold!". which brings me to Pats videos. At first i was watching them to procure some local knowledge but after a few vids i paused and i got this strange feeling, as if I am watching a guy talking about being a loser. Not Pat being a loser but about being a loser and guys being losers and man.. it felt like its a sad look into what I am going to slide to for some reason even though I never expected to be some old man in thailand. But suddenly that assuredness wasnt there. It was as if Pat was telling me 'if u gonna be a fuck up this is what will happen" and ive been a fuck up but i always felt like "whatever, this is awesome right now and cheap, and Im young ill figure it out".. but as i said w that voice of "we going back home right?" muted now i wasnt sure. So thanks Pat that voice is now back.. I definitely am going to start thinking do i actually build something here or when is it time to go back.
Very interesting you make the films very well thank you . And for feeding the cats ,I used to do that and hope to again once travel is easier. Keep yourself healthy in mind and body .
I always feel better at DM airport - if I’m flying from there it means I’m off to the north or Esan - places I love and seeing old friends. I always buy a McDonalds at DM - literally it’s the only time I ever eat that c**p! 😂 Strangely by the time I’m at Suvarnabhumi to fly home I’ve already switched out of holiday mode into work mode and I just see the journey as a long trip to the office 😆. Really good points though about the lifestyle pitfalls. Good self awareness helps. For me, I couldn’t be happy long term in Bkk (or any big city) I need to be much closer to countryside. And being outdoors as much as possible makes me feel a lot better. I have to take regular exercise - cycling, hiking, running to keep feeling my best mentally. And it’s important I’m always working towards some sort of goal(s) as well as having a few dependable friends.
Thanks so much for raising these topics man. I worked in BKK as an English teacher for a while and lived off Kao Sahn - saw so many car wreck expats and fell off the wagon myself so had to leave. Thailand can seem like the solution when you live in a routine in the west, but if you go, you need a serious plan and the discipline to make it happen.
Not hard to lose your marbles if you've been partying hard for a fair length of time in the bar scene with all of its madness, need to break it up. That awful feeling going back to London used to hit me in the taxi going to Don Muang with the sun on my neck on the back seat, still would rather that airport than the new one though (too big), lot of good points raised Pat.....cheers.
It's a terrible feeling no doubt! When I got back to London from Thailand, it was winter and raining hardcore. I shouted "f*** off" as I got out of Heathrow airport. I probably looked like a twat, but I can't be blamed for it, because Thailand is that addictive.
This is excellent, I’ve been only once in 2017 and fell in love with the place it was my first trip abroad so I tried other places like Vietnam Cambodia Bali since and now I am returning to Thailand on 31/12, I dream of retirement there but I need more of the insight you touched on , I look forward to seeing more of your videos
One of the best channels on TH-cam IMHO. Had to subscribe. Great content, advice, subject and knowledge. It's been 31 years since I've been there. Best trip of my life! I stayed away from all the tourist places and fell in love with the people and food. See you very soon! Thank you for sharing! Cheers!
@@BangkokPat Take your time. Your content and style is unique. You will do great I'm sure. I did web development and marketing for 2 decades. Keep it up man. You're going in a good direction.
Second view ,yes it can be heavy reality check to leave there ,and come back here to Sydney ,good video mate I hope I see you around up there next week or over January 🙏👍
Wow, for better or worse I can relate! Something about Bangkok can evoke an emotional response? You articulate it well. Some fall into the proverbial "rabbit hole" and are never the same and still others never come back!
Oh we all remember the good old days It was 1985 my first trip to Thailand and my other half telling me to tell everyone 'mai me dung' (have no money) which at 20 I didn't have anyway 😚 yes I preferred Don Mueang Airport also I don't know why. First time getting off the plane, humidity, smell, fumes, noisy motorbikes, traffic, sweating like a pig, stayed at small Bangkapi condo waking up seeing 10 uni students sleeping living room floor and don't get me started on bathroom stories! My other half didn't tell me anything about hole in floor and cereal bowls for bathing 🤯😲 but after that yearly trips to Bangkok and now living here since 2004 so I don't know how I survived. 2 🏳️🌈 LTR (both 🇹🇭) 1st was 18yrs 2nd now nearly 22 years😬 time flies😰 Yes it's complicated. My condo has maybe 5 or 6 farang but we never talk, think it's like you said about avoiding prejudging. I don't think this pandemic is helping the already fragile mental health problems of some. I'm sorry to say this endemic is going to be a yearly thing so hang in there people. ☮ 🤐🙄 ⚕ @ farang_deaths & I have posted farang 💀 on Twitter like you mentioned Suvarnabhumi airport many over the last 10 years....Not wanting to be flippant but Pattaya is more likely to be jump and Phuket is more likely to be push. So where you live in Thailand can be a major part in one's health. The party stopped for alot of tourists(expats included)' about 6-7 years ago with increased paperwork, crackdown on Ed visas, border runs, 90 day reports, TM30s TM28s etc. Government Complex Immigration is a depressing place to go and get talked down to by Thai immigration 'officers' thankfully for me only once a year. I've said too much already🤐
Thanks Lindsay. Quite a lot of people say Thailand is a state of mind and I can see why they say that it makes us do peculiar thing sometimes and local habits rub off on us for example the face issue, back in the UK I wouldn't give a damn about someone else and the expat status blah blah blah. But I do like to think I can tell when I'm being looked at in a deragatory way buy another foreigner it's usually the way they’re dressed and their appearance. we have a word to describe people like that where I come from and it's not really nice it's quite ignorant to use that word. Arriving at Don muang was like a celebration, I never felt the same arriving at the new airport, too glossy too modern too well organized maybe. with Don muang I really felt like I was arriving in a completely foreign country that wasn't organized the same way as where I'd come from which was allegedly the modern world. I now count that modern world as the third world but that's just where I'm from in the UK. hey migration has always been awkward from what I can see and there's difficult as it's made it's always doable but the longer you live here the more of a drag it becomes. the government are clearly hoping 2 attract people who only wanna stay spend their money and go after a couple of years possibly after losing their money through sheer stupidity which does happen a hell of a lot. But through all that negative stuff and complicated process of going through life as an expat in Thailand there are some very lovely stories of those who made it through all this adversity and came out the other side. (I'm not one of them by the way, but I'm always working on it!)
Thanks Pat another great video and interesting topic. I have lived in the UK before for 3 yrs from Oz and it brought up loads of challenges, because you always take yourself with you wherever you go, so it’s important to expect that just like anywhere on the planet it will throw different challenges at you, and plenty of your own making if you aren’t being realistic, and that isolation whether by a language barrier or the difficulty in finding a good support network and like minded mate’s, moving to another country doesn’t solve your internal challenges it will definitely highlight them though. Wishing you well.
As always, interesting musings about an important topic...what happens inside of us when we’re in a place that’s like a huge carnival. Sometimes we stop feeling that carnival vibe. It’s a subject for more thorough thought about what we think will make us happy and how we discover, to our sadness, that we really don’t know what we need and what we want. To repeat, very few people vlogging even mention this omnipresent facet of our life - how we feel - and yet it is part of every person’s journey. Good on you, and good job for treating the subject as you have...with information, avoiding sentimentality, and allowing a thoughtful viewer to conclude that he should beaware that ‘everything that glitters is not gold’...and that perhaps our expectations are the key to whether we feel well or unwell. Heaven is Heaven and there’s no place on our travel itinerary that’s Heaven.
