EXPAT MENTAL HEALTH IN Thailand 2: Alcohol, Thai girls, Scams, Money, Social Media. A very bad mix
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- EXPAT MENTAL HEALTH IN Thailand 2: Alcohol, Thai girls, Scams, Money, Social Media.
The story of a self confessed idiot as he attempted to change his life by moving from London to Buriram to marry a woman he met online. The combination of booze, awful women, bad decisions, scams and living your life online can only end one way, and that’s messy.
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I was engaged to a Thai girl before the pandemic. Her family wanted a lot of money for me for the singsod thing. I later found out she had a huge credit card debt and she was well behind on her car payments for her Honda city sedan. It was evident to me that she didn’t love me and was just using me to inherit her debt and pay it off for her. The last I heard from her was that the court in Thailand had summoned her but because of the first lockdown during the pandemic her court hearing had been postponed. I used the pandemic as an excuse to leave Thailand and sever all ties with her and her family. I was pretty heartbroken but I realized that I had dodged the biggest bullet of my life. Never doing that again!
Well done!
I am very sorry to hear. May I ask how much the age difference was ?
Knew a friend with a similar story, she was a beauty queen, young attractive, amazing in bed, but had the personality of a trash bin, plus had two kids! He managed to escape, just, but it was hard on him.
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Just don’t get it how the man can’t figure out the situation and felt in the trap.
Standing ovation for your well told cautionary tale of a true tragedy.
Thank you very much Scott, definitely a tale of sadness but hard to sympathize !!
well told!
So glad to have found your channel, one of the few I've seen that gives a balanced, rational view, instead of the ranty, ego-driven fantasist perspectives that emanate from some Thailand vloggers.
The cartoon based stories, such as that of Nok and John, featured on Thailand Bound's channel, are great and much more engaging!
Hi Blue Dragon, thanks for the kind words! I set out to make the channel as different to the other vloggers personalities as I could. Maybe I should be more egocentric and a narcissist to get the subscribers but I don't know how I can do that without looking like some phoney so I avoid all that boasting and virtue signalling.
The guys at Thailand Bound were nice enough to let me use their pics as I thought it best represented John!
@@BangkokPat keep it as it is. Very different from many other vloggers.. 👊
Brillant way of convaying a very important point. Sadly stories like that of John's happen far too much.
Thanks Robin, John was duped but he'd not bothered to resarch online about the pitfalls of such relationships. Like many guys, they think it'll be different for them.
WC Field said "Never give a sucker an even break"...and there is another old saying...“A Fool And His Money Are Easily Parted”
My dad is a fan, and I'm familiar with those!
Mate! You outdone yourself again! Well produced! 🤩
Thanks Chai mate, hope you're doing good on the beaches of koh Samet, looks lovely there.
Gosh, I've been to Thailand ten times and never had anything but fun. I realized long ago that all relationships are transactional, and if the Thai bar girls tried their best to make me believe they loved me, I knew it was not me they loved, but I was so grateful for the fantasies they created for me, I willingly met their needs in the form of cash, always more than they asked for. And I don't begrudge Thai women their schemes to get my money. After all, were it not for the income disparity, why would any lovely young Thai lady spend time with a geezer such as myself?
You can I think , meet someone ‘low key’ and not a transactional girl .. but yes few and far between .. pot luck I guess
Isn’t it always transactional. I have a very rich older friend in the UK who is and older guy and he’s with a young sexy blonde. He understands the deal and doesn’t let her take him for more than he can afford. I think that’s the key here unless you are happily married. Understand what the deal is. They want you for 1 purpose and 1 purpose only. You want them for 1 purpose only. Usually because we are older men and they are gorgeous SE Asians that are the stuff of male fantasy. As I said earlier, don’t pay what you can’t afford long term. As my friend said to me. “Don’t ever marry the pretty ones”🤣
Agree with this comment.
Common Sense. Worldwide.
You mean trans-actional? XD
Excellent report. I have lived and worked in Thailand, married a Thai - still going strong after 27 years. Living in the UK. One big problem with Thailand is foreigners can't own land or houses or work without permits, this forces the gullible to buy property in their wive's names - and this often ends up a disaster. Lots of Johns still in Thailand.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍4 Thailand!
If only all other countries were that wise, too many politicians allowing foreign nationals to buy what isn't theirs.
