I really liked actually seeing the xeno's in the light for once. We've seen like 10 movies where they're in the shadows, and it works great, but im super happy Scott threw us a bone and was like 'here ya go kids!" for me it ramps the fear factor up a bit higher as you see them movie like a cross between a spider and a human. Its pretty cool
Something about when an actor plays two different characters who interact is that they have to make sure they sound different so the audience doesn’t loose track of who’s saying what
I rewatched Covenant the other day (it was on TV) and had a thought, consider this: The first Engineer David meets (in Prometheus) rips his head off within minutes, with no explanation. So, when he's approaching a whole planet full of them, is it really that surprising that he decides to wipe them out? He's already shown that he's willing to murder humans (Holloway, with the black goo) who he owes his entire existence to. It's actually 'logical' that his self preservation would kick in, considering that from his point of view he owes the Engineers nothing and they are 'in his way'.
Physical monster vs a soulless monster. Does David understand morality, does he have empathy? It's hard to say, its a good question. Both commit evil acts, the xenomorph sheerly on instinct but is David being evil? Or does he not truley comprehend the line between good and evil? Or has he grown above that line?
The clearly evil robot obviously. Xenomorphs are beautiful in their biology and they are animals, predators of a level that even challenges a Yatuah warrior(predator).
It involves the question of whether you can grow beyond what you were “made” to be, and what is considered truly “bad” (by human definition). David was made to serve humans, but chooses to grow beyond that to serve what he considers to be a greater purpose. Xenos, according to this film, were created to be the perfect organsim and essentially stay the perfect organism. Is it worse to be something that only knows violence and has no capability or motivation to grow beyond it, or something that has the ability to choose and chose to do what it thinks is right (despite whatever suffering that choice causes)?
Can we just make note of David's movement pattern in the prologue scene with him and Weyland? All the motions are so bloody smooth - too smooth. The rotation of every single joint is too perfect, and really makes him appear... unhuman. Acted uncanny valley effect at its best.
i thing that alien do not need oxygen and since i am not satisfied with movies and where are they going let assume that some fans movies fix in the future what fox made bad about alien origin and so on. because it do not give a sense nothing just some sort of genetic things when you expect that biomechanoid just do not pop out after 10 years of some experiments even more new born looks like fully grown miniature of adult when giger clearly designed it like worm due to disgust from worm parasites venturing under your skin and by far aesthetic of the movie is just reflection of old alien and its really feel it due to lack of giger presents. well there in first movie work together one of the most genius brains of that decade and surrealism (psychological reflection in art) and Freud psychology from sixties had very strong influence on cinema. why this is important? well it is, because if you do not have corner stone like Ridley do not have it now, you can not make psychological movie and you put there such a ideas relevant today, like danger of ai. let say that Ridley did it first and really want to create some sort of horror of that danger but it do not have the same dark corners of unconsciousness and all that mysteries. idea is interesting but far less developed then that one before and literally less potent in case of horror. just dark future of terminator and matrix did a lot of exploration in this philosophical matter. alien should forever stayed surreal, freudian and lowecraftian. not religious, mythological and danikenian
Zuu Kuu this is how i think of Ridley from Metroid (being BASED on the Xenos). i know that the only time we see him actually do that is in Prime 1 as a cyborg, but maybe he can even when he's 100% organic. also your picture's a cutie.
Actually, after thinking some more... it wasn't established outright that they dont need oxygen, all together. Think it just seemed that way because the alien was robust enough to survive outside of the ship for a time but realistically it wasn't out there that long... I guess that kind of makes people (including myself) assume however, there's no reason the alien couldn't have adapted to only need a breath once every few hours, just like a crocodile.
well, I'm fine with Prometheus having no xenomorphs but they marketed it as an alien film that would have them and they had discount Xenos so yea. and they complain about too many xenomorphs because the more you see them the less scary they become
Well, theres no Xenomorphs. These are NEOMORPHS. No wonder they look so terrible. That and they didn't use practical effects. Wish they had less David though, lol. Ridley Scott is capitulating to fans, so lets have less David next movie!
@@phousefilms while the neomorphs were entirely cgi, the xenomorphs (or protomorphs if you wanna be picky) are a combination of cgi and practical effects
Personally, I would have respected the movie a lot more if they kept to their original plan for the prometheus sequels. Similarly to how I feel about the sequel trilogy of Star Wars. I really did not like Prometheus and I hated most of The last Jedi, but I would have respected their sequels a lot more had they stuck to their original idea rather than caving in to the haters and pandering to angry fans who won't like it either way. As it stands, Covenant is not a good movie, and more important for my argument, it's not a movie I can respect because it's obvious the plot was changed because of the haters.
Agreed. It gave me the best of both worlds with Prometheus’s big unanswered questions/mysteries, and Alien’s horror/gory aspects. On top of that there’s two David Fassbenders, which after his roles in both Prometheus and the newer X-men movies, I was very happy to see them both, as well as how they differ from eachother
Same. My biggest wish in the whole world is for the 3rd movie to take place on a full blown Giger planet. A truly nightmarish world beyond human comprehension.
@@orgywithpigs6 my god that would be AWESOME. Scott said that with the ending of this saga we would have seen the homeland of the engineers and that all questions would find an answer. Unfortunately, thanks to all the haters I'm afraid we'll never see any of this.
Plain and simply: Don`t be the black guy, the extremely hot blonde chick, or the horny couple in any horror movie, because then you have a higher chance of survival. I`m not saying that you WILL survive, you just have a HIGHER chance of survival.
@@purplexninjamom Actually those guys are contractually obliged to be credited as producers on the Alien films for some obscure reason even though neither have worked on one since about Alien 3. I recall Ridley Scott mentioning it in an interview and gave the impression he used there names for the androids as a jib at them [similar to deliberately contradicting AVP due to his dislike of those films].
Finally, a positive review of this film. I will never say that those who didn't like this film don't have valid complaints, but I find that most of those negative reviews are based on the viewer's personal expectations for the movie and the franchise as a whole. In my opinion, this was an excellent film with a few flaws that some people can't seem to get past. If they want to get hung up on those issues, that's fine, but I honestly can't wait for the next installment!
I think this is easily the best of the series since Aliens. Really, the only flaw I can find is that the alien's life cycle seems drastically accelerated so as to bring the Xenomorph into the scene in time to menace the remaining characters. I love the David/Walter dynamic and that scene of aliens attacking people in a field, at night, lit by firelight...god, that was awesome. I hope Scott gets to finish this trilogy.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks There are a lot more problems than just that. Before I go on though let me preface, I'm not looking to start an argument, and if you like this film that is great. So, you have a huge cast of characters in this film, which doesn't allow us to get invested in them at all. You know they're all basically just fodder. The first Alien had a tight cast, and we got to know them at least a bit before they died. Plus, everyone in here all seem to act like morons. Even in a breathable atmosphere, you don't go out into an alien environment without some kind of protection, since you have no idea what pathogens could be lurking. We knew this when the movie came out, hell we even vaccinate people on our own planet when they just cross the ocean, but they don't even bother here. One guy even puts his face down to a plant-thing that obviously shot something out of itself. Also the fact that no one really questions David on his story, he leads them through a forest of Engineer corpses, and even after the one guy has explicit proof that he's up to no good, he still takes David at his word and goes right up to an alien egg and puts his FACE near it, rather than shooting David when he had the chance. There is just a host of issues with the film, in my opinion.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Dear god no, this film is an abortion. It completely retcons everything and forces characters to engage in stupidity in order for the plot to happen. Unlike in Prometheus where human error spurred some of the events, in Covenant, EVERYTHING is literally solely the result of their incompetence, lack of foresight or precautions, and their naivety. Covenant spits in the face of people who liked Alien and Aliens in order to chase after David who is successful not because of his own brilliance but because of the creators poor writing ability.
I honestly can't think of another director that creates such dreadfully beautiful landscape shots. Especially from space down to a planet. Something about the way he composes the shots and designs the worlds, they are beautiful, stark, terrifying, mysterious, draw you in, all at once.