Thanks Dean, I suppose it's difficult to be honest and down to earth when you're also trying to build your own personality as a you tuber. You could be scared that the slightest doubt someone has well make you lose a subscriber. But there are some youtubers that are very sincere and I think many more want to be but they just don't know a way to bring it up in their videos because of their kind of subject matter they cover. That's my theory anyway!
I appreciate your reply, Pat. I think you’re probably right in part and simply being kind. We do our best when we’re our self, as you know well. In your case, it isn’t the number of people who view your channel, but rather who is viewing your channel. You say, Dean - you don’t understand the importance of numbers on TH-cam. Yet, I do. Let me explain: I think when the right person views your stuff, you’re going to get invited to speak to a group of perhaps organized expats, foreign chamber(s) of commerce, etc. about historical and current trends in a given neighborhood of Bangkok. From there, I believe things will go differently for you in a direction yet unimagined. The very intelligent viewer must conclude that your research skills alone applied to any locale or neighborhood independently of or alongside their market research is incredibly rare, useful, and valuable. You might want to think about how to indicate this research skill on your channel beyond demonstrating it - describing it, for instance - and wherever you’re telling people about your self. See if you can get with an honest and knowledgeable marketer and create a plan to introduce your self and your skills and your channel as a portfolio including targets for this plan. I see your channel here as a stepping-stone and a portfolio of the many things you do. For those who want information while we take care of our illusions and fun, your work is excellent and entertaining. Are you different than most vloggers? Yes...and brighter...and more informed. Yes, different and better. The right people have to see your work and you’ll be doing something new soon. Lastly, whether good fortune strikes you or not the quality, the relevancy, and the respect you give to Thailand and to the people of Thailand via your treatment of the subject sans sarcasm, comparison, or inuendo - the unlikeable traits of many visitors and guests to Thailand and to even our own countries is worthy of acknowledgement, recognition, and support. Stay the course and toot your horn - you have something unusual and special.
Absolutely spot on!……Ever since my first and every time since, which is +- 80 times, I used to get that really awful, depressing and sad feeling when leaving…….it’s impossible to explain to someone who’s never been……glad it’s not just me!
Some positive feedback here. Audio levels differ greatly while transitioning to new scene after 7:22 . Thanks for all your videos. It's a very enjoyable channel. 🙏
That's actually an older clip transitioning into a new clip. I tried to smooth it oevr but had to accept that any adjustment would sound odd. The old clip is from the original Mental Health video a few months ago. This is a video based on that which was reshot for Thaiger Channel, but due to demand I finally put it officially on this channel.
If your Canadian and, for what ever reason, find yourself penniless, the Canadian Consolate will help you with a plane ticket home. From what I have heard it would be in the form of a loan and mostly likely put on your tax bill. This would allow you to make it home, find work or Social Assistance, to get through your situation.
Greetings from Vietnam where I have been for the last 30 years and where I would not want to ever leave except for holiday or family visit. This a is very good video on an important topic. The reasons to come to Thailand or Vietnam and the experiences here are not much different. In my opinion the key to being satisfied and indeed even happy is to have stable relationships and to avoid the obviously destructive behaviors of over indulgence. But quite frankly it is not always a simple choice but rather chemical balances and or imbalances coming into play. Existing problems are rarely left behind in home countries. Very often proper prescription drugs can help and to the extent possible should be evaluated for regular use when necessary and properly prescribed. Good luck to all. I have been to Thailand many times as we are so close and have always enjoyed my experiences there since my first visit in 1988.
i think its down to are you actually going to make something with your life. then do you like the culture and the women. if those two are in place i think you are going to have a comfortable life especially if you make enough to travel back as often as you need. Lots of people fall into the trap of its cheap so i need less work but then cant afford to leave. Now youre trapped w fear of how do i go live back home when its 3-10 more expensive!? AND ive got holes on my resume.
I have been fortunate to travel to a few different counties and normally after about 10 days I can’t wait to get back home but Thailand is different , the drive to the airport is normally very quiet and when we take the Escalator up to passport control and you have one last look at family or loved ones and then you know the holiday is over and then that strange feeling kicks in …….it’s over until next time !!!!. Interesting Vlog Pat well done on highlighting certain things . Stay safe
It's changing in good ways and bad ways I think for the Thais it's definitelya lot more positive in terms of infrastructure and facilities. not sure about the inner workings of you know what..... But for the old people like me who keep complaining that Bangkok has lost its old school character it's quite tricky.
Bangkok is an incredible city and Thailand has incredible sights you don't find anywhere else in the world. The country is a virtual treasure trove of hidden gems and secret delights. Some of the foreigners are a different story however, so many have mental issues before they come and the laid back, hedonistic atmosphere either helps them or aggravates the native problems they have already. You really have to choose farang friends wisely in a place like Thailand.
Brilliant stuff... Moved to Manila in 08. Heart would sink whenever I left so made it permanent. Parallels the Thai experience. But almost didn't survive that first few years! Mellowed out and been on a roll since.
@@unassailable6138 For me you need to visit both and decide. The Philippines won out for me mainly because of the SRRV visa and no real language barrier. Both countries have so much to offer. Good luck and God bless.
I am from Ireland and I am married to a Thailand woman. I said to my wife before I came here we would come for a year and see what it is like to live here. I can say with absolute certainty that I love it here so much. I will leave with a heavy heart, but we know we will return here in the future for good. This country is a paradise, I am safe in the fact that we both are going back to Ireland for the right reasons and building to live and move to Thailand for good in the future
Always more to enjoy in Thailand than coming back home can’t wait to come back next November for a very long visit this time. Always enjoy watching your videos Pat..
Great vid Pat. Gnarly toads I call them. Became one for a bit but snapped out of it. If things aren't going well it's easy to take it out on Thailand and spiral down, especially if you've gone all in.👍
Cheers James. I've been through the same mate in my early days here, had to take a look at myself. But back then I had a different attitude and lived life on the edge at 100mph. Nobody's perfect and I still allow myself to have a moan every now and again, I tend to keep it to myself though.
Its bang on to describe it as a 'downer' upon leaving..i did a month in december,pcr test positive the day of my flight home,so did 10days quarantine,then 2days freedom before home.I literally had guts of lead sat in that airplane seat,then sat on settee looking at the grey skys from my living room in England.I made a decision right there to sell up,downsize and go every winter.Ive just accepted an offer on my house..stuff it.Choose Life 😎👍
You need routine, gym , 15000 steps per day , set three month goals , that break year into 4 , clean your condo …. Move move move , work on yourself, you need to be number 1 on list Not girls or pixx , you need to build your own world the rest will take care of itself 10 years here never had a problem love the place like I turned up yesterday Good luck
not sure if you remember this one but back in the late 1990's early 2000's when you walked out of Don Muang Airport (before swampy) there was a little pop up bar? brilliant little place to get over your hangover on the plane.......also inside there was a restaurant where you walked through into like the back garden where you could smoke and drink and get blasted by 2 cold mist machines......great airport over the past 24 years ive never felt too sad to be leaving but looking forward to get back
Actually Thailand is a GREAT place for your mental health if you stay long enough. You learn how to be patient, how to cope with not getting a straight answer about anything (or a correct one), you understand why there are about 20 Thai words that mean 'pedantic', you become very calm in dangerous situations (any Thailand road), and you stop trying to logic anything after a while. I recommend it for anyone with anger or impatience issues. Getting upset never resolves anything (even if it's deservedly so) 😬😤🙄😅
Hi Pat, very thoughtful and realistic view. I liked the old airport there was a fairly gloomy restaurant you could sit in once through customs you could sit in and calm down in.forget the name.