A sad story indeed, and RIP John, you're in a better place now. Still, I have never understood how a man from a rich western country, with all the material needs satisfied, would want to pack up his stuff and start a new life in a poor Asian province with someone he barely knows. And then when things go horribly wrong, we Thais, as you can see in some comments, get tarred as wicked lizards, manipulative, etc.
It's hard to believe that men are still falling for this kind of scam when it's been so well documented
And there's still a line of them waiting for the same thing too!
Thinking with the wrong head.
@@drirene57 I get what you're saying but in this kind of story I disagree. It's neither 'head' but its the heart. I feel like I've seen it (and been him?) so many times now. It's men who've had tragic divorce(s) and/or strings of failed attempts, some just never really met the right one and middle age comes along. 40 is coming and going, 50 arrives. This kind of man can have several converging matters of the heart:
1. What is life without someone to love, the special other, a romantic at heart really, marriage, a home, get old together
2. Whether it's to show the parents, the circle of friends and family or an ex-wife ex/gf - finally he's got a pretty lady!
3. The existential crisis of middling-aged men that stares into the abyss. What gives life meaning?
This is why a brilliant MIT professor got duped into carrying drugs for a fictional South American 'fiance', this is why a seemingly street savvy British bus driver is absolutely trusting and to the end believing it's surely all worth it and nope he's no dummy, no naive fool, is otherwise good at warning other mates of nefarious women and yet he goes blind. It's how Marc Anthony, capable of brilliant greatness and outsmarting entire armies kills himself over some Egyptian woman after effing his life, her life, his countrymen and friends lives too and even hers. (she probably didn't kill herself and split some money with her aunty) and on it goes.
This kind of man isn't a teenage boy nor even a desperate 40 year old virgin either but almost certainly did all that just fine for plenty of years and would, if anything, are now desperate for something beyond sex, more meaningful and to their own peril, for reasons beyond the physical pleasures of life. These are matters of the heart imo, almost always.
@@theasianjaywalker4455 they do it to teenage boys too. People with aspergers, autism, any social anxiety, trauma’s.. its not only thai either, many asian girls have a few guys online to cash a monthly stipend, promising them everything but eventually deliver nothing..
i think this every time is see someone talk about being scammed, it my be that i dont trust people but you can all ways see them a mile off. but as i said tthat my just be me but there are people out there that cant see it, i had a frend that had her facebook hacked and the account sent me 1 message and all it said was "hi how are you" and just from that i know it was not her. but not everyone is thatt lucky i guess.
I've seen two of your videos and enjoyed them very much and have subscribed. Re this one, I came to live in Thailand 31 years ago, met a girl in a bar and married her 3 months later. She is 20 years younger than me and at that time had a 3 month old baby. Fast forward to 2021 - we are still very happily married and my step daughter is living well in New York. My wife owns our house, but I can't see her kicking me out at this stage in our lives. She has a good job and I now get a pension. It can happen - it can turn out well. You can let me know if you want more details.
Thanks Robert, it's not all doom and gloom. For every failure there's success stories, must depend on circumstances and attitudes, expectations and all that. Good to hear that you're very much in a great situation. Poor old John didn't have it so easy but he's got himself to blame as well.
@@BangkokPat yes - one needs plenty of life experience before switching to a place like Thailand. Having said that I am another Thai wife success story - 28 years already. Even if I don't last another year it was successful on a European scale. BTW: there are plenty of online love stories reversing the sexes. I guess people only see what they want.
Usually single Mums are looking for help, not love.
Almost as bad as the western guy who buys a house and eventually gets kicked out of the relationship. The house is in her name, he can’t afford to back to his country, runs out of money, sleeps rough, overstays his visa, is afraid of immigration as an overstayed visa is a large fine or jail, ends up begging for food and ........I think you get the picture!
A well told cautionary tale Pat. John's suicide is certainly tragic but until you revealed that twist to the story my only thoughts were that this guy is really quite naïve. His inability to read the situation, bad decisions, coupled with his active alcoholism was his undoing. Why would you marry someone who you've never spent time with, doesn't speak your language then buy her a house and a business? I don't get it. Great vid as always.
And he was quick to tell everyone like it was some big revelation.
The online world can be unforgiving, and John had an audience to please. Sadly it comes with a downside.
Thank you Michael, he was definitely naiive but didn't realise until too late. That's why I said the question was open ended at the start, because there is no answer as to why these guys take such risks with these women!
Committed to the dream in his mind. Trying to be optimistic etc. That's the charitable way to look at things, we've all been like this in life at one point, or several.
At my age (a hair from 40) I've got enough experience to earn my cynicism.
