I work for a tree service, my work saw is a Stihl ms362. My personal saw is a 590 echo. The 362 suffers badly in comparison. The 590 is one ripping saw. Jmo.
I agree I bought a cs590 for land clearing and it have a lot of hard woods oak, ash, and cedar. I put a cs620 carb and chain sprocket on it and it hasn’t missed a beat. Over 60 very mature trees in the past four months
I bought a CS590 and sent it to Iowa Performance Saw's for a muffler mod and retune and it really woke it up. Really happy I decided to go with Echo, it's no speed cutting saw but it's a torque monster and makes a great firewood saw
My personal saw is an Echo 590. At work we have a couple of 562xp's. I just spent the last week working on a thinning project and brought my 590 as a backup saw. The Husky definitely screams and you can work real fast with it but when it came to low stumping, the torque of the Echo seemed to make it cut better. Overall, for many people I think the Echo is a better value but it's not quite in the same class as the 562xp.
My first personal saw was the Echo 590. I've ran it HARD with the company for 2.5 yrs from the tree tops to the root ball. It's on its 2nd sprocket and 2nd 20" bar and its still just getting better. Starts easy. Has always taken a long time to warm up. One of its best qualities is that it runs and cuts GREAT in 100+°F. My Stihls start getting quirky in the heat. Got rid of my Stihl 441 because it wouldn't run in the heat. The 590 w/20" bar is my go to saw in the bucket when I need a bigger saw. The lower rpm and good torque offers better control when you need it. I rarely choose my Stihl 362 over the 590 for bucket work. I have several saws now, but the 590 is still kinda my favorite. I recently got a set of bigger dogs for it and put a 24" bar and skip tooth chain on it and it's my favorite saw all over again.
@@thomasdavenport508 I m gonna buy a chainsaw to replace my old husqvarna which lasted about 20 yrs and still running somehow but I am about to choose between stihl, husky and echo. They say echo s have lower rpm among those so means less work at a given time. And Still and husky are said to be not having the same quality as they had in the past. I still havent decided.
@@hevesat1920 Take a good look at the Echo 620, brother. It's the "Pro" saw upgrade of the Echo 590. There's a million vids of it. I wouldn't steer a man away from his preference but I would show him a good option. I've never done more than start a couple Husqvarna saws so I have no viable opinion of them. There are no Husqy dealers near me. They don't show up in pawn shops here. The only thing I don't like about them just from looking at them is I don't understand why they needed to put a primer bulb on their bigger saws. It may take some intuition and wisdom to understand this: Faster is not always better. Lower RPM = My 590 will keep a chain sharper longer than my Stihl 362. Bars last longer on my 590 than my 362. Tanks of gas last longer in my 590 than my 362. In knotty, irregular, variable grain wood, my 590 stays in the cut better, aka "Holds a tooth" better, if you know what I mean. My 590 is always smooth and consistent as long as I do my part hand sharpening chains. It's also forgiving in that aspect. Yes, my Stihl 362 cuts a bit faster but at the expense of more time sharpening, dressing my bar more often, buying a new bar sooner. Things have to be closer to "perfect" to get that smooth performance. Have you ever noticed the chain on a pole saw seems to stay sharp "forever"? It's because it's turning much lower rpm than any chainsaw. I love all my power saws, man. Several others not mentioned here. Anyways, when I wear out my Echo CS-590, I would want an Echo 620 to replace it. It doesn't seem my 590 is gonna go down anytime soon. Might have to buy me up a 620 on a sale and stow it away. Happy cuttin to ya. 🌲🌳🌴
@@hevesat1920 take a look at the echo 620p if you shop around you can get it for about 500 bucks I got mine for 515 shipped with a 24 inch bar And the difference in performance between that and my 562 is negligible and while the echos might have lower rpms they have way more torque , the difference in cut time with my 620 vs my 562 in a 40" round of oak with a 24" bar on both was about 1 second and the echo had not yet had it's carb tuned
Great comparison. One small feature that I've found useful on the Echo is the pull handle can be used to open the Oil and Gas caps. I like this because I hate having to carry the swench on my person, while sawing, because it is always jabbing me when I bend over. :P. Can't wait to see if porting the Echo will help. I actually like the torq of the echo, I was flush cutting some huge maple stumps (36-45 " dia) with the echo and needed that torque. Thanks for the great vids.
I own a 590 and its been an awesome saw for the last 3 years. I own huskies, Stihls and Echos and that Echo is hands down the best bang for the buck. You can't beat the Timberwolf for the money and the warranty.
Great video. Thank you for the comparison. I just bought the 590 Echo saw yesterday and I'm just watching videos to help me learn more about my saw. Thanks again.
Came over from buckin’s channel. Seen a few videos and like the content. You said the 562 ran like a ported saw….The thing you have to remember is when the 562 and 550 came out, they were ground breaking in terms of power at that time. They ran like ported saws out of the box. A 550xp ran like a 361/036/262xp and the 562xp ran like a 441/440/372xp with much less weight. My 562 with a muffler mod would be 1/2 a second faster than my 372 in hardwoods under 18”. After that the 70cc saws muscle it out. Ported is totally different as a 372 with a good port is almost unbeatable. I no longer use them professionally, just 8-10 cord a year for heat, but I find myself running the 372’s and larger saws less and less. The 562xp wears a 20” in hardwood country but I’ve ran a 24” on it and it was plenty adequate. The 550 will pull a 24” in softwoods no problem, hardwoods is iffy. Bar oil is the issue in that guy. The 562 is plenty light enough to use all day, climb and not be wore out. Prior to getting mine in 2012 I ran ported ms360’s and 361’s as my “smaller saw”. Now the primary saws I use most are the 550 and 562. I used to use a ported 372 with a 20”. 😂. She now wears a 28. Love the sound of that 266 Buckin has. Looks like she rips too. I’ve got a minty 268 laying around I need to get running again.
Excellent video, thanks. Just a side note but I over work my CS590 like mad. I use it on stuff way too big for it, I use it on the job and have for 3 years. I've taken down trees more than double the bar length with it, (when you're carving your hinge instead of cutting it lol) and it is still in amazing condition 3 years later. Still starts with one or two tugs. Need to get something bigger but money's tight and I am a notorious penny pincher and so far this has handled everything I've put in front of it year round. I have 5 saws, all Echo's, but this one is my only felling\bucking saw and it has been amazing.
I’ve cut with my echo 590 for quite a while and it’s been a dead reliable saw from day one. I replaced the ignition and carburetor with ones for a 620 and gained a few RPM and modified the muffler but that’s the extent of it. I’ve no complaints and she pulls a 28” bar just fine in what I get into but it’d be a bit much in big hardwood I’m sure. Anyway it runs with the big saws just fine. She made me a believer in the echos friends! Good saws for the buck and the go to work everyday like we do.
Hi Tinman, thanks for showing how to start a hot husky. I had hot start issues with my 555 which is close to a 562. I was either trying with the choke on or just "on", instead of using the fast idle. I recently added a 562xp to my saw list which also includes a 550 xp for smaller stuff. I still have my 555 which I keep for spruce as I hate the gum so my 562 and 550 are only used for white birch, yellow birch and poplar.
In my tree business, I've been running the same 562 as the main midsized saw for about six years with untold hours and zero issues. With the time proven power and dependability it has provided, it's gonna be hard to convince me to switch.
Echo makes a good product but they’re more of a premium homeowner saw rather than a commercial grade saw. The echo fanboys love to talk about how their saws are professional grade. Take any echo saw and put it next to a comparable Stihl or Husky pro saw and you can pretty easily see the difference.