Thanks William, I think I know the restaurant you mean, but the name do you mean forget them the restaurant of the name whoever forget name anymore was you've just left behind?
I'm Thai, and this information is very surprised me. I had ever been in UK about 3 years, but i never ever feel something like these when I fly back to Thailand.
What ever you say Bangkok Thailand will always make you happy and excited. Still a lot better than many big cities around the world. Once you get here you will feel it and understand what I mean.
Hi Pat. I've been enjoying all of your videos but the ones about mental health have piqued my curiosity. It's a nice little niche you have going there. I look forward to more tales from the seedy underbelly of Bangkok. And when you have a minute take a look at the writing of Lawrence Osborne an excellent novelist who lives in Bangkok. His books Bangkok days and The Glass Kingdom are top-notch.
Thanks Paul, I've only read Bangkok days but I really enjoyed it, and looking at his information now I didn't realize he was that old. thanks for the recommendation I will try a couple of his other titles!
Gosh, been to Thailand ten times, always in the north, have no illusions about the country, could live there happily till my soul flies off, will close up shop here in the dull-as-owl-shit USA and come there, soon as the restrictions are lifted. You are a lucky man, Pat.
Be damned with my heart surgery recovery and having to be careful, I just had to jump up and start dancing to that background music at 3:45! Lol, LOL, lol! Awesome episode! That “Bridge Over Troubled Waters” subtitle was disturbingly poetic! I also just had a morbid thought/inquiry. I wonder how many people self destructed and wiped out (Bangkok blues) at the Don Muang Airport back during its heyday of being a major international airport? Also, there is a disturbing reality at 12:15 that’s totally the truth!
Cheers Scott, I think Don Muang had a more calming effect than the new place, due to it being darker and smaller and with better seating areas. The new one is all bright lights and hard seats with nowhere to sit hidden so you can sulk. People love reading about others misery and it's a sad reality but maybe some of those enjoying it more are closer to that than they think.
Fantastic vlog & topic Pat. You hit the nail on the head in how many people feel when leaving Thailand, or indeed their favourite overseas destination. My last time in Thailand was before Covid & it took months to rid myself of the blues afterwards. Longing to be there asap. This vlog deserves to be shared by all, it's that good & on point. Well done Pat.
Did you know Pat that the name Suvarnabhumi Translates to. The Land of Gold The airport was designed by a British engineer and is the 5th largest free-standing building in the World. .First time I arrived in Bangkok in April 93 I was in transit to Hanoi and the old airport only had one terminal then and the Thai Army use to have a top-class golf course there part of Don Muang was a military Airbase...I think Khun Thaksin oversaw the construction of the new airport just think of the billions of Baht that airport has generated for Thailand, Love your videos, Pat they bring back a lot of happy memories, especially Bangkok.
Depends what grass and it depends what's on the other side Bill. We love to hope it is greener on the other side but sometimes we arrive there and we have to adapt to whatever color it is quickly and we can come out of the other side with lots of tragic stories to tell or we use our brains and discipline and end up living happily ever after. it's never ending journey and we're always buying one way tickets so we always have to work to move on to what we think is the next step up! does that sound like some deep **** to you? Just kidding...
@@BangkokPat My comment was a little vague i admit... What i meant was " for some people, moving to a new country is a way to escape the sadness their current location has bought them. (the Greener grass part) When in fact, it's not the location that is the issue. Their sadness is still within! " (OR IS IT)
Good one Pat. I have taken many depressing flights home not sure if it was from leaving Thailand or the thought of a 23 hour flight. Maybe both. Sadly their are still guys pointing out grammar mistakes on forums. Keeps them busy I suppose.
The key to maintaining your mental health in Thailand is to go home for a few years. A reset every once and a while is needed to remind you of the great things in Thailand.
I used to go home once a year during December, for some cold weather and fresh air and a reset. Worked wonders. 3-4wks of London soon made me miss the mayhem though.
Time and progress nowhere stand still, the bkk or thailand that I saw 23 years ago and experienced for 2 years is long gone, people have changed too, king bumipol said on his 70th birthday he would like from his people they may keep the old traditions, I doubt it was heard
after several years experience with the SouthEast I easily found a balance within pros and cons, so I really can't understand those who have been living there for some time and want to leave due to some social incompatibility.... just give me a decent, somehow safe job and I move there tomorrow.
I've known guys who've lived here a while but they get bitter , angry , I say sabai sabai. I was lucky ,I already knew a couple of people from back home who lived in Bkk, plus I met many more foreigners and Thai people by going to watch Port FC play football in the Khlongtoei area at the PAT stadium.
Too late for that! Not really, but you really don't want to argue with Thai people over things that really don't matter. Stay relaxed, smile a lot, and have a sense of humor and all will be good.
Nice addition / merging of your existing works before. Also this time it touched me a lot because I recognize so many parallels with my experiences.
I came to Thailand for the first time in 1994 after a failed 15 year marriage. I had a normal German life with a good income, a secure job, prosperity and a solid social environment. After the (peaceful) divorce I still had all that, but I was no longer happy and didn't really know which way the future would bring. I read a lot about Asia - culture - religion - lifestyle etc. Thailand = free country, land of smiles. I thought to myself how the people there can live so happily and contentedly despite so little prosperity. So I wanted to go there to find out and maybe take a little of it for myself. The first time I spent 11 weeks in Thailand, I traveled to all corners of the country, to the rich and the very poor areas. I got to know a lot of people, learned a lot from them and I knew immediately that I would not be here for the last time. After that I came back 3-4 times a year for a few weeks each time. Whenever I had to take my flight back home, I sat for a few cigarettes in front of Don Mueang Airport after checking in and cried because I hated leaving!
It was never my intention to find my second wife here, I just wanted to be happier than before. Nevertheless, I met a girl who was so different from all the others I had met in the bars of Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, Walking Street, Soi Bangla, etc. She was the manager of a small travel agency in Kata (Phuket), I quickly noticed her strong character and reliability. After a few months we got married in Germany and decided to emigrate to Thailand in 2008. We have been married for 24 years and have a 20 year old daughter. I live here among the local population, I feel very integrated and finally I found my inner peace and happiness! Of course there are developments here in terms of politics or monarchy that make me think, I also have a clear opinion, but would never express this as a guest in a foreign country ...