It can happen bus driver falls in love then it go's south and he's an alcoholic can't deal with it, it happens alot normally they go broke and leap out of there condo. So glad I have over a year sober. I did this same thing and it worked for me we've been married 13 years, RIP driver.
Alcohol can be fun, but the downside is that alcohol affects one's memories. I remember enjoying pulling out 10,000 B with my ATM card every day for 3 months, I partied every day of course, the only problem is, I could hardly remember what I did. The only night I could remember is the night I barfined 4 girls out of Titanium bar (Sukhumvit Soi 22) and took them to Nana Plaza to party.
Beauteousness is enough, to catch somebodies eye - to stay in memory, it needs a good character
Sad story, but I have to say the way you put it across was fantastic. I think you should do more of these types of Thailand stories for sure. All the best.👍
Thanks James, That was a story made up of bits of a story I heard in 2006-7. Didn't know the guy personally. I saw your vid last week and was thinking to do another vid about loneliness and go a bit deeper, stuff about what triggers guys into such sad situations, and be totally open and honest about the causes. Might get a few dislikes but some things need airing. Cheers mate.
@@BangkokPat Men are led into these situations due to being lonely and vulnerable. These poor girls know this, its their only hope to make a better life. I know many of us have had near misses until we woke up, me included.
agreed, really well produced video with deep meaning!
I sat next to a grossly overweight (borderline morbidly obese) young man on a return flight from Thailand many years ago . He was returning from his first trip to the Land of Smiles where he had become engaged to the girl of his dreams . They had met online . He showed me her photo , she was an absolute stunner . The lad was over the moon . He loved how Thai women "didn't care about physical appearance" (his words).
I have often wondered what became of that young man .
My Thai wife and I were staying in Bangkok about ten years ago , just around the corner from Soi Cowboy. We stopped into an internet Cafe/ photo printing shop to have a photo book made up of my parents first trip to Thailand.
While we were waiting we noticed a young lady in her Soi Cowboy "work uniform" sending heartfelt emails to her list of 5 or more (she had a notebook) farang boyfriends on several different continents .
Friends , it's a jungle out there , hope for the best , but plan for the worst .
A lot of foreigner can't fine a woman in there own country it much be a reason why! Don't jump in any relationship unless you know the woman you are interest in at least 2 years. Some woman just looking for someone with money you have to be careful.
Many of these guys don't think with their brains.
Unfortunately if you give, people will take and often without any appreciation. It is sensible to be aware of such scams but not be too guarded to be closed rather than open to the adventures in life wherever they may be. God bless John and thanks for sharing
Not sure who thought he was a bigger mug, the family or the lawyer. Sad story but it happens over and over. Thanks mate.
It's easy to say he was a fool with the Internet today. But people in 2022 easily forget how things used to be.
Yeah but he was old (like me) and was familiar with the world before the internet. He knew the difference between reality and the online fake reality.
Someone the other day asked me how I get on without a woman in my life, easy I replied, I bought a dishwasher..
Blimey, you’re standing outside soi7 beer garden!…..legendary!!…..man oh man have I had some outrageous times in there!!…..what a place!
It's comical that this actually happens. If a guy would just go to Asia and hang out for a while (and spending a good deal of time outside the loser bar hangouts) he'd see it's pretty easy to meet good women, with normal lives and real jobs.
So comical that it's tragic that guys actually think these types of women are all Thailand has to offer. But those that only hang out in places like Pattaya think all of Thailand is like that and become jaded, bitter and angry that it's not the paradise that they expected.
id say John is a total mouthbreather😅
Pat(?)
Your videos are a slow burn (like heartburn?)
- Good content - interesting stories
Here's a virtual beer.
-Keep up the work.
God knows most men make big mistakes with women...I have. That said I am very careful these days. Single , enjoy women and sign nothing when it comes to women and relationships.
Nobody functions properly as alcoholic , a true alcoholic will tell you they can , but truth is they are at point they can’t function without…… anything that comes quick comes at a price , humans only worry about themselves, you need years before a partner will truly believe u , that’s life that’s fact ….. rules to exception but not many
I'm thinking in the next 10 years ill move to Bangkok and become an alcoholic but now that you can smoke weed I might be a pothead... I can't imagine being a white guy in my mid to late '50s moving there and not getting drunk practically all the time. I hope they have bowling leagues or something for me to do
I feel bad for John but damn, what do you expect? Telling anyone from anywhere while online that you'll take care of them would have them and their close ones believing your a walking ATM...