@@casperwolf813 This is true. I have nothing against Echo saws, in fact I’m seriously considering picking up a CS-620PW since I have no saws in the 60cc class. I’m also interested in modding one to see what kind of performance potential it has. As far as value for money goes I don’t think Echo can be beat. As I mentioned before they’ve got some serious competition and brand loyalty in the commercial space and I’m not sure they’ll be able to break into that market in any significant capacity.
@@eurokid83 the Echo dealer near me sells the 7310 in bulk to a local big name tree service. I dont think every echo saw is on par with every pro grade stihl but certain models are in my view. For fleet use, saws like the 620 and 7310 are really robust and economical. A self employed arborist may choose to buy the "best" gear because it's somewhat personalized. For fleet use, Echo often is a pragmatic business decision.
Around here (Pennsylvania, united states) the 590 is $400 and the 562 is closer to $800. The echo has a 5 yr consumer and the husky is only 2 yr i believe. I'm an occassional saturday cutter helping friends more than anything so I got the echo. Saw speed won't make the difference in how much wood I get cut, my "get up and go" level will.
I have the Husqvarna 555 the little brother to the 562xp and it cuts extremely well, fell in love with it on the first day I took it out. Found out that it helps to read the entire manual on hot start procedures or they won't start. Once I figured it out, I rarely have a problem. My echo 520 doesn't like starting when hot either... so there you go! Great video Tinman!
Good comparison but when I checked the prices, the Husky was twice the price of the Echo. With such a difference in price, value becomes a important buying decision. These two saws aren't even really in the same class - at least price-wise. You sold me on the Husky until I saw the price difference. This comparison is a great example of diminishing returns. On the other hand, for someone who uses the saws very frequently, the Husky may be a better value in the long run. But for most of us, I didn't see any advantages of the Husky that make it worth twice the price.
@@tinmanssaws simple fix for that. After you've hit the switch to OFF and the saw dies, immediately flip the switch back to ON. Ever since I've started doing that with my Echo equipment... saws, string trimmers, etc. I've never pulled and pulled again and realized I forgot to flip the switch to ON.
@@obeconoberougle9497 I do the same thing. I have mostly everything echo besides a husky backpack blower and the only reason it’s not a echo is because husky was the most powerful one at the time. It’s just crazy how much they’re outta tune from the store. I’ve learned a ton from watching buckin and tinman over the years. They definitely made my equipment run ten fold better. I been watching buckin from the axman days and tinman soon after his first shoutout. Love these guys videos
I like the echo better. They are both awesome saws. But the echo is cheaper, better on fuel, stays cleaner, and has a much better warranty. I have an Echo and a johnsered. I love them both
In my experience with the 590. A 28 inch bar is good but it does pull a 32 inch bar with a good chain. I've buried a 32 in bar in both black walnut and maple with zero problems using a flat filed chain
Just had my 24" bar and chain show up for my 590. Absolutely happy with my Echo, between that and my husky 240 for limbing, not a bad days worth of work.
@@notavailable7379 absolutely. Only thing I burn is hickory 95% of the time. I live in pa. Everything on the farm is hardwood. It pulls my 28” thru like butter. Oils the bar no problem too. It keeps up with 576xp until the 20” logs. I’m telling you I love my echos. I’d put it up against any 60cc saw. I would’ve put a longer bar on but at the time 28” was the biggest I could find. I have no doubt it’d run a 32. My little 310 is a beast too. It has a 16” bar
@@notavailable7379 all I did was opened it up with a muff mod and cap delete. Only thing I wish it had was a aluminum handle but for 400$ it can’t be beat. It’s been dead reliable for the last four or five years
@@joescott803 cap delete? Whats that? You can buy an aluminum handle for it and a full wrap handle as well. Both of which are for the cs 620 but they both fit the 590
This popped up on the "recommended" video's...SO I watched. This is an excellent video comparison, both raw and real. Makes me want to build another 562 as mine of the same "vintage" as yours is getting long of tooth. :) Have to say some of the stuff I used to do to let them cool better may be obsolete, EXCEPT the muffler mod. Hoping you do more with these in the future. I've acquired a first gen 550 to hot rod :)
I own a small tree service. I've been running my 590 for 5 years now. You simply can't beat them for the price! But I'm saving some coin for a 562 full wrap...
I'm in Michigan and we have all kinds of wood, especially hardwood. I have a 2020 562 as well. No mods. My 570 died one day, I run a tree service. I was cutting the log and stump off a big silver maple. I ended up putting a 32 in bar on mine with full chisel chain and it did pull it. I wouldn't do that every day.. but the horsepower rating on 570 is 4.9. 562 is 4.7. But the torque is different and so is the high rpm of the 562.. my 562 air filter is different then yours too. Mine has the cone style. I keep a 20 on mine normally and you can't stop that thing in any type of wood. Can't wait for the 592 to hit the market.
I love my CS 590 timber wolf cut a 27 inch pine with a 20 inch bar couple swipes but had no struggle can't wait to try some hard wood out can't beat the price either
Sometimes those 590 air filters fit loose and let in fines, but a 7/8" outer diameter faucet o ring fits perfectly on the filter and that really seals it up well
I bought one for mine too and put a little dielectric grease on it, sealed it up well. Did a muffler mod and removed the limiters and tuned the carb by Iowa Performance Saw's and it's a beast now. It made a noticable difference and I'm really happy with it
Don’t have an echo saw, have 2 echo weed eaters, very happy with. If I’m going for bigger wood I always grab my 272Xp over stihl, McCulloch, homelites. Partial to my Huskys.
I'm a pro cutter my sthil dies at idle drives me nuts timber Wolf never died once at idle echo is way better last two huskys I bought had bad carbs from factory
I bought a new Stihl and it was garage from day 1, wouldn't start and idle correctly and the dealership wouldn't warrant it and I hadn't even used it, I sold it and bought the 590 and had a muffler mod and removed limiters and tuned it and it's a beast. I'll never buy another new Stihl again because of how they treated me. It's best to buy from a good dealership no matter what brand you buy cause if they won't Honor the warranty whats the purpose you know
I have an echo 620 and it is a good, strong saw. Under $600 US out the door during the sale week. After pouring through forums, I've never understood why people buy a 590, then proceed to buy the 620 coil and 620 carb. Just buy the 620. I put a 28" on mine and it rips through oak just fine.
Can get a filter upgrade pack now for a 560xp and 562xp. Upgraded my 2015 560 to the new filter and cover. They are supposed to keep the fine stuff out of the carb. Its easier to clean also no need to remove the filter. Can just access around to blow it clean. Comes with a new top cover with that vent hole on the side, new mounting bracket for the filter and the new filter. Got mine for 49euros from the local husqvarna dealer.
I'm up in the air on 562 or 572 for new saw to replace my old 55 rancher that died. Got a good bit of bigger hardwood around here to process. Mostly cherry, walnut, maple. Leaning toward the 572 for a big saw since I already have a small 435 and the old 55 was a bit overmatched/overworked 😉 But everytime I see your 562 run i go back to undecided! Lol Great content as always!
I was a husqy guy once.....until I got some echos 😂. Lol j/k I like almost everything, seriously though idk what it is your looking to do farm/ranch work, homestead,pro logger but for the range your looking at purchasing take a gander at the 620 or 7310 echo..620 likely more in the area your looking but they are built more old school simple basic carb design for the most part and tend to not blow up as soon(of course them moving slower contributes to the longevity) ..just a thought one saw guy to another I was straight husqy for years...decades and still have some built playtoys I enjoy but I'm impressed with the echos for being an ol dirty workhorse it's about like comparing a Ford 300 to a 302
@@wolfmanrebel874 no doubt the echos look to be great saws, don't see much in the way of dealer support in my area for them though. Mostly Stihl, followed way behind by Husky. But I sure like the looks of their price point and apparent quality.