Pat you named the individual parts of this video with well-known song titles and I think that these fit perfectly with the respective sections! Again, a big thank you for your work - Greetings from Sattahip - Gerd 🌈🍀💖🌴🌈
Thailand is not just a country in South East Asia, it's a state of mind. When I fly back home for a short holiday I get the same feelings that you described. Nothing better then that sensory overload when stepping outside the airport upon arrival.
Thanks very much! Most definitely a state of mind and this is the phrase that I'm using because I knew there was a way to describe the feeling that Thailand gives you and this is perfect... a state of mind! it clouds our judgment and makes us do ridiculous things, but for the majority of us we come out on the other side a little bit wiser or with a good idea of how to do it correctly next time, and if we don't we try again, this state of mind can be a never ending circle!
So true. It's like a big sensory slap in the face, the heat & humidity, smells, sounds and endless possibilities. I haven't returned for 10 years and am beyond bored of the nanny state down under. 2022 is the year. Can't wait ...
Exactly That great surge of energy on stepping out of the arrival hall into a whole new life then inevitably the departure. The long taxi ride to the airport. Slow sinking feeling, an encroaching numbness, sadness, resignation. Been so away long now I'd forgotten all that.
@@silverfox6883 I live there too and your right it is a Nanny State. Australians lives are so controled by the gorvenment now it takes all the fun out of living here and all our governments state and federal have become soo stupid and out of touch with reality.
Same with Jamaica
Love the channel Pat, I'm trying out the expat thing under no pressure in Spain, 3 hours from home so the risk isn't great but the same things apply in terms of mental health, isolation, alcohol, weed, legality and all that fun here. For now I'm enjoying the outdoors and the food but remaining vigilant.
Like everyone else I hated that feeling of having to leave after 2 or 3 weeks. That's why I'm going to do a retirement stint there early next year for at least a couple of years. Vacations are nowhere near enough time In Thailand. For 30 years I've wanted to live there for an extended period, and now I'm finally going to do it.
You just described exactly my feelings when I am departing from BKK back to my country; it's a weird sensation of sadness that almost makes me cry.
Aranis, it's a horrible gut feeling that hits you hard when you can't turn back....ie. when the plane has taken off
@@BangkokPat For me it started from the time I got into a taxi in Rayong City and looked back to see my girlfriend crying her eyes out as I was headed towards Suvarnabhumi airport.
The taxi driver noticed it and played sad classic songs.
I got to Suvarnabhumi airport and realised that I simply didn't want to leave Thailand; especially BKK!
I'm in London, but my heart is in Bangkok and I simply have to get back.
Brilliant, Pat. The reinvention of oneself in Thailand is a glorious second chance for many. But it comes with a risk of losing it completely. Having the right friends can make all the difference.
Seen a few reinventions that are total fabrications....
@@jameswright8529 heheh. Fake it til you make it. Or break it...
I've seen many in my time, and I don't criticise, as there's no point pissing on their dream. Let them find the path and see if they can walk it.
most problems start with alcohol. Just try not drinking
Without fail, I always get that same feeling every time that I leave Thailand; but at the same time, I always get a very excited feeling every time when I return. It is a one of a kind place. Thank you for this great video clip. Keep the great work!
Thank you Tony, it's painful sometimes leaving, the new airport makes it feel worse.
@@BangkokPat I am really enjoying your work. Today, on Thaiger, I watched your video about the history of Patpong: that was gold! Thank you for sharing, My wife and I met on Patpong Road back in 1992 and even had our first kiss right in the middle of that road back then. I actually grew up on that road from 16 years old onwards. That was great history; and now, we are going to have to take a trip to the Patpong Museum. Keep up the great work!
I'll tell ya, you are the best info person for TL you are my go to guy thank you for all the info I'm moving in about a year and your videos are helping me a lot
After more than 90 visits, I can still vividly remember the exhilarating feeling when you step out of the airport on arrival and the equally but opposite horrendous feeling every time I stepped back into the airport…..the most magical place on earth!
The new airport has no character!
@@BangkokPat biggest single room building in the world though!
No character??? What about the Yak ( giant statues ) I think it's hilarious how they put masks on them
Spot on about the leaving. Sometimes going from +35celcius in bangkok to -15 celcius at home after a 4 week binge spending a fortune. Ending up sitting on the couch like a zombie for 2 weeks playing thai music casettes
I never have this Feeling when i go back from Thailand or from Bali!I am always excited for the flight and enjoy it very much,it always make me smile to come back to Switzerland!I like Asia and Europa the same!
Spot on mate!!!
My God this video is me all over. I've always had the Bangkok blues. Those who know know. And the moment i get home I'm on the net looking for flights. I'm more at home there and fit into the lifestyle like a hand in a finely tailored glove. I've been existing like this since 1996!!!
no desire to go to thailand whatsoever, but your videos are so cozy and lov the camera work. good job!
Thanks James, at least you've got a good idea of what it looks like.
You captured the feeling of leaving Thailand perfectly. Well done Sir.
Thanks a lot, we've all been there. The ''new'' airport is depressing as hell even if you aren't leaving!
I have the same feeling anywhere after having had great holidays. It's pretty normal.
Nice one! I like the way you shine a light on the mental health problems of foreigners. It's an interesting topic. I also like the position you take when it comes to other people lifestyles and you're just pointing out the consequences without being judgemental.
Splendid comment/observation Sir
True word spoken on mental health and living in Thailand. Seen too many retired and working foreigners just loosing it in Thailand. Oddly it seems to apply in greater number to westerners that move to Thailand. Thais that to move to other countries usally improve their life..
I had a friend in Chiangmai who went to Suan Prung Mental Health facility after 10 day in ICU for a suicide attempt. I was very impressed with the
Professional and compassionate care he received. It was truly excellent.
Glad to hear that BBBM, hope he is doing good mate.
@@BangkokPat He did well. He had been undone by an awful American woman partner. He had abandoned his wife of 30 years for this bimbo. He had Parkinson’s disease it had progressed and she wanted none of it. She did want the $60,000+ A year in pension a money. American embassy was no help.
The bimbo had forged is name on a check to wipe him out. I up-fronted the money for his returned return to Florida, USA. Saw him a year later living in a nice care home. Best to have a plan or a friend when you live on the periphery of empire.
I started in Koh Samui and still have a house there then moved to Nakhon Sawan with my Thai wife which she wanted to and never go to bars but was an alcoholic before moving here and don't know anybody but her family, at 65 I am alright.
Cheers David, There's a lot of people who have been through the game or the process or the wars and come out the other side a better person having learned so much from it. and then there's the opposite there's people who still keep falling into the same bad habits not just addictions but mental things like the way you think in the way you perceive are the people in Thailand. but it's not like a switch you can flick on and off it's difficult it takes a lot of thought and discipline to change. and I'm definitely not a genius in this regard. But I never claimed to be! I just try to talk and hope some people can make sense of it in these kinds of video...
You hit the point when you talk about leaving Thailand. The same feeling I have had some days ago. But to be fair - the same feeling I have had when I left Indonesia. Maybe it's the feel that you loose your "freedom" when you fly back to your old job, aparatment, the bad weather in winter and so on.
