Warrior Spirit Movers well i hated this movie (dont really know why) and his death didnt made me ANYTHING ( and i always cry during movie death) pls help me ;(
I am a comic book reader since I learned to read pretty much, and there is only a few movies I consider good adaptations, and truly deserves the respect of the community, one of those are Logan, it makes me cry of happiness and sadness watching it.
Fun fact going along with Laura's spanish montage, apparently Jackman went to apologise to Dafne's mother for swearing at Dafne. Dafne's mother replied with "don't worry, she just called you a f****** c***"
@Wb2006xxProduction In case you still care: "Why do you want me to talk to you if you're always insulting me, yelling at me, if you try to leave me behind? You want me to open my mouth?" Makes it kinda funny that he goes "Shut up!" Also, apparently there were other bits written but she was allowed to improvise.
@@brainrich1358 damn right it is. Black Panther, and no disrespect to the late Chadwick, wasn't a great film. People overhype it a bit. Logan? Fucking amazing.
@@brainrich1358 damn right it is. Black Panther, and no disrespect to the late Chadwick, wasn't a great film. People overhype it a bit. Logan? Fucking amazing.
As someone who's nan had dementia Charles scene of "I always remember you Logan it's just sometimes I don't recognise you" that scene is so sad and I cried cause its so realistic
I feel that. Before he passed, my grandfather had really bad dementia. Late in his life he didn’t know the names of his grandchildren and towards the end he didn’t know he had any grandchildren at all. It was very saddening.
My nan was the same, when it was at is peak we would go visit her and she would perk up because she knew she was supossed to know us even if she couldn't place us.. It's one of my biggest regrets, I only knew her with dementia so she never really knew me and at the time I recented her for it..
This ain’t only a movie about superheroes and their ending. Sir Patrick perfectly portrays how heartbreaking aging truly is, and because he played the Professor for so long, we feel that.
Laura was older and a lot more sexualized in the comics. Eliminating the suggestive elements and casting Dafne Keen was a bold move on Fox’s part, and it works beautifully.
But she didn't originate from the comics to begin with. Before that, she debuted in the animated show "X-Men: Evolution," where she was this age. So it wasn't Fox's idea.
You’re referencing a comic that really wasn’t very good or important or added much to her character, which originated from the X-Men Evolution (where there was zero sexual subtext and the same odd “parental” bond was the focus). So they didn’t change her up, they just went back to the definitive roots. I do like the changed elements of her being Mexican and her surrogate mothers’ character. I don’t accept the comic’s take on this-as I don’t accept pretty much any chnage the comics tried to add- where her mother is a scientist forced to be impregnated as punishmen for showing empathy, they were trying for an edgy tale but the result is really just an example of fiction writer sexism, female exploitation used for cheap drama. The surrogate mother in this movie was a way more believable, respectable character.
@@joedrayton3598 he has felt love before, but since he lost the person he loved most (multiple times btw) he neglected the feeling of love to not feel the pain that comes with it, he's able to die in peace and finally the person he most cares about lives
I think he meant family.. because this was the only time he actually felt what real family was like plus charles was literally begging him to get married. So ig he was talking about so this is how family feels.
I know this is more than a year old but i've been watching the vids and had to comment, at 8:53 when x-24 murders xavier, there's one thing that for me personally is the best by far, and is that when logan sees x-24 going down the stairs and realizes that he probably killed xavier, the FIRST thing he says when he gets to him is "it wasn't me" as in desperation to let his only friend left know that he didn't betray him. That gives me chills everytime i remember it.
Let's be honest Xavier is the closest thing to a father Logan ever had. Imagine thinking your son killed you without an ounce of love. And the confusion especially after such a sweet sentence.
@@heydoeradio7298 Logan was nearly 200 years old in this movie. Charles was 90, Why would Logan think of Charles as his father? Charles is more like Logan's great grand son.
@@NishantSoniTV A father isn't measured in years, boy. If he thought of him in that way he had all the reasons. He was his mentor and a wise man that helped him a lot through his life, he represented a senior to him for many aspects.
My friend wasn't paying attention when I first saw the movie in theaters and he thought Wolverine actually killed Charles and he literally screamed "what the fuck!!!" while the whole theater was silent.
you missed the part right after logan meets is clone and instead of following him and rescuing laura, he goes upstairs to check on Charles, like is worst fear coming to life.
@@sirsneakybeaky It’s a confusing timeline, but I’m pretty sure the events of last stand were wiped away when Logan fixes everything in days of future past. So Charles never actually transferred his consciousness. Logan did see Charles die twice though, cuz he still remembers everything that happened in last stand.
@@jackbennett8090 Yeah Logan did rewrite the timeline in the main X-men movies. But the Logan movie is in another alternate timeline where X-men 2 and 3 never happened at all, it was just the fight at the statue of liberty and then nearly 25 years after that, the events of Logan happen. I hope that cleared everything up.
Have you ever noticed that every time laura attacks she yells ,screams and over exaggerates noises like they do in the comic books?? Because her nurse let her read all those X-men comic books so now she thinks that when fighting you have to actually yell and do noises like that..
I love how X-24 has the same kind of haircut as Sabertooth in Origins, it really makes you think Logan would have turned out just like his brother if he had stayed with the Weapon X program under Stryker.
lol it was lazy, i felt the opposite. That "schling" got tiring fast and it hurts hearing it more than once in a row, go to 19:20. every single strike slow fast on flesh on metal with momentum or without they all made that same metalic high pitched sound. Heck even the shoe laura shoves into some dudes neck makes the same sound as the adamantium claws.
The absolute saddest scene for me is when Professor X starts raving about Taco Bell. He’s so far gone he can’t tell what’s important, and where his information is coming from. To see one of the most intelligent and fatherly figures in movie history, spouting off an ad he probably saw on TV at one point is just sad. It’s like watching a respected loved one crap themselves
One of my largest creep out thing is actually stuff like when a character breaks mentally and starts raving or looks around and starts calling for their mother. That kind of stuff messes with me because i mean I like knowing who i am and having control over my thoughts so the idea of losing all my mental functions is the worst for me.
He did it because even though he wasnt a fan, *it was that awesome he had to make the sequence.* It just goes to show how well made this film is, where someone who isnt a fan of a certain aspect of a movie *literally makes a rip-ya-face-off montage.*
I agree. It was hilarious how she beat up Logan....and got away with it all while bellowing at him in Spanish. And apparently that was HER idea too. She asked the director if she could improv that scene and he liked her version so much he kept it. lol
@@macree01 Hugh Jackman stated himself that when Dafne Keen punched him and he went back home he had bruises on his arm and movie wise Laura could kill him if she wanted, I love Logan but he's to old to fight someone like Laura, he's weaker and slower than he was before I'd be surprised if he even hit her. Laura wins that fight
@@macree01 First off all dude seriously? 200 years of fighting experience when the dude is only 198 also speed is something Logan is outclassed by Laura and acrobatics also his bones doesn't even matter her claws and his claws and bones are made out of the same material so she could cut his arms off and if you don't believe search it up yourself also why do you refer them as Mr and Ms you can call them by their real names Hugh and Dafne actors usually hate being called Mr and Ms (also Laura is 11 in the movies but IRL Dafne is 12 or 13 not so sure now get it right) and your being really offensive to kids since I know a few kids who can move some pretty strong adults and beat them in arm wrestles also Old Man Logan and Laura fought in the comics and X-23 won the fight pretty easy here is the proof th-cam.com/video/pIuTrilEZ0Q/w-d-xo.html also when the Reavers invaded the factory where Logan lived (I think it was some sort of factory) Logan was struggling against a few guys, Laura murdered nearly everyone there also she did bruise him it was even recorded you naive fool, I have proof and you don't you only know a few things about this where as I am crazy about this getting every detail as much as possible, Patrick admitted himself that he thought Dafne's performance was outstanding also here's the link to the recording of her punching him th-cam.com/video/h8YJt6iQPNA/w-d-xo.html and if this isn't enough then I don't know what is
I'm 29 and watched this for the first time just last week... I cried like a little bitch too, but oddly it wasn't when Laura said "daddy" or when Logan died or even as Laura spoke over his grave. No, it was when she knelt down and turned the cross to an X... _that's_ when all the emotion exploded out all at once. Hell, I got a little choked up just typing this comment.
@@gersonribeiro374 I think it's because that was when it really struck home that this was a farewell to the X-Men. It wasn't just a grave for Logan, it was a grave for the last of the X-Men.
I'm surprised you didn't win driving into the fence. Perhaps the first time in a movie where a car isn't an unstoppable juggernaut that can drive through anything and we get a realistic crash.
Daphne Keen was born in 2005 X-Men was made in 2000 When the joke came to mind, I felt compelled to verify it. Let it be said, that Jackman and Stewart were playing Wolverine and Prof. X, *literally* since before she was born😀.
yes, she is 13 now but remember the film was released about 19 months ago and principle photography would have been completed 6+ months before that, she was probably 10/11 while filming and was 11 when the film was released
Godspeed bruh...I will speak on behalf of all of the gen zs, we are sooo fucked up. I myself watched dark knight the OG adventures in babysitting. Plus, I'm a teen. Not a kid. Legally? Yes. Mentally? Sometimes. Nevertheless, your argument has been lightly toasted.
Hate to break it to you, but he was turned into a weapon in Canada too. Alkali Lake is in Canada. He left Canada and made it to the US where he fought in various wars (since he knew nothing else), hunted animals, and was just an all-around animal until he was found by the X-Men and realized he can use his talents for good. So the way I see it, your analogy still works but I think it's like this: Canada is where he was born, and made into an animal. He escaped, and made it to the United States wherein he stared into the abyss until he found a way out and became a X-Man. He died right on the border between the countries, as his last journey made him return to where he was born and created. Instead of returning to where he was made an animal like he was supposed to, he died letting those who were better than him (the mutant children) escape to his home, which he and the world has made into a sanctuary. An animal doesn't share their home unless they care for who they'll share with. He died on the border of both worlds, symbolizing his duality between his animalistic instincts and longing to be a normal man; with his daughter witnessing his last moments when he finally knew how it was to love and be truly human. A bit wordy, but I think it works.
I have to be honest, the deaths of Xavier and Logan felt like losing family members to me. I actually cried, and I never cry at movies. To think that this is the last time we'll get to hear Xavier's grandfatherly wisdom, or cheer at Logan's trademark screams of rage.
@@Komikazi1999 Endgame was pretty mediocre compared to Infinity War. Most of the deaths weren't sad other than Tony's. The writing was far worse than IW and the pacing was terrible.
Eh, I don't know, I guess it wasn't really supposed to be a good thing, his birth name must've reminded him of a lot of his broken and confusing family life when he was growing up. It really shows just how much he shed his superhero identity, and began to embrace just how sad and broken his life had become. Honestly, I love how the movie's called Logan, it's like the perfect middle ground between the two; of his superhero and caring identity and the actual person he wanted to be.
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Fun Fact: Jackman said if FOX would give the rights of Wolverine to Marvel, he'd come back.....all he wants to be is in an avengers film.....apparently.
Fun fact : Logan was supposed to get erased by Thanos but he permanently keeps healing his desintegrating body, so much so that the reality stone breaks up and blows off Thanos's hand. This is how they defeat him :p
Well, I don't think Jackman will be in Avengers 4 now that Disney is completing it's purchase of Fox, but I would LOVE to see him and all the other X-Men in another Avengers team-up
He said that pre-Logan, he went back on that after it premiered, since he thought Logan was a strong end to his time as the character and didn't want to undermine its impact
I can’t believe they left out the part where Laura’s first instinct was to shield Charles in the car when they were escaping, catching a bullet in the arm and then spitting it out. A moment of pure badassery and top-notch character development.