@@Piledriver2235 it's the same here the local co-op is husky dealer, mom and pop hardware store is Stihl it's about an hour or so to a echo dealer so I certainly get that issue
Great video, I run a couple of 562's just upgrading the air filter on one to see how it compares to the original setup. The spikes are the only disappointing feature in my opinion. I like Echo's good saws but not common here in Oz.
External clutch puts the chain closer to the center line of the crank. Internal clutch stays cleaner. 6 one way, half dozen another. I like both saws though
I just picked up a new CS-590 w/ 20" bar & chain for $330. Thr 562xp w/ 20" bar & chain is selling for right around $825. IMO - buy two 590's, and save the $160 for when you have a lot of cutting to do ...that way you can buy coffee, food, or beer to lure a friend over to use the other saw.
I used a 590 for just one cut to see what it was like and to me it felt just like a husqvarna 455 rancher . Now the 590 doesn't cost that much here in California but the 455 is definitely cost less than the Canada price of the 590 . If u really wanna put the 590 to test it on a similar saw then the 455 would be your best bet
590 Timberwolf was the 600P with more plastic to reduce the cost. You can put the handles, clutch cover, etc right on the Timberwolf off a 600P and the newer 620P. And as you found out, the ignition system as well.
I’m happy you had such great luck with the 562xp. Mine was a 2016 model with lots of issues. The 562 saw lasted 19 hours and toast. Since new was hard starting never seemed to run right. Think I got a lemon. It was my backup saw so out of the warranty time frame by the time it went. Reached out to Husqvarna and nothing they would do. Last Husqvarna equipment I’ll ever buy after that experience. Thanks for doing this review for the drastic price difference planning on trying the Echo out.
Tinmaaaaan, man I like that 562xp. Been looking for one gently used, it's a bit new for my stable but I'm willing to part with a couple to get into one. The wife might not like me buying a new one but I've heard husqvarna has discontinued this model.. Might have to bite the bullet.. Always a pleasure spending time watching your content.. SLANT'E.
we have a 400 echo it has been a good saw also have 28 super , 41 av and 46 sthil they are great saws. the new sthils have been bad the 390 and 230 i have traded off. we have two husqvarna that we never had any luck with a 55 and a 42. i will never buy a new husqvarna or sthil. may trade the 55 and 42 huskys for a echo cs590 thank you for video it will help a lot of people start there husky and other will know the echo is the best buy.
Now that you’ve been playing with the 590 are you going to try and port 620? I know you’ve had some issues with the 590 for a while now and I’m just interested to know if the echo CS 620 is in the future for porting?
I had a old echo when i was 16. , maybe something like a 4900. Its been a long time. It was a really good learner saw. It had a tip guard that protected from kick backs and you work on the fundamentals of being safe. Since then i have had about 4 maybe 5 stihls. Now my 14 year old 361 is starting to age. Im looking at that husky. It looks like a fun saw
husky faster saw ,,BUT Echo will out last ,,I ran husky for over 30 yrs ,,but when they chipped them ,,they dont last ,,best I got out of them new was 152 hours ,so switched to echo ,,trouble free for the 2 yrs I been running echo and they half the price
Seriously considering this as my new saw (also the MS271 & 455 Rancher). I currently have the CS310 & CS400. I think I can get away with offloading the 400 and keeping the 310 for smaller tasks.
I personally did not like my 455 rancher and I'm a big husky fan. Running a echo 590 with a 24in bar and a husky 395xp with a 32 in. I'd take that echo over any mid grade husky. It's pretty much bulletproof. That being said husky xp saws are my choice saws especially 3 series
@@polodog1483 Wound up with a CS490/24, kept the 310 for sentimental reasons (dads...2/2/22), still have his old Husqy 345. Got a steal on a pair of MS251/18's....relegated to SxS trail clearing duties. Still looking for a good 50cc, got it down to the MS261, 545mk2/550xp. I need a light limbing/bucking saw
I like how you said you have older saws however you put miles on the husky which is newer. Just don't understand people's thinking when Stihl, husky s and others have long since quit that echo will still be running strong.
I have bone stock 590 with a 24 but im running an oregon chain via a echo dealer recommendation close to me and i have no complaints with how it cuts.. a buddy gets mad it will cut circles around his 461 ported but he wont keep the chain sharp 🤣🤣
I was extremely happy with jonsered 2159 c i just lost in a fire i think they had the best turbo air i don't know why husky didn't use or keep it. Same company i used to work fir them and echo. All good stuff. Echo is always reliable husky always wants the hipo edge
The echo 620 would be a better comparison to the 562, I have a 590 and I love it, it's not my go to saw but very impressed every time I use it, keep the chain sharp, I have a wrap handle on the 590, just because I can
Had 590 3 months old and piston went right at 10th tank and my echo dealer wouldn't cover it says was a fuel problem which is bs because run same with my other saws and they ran perfectly fine so 590 been in peices in a box for 3 years now u want it for parts
My most used saw is my echo 620 , second most used is my 562 xp the 620 I recently had it tuned up and the echo blows my mind every time I use it just a fantastic saw and it cost me 300 less than my 562 don't get me wrong the 562 is great but for 500 bucks that 620 gives me equivalent performance . If you liked how the timberwolf Performed compared to your 562 I'd love to see your thoughts on the 620 against it I'd also love to see you out a 28 on both and see which one pulls it better I've ran a 28 on my 620 and it's very agressive but I like it best with a 24 and I like the way the 562 runs with a 20 on it there is definitely something to be said for the torque that echo puts out I've cut some seriously big wood with that 620 I also have a 7310 and it definitely gives some serious competition to my 372 if someone were to ask me what saw they should get I would recommend them echo with 200 confidence that they'd be able to get through whatever they're cutting and also my echos burp after 2 choke pulls then start with one pull after that every time
@@enginnerdedtohoopajoop4604 they're. Kinda tied in my mind really , but if I had to pick it would really come down to looks and the 7310 is in my opinion just a way sexier saw lol they're both fantastic performers though and they'd be a good choice to add to any saw lineup
@@enginnerdedtohoopajoop4604 oh that's a straight tie right there the 562 is all about the rpms , and the cs620 is all about the torque they perform equally in my use of them , except the 562 might cut about a 1/2 second faster
I'll also say this , the 620 loses way less rpm in the cut atleast by mye ears and feel anyway (when cutting large hardwoods like say 30 Inches or more ) but they're both fantastic saws, I will say out of the box the echo is the better but because it comes with a 5 year warranty costs less , on paper they're only separated by a .2 HP . I prefer to run a 24 on the 620 and a 20 on the 562 they can both pull a24or 28 but it's just seems to me that the 620 has an easier job of it , and the benefit of the 562 is the auto tune keeps it running at its highest performance however if you are decent with adjusting a carburetor than save the extra money and go with the echo the performance difference between the two is negligible however you will absolutely love either of them and if either one was my only saw I would be fine for pretty much anything short of a Sequoya or red wood
I cut professional 6 days a week i bought 2 huskys 2 sthils 2 590 Timberwolves the echo cut 600 cords one saw all the other saws quit my Timberwolves are the only saws i will spend my money on
Thanks for the video tinman! You do real good with the information and understanding in your videos been awhile since I've commented hope all is well with you and the community! I have a 620 echo the carb is different for sure it makes me feel as if it's got a problem not sure I haven't took it apart to see if you start it and tach it wide open it's 8500 then stick it is wood and after it gets a few cuts in it'll go to 13200 but that is the the low jet at 2 and the high jet dang close to shut off not even a quarter open they are strong saws but I believe a husqvarna is a lot better saw still not sure the echo does get the job done for sure tho have a great one!