Thanks Frank, there's always that consolation when you know you're coming back soon though. and that can get us through the depressing first few weeks when we are back in the cold weather and in the reality of our jobs.
You forget to mention the other major bad in the West, feminist whamen & PC culture ...
I know the feeling. Came back to Australia three months ago after running out of money and very little teaching work (due to Covid) to get me through. Missing the place badly, but two years to go before I can go back and hopefully retire there, preferably in Nong Khai. Love a beer as much as anyone but if you need to take a break and be occupied with your time in a positive way, then part time English teaching (voluntary or paid) is worth a shot and a lot of positives to come from it. A couple of days away from the bar doesn't hurt.
Loved your take, philosophy, on Thailand. I concur. 🙏🏼
I used to go to Fatima church every Sunday as a kid. Bring back memories. Thx for the video Pat.
Interesting point.as a thai who used to live in BKK for 30 years
Suicide crossed my mind for a brief moment at the airport. I had a ticket to leave and a COVID test result and quarantine booked in N.Z. I had spent all my money and was ready to leave except my test results were in Thai language and N.Z. immigration refused to accept it. I had stretched my budget to last until March so I needed to leave. I had no money to support myself (and family). Luckily I'm able to pull my mind out of despair and adopt a positive attitude but I can understand why there has been a few suicides at the airport.
I used to get quite depressed leaving too, but over the years and many trips that have passed, now I start looking forward to my normal life back home as soon as the flight takes off.
I know the feeling, sometime I'd love a break from Bangkok for a few weeks.
It's easy to take any place for granted. But, once you leave, it's a bit like cutting your finger, then realising how much you actually use that finger to perform ordinary tasks. So too, you reminisce the things you did and saw that you can't in your home country. It's so important to keep a balanced mind.
good points, valid as ever. Good work
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed that.
Nice and Good spoken. I do understand what you mean, and totally agree with you Pat. 🙏
Thanks Gert, it's a messed up world sometimes and we're all trying to enjoy the ride somehow...
I feel the same way when leaving Bangkok, even tho we fly back to Ballarat Australia, I cant wait to return to Thailand, in my humble opinion a much better place to live.
I think the people have a lot to do with why so many want to live in Thailand let's be honest if they weren't the way they were then it just wouldn't be like that all these people wanting to move to this country. but maybe due to egos or pride many don't really want to admit this or they think it might make them appear less superior.
But then again that's a general statement that can be taken in many different ways it depends who you mix with and how you interact with them socially and intellectually.
I'm not trying to be to scientific by the way!
Same same for me in Albury-Wodonga. Australia has gotten a lot worse in the three years I've been away and even the lady who gave me a haircut in Wodonga last week said Australians have become 'anal', 555555, so it's not just me. Hope you find your dream retirement home in Thailand in the not too distant future.
@@terrythekittieful Yep, the feminist nanny state is in full swing now as the West moves into some sort of boring, PC gynocentric dystopia ...
Great video Pat! I feel the same way too. It’s amazing how Thailand, the country can make one feel like that! One thing no one talks about on TH-cam is the millions of Thais who work jobs that make Thailand what it is for tourists and expats. Maybe some credits should go to them a bit. Because I’m sure they’re not recognised by both the fellow Thais, expats and tourists. What about doing some interviews with them? Even with their imperfect English. Just saying.
One of the best feelings I ever received is flying into the beauty of Thailand after leaving Teheran in 1978.Used to go to Thailand every 2 years but don’t fly now.
Pat I don't mind leaving from the airport - honestly I can never find the right desk to check in.To be honest, I have spent almost half my life in Thailand over the last 16 years. There are the good things and the bad things. Many people come with high expectations. Its not about the bars or the women, its so much more. The deeper you go, through understanding the culture and speaking the language the more revealing it is. As I get closer to retirement, its about living a good and affordable life.
Very nice: The zoom, that stops at the same time as you! :-) It's appreciated!
Thanks, I often try and edit those to the exact time!!!
@@BangkokPat !!! It's a kind of magic!
I first came to Thailand in the early 80s.... I was young and had a really good time. I lived and worked in BKK for a few years. Later I moved on to Japan Just at the tail end of the bubble economy. From where I would visit Thailand 3-4 times per year for my fix to satisfy my addiction to Thailand.......I think if I had stayed in Thailand it would have drained me mentally for sure.... There are just so many holes one can fall into, and they are so deep one would find any one of them difficult to get out of.... For health reasons I returned to Europe about 15 years ago.....I still made return visits to Thailand but not for the past 2 years due to the pandemic. I have great memories of the times I have had in Thailand..... Just thankful I never fell into any of the deep Pot holes and kept sane
Very very good video this one , well done
Interesting video, mental health issues exist every where, especially if you “can’t find your place in life”. Being happy or content is a choice, the place you live can add to it but it doesn’t guarantee it. Family, career satisfaction, and the ability to make friends helps. Being an expat anywhere isn’t like being a native, the internet is full of “men mostly” extolling the party that is Thailand. I don’t see many who after years of drinking, womanizing, burning the candle at both ends are on here saying how great it was.
Great pat. Thsnjs
Thanks Anthony.
I did my time in the bars having fun with girls in Thailand and Laos. But it only ever lasted as long as the beer. Not a permanent lifestyle for me and some of the sad cases of men who did lose it all were a sobering reminder to me this was just a bit of fun for a while but not a life I or anyone can sustain long term
Another factual , interesting and non judgemental video
Self discipline is a must for expats in Thailand 🇹🇭
It's tough when you're in that zone to keep one eye on discipline!!
ie, alcohol
@@BangkokPat try being on an island guys... you completely lose it to beautiful sunsets and island fever. Ive been in vietnam for 2.5 years and i always had that voice in the back of my head of "ok so when u gonna come back to US and make your life?" (im in my 30s) but being on an island AND during covid, something tilted inside. Its too easy, too quiet, too peaceful, and now every discomfort or decision is tougher to make an action to. "man.. im relaxing" I know Im not the only one as the foreigners i know on the island, 80% i see that crazy look.. its like the pressure from do i stay or do i go builts up but you pour it into "look how beautiful life is!" and "but it would be more annoying in the city or around people or more expensive back home! or cold!".
which brings me to Pats videos. At first i was watching them to procure some local knowledge but after a few vids i paused and i got this strange feeling, as if I am watching a guy talking about being a loser. Not Pat being a loser but about being a loser and guys being losers and man.. it felt like its a sad look into what I am going to slide to for some reason even though I never expected to be some old man in thailand. But suddenly that assuredness wasnt there. It was as if Pat was telling me 'if u gonna be a fuck up this is what will happen" and ive been a fuck up but i always felt like "whatever, this is awesome right now and cheap, and Im young ill figure it out".. but as i said w that voice of "we going back home right?" muted now i wasnt sure. So thanks Pat that voice is now back.. I definitely am going to start thinking do i actually build something here or when is it time to go back.
Very interesting you make the films very well thank you .
And for feeding the cats ,I used to do that and hope to again once travel is easier.
Keep yourself healthy in mind and body .