The comic books in Logan was really a genius idea. Logan believes they're all crap because most of it is made up but they have real meaning to the mutant kids. Those kids grew up in a lab and were treated like things. They learned about morality and heroes from those comics. Those comics gave the kids hope when they had none. So the lessons of those comics will carry very strongly with them. That's what Eden was about. It was a place that was in the comics and didn't exist in the real world. But the kids believed in the comics and went to that place and created Eden themselves. That shows how even though the X-Men are gone, their legacy will live on and they'll still inspire future generations to fight for their dreams.
KingOfMadCows I thought it also very subtly separated Logan from the other X-men movies. "In the real world, people die." For me, that summed up what they had already told us: this movie is different. There are very real consequences that these characters have to deal with. To me, that grounded the movie more than make it silly.
I like to think it existed before they got there. At least a little bit of it. I don't know where else they got beds and telescopic binoculars in the small amount of time. Of course the workers could have put it there before they broke the kids out but then it still means it was there before the kids got there.
It's like in the comic, Cyclops was seen as the leader but in the films, he wasn't. I can understand why Logan would call comic books unfaithful and doesn't show the inner struggles of what the X-Men go through.
Laura is DEFINITELY a win in this movie. I don't usually like child actors, but Dafne Keen who played Laura truly impressed me with her strength and sass in Logan and I felt she was definitely on equal footing with Patrick and Hugh. She has all the badass-ness and power of Logan....and she can even kick HIS ass which was hilarious to watch....but at the same time, there was still a hint of a scared little girl who needed Logan to protect her. The only thing I wish I could have seen more of is Logan FINALLY having peace and forging a stronger relationship with Laura as his daughter.....for most of this film, I think he saw her as this annoying little kid that Xavier forced him into protecting, and it was only there at the end that I saw him really WANT to protect her. It killed me that I lost two of my favorite X-Men in this movie, but I actually do want to see if Laura's journey continues...maybe as the new Wolverine.
Its interesting, the character shift that comes in this film. Throughout the original trilogy, Prof. X has always been a surrogate father figure to his students and his team....and Logan and Logan respects him, even if he doesn't always agree with him. In this movie, that role has reversed. Prof. X is more the fragile child, struggling to hold on and Logan has had to become the father figure/protector. Then when they meet Laura, he doesn't bond with her immediately, but as they go deeper into their journey....and especially after Charles is killed, Logan finds himself becoming a father to Laura as well....and in the end the vision was fulfilled....he finally found peace and died with his heart (his daughter) holding his hand.
I've watched Logan three times since it was released, but when this video reached the scene with Laura crying and calling him "daddy", I still teared up. This movie is truly an amazing achievement.
yea no kidding...whoever plays wolverine next, because let's be real they're going to recast him sooner or later, the dude needs to have that kind of scream
so what? sean connery played james bond for over 20 years and that character has been recast quite a few times. jackman is getting older he can't maintain that kind of body anymore. HE doesn't want to be in that kind of shape. wolverine his far and away the popular x-men character...if disney is adding the x-men to the MCU you bet your ass they're adding a new wolverine. nerdrage be damned it WILL happen. you can't be this dumb thinking they wouldn't recast him. they're going to recast all the x-men.
because it's common fucking sense...do you honestly think disney absorbing the x-men franchise will just never recast it's most popular member? seriously???
If Jackman doesn't get nominated.... It's nearly June and Logan is still the best film of the year. Hugh gave the performance of his career in this. So brutal and heartbreaking. I don't give a fuck what comes out this year during Oscar bait season. I want Hugh to win. It's not like Oscars matter all that much, but it would just be icing on the cake after an almost 20 year run and getting to do what many actors don't get to have: a proper ending to the character that made them.
have you seen the honest trailers vid for logan? they call up Reynolds and ask him to help find something to make fun of about it but he just says its a masterpiece and if hugh doesnt get an award for his performance, he'll find and burn every VHS tape of "crash" lolol even he cant bash it its so good
Sadly, it won't happen. But does Logan really need any Oscars? This is the best comic book movie of all time that isn't directed by Christopher Nolan, whether the Academy recognizes that or not, is irrelevant.
best actor looks packed so far. from the three I predict: hugh jackman for Logan armie hammer for call me by your name Daniel day-lewis for his upcoming film
Soundtrack is under appreciated. Amplified every scene. Hotel scene gave me extreme anxiety. Logan and Laura going apeshit in the woods filled me with adrenaline. Logan experiencing Xavier’s death made me tear up. Can’t remember the last time a movie made me so emotional. Probably Lord of the Rings.
He's not getting nominated. I'd love to see him get an Oscar nomination for this film, but the Oscars just don't nominate these films for these kinds of awards.
What I love about Xavier's death are the reactions. Laura reacts with a scream and anger while Logan reacts with an inability to understand what he's feeling. Laura's reaction is more adult-like and Logan's is more child-like. Great subtlety.
I went to the theatre to watch this film. It was packed and the crowd reacted...but they reacted...wrong. They desperately looked for something that made things happier than they really were. They searched for comic book hope instead of seeing real life torture. When Logan hit the truck with the shovel, the theatre bursted with laughter evwn though it was supposed to be a touching and unnerving moment. I went and saw the movie with my stepdad and he had a similar reaction. He kept coming up with these crazy fan theories that would work in a PG-13 Comic world, not in the R-rated real world. Logan is a film that exploits what we as an audience have grown accustomed to and exposed how it ACTUALLY is. You're not supposed to leave with hope or thoughts of the future. You're supposed to leave with the acceptance of the end and what led to that point. To take a page from Last Jedi, Logan didn't die in sorrow or in pain. He was finally at peace and got the sleep he always wanted. This movie is outstanding in everyway imaginable and will always be my favorite Superhero movie and is up there for my favorite movie of all time.
You're right, most American film watchers are seeking that happy feeling at the end. This movie breaks the cliche, which makes it outstanding! If it wasn't for the R rating for Deadpool and the mass box office sales, this movie could have easily been edited for a PG-13. It definitely would not have felt the same.
They probably thought they were watching a mcu movie or something. Logan is definitely more bleak than most superhero movies, when u see an mcu you're expecting to get some laughs along the way. But Logan is so intense and emotional its definitely a game changer for superhero movies. Of course I love humor sprinkled here and there but I definitely wanna see more serious movies made like logan.
Definitely that happened to me in theaters to the number of little kids I saw was clear most of the audience wasn't going to get what this was about. And I am talking little kids like I was 14 when it came out my first rated r movie in theaters and I was sitting next to 5 year olds.
Nah. That was funny. Yes it was sad. But it was a deliberate transition from a peaceful shot to Logan beating up a truck with a shovel. What has the truck done? What will beating it up do? Nothing. It's supposed to be both sad AND funny. Charles swearing and sassily sticking his tongue out are likely a result of dementia-induced personality changes. But you laughed at those.
Okay, one very important win I think you missed. The parallel between the water tower and Cerebro. Cerebro connected Xavier to the whole world, but the water tower, with its speckled light shining through, blocks Xavier from the rest of the world, the lights being a taunt to Xavier's former powerful self.
17:12 I just love that scene so much. Everything is so perfect. It's so adorably funny to watch Patrick's acting as Charles the old man staring at little kid mess around with his wheelchair, just like a grandpa watching his grandkid.
Even though everyone touts X-24 as Logan minus all of his humanity, the film very subtly calls that claim into question. He actually stands there and listens for a while when Charles speaks, as opposed to getting on with his mission immediately, and puts what looks like a comforting hand on his shoulder before he kills him. He doesn't attack Logan until Logan attacks him, in spite of being supposedly a being of pure berserker rage. Finally, his rage after Rice is killed seemed, to me at least, to be tinged with a hint of grief.
2wingo It seemed to me that X-24 was imperfect and was easily distracted, such as the farmers arriving at the house. He was sent to extract Laura, but Charles's words caught his attention. Then the Munson son and mom attacked him, and then he was briefly infuriated by the wife's shotgun blast, and then stabbed Mr. Munson when he ran upstairs. It's like when he saw Logan, he almost saw him as the older weaker model and didn't even see him as a threat. And after Caliban blew up the truck and knocked Rice down, it looked like X-24 was walking over to see if he's alright and didn't even notice when Logan came up to attack him from the side.
I make it even more tear reaching when Logan tells Xavier "It wasn't me", because deep down both he and us the audience know pretty well it is him, just another version of him that never got Xavier's help or friendship.
Daphne Keen. Nothing else really needs to be said except that she was an equal to Hugh Jackman and fucking Sir Patrick fucking Stewart. Fingers crossed she has an amazing career. What an amazing performance by all 3 of them in equal measure.
I remember after release barely any reviewer talked about her performance. But people have started to come around since then, maybe it took them repeated viewings to pick up on her nuances. I loved her immediately. For example her lying in the grass shackled when X-24 and Logan fight, screaming like a captured animal from fear/concern for Logan and rage. Seems like nothing but told me more about her than her smiling at the dinner table.
I read somewhere that one of the things she loved most about the part was "getting to be a wild animal". You can tell she loved going all-out raging-bull in the film, which is so unusual for a child actor to get to do. They really capitalized on her strengths in directing it.
Absolutely. But we don't know the full extent of her acting range yet. It's been rumored she could be in a solo X-23 movie, but I'm actually afraid that she could be one of those bad examples of young actors getting typecast after this or burned out from the early success/stress. Or she'll be simply dumped into kid roles in some pointless Hollywood B movies that don't get her any recognition. To be perfectly honest, somehow I hope this is her last time as the character, to give it more meaning. Finish school, learn a trade to have a fallback plan in case acting doesn't work out.
I'll be honest, I didn't really like that performance, but that could have been due to the writing for that character rather than the direction of the acting. But both aspects of her acting would have been fine if they didn't become a broken record over the running time.
Logan summed up in one word: Pain. And I don't mean just physical pain, or pain in a bad way. I mean the subtle aches and pains of daily life that reminds us that we're alive, the dull throb of enduring self imposed loneliness. The sharp stinging pain of watching a loved one leave the nest and the pride you feel knowing they're going to do just fine without you, the slow grinding torment of feeling you've let down somebody you admire and look up to. I first saw Logan opening night in a theater near my work, and had to drive home for more than a half hour afterwards, and it was just brutal. It left me stunned and silent, and I could tell from the sniffles in the theater that I was not the only man crying when the credits rolled. This movie is a masterpiece, and it deserves at the very least nominations for best actor (Jackman), best supporting actor (Steward), best supporting actress (Keene) and best director. I wouldn't be surprised to see nominations for some of the technical awards either, the cinematography in this film is absolutely stunning (as shown by the fact it works so well in both color AND black & white) Great review, guys. Am I right in saying this is the highest win count yet in any of your films?
Brock O'Meles you hit the nail on the painful head. I had the exact same experience opening night. I brought my entire crew to see it the following day and we all shed a tear together. I also agree this movie absolutely deserves several oscar nods, also deserves to win one.
Not sure how much you know about cinematography, but the cinematography in Logan is far from stunning. The direction was extremely flat and dull, I don't see how Mangold would deserve a best director nomination
The whole reason I became fan of superhero movies and comics was Wolverine. I watched Logan three times in theatres and cried everytime. I truly felt like someone I loved had died in real life. I would just randomly cry thinking about the ending of the movie in the shower. No joke. It destroyed me. No movie had this much effect on me.