It said we all have Doppelgänger. I believe we all have a person somewhere , out there who can understand us better than we can understand ourselves, who can manipulate us without our being aware, and who can recognize our inner weaknesses , guilt , and fears with only a minimum of effort.This is one of the talents an experienced sex worker must develop.
I’m stunned that oddballs, weirdos and simpletons seem to be more likely to go off in search of a mythical paradise……
Well that was a depressing story.
But a good warning for others
Just learn Thai and get off the internet and meet some nice girls.
Happy new year all.
The land of smiles has taken so many and it will take so many more!
There will always be space for more. There is a queue waiting to get in here and fall for that same old story again and again.
LOS = Land of Scams. Heard too many such stories.
Right, land of smiles as soon as a farang comes in sight....
If a male od married and returns to bars the same with a female the foods they depend on for this thoughts are to be fiver3d say I have a early child hood trauma and I correct this with grasses and semiskimed milk. Find the foods so the more m3ind Ingatestone this by waters taxation beongs foods of his or her needs to ballance also 2
I'm not even 5 minutes in and this is already sounding like a fleecing nightmare...LOL!
Stick with it mate, it gets better!
@@BangkokPat You're right, it did...
Some bad karma coming their way I think hope they are ready. RIP John lad.
Definitely a sad story, despite his stupidity he didn't deserve that.
I've lost count of how many times I've received messages on Facebook from girls in Thailand asking for money. It's hilarious lol!
Anyway, no more PayPal in Thailand, the girls must be so upset 🤣
Paypal is actually carrying on as before, they obviously came to an arrangement of some kind so you may be tempted....
@@BangkokPat But I thought PayPal changed their policy in Thailand where only registered business users can use it? Unless of course, there's been a U-turn and things went back to normal.
@@RyuRaza I got a message 3wks ago saying that there were no changes after all. Imagine the face loss for Paypal Thailand having to write that
Omg. I was on a train from London to Brighton in 2015 which was held up due to someone committing suicide on the track. Must have been this poor bloke. Another one of these tragic stories involving guys chasing online wives in Asia. Awful.
Surely a coincidence Peter, unless you could trace the news to that day and it was a 54yo man, then it gets creepy! Many blokes like John think their bit of online skirt will be 'different' and sadly many Thai women get tarred by the sam brush.
My brother lived there for a while (for obvious reasons) but never got sucked in too much - he refers to Asian women as 'lizards''
I dont get how peope can live in another country with limited funds.
Really enjoyed the story but I didn't get a notification even though I'm subscribed
Hi Peter, bit of a tragic ending but it goes to show, there's always a queue of mugs in line. Bit of reserach and brains would help but many leave their brains at the airport as you know!
Great video , Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
Hi Pat
I'm quite new to your channel.
An observation ;
The topic is not without importance but I thought it was a topic at variance with your normal presentations.
Where are the khlongs and the alley cats ?
I thought the topic was somewhat depressing and not unique to Bangkok or Thailand.
Oh ..yes....tangentially..
You mentioned in a video I recently viewed that you had great appreciation of Edward Woodward as the equilizer .. surely your too young to watch at that time?
regardless
Thanks for another interesting and informative vlog.
Cheers !!
You sound like a tough guy to please
Part I Mental health TIT
th-cam.com/video/pDcvHYJ4zgI/w-d-xo.html
.men do amazingly stupid things when they are thinking with the wrong head....how you could not be aware when it comes to Europe men in Thailand its ALWAYS about the money..... terrible outcome but he really did keep one mistake after another....
He brought it all on himself, right until the end. Sad but true.
Oh, Pat! I think its time for you to write a book
Took me long enough to make this video!
From fools to kings alcohol will never be your plaything but the complete opposite.
It will destroy you and everyone around you and it will do it without mercy.
Only if you abuse it.
Of course they only look at you as an ATM. As long as you know that from the start you can do ok.
Obviously John didn't know that at the start because his girl was different of course!
Well sometimes you just can't teach a silly bugger some plain old common sense! Sucks for him.
Common sense seems to disappear with these guys and they don't think with their brains!
It’s not uncommon in transactional love like John had with his young Thai wife. Living at the wife’s hometown wc is basically her fortress is a bad choice on John’s part. Even local Thai males avoid doing that if they have the choice. He should had brought his wife live with him in London or Bangkok.
I prefer non-English speaking women:)
Over the years different versions of this farang /Thai girlfriend story / tradgey drama must have played out countless times in Thailand . Well told story from BK Pat .