Explosion? Dead dude? Alien?...Meh. The soundtrack is indeed incredible, it's so stressful and creepy, I love it. Just don't listen to it while walking down your hallway in the dark, I learned that the hard way. I just bumped into my dog, not a neomorph, definitely not a neomorph. I think Covenant is my favourite movie of 2017 by far.
Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon how can a franchise rip itself off? Is the Force Awakens soundtrack ripping off the other Star Wars films because it uses the same themes? Don't be absurd. Covenant is a phenomenal and unique soundtrack, Jed Kurzel is a genius, the creepy backward flute and bell effects are what make it so powerful and that has never been heard in any Alien soundtrack before.
Both soundtracks are top-notch, pretty close to the original concept too, with nice contemporary touch. The sound of Prometheus is a little more wild and "techy", Covenant's opening theme is heart melting :D
David didn't create *the* Xenomorph. He *RE*created it, within his means, ie. not an exactly identical species compared to the "real" Xenomorphs. The reasons: - The ancient Engineer ruins from Prometheus feature prominent Xenomorph murals in the in-universe year 2093 - The Space Jockey ship was carrying Xenomorph eggs, which had been there for most likely hundreds of years. David created the Protomorph in the in-universe year 2104. The Space Jockey was discovered in the in-universe year 2122, just 18 years after Alien Covenant. So even if somehow the Space Jockey from Alien was carrying eggs created by David, the timelines don't match - the Engineer murals were discovered in 2093. 11 years before David created the egg in Covenant.
I don't mind the idea of David making his own version, but to have him responsible for the real Xeno is crap. The prequels are too much about the androids, that's one of the problems.
I'm probably in the minority but I loved Prometheus. This was not as good. I would rather have watched Shaw's journey to this planet or the engineer's home planet.
Prometheus was solid as a separate story. I kind of feel it's lessened by directly connecting it to Alien before that story arc was really complete. Though as David's story it works. I wanted to see Shaw's story. Such a sad ending for her though. It's basically David in the Thanos role now.
Absolutely agree. I loved Prometheus. It took the franchise in a new direction with a new feel and still managed to have some amazingly horrifying and intense sequences.
good vid but I think you missed one really cool important part. when David takes Walter's place after they defeat the xenomorph and are going back up to the main ship a gust of wind blows David's hood up. when we first see david in the film he is shown as a hooded figure. that was really the first example of foreshadowing before the part when he tells Daniels its his duty.
Poppy M wasn't exactly a twist. They wanted you to know David would take Walters place. That's why it was made so obvious, not poor writing, it was intentional writing.
So what is that, exactly? Is it homosexuality or incest if it's between robots? The only thing that I can truly call it is robosexuality . . . but honestly it's also rather incesto-gay as well.
Something I think people forget during the second finale is that David flinches when the alien strikes the camera. All throughout the movie we’ve seen Walter show basically no emotion so that’s another way you could’ve seen the Walter/David thing going. In the Extras of the DVD you can watch a portion where the whole crew goes through “fear trials” more or less, and Walter again shows no fear. So that flinch really stood out to me. I love this series and I can’t get on the hate bandwagon.
I just want to say I love your channel. You're doing what few people do and that's actually being positive to movies. Other channels I don't want to mention just complain about movies and make them look terrible and full of plot holes/cliches. It's just so nice to have someone who shows the best of movies rather than making them look like the worst thing possible. The only way your channel will be my favorite though is if you did IT but I'd say that's a little unlikely and that's ok. Keep making these amazing videos man
You're free to enjoy this film, no problem. You're not suddenly a bad or dumb person if you do. I can certainly see this film's charms, but I personally don't like it for the same reason I don't like most Alien films, or horror films in general: I am really, _really_ tired of people being made inconceivably stupid in order to drive a plot. I would love for a film to have a story based around intelligent, competent people being unable to deal with a challenge despite how good they are at what they do. The idea that this Alien creature is 'perfect' is made so cheap by the fact that the main reason it succeeds is because you couldn't find humans that were somehow more incapable of performing the task they were told to do, even if you tried. Such things annoy me, but not so much that I couldn't look past that and see how this film could be very enjoyable. The acting is great, the score fantastic, tension building, visuals, set dressing, everything. The whole thing has been thought out perfectly into the minutest of details, but somehow these big, glaring problems with writing are completely missed. It just feels so weird to think that nobody throughout the production of this film raised the question "why would these people do this?" Were they too scared to call anyone out on their shit because they were the writer or director and therefore much more important than them?
1. Finally, someone else who appreciated this film...any more of you out there?? I feel lonely as a fan, 2. It's a small detail, but originality, Shaw's transmission that the crew picks up was supposed to be a prayer, as a form of cry for help/distress signal, but some people involved felt that was a bit 'hokey'/melodramatic and etc, so they last minute switched it to the pop song serving the same purpose, which feels like it was probably the right decision, all things considered
What I understand and appreciate is how they aren’t trying to recreate the magic that was the tension in the first _Alien_ movie. You can’t top that within the same franchise and you can’t just copy it. It’s nice that they’re using the opportunity to expand on the lore, presenting the Xenomorphs in a different way (really demonstrating the speed and power outside of a glimpse and a cut to a different shot away from the action), as well as telling a wider variety of stories and using the Xenomorphs as something that connects to the original franchise as well as easing the audience into the new one
Thank you, me and my Pops honestly really enjoyed this movie when we saw it in cinemas, I mean my Pops *_really_* loved this movie when he saw it. I do like how it was much more like _Alien_ but as a single-hits love letter.
The problem with the sensors and them not wearing a helmet is that they decide that the air is fine simply because it has oxygen in it. They never talk about germs, neither in this movie or Prometheus. It's really annoying to me. You can't decide that air is harmless just based on whether it has oxygen in it. They could catch space AIDS, for all they know.
they got a massive read out of data from the planet telling them about the air and detectable pathogens etc. what did you think all the stuff about "it has better parameters than the place were going" or however it was worded, was for.
Not really. They decide it's fine for two reasons: 1)CHanec of bacteria from a completely different world affecting us is quite... impossible. 2)They made a scan (mentioned in the novel, also used in Prometheus) that showed no hazardous microorganisms. The Goo didn't show up cause it was innert, and because it's a bioweapon.
SpawnRevenge92 that whole theory is ridiculous. If they are living there then they'll have to breathe the air. They wouldn't have gone to land there if they weren't going to live there. There cannot be "Germs everywhere in the air" when nothing is there. It's a movie
There scanners have a basis for what would be deemed safe and hospitable for humans and they wouldn't have landed on the planet if it stated otherwise. For all intents and purposes Planet 4/Paradise was better than hospitable but the bioweapon David unleashed wasn't natural and lies dormant meaning it wouldn't be picked up.
also, can we talk about how apt the names of the droids are? Ash became ash, he was burned by Ripley. Bishop, bi = 2, Bishop was torn in two. David, he fought a giant and he won (because he told Shaw the engineer was on the way, he 'killed' his father {do we honestly expect him to say nice things about Waylend?}) David also fell in love with a woman who was married. or maybe im just over thinking things...
one thing I gotta say I was NOT expecting David to appear. I thought Shaw was under that cloak, then there was David's voice so I was like, okay, so she has David with her? The body under that cloak just looked... Femininely slender I guess? It had me and my father both very very confused. Michael Fassbender is apparently just a real slender man.
With the whole baymax comparison, David is the chipped version of baymax that was used to destroy after hiro found out the professor killed his brother. And Walter is the regular baymax
not gonna lie this is literally my favorite film of all time. is it perfect? no. is it standalone? no. but is it deeply beautiful in all its facets and anecdotes? hell yes. i know im a few years late to the video here but good job! i really enjoyed this mini essay on a film that has a lot to unpack.
Thank you for a great video! I love both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant. It's nice to see some one actually taking the time to appreciate this film. I can't wait until we see the next sequel...prequel...you know what I mean.