I am so glad I am not alone. I went in blind without a trailer or knowing the premise and this movie tore something out of my soul. The 15 or so people in the theater were all crying with me, such an incredible experience
Kyle Kingsland seems pretty obvious upon 1st watching to me. I actually think cyclops is in eden and will lead the new mutants with xavier's philosophy, maybe with emma at his side.
Either cyclops or Cable and this is the future he comes from in Deadpool. But its likely Cyclops would have been in the mansion when xavier had his stroke
TheEman11910 well i do understand we are talking new mutants as a film and it is cable... But i more meant a new batch of mutants not the new mutants who i always consider as xforce. Nevermind that the characters in the new mutants which cable becomes leader of are nothing like the group of kids entering eden. That aside completely, i dont think its a given that cyclops is at the mansion, not if there is a schism. Spoiler alert, scott kills xavier in comics. I think having him publicly create/embellish stories is a perfect thing to drive him from the trusted circle of say wolvie, storm, beast and such. And it makes far too much sense for the eden nuggett to be real and he put coords in a story that could lead any future mutant to his side. Also its possible he didnt kill everyone at the mansion, just some, but obvious to all that logan is the one who can survive caring for xavier, and the schism could have been natural that way too. Either way was a feeling i had that scott would b in eden. Perfect way to segway to a completely new arch, lets not forget if he were behind it all, he would be old too, which is something we havnt seen before. Anything is possible at this point. Logan paved a way for trying different things.
Every time I watch this I cry. I can't help it. Between seeing Professor X die, and Logan's "So this is what it feels like." At the end kills me inside. I... just can't... I love this movie it hits all the right strings but damn... Also I love the dual meaning to Logan's final words. On one hand you can see it as This is what it means to love. Or this is what it feels like to die!?!? I mean its just so heartbreaking either way
tom reeves I thought it was lacking compared to old man Logan the comics which hulk being a villain was much better plus I like logans death in comics better and prefer Daken over Laura so personally the movie was only a 85% for me
the only thing that got on my nerves was when Laura started talking, I would've preferred it if she didn't talk at all, it would've made her a stronger character in my opinion
he's said he will consider coming back for cameos and non-speaking roles. nothing is certain yet, except that right now he doesn't want to do any more prof X heavy plots. but then again, in a few years and the right amount of 0's , he'd probably have no problem playing Xavier again.
As much as I loved it, I still haven't watched this film a second time. I was 9 when the first X-Men came out, and basically grew up with Hugh Jackman an Patrick Stewart as Logan and Charles, and despite their flaws really look up to them as heroes. Seeing the state they were in, but especially seeing them die was extremely rough; it felt like loosing some old friends.
Wow...someone who gets it. I only watched this movie once and probably never will watch it again because seeing Logan and Charles die broke me. I cried for a whole week yo 😭
Alternative stary? No way! This ending is so realistic. We get to see two powerhouse heros show they are not invincible. We see how age and regret can really break us. This is a wonderful and realistic end to a fantasy genre.
Myles Schutte exactly, thank you. I don't understand people saying that they enjoy it more as "alternative story". If it is "alternative story", it just undermines the death of these characters and just takes away any emotion from it. Not every story has to end with beautiful happily ever after, that's not how real world works. This is end of these characters, you can't have an end in some alternative bullcrap.
Exactly. Though I can respect other people's opinion that they enjoy it more as an "alternative story", I personaly can't. What's touching me the most is that in the future scene in Days of Future Past, we can see all the characters seem finally happy. Then, we jump like 10 or more years later, to see THIS. I don't even have to see how the other X-Men died. All the subtle informations are enough. And they're touching.
It's realistic in OUR universe yes, but I think of it as an alternative story/universe because a) Professor X (or Magneto) probably would have noticed the drop off of mutants and investigated sooner and b) Alternative timelines are established in-universe and c) this movie, while a masterpiece in hopelessness, doesn't match the rest of the universe (in my opinion). This isn't the true ending than any other "ending" to the story, as multiverse exists in X-Men and the greater Marvel universe.
Tomás Jarsun, but even that's just a nitpick for me. Plus, maybe the technology in 2029 is hella dope and all smart phones have built in editing apps (;
Writing could've been better. Caliban and Pierce got shafted by the script, and they were easily the two most interesting new characters. Pierce's role got replaced by Dr. Rice, and honestly Dr. Rice should've been written out of the script and his traits should've been given to Pierce (would've made him much more interesting), plus Pierce had a really lame death. It would've been way cooler if Pierce was a scientist that had been studying Wolverine for years, and created X-24 as a result of his research, knowing that nothing can kill Wolverine besides himself. I don't know where I would take Caliban, but before he was taken he was a fascinating character, and after he was taken he got thrown to the wayside, ultimately killing himself. Would've loved to see his dynamic with Logan, Xavier and X23, or maybe something else entirely. Didn't really like the kids at the end either, I feel like they could've been written out of the script as well. Ultimately the beginning of the film until they leave Las Vegas is exceptional, and after that, the rest of the film slowly started to go downhill. At least for me anyway.
I remember Jackman saying in an interview early on in his Wolverine career that he would always play the part of Wolverine "as long as his body could portray it, since he isn't supposed to age" ... I was wondering then how they could kill him off and make it actually sad, painful, yet beautiful... Then I get Logan like 20 years later and I got what I thought was impossible! Love this movie!
Did anybody else get a Last of Us vibe while watching this movie? I couldn't have been the only one. There's gotta be a name for this type of story arc, right?
Found family, perhaps? I feel that this mimicked TLOU in the best ways. Both have an excellent tone/aesthetic, beautiful gore, and predictable albeit heart-wrenching plots.
@@heydoeradio7298 Injecting those roids in his prime? I don't think it will work since his healing factor is much stronger. Logan was not infected by any substance like alchohol, poison, tranq darts, etc due to his healing factor. Since he is very old in this movie and the poisoning, his healing factor is weaker so it doesn't do its job very much like during his prime.
" You are dying. You want to die, " That was one of my favorite lines in the entire film and the look Logan gives here in that scene. It's a moment where, for as much as he doesn't want to admit it, that's what he wants.
Patrick Stewart went from playing this beautiful fleshed out character in a beautiful movie to playing a poop emoji in the emoji movie. I have very mixed feelings right now
I hear Patrick has like 4 lines in that movie. Doubt that'll have a big impact. Plus if we're lucky most of this "generation of kids" won't see that trainwreck.
I'm going to be honest and admit to crying after watching Logan. As a 15 year old I've lived my entire life with Hugh Jackman as Wolverine and after seeing this movie it finally set in that he would never play Wolverine again and seeing as the very first superhero movie I can remember was the first X-Men and Wolverine has been my favorite character ever since I wouldn't help but cry even if it's wierd or embarrassing watching Logan die was just too emotional for me.
Interesting bit of trivia about that: according to legend, when St. Andrew was sentenced to be crucified, he considered himself unworthy of dying in the same position as Jesus, and so requested that his cross be tilted down into an X position. Also, in some traditions St. Andrew is the patron saint of butchers, so...
9:42 and, to add to that, X-24 is dressed and his hair and beard are cut to look like Sabertooth! Basically representing Logan embracing the nature of his more feral and violent brother.
Anon Emus Even Honest Trailers didn't say anything bad about it. They tried to get deadpool to think of something but he didn't want to 'shit on the Jack-Man'.
+Shamus Quinn I am pretty sure , that they would do it , the coming week . After all , they also did " Iron Man 3 (2013 ) " for no reason at all . If this movie soes not have much sins , well , then they would just do this movie for fun . I really really love this movie , btw .
My favorite part about Dafne Keen is I'm pretty sure it said "introducing" before her name in the opening credits. That would make this her film *debut,* and she absolutely killed it! (Also literally. Dem claw skills!)
I love the payoff of the "choo choo!" foreshadowing. Charles mentioning it while trying to calm down Laura and then it becomes instrumental to their escape.
So the theater near me "accidentally" released the movie 3 days in advance (it does for every major film) and i got to see it ahead of a lot of people and i have to say that this was the hardest film to not talk about. Like i hate spoiling a movie, but i wanted to talk about this one right after, while not being able to. It was the best xmen film, hands down.
Daphne really impressed me with this film. I'm not normally a huge fan of child actors. Which is not to be callous or disregarding of the challenges they face, but most of them simply aren't believable. Maybe they have the latent talent, and maybe they grow up to be stellar actors, but very few people that age can act so convincingly. Kudos to her. Very convincing, very moving.
I love that this is the farthest from a traditional comic book movie in the best way, it keeps things incredible real and the comedy to a bare minimum. Definitely a masterpiece for me.
I know the film claims he's more or less a mindless drone, but X-24 _does_ have one incredibly subtle "human" moment in the film, which is where he gets a kind of second wind against Logan after seeing the corpse of Zander Rice and roaring in what seems to be grief and anger. Coupled with Pierce urging X-24 to avenge Rice by killing Logan, there are some pretty clear implications that X-24 considered Rice his "father". I also noticed how just because X-24 got his brain blown out doesn't necessarily mean he's truly dead. Like Logan, his brain will heal...and I guess the big chunk of his skull missing would grow back in bone, giving him one pretty severe weak spot in an otherwise indestructible body. I dunno, make of that what you will.
YayaFingerButters X-24 has a weaker healing factor because when he was rammed into the spikes his healing factor couldn't heal the wounds without the green serum so a major injury like this he probably won't be able to heal that so he is dead
I think if the bullet goes cleanly through his skull then it would kill him, or at least it would seem like it since Wolverine seems to know that he would be able to kill himself with it and X-24's healing factor is some degree weaker than his healing factor in his prime. Wolverine's healing factor's strength has also varied greatly (I believed he completely healed from one drop of blood once), but in the x men movies I'd assume its at a point where there are very few realistic ways of killing him. I think its always been a thing that Wolverine's head/brain is his sort of weakness because he can be killed through decapitation (you'd obviously need a weapon made of adamantium to do that though). If the bullet destroyed parts of his brain, or almost completely destroyed his brain, I don't think it would heal, so he would die similar to any normal human being shot through the brain.
Right, the adamantium bullet would've killed Logan because his healing factor is failing. But X-24 is still in his prime, just like Logan was in _X-Men Origins._ If Logan could survive two or three adamantium bullets to the brain in that movie, X-24 can probably survive just one (granted with zero memories whatsoever).
I'm so glad when I watched Logan, it was at home on my own. The movie stabbed me right in the childhood, but in a strangely satisfying way. This was many icons of mine, entire years of my life, amazing actors who inspired me, saying goodbye. And it wasn't happy. It was brutal, there was suffering, no one got what they wanted. But it was fitting, and artful. I remember laying my head on the desk at the credits and just mourning Logan.
For me too man. Am I the only one that feels proud of her? Like... I'm seeing her growing up and unleashing her acting gift. I'm so proud of this girl and I don't even know why
OKAY it was heartbreaking when Laura called Logan 'Daddy' but when she turned that cross into an 'X' I couldn't handle it. I was like "nope, fuck you FOX, why you do this?" and I sobbed. That shit 100% broke my soul.
LAte comment but this is exactly the feeling I've had for the longest time. Cinemasins is shit now, but Ccinemawins has their integrity, does their research AND actually seems to love what they're doing. Fuck Jeremy.
@@brainrich1358 the problem with it is that there are some sins that they do that aren’t meant to be satire and are either completely wrong or just not a good sin. Either go full satire or be a actual critic channel like it used to be.