Thanks Max, It's definitely a familiar tale and many never learn!
Nice and refreshing storytelling Pat. The story was sad and I guess alot of these kind of stories happens every day somewhere in asia (and also in other areas outside of asia).
Thanks Franko, It happens to quite a few old women who fall for young waiters in Latin America, I read a story on it, some of those young guys are so much like these Thai women you hear about. But as you say it's not only Thailand!
Yeah,it was sad that. Been a few ,I hope not daily thou.c19 has mixed things up even more for relationships,both Thai n none Thai having bad heads.
Let's hope ppl get more information from ppl like pat and the others 🙏
Loved the style of story telling n back drops..poor john gob smacked British rail finished him off...he shudda jus paid some1 to torch the laundry.
Thanks! I thought the various locations would be less boring than me sitting on a chair telling the whole thing. There's no telling guys like John, he doesn't use his brain in his head. Many stories like his, sadly.
Great cautionary tale. I'd never spend more than 5% of my total savings on investments in a non western country. Or any country fot that matter where the contracts are not in my native English.
Jesus Christ Pat, amazing that these guys are so desperate as to fall for this bolliks. Thailand is a desperate mans grave yard but a well balanced man will have the time of his life. Cheers mate. Nice to see you hangin out in front of my Condo.
Thanks Terry, at last, someone who sees the story for what it is!
Very interesting upload and beautifully presented-timing-shots -facts etc all worked well . Not my normal field of view ,so to speak, but well worth the watch -thanks ,
Very nicely told. I am sure this story happens way to often. Very sad. I am a terrible listener, but you are easy to listen too and a good story teller.
Thanks, a painful story indeed, and men don't learn from mistakes..... & there's still a queue of guys waiting to come into Thailand, to go through the same thing.
Hi Pat both parts to this series have been very thought provoking, Such a sad ending for John heart breaking really all he wanted was the dream he thought it would be, The amount of guys who do this journey thinking moving to a new country where they are not used to the food, weather or language and you have never spent a lot of time with a women you are going to marry will solve their issues. unfortunately some chase a dream without waking up until its too late. Stay Safe Pat and thanks for taking the time to make this vlog.
Hi Jimmy great to hear from you, glad you liked the videos. John had himself to blame but nobody deserves to be driven to suicide. Like many before him and many after, it's a cycle that'll go on and on. A fool and his money are soon parted.
@@BangkokPat true. John should’ve sorted out his drinking problem BEFORE departing the UK. He should’ve travelled there on holiday a few times. Heck, he needed to clean himself up! He may have eventually met someone that didn’t require money money money and have a normal life anywhere in the World. He thought a woman can fix it. No. Fix yourself first! Great video. 👍
Sad story, luckily I am now 70 years old and been through similar life events and I’am still alive and enjoying my Thai life for 3 years and longer hopefully 🤞
Scammers search for looser. An addict is somewhat a looser already, but when he starts to write a blog about it, thats the worst. It literally says: I am a looser, look, they could scam me, so you can do it too. Other than that I am sorry for John, and a story worth to be told!
Low IQ is often a problem...
Good video Pat! This is an all too common story; you could be speaking about a number of people I've known over the years here. It should be a must watch for all the future 'Johns' out there. T-shirt tekkers - King Robbo shirt for the win...
Thanks Jimbo mate, It's a well worn path travelled but I thought this one had a few twists that needed to be told. Robbo was a fearsome looking guy when I was a kid, and many writers were in awe. I never knew him personally but his spat with Banksy said a lot about how selective the mainstream are when it comes to balls!!
Loved the way u told this story, hope this can wake some ppl up so they can get help.
Thanks Andy...I think that's not possible! Many of those guys don't think with their brains...
This is one of your best videos. Hope your creative ideas will not fade away.
Thanks Kurt, I'm working on something similar at the moment.
Love the take away from Nat and Dave. Please keep these sorts of stories coming. They are in high demand :)
Thanks! I was wondering if I'd get away with doing another similar story, maybe one with a happier ending. I got a couple from the old days.
@@BangkokPat of course you have Patrick and you done this one well. I saw a comment after I heard the fella topped himself. Shame to see you had no empathy when you replied.(it was an early comment I think)
Hope BKK ain't jading you .
I think many of us go thru that don't wanna be wrapped round farangs in general but I don't like them who give that whiff of superiority.Its a fine line imo .comes with wisdom I think Pat.
