The Aston Martin Vantage F1 Edition Has a Dumb Name but Smart Improvements - Two Takes
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As Aston Martin develops the V8 Vantage platform further, under the guidance of Tobais Moers (stolen from Mercedes-AMG), the car only improves. The new "F1 Edition," may have a silly name, but it has lots of functional improvements including 24 more horsepower, a recalibrated suspension, improved aerodynamics and a reprogrammed transmission, making this the most dynamically rewarding V8 Vantage yet.
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The Aston Martin Vantage F1 Edition Has a Dumb Name but Smart Improvements - Two Takes
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The extra 24 HP is to help offset the weight of all the F1 badges.
Sigh people need to understand torque is more important.
Fun fact that Pontiac used to advertise in the 60s. Torque wins races and HP sells cars.
@@BeingMe23 The more torque the better, however there is something magical about ripping around in a car with an engine capable of high rpms...preferably on back roads at night! My next project will be a small block Ford (302 or 289) with a mechanical flat tappet cam / titanium valve train in appropriately high flow heads (ported Victor Jrs or maybe AFR.) aiming for 9,000 rpms! Nothing sounds like a screaming, high rpm push-rod Ford!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BeingMe23 as someone who recently traded my Golf TDI for a Veloster N with pretty much the same amount of torque, let me say: you need more than torque.
@@CrazyDavy22 Well Torque gets the car off the line fast but the HP gives you top end. This why Dragster have high HP due to max speed is needed.
But a daily street car needs more torque for easy take off from a start.
Lucky my 2009 VOLVO C70 with a 5 cyl turbo has MAX torque from 1500 to 5000 rpm which odd for gas motor so small. It acts a diesel with such low rpm torque.
I know the Vantage isn't the best modern sports car and certainly has some flaws but.....having only seen a few in person, they are mega cool. Huge curb appeal.
I think the “double negative edition” would have somehow sounded better.
You mean it would have sounded “less worse” 🤣
Aston Martin Vantage AMG-,
as opposed to those Mercedes' AMG's "+" versions.
Those Wheels look ridiculous! When are we going to stop increasing wheel size?
The chronic Aston issue.
It’s good but ………… just not there. Never great. Never number one. Just has a fancy name and a cache but it’s never at any pinnacle of any aspect of a sports car. Had one for two years and agree.
Ok baby but the next video in English Tanks 😁👍
F1? wow
Nice, but I still prefer a Fiat 500.
Over 2 minutes of ad in the beginning is a bit much...
dudes gotta make a living. i'll allow it
I'll never get over the fact that this costs about 50k more than it should
It costs a Mustang GT more than it should
@@BrendanEvan well said.
Gotta pay that Aston Martin tax
Blame the oil princes and Chinese for keeping them afloat.
old video but the used prices have adjusted accordingly. IDK about the f1 version but the regular vantage is considerably cheaper than a AMG GTC
the Aston vantage one of my favorite cars I've ever owned. not only the best looking car on the market now (e tron gt and mc20 aside) but its surprisingly capable around a track and on canyon runs - Was not only keeping up with but beating porsche GTSs and GT3s (see Grand Tour time of it equalling the gt3 rs around the track). Amazing do everything exotic almost super car that gets overlooked toady. Sad I let it go.
Congrats 🎉
Why did you sell Aston, if I may ask you !
If you listen to interviews with the designated F1 pace car driver (champion GT car driver) he talks about how he is on the absolute limit and the drivers behind him are still complaining about him going too slowly for them to keep heat in the tires. So at that level of motorsport, 25 HP will absolutely make a difference.
Agreed.
I copy and pasted a comment I made earlier,
"I will go out on a limb here, and say,
@@Leshic2 They aren’t out of touch. They know exactly who the buyers are, but they review cars from the perspective from, and for enthusiasts.
Yeah he said this was at its limit and still slow vs the AMG GTR that it replaced.
DBS Superlegerra need some performance updates too, not sure why AM is sleeping on that one.
The entire line up gets a refresh for 23-24.
Aston Martin is barely surviving as a company. They can't afford to design more than one product at a time.
werent better help outed as essentially a scam a couple of years back?
You guys are such a great pair. I appreciate both of your perspectives, and you're generally just a high functioning duo. Great review!
I actually love these cars. If they depreciate like AMG products this would be a sweet car in 3 years for 100k (if chips are ever a thing again).
Oh they even more than amg products.
Or if they depreciate like aston martin products...
Vantage wasn't worth anything ever. You could get a 30K dealer lease on these, before expenses of course but something absurdly cheap like that, they weren't selling so they just started giving them away basically.
If I could afford the expenses, Vantage would be my go to, I mean you couldn't get a BMW M4 comp for that caper lol.
I’ve had my f1 for 6 months, and it’s now worth 10% more than what i bought it for
@@sultanniazi2394 nope...