@@brainrich1358 Bullshit. Go watch some of Jeremy's legit movie reviews. There is a LOT of overlap between those and the content in his 'sin' videos. He's just too bitch-made to admit they're genuine criticism, because he's a small-minded coward of a 'man'.
I have to say, All my life Wolverine was a big figure in my life, ever since I saw the first one in my early years and seeing some good movies and the fairly bad, But I do want to say I like all of them for different reasons, even origins. Watching this indestructible, unstoppable beastly man, kill Soldiers, Mutants, family and government was truly badass. Seeing him now as this grizzly, old dying man who is in his final days holding onto life waiting for his rightful death. Seeing this change made me feel upset and really bring the message that every hero dies, But a quote I really did pick up in another movie, You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain, And Logan literally saw the villain of himself kill his father figure and himself, I'm glad he held onto what was a little bit of happiness in a lifetime of pain to let it pay Of with his daughter, I will always see Wolverine aka Logan as my hero figure and know that he gave some of the best memories to ever give, Logan you'll be missed, time to pass the claws on
Not weird, but it does illustrate why I think father figure is the wrong phrase. We may feel he was a father figure, but Logan watched him grow up. They were equals, friends, brothers much like Charles and Erik. It was our visual perception of age that fed into the father figure angle.
"...how the film treats us like adults. which is what you should be..." *whistles innocently while remembering the trip to the cinema with 5 other 13 year old kids*
@@ayden_james 15+? What a joke. There's a brief scene where Logan is giving some prom girls a ride, and one of them flashes him. That's automatically an 18+ rating (or R if you live in burgerland)
I must say as a daughter who always bonded with my father over comic books. And this being the first rated r movie I ever saw in theaters with my dad. This movie just holds such an amazing place in my heart. I am so glad this exists for me to relive it every once in a while
Wow. What an incredible and emotional ending to a beloved character. Maybe one of the most beautifully tragic deaths to a character I’ve ever seen. No one could ever desecrate this *body* of work and make me say *Bye Bye Bye* to the memory of Logan.
Sorry, it is. And the tragic thing about that is that I'm saying that as a long-time fan of Wolverine and ended up feeling almost nothing powerful about "Logan". I was just a mediocre, if really well-made movie.
PictureProductStudio Spider-Man 2 is literally mediocre compared to Logan and you didn't feel anything. You must not cry a lot. Me? Me and my wife cried and she didn't speak to me until the next day
The High Functioning Sociopath, You know, "Logan" seems absolutely unrealistic and quite easy on the viewer after you've seen such great movies as Belgian "Man Bites Dog" (1992) as just one example. If I liked "Logan" lesser then you it doesn't mean I have no sense of critical thinking. It just plain means I was not as impressed. Probably because I've seen a lot of much better and gripping movies in my lifetime. "Spider-Man 2" is no masterpiece either, but it's much fair and complex to what it does and it has a large amount of surprisingly uncomfortable scenes. Nothing was as uncomfortable or gripping in "Logan" for me.
"Daddy...."
Excuse me, I'm going to go to a corner and cry...
And there I was thinking Portman's performance in Leon was setting standards.
phileas007 if there is a cake Keen takes it
Warrior Spirit Movers well i hated this movie (dont really know why) and his death didnt made me ANYTHING ( and i always cry during movie death) pls help me ;(
+Gabriel Brunet Well explain why you didn't like it and go off from there.
Dylan Garza same
I don't remember a time when I had seen so many grown men cry like children simultaneously in a theatre.
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I'd say Furious 7 is probably up there on the list, but I think Logan kicked just about everyone in the gut far more than that.
I am a comic book reader since I learned to read pretty much, and there is only a few movies I consider good adaptations, and truly deserves the respect of the community, one of those are Logan, it makes me cry of happiness and sadness watching it.
Infinity War
@@rose_warts no need to cry since we knew they would be coming back. Logan was the end of it and we knew it
Fun fact going along with Laura's spanish montage, apparently Jackman went to apologise to Dafne's mother for swearing at Dafne. Dafne's mother replied with "don't worry, she just called you a f****** c***"
I really want to learn spanish to know what she actually said
He*
i know its late but you have a source for that ? would love to see an interview with that
@Wb2006xxProduction In case you still care:
"Why do you want me to talk to you if you're always insulting me, yelling at me, if you try to leave me behind? You want me to open my mouth?"
Makes it kinda funny that he goes "Shut up!"
Also, apparently there were other bits written but she was allowed to improvise.
@@funnyvalentine1977 ?
Still pissed with how Jackman didn't get an Academy Award nomination for this film.
I think an Oscar for best actor would be more appropriate
This movie was more deserving of an Oscar than Black Panther
@@brainrich1358 damn right it is. Black Panther, and no disrespect to the late Chadwick, wasn't a great film. People overhype it a bit. Logan? Fucking amazing.
@@brainrich1358 damn right it is. Black Panther, and no disrespect to the late Chadwick, wasn't a great film. People overhype it a bit. Logan? Fucking amazing.
@@rev0568 Unless my memory is failing - BP and Logan wouldn't have been competing against each other - since they came out a year apart?
As someone who's nan had dementia Charles scene of "I always remember you Logan it's just sometimes I don't recognise you" that scene is so sad and I cried cause its so realistic
I feel that. Before he passed, my grandfather had really bad dementia. Late in his life he didn’t know the names of his grandchildren and towards the end he didn’t know he had any grandchildren at all. It was very saddening.
I can confirm this. It destroyed me.
My nan was the same, when it was at is peak we would go visit her and she would perk up because she knew she was supossed to know us even if she couldn't place us.. It's one of my biggest regrets, I only knew her with dementia so she never really knew me and at the time I recented her for it..
This ain’t only a movie about superheroes and their ending. Sir Patrick perfectly portrays how heartbreaking aging truly is, and because he played the Professor for so long, we feel that.
“He died literally holding his heart in his hand” Thanks, I didn’t need my heart anyway.
Neither did Logan
@@Essendiinanis bruh
Does not really make sense because she said that he was holding his OWN heart in his hand and it WASN'T beating so...
nik pan I mean technically she is a clone/his daughter
This is what makes me love this channel way more than that "other" one
Laura was older and a lot more sexualized in the comics. Eliminating the suggestive elements and casting Dafne Keen was a bold move on Fox’s part, and it works beautifully.
But she didn't originate from the comics to begin with. Before that, she debuted in the animated show "X-Men: Evolution," where she was this age. So it wasn't Fox's idea.
@@bigfatcarp93 Think they meant not using the sexualized Laura in favor of a younger version.
You’re referencing a comic that really wasn’t very good or important or added much to her character, which originated from the X-Men Evolution (where there was zero sexual subtext and the same odd “parental” bond was the focus). So they didn’t change her up, they just went back to the definitive roots. I do like the changed elements of her being Mexican and her surrogate mothers’ character. I don’t accept the comic’s take on this-as I don’t accept pretty much any chnage the comics tried to add- where her mother is a scientist forced to be impregnated as punishmen for showing empathy, they were trying for an edgy tale but the result is really just an example of fiction writer sexism, female exploitation used for cheap drama. The surrogate mother in this movie was a way more believable, respectable character.
pretty much all femasle comic book heros are sexualised
sExUaLiZeD
when Logan said "so this is what it feels like" I always thought he meant death, but no he meant love. so nice
He definitely meant death because he's felt love before
@@joedrayton3598 yeah lol he loved the xmen family, Charles or Chuck lol and definitely Jean Grey
@@joedrayton3598 he has felt love before, but since he lost the person he loved most (multiple times btw) he neglected the feeling of love to not feel the pain that comes with it, he's able to die in peace and finally the person he most cares about lives
Joe Drayton loving your kid is a different kind of love my guy.
I think he meant family.. because this was the only time he actually felt what real family was like plus charles was literally begging him to get married. So ig he was talking about so this is how family feels.
I know this is more than a year old but i've been watching the vids and had to comment, at 8:53 when x-24 murders xavier, there's one thing that for me personally is the best by far, and is that when logan sees x-24 going down the stairs and realizes that he probably killed xavier, the FIRST thing he says when he gets to him is "it wasn't me" as in desperation to let his only friend left know that he didn't betray him. That gives me chills everytime i remember it.
same
Let's be honest
Xavier is the closest thing to a father Logan ever had.
Imagine thinking your son killed you without an ounce of love.
And the confusion especially after such a sweet sentence.
@@heydoeradio7298 Logan was nearly 200 years old in this movie. Charles was 90, Why would Logan think of Charles as his father? Charles is more like Logan's great grand son.
@@NishantSoniTV A father isn't measured in years, boy. If he thought of him in that way he had all the reasons. He was his mentor and a wise man that helped him a lot through his life, he represented a senior to him for many aspects.
@@artemis-u-3676 this.
When Charles died and Logan said "it wasn't me..." It broke my heart
Fu fu Mc cuddly poops Stop it, you're giving me flashbacks!
Fu fu Mc cuddly poops That moment in the movie broke my heart
My friend wasn't paying attention when I first saw the movie in theaters and he thought Wolverine actually killed Charles and he literally screamed "what the fuck!!!" while the whole theater was silent.
jamesO4E123 LOL
I can't believe that I was strong enough not to cry
you missed the part right after logan meets is clone and instead of following him and rescuing laura, he goes upstairs to check on Charles, like is worst fear coming to life.
Underrated comment.
And when he gets to Charles, Logan saying, "It wasn't me! It wasn't me!"
@@brainrich1358 but i killed em on the counter
(im so sorry)
I'd also like to mention that Logan has now seen Charles die TWICE.
Wait,wha?...
Could you please explain?
@@baggerzzreggab7914 Jean kills Charles in front of Logan in X-men The Last Stand (the 3rd film in the franchise)
@@pakynabil ahhh..ok thx
@@sirsneakybeaky It’s a confusing timeline, but I’m pretty sure the events of last stand were wiped away when Logan fixes everything in days of future past. So Charles never actually transferred his consciousness. Logan did see Charles die twice though, cuz he still remembers everything that happened in last stand.
@@jackbennett8090 Yeah Logan did rewrite the timeline in the main X-men movies. But the Logan movie is in another alternate timeline where X-men 2 and 3 never happened at all, it was just the fight at the statue of liberty and then nearly 25 years after that, the events of Logan happen. I hope that cleared everything up.
Have you ever noticed that every time laura attacks she yells ,screams and over exaggerates noises like they do in the comic books??
Because her nurse let her read all those X-men comic books so now she thinks that when fighting you have to actually yell and do noises like that..
Federal agent Holton Lol
Which is a bit of a contrast to comix Laura who is far more silent and calculated even during her beserker rages.
...........that actually does explain it perfectly, to be honest. I hadn't even thought of that one. Thanks! :)
such a good detail
Never thought of that but it makes sense
I love how X-24 has the same kind of haircut as Sabertooth in Origins, it really makes you think Logan would have turned out just like his brother if he had stayed with the Weapon X program under Stryker.
Jeah i think that also
the moment x-24 appeared first in the screen through xavier’s eyes i literally thought it was sabertooth. i was like hES BACK??!?!
@@MRoriz-ls8hg just Like me, well i newer had chance to go deep in xmem lore so i newer heard about x24
X-24 was suppose to be a hybrid of Wolverine and Sabertooth.
Fun fact, sabertooth was supposed to be the original antagonist in the movie but they went with X 24. And I'm glad they did
Can we also take a second to appreciate the sound design? Every strike of the claws feels so meaty and weighty really conveying the power behind them.