You're a North LdN lad I believe
A bit different in many ways here eh . All the breast Pat
Albeit a tragic ending, an excellent story. Thank you Pat. All the best. Mitch 🙏
Hi Mitch, thanks for the kind words, familiar tale of shattered dreams and mistakes, but with a twist!
The Buriram guy is just one of thousands that do little research, gets involved with the wrong crowds, drowns himself in booze, tends to have zero hobbies, takes dangerous advice from other morons on TH-cam and elsewhere, makes zero effort to learn the language with multiple excuses, gets involved with either bar girls or black widows that have zero mercy for anyone stupid enough to take the bait. There is always another sucker waiting in line out of desperation. I see them everywhere in the foreign slums. Very easy to recognize them. They tend to have a cloud of doom hanging over them.
Excellently put, that's spot on. Irresponsible too, he was a bus driver for 20yrs yet still got drunk every night and passed out.
These guys have a high opinion of themselvesto others, like they know something about the country you don't, if you ever talk to those types, I've met many over the years.
@@BangkokPat You would think after perhaps thousands of stories over the years they would know better. I have met more than a few and the last guy (drunk) kept showing up at my home for advice. It was like talking to a wall. I got to the point I told him to leave. Like thousands of others, his life just continued to spiral downwards. I tend to have many more Thai friends than foreigners that I trust. I am happily living in Nakhon Nowhere now with little or no drama. These guys tend to just creep me out and thankfully most don,t wander far from the foreign hubs. By the five-minute mark, I already knew the ending. But really enjoyed the show hope to see more on various downfalls for those that are willing to listen.
Thank you for the story. Be careful out there. There are so many Noks in Thailand.
Many Johns as well!! In every sense of the word. Common tale of course as many men don't think with their brains.
Watching this video again 😢.. where is this walk along the river Pat ? Near Bang Po station 🚉 ?
Yes it was at Bang Pho, it's all renovated now for the new pier
@@BangkokPat great , shall try it out , looking forward to your next video 🙏
I know a guy who had a very similar story (but without such a tragic ending, but he did end up broke) he got taken for a ride with a Thai wife and her family. We all saw it coming a mile off from the first time he got involved with her. He sent money to her all the time after only meeting her on holiday. She was a bar girl who asked him to send her money so she didn't have to go and sell herself. My friend was totally blind yet totally in love with some girl he hardly knew, who lived half way around the world. We all tried to warn him, but it fell on deaf ears, and his attitude was as if we was all jealous and trying to get in the way. All we could do was sit back and say 'i told you so' when it was all over. He even got ripped off in the divorce with so called 'Thai laywers' demanding money for the divorce to go through smoothly. I felt sorry for him but he was so naive. Since then he has married a Philipino lady and we all thought 'oh no! Here we go again'. But thankfully this marriage seems to have gone OK. This new wife has come to the UK, she goes out to work, they have 2 young kids, and they have been happily married for 8 years now. The new wife definitely seems genuine and a nice girl. Perhaps at first she may have seen it as a free ticket out of her poorer country, but she has seemed loyal for 10 years now and I have never seen any hint of her trying to take advantage of my friend. I guess this story just goes to show that not all foreign brides are just out to rip you off, and that there are plenty of genuine ones out there too, but you definitely do have to be careful.
Great little episodes Pat! I haven’t been that lucky here in Amazing Phuket. Just living with my traditional Thai wife.
awesome video
Thanks, Pat. Parts 1 and 2 are very insightful. I think the challenge for immigrés to Thailand is establishing realistic expectations for life post-arrival and I suppose there are countless stories of unrealistic dreams being shattered. I have found in my experience that expats who are not successfully integrating into Thai (or any foreign) society tend to draw inward into like-minded circles of similarly disaffected persons that serve as negative feedback loops which only to greater depression and paradoxically greater loneliness. I've seen this before in Europe, the Middle East, and Asia, and is not a problem confined to Thailand; but I would add that Thailand's magic appeal probably makes the rude awakening even ruder. Insightful and educational videos such as yours may help to reduce these cases in the future; so, thank you for that. Cheers, Sir. RPS
A lot of farang deaths
Whatever happened to Stickman Bangkok?
He's still going from what I've seen.
Very sad story. Even I am Thai I still have to be careful about Thai woman because you don't know them at all. You don't know what kind of family or education they have. It is the same everywhere when you looking for a woman you much take time to know her first. You have to look around and choose the one you think she the best. Take your time and don't think I just slept with her and now I am responsible for her because she is Thai. Time is changed some Thai woman will sleep with you before marries but some with acting it a big deal just to get you marries her. But some are real they don't sleep around and having sex is not something they do when they like someone and they like to do it when you really going to marries her.