I have never used primer blub and never pulled more than once or twice and I live in Texas where I see temp of high 90s ever day and humidity 80s to 90s never had a problem with my 562xp I also run stihl ms291 both damn good saws I like stihl better because of the in board clutch
The 620p. Is just hard to beat for the money, it’s very close to the 562 to me not worth the extra money and not to mention the warranty which I voided the first tank lol
If the 590 is stock, it actually did better against the 562XP than I expected. A fair comparison would be the 620P against the 562XP. Here in the US the 590 is half the price of the 562XP.
@@mrtree1368 The 590 is more in line with the 460 Rancher imo. I'd buy the 590 over both the 455 or 460. 590 is around $100-$150 cheaper, but the huge difference is the magnesium split case vs plastic clamshell of the Rancher line. And I'm confident the 590 has more grunt/torque as well.
@@obeconoberougle9497 with a 20 inch bar the saws are similar in performance but I'd probably put my money on the 455 . I've used both saws and my 455 never let's me down and im sure the same with 590 and the 460 isn't worth the price for the added power less than a .5 hp . Now if u can get the 590 off ebay for around 350 then that would be a good price cause the 455s arnt as cheap as they were 7 years ago. Yea the Ranchers arnt built as solid but they don't brake I've had mine for over 7 years and everything holds up and I do tree work professionally
@@mrtree1368 Totally agree that the 460 is over priced. The 455 is definitely the better buy of the two. The only Husky I have is the 440e. I have to say, so far I've been really happy with that lil bugger. It's snappy and powerful for it's size. Sharp chain and properly tuned it's impressive. I think Husqvarna has one of, if not the best AV systems on their saws. My other two saws are both Echo pro models. The 501P and 620P. Build quality and performance is excellent for the money imo. I do wish they used an air filter like the 400 or the new 7310 though.
@@obeconoberougle9497 the 455 is the most affordable bigger husky saw but it's probably the weakest too but with a 20 inch bar you can cut fire wood or cut down trees with good enough performance. If it was my old tree company I would be using a 357 or a 372. u really want a bigger saw when it comes to real wood cutting. But for me my next bigger saw is a stihl ms 390 (64cc) with a 28 inch bar then I got a 395 xp. My small ground saws are echos 370 and 400 and the new 3510 then the next step up is a stihl 021 and 024. I don't have all the saws some other tree guys have but I'm all about knowing what u need to get the job done without making ur self look silly lol
It seems like it's obvious the faster rpm saw is going to cut noticeably faster in soft wood. Not sure why go thru this comparison without running them thru oak or maple.... Put a long bar on the husky and see how the high rpms fail. I run 32" skip on a 600p echo and it pulls it Exactly as well as 20"... Like to see husky try that on for size. And then time them 💁♂️
Have a new 621sx at work. Its a horrible saw. Its big and wide feels bad in the hand. Also it cant pull even a 16inch bar in dry pine. It has no snappyness and just feels like a tractor in wood. Trying to cut notches on logs was one of the worst experiences i have had. The 254xp, 359, 357xp, 560xp and a jonsered 2260 all cut 10 times better and feel great in the hand. The 357 and 560 are in a league of its own in comparison when cutting notches in dry wood. Echo is a lazy and clumsy saw. Maybe a .325 chain and porting can make it better.
Have to admit, here is USA the husky is $800-$900 lol. Compared to $450 highest price for 20" bar (somehow the 24" is $419.... 🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️) So for half the price, homeowners should take the 590 i would think
590 is not a pro grade saw... Anybody expecting this to run with 562's or ms 362's are not being realistic. There's a big price difference. The more expensive saws had better perform faster.
I work for a tree service, my work saw is a Stihl ms362. My personal saw is a 590 echo. The 362 suffers badly in comparison. The 590 is one ripping saw. Jmo.
how's it brother I just bought a cs590 tmb wolf any suggestions on the saw
@@toddjensen7816 muffler work, take the limiters out of the carb, cs620 ignition. You will love it
I agree I bought a cs590 for land clearing and it have a lot of hard woods oak, ash, and cedar. I put a cs620 carb and chain sprocket on it and it hasn’t missed a beat. Over 60 very mature trees in the past four months
Im about to drop 15 trees most old oaks and about 7 giant pines. Would the echo serve me well? Thanks
I bought a CS590 and sent it to Iowa Performance Saw's for a muffler mod and retune and it really woke it up. Really happy I decided to go with Echo, it's no speed cutting saw but it's a torque monster and makes a great firewood saw
My personal saw is an Echo 590. At work we have a couple of 562xp's. I just spent the last week working on a thinning project and brought my 590 as a backup saw. The Husky definitely screams and you can work real fast with it but when it came to low stumping, the torque of the Echo seemed to make it cut better. Overall, for many people I think the Echo is a better value but it's not quite in the same class as the 562xp.
I think the cost is probably the most important factor.
My first personal saw was the Echo 590. I've ran it HARD with the company for 2.5 yrs from the tree tops to the root ball. It's on its 2nd sprocket and 2nd 20" bar and its still just getting better. Starts easy. Has always taken a long time to warm up. One of its best qualities is that it runs and cuts GREAT in 100+°F. My Stihls start getting quirky in the heat. Got rid of my Stihl 441 because it wouldn't run in the heat.
The 590 w/20" bar is my go to saw in the bucket when I need a bigger saw. The lower rpm and good torque offers better control when you need it. I rarely choose my Stihl 362 over the 590 for bucket work.
I have several saws now, but the 590 is still kinda my favorite.
I recently got a set of bigger dogs for it and put a 24" bar and skip tooth chain on it and it's my favorite saw all over again.
@@thomasdavenport508 I m gonna buy a chainsaw to replace my old husqvarna which lasted about 20 yrs and still running somehow but I am about to choose between stihl, husky and echo. They say echo s have lower rpm among those so means less work at a given time. And Still and husky are said to be not having the same quality as they had in the past. I still havent decided.
@@hevesat1920 Take a good look at the Echo 620, brother.
It's the "Pro" saw upgrade of the Echo 590. There's a million vids of it.
I wouldn't steer a man away from his preference but I would show him a good option.
I've never done more than start a couple Husqvarna saws so I have no viable opinion of them. There are no Husqy dealers near me. They don't show up in pawn shops here. The only thing I don't like about them just from looking at them is I don't understand why they needed to put a primer bulb on their bigger saws.
It may take some intuition and wisdom to understand this:
Faster is not always better.
Lower RPM = My 590 will keep a chain sharper longer than my Stihl 362. Bars last longer on my 590 than my 362. Tanks of gas last longer in my 590 than my 362. In knotty, irregular, variable grain wood, my 590 stays in the cut better, aka "Holds a tooth" better, if you know what I mean. My 590 is always smooth and consistent as long as I do my part hand sharpening chains. It's also forgiving in that aspect. Yes, my Stihl 362 cuts a bit faster but at the expense of more time sharpening, dressing my bar more often, buying a new bar sooner. Things have to be closer to "perfect" to get that smooth performance.
Have you ever noticed the chain on a pole saw seems to stay sharp "forever"? It's because it's turning much lower rpm than any chainsaw.