I always feel better at DM airport - if I’m flying from there it means I’m off to the north or Esan - places I love and seeing old friends. I always buy a McDonalds at DM - literally it’s the only time I ever eat that c**p! 😂 Strangely by the time I’m at Suvarnabhumi to fly home I’ve already switched out of holiday mode into work mode and I just see the journey as a long trip to the office 😆.
Really good points though about the lifestyle pitfalls. Good self awareness helps. For me, I couldn’t be happy long term in Bkk (or any big city) I need to be much closer to countryside. And being outdoors as much as possible makes me feel a lot better. I have to take regular exercise - cycling, hiking, running to keep feeling my best mentally. And it’s important I’m always working towards some sort of goal(s) as well as having a few dependable friends.
Thanks so much for raising these topics man. I worked in BKK as an English teacher for a while and lived off Kao Sahn - saw so many car wreck expats and fell off the wagon myself so had to leave. Thailand can seem like the solution when you live in a routine in the west, but if you go, you need a serious plan and the discipline to make it happen.
Baha Pat, loved the happy ending.
Cheers
Not hard to lose your marbles if you've been partying hard for a fair length of time in the bar scene with all of its madness, need to break it up.
That awful feeling going back to London used to hit me in the taxi going to Don Muang with the sun on my neck on the back seat, still would rather that airport than the new one though (too big), lot of good points raised Pat.....cheers.
It's a terrible feeling no doubt! When I got back to London from Thailand, it was winter and raining hardcore.
I shouted "f*** off" as I got out of Heathrow airport.
I probably looked like a twat, but I can't be blamed for it, because Thailand is that addictive.
This is excellent, I’ve been only once in 2017 and fell in love with the place it was my first trip abroad so I tried other places like Vietnam Cambodia Bali since and now I am returning to Thailand on 31/12, I dream of retirement there but I need more of the insight you touched on , I look forward to seeing more of your videos
One of the best channels on TH-cam IMHO.
Had to subscribe. Great content, advice, subject and knowledge.
It's been 31 years since I've been there. Best trip of my life! I stayed away from all the tourist places and fell in love with the people and food.
See you very soon!
Thank you for sharing!
Cheers!
Welcome aboard and thanks for the kind words. I've just started increasing my video output as of this month so good timing I think...
@@BangkokPat Take your time. Your content and style is unique. You will do great I'm sure.
I did web development and marketing for 2 decades.
Keep it up man. You're going in a good direction.
Second view ,yes it can be heavy reality check to leave there ,and come back here to Sydney ,good video mate I hope I see you around up there next week or over January 🙏👍
Ok James, cheers mate, let's hope so.
Wow, for better or worse I can relate! Something about Bangkok can evoke an emotional response? You articulate it well. Some fall into the proverbial "rabbit hole" and are never the same and still others never come back!
Hey Pat, you have a great approach to all of your videos. Great content.
Thanks a lot, I'm gonna do a couple of extra videos along these themes, alcoholism will be one, the other will be about suicides....
Excellent video.
Oh we all remember the good old days
It was 1985 my first trip to Thailand and my other half telling me to tell everyone 'mai me dung' (have no money) which at 20 I didn't have anyway 😚 yes I preferred Don Mueang Airport also I don't know why.
First time getting off the plane, humidity, smell, fumes, noisy motorbikes, traffic, sweating like a pig, stayed at small Bangkapi condo waking up seeing 10 uni students sleeping living room floor and don't get me started on bathroom stories! My other half didn't tell me anything about hole in floor and cereal bowls for bathing 🤯😲 but after that yearly trips to Bangkok and now living here since 2004 so I don't know how I survived. 2 🏳️🌈 LTR (both 🇹🇭) 1st was 18yrs 2nd now nearly 22 years😬 time flies😰
Yes it's complicated. My condo has maybe 5 or 6 farang but we never talk, think it's like you said about avoiding prejudging. I don't think this pandemic is helping the already fragile mental health problems of some. I'm sorry to say this endemic is going to be a yearly thing so hang in there people. ☮ 🤐🙄
⚕ @ farang_deaths & I have posted farang 💀 on Twitter like you mentioned Suvarnabhumi airport many over the last 10 years....Not wanting to be flippant but Pattaya is more likely to be jump and Phuket is more likely to be push. So where you live in Thailand can be a major part in one's health.
The party stopped for alot of tourists(expats included)' about 6-7 years ago with increased paperwork, crackdown on Ed visas, border runs, 90 day reports, TM30s TM28s etc. Government Complex Immigration is a depressing place to go and get talked down to by Thai immigration 'officers' thankfully for me only once a year.
I've said too much already🤐
Thanks Lindsay. Quite a lot of people say Thailand is a state of mind and I can see why they say that it makes us do peculiar thing sometimes and local habits rub off on us for example the face issue, back in the UK I wouldn't give a damn about someone else and the expat status blah blah blah. But I do like to think I can tell when I'm being looked at in a deragatory way buy another foreigner it's usually the way they’re dressed and their appearance. we have a word to describe people like that where I come from and it's not really nice it's quite ignorant to use that word.
Arriving at Don muang was like a celebration, I never felt the same arriving at the new airport, too glossy too modern too well organized maybe. with Don muang I really felt like I was arriving in a completely foreign country that wasn't organized the same way as where I'd come from which was allegedly the modern world. I now count that modern world as the third world but that's just where I'm from in the UK.
hey migration has always been awkward from what I can see and there's difficult as it's made it's always doable but the longer you live here the more of a drag it becomes. the government are clearly hoping 2 attract people who only wanna stay spend their money and go after a couple of years possibly after losing their money through sheer stupidity which does happen a hell of a lot.
But through all that negative stuff and complicated process of going through life as an expat in Thailand there are some very lovely stories of those who made it through all this adversity and came out the other side. (I'm not one of them by the way, but I'm always working on it!)
fantastic editing. Very true about the more gloomy lighting at DM I remember it well when I first arrived in 1993.
Cheers mate. DM was gloomy but I always felt the same so I didn't really care. I've used it a few times since, it never changes!
Thanks Pat another great video and interesting topic. I have lived in the UK before for 3 yrs from Oz and it brought up loads of challenges, because you always take yourself with you wherever you go, so it’s important to expect that just like anywhere on the planet it will throw different challenges at you, and plenty of your own making if you aren’t being realistic, and that isolation whether by a language barrier or the difficulty in finding a good support network and like minded mate’s, moving to another country doesn’t solve your internal challenges it will definitely highlight them though. Wishing you well.
As always, interesting musings about an important topic...what happens inside of us when we’re in a place that’s like a huge carnival. Sometimes we stop feeling that carnival vibe. It’s a subject for more thorough thought about what we think will make us happy and how we discover, to our sadness, that we really don’t know what we need and what we want. To repeat, very few people vlogging even mention this omnipresent facet of our life - how we feel - and yet it is part of every person’s journey. Good on you, and good job for treating the subject as you have...with information, avoiding sentimentality, and allowing a thoughtful viewer to conclude that he should beaware that ‘everything that glitters is not gold’...and that perhaps our expectations are the key to whether we feel well or unwell. Heaven is Heaven and there’s no place on our travel itinerary that’s Heaven.