I think it looks pretty good. It almost looks like a stretched f type
But nowhere near as sexy as the Ftype
@@miyahtallulah Yes, first gen F-Type
Come see my new band: Aggressive Idle Creep
Should be a decent used pick or repo auction target.
These things look great when u see one in person u know what it is and it is rare
The thing with the mode button not always responding, I wonder if that's intentionally ignoring the first press to avoid accidental presses? Or is it really just that bad?
It just requires a firm press is all.
@@norbertsobotko1790 On my 2020 Vantage, the trick to the button is to hold it in for a moment. An instantaneous click doesn't register, so just hold it a moment longer.
"With the purchase of the car, you get a complimentary membership to the Big Wang Gang." 🤣😂🤣😂
What a terrible name and car
not worth the price tag....
Jesus, the 'old' in here reeks. Giving shit over a couple of badges. Christ, did you forget what fun was???
I'm a die hard Mercedes man, and I find this thing absolutely beautiful and more intriguing than a GTC or GTR. Also, one thing you can't get with a Mercedes is a total 12 year unlimited mile warranty, so you can thrash the car like it was meant to be.
Kids in Adult Clothing need to stop with these Commercials! Getting rich won't make you happy! Just makes you not worry about money... 🤦♂️
Aston martin's strenght is in beauty and style (the image or perception at least). When i look at their current line-up i can't see any of that anymore. I would rather have the amg gtr with more power and a dct and less ugly wings.
The DBS Superlegerra is extremely beautiful.
Looks like the wing was placed about a foot too far forwards
I'm a fan of the car overall but how do Aston Martin of all manufacturers keep making these outrageously ugly and cheap looking interiors???
I know this is nitpicking but There is no point in doing the tunnel noises if you don’t take the camera out of the car. All we hear is wind. They were doing it for a little while but have now stopped once again.
it's not less camber; it's more negative camber. This isn't math. One direction is positive and one direction is negative. More negative means more in the negative direction. Less camber would be closer to 0, in either direction.
more negative camber isnt a double negative because you can have positive or negative camber so its two completely different things camber isn't always negative.
you guys were being too harsh I like the name.
Terrible design.
I think it looks great minus the cheap badges that remind me of the F1 store
Those donk wheels....
Wait, Aston sells thing... Like this, eww
We don’t mind you being a little critical because in the UK we find it a little bit embarrassing too.
Design peaked with the DBS. This car suffers from the same thing that every car suffers from now: fish face. I'm so over it.
Generally not feeling this Aston. It's hard to imagine myself saying it, but I don't care for the styling, engine sound, or general vibe of this car. And the wing is so, so bad. And the beltline is just absurdly too high.
does the ZF 8spd pair better with the 4.0 than the dual clutch in the AMG GT?
no
Oh, do AM did not get the DCT? That is bad.
This looks like a cartoon version of an Aston Martin.
200% more is 3 times as much.
They ruined a really pretty car with that ugly wing
I saw a kid in Geneva driving this with his learner sticker on. Crazy car to learn how to drive!
Not a kid. And no, there's nothing crazy as there is essentially no difference in driving a Vantage compared to any other car. Actually it's easier as most learn with manual cars, since they have to take the test with a manual car in order to be allowed to drive manual cars when they get their license.
Does this car come with the Vettel unforced spin feature?
Of course! The F1 is to make money, its like youtube channels running sponsored adds to make a living :)
The F1 edition should have some bolstering in the seats I wouldn't get it because seats that's the 1 thing supercars have to have is great seats..
I disagree, the name is fine. I agree, the badges are cheap. For a true F1 experience, they should have taken the flat-plane crank from the GT Black Series.
Future
I think so, after Mercedes got their 20%. Next Valhalla will used the Black Amg V8. So I thing in the future they will put it in the vantage
Love the video! Question - would tunnel runs sound better with windows up? Currently with windows down it seems to clip more than give accurate sound on most TST videos. With windows up, you'd hear the difference through the cabin still? Maybe?
I think the tunnel run is more for them to enjoy.
....those rear impact bulges remind me of 80's bumpers
Hey Matt! Just wondering the story behind your jacket with a Spanish flag. Asking as a Spanish viewer.
This car has no chance compared to the Porsche 992 911 GTS. The Porsche 911 is just on another level.
Mr. Zacks claim at the end of the video is quite irrelevant, because an Aston Martin for "80.000" bucks compared to a 140.000 Dollar expensive 911 GTS is kind of a fairy tale and totally unrealistic bullshit. He just can't compare the price of an used Aston Martin vs. a new Porsche 911. This is bullshit! For just 80.000 Dollars maybe Mr. Zack gets only one half of an Aston Martin Vantage. Therefore I absolutely disagree with his claim, that such an (in theory) "less expensive" Aston Martin looks "more expensive" than the 911 GTS.
Basically any Aston Martin competitor to a Porsche 911 model is much more expensive than the Porsche. The other thing is, that Porsche 911 design is much more mature. The 911 design is its own classic and doesn't need to prove anything.