I love all my power saws, man. Several others not mentioned here.
Anyways, when I wear out my Echo CS-590, I would want an Echo 620 to replace it. It doesn't seem my 590 is gonna go down anytime soon. Might have to buy me up a 620 on a sale and stow it away.
Happy cuttin to ya. 🌲🌳🌴
@@hevesat1920 take a look at the echo 620p if you shop around you can get it for about 500 bucks I got mine for 515 shipped with a 24 inch bar
And the difference in performance between that and my 562 is negligible and while the echos might have lower rpms they have way more torque , the difference in cut time with my 620 vs my 562 in a 40" round of oak with a 24" bar on both was about 1 second and the echo had not yet had it's carb tuned
Great comparison. One small feature that I've found useful on the Echo is the pull handle can be used to open the Oil and Gas caps. I like this because I hate having to carry the swench on my person, while sawing, because it is always jabbing me when I bend over. :P. Can't wait to see if porting the Echo will help. I actually like the torq of the echo, I was flush cutting some huge maple stumps (36-45 " dia) with the echo and needed that torque. Thanks for the great vids.
I really like my 590 it has been a nice saw
I have seen them new for 300 there's not a saw that even comes close for that price it will last forever too
La 590 etent plus puissante forcément, il fallais comparé avec la husquvarna 562
@@bernardveluire2237 562 is mucho mass bueno
I own a 590 and its been an awesome saw for the last 3 years. I own huskies, Stihls and Echos and that Echo is hands down the best bang for the buck. You can't beat the Timberwolf for the money and the warranty.
Great video. Thank you for the comparison. I just bought the 590 Echo saw yesterday and I'm just watching videos to help me learn more about my saw. Thanks again.
Came over from buckin’s channel. Seen a few videos and like the content. You said the 562 ran like a ported saw….The thing you have to remember is when the 562 and 550 came out, they were ground breaking in terms of power at that time. They ran like ported saws out of the box. A 550xp ran like a 361/036/262xp and the 562xp ran like a 441/440/372xp with much less weight. My 562 with a muffler mod would be 1/2 a second faster than my 372 in hardwoods under 18”. After that the 70cc saws muscle it out. Ported is totally different as a 372 with a good port is almost unbeatable. I no longer use them professionally, just 8-10 cord a year for heat, but I find myself running the 372’s and larger saws less and less. The 562xp wears a 20” in hardwood country but I’ve ran a 24” on it and it was plenty adequate. The 550 will pull a 24” in softwoods no problem, hardwoods is iffy. Bar oil is the issue in that guy. The 562 is plenty light enough to use all day, climb and not be wore out. Prior to getting mine in 2012 I ran ported ms360’s and 361’s as my “smaller saw”. Now the primary saws I use most are the 550 and 562. I used to use a ported 372 with a 20”. 😂. She now wears a 28. Love the sound of that 266 Buckin has. Looks like she rips too. I’ve got a minty 268 laying around I need to get running again.
Excellent video, thanks. Just a side note but I over work my CS590 like mad. I use it on stuff way too big for it, I use it on the job and have for 3 years. I've taken down trees more than double the bar length with it, (when you're carving your hinge instead of cutting it lol) and it is still in amazing condition 3 years later. Still starts with one or two tugs. Need to get something bigger but money's tight and I am a notorious penny pincher and so far this has handled everything I've put in front of it year round. I have 5 saws, all Echo's, but this one is my only felling\bucking saw and it has been amazing.
You can get the 620p which will run a 28 with no problem for about 500 I got mine for 515 with a 24 inch bar (that price includes tax and shipping )
I’ve cut with my echo 590 for quite a while and it’s been a dead reliable saw from day one. I replaced the ignition and carburetor with ones for a 620 and gained a few RPM and modified the muffler but that’s the extent of it. I’ve no complaints and she pulls a 28” bar just fine in what I get into but it’d be a bit much in big hardwood I’m sure. Anyway it runs with the big saws just fine. She made me a believer in the echos friends! Good saws for the buck and the go to work everyday like we do.
I did the same but some port work too. It is way faster then my 362c-m
Picked up my cs590 for 500 bucks said and done. I am pumped to see that cs590 ported
Hi Tinman, thanks for showing how to start a hot husky. I had hot start issues with my 555 which is close to a 562. I was either trying with the choke on or just "on", instead of using the fast idle. I recently added a 562xp to my saw list which also includes a 550 xp for smaller stuff. I still have my 555 which I keep for spruce as I hate the gum so my 562 and 550 are only used for white birch, yellow birch and poplar.
Thanks for showing that hot start procedure. It will help a lot of people out.
That hot start procedure got mr every time til I read the manual lol
@@tinmanssaws You got a manual! I brought a 565at no manual
In my tree business, I've been running the same 562 as the main midsized saw for about six years with untold hours and zero issues. With the time proven power and dependability it has provided, it's gonna be hard to convince me to switch.
Echo makes a good product but they’re more of a premium homeowner saw rather than a commercial grade saw. The echo fanboys love to talk about how their saws are professional grade. Take any echo saw and put it next to a comparable Stihl or Husky pro saw and you can pretty easily see the difference.
@@eurokid83 agreed, also remember echos’ are close to half in price.
@@casperwolf813 This is true. I have nothing against Echo saws, in fact I’m seriously considering picking up a CS-620PW since I have no saws in the 60cc class. I’m also interested in modding one to see what kind of performance potential it has. As far as value for money goes I don’t think Echo can be beat. As I mentioned before they’ve got some serious competition and brand loyalty in the commercial space and I’m not sure they’ll be able to break into that market in any significant capacity.
@@eurokid83 the Echo dealer near me sells the 7310 in bulk to a local big name tree service. I dont think every echo saw is on par with every pro grade stihl but certain models are in my view. For fleet use, saws like the 620 and 7310 are really robust and economical. A self employed arborist may choose to buy the "best" gear because it's somewhat personalized. For fleet use, Echo often is a pragmatic business decision.
Can’t wait for the 590 porting project to start
Mornin Joe.
Morning Tinman I hope it cools down for you today. Love your videos keep it up
@@JoeRainis156 me to buddy, forecast says another week of heat.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video in the heat! Humidity is rough us bigger boys! Great honest comparison! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
I put the 28” bar from my 562 on the echo 590. Cutting red oak. It cut well. Oiled well also. A little better balance vs the 562
Around here (Pennsylvania, united states) the 590 is $400 and the 562 is closer to $800. The echo has a 5 yr consumer and the husky is only 2 yr i believe. I'm an occassional saturday cutter helping friends more than anything so I got the echo. Saw speed won't make the difference in how much wood I get cut, my "get up and go" level will.
Its interesting to see how varied prices are based on location.
I have the Husqvarna 555 the little brother to the 562xp and it cuts extremely well, fell in love with it on the first day I took it out. Found out that it helps to read the entire manual on hot start procedures or they won't start. Once I figured it out, I rarely have a problem. My echo 520 doesn't like starting when hot either... so there you go! Great video Tinman!
Good comparison but when I checked the prices, the Husky was twice the price of the Echo. With such a difference in price, value becomes a important buying decision. These two saws aren't even really in the same class - at least price-wise. You sold me on the Husky until I saw the price difference. This comparison is a great example of diminishing returns. On the other hand, for someone who uses the saws very frequently, the Husky may be a better value in the long run. But for most of us, I didn't see any advantages of the Husky that make it worth twice the price.