Like each one is fighting with a bunch of swords. *Awesome.*
lol it was lazy, i felt the opposite. That "schling" got tiring fast and it hurts hearing it more than once in a row, go to 19:20. every single strike slow fast on flesh on metal with momentum or without they all made that same metalic high pitched sound. Heck even the shoe laura shoves into some dudes neck makes the same sound as the adamantium claws.
@@vulpex4105 ummm.....that was the win counter.
@@youshallnotpass3937 Oh yea. I should rewatch the movie
@@vulpex4105 I thought it was the claws at first too lol😂
Laura riding around on Xavier's wheelchair never ceases to get a giggle out of me lol. She's so great.
The absolute saddest scene for me is when Professor X starts raving about Taco Bell. He’s so far gone he can’t tell what’s important, and where his information is coming from. To see one of the most intelligent and fatherly figures in movie history, spouting off an ad he probably saw on TV at one point is just sad. It’s like watching a respected loved one crap themselves
Well, that's what dementia does to you.
No offense
Ginger Returns yeah it’s sad to see it, my grandfather has that and doesn’t know how to do anything anymore
Kinda like what eating Taco Bell does to you
One of my largest creep out thing is actually stuff like when a character breaks mentally and starts raving or looks around and starts calling for their mother. That kind of stuff messes with me because i mean I like knowing who i am and having control over my thoughts so the idea of losing all my mental functions is the worst for me.
When professor xdies
"im not really a big fan of gore or viscera"
*has a win montage of all the gory stuff at the end*
He did it because even though he wasnt a fan, *it was that awesome he had to make the sequence.* It just goes to show how well made this film is, where someone who isnt a fan of a certain aspect of a movie *literally makes a rip-ya-face-off montage.*
the kid playing laura is absolutely phenominal. she didn't even say fifty lines and she was the highlight of the show
I agree. It was hilarious how she beat up Logan....and got away with it all while bellowing at him in Spanish. And apparently that was HER idea too. She asked the director if she could improv that scene and he liked her version so much he kept it. lol
Dafne Keen is gonna have a good career and I hope she gets to be in the MCU as Laura
I find it difficult to call her the highlight of the show if only because I thought pretty much the entirety of the film was extremely well done.
@@macree01 Hugh Jackman stated himself that when Dafne Keen punched him and he went back home he had bruises on his arm and movie wise Laura could kill him if she wanted, I love Logan but he's to old to fight someone like Laura, he's weaker and slower than he was before I'd be surprised if he even hit her. Laura wins that fight
@@macree01 First off all dude seriously? 200 years of fighting experience when the dude is only 198 also speed is something Logan is outclassed by Laura and acrobatics also his bones doesn't even matter her claws and his claws and bones are made out of the same material so she could cut his arms off and if you don't believe search it up yourself also why do you refer them as Mr and Ms you can call them by their real names Hugh and Dafne actors usually hate being called Mr and Ms (also Laura is 11 in the movies but IRL Dafne is 12 or 13 not so sure now get it right) and your being really offensive to kids since I know a few kids who can move some pretty strong adults and beat them in arm wrestles also Old Man Logan and Laura fought in the comics and X-23 won the fight pretty easy here is the proof th-cam.com/video/pIuTrilEZ0Q/w-d-xo.html also when the Reavers invaded the factory where Logan lived (I think it was some sort of factory) Logan was struggling against a few guys, Laura murdered nearly everyone there also she did bruise him it was even recorded you naive fool, I have proof and you don't you only know a few things about this where as I am crazy about this getting every detail as much as possible, Patrick admitted himself that he thought Dafne's performance was outstanding also here's the link to the recording of her punching him
th-cam.com/video/h8YJt6iQPNA/w-d-xo.html and if this isn't enough then I don't know what is
"Daddy"... I am a 25 year old man who was 23 when the movie came out and I cried in the movie teather almost as much as Laura did!!!!!
I'm 29 and watched this for the first time just last week... I cried like a little bitch too, but oddly it wasn't when Laura said "daddy" or when Logan died or even as Laura spoke over his grave. No, it was when she knelt down and turned the cross to an X... _that's_ when all the emotion exploded out all at once.
Hell, I got a little choked up just typing this comment.
@@maoman4855 I COMPLETELY understand you!!!!!!!
@@gersonribeiro374 I think it's because that was when it really struck home that this was a farewell to the X-Men. It wasn't just a grave for Logan, it was a grave for the last of the X-Men.
Same. I grew watching the X-men movies and when it came time for this movie,i was bawling my eyes out.
BALLED my eyes out
I'm surprised you didn't win driving into the fence. Perhaps the first time in a movie where a car isn't an unstoppable juggernaut that can drive through anything and we get a realistic crash.
somenoe wrote in another channel: "finally a movie where they do justice to a military grade fence!" :D :D
Jeff Scott this movie showed that for once, a car wasn't the juggernaut, bitch
Cabanerie way to reiterate exactly what he said... and call him a bitch anyway. lol.
Inquisitive Cameron you do realize I was referring to when the juggernaut says I'm the juggernaut bitch in men 3
*xmen
Daphne Keen was born in 2005
X-Men was made in 2000
When the joke came to mind, I felt compelled to verify it.
Let it be said, that Jackman and Stewart were playing Wolverine and Prof. X, *literally* since before she was born😀.
yes, she is 13 now but remember the film was released about 19 months ago and principle photography would have been completed 6+ months before that, she was probably 10/11 while filming and was 11 when the film was released
Dafne keen
wildside316 wait wait wait...daphne keen was born in 2005?!?
I'm at least a year older than her...this doesn't feel right at all...
@@Essendiinanis she's a little kid, you consider yourself a little kid? Maybe you shouldn't be watching this then, eh?
Godspeed bruh...I will speak on behalf of all of the gen zs, we are sooo fucked up.
I myself watched dark knight the OG adventures in babysitting.
Plus, I'm a teen. Not a kid. Legally? Yes. Mentally? Sometimes.
Nevertheless, your argument has been lightly toasted.
Also Logan dies right outside the border to where he was born for whatever that's worth
Proud to be Canadian, bub.
Tyler Jaynes God damn I thought I'd finally processed all my grief with this film and you pull right back onto this feels trip with that!
Worth something I'm sure
Ah canada, well he was temporarily Captain Canada once.
Hate to break it to you, but he was turned into a weapon in Canada too. Alkali Lake is in Canada.
He left Canada and made it to the US where he fought in various wars (since he knew nothing else), hunted animals, and was just an all-around animal until he was found by the X-Men and realized he can use his talents for good.
So the way I see it, your analogy still works but I think it's like this:
Canada is where he was born, and made into an animal. He escaped, and made it to the United States wherein he stared into the abyss until he found a way out and became a X-Man.
He died right on the border between the countries, as his last journey made him return to where he was born and created. Instead of returning to where he was made an animal like he was supposed to, he died letting those who were better than him (the mutant children) escape to his home, which he and the world has made into a sanctuary. An animal doesn't share their home unless they care for who they'll share with.
He died on the border of both worlds, symbolizing his duality between his animalistic instincts and longing to be a normal man; with his daughter witnessing his last moments when he finally knew how it was to love and be truly human.
A bit wordy, but I think it works.
I love how they removed his grey hairs when he injected himself. Attention to detail.
Wait what?
@@bigbywolf5197when Logan injects himself with whatever he did in the 3rd act, he gets physically younger in the movie. Pretty cool detail
I have to be honest, the deaths of Xavier and Logan felt like losing family members to me. I actually cried, and I never cry at movies.
To think that this is the last time we'll get to hear Xavier's grandfatherly wisdom, or cheer at Logan's trademark screams of rage.
You didn't cry for endgame
XD Kamui this movie was way more emotional than endgame
@@Komikazi1999 Endgame was an average movie.
@@C1azed I mean I don't really like X-Men but I respect your opinion
@@Komikazi1999 Endgame was pretty mediocre compared to Infinity War. Most of the deaths weren't sad other than Tony's. The writing was far worse than IW and the pacing was terrible.
No love for Logan finally going by his birth name? James Howlett?
Right??! I was like "yess!"
His name was already referenced in the Wolverine origins movie - (so was the adamantium bullet), so it wasn't the first time.
Eh, I don't know, I guess it wasn't really supposed to be a good thing, his birth name must've reminded him of a lot of his broken and confusing family life when he was growing up. It really shows just how much he shed his superhero identity, and began to embrace just how sad and broken his life had become.
Honestly, I love how the movie's called Logan, it's like the perfect middle ground between the two; of his superhero and caring identity and the actual person he wanted to be.
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Fun Fact: Jackman said if FOX would give the rights of Wolverine to Marvel, he'd come back.....all he wants to be is in an avengers film.....apparently.
Fun fact : Logan was supposed to get erased by Thanos but he permanently keeps healing his desintegrating body, so much so that the reality stone breaks up and blows off Thanos's hand. This is how they defeat him :p
Well, I don't think Jackman will be in Avengers 4 now that Disney is completing it's purchase of Fox, but I would LOVE to see him and all the other X-Men in another Avengers team-up
That would be awesome to see him cameo in Avengers 4!
I really wanna see Spiderman and wolverine in a movie together lol
He said that pre-Logan, he went back on that after it premiered, since he thought Logan was a strong end to his time as the character and didn't want to undermine its impact
I can’t believe they left out the part where Laura’s first instinct was to shield Charles in the car when they were escaping, catching a bullet in the arm and then spitting it out. A moment of pure badassery and top-notch character development.
The comic books in Logan was really a genius idea. Logan believes they're all crap because most of it is made up but they have real meaning to the mutant kids. Those kids grew up in a lab and were treated like things. They learned about morality and heroes from those comics. Those comics gave the kids hope when they had none. So the lessons of those comics will carry very strongly with them.
That's what Eden was about. It was a place that was in the comics and didn't exist in the real world. But the kids believed in the comics and went to that place and created Eden themselves. That shows how even though the X-Men are gone, their legacy will live on and they'll still inspire future generations to fight for their dreams.
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KingOfMadCows actually they didnt create eden themselves, eden actually exists..
KingOfMadCows I thought it also very subtly separated Logan from the other X-men movies. "In the real world, people die." For me, that summed up what they had already told us: this movie is different. There are very real consequences that these characters have to deal with. To me, that grounded the movie more than make it silly.
I like to think it existed before they got there. At least a little bit of it. I don't know where else they got beds and telescopic binoculars in the small amount of time. Of course the workers could have put it there before they broke the kids out but then it still means it was there before the kids got there.
It's like in the comic, Cyclops was seen as the leader but in the films, he wasn't. I can understand why Logan would call comic books unfaithful and doesn't show the inner struggles of what the X-Men go through.
Laura is DEFINITELY a win in this movie. I don't usually like child actors, but Dafne Keen who played Laura truly impressed me with her strength and sass in Logan and I felt she was definitely on equal footing with Patrick and Hugh. She has all the badass-ness and power of Logan....and she can even kick HIS ass which was hilarious to watch....but at the same time, there was still a hint of a scared little girl who needed Logan to protect her. The only thing I wish I could have seen more of is Logan FINALLY having peace and forging a stronger relationship with Laura as his daughter.....for most of this film, I think he saw her as this annoying little kid that Xavier forced him into protecting, and it was only there at the end that I saw him really WANT to protect her. It killed me that I lost two of my favorite X-Men in this movie, but I actually do want to see if Laura's journey continues...maybe as the new Wolverine.
"- ... yeah so... thank you."
'"- De nada."
"- ... *YOU CAN TALK* ?!!"