Thanks Dean, I suppose it's difficult to be honest and down to earth when you're also trying to build your own personality as a you tuber. You could be scared that the slightest doubt someone has well make you lose a subscriber. But there are some youtubers that are very sincere and I think many more want to be but they just don't know a way to bring it up in their videos because of their kind of subject matter they cover. That's my theory anyway!
I appreciate your reply, Pat. I think you’re probably right in part and simply being kind. We do our best when we’re our self, as you know well. In your case, it isn’t the number of people who view your channel, but rather who is viewing your channel. You say, Dean - you don’t understand the importance of numbers on TH-cam. Yet, I do. Let me explain: I think when the right person views your stuff, you’re going to get invited to speak to a group of perhaps organized expats, foreign chamber(s) of commerce, etc. about historical and current trends in a given neighborhood of Bangkok. From there, I believe things will go differently for you in a direction yet unimagined. The very intelligent viewer must conclude that your research skills alone applied to any locale or neighborhood independently of or alongside their market research is incredibly rare, useful, and valuable. You might want to think about how to indicate this research skill on your channel beyond demonstrating it - describing it, for instance - and wherever you’re telling people about your self. See if you can get with an honest and knowledgeable marketer and create a plan to introduce your self and your skills and your channel as a portfolio including targets for this plan. I see your channel here as a stepping-stone and a portfolio of the many things you do. For those who want information while we take care of our illusions and fun, your work is excellent and entertaining. Are you different than most vloggers? Yes...and brighter...and more informed. Yes, different and better. The right people have to see your work and you’ll be doing something new soon. Lastly, whether good fortune strikes you or not the quality, the relevancy, and the respect you give to Thailand and to the people of Thailand via your treatment of the subject sans sarcasm, comparison, or inuendo - the unlikeable traits of many visitors and guests to Thailand and to even our own countries is worthy of acknowledgement, recognition, and support. Stay the course and toot your horn - you have something unusual and special.
Absolutely spot on!……Ever since my first and every time since, which is +- 80 times, I used to get that really awful, depressing and sad feeling when leaving…….it’s impossible to explain to someone who’s never been……glad it’s not just me!
Some positive feedback here. Audio levels differ greatly while transitioning to new scene after 7:22 . Thanks for all your videos. It's a very enjoyable channel. 🙏
That's actually an older clip transitioning into a new clip. I tried to smooth it oevr but had to accept that any adjustment would sound odd.
The old clip is from the original Mental Health video a few months ago. This is a video based on that which was reshot for Thaiger Channel, but due to demand I finally put it officially on this channel.
@@BangkokPat Right on, Pat! Dang, your were on it !! Cheers
If your Canadian and, for what ever reason, find yourself penniless, the Canadian Consolate will help you with a plane ticket home. From what I have heard it would be in the form of a loan and mostly likely put on your tax bill. This would allow you to make it home, find work or Social Assistance, to get through your situation.
That's a useful safety net for those who need it. The UK govt had a scheme for Brits during 2020. maybe it's still going I'm not sure.
Terrific video..👍
Thank you 👍 Appreciate the kind words!
Great topic
Greetings from Vietnam where I have been for the last 30 years and where I would not want to ever leave except for holiday or family visit. This a is very good video on an important topic. The reasons to come to Thailand or Vietnam and the experiences here are not much different. In my opinion the key to being satisfied and indeed even happy is to have stable relationships and to avoid the obviously destructive behaviors of over indulgence. But quite frankly it is not always a simple choice but rather chemical balances and or imbalances coming into play. Existing problems are rarely left behind in home countries. Very often proper prescription drugs can help and to the extent possible should be evaluated for regular use when necessary and properly prescribed. Good luck to all. I have been to Thailand many times as we are so close and have always enjoyed my experiences there since my first visit in 1988.
i think its down to are you actually going to make something with your life. then do you like the culture and the women. if those two are in place i think you are going to have a comfortable life especially if you make enough to travel back as often as you need. Lots of people fall into the trap of its cheap so i need less work but then cant afford to leave. Now youre trapped w fear of how do i go live back home when its 3-10 more expensive!? AND ive got holes on my resume.
I have been fortunate to travel to a few different counties and normally after about 10 days I can’t wait to get back home but Thailand is different , the drive to the airport is normally very quiet and when we take the Escalator up to passport control and you have one last look at family or loved ones and then you know the holiday is over and then that strange feeling kicks in …….it’s over until next time !!!!. Interesting Vlog Pat well done on highlighting certain things . Stay safe
Bangkok is changing by leaps and bounds in the past few years.
It's changing in good ways and bad ways I think for the Thais it's definitelya lot more positive in terms of infrastructure and facilities. not sure about the inner workings of you know what..... But for the old people like me who keep complaining that Bangkok has lost its old school character it's quite tricky.
Bangkok is an incredible city and Thailand has incredible sights you don't find anywhere else in the world. The country is a virtual treasure trove of hidden gems and secret delights. Some of the foreigners are a different story however, so many have mental issues before they come and the laid back, hedonistic atmosphere either helps them or aggravates the native problems they have already. You really have to choose farang friends wisely in a place like Thailand.
Brilliant stuff...
Moved to Manila in 08. Heart would sink whenever I left so made it permanent.
Parallels the Thai experience.
But almost didn't survive that first few years! Mellowed out and been on a roll since.
Both Thailand and Phillipines are open, which would you advise?
@@unassailable6138 For me you need to visit both and decide. The Philippines won out for me mainly because of the SRRV visa and no real language barrier. Both countries have so much to offer. Good luck and God bless.
I am from Ireland and I am married to a Thailand woman. I said to my wife before I came here we would come for a year and see what it is like to live here. I can say with absolute certainty that I love it here so much. I will leave with a heavy heart, but we know we will return here in the future for good. This country is a paradise, I am safe in the fact that we both are going back to Ireland for the right reasons and building to live and move to Thailand for good in the future
Always more to enjoy in Thailand than coming back home can’t wait to come back next November for a very long visit this time. Always enjoy watching your videos Pat..
Thanks Geoffrey, life is what we make it I think.
Great vid Pat. Gnarly toads I call them. Became one for a bit but snapped out of it. If things aren't going well it's easy to take it out on Thailand and spiral down, especially if you've gone all in.👍
Cheers James. I've been through the same mate in my early days here, had to take a look at myself. But back then I had a different attitude and lived life on the edge at 100mph. Nobody's perfect and I still allow myself to have a moan every now and again, I tend to keep it to myself though.