I have to disagree, if they are colonist then they shouldnt be so careless while on a planet they know nothing about. I know them being careless needed to happen to jump start the movie but they should of known better, Hell when i go camping i dont touch something if i dont know what it is and i live on this planet
Squalie Bawse personally I think there careless cuz Weyland Corp needs them to be. Those scientist aren't worth more than the David Bot so they need them to start turning each world into a profits. (If that means they die from some super bacteria on the first day, then so be it, Weyland now knows to avoid the planet) this theory feeds on the idea that weyland doesn't give a shit about human life only research and exploration
I have to disagree, Squalie, if you are literate you shouldn't be so careless while on a website you know so well. I know you being careless needed to happen to jump start your comment but you "should have" known better. Hell, when I write comments I don't type something if I don't know how it's spelled, and this is my first language.
Squalie Bawse they are retarded ppl. Anybody wjo actually liked this movie will find the fact that they dun even wear fucking helmets to a alien planet
If you were meant to think it wasn't meant to be a twist, why have the awkward cut instead of just actually showing David defeat Walter? It would have worked better rather than confuse your audience into thinking that the film wants you to think it's trying to trick you.
I think that’s because they don’t seem to care what gender the protagonist is, and really that’s how it should be, it shouldn’t matter. You should be able to change the gender of all characters and the story stay the same
@@tomgamble3875 Mostly shouldn't care. If you're making a movie about pregnancy, i think it should matter what gender the protagonist is. But yeah, any subject or story where the gender isn't a significant part of said subject or story it shouldn't be any more important than any other significant character trait; just another thing that makes you who you are.
Roger Ogue, yeah there are defiantly some cases where it does matter, but I don’t understand why Disney is just pushing for Female justice? Where are the overweight Jedi? There is representation, also they are basically saying that you are what your skin colour is, to are what your genitalia are etc, which goes against every ‘Disney’ movie ever, ‘it doesn’t matter what you look like, it’s who you are that matters!’ And that mass message applies to everybody, not just half the population. There is proper equality.
Roger Ogue to a point yes but even the movie “a quiet place” has a male protagonist in a story centered on pregnancy. i think gender and race shouldnt be restricting factors in a cohesive story. the emotional story for the female lead in this movie works better from a female pov than from a male and as a male, seeing a relationship from another pov wasnt distracting in the slightest, and hopefully future movies understand that a good female lead can offer men insight into how females would “ideally” operate in the same situation as an “ideal” male or any variation if that makes sense
2:06 I got a huge dopamine rush watching the title spell out in true Alien fashion. A L I E N C O V E N A N T / As you wish David” 😏 I really want to see Fassbender in the third movie. I watched Prometheus and Covenant for the first times this year. I really enjoy and like the “Alien Vibes” I get from both movies.
You totally deserve more subscribers. Your channel is awesome and I always look forward to seeing your video come out. It's a nice breath of fresh air compared to all the negativity on the internet lately. Thanks!
I find your theory about David very interessing, specially considering "Prometheus" in greek mithology, or Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (the sub-title of the book is "The Modern Prometheus"); Prometheus in Mithology is punished because he gave humans (that kinda are Prometheus creation) fire and is punished by Zeus, his creator. The "Monster" on Frankenstein is set a part of the World by his creator, and turn on him because of the isolation, even though they share a lot of similarities;
Great video. I like how you suggest Covenant is David's story and that the Prometheus theme heard in Covenant is diegetic. It makes me recall Frankenstein being a framed narrative, one that makes sense more and more towards the end, examined in reverse through the final frame in the narrative, the creature, itself. In Covenant, David is the modern day equivalent to Shelley's creature, and by the third film, or so on, who knows how viewing that sequel will change how we look back on, and view, Prometheus? Great stuff, guys!
It took me a second viewing in the cinema with my dad before I truly enjoyed this move for what it was. While I did miss the Prometheus feel and hated how Shaw was handled, it still felt new despite using some of the usual cliche suspects. Fassbender by far is the saving grace of this new set of films for the series and his Data/Lore performance as both David and Walter in Covenant really had me invested all the way through. And thank you for making this video. I know I'm late to the party saying that but it's nice to see someone talking about the objectively good things about this movie rather than just shitting on the few bad things and not focusing on anything else.
one of the reasons the engineers on the plant don't look a lot like the ones in Prometheus could be because the ones on the ship had been in status for 2000 years, most organisms evolve slightly over 2000 years
"Hmmmmmm that's a lot of xenomorph trial and error" I don't know why I found that so funny but I did; needed to rewind about 10 seconds to stop giggling!
I never saw the point of "Country Roads" especially from Shaw who "chose to believe". For me it made more sense for Shaw to be saying a prayer than a John Denver song, which would have served better as a kind of flight deck sing-a-long that establishes the closeness and familiarity the group have with each other.
YeOldSloth This is why I ignore the reviews and comments, all anyone has to say about movies is how bad they are. Nobody watches movies for entertainment anymore, they watch them to hate on them. While there were a couple of things I weren't fond of in this movie in terms of the writing (all in the second half of the movie) I can say without a doubt that I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and the gore in it is exceptionally rad. I would be totally ok with giving this movie a second viewing and would be equally entertained. Now heres what I didn't like: (Spoilers) Besides Excorcist imagery being a weak spot for me in Horrors I was not cool with the way they handled Walter's fake out death. A sudden stab to the neck and his eyes immediately rolled to the back of his head and his body siezed up. His death was an "in your face you blink you miss it" jumpscare death but that's not the problem, the problem is that he just strolled up 10 minutes later to fight David. That sudden jumpscare should totally have been a proper death. They should have saved that death for someone else and had them stay dead. I must add that this 10 minutes is almost exactly the same as Iron Man. Tony stark gets paralyzed by Obadiah with a tazer and sometime later manages to get into his MkIII suit and fight Obadiah soon after. I love how freakish that two seconds is between David and Walter but if he was alive it didn't need to be so unnecessarily grotesque and should have been spent on someone else. Another thing was how the final alien kill was done. The way Daniels just hopped out of the hangar to make way for the bulldozer was just weird. How did she descend? How did she keep herself perfectly still and not get hit by the bulldozer. IMO it would have been better if instead of having the alien get impaled by the second bulldozer they should've had Daniels sacrifice herself at the end. The first bulldozer knocks the alien out of the hangar, but it climbs over the bulldozer and leaps througj space back towards the Covenant. Daniels will not allow the Xenomorph to harm any more of the ship's occupants and after a running headstart, dives out of the hangar and tackles the alien into the planet's orbit where they both burn up in the atmosphere. Other than those two things, like I said I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and would watch it a second time.
@@D0G5Coolpat11 Say what you want about the story and writing because honestly I've seen better but the movie is worth watching for the kills alone. The gore is awesome and - well - gory! One guy literally vomits a torrent of blood and has a chestburster fall out of his mouth with an intestine or two.
Before the movie came out I thought of the idea David created the aliens by the simple quote from the A.I from Alien (who’s name I can’t remember) “the perfect lifeform”, so another A.I creating the alien made a lot of sense to me
This was a movie I somehow completely forgot I ever watched then I watched this video about it and realized I REALLY need to watch this movie again and actually take it all in. It caused me to view it in a more positive light and really remember the movie. This is why I love this channel
i simply loved this movie wholeheartedly. maybe i’m just easily appeased by any cinema, but i like being this way. i’m a real film junkie who finds pleasure in pretty cinematography and euphoric sound design, and this movie had all of that. plus micheal fassbender. maybe i really love michael fassbender.
As a biology major who had to just do a study on fungi I'd love to mention the really impressive detail of having those spores that release the pathogenic alien into the PMC guys look very similar to species of fungi on earth which ALWAYS reproduce with spores which can cause diseases in humans if they are the correct species and the fact that these white xenomorph things come from a pathogenic fungi facehugger things is just awesome!
One thing I need to add is what I heard about David releasing the goo on the planet is that the planet was actually not engineers. They were an engineer creation hence the the similarity. This is why their city was so primitive and why the docking platform was so advanced. They were happy when David arrived because they thought it was their creators returning. Instead David killed them. This is all even more telling when you remember David in Prometheus saying "In order to create, sometimes one must destroy." He wanted human hosts not the natives.