Never really thought about but you’re right regarding Laura she did an amazing job
Its interesting, the character shift that comes in this film. Throughout the original trilogy, Prof. X has always been a surrogate father figure to his students and his team....and Logan and Logan respects him, even if he doesn't always agree with him. In this movie, that role has reversed. Prof. X is more the fragile child, struggling to hold on and Logan has had to become the father figure/protector. Then when they meet Laura, he doesn't bond with her immediately, but as they go deeper into their journey....and especially after Charles is killed, Logan finds himself becoming a father to Laura as well....and in the end the vision was fulfilled....he finally found peace and died with his heart (his daughter) holding his hand.
Kiss asses
@@jvelez5381 Ooh, here comes the edgy guy calling people out for having their own opinion of a movie!
I've watched Logan three times since it was released, but when this video reached the scene with Laura crying and calling him "daddy", I still teared up. This movie is truly an amazing achievement.
Agreed I thought I wasn't gonna tear up on all my repeat viewing and it still gets me James Mangold made a masterpiece
I think it’s the best comic book movie, all due respect to The Dark Knight
"NOT OKAY!"
"Murder lessons... and a parenting win!"
Lol
u forgot 100 wins, when logan took the serum and moments later u hear him scream: everytime u hear logans scream, u know shits about to get real!
yea no kidding...whoever plays wolverine next, because let's be real they're going to recast him sooner or later, the dude needs to have that kind of scream
disney is getting rights to use the x-men in the MCU. they're going to recast them all...it's inevitable they'll recast wolverine.
so what? sean connery played james bond for over 20 years and that character has been recast quite a few times. jackman is getting older he can't maintain that kind of body anymore. HE doesn't want to be in that kind of shape. wolverine his far and away the popular x-men character...if disney is adding the x-men to the MCU you bet your ass they're adding a new wolverine. nerdrage be damned it WILL happen. you can't be this dumb thinking they wouldn't recast him. they're going to recast all the x-men.
because it's common fucking sense...do you honestly think disney absorbing the x-men franchise will just never recast it's most popular member? seriously???
you're stupid....
If Jackman doesn't get nominated.... It's nearly June and Logan is still the best film of the year. Hugh gave the performance of his career in this. So brutal and heartbreaking. I don't give a fuck what comes out this year during Oscar bait season. I want Hugh to win.
It's not like Oscars matter all that much, but it would just be icing on the cake after an almost 20 year run and getting to do what many actors don't get to have: a proper ending to the character that made them.
Alex Love oscar bait?
have you seen the honest trailers vid for logan? they call up Reynolds and ask him to help find something to make fun of about it but he just says its a masterpiece and if hugh doesnt get an award for his performance, he'll find and burn every VHS tape of "crash" lolol even he cant bash it its so good
Cisco Blue, the films released in the fall (end of the year) so they're still fresh in peoples minds come awards season
Sadly, it won't happen. But does Logan really need any Oscars? This is the best comic book movie of all time that isn't directed by Christopher Nolan, whether the Academy recognizes that or not, is irrelevant.
best actor looks packed so far. from the three I predict:
hugh jackman for Logan
armie hammer for call me by your name
Daniel day-lewis for his upcoming film
The "don't be what they made you" scene makes me cry every time. I loved this movie. It was sad, but a great send off to wolverine and Xavier.
The best thing about this movie is that, just like the X-Men Origins: Wolverine Uncaged Edition game, it shows just how BRUTAL Wolverine can really be
Thanks for the awesome shout-out! We're huge fans of your channel, because we also love focusing on what's AWESOME about great movies!
and brows, a lot of brows
Can we get a philosophy of Logan too? :)
Soundtrack is under appreciated. Amplified every scene.
Hotel scene gave me extreme anxiety.
Logan and Laura going apeshit in the woods filled me with adrenaline.
Logan experiencing Xavier’s death made me tear up.
Can’t remember the last time a movie made me so emotional. Probably Lord of the Rings.
Lord of the rings has always made me tear up, wether it be sadness, hope, joy, or pure anticipation, even thinking about it makes me smile and tear up
If Hugh Jackman doesn't get a Best Actor nomination for this, I swear.....
obhatti If he doesn't the shits rigged
Chris Is Gaming SHIT RIGGED
You jinxed it, thanks a bunch.
He's not getting nominated. I'd love to see him get an Oscar nomination for this film, but the Oscars just don't nominate these films for these kinds of awards.
They did for The Dark Knight and that film compared to Logan are similar.
What I love about Xavier's death are the reactions. Laura reacts with a scream and anger while Logan reacts with an inability to understand what he's feeling. Laura's reaction is more adult-like and Logan's is more child-like. Great subtlety.
I went to the theatre to watch this film. It was packed and the crowd reacted...but they reacted...wrong. They desperately looked for something that made things happier than they really were. They searched for comic book hope instead of seeing real life torture. When Logan hit the truck with the shovel, the theatre bursted with laughter evwn though it was supposed to be a touching and unnerving moment. I went and saw the movie with my stepdad and he had a similar reaction. He kept coming up with these crazy fan theories that would work in a PG-13 Comic world, not in the R-rated real world. Logan is a film that exploits what we as an audience have grown accustomed to and exposed how it ACTUALLY is. You're not supposed to leave with hope or thoughts of the future. You're supposed to leave with the acceptance of the end and what led to that point. To take a page from Last Jedi, Logan didn't die in sorrow or in pain. He was finally at peace and got the sleep he always wanted. This movie is outstanding in everyway imaginable and will always be my favorite Superhero movie and is up there for my favorite movie of all time.
You're right, most American film watchers are seeking that happy feeling at the end. This movie breaks the cliche, which makes it outstanding! If it wasn't for the R rating for Deadpool and the mass box office sales, this movie could have easily been edited for a PG-13. It definitely would not have felt the same.
Well then it seems that your crowd is just a bunch of 5 year Olds in Adult bodies
They probably thought they were watching a mcu movie or something. Logan is definitely more bleak than most superhero movies, when u see an mcu you're expecting to get some laughs along the way. But Logan is so intense and emotional its definitely a game changer for superhero movies. Of course I love humor sprinkled here and there but I definitely wanna see more serious movies made like logan.
Definitely that happened to me in theaters to the number of little kids I saw was clear most of the audience wasn't going to get what this was about. And I am talking little kids like I was 14 when it came out my first rated r movie in theaters and I was sitting next to 5 year olds.
Nah. That was funny. Yes it was sad. But it was a deliberate transition from a peaceful shot to Logan beating up a truck with a shovel. What has the truck done? What will beating it up do? Nothing. It's supposed to be both sad AND funny. Charles swearing and sassily sticking his tongue out are likely a result of dementia-induced personality changes. But you laughed at those.
Okay, one very important win I think you missed.
The parallel between the water tower and Cerebro. Cerebro connected Xavier to the whole world, but the water tower, with its speckled light shining through, blocks Xavier from the rest of the world, the lights being a taunt to Xavier's former powerful self.
Xeth247. Man you are awesome to find that out. So glad that i was not the only one who noticed it
That's fantastically perceptive. I had never considered that, wow. Seriously, friend, you just blew my mind!
I'm honestly baffled nobody could figure this out. I thought it was the most hamfisted imagery in the film.
I am also sad that he didn't mentioned that the kids were being led by the one who had Magento's powers, continuing the chain of leadership
Didn't he have Avalanche's powers and DNA, or did the kids have a leader I didn't see?
You couldn't have chosen a better movie to do a cinema wins on. Bravo to you
17:12 I just love that scene so much. Everything is so perfect.
It's so adorably funny to watch Patrick's acting as Charles the old man staring at little kid mess around with his wheelchair, just like a grandpa watching his grandkid.
Even though everyone touts X-24 as Logan minus all of his humanity, the film very subtly calls that claim into question. He actually stands there and listens for a while when Charles speaks, as opposed to getting on with his mission immediately, and puts what looks like a comforting hand on his shoulder before he kills him. He doesn't attack Logan until Logan attacks him, in spite of being supposedly a being of pure berserker rage. Finally, his rage after Rice is killed seemed, to me at least, to be tinged with a hint of grief.
2wingo It seemed to me that X-24 was imperfect and was easily distracted, such as the farmers arriving at the house. He was sent to extract Laura, but Charles's words caught his attention. Then the Munson son and mom attacked him, and then he was briefly infuriated by the wife's shotgun blast, and then stabbed Mr. Munson when he ran upstairs. It's like when he saw Logan, he almost saw him as the older weaker model and didn't even see him as a threat. And after Caliban blew up the truck and knocked Rice down, it looked like X-24 was walking over to see if he's alright and didn't even notice when Logan came up to attack him from the side.
I make it even more tear reaching when Logan tells Xavier "It wasn't me", because deep down both he and us the audience know pretty well it is him, just another version of him that never got Xavier's help or friendship.
Daphne Keen.
Nothing else really needs to be said except that she was an equal to Hugh Jackman and fucking Sir Patrick fucking Stewart. Fingers crossed she has an amazing career. What an amazing performance by all 3 of them in equal measure.
I remember after release barely any reviewer talked about her performance. But people have started to come around since then, maybe it took them repeated viewings to pick up on her nuances. I loved her immediately. For example her lying in the grass shackled when X-24 and Logan fight, screaming like a captured animal from fear/concern for Logan and rage. Seems like nothing but told me more about her than her smiling at the dinner table.
I read somewhere that one of the things she loved most about the part was "getting to be a wild animal". You can tell she loved going all-out raging-bull in the film, which is so unusual for a child actor to get to do. They really capitalized on her strengths in directing it.
Absolutely. But we don't know the full extent of her acting range yet. It's been rumored she could be in a solo X-23 movie, but I'm actually afraid that she could be one of those bad examples of young actors getting typecast after this or burned out from the early success/stress. Or she'll be simply dumped into kid roles in some pointless Hollywood B movies that don't get her any recognition.
To be perfectly honest, somehow I hope this is her last time as the character, to give it more meaning. Finish school, learn a trade to have a fallback plan in case acting doesn't work out.
I'll be honest, I didn't really like that performance, but that could have been due to the writing for that character rather than the direction of the acting. But both aspects of her acting would have been fine if they didn't become a broken record over the running time.
doesn't she come from a family of actors
No win for the father turning around and shooting Logan? I thought it was one of the more interesting moments of the movie. Just me?
Nathan Holland I agree. It was very realistic. His entire family has been murdered and he's not going to tell Logan that he forgives him. Sad stuff.
It was good for sure
Damn yeah you're right.
That was great
Not just you. Should have gotten a win for that and not driving right through the fence
Everything great about Logan
Shows the entire movie
Logan summed up in one word: Pain. And I don't mean just physical pain, or pain in a bad way. I mean the subtle aches and pains of daily life that reminds us that we're alive, the dull throb of enduring self imposed loneliness. The sharp stinging pain of watching a loved one leave the nest and the pride you feel knowing they're going to do just fine without you, the slow grinding torment of feeling you've let down somebody you admire and look up to.
I first saw Logan opening night in a theater near my work, and had to drive home for more than a half hour afterwards, and it was just brutal. It left me stunned and silent, and I could tell from the sniffles in the theater that I was not the only man crying when the credits rolled. This movie is a masterpiece, and it deserves at the very least nominations for best actor (Jackman), best supporting actor (Steward), best supporting actress (Keene) and best director. I wouldn't be surprised to see nominations for some of the technical awards either, the cinematography in this film is absolutely stunning (as shown by the fact it works so well in both color AND black & white)
Great review, guys. Am I right in saying this is the highest win count yet in any of your films?