For example the Aston Vantage front still looks like it's borrowed from a (very wide) Mazda Miata.
Zacks claim, that the look of an Aston Vantage is more special than the design of a totally superior 911 GTS is totally superficial and makes no sense at all, because there are a lot of people, who feel it exactly the other way. And the 911 GTS just wipes its ass in any possible way with the Aston Martin Vantage "F1 Edition".
If certain "sports car buyers" have a problem with the 911 design, because it isn't "flashy" enoung... Fine. Go for the cheap looking, slower, less quality Brit vehicle with the German engine and transmission... Which are still the best parts of the Aston Martin Vantage.
2 15 on marketing!!! Wow matt!
And yet, this pace car actually slowed down the F1 cars when it came out and got a lot of complaints vs the AMG GTR.
"Two Takes"... I think you really missed out on "Double Take" here.
going to get this after it drops in price a bit more, coming from an r8 - 'different is better sometimes'
For being an F1 Edition and how expensive this thing is how is there no carbon fiber under the hood in place of all of that plastic?
Looks a bit weird and the wheels are horribly large. Disproportionate. The late 00's V8 vantage was the sweet spot. Oh well, people's sense of aesthetics is going down the toilet so I'm sure they'll find a bunch of cash cows to sustain this.
Just buy a used GT3. Stoppppp
"knob bashing" again? As an owner you get to know them shortly! As a sports car driver I don't wanna fiddle through menues on a screen; I want to press a button or a switch and get a result.
The front grill is strange and frowny. The normal version looks way better.
*Comes with an intermittently working drinks bottle, Nice touch .
13:05 I thought it suddenly had a bottom end death rattle. Sounded like a brick was thrown inside a washing machine.
Now that's a car!
$180k???? no thx, ill take a gt3 please...
that car aint worth a hair over $135k
Yikes that wing looks tacked on.
when looking for another option to replace my Huracan 580-2, this car is nothing...not exciting to drive, sounds terrible....at least AM lets you go to the rev limiter, other than that..BLAH;; got an EVO RWD; thats exciting
It's an extremely weak offering in the segment. For some reason you'd have to want to spend more to buy a worse AMG GT. I'd rather have a 911 GTS or 718 compared to this, at any price.
Fair enough but sounds terrible?
Its funny - I actually owned both at the same time. And aside from the exhaust (and transmission) which obviously advantage lambo, I loved the AM a lot more. Felt faster (and was faster), better looking, more practical and actually was surprisingly better on canyon runs. And has the cooler (non douchey) badge... But the EVO is such an upgrade over the regular huracan so think you did it right.
I would go see that band
Mercedes will never let AM make a car that is superior to an AMG.
those wheels are not flattering imo, the ones on the actual safety car look way better.
That wing is ugly, looks like they glued it in. Stock looks much better
The wheels look and inch two big, wing is silly, badging is goofy buuuuuuuuuuut it is still a cool car
I think the wheels are too big and the wing is out of place, mounted a little foward.
Exactly what entitled car show host act like Mocking perfection
Magnificent car, too bad all I heard was complaining...
The car's face looks like Shake from Aqua Tee Hunger Force.
I like the green they are using.
Is that Alex's coat?
Vantage SC would have been a better name
Don't kill the tumbleweed!!
Car looks amazing, without the rear wing.
Aston Martin F1, there you go, jesus christ.
More negative camber is a positive thing. Put that on a shirt.
i miss the sound of the old V8. This doesn't sound special
AMG GTs just look and drive better.
It has an option for race seats.
You rode the bad name narrative into the title...zzz
might be the worst center dash/console i've seen
AMG power FTW 💪
Rename it V8 Vantage Double Negative.
Aston Martin missed the mark by not calling it the "Drive to Survive" Edition!
Please test an I4 M50. 🙂
Great vid. Christ these cars fucking ugly. Aston has fallen so far so fast it's ridiculous. The VH cars were peak Aston. Everything since has just been garbage.
i'm partial to the looks but this trim is gaudy.
Rode wireless go 2?
The front end is starting to look a bit fishy
15:30 Wow, a Mitsubishi Raider!
Around 12:00 wouldn't they just hold the clutch packs a bit less than fully open to transfer torque during shifting? Torque converters cannot decouple on their own. They CAN(and will) run the transmission fluid through the stator (actually running the fluid backwards against a higher pitch set of vanes) at 0MPH (for multiplying torque to get the car moving over mechanical rolling resistance). Now keep in mind I've been awake for a long time, and I haven't exactly read the ZF gearbox technical manuals, but it's just something that went through my head. You change a torque converter from regular to High Stall to keep it in gear to a higher RPM, but when shifting the clutch packs do all the work of decoupling the engine from the tires.
I can’t believe they used the F1 name for this… shoulda saved it for one of their HyperCars
the spoiler is in the wrong place !