I feel all icky for cheering David on, I don't know why I find him so compelling. And the fact the Fassy played two droids who have the same flaw for a certain kind of women is just mind boggling. you know it's not Walter, at the end, but when he sighs when he sees Daniels is okay just makes your heart clinch. It also shows how dismissive the humans were of Walter. If they had been paying attention, they would have noticed that David isn't as attentive to the humans needs, he had to be told to grab the face patch. He was slow in replying to questions about the alien. But yeah, good movie. I spent the entire weekend binge watching the series.
For me personally, it got the least scary when people slipped in the puddle of blood. Twice. I mean, sure, it's a bold choice incorporating slapstick into your Alien movie, but it's not for me.
If Fathom Events and/or limited theartical runs count for grounds for stuff to win, it might be interesting to see you tackle _Batman: The Killing Joke_ or _Shin Godzilla_ .
I just saw this film, and I really liked it. David continues to be the most interesting and disturbing character in this series, and I am really looking forward to what comes next for him. Also, like Prometheus, I think this film has a lot of interesting ideas, but this film does a better job of conveying them. Also, I love creatures that have unsettling movement to them, and this film really captures that, especially with the Neomorph. Which I think is one of the most terrifying creatures to come out of this series. It's something that's both familiar yet entirely new. Beautiful design.
Am I the only one who thinks that Ridley Scott is silently laughing with us during the xenomorph egg sequence. David's lines seem to be making a knowing wink to the audience who, for the most part, knows what happens when a human gets near an egg.
I was reminded of a joke about a man walking in the countryside. He finds himself crossing a field that has a bull in it. He sees a farmer leaning over a fence and calls to him "Is that bull safe?" The farmer replied, "Aye, the bull's safe... can't say the same for you though."
I love love love how Cinema Wins gives a thorough, proper warning at the beginning of any videos that explain how to know when to avert your gaze and warn you of what's to come 🙏👍
The scene with the 2 Michael Fassbenders playing the flute really felt like a whole lot of showing off to me... and I'm perfectly okay with that. They used every technique brilliantly and showed how far technology has come
I thought that actually the ending twist was just a really messed up cryosleep dream. In several stories, such as Halo, cryo tends to give the occupant disturbing dreams. She'd been through a really traumatic event, and the twist occurred after the pod closed and started to put her to sleep, so perhaps it was her trying to cope with everything, but still very paranoid.
I really appreciated the warnings you provide for explicitly violent and gory content. For a guy who condescended the idea of 'trigger warnings' in another video, seems like you actually do kinda get what they are for and why they are useful.
Loved the film. The score and cinematography was outstanding. Just sucks that it wasn't exactly a Prometheus sequel but still great. Second favorite film of 2017 after it.
I saw this movie when I was 13, and hands down it is one of the best alien movies in my opinion. the protomorph may be a bit different than the classic xenomorph, but it acts so much more real and life like, just like a wild animal. and the neomorph is awesomely made and just adds on to alien lore
Just a quick thought: David copying Walter's accent wouldn't be that hard, even without switching modules. I mean, the guy studied linguistics for two years basically non-stop and is fluent in ancient languages. I'm sure an accent isn't exactly a challenge then!
I love your videos. Not only do you point out things that are great, you also remind us that movies are meant to be fun and enjoyed, even if some of them have flaws.
I really liked actually seeing the xeno's in the light for once. We've seen like 10 movies where they're in the shadows, and it works great, but im super happy Scott threw us a bone and was like 'here ya go kids!" for me it ramps the fear factor up a bit higher as you see them movie like a cross between a spider and a human. Its pretty cool
yes, and i love how in this movie and in prometheus they show what they were before they were the actual xenomorphs, and how quick they evolve
Well keep waiting since these weren’t Xenomorphs the creatures in this movie were Protomorphs
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It doesn't work since there is no surprise, it takes away the tension.
@@earthcitizen3939 it definitely does work
Something about when an actor plays two different characters who interact is that they have to make sure they sound different so the audience doesn’t loose track of who’s saying what
I rewatched Covenant the other day (it was on TV) and had a thought, consider this: The first Engineer David meets (in Prometheus) rips his head off within minutes, with no explanation. So, when he's approaching a whole planet full of them, is it really that surprising that he decides to wipe them out? He's already shown that he's willing to murder humans (Holloway, with the black goo) who he owes his entire existence to. It's actually 'logical' that his self preservation would kick in, considering that from his point of view he owes the Engineers nothing and they are 'in his way'.
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wait that was a planet of engineers! I thought these dudes just caught a stray from David LOL
What is the real monster? Xenomorph or David? Despite physical appearance, I have to go with David hands down.
Physical monster vs a soulless monster. Does David understand morality, does he have empathy? It's hard to say, its a good question. Both commit evil acts, the xenomorph sheerly on instinct but is David being evil? Or does he not truley comprehend the line between good and evil? Or has he grown above that line?
David has a messiah complex
It's like that question between Dr. Frankenstein and his monster. Which is the real monster? The being, or the creator?
The clearly evil robot obviously. Xenomorphs are beautiful in their biology and they are animals, predators of a level that even challenges a Yatuah warrior(predator).
It involves the question of whether you can grow beyond what you were “made” to be, and what is considered truly “bad” (by human definition). David was made to serve humans, but chooses to grow beyond that to serve what he considers to be a greater purpose. Xenos, according to this film, were created to be the perfect organsim and essentially stay the perfect organism. Is it worse to be something that only knows violence and has no capability or motivation to grow beyond it, or something that has the ability to choose and chose to do what it thinks is right (despite whatever suffering that choice causes)?
Can we just make note of David's movement pattern in the prologue scene with him and Weyland? All the motions are so bloody smooth - too smooth. The rotation of every single joint is too perfect, and really makes him appear... unhuman.
Acted uncanny valley effect at its best.
Fassbender gives a career-best dual-performance in this film. He's legitimately incredible.
If the alien games are canon, then no, xeno's dont need oxygen. terrifying.
i thing that alien do not need oxygen and since i am not satisfied with movies and where are they going let assume that some fans movies fix in the future what fox made bad about alien origin and so on. because it do not give a sense nothing just some sort of genetic things when you expect that biomechanoid just do not pop out after 10 years of some experiments even more new born looks like fully grown miniature of adult when giger clearly designed it like worm due to disgust from worm parasites venturing under your skin and by far aesthetic of the movie is just reflection of old alien and its really feel it due to lack of giger presents. well there in first movie work together one of the most genius brains of that decade and surrealism (psychological reflection in art) and Freud psychology from sixties had very strong influence on cinema. why this is important? well it is, because if you do not have corner stone like Ridley do not have it now, you can not make psychological movie and you put there such a ideas relevant today, like danger of ai. let say that Ridley did it first and really want to create some sort of horror of that danger but it do not have the same dark corners of unconsciousness and all that mysteries. idea is interesting but far less developed then that one before and literally less potent in case of horror. just dark future of terminator and matrix did a lot of exploration in this philosophical matter. alien should forever stayed surreal, freudian and lowecraftian. not religious, mythological and danikenian
Zuu Kuu this is how i think of Ridley from Metroid (being BASED on the Xenos). i know that the only time we see him actually do that is in Prime 1 as a cyborg, but maybe he can even when he's 100% organic.
also your picture's a cutie.
No, they never needed oxygen... that was established in earlier films.
This makes them significantly less believable unfortunately. Oh well
Actually, after thinking some more... it wasn't established outright that they dont need oxygen, all together. Think it just seemed that way because the alien was robust enough to survive outside of the ship for a time but realistically it wasn't out there that long... I guess that kind of makes people (including myself) assume however, there's no reason the alien couldn't have adapted to only need a breath once every few hours, just like a crocodile.
Great review. You’re so correct about those who complained about a lack of Xenos in Prometheus, and now they moan about too much Xeno...you can’t win.
well, I'm fine with Prometheus having no xenomorphs but they marketed it as an alien film that would have them and they had discount Xenos so yea. and they complain about too many xenomorphs because the more you see them the less scary they become
Well, theres no Xenomorphs. These are NEOMORPHS. No wonder they look so terrible.
That and they didn't use practical effects.
Wish they had less David though, lol. Ridley Scott is capitulating to fans, so lets have less David next movie!