You hang around bars, you will be scammed.
Some don't associate the two and get burned.
First time I went to Thailand 2 decades ago I met a guy on my way who said he’s meeting his future wife. He had been prior so had seen her in person.
When this guy and I went to one of those bars, there she was! “WTF?” I thought. She looked at me and asked me to sit with her. She didn’t know I knew the guy. “Right, so you’d like some fun with me eh” I thought.
She kept looking at me but of course, this guy and her agreed to get married and go to the village. I felt sorry for both of them. He thought he hit the jackpot but she’s only with him for the cash and eventually probably move on with someone she truly loves.
I’m glad I noticed this on the first day/night. I didn’t believe anyone and just had a good time, left with a smile. It was nice to feel like a king albeit as long as I had some money to keep everyone happy.
Thailand is great for a holiday. Heck, it’s a great place to retire for a few months of the year too! I wouldn’t stay permanently nor would I get involved with anyone heavily. Have your fun, be respectful and GTFO until your next holiday.
There are good and bad women everywhere, all over the World. 👍
Thanks Joseph, that had me laughing out loud when she asked you to sit with her!
One of the first commercials I directed in the US was for a service that gave many a their first access to the web. Yet all it really did, was except for burning through tons of money for venture capitalists, was to give people a taste of how seductive the ability to manufacture yourself online could be. Aside from addiction issues and simple naivety, it sounds like John had more than a touch of that syndrome. Great piece, definitely a cautionary tale.
Hi Luke, hope you're good. They both invented themselves and fantasised I think, and when these two online entities meet, things don't go to plan. Happens a lot, happened to me with online dating but I was only doing it in Bangkok, I met many dates who weren't the person they made out to be (and in some cases the same size as their photos) and on a couple of occasions I had to feign illness and leave, it was that bad. Not sure if John deserved what he got but a little research beforehand would have done done wonders for the outcome.
Sad and sort of Shakespearean.
Thanks, never thought it'd ever get described like that!!
Very sad, but its not the first time I have heard of these stories. You did a great job of telling it.
Thanks Steve, it's a common theme for many guys who believe their girl is different and would never do that.
There’s a book in Thailand called “money number 1” it should be compulsory reading for any single men heading to Thailand
I reckon many do read it and think their girl is different and they can never be so stupid.
@@BangkokPat I think you’re probably right about that. That’s the only explanation for such acts of stupidity
Huge red flags from the start of the story
The red flags are obvious from the first couple of sentences!
Pat that I as a masterpiece another tragedy. Keep up the great work mate. At last someone telling the truth of how it truly is. 🙏
Thanks very much, so glad you've found the channel mate. I just be realistic, not trying to shock anyone, as many already know what it's all about.
Well that was uplifting 😢
That was the most optimistic version of the story I could tell, and I really did my best.
@@BangkokPat I know there tragic tales ov relationships in any country, my personal view as having visited this lovely country many times is that the people make a country and I’ve always found there to be ov the nicest people on earth!
@@davidwilliamson9162 Agreed David.
Just stumbled on your channel really enjoying it congratulations ! I was my early 20s when I first went to Thailand , and quickly learned things are never what they seem. It amazes me to this day that western men are still being made of fool of !! don’t they ever learn ? leave it at the airport buddy that’s my advice . If you’re looking for a good woman who’s good with business and honest try Hong Kong .
Right from the moment you introduced the three main actors in this story (John, Nok and the "Auntie"), they all played their parts perfectly and not one of them deviated from the script one iota.
Thanks Paulie, they sure earned their money, it's as if they all knew the script! It's a well trodden road, even now there are men lined up waiting to arrive and meet their online GFs for the first time after chatting for over 18 months now!
@@BangkokPat I'm sure you are right Pat. By and large, these are men who have managed to reach their middle ages and have never learned to relate to women in their own country as human beings. Suddenly in a moment of clarity they decide that the subservient Asian woman is the answer...........
@@paulietv2162 Then they complain that they can't find deep and meaningful conversations with these simple women they hand over all this cash to..
What a sad story...if you've never been conned then you've done well in life!
Definitely. I've not been blatantly conned like he was but indirectly we all get conned somehow in relationships..
So..? the moral of the story was to see your therapist "Before' going to Thailand?? I dont get it?? OR!.., dont drink and go to Thailand?? Dont borrow money from your mum to go to Thailand????