I have a new timber wolf flawless my new husky came with bad carbs
I like the the Huskys "return to on, shut off switch" Never have to pull 30 times then figure out that the switch is in the Off position.
Lol I do that all the time.... pull, pull, pull, pull, pull.....oops its off lol
@@tinmanssaws simple fix for that. After you've hit the switch to OFF and the saw dies, immediately flip the switch back to ON. Ever since I've started doing that with my Echo equipment... saws, string trimmers, etc. I've never pulled and pulled again and realized I forgot to flip the switch to ON.
@@obeconoberougle9497 I do the same thing. I have mostly everything echo besides a husky backpack blower and the only reason it’s not a echo is because husky was the most powerful one at the time. It’s just crazy how much they’re outta tune from the store. I’ve learned a ton from watching buckin and tinman over the years. They definitely made my equipment run ten fold better. I been watching buckin from the axman days and tinman soon after his first shoutout. Love these guys videos
I like the echo better. They are both awesome saws. But the echo is cheaper, better on fuel, stays cleaner, and has a much better warranty. I have an Echo and a johnsered. I love them both
Johnsered is a Husqvarna..
In my experience with the 590. A 28 inch bar is good but it does pull a 32 inch bar with a good chain. I've buried a 32 in bar in both black walnut and maple with zero problems using a flat filed chain
Just had my 24" bar and chain show up for my 590.
Absolutely happy with my Echo, between that and my husky 240 for limbing, not a bad days worth of work.
Thank you for this video I've made up my mind I think the 590 is the best saw for my needs I can pick one up at my local home depot for 399
My 590 is a beast with a 28” Oregon bar and stihl chain. Runs the same as the stock 20” bar. I’m running 28” .50 3/8” full house
Will it run a 28 buried in hard wood?
@@notavailable7379 absolutely. Only thing I burn is hickory 95% of the time. I live in pa. Everything on the farm is hardwood. It pulls my 28” thru like butter. Oils the bar no problem too. It keeps up with 576xp until the 20” logs. I’m telling you I love my echos. I’d put it up against any 60cc saw. I would’ve put a longer bar on but at the time 28” was the biggest I could find. I have no doubt it’d run a 32. My little 310 is a beast too. It has a 16” bar
@@joescott803 great now im going to buy one lol theres been a cheap but clean echo 6700 for sale id like to pickup as well.
@@notavailable7379 all I did was opened it up with a muff mod and cap delete. Only thing I wish it had was a aluminum handle but for 400$ it can’t be beat. It’s been dead reliable for the last four or five years
@@joescott803 cap delete? Whats that? You can buy an aluminum handle for it and a full wrap handle as well. Both of which are for the cs 620 but they both fit the 590
This popped up on the "recommended" video's...SO I watched. This is an excellent video comparison, both raw and real. Makes me want to build another 562 as mine of the same "vintage" as yours is getting long of tooth. :) Have to say some of the stuff I used to do to let them cool better may be obsolete, EXCEPT the muffler mod. Hoping you do more with these in the future. I've acquired a first gen 550 to hot rod :)
I actually have 2 low Mike complete but very blown un 550s in the bone yard.
My 562 is very very tired. I plan to rebuild it this winter
I own a small tree service. I've been running my 590 for 5 years now. You simply can't beat them for the price! But I'm saving some coin for a 562 full wrap...
I'm in Michigan and we have all kinds of wood, especially hardwood. I have a 2020 562 as well. No mods. My 570 died one day, I run a tree service. I was cutting the log and stump off a big silver maple. I ended up putting a 32 in bar on mine with full chisel chain and it did pull it. I wouldn't do that every day.. but the horsepower rating on 570 is 4.9. 562 is 4.7. But the torque is different and so is the high rpm of the 562.. my 562 air filter is different then yours too. Mine has the cone style. I keep a 20 on mine normally and you can't stop that thing in any type of wood. Can't wait for the 592 to hit the market.
I wouldn’t run a motor with a filter in that condition, appreciate the hot start process & explanation of 562 Auto tune👍
Glad you videos move right along... They don't drag. And videos are very interesting and extremely helpful.
I love my CS 590 timber wolf cut a 27 inch pine with a 20 inch bar couple swipes but had no struggle can't wait to try some hard wood out can't beat the price either
Sometimes those 590 air filters fit loose and let in fines, but a 7/8" outer diameter faucet o ring fits perfectly on the filter and that really seals it up well
I bought one for mine too and put a little dielectric grease on it, sealed it up well. Did a muffler mod and removed the limiters and tuned the carb by Iowa Performance Saw's and it's a beast now. It made a noticable difference and I'm really happy with it
Don’t have an echo saw, have 2 echo weed eaters, very happy with. If I’m going for bigger wood I always grab my 272Xp over stihl, McCulloch, homelites. Partial to my Huskys.
I grab my 266se steady. I really like that chassis of saw.
You and me both and I got a ms461 and ms440 although I'm bringing my ms440 as well cause I don't want to put all the wear on my 272
Every Echo saw fan should see saw guru Charles Bisco 620p easily pullin a 36 thru big wood . His 50cc 4910 pulls as good as some 70cc saws .
I'm not a echo fan per say but regardless of the brand u r 100% rite,charles can build one hell of a saw
I'm a pro cutter my sthil dies at idle drives me nuts timber Wolf never died once at idle echo is way better last two huskys I bought had bad carbs from factory
Thanks for the comparison. Nice to see them head to head.
I’ll take the echo for the reliability.
Love my ❤️ red 562, Jonsered 2260. Currently wearing a 16inch Bar. It's a HOG with a 16 inch. Fire wood beaster.
I can't find jon echo good
I've owned Stihl..was a big husqy fan but.. echo is the best I found for being reliable service..
Sold my Stihl.. still have my old husqy R-55. But it's a headache
I bought a new Stihl and it was garage from day 1, wouldn't start and idle correctly and the dealership wouldn't warrant it and I hadn't even used it, I sold it and bought the 590 and had a muffler mod and removed limiters and tuned it and it's a beast. I'll never buy another new Stihl again because of how they treated me. It's best to buy from a good dealership no matter what brand you buy cause if they won't Honor the warranty whats the purpose you know
Great reveiw and notations on these saws
Thanks for the hot start trick! That's golden.
I have an echo 620 and it is a good, strong saw. Under $600 US out the door during the sale week. After pouring through forums, I've never understood why people buy a 590, then proceed to buy the 620 coil and 620 carb. Just buy the 620. I put a 28" on mine and it rips through oak just fine.
Can get a filter upgrade pack now for a 560xp and 562xp. Upgraded my 2015 560 to the new filter and cover. They are supposed to keep the fine stuff out of the carb. Its easier to clean also no need to remove the filter. Can just access around to blow it clean. Comes with a new top cover with that vent hole on the side, new mounting bracket for the filter and the new filter. Got mine for 49euros from the local husqvarna dealer.
Awesome job buddy. Spot on with what I've experienced. You need to port that 562 you'll absolutely love it even more
I may order a new top end and port it for sure.
Those echo carbs have a high speed bypass incase you haven't figured that out already. They will not lean out without some work.
I'm up in the air on 562 or 572 for new saw to replace my old 55 rancher that died.
Got a good bit of bigger hardwood around here to process. Mostly cherry, walnut, maple. Leaning toward the 572 for a big saw since I already have a small 435 and the old 55 was a bit overmatched/overworked 😉 But everytime I see your 562 run i go back to undecided! Lol
Great content as always!
the 565 is in between them .