@@phousefilms while the neomorphs were entirely cgi, the xenomorphs (or protomorphs if you wanna be picky) are a combination of cgi and practical effects
Its in human nature to always bitch about anything.
Personally, I would have respected the movie a lot more if they kept to their original plan for the prometheus sequels. Similarly to how I feel about the sequel trilogy of Star Wars.
I really did not like Prometheus and I hated most of The last Jedi, but I would have respected their sequels a lot more had they stuck to their original idea rather than caving in to the haters and pandering to angry fans who won't like it either way. As it stands, Covenant is not a good movie, and more important for my argument, it's not a movie I can respect because it's obvious the plot was changed because of the haters.
I actually liked this movie a lot
I did to
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I liked the first half where the question is posed. I didn't care about the alien fighting in the 2nd half.
Agreed. It gave me the best of both worlds with Prometheus’s big unanswered questions/mysteries, and Alien’s horror/gory aspects. On top of that there’s two David Fassbenders, which after his roles in both Prometheus and the newer X-men movies, I was very happy to see them both, as well as how they differ from eachother
And that's the point of this channel, to make people brave enough to admit you liked something that everyone else hates.
I still love Prometheus and Alien: Covenant in 2019. I still hope one day the third movie will come out.
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Same.
My biggest wish in the whole world is for the 3rd movie to take place on a full blown Giger planet. A truly nightmarish world beyond human comprehension.
@@orgywithpigs6 my god that would be AWESOME.
Scott said that with the ending of this saga we would have seen the homeland of the engineers and that all questions would find an answer.
Unfortunately, thanks to all the haters I'm afraid we'll never see any of this.
I really hope we get third movie!
I love Prometheus and Covenant
I liked these two and the rest of the alien serie. Due to the hate this and prometheus gets i doubt well see the third installment.
The android fight reminded me of Anakin vs Obi-wan
Both are capable of predicting the others moves, and have lighting quick reflexes
"If pre-teen blonde girls aren't safe, no one is safe", that was on point, dude!
Plain and simply: Don`t be the black guy, the extremely hot blonde chick, or the horny couple in any horror movie, because then you have a higher chance of survival. I`m not saying that you WILL survive, you just have a HIGHER chance of survival.
@@Lvl1.Sentry I’ll be the background character that is in no way related to the story at all.
Tooru The Mushroom You're dying offscreen then, sorry.
What about the cameraman 😂
@@STARRAMMIE the camera man has plot armor
Something I noticed at @17:36
This movie was produced by a David and a Walter
Oh wow, that´s really weird. I mean yeah, naming characters after yourself is awesome and all that...
But a soulless monster who kills everyone? :D
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@@purplexninjamom Actually those guys are contractually obliged to be credited as producers on the Alien films for some obscure reason even though neither have worked on one since about Alien 3. I recall Ridley Scott mentioning it in an interview and gave the impression he used there names for the androids as a jib at them [similar to deliberately contradicting AVP due to his dislike of those films].
You DIDN'T say anything at all about the "I'll do the fingering" quote?
Not even for laughs? :p
CinemaSIns did, rotten bastards they are
Finally, a positive review of this film. I will never say that those who didn't like this film don't have valid complaints, but I find that most of those negative reviews are based on the viewer's personal expectations for the movie and the franchise as a whole. In my opinion, this was an excellent film with a few flaws that some people can't seem to get past. If they want to get hung up on those issues, that's fine, but I honestly can't wait for the next installment!
I think this is easily the best of the series since Aliens. Really, the only flaw I can find is that the alien's life cycle seems drastically accelerated so as to bring the Xenomorph into the scene in time to menace the remaining characters. I love the David/Walter dynamic and that scene of aliens attacking people in a field, at night, lit by firelight...god, that was awesome. I hope Scott gets to finish this trilogy.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks There are a lot more problems than just that. Before I go on though let me preface, I'm not looking to start an argument, and if you like this film that is great. So, you have a huge cast of characters in this film, which doesn't allow us to get invested in them at all. You know they're all basically just fodder. The first Alien had a tight cast, and we got to know them at least a bit before they died. Plus, everyone in here all seem to act like morons. Even in a breathable atmosphere, you don't go out into an alien environment without some kind of protection, since you have no idea what pathogens could be lurking. We knew this when the movie came out, hell we even vaccinate people on our own planet when they just cross the ocean, but they don't even bother here. One guy even puts his face down to a plant-thing that obviously shot something out of itself. Also the fact that no one really questions David on his story, he leads them through a forest of Engineer corpses, and even after the one guy has explicit proof that he's up to no good, he still takes David at his word and goes right up to an alien egg and puts his FACE near it, rather than shooting David when he had the chance. There is just a host of issues with the film, in my opinion.
look at marvel movies : brain dead plots,nobody uses suits in space,braindead heroes etc but nobody cries abot thoose idiotic movies
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Dear god no, this film is an abortion. It completely retcons everything and forces characters to engage in stupidity in order for the plot to happen. Unlike in Prometheus where human error spurred some of the events, in Covenant, EVERYTHING is literally solely the result of their incompetence, lack of foresight or precautions, and their naivety. Covenant spits in the face of people who liked Alien and Aliens in order to chase after David who is successful not because of his own brilliance but because of the creators poor writing ability.
I honestly can't think of another director that creates such dreadfully beautiful landscape shots. Especially from space down to a planet. Something about the way he composes the shots and designs the worlds, they are beautiful, stark, terrifying, mysterious, draw you in, all at once.
Ridley Scott really has the best aesthetic eye of all directors .. he understands that its all about the atmosphere, the mood, the sense of awe ...
He is good with visuals, but the story and characters lack.
I gotta say what we're all thinking:
Michael Fassbender is always a win.
Only one ding? Give that man a solid 10 *dings* at least!
Yep! ❤️
Damn good stuff
4 movies I absolutely NEED you to win:
1. Treasure Planet
2. How to Train Your Dragon 2
3. Prince of Egypt
4. Kubo and the Two Strings
Tack the Road to El Dorado on there and we're good!
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Katie Larson the Percy Jackson and the Olympians series
Kubo was an absolute treat to watch and I'd love to see a Cinema Wins done for it. Highly recommend.
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YES! PLEASE do How To Train Your Dragon 2 and The Prince Of Egypt sometime soon, CinemaWins!!!
Explosion? Dead dude? Alien?...Meh.
The soundtrack is indeed incredible, it's so stressful and creepy, I love it. Just don't listen to it while walking down your hallway in the dark, I learned that the hard way. I just bumped into my dog, not a neomorph, definitely not a neomorph.
I think Covenant is my favourite movie of 2017 by far.
you know why the soundtrack is good? THEY RIPPED IT FROM ALIEN!
Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon how can a franchise rip itself off? Is the Force Awakens soundtrack ripping off the other Star Wars films because it uses the same themes? Don't be absurd. Covenant is a phenomenal and unique soundtrack, Jed Kurzel is a genius, the creepy backward flute and bell effects are what make it so powerful and that has never been heard in any Alien soundtrack before.
I love the soundtrack for this film. Better than Prometheus. And that’s SAYING something!
Both soundtracks are top-notch, pretty close to the original concept too, with nice contemporary touch. The sound of Prometheus is a little more wild and "techy", Covenant's opening theme is heart melting :D
why did you say your.. now he knows you walk down his hall way at night.
David didn't create *the* Xenomorph. He *RE*created it, within his means, ie. not an exactly identical species compared to the "real" Xenomorphs. The reasons:
- The ancient Engineer ruins from Prometheus feature prominent Xenomorph murals in the in-universe year 2093
- The Space Jockey ship was carrying Xenomorph eggs, which had been there for most likely hundreds of years. David created the Protomorph in the in-universe year 2104. The Space Jockey was discovered in the in-universe year 2122, just 18 years after Alien Covenant.
So even if somehow the Space Jockey from Alien was carrying eggs created by David, the timelines don't match - the Engineer murals were discovered in 2093. 11 years before David created the egg in Covenant.
holy shit a sane alien fan
THANK YOU for painting this out. This is the Main reason why people hate on this film. They don't think.