I think a whole new channel dedicated to Thai - farang relationships could be created. Such a large percentage of them end up on the rocks with the farang being financially bled dry. My advice to any guy in Thailand. "love em for no more then 3 days then move on, stay sane, do not be a SIMP"
Guys fall for it on a daily basis, Thailand Bound channel reads out stories and tells tales with their animated cartoon series. People never learn.
I just dont get it--yet i do. Everybody goes through a point in their life where they come to the Rubicon. With will power and support of family you make the right decision. Without this you end up like John---.
I see where you're coming from Bolt Man, but the problem with guys like John is they thinking with their other head and go from there. All sane thinking goes out the window, sounds simple I know, but many guys won't grasp that.
@@BangkokPat Agreed--Nobody was there to give his 'head' a shake'. Anyways I find the channel interesting--Im sold. Subscribed😀
A helluva yarn. I used to belong to Lonely Planet's Thornbush. There were a lot of good and informative discussions but there was also an element that seemed to be composed of insecure types.Trolls , I guess you would call them.I would occasionally get offended by them but I often wondered if this was all the power they ever had in their lives.
Another great video Pat, I hope your doing well
classic scam, I lived in Bk for nearly 3 years in the late 90s, I had a pal though that got absolutely fleeced with a scam similar but it went on for about 5 years, he wouldn't listen to any of us.
not only he was scammed once but twice (nuk and the layer). scamming must not be so common in london making him less cautious in life. Third world countries are the countries where scamming is so prevalent. Its so common often normalized. Their politicians are not the only ones corrupt.
In my previous comment, I mentioned that my brother married a Thai woman also I’m led to believe and die about five years ago he was four years younger than I am. His, remember speaking to me on the telephone and telling me how much she loved him and how badly he had been treated. She told me that she had spoken to a lawyer and wished to take the hospital the doctors and a few other characters to court for mistreatment and for not being able to save my brothers life - in her words her husband. Would I fund this? Well, no. I explained that we had a falling out when I wouldn’t lend him £5,000 to assihim with a lawsuit resulting from a land and house deal in Tasmania. And yes, he was an English language teacher. He had joined up with a scheme in Australia. I was quite astonished that he was accepted, given that he had no formal qualifications, having left school at GSE grade (whether he obtained his GSCs or, I don’t know. I’ grant him one thing, he did learn enough Thai to get by. I have been to Thailand a few times when travelling between Here in England to Australia and back. New Zealand also. However I never saw anymore of Bangkok that what you find is the British Airways club lounge - free drinks and comfy lounge chairs, A funny thing happened on one visit to the lounge, I poured myself a decent glass of Cointreau, and sat down to read the Guardian. A very attractive young stewardess asked if everything was alright, before whisking off with my half finished drink - she prolly thought it was just melted ice. I nearly called out to get it back (it’s expensive stuff). Then sensibly walked over to the bar, and poured myself another!
I feel sorry for John’s family, but have you any idea of the effect these ‘one under’ suicides has on the poor terrain drivers? I don’t think people take this into account when suicidal types jump in front of trains. Sure we all feel for the family, but never about either the driver or railway woes, police etc, who deal with the aftermath of ‘on line’ deaths - excuse the pun. I am often why I am alway being chided for not taking part in any form of social media, apart from emails and the odd TH-cam comments.
To be frank I have zero sympathy for John, he didn't listen and thought he knew it all. Booze played a part by boosting his ego.
Is that a king Robbo t shirt??
Sure is, legend on the graff scene in London
G'day pat ,, A sad ending indeed but he only had himself to blame , the story was oh so predictable, and well performed many times over where there is some one desperate for a change , no knowledge or any kind of history travelling there ! meant he was a sucker waiting to depart with his long hard earned money , then being gullible thrown in meant his life will soon change forever ! all for wanting to be happy, a sad end but well written about many times on many blogs , for me his change was doomed from the start ! so even if this video save's just one from the ultimate its worth it , i think most of us have a few stories that we know of that fit into this category, i can think of a few funny ones lol , another good video PAT.. Catchya...
Hey Steve, hope you're well, and you're absolutely right, he can only blame himself. He couldn't even take the time to do a bit of research or use common sense. He could've found a few hundred stories online!!!
He won’t live past 55
He didn't.
wow, this is very deep..fair play for the full and well structured story.. Im sure many will learn from this experience.
Thanks, would like to think many would get a short sharp shock from stories like this but not quite!!