I was a husqy guy once.....until I got some echos 😂. Lol j/k I like almost everything, seriously though idk what it is your looking to do farm/ranch work, homestead,pro logger but for the range your looking at purchasing take a gander at the 620 or 7310 echo..620 likely more in the area your looking but they are built more old school simple basic carb design for the most part and tend to not blow up as soon(of course them moving slower contributes to the longevity) ..just a thought one saw guy to another I was straight husqy for years...decades and still have some built playtoys I enjoy but I'm impressed with the echos for being an ol dirty workhorse it's about like comparing a Ford 300 to a 302
572 is nice. I have a562. I used a 32 on it once and it did it ok... but not everyday. The 572 will pull a 32 all day long and do it smiling.
@@wolfmanrebel874 no doubt the echos look to be great saws, don't see much in the way of dealer support in my area for them though. Mostly Stihl, followed way behind by Husky. But I sure like the looks of their price point and apparent quality.
@@Piledriver2235 it's the same here the local co-op is husky dealer, mom and pop hardware store is Stihl it's about an hour or so to a echo dealer so I certainly get that issue
Great video, I run a couple of 562's just upgrading the air filter on one to see how it compares to the original setup. The spikes are the only disappointing feature in my opinion. I like Echo's good saws but not common here in Oz.
The spikes are an easy upgrade. The West coast kit is only $40 which is reasonable for big spikes and a 3/4 wrap handle.
I'd like to see a comparison between with the pro version, the Echo cs-620p. similar price point aslo.
My last two huskys had bad carbs from the factory my echo doesn't die like my sthil
External clutch puts the chain closer to the center line of the crank. Internal clutch stays cleaner. 6 one way, half dozen another. I like both saws though
Great comparison ,very cool video TINMAN ,,thanks for your hardwork budy ,and keeping stuff simple ,take er easy
I just picked up a new CS-590 w/ 20" bar & chain for $330. Thr 562xp w/ 20" bar & chain is selling for right around $825. IMO - buy two 590's, and save the $160 for when you have a lot of cutting to do ...that way you can buy coffee, food, or beer to lure a friend over to use the other saw.
HUSQVARNA 562 XP® $789 MSRP. The Echo 590 MSRP $399-419 depending on bar length. The Echo wins the bang for the buck.
Between you and buckin I think I wanna try a 562. As always WORK SAFE 🇨🇦🇨🇦😎😎
Mornin Welder
I used a 590 for just one cut to see what it was like and to me it felt just like a husqvarna 455 rancher . Now the 590 doesn't cost that much here in California but the 455 is definitely cost less than the Canada price of the 590 . If u really wanna put the 590 to test it on a similar saw then the 455 would be your best bet
The 455 doesn’t hold a candle to 590.
I sold my 460 rancher after I bought the echo 590, no comparison
I’d like to see you mod a ea7900prz makita or should I say “Dolkita”. Would be a cool build and a little different.
Absolutely love the blue 7900s !
590 Timberwolf was the 600P with more plastic to reduce the cost. You can put the handles, clutch cover, etc right on the Timberwolf off a 600P and the newer 620P. And as you found out, the ignition system as well.
I get a special satisfaction watching that Husqvarna slice through the wood..
I’m happy you had such great luck with the 562xp. Mine was a 2016 model with lots of issues. The 562 saw lasted 19 hours and toast. Since new was hard starting never seemed to run right. Think I got a lemon. It was my backup saw so out of the warranty time frame by the time it went. Reached out to Husqvarna and nothing they would do. Last Husqvarna equipment I’ll ever buy after that experience. Thanks for doing this review for the drastic price difference planning on trying the Echo out.
Tinmaaaaan, man I like that 562xp. Been looking for one gently used, it's a bit new for my stable but I'm willing to part with a couple to get into one. The wife might not like me buying a new one but I've heard husqvarna has discontinued this model.. Might have to bite the bullet.. Always a pleasure spending time watching your content.. SLANT'E.
Husqvarna has not discontinued the 562xp
Husqvarna came out with an upgraded screw on air cleaner for the 562xp
we have a 400 echo it has been a good saw also have 28 super , 41 av and 46 sthil they are great saws. the new sthils have been bad the 390 and 230 i have traded off. we have two husqvarna that we never had any luck with a 55 and a 42. i will never buy a new husqvarna or sthil. may trade the 55 and 42 huskys for a echo cs590 thank you for video it will help a lot of people start there husky and other will know the echo is the best buy.
Many of times I've shut down a saw not to get her started again. So hot out vapor lock takes over on them.
@@williamwallace9620 thanks brother! I'll give her a shot.
I am curious on the longevity between the two. The high RPM of the husky would seem to wear out faster then the lower RPM echos.
What are the internals of the echo in comparison? Will it take the long term abuse like an xp?
Love my 562XP and my 550XP MK2.
Now that you’ve been playing with the 590 are you going to try and port 620?
I know you’ve had some issues with the 590 for a while now and I’m just interested to know if the echo CS 620 is in the future for porting?
I had a old echo when i was 16. , maybe something like a 4900. Its been a long time. It was a really good learner saw. It had a tip guard that protected from kick backs and you work on the fundamentals of being safe. Since then i have had about 4 maybe 5 stihls. Now my 14 year old 361 is starting to age. Im looking at that husky. It looks like a fun saw
husky faster saw ,,BUT Echo will out last ,,I ran husky for over 30 yrs ,,but when they chipped them ,,they dont last ,,best I got out of them new was 152 hours ,so switched to echo ,,trouble free for the 2 yrs I been running echo and they half the price
Seriously considering this as my new saw (also the MS271 & 455 Rancher). I currently have the CS310 & CS400. I think I can get away with offloading the 400 and keeping the 310 for smaller tasks.
I personally did not like my 455 rancher and I'm a big husky fan. Running a echo 590 with a 24in bar and a husky 395xp with a 32 in. I'd take that echo over any mid grade husky. It's pretty much bulletproof. That being said husky xp saws are my choice saws especially 3 series
@@polodog1483 Wound up with a CS490/24, kept the 310 for sentimental reasons (dads...2/2/22), still have his old Husqy 345. Got a steal on a pair of MS251/18's....relegated to SxS trail clearing duties. Still looking for a good 50cc, got it down to the MS261, 545mk2/550xp. I need a light limbing/bucking saw
I like how you said you have older saws however you put miles on the husky which is newer. Just don't understand people's thinking when Stihl, husky s and others have long since quit that echo will still be running strong.
I have bone stock 590 with a 24 but im running an oregon chain via a echo dealer recommendation close to me and i have no complaints with how it cuts.. a buddy gets mad it will cut circles around his 461 ported but he wont keep the chain sharp 🤣🤣
Shouldn't get mad unless he's mad at himself in that case.
I was extremely happy with jonsered 2159 c i just lost in a fire i think they had the best turbo air i don't know why husky didn't use or keep it. Same company i used to work fir them and echo. All good stuff. Echo is always reliable husky always wants the hipo edge
Echo 590 online price $399. Husky 562 (chainsaws direct) $789.
I was we had those prices in Germany, 562 xp costs 1300€ and the echo 799€
The echo 620 would be a better comparison to the 562, I have a 590 and I love it, it's not my go to saw but very impressed every time I use it, keep the chain sharp, I have a wrap handle on the 590, just because I can
Tinman! Sweet video. I think @Donyboy73 has a 562xp in his shed that needs a top end... I'm trying to convince him to let me have a go at it!
Hey dave been a pleasure watching you grow into what you are today keep up the good work
@@joshuap7501 thank you!