I don't mind the idea of David making his own version, but to have him responsible for the real Xeno is crap. The prequels are too much about the androids, that's one of the problems.
Good catch!
This is even dumber than what the movie showed
I'm probably in the minority but I loved Prometheus. This was not as good. I would rather have watched Shaw's journey to this planet or the engineer's home planet.
I liked Prometheus alot
Prometheus may be my favourite film i hate all the hate it receives online
Prometheus was solid as a separate story. I kind of feel it's lessened by directly connecting it to Alien before that story arc was really complete. Though as David's story it works. I wanted to see Shaw's story. Such a sad ending for her though. It's basically David in the Thanos role now.
@@3Rayfire yeah shaw was bad ass like a new Ripley. The abortion scene was so fucking intense.
Absolutely agree. I loved Prometheus. It took the franchise in a new direction with a new feel and still managed to have some amazingly horrifying and intense sequences.
good vid but I think you missed one really cool important part. when David takes Walter's place after they defeat the xenomorph and are going back up to the main ship a gust of wind blows David's hood up. when we first see david in the film he is shown as a hooded figure. that was really the first example of foreshadowing before the part when he tells Daniels its his duty.
Poppy M wasn't exactly a twist. They wanted you to know David would take Walters place. That's why it was made so obvious, not poor writing, it was intentional writing.
"You blow, I'll do the fingering."
HOW IS THAT NOT A WIN?!?!?!?!?
cause its a sin?
Turquoise Cheetah id rather not get fucked by my clone
So what is that, exactly? Is it homosexuality or incest if it's between robots? The only thing that I can truly call it is robosexuality . . . but honestly it's also rather incesto-gay as well.
Agreed. Also continuing the franchise's tradition of homosexual undertones to make a portion of the audience uncomfortable or misdirect them.
Because it took the audience out of boredom and made us laugh
Please do "The Grey". It is a very underrated, but beautiful movie in its overall message.
Something I think people forget during the second finale is that David flinches when the alien strikes the camera. All throughout the movie we’ve seen Walter show basically no emotion so that’s another way you could’ve seen the Walter/David thing going. In the Extras of the DVD you can watch a portion where the whole crew goes through “fear trials” more or less, and Walter again shows no fear. So that flinch really stood out to me. I love this series and I can’t get on the hate bandwagon.
I just want to say I love your channel. You're doing what few people do and that's actually being positive to movies. Other channels I don't want to mention just complain about movies and make them look terrible and full of plot holes/cliches. It's just so nice to have someone who shows the best of movies rather than making them look like the worst thing possible. The only way your channel will be my favorite though is if you did IT but I'd say that's a little unlikely and that's ok. Keep making these amazing videos man
I want him to do everything good about the Predator I love that movie so much it was a interesting take
IT is a good movie but IT 2 kinda ruined it for me
Oh thank god, someone else actually liked this movie
Max Fontaine my thoughts exactly
Max Fontaine Yeah, I know right. I thought I was the only one
You live on a planet with seven BILLION people living on it. You're not gonna be the only one.
I actually liked Alien: covenant. It was awesome.
You're free to enjoy this film, no problem. You're not suddenly a bad or dumb person if you do. I can certainly see this film's charms, but I personally don't like it for the same reason I don't like most Alien films, or horror films in general: I am really, _really_ tired of people being made inconceivably stupid in order to drive a plot. I would love for a film to have a story based around intelligent, competent people being unable to deal with a challenge despite how good they are at what they do. The idea that this Alien creature is 'perfect' is made so cheap by the fact that the main reason it succeeds is because you couldn't find humans that were somehow more incapable of performing the task they were told to do, even if you tried.
Such things annoy me, but not so much that I couldn't look past that and see how this film could be very enjoyable. The acting is great, the score fantastic, tension building, visuals, set dressing, everything. The whole thing has been thought out perfectly into the minutest of details, but somehow these big, glaring problems with writing are completely missed. It just feels so weird to think that nobody throughout the production of this film raised the question "why would these people do this?" Were they too scared to call anyone out on their shit because they were the writer or director and therefore much more important than them?
1. Finally, someone else who appreciated this film...any more of you out there?? I feel lonely as a fan, 2. It's a small detail, but originality, Shaw's transmission that the crew picks up was supposed to be a prayer, as a form of cry for help/distress signal, but some people involved felt that was a bit 'hokey'/melodramatic and etc, so they last minute switched it to the pop song serving the same purpose, which feels like it was probably the right decision, all things considered
What I understand and appreciate is how they aren’t trying to recreate the magic that was the tension in the first _Alien_ movie. You can’t top that within the same franchise and you can’t just copy it. It’s nice that they’re using the opportunity to expand on the lore, presenting the Xenomorphs in a different way (really demonstrating the speed and power outside of a glimpse and a cut to a different shot away from the action), as well as telling a wider variety of stories and using the Xenomorphs as something that connects to the original franchise as well as easing the audience into the new one
3:08 loved the 127 Hours reference
Thank you, me and my Pops honestly really enjoyed this movie when we saw it in cinemas, I mean my Pops *_really_* loved this movie when he saw it. I do like how it was much more like _Alien_ but as a single-hits love letter.
The problem with the sensors and them not wearing a helmet is that they decide that the air is fine simply because it has oxygen in it. They never talk about germs, neither in this movie or Prometheus.
It's really annoying to me. You can't decide that air is harmless just based on whether it has oxygen in it.
They could catch space AIDS, for all they know.
they got a massive read out of data from the planet telling them about the air and detectable pathogens etc. what did you think all the stuff about "it has better parameters than the place were going" or however it was worded, was for.
Not really. They decide it's fine for two reasons:
1)CHanec of bacteria from a completely different world affecting us is quite... impossible.
2)They made a scan (mentioned in the novel, also used in Prometheus) that showed no hazardous microorganisms. The Goo didn't show up cause it was innert, and because it's a bioweapon.
Lady's and gents this is a germaphobe
SpawnRevenge92 that whole theory is ridiculous. If they are living there then they'll have to breathe the air. They wouldn't have gone to land there if they weren't going to live there. There cannot be "Germs everywhere in the air" when nothing is there. It's a movie
There scanners have a basis for what would be deemed safe and hospitable for humans and they wouldn't have landed on the planet if it stated otherwise. For all intents and purposes Planet 4/Paradise was better than hospitable but the bioweapon David unleashed wasn't natural and lies dormant meaning it wouldn't be picked up.
The backburster scene is horror and comedy rolled in one.
Comedy... how? Not trying to sound snotty, just quite honestly confused.
The part when the girl slips on the blood gave me a chuckle.
owlstag awn I didn't even see any horror in it. I was laughing every second of it, and the movie only got more hilarious after that.
Fuck yeah it is 😂😂😂😂
owlstag awn When I was watching the movie, I replayed that fail too many times 🤣
I can’t be the only one who watches these movies just for David right? Idk why but I’m so interested in him
also, can we talk about how apt the names of the droids are? Ash became ash, he was burned by Ripley. Bishop, bi = 2, Bishop was torn in two. David, he fought a giant and he won (because he told Shaw the engineer was on the way, he 'killed' his father {do we honestly expect him to say nice things about Waylend?}) David also fell in love with a woman who was married. or maybe im just over thinking things...
one thing I gotta say I was NOT expecting David to appear. I thought Shaw was under that cloak, then there was David's voice so I was like, okay, so she has David with her? The body under that cloak just looked... Femininely slender I guess? It had me and my father both very very confused. Michael Fassbender is apparently just a real slender man.
Your warning at the beginning pretty much sums up why I love this movie. The gore is top-notch. This movie doesn't mess around. Love it.
Walter's reactions are a bit more Baymax than 'Meh', to me. He's an 'Oh no' kind of a guy.
69th like. You're welcome
@@hydrahunter4629 Nice.