Brock O'Meles you hit the nail on the painful head. I had the exact same experience opening night. I brought my entire crew to see it the following day and we all shed a tear together.
I also agree this movie absolutely deserves several oscar nods, also deserves to win one.
Best adapted Screenplay anybody?
fuck you just made me teared up...
"Hurt", not pain.
Not sure how much you know about cinematography, but the cinematography in Logan is far from stunning. The direction was extremely flat and dull, I don't see how Mangold would deserve a best director nomination
The whole reason I became fan of superhero movies and comics was Wolverine. I watched Logan three times in theatres and cried everytime. I truly felt like someone I loved had died in real life. I would just randomly cry thinking about the ending of the movie in the shower. No joke. It destroyed me. No movie had this much effect on me.
Rosie Ale Same, agree, I was kinda tired of watching almost same typical superhero movie, until this movie which is great as TDK.
Rosie Ale his legacy not dead yet. We got lady wolverine now
Same mate
I am so glad I am not alone. I went in blind without a trailer or knowing the premise and this movie tore something out of my soul. The 15 or so people in the theater were all crying with me, such an incredible experience
Original spiderman movies were to me what wolverine was to you. This movie is such a masterpiece
Woah, I never imagined Cyclops would have written the X-Men comics in this film. Good work picking up on that!
where does it say that?
6:35 :)
Kyle Kingsland seems pretty obvious upon 1st watching to me. I actually think cyclops is in eden and will lead the new mutants with xavier's philosophy, maybe with emma at his side.
Either cyclops or Cable and this is the future he comes from in Deadpool. But its likely Cyclops would have been in the mansion when xavier had his stroke
TheEman11910 well i do understand we are talking new mutants as a film and it is cable... But i more meant a new batch of mutants not the new mutants who i always consider as xforce. Nevermind that the characters in the new mutants which cable becomes leader of are nothing like the group of kids entering eden.
That aside completely, i dont think its a given that cyclops is at the mansion, not if there is a schism. Spoiler alert, scott kills xavier in comics. I think having him publicly create/embellish stories is a perfect thing to drive him from the trusted circle of say wolvie, storm, beast and such. And it makes far too much sense for the eden nuggett to be real and he put coords in a story that could lead any future mutant to his side. Also its possible he didnt kill everyone at the mansion, just some, but obvious to all that logan is the one who can survive caring for xavier, and the schism could have been natural that way too. Either way was a feeling i had that scott would b in eden. Perfect way to segway to a completely new arch, lets not forget if he were behind it all, he would be old too, which is something we havnt seen before.
Anything is possible at this point. Logan paved a way for trying different things.
7:06 god imagine that you can't move shit, and Wolverine is moving closer to you.
It's just plain terrifying.
Watching this video again. Was the first time I noticed his eyes follow Logan
Every time I watch this I cry. I can't help it. Between seeing Professor X die, and Logan's "So this is what it feels like." At the end kills me inside. I... just can't... I love this movie it hits all the right strings but damn...
Also I love the dual meaning to Logan's final words. On one hand you can see it as This is what it means to love. Or this is what it feels like to die!?!? I mean its just so heartbreaking either way
George Thomas When he said that, I thought he meant, this is what it feels like to be human.
George Thomas i brought my crew of tough hardworking men to this, we all shed a tear together.
I was asking myself that question and i think he meant both.
I thought he meant " This is what it feels like to be called daddy"?
I think the whole point of the line was to leave it as a positive conversation topic for people.
after watching Logan in the cinema, I heard some guys saying it was just boring which is ridiculous. I thought it was a fantastic film
tom reeves I thought it was lacking compared to old man Logan the comics which hulk being a villain was much better plus I like logans death in comics better and prefer Daken over Laura so personally the movie was only a 85% for me
the only thing that got on my nerves was when Laura started talking, I would've preferred it if she didn't talk at all, it would've made her a stronger character in my opinion
tom reeves she talks alot in the comics. Plus they need make her feel like a daughter/person than a liability.
@reymart christian Cruz holy fuck that's a lot of wall-of-text. Paragraphs.
They're your friend.
"Her character was ruined the moment she talked"
shut the fuck up you act as if every single incarnation of Laura was a fucking mute
Stewart isn't exactly done with Xavier yet. He has expressed interest in Deadpool and more excitingly, Legion. Thanks for another great video, Wins.
David Dubbbs he said that he was
from what i've heard is that if he does do any roles as Xavier they will be camios.
he's said he will consider coming back for cameos and non-speaking roles. nothing is certain yet, except that right now he doesn't want to do any more prof X heavy plots. but then again, in a few years and the right amount of 0's , he'd probably have no problem playing Xavier again.
Patrick Stewart was so heartbreaking in this film. Really, the Academy had no reason not to nominate him for Best Supporting Actor.
As much as I loved it, I still haven't watched this film a second time.
I was 9 when the first X-Men came out, and basically grew up with Hugh Jackman an Patrick Stewart as Logan and Charles, and despite their flaws really look up to them as heroes.
Seeing the state they were in, but especially seeing them die was extremely rough; it felt like loosing some old friends.
][mperial Adept yeah this movie fucking hurt.
Wow...someone who gets it. I only watched this movie once and probably never will watch it again because seeing Logan and Charles die broke me. I cried for a whole week yo 😭
Alternative stary? No way! This ending is so realistic. We get to see two powerhouse heros show they are not invincible. We see how age and regret can really break us. This is a wonderful and realistic end to a fantasy genre.
Myles Schutte exactly, thank you. I don't understand people saying that they enjoy it more as "alternative story". If it is "alternative story", it just undermines the death of these characters and just takes away any emotion from it. Not every story has to end with beautiful happily ever after, that's not how real world works. This is end of these characters, you can't have an end in some alternative bullcrap.
Exactly. Though I can respect other people's opinion that they enjoy it more as an "alternative story", I personaly can't. What's touching me the most is that in the future scene in Days of Future Past, we can see all the characters seem finally happy. Then, we jump like 10 or more years later, to see THIS. I don't even have to see how the other X-Men died. All the subtle informations are enough. And they're touching.
It's realistic in OUR universe yes, but I think of it as an alternative story/universe because a) Professor X (or Magneto) probably would have noticed the drop off of mutants and investigated sooner and b) Alternative timelines are established in-universe and c) this movie, while a masterpiece in hopelessness, doesn't match the rest of the universe (in my opinion).
This isn't the true ending than any other "ending" to the story, as multiverse exists in X-Men and the greater Marvel universe.
Title should be everything *IS* great about logan
The only thing I didn't liked is the "exposition by cellphone"... Everything else IS great!
it's kind of a tradition by now so you can't really change it
Tomás Jarsun, but even that's just a nitpick for me. Plus, maybe the technology in 2029 is hella dope and all smart phones have built in editing apps (;
I even like the new quesalupa from taco Bell
Writing could've been better. Caliban and Pierce got shafted by the script, and they were easily the two most interesting new characters. Pierce's role got replaced by Dr. Rice, and honestly Dr. Rice should've been written out of the script and his traits should've been given to Pierce (would've made him much more interesting), plus Pierce had a really lame death. It would've been way cooler if Pierce was a scientist that had been studying Wolverine for years, and created X-24 as a result of his research, knowing that nothing can kill Wolverine besides himself. I don't know where I would take Caliban, but before he was taken he was a fascinating character, and after he was taken he got thrown to the wayside, ultimately killing himself. Would've loved to see his dynamic with Logan, Xavier and X23, or maybe something else entirely. Didn't really like the kids at the end either, I feel like they could've been written out of the script as well.
Ultimately the beginning of the film until they leave Las Vegas is exceptional, and after that, the rest of the film slowly started to go downhill. At least for me anyway.
I remember Jackman saying in an interview early on in his Wolverine career that he would always play the part of Wolverine "as long as his body could portray it, since he isn't supposed to age" ... I was wondering then how they could kill him off and make it actually sad, painful, yet beautiful... Then I get Logan like 20 years later and I got what I thought was impossible! Love this movie!
How did Logan failing to ram through a fence NOT generate a win?! :D
I KNOW! lol I loved that moment. an awesome subversion of a trope.
I was expecting one for the fence too! So funny
Did anybody else get a Last of Us vibe while watching this movie? I couldn't have been the only one. There's gotta be a name for this type of story arc, right?
Watch children of Men. Its what this movie was based off of. Also last of us was based off of it as well, amaxing movie on netflix rn
@@voom41 Children of Men, The Road, The Last of US, Logan, the post apocaliptic father figure/child road movie.
Found family, perhaps? I feel that this mimicked TLOU in the best ways. Both have an excellent tone/aesthetic, beautiful gore, and predictable albeit heart-wrenching plots.
Except Logan never killed people who were desperately trying to find a cure for a zombie apocalypse.
@@Lord_Numpty A cure that, if you gathered context from the artifacts, was probably futile anyways.
I was crying the moment he injected himself with the roids. I knew it was coming. 🙁
Yeah, the fact that he needed them was telling.Good movie.
In one happyish thought.
Imagine those in his prime?
Damn near unstoppable
@@heydoeradio7298 Injecting those roids in his prime? I don't think it will work since his healing factor is much stronger. Logan was not infected by any substance like alchohol, poison, tranq darts, etc due to his healing factor. Since he is very old in this movie and the poisoning, his healing factor is weaker so it doesn't do its job very much like during his prime.
@@amon8977 does Laura have adamantium?
@@mgway4661 Yes
" You are dying. You want to die, "
That was one of my favorite lines in the entire film and the look Logan gives here in that scene. It's a moment where, for as much as he doesn't want to admit it, that's what he wants.
Patrick Stewart went from playing this beautiful fleshed out character in a beautiful movie to playing a poop emoji in the emoji movie. I have very mixed feelings right now
TonioDoesGames f*ck the emoji movie- its all 8 year old jokes
I am dissapointed in Patrick Stewert. I will always know him is professor X, but an entire generation of kids will see him as the shit emoji.
I hear Patrick has like 4 lines in that movie. Doubt that'll have a big impact. Plus if we're lucky most of this "generation of kids" won't see that trainwreck.
Emoji movie got like 8% on rotten tomatoes. Anything under 10% MOST people won't find much light in.
its been dropping in ratings
literally one of the best movies of the year, and one of the best superhero movies made
Raiden Crow I agree
Logan - The movie that possibly made the Dark Knight look like a baby.
Agreed. Logan is the best super hero movie, Dark Knight best super villain movie.
Nope. The Dark Knight is still the best and most influential superhero movie. Logan is still top 5.
not really, plenty of movies already equaled or even outdone TDK. TDK definitely wasnt even influential.
Logan made me bust down in tears when I saw it in theaters. Every time I watch I still cry at his death scene
i will never forget i heard someone say 'i feel so empty' while we were all leaving the theatre
I'm going to be honest and admit to crying after watching Logan. As a 15 year old I've lived my entire life with Hugh Jackman as Wolverine and after seeing this movie it finally set in that he would never play Wolverine again and seeing as the very first superhero movie I can remember was the first X-Men and Wolverine has been my favorite character ever since I wouldn't help but cry even if it's wierd or embarrassing watching Logan die was just too emotional for me.
Wilner's wonderful world Don't worry, we all cried
Ashton FTW i had to punch a baby to feel manly again
Yup, we did.
Le Nörd are you vegan gains
Vanquisher i...dont follow
I didn't make that connection about the "dying with his heart in his hand" until you mentioned it. That was really crazy!
Daniel Ray Really?, it's all over the interwebs...