Had 590 3 months old and piston went right at 10th tank and my echo dealer wouldn't cover it says was a fuel problem which is bs because run same with my other saws and they ran perfectly fine so 590 been in peices in a box for 3 years now u want it for parts
2 best saw brands. Most reliable
My most used saw is my echo 620 , second most used is my 562 xp the 620 I recently had it tuned up and the echo blows my mind every time I use it just a fantastic saw and it cost me 300 less than my 562 don't get me wrong the 562 is great but for 500 bucks that 620 gives me equivalent performance . If you liked how the timberwolf Performed compared to your 562 I'd love to see your thoughts on the 620 against it I'd also love to see you out a 28 on both and see which one pulls it better I've ran a 28 on my 620 and it's very agressive but I like it best with a 24 and I like the way the 562 runs with a 20 on it there is definitely something to be said for the torque that echo puts out I've cut some seriously big wood with that 620 I also have a 7310 and it definitely gives some serious competition to my 372 if someone were to ask me what saw they should get I would recommend them echo with 200 confidence that they'd be able to get through whatever they're cutting and also my echos burp after 2 choke pulls then start with one pull after that every time
pardon which do you like more the cs620 or the cs7310p?
@@enginnerdedtohoopajoop4604 they're. Kinda tied in my mind really , but if I had to pick it would really come down to looks and the 7310 is in my opinion just a way sexier saw lol they're both fantastic performers though and they'd be a good choice to add to any saw lineup
@@joehertel8846 thank you Sir! pardon which do you like more the cs620 or the 562?
@@enginnerdedtohoopajoop4604 oh that's a straight tie right there the 562 is all about the rpms , and the cs620 is all about the torque they perform equally in my use of them , except the 562 might cut about a 1/2 second faster
I'll also say this , the 620 loses way less rpm in the cut atleast by mye ears and feel anyway (when cutting large hardwoods like say 30 Inches or more ) but they're both fantastic saws, I will say out of the box the echo is the better but because it comes with a 5 year warranty costs less , on paper they're only separated by a .2 HP . I prefer to run a 24 on the 620 and a 20 on the 562 they can both pull a24or 28 but it's just seems to me that the 620 has an easier job of it , and the benefit of the 562 is the auto tune keeps it running at its highest performance however if you are decent with adjusting a carburetor than save the extra money and go with the echo the performance difference between the two is negligible however you will absolutely love either of them and if either one was my only saw I would be fine for pretty much anything short of a Sequoya or red wood
I cut professional 6 days a week i bought 2 huskys 2 sthils 2 590 Timberwolves the echo cut 600 cords one saw all the other saws quit my Timberwolves are the only saws i will spend my money on
I’d like to see you do a comparison with the Echo 620p vs the 562xp. Pro vs pro
Thanks for the video tinman! You do real good with the information and understanding in your videos been awhile since I've commented hope all is well with you and the community! I have a 620 echo the carb is different for sure it makes me feel as if it's got a problem not sure I haven't took it apart to see if you start it and tach it wide open it's 8500 then stick it is wood and after it gets a few cuts in it'll go to 13200 but that is the the low jet at 2 and the high jet dang close to shut off not even a quarter open they are strong saws but I believe a husqvarna is a lot better saw still not sure the echo does get the job done for sure tho have a great one!
I have never used primer blub and never pulled more than once or twice and I live in Texas where I see temp of high 90s ever day and humidity 80s to 90s never had a problem with my 562xp I also run stihl ms291 both damn good saws I like stihl better because of the in board clutch
562xp 2020 Version you can use the 550xp air filters in the same exact thing but about 20 cheaper
The 620p. Is just hard to beat for the money, it’s very close to the 562 to me not worth the extra money and not to mention the warranty which I voided the first tank lol
Sometimes I cut hard for hours straight. Is the 562 going to get hotter and hotter? Is it going to be self destructive?
If the 590 is stock, it actually did better against the 562XP than I expected. A fair comparison would be the 620P against the 562XP. Here in the US the 590 is half the price of the 562XP.
The 590 is basicly a echo 455 rancher
@@mrtree1368 The 590 is more in line with the 460 Rancher imo. I'd buy the 590 over both the 455 or 460. 590 is around $100-$150 cheaper, but the huge difference is the magnesium split case vs plastic clamshell of the Rancher line. And I'm confident the 590 has more grunt/torque as well.
@@obeconoberougle9497 with a 20 inch bar the saws are similar in performance but I'd probably put my money on the 455 . I've used both saws and my 455 never let's me down and im sure the same with 590 and the 460 isn't worth the price for the added power less than a .5 hp . Now if u can get the 590 off ebay for around 350 then that would be a good price cause the 455s arnt as cheap as they were 7 years ago. Yea the Ranchers arnt built as solid but they don't brake I've had mine for over 7 years and everything holds up and I do tree work professionally
@@mrtree1368 Totally agree that the 460 is over priced. The 455 is definitely the better buy of the two. The only Husky I have is the 440e. I have to say, so far I've been really happy with that lil bugger. It's snappy and powerful for it's size. Sharp chain and properly tuned it's impressive. I think Husqvarna has one of, if not the best AV systems on their saws. My other two saws are both Echo pro models. The 501P and 620P. Build quality and performance is excellent for the money imo. I do wish they used an air filter like the 400 or the new 7310 though.
@@obeconoberougle9497 the 455 is the most affordable bigger husky saw but it's probably the weakest too but with a 20 inch bar you can cut fire wood or cut down trees with good enough performance. If it was my old tree company I would be using a 357 or a 372. u really want a bigger saw when it comes to real wood cutting. But for me my next bigger saw is a stihl ms 390 (64cc) with a 28 inch bar then I got a 395 xp. My small ground saws are echos 370 and 400 and the new 3510 then the next step up is a stihl 021 and 024. I don't have all the saws some other tree guys have but I'm all about knowing what u need to get the job done without making ur self look silly lol
Timber Wolf maybe the best saw I ever bought
Is the 590 a open bar where one can change the bar without dealing with the clutch
so the echo 590 is not the pro model the 620p is the pro-version so it would be interesting to see the specs
Is this with the stock carb and coil back in the 590?
Yep all stock.
It seems like it's obvious the faster rpm saw is going to cut noticeably faster in soft wood.
Not sure why go thru this comparison without running them thru oak or maple....
Put a long bar on the husky and see how the high rpms fail. I run 32" skip on a 600p echo and it pulls it Exactly as well as 20"...
Like to see husky try that on for size. And then time them 💁♂️
Beautiful property.
620 might be closer comparison?
Love my 562. Can’t keep crank bearings in them though
Have a new 621sx at work. Its a horrible saw. Its big and wide feels bad in the hand. Also it cant pull even a 16inch bar in dry pine. It has no snappyness and just feels like a tractor in wood. Trying to cut notches on logs was one of the worst experiences i have had. The 254xp, 359, 357xp, 560xp and a jonsered 2260 all cut 10 times better and feel great in the hand. The 357 and 560 are in a league of its own in comparison when cutting notches in dry wood. Echo is a lazy and clumsy saw. Maybe a .325 chain and porting can make it better.
Not a fair comparison you should have compared the echo 620p to the husky 562xp. The 520 echo is not their flagship saw in the 60cc class.
Have to admit, here is USA the husky is $800-$900 lol.
Compared to $450 highest price for 20" bar (somehow the 24" is $419.... 🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️)
So for half the price, homeowners should take the 590 i would think
590 is not a pro grade saw... Anybody expecting this to run with 562's or ms 362's are not being realistic. There's a big price difference. The more expensive saws had better perform faster.
Was either one of them ported or muffler moded? I would def take that cs-590 over that husky