@@FalloutJack why, thank you
With the whole baymax comparison, David is the chipped version of baymax that was used to destroy after hiro found out the professor killed his brother. And Walter is the regular baymax
@@ef-19tornado20 That... On this day, I do believe you win an internet. Good work!
not gonna lie this is literally my favorite film of all time. is it perfect? no. is it standalone? no. but is it deeply beautiful in all its facets and anecdotes? hell yes. i know im a few years late to the video here but good job! i really enjoyed this mini essay on a film that has a lot to unpack.
just letting u know there is still people reading comments xD and yeah I also liked the movie
"you seek you creaTOR, I am looking at mine" I love how he pronounces creator lol
Thank you for a great video! I love both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant. It's nice to see some one actually taking the time to appreciate this film. I can't wait until we see the next sequel...prequel...you know what I mean.
I have to disagree, if they are colonist then they shouldnt be so careless while on a planet they know nothing about. I know them being careless needed to happen to jump start the movie but they should of known better, Hell when i go camping i dont touch something if i dont know what it is and i live on this planet
Squalie Bawse personally I think there careless cuz Weyland Corp needs them to be. Those scientist aren't worth more than the David Bot so they need them to start turning each world into a profits. (If that means they die from some super bacteria on the first day, then so be it, Weyland now knows to avoid the planet) this theory feeds on the idea that weyland doesn't give a shit about human life only research and exploration
They brought tons of guns for safety 😀
I have to disagree, Squalie, if you are literate you shouldn't be so careless while on a website you know so well. I know you being careless needed to happen to jump start your comment but you "should have" known better. Hell, when I write comments I don't type something if I don't know how it's spelled, and this is my first language.
Squalie Bawse they are retarded ppl. Anybody wjo actually liked this movie will find the fact that they dun even wear fucking helmets to a alien planet
2nd3rd1st Great job attacking his spelling in an extremely disrespectful way without acknowledging the meat of his comment, I guess?
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I actually just watched EGA Prometheus lmao. Also you should do a video on How to train your dragon 2
I'm surprised "I'll do the fingering" didn't get an *accurate terminology* win
That one was lame
I have the biggest appreciation for line, "They don't know they're in an Alien movie!"
If you were meant to think it wasn't meant to be a twist, why have the awkward cut instead of just actually showing David defeat Walter?
It would have worked better rather than confuse your audience into thinking that the film wants you to think it's trying to trick you.
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Why do alien movies just have the best female protagonist?I feel like they are one of the only ones that do it right.
I think that’s because they don’t seem to care what gender the protagonist is, and really that’s how it should be, it shouldn’t matter. You should be able to change the gender of all characters and the story stay the same
@@tomgamble3875 Mostly shouldn't care. If you're making a movie about pregnancy, i think it should matter what gender the protagonist is. But yeah, any subject or story where the gender isn't a significant part of said subject or story it shouldn't be any more important than any other significant character trait; just another thing that makes you who you are.
Roger Ogue, yeah there are defiantly some cases where it does matter, but I don’t understand why Disney is just pushing for Female justice? Where are the overweight Jedi? There is representation, also they are basically saying that you are what your skin colour is, to are what your genitalia are etc, which goes against every ‘Disney’ movie ever, ‘it doesn’t matter what you look like, it’s who you are that matters!’ And that mass message applies to everybody, not just half the population. There is proper equality.
@@tomgamble3875 I don't know why you bring up Disney, and i can't really tell what you're on about in general.
Roger Ogue to a point yes but even the movie “a quiet place” has a male protagonist in a story centered on pregnancy. i think gender and race shouldnt be restricting factors in a cohesive story. the emotional story for the female lead in this movie works better from a female pov than from a male and as a male, seeing a relationship from another pov wasnt distracting in the slightest, and hopefully future movies understand that a good female lead can offer men insight into how females would “ideally” operate in the same situation as an “ideal” male or any variation if that makes sense
When he says waiting for ''MuThuR'' that is exactly what he means. He has been waiting for The Ship to bring him his 2000 potential test incubators.
2:06 I got a huge dopamine rush watching the title spell out in true Alien fashion. A L I E N
C O V E N A N T / As you wish David” 😏 I really want to see Fassbender in the third movie. I watched Prometheus and Covenant for the first times this year. I really enjoy and like the “Alien Vibes” I get from both movies.
oh dont mind me just munching on a burger
edit: i regret many things
Restarting what kind of burger
You totally deserve more subscribers. Your channel is awesome and I always look forward to seeing your video come out.
It's a nice breath of fresh air compared to all the negativity on the internet lately.
Thanks!
except he gives undeserved positivity and is blatantly stupid and wrong
I find your theory about David very interessing, specially considering "Prometheus" in greek mithology, or Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (the sub-title of the book is "The Modern Prometheus");
Prometheus in Mithology is punished because he gave humans (that kinda are Prometheus creation) fire and is punished by Zeus, his creator. The "Monster" on Frankenstein is set a part of the World by his creator, and turn on him because of the isolation, even though they share a lot of similarities;
I suspected but wasn’t totally sure about the Walter-David twist so the final scene sent a chill down my spine.
Great video. I like how you suggest Covenant is David's story and that the Prometheus theme heard in Covenant is diegetic. It makes me recall Frankenstein being a framed narrative, one that makes sense more and more towards the end, examined in reverse through the final frame in the narrative, the creature, itself. In Covenant, David is the modern day equivalent to Shelley's creature, and by the third film, or so on, who knows how viewing that sequel will change how we look back on, and view, Prometheus? Great stuff, guys!
It took me a second viewing in the cinema with my dad before I truly enjoyed this move for what it was. While I did miss the Prometheus feel and hated how Shaw was handled, it still felt new despite using some of the usual cliche suspects. Fassbender by far is the saving grace of this new set of films for the series and his Data/Lore performance as both David and Walter in Covenant really had me invested all the way through. And thank you for making this video. I know I'm late to the party saying that but it's nice to see someone talking about the objectively good things about this movie rather than just shitting on the few bad things and not focusing on anything else.
one of the reasons the engineers on the plant don't look a lot like the ones in Prometheus could be because the ones on the ship had been in status for 2000 years, most organisms evolve slightly over 2000 years
Love it when you tackle hard to win movies, and cult movies best
Poppy M they never said they thought this was a cult movie, they just said that they love it when CinemaWins does a video on them.
Poppy M this is a hard to win movie
Dead Saint he never said it wasn't a cult movie either, dumbass
This review makes me love the movie even more.
"Hmmmmmm that's a lot of xenomorph trial and error"
I don't know why I found that so funny but I did; needed to rewind about 10 seconds to stop giggling!
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I most certainly agree
3:12 me neither, man. I mean that's only like 127 hours.... OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
I actually enjoyed Alien: Covenant. *Sits down in a chair and waits*
*Sits down and waits as well*
Tyson Chiswell hell pretty much
Or the black goos actual meaning, Liquid Chaos.
WWWWHHHHHAAAAAATTTT YOU HAVE AN OPINION THAT DIFFERS TO MINE!?!?!?! HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!?!?!?!?!?!!111
Same
*waits*
I never saw the point of "Country Roads" especially from Shaw who "chose to believe".
For me it made more sense for Shaw to be saying a prayer than a John Denver song, which would have served better as a kind of flight deck sing-a-long that establishes the closeness and familiarity the group have with each other.
I loved David in this and the music was seriously creepy. Even just hearing a little tune of it and it sends a shiver down my spine
At last, someone not complaining about how "bad" the movie was.
YeOldSloth This is why I ignore the reviews and comments, all anyone has to say about movies is how bad they are. Nobody watches movies for entertainment anymore, they watch them to hate on them.
While there were a couple of things I weren't fond of in this movie in terms of the writing (all in the second half of the movie) I can say without a doubt that I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and the gore in it is exceptionally rad. I would be totally ok with giving this movie a second viewing and would be equally entertained.
Now heres what I didn't like: (Spoilers) Besides Excorcist imagery being a weak spot for me in Horrors I was not cool with the way they handled Walter's fake out death. A sudden stab to the neck and his eyes immediately rolled to the back of his head and his body siezed up. His death was an "in your face you blink you miss it" jumpscare death but that's not the problem, the problem is that he just strolled up 10 minutes later to fight David. That sudden jumpscare should totally have been a proper death. They should have saved that death for someone else and had them stay dead. I must add that this 10 minutes is almost exactly the same as Iron Man. Tony stark gets paralyzed by Obadiah with a tazer and sometime later manages to get into his MkIII suit and fight Obadiah soon after. I love how freakish that two seconds is between David and Walter but if he was alive it didn't need to be so unnecessarily grotesque and should have been spent on someone else.