Daniel Ray
heard it in honest trailers 1st
"Daddy" = Waterworks ;_;
That plus the turning of the cross to look like an X. ;_;
Interesting bit of trivia about that: according to legend, when St. Andrew was sentenced to be crucified, he considered himself unworthy of dying in the same position as Jesus, and so requested that his cross be tilted down into an X position. Also, in some traditions St. Andrew is the patron saint of butchers, so...
He might be your father but he ain't your daddy.
THESERIOUSKNOB I understood that reference!
right when i saw this comment i felt the feel come right through me
9:42 and, to add to that, X-24 is dressed and his hair and beard are cut to look like Sabertooth! Basically representing Logan embracing the nature of his more feral and violent brother.
Been waiting for sins or wins to upload a video about Logan, I guess I know who I like more ;)
I don't even know if they could sin Logan.
Well you know jeremy and the gang are probably working on fifteen other videos besides a Logan one. I'm willing to wait.
AciDic BliTzz sup Justin
AciDic BliTzz I don't think there is anything to sin about Logan
fancy seeing you here
Cinemasins hasn't dared to touch this masterpiece
Shamus Quinn wont be many sins to hand out
I love his videos, but i don't want him to shit on this movie. Even if its nitpicky. This movie was amazing.
Shamus Quinn ....honest trailers did their 200th trailer with logan and....well, if you haven't yet, give it a look.
Anon Emus Even Honest Trailers didn't say anything bad about it. They tried to get deadpool to think of something but he didn't want to 'shit on the Jack-Man'.
+Shamus Quinn I am pretty sure , that they would do it , the coming week . After all , they also did " Iron Man 3 (2013 ) " for no reason at all . If this movie soes not have much sins , well , then they would just do this movie for fun . I really really love this movie , btw .
saw the title logan and dropped...nothing. its summer time and im fresh out of my first year at college. i am ready for these logan feels.
My favorite part about Dafne Keen is I'm pretty sure it said "introducing" before her name in the opening credits.
That would make this her film *debut,* and she absolutely killed it! (Also literally. Dem claw skills!)
Yup, she could really end up being a star.
I love the payoff of the "choo choo!" foreshadowing. Charles mentioning it while trying to calm down Laura and then it becomes instrumental to their escape.
So the theater near me "accidentally" released the movie 3 days in advance (it does for every major film) and i got to see it ahead of a lot of people and i have to say that this was the hardest film to not talk about. Like i hate spoiling a movie, but i wanted to talk about this one right after, while not being able to. It was the best xmen film, hands down.
DAMN WHERE DO YOU LIVE I WANT THAT THEATER!!!
Daphne really impressed me with this film. I'm not normally a huge fan of child actors. Which is not to be callous or disregarding of the challenges they face, but most of them simply aren't believable. Maybe they have the latent talent, and maybe they grow up to be stellar actors, but very few people that age can act so convincingly. Kudos to her. Very convincing, very moving.
She's one of my top two or three
I love that this is the farthest from a traditional comic book movie in the best way, it keeps things incredible real and the comedy to a bare minimum. Definitely a masterpiece for me.
Ang Lee’s Hulk also counts.
idk if it was just me, but I was borderline about to cry at the end, but as soon as 23 grabbed his hand and said "Daddy ?" I fucking lost it.
Yep, me too
+Alexander Feldman I wasn't gonna cry til I got there. I was so depressed for that and the day after I saw it
that little girl ruined the movie for me she can not act at all but they had to insert her to appease the sjws and feminazis
J D V, haha!
+Exile Studios
Because that's all a strong female character is ever for, is that what you're saying?
I know the film claims he's more or less a mindless drone, but X-24 _does_ have one incredibly subtle "human" moment in the film, which is where he gets a kind of second wind against Logan after seeing the corpse of Zander Rice and roaring in what seems to be grief and anger. Coupled with Pierce urging X-24 to avenge Rice by killing Logan, there are some pretty clear implications that X-24 considered Rice his "father".
I also noticed how just because X-24 got his brain blown out doesn't necessarily mean he's truly dead. Like Logan, his brain will heal...and I guess the big chunk of his skull missing would grow back in bone, giving him one pretty severe weak spot in an otherwise indestructible body.
I dunno, make of that what you will.
Lol I can't believe someone else noticed this scene I didn't get why no one did
YayaFingerButters X-24 has a weaker healing factor because when he was rammed into the spikes his healing factor couldn't heal the wounds without the green serum so a major injury like this he probably won't be able to heal that so he is dead
YayaFingerButters I believe he was shot with the adamantium bullet so he's definitely dead
I think if the bullet goes cleanly through his skull then it would kill him, or at least it would seem like it since Wolverine seems to know that he would be able to kill himself with it and X-24's healing factor is some degree weaker than his healing factor in his prime. Wolverine's healing factor's strength has also varied greatly (I believed he completely healed from one drop of blood once), but in the x men movies I'd assume its at a point where there are very few realistic ways of killing him. I think its always been a thing that Wolverine's head/brain is his sort of weakness because he can be killed through decapitation (you'd obviously need a weapon made of adamantium to do that though). If the bullet destroyed parts of his brain, or almost completely destroyed his brain, I don't think it would heal, so he would die similar to any normal human being shot through the brain.
Right, the adamantium bullet would've killed Logan because his healing factor is failing. But X-24 is still in his prime, just like Logan was in _X-Men Origins._ If Logan could survive two or three adamantium bullets to the brain in that movie, X-24 can probably survive just one (granted with zero memories whatsoever).
I'm so glad when I watched Logan, it was at home on my own. The movie stabbed me right in the childhood, but in a strangely satisfying way. This was many icons of mine, entire years of my life, amazing actors who inspired me, saying goodbye. And it wasn't happy. It was brutal, there was suffering, no one got what they wanted. But it was fitting, and artful. I remember laying my head on the desk at the credits and just mourning Logan.
Dafnee Keen has quite quickly become my favourite child actor, between ‘Logan’ and ‘His Dark Materials’
For me too man. Am I the only one that feels proud of her? Like... I'm seeing her growing up and unleashing her acting gift. I'm so proud of this girl and I don't even know why
"Daddy" should have been a "Brutal", because for everyone's hearts, it was.
OKAY it was heartbreaking when Laura called Logan 'Daddy' but when she turned that cross into an 'X' I couldn't handle it. I was like "nope, fuck you FOX, why you do this?" and I sobbed. That shit 100% broke my soul.
Damn i watched 2 of ur vids now i see why ppl respect this channel far more than cinemasins great work man
LAte comment but this is exactly the feeling I've had for the longest time. Cinemasins is shit now, but Ccinemawins has their integrity, does their research AND actually seems to love what they're doing. Fuck Jeremy.
Aye don’t hate cinema wins and cinema suns are “2 opposite ends of the spectrum”
Cinemasins is a satire channel. You're not supposed to take them seriously.
@@brainrich1358 the problem with it is that there are some sins that they do that aren’t meant to be satire and are either completely wrong or just not a good sin. Either go full satire or be a actual critic channel like it used to be.
@@brainrich1358 Bullshit. Go watch some of Jeremy's legit movie reviews. There is a LOT of overlap between those and the content in his 'sin' videos.
He's just too bitch-made to admit they're genuine criticism, because he's a small-minded coward of a 'man'.
"Can' t wait to see what Dafne Keen will do next."
Kills it in HDM TV-series.
I have to say, All my life Wolverine was a big figure in my life, ever since I saw the first one in my early years and seeing some good movies and the fairly bad,
But I do want to say I like all of them for different reasons, even origins.
Watching this indestructible, unstoppable beastly man, kill Soldiers, Mutants, family and government was truly badass.
Seeing him now as this grizzly, old dying man who is in his final days holding onto life waiting for his rightful death.
Seeing this change made me feel upset and really bring the message that every hero dies,
But a quote I really did pick up in another movie,
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain,
And Logan literally saw the villain of himself kill his father figure and himself,
I'm glad he held onto what was a little bit of happiness in a lifetime of pain to let it pay Of with his daughter,
I will always see Wolverine aka Logan as my hero figure and know that he gave some of the best memories to ever give,
Logan you'll be missed, time to pass the claws on
TheKnightsOf Shadows u had me until "pass the claws" LMAOOO
Don't you feel weird when you realize Logan is OLDER than Charles
Holy shit I just I realized that mind fucking blown
Amazing dude. Amazing.
Not weird, but it does illustrate why I think father figure is the wrong phrase. We may feel he was a father figure, but Logan watched him grow up. They were equals, friends, brothers much like Charles and Erik. It was our visual perception of age that fed into the father figure angle.
0:48 ohhh those were metal shavings, I always thought it was glass shattering and wondered where it came from
I couldn't find anyone talking about out online, but that was my first thought.
CinemaWins you're probably right, it's the only explanation that makes sense
CinemaWins it's the chrome plating from the rims the guys were trying to steal and when they hit him with it the shaving flew as well
I'm pretty sure that's the flashlight the dude was using earlier in that scene. The shattering glass is the bulb.
I don't think it was the flashlight or the chrome plating. Before he makes contact you can see he's just holding a metal pipe
"...how the film treats us like adults. which is what you should be..."
*whistles innocently while remembering the trip to the cinema with 5 other 13 year old kids*
RagingGlory whoa what? i remember this being 15+ in the cinema i went to
@@ayden_james 15+? What a joke. There's a brief scene where Logan is giving some prom girls a ride, and one of them flashes him. That's automatically an 18+ rating (or R if you live in burgerland)
I must say as a daughter who always bonded with my father over comic books. And this being the first rated r movie I ever saw in theaters with my dad. This movie just holds such an amazing place in my heart. I am so glad this exists for me to relive it every once in a while
Those fucking wolverine screams are what truly takes Hugh's acting to another level.
Everything Great About Logan:
Everything. The End
You couldnt add one more win so it could be Logans age?
Seriously Cinemawins?
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Dog well played
Dog he’s older than that if you consider this the Logan from days of future past. In that case, he would have lived through the 70s twice
Wow. What an incredible and emotional ending to a beloved character. Maybe one of the most beautifully tragic deaths to a character I’ve ever seen. No one could ever desecrate this *body* of work and make me say *Bye Bye Bye* to the memory of Logan.
9:13 yes and also when he said "your the one who puts me to sleep"
'Let's make it R rated'
'What about the kids?'
'Fuck the kids'
AM I RIGHT?
what's great about Logan?
EVERYTHING!!!
OH YESSSS
..... Wow, i dont remember Spiderman 2 being this brutal.
Heavy .O And apparently it's better than this movie? No the hell it's not!
Sorry, it is. And the tragic thing about that is that I'm saying that as a long-time fan of Wolverine and ended up feeling almost nothing powerful about "Logan". I was just a mediocre, if really well-made movie.
PictureProductStudio Spider-Man 2 is literally mediocre compared to Logan and you didn't feel anything. You must not cry a lot. Me? Me and my wife cried and she didn't speak to me until the next day
Spiderman 2 has a puny 7.3/10 on IMDb
The High Functioning Sociopath, You know, "Logan" seems absolutely unrealistic and quite easy on the viewer after you've seen such great movies as Belgian "Man Bites Dog" (1992) as just one example. If I liked "Logan" lesser then you it doesn't mean I have no sense of critical thinking. It just plain means I was not as impressed. Probably because I've seen a lot of much better and gripping movies in my lifetime. "Spider-Man 2" is no masterpiece either, but it's much fair and complex to what it does and it has a large amount of surprisingly uncomfortable scenes. Nothing was as uncomfortable or gripping in "Logan" for me.