Its bang on to describe it as a 'downer' upon leaving..i did a month in december,pcr test positive the day of my flight home,so did 10days quarantine,then 2days freedom before home.I literally had guts of lead sat in that airplane seat,then sat on settee looking at the grey skys from my living room in England.I made a decision right there to sell up,downsize and go every winter.Ive just accepted an offer on my house..stuff it.Choose Life 😎👍
You need routine, gym , 15000 steps per day , set three month goals , that break year into 4 , clean your condo …. Move move move , work on yourself, you need to be number 1 on list
Not girls or pixx , you need to build your own world the rest will take care of itself
10 years here never had a problem love the place like I turned up yesterday
Good luck
Your vid's r brilliant, keep up the great work.
not sure if you remember this one but back in the late 1990's early 2000's when you walked out of Don Muang Airport (before swampy) there was a little pop up bar? brilliant little place to get over your hangover on the plane.......also inside there was a restaurant where you walked through into like the back garden where you could smoke and drink and get blasted by 2 cold mist machines......great airport
over the past 24 years ive never felt too sad to be leaving but looking forward to get back
Actually Thailand is a GREAT place for your mental health if you stay long enough. You learn how to be patient, how to cope with not getting a straight answer about anything (or a correct one), you understand why there are about 20 Thai words that mean 'pedantic', you become very calm in dangerous situations (any Thailand road), and you stop trying to logic anything after a while. I recommend it for anyone with anger or impatience issues. Getting upset never resolves anything (even if it's deservedly so) 😬😤🙄😅
Hi Pat, very thoughtful and realistic view. I liked the old airport there was a fairly gloomy restaurant you could sit in once through customs you could sit in and calm down in.forget the name.
Thanks William, I think I know the restaurant you mean, but the name do you mean forget them the restaurant of the name whoever forget name anymore was you've just left behind?
I'm Thai, and this information is very surprised me. I had ever been in UK about 3 years, but i never ever feel something like these when I fly back to Thailand.
Maybe because you are Thai and are acclimatised already. This video is just realistic and honest, it's not an insult to anybody.
Great vid 👍
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great video. thanks.
What ever you say Bangkok Thailand will always make you happy and excited. Still a lot better than many big cities around the world. Once you get here you will feel it and understand what I mean.
Hi Pat. I've been enjoying all of your videos but the ones about mental health have piqued my curiosity. It's a nice little niche you have going there. I look forward to more tales from the seedy underbelly of Bangkok. And when you have a minute take a look at the writing of Lawrence Osborne an excellent novelist who lives in Bangkok. His books Bangkok days and The Glass Kingdom are top-notch.
Thanks Paul, I've only read Bangkok days but I really enjoyed it, and looking at his information now I didn't realize he was that old. thanks for the recommendation I will try a couple of his other titles!
I travel for a month now, its enough for me. I'm happy to come home and see the cat. But I do like Thailand always something to do and see.
That's very true, always something interesting here.
Gosh, been to Thailand ten times, always in the north, have no illusions about the country, could live there happily till my soul flies off, will close up shop here in the dull-as-owl-shit USA and come there, soon as the restrictions are lifted. You are a lucky man, Pat.
I'm sure it'll all work out soon Bruce, and you can live here happily...
The north is great spent a lot of time in Pai, only problem is no sea there. I hope you have enjoyed the beautiful islands down south as well
I had this bad feeling many times, not only when i left BKK but also Phuket and Koh Chang...
Be damned with my heart surgery recovery and having to be careful, I just had to jump up and start dancing to that background music at 3:45! Lol, LOL, lol! Awesome episode! That “Bridge Over Troubled Waters” subtitle was disturbingly poetic! I also just had a morbid thought/inquiry. I wonder how many people self destructed and wiped out (Bangkok blues) at the Don Muang Airport back during its heyday of being a major international airport? Also, there is a disturbing reality at 12:15 that’s totally the truth!
be careful@ Scott D ^^
Cheers Scott, I think Don Muang had a more calming effect than the new place, due to it being darker and smaller and with better seating areas. The new one is all bright lights and hard seats with nowhere to sit hidden so you can sulk. People love reading about others misery and it's a sad reality but maybe some of those enjoying it more are closer to that than they think.
Great and honest view..All so inspiring...
Thanks Brian, happy new year mate.
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Fantastic vlog & topic Pat.
You hit the nail on the head in how many people feel when leaving Thailand, or indeed their favourite overseas destination.
My last time in Thailand was before Covid & it took months to rid myself of the blues afterwards.
Longing to be there asap.
This vlog deserves to be shared by all, it's that good & on point. Well done Pat.
Another interesting video....I think it would be easy to go off the rails fast in Bangkok
Certainly isn't difficult, that's for sure.
It gets to you after so many years. Also depending on where you live. I love Bkk but a very tough city to live in. Kanchanaburi the best.
Sehr guter Beitrag,danke.
Did you know Pat that the name Suvarnabhumi Translates to. The Land of Gold The airport was designed by a British engineer and is the 5th largest free-standing building in the World. .First time I arrived in Bangkok in April 93 I was in transit to Hanoi and the old airport only had one terminal then and the Thai Army use to have a top-class golf course there part of Don Muang was a military Airbase...I think Khun Thaksin oversaw the construction of the new airport just think of the billions of Baht that airport has generated for Thailand, Love your videos, Pat they bring back a lot of happy memories, especially Bangkok.
Thanks Louis, l still prefer Don Muang though, the other one is an awful soulless place.
@@BangkokPat I Like the new airport Pat but Terminal 2 at Heathrow pretty impressive especially the Fuller Beer Lounge.
The grass is always greener on the other side hey Pat! "OR IS IT"?
Depends what grass and it depends what's on the other side Bill. We love to hope it is greener on the other side but sometimes we arrive there and we have to adapt to whatever color it is quickly and we can come out of the other side with lots of tragic stories to tell or we use our brains and discipline and end up living happily ever after. it's never ending journey and we're always buying one way tickets so we always have to work to move on to what we think is the next step up! does that sound like some deep **** to you? Just kidding...
@@BangkokPat My comment was a little vague i admit... What i meant was " for some people, moving to a new country is a way to escape the sadness their current location has bought them. (the Greener grass part) When in fact, it's not the location that is the issue. Their sadness is still within! " (OR IS IT)
Good one Pat. I have taken many depressing flights home not sure if it was from leaving Thailand or the thought of a 23 hour flight.
Maybe both.
Sadly their are still guys pointing out grammar mistakes on forums. Keeps them busy I suppose.
The key to maintaining your mental health in Thailand is to go home for a few years. A reset every once and a while is needed to remind you of the great things in Thailand.
I used to go home once a year during December, for some cold weather and fresh air and a reset. Worked wonders. 3-4wks of London soon made me miss the mayhem though.
Time and progress nowhere stand still, the bkk or thailand that I saw 23 years ago and experienced for 2 years is long gone, people have changed too, king bumipol said on his 70th birthday he would like from his people they may keep the old traditions, I doubt it was heard
"TIT" ☺️ I think most of us can recall back to the first time a person introduced us to this phrase.
after several years experience with the SouthEast I easily found a balance within pros and cons, so I really can't understand those who have been living there for some time and want to leave due to some social incompatibility.... just give me a decent, somehow safe job and I move there tomorrow.
I love to come and I love to go...nothing depressing just pure joy...ding dong falang
I've overstayed a few times ! 😁
I won't say anything, don't worry!
I've known guys who've lived here a while but they get bitter , angry , I say sabai sabai. I was lucky ,I already knew a couple of people from back home who lived in Bkk, plus I met many more foreigners and Thai people by going to watch Port FC play football in the Khlongtoei area at the PAT stadium.
Too late for that! Not really, but you really don't want to argue with Thai people over things that really don't matter. Stay relaxed, smile a lot, and have a sense of humor and all will be good.
Thanks Greg, spot on mate!