Another thing was how the final alien kill was done. The way Daniels just hopped out of the hangar to make way for the bulldozer was just weird. How did she descend? How did she keep herself perfectly still and not get hit by the bulldozer. IMO it would have been better if instead of having the alien get impaled by the second bulldozer they should've had Daniels sacrifice herself at the end. The first bulldozer knocks the alien out of the hangar, but it climbs over the bulldozer and leaps througj space back towards the Covenant. Daniels will not allow the Xenomorph to harm any more of the ship's occupants and after a running headstart, dives out of the hangar and tackles the alien into the planet's orbit where they both burn up in the atmosphere.
Other than those two things, like I said I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and would watch it a second time.
@@LAZYNOOB-jf1oq when you said people watch movies to hate them that is so true!!!!!
But this movie was bad lol
@@D0G5Coolpat11 Say what you want about the story and writing because honestly I've seen better but the movie is worth watching for the kills alone. The gore is awesome and - well - gory! One guy literally vomits a torrent of blood and has a chestburster fall out of his mouth with an intestine or two.
I didn't say the gore/kills were bad, in fact thats a part I liked about the movie
by the way i like how the protomorph just had normal spit
not just acid acid acid acid
that comes later
I love your videos so much. I enjoy every single one even if the movie wasn't really good for me.
You really make me smile. Thank you.
Before the movie came out I thought of the idea David created the aliens by the simple quote from the A.I from Alien (who’s name I can’t remember) “the perfect lifeform”, so another A.I creating the alien made a lot of sense to me
This was a movie I somehow completely forgot I ever watched then I watched this video about it and realized I REALLY need to watch this movie again and actually take it all in. It caused me to view it in a more positive light and really remember the movie. This is why I love this channel
Please do Interstellar
i simply loved this movie wholeheartedly. maybe i’m just easily appeased by any cinema, but i like being this way. i’m a real film junkie who finds pleasure in pretty cinematography and euphoric sound design, and this movie had all of that. plus micheal fassbender. maybe i really love michael fassbender.
You are so good at what you do. I agree with you a to z. Well done!
As a biology major who had to just do a study on fungi I'd love to mention the really impressive detail of having those spores that release the pathogenic alien into the PMC guys look very similar to species of fungi on earth which ALWAYS reproduce with spores which can cause diseases in humans if they are the correct species and the fact that these white xenomorph things come from a pathogenic fungi facehugger things is just awesome!
One thing I need to add is what I heard about David releasing the goo on the planet is that the planet was actually not engineers. They were an engineer creation hence the the similarity. This is why their city was so primitive and why the docking platform was so advanced. They were happy when David arrived because they thought it was their creators returning. Instead David killed them. This is all even more telling when you remember David in Prometheus saying "In order to create, sometimes one must destroy." He wanted human hosts not the natives.
I wanted it to be a more true sequel to Prometheus, but it still delivered a great Alien film. Not to mention the amazing score.
I feel all icky for cheering David on, I don't know why I find him so compelling. And the fact the Fassy played two droids who have the same flaw for a certain kind of women is just mind boggling. you know it's not Walter, at the end, but when he sighs when he sees Daniels is okay just makes your heart clinch. It also shows how dismissive the humans were of Walter. If they had been paying attention, they would have noticed that David isn't as attentive to the humans needs, he had to be told to grab the face patch. He was slow in replying to questions about the alien. But yeah, good movie. I spent the entire weekend binge watching the series.
It got less scary when gore came. I know it's not real and the guy with the back pain is just spazzing. Also fingering phrasing
Zenny LZ u know was not real? Oooook lol, I guess was a great revealing lol
Santiago Rodriguez Guillen English my guy, English
The blood is not real???
NO FUCKING SHIT SHERLOCK!
Zenny LZ Are we still doing “phrasing”? 😏
For me personally, it got the least scary when people slipped in the puddle of blood. Twice. I mean, sure, it's a bold choice incorporating slapstick into your Alien movie, but it's not for me.
The drawings in David’s home, the engineer and the alien life. Sooooo cool.
The audiobook of this movie gives so much more detail.
If Fathom Events and/or limited theartical runs count for grounds for stuff to win, it might be interesting to see you tackle _Batman: The Killing Joke_ or _Shin Godzilla_ .
If he reviewed Shin Godzilla, my day would be made.
I just saw this film, and I really liked it. David continues to be the most interesting and disturbing character in this series, and I am really looking forward to what comes next for him. Also, like Prometheus, I think this film has a lot of interesting ideas, but this film does a better job of conveying them. Also, I love creatures that have unsettling movement to them, and this film really captures that, especially with the Neomorph. Which I think is one of the most terrifying creatures to come out of this series. It's something that's both familiar yet entirely new. Beautiful design.
Am I the only one who thinks that Ridley Scott is silently laughing with us during the xenomorph egg sequence. David's lines seem to be making a knowing wink to the audience who, for the most part, knows what happens when a human gets near an egg.
I was reminded of a joke about a man walking in the countryside. He finds himself crossing a field that has a bull in it. He sees a farmer leaning over a fence and calls to him "Is that bull safe?" The farmer replied, "Aye, the bull's safe... can't say the same for you though."
yes man and on the top you will not got sexually transmitted infection from that small tentacle :) just you give born
I love love love how Cinema Wins gives a thorough, proper warning at the beginning of any videos that explain how to know when to avert your gaze and warn you of what's to come 🙏👍
The scene with the 2 Michael Fassbenders playing the flute really felt like a whole lot of showing off to me... and I'm perfectly okay with that. They used every technique brilliantly and showed how far technology has come
I thought that actually the ending twist was just a really messed up cryosleep dream. In several stories, such as Halo, cryo tends to give the occupant disturbing dreams. She'd been through a really traumatic event, and the twist occurred after the pod closed and started to put her to sleep, so perhaps it was her trying to cope with everything, but still very paranoid.
ok i know i have said this before on the last 2 videos and it got to the top comment but pls,
DO Megamind
You'll be missed man
You're calling The Half-Blood Prince lighthearted?
Revenge Stalker oh so that is what is next huh.
yeah, I'm actually very happy that I managed to get the preview shot right, since the only time I managed to do that was with Edge of Tomorrow. :D
it does spend an ass time of movie time on teen romance though
That's half-blood prince? Did I miss Order of the Phoenix?
GamingCherries just yes to everything
I really appreciated the warnings you provide for explicitly violent and gory content. For a guy who condescended the idea of 'trigger warnings' in another video, seems like you actually do kinda get what they are for and why they are useful.
Loved the film. The score and cinematography was outstanding. Just sucks that it wasn't exactly a Prometheus sequel but still great. Second favorite film of 2017 after it.
Cowboys on space missions, that sounds familiar See you space cowboy!
"oh cool she just went for a swi....ooh"
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This film, like Prometheus and Blade Runner, are GENIUS pieces of cinema unappreciated in their time.
MrMoorkey funnily enough, these are all Ridley Scott films
Great video! I'm glad you dug deep into the David stuff because that was by far my favorite part of the film.
I love this channel. So much positivity and you teach a lot about appreciating the little things in movies. Thank you so much!
Omg, this is the movie my mom accidently made me watch when i was 11 😊 the first "warning sign" scene gave me big ass flashbacks
I saw this movie when I was 13, and hands down it is one of the best alien movies in my opinion. the protomorph may be a bit different than the classic xenomorph, but it acts so much more real and life like, just like a wild animal. and the neomorph is awesomely made and just adds on to alien lore
Please do Skull Island
Just a quick thought: David copying Walter's accent wouldn't be that hard, even without switching modules. I mean, the guy studied linguistics for two years basically non-stop and is fluent in ancient languages. I'm sure an accent isn't exactly a challenge then!
I love your videos. Not only do you point out things that are great, you also remind us that movies are meant to be fun and enjoyed, even if some of them have flaws.