One of my main fears about getting older is not having enough money to move out, or that I’ll never be able to actually get a house for myself and I’ll have to rent forever. I’m lucky enough to have parents that have enough money so I’ll have something to fall back to if I can’t make it on my own, so I can’t imagine how it would be for people who don’t have the support systems I have.
Stigmatizing living with your parents is chiefly an American/white thing tbh. Everywhere else in the world it's normal to live with your family until you're able to be off on your own.
"American Dream" but it has its other holistic benefits too. There's much less nuclear families these days so it can be like going back to an abusive relationship. It can be hard to arranged company and potential romantic partners to come over around your parents, you limit your job opportunities because you can't move, etc. Also, another cultural thing is that your parents may still want you to help with rent. Cheaper rent but still rent. In that case it's like having a roommate but one with a power dynamic instead of a potential peer
Everything here is absolutely true. Most of what's "wrong" about living at home is completely fabricated, individualist, capitalist, classist, racist garbage. Its built up and calcified as a cloistering cave on our collective souls. You sell more power bills, homes, tools, and trinkets to single family detached households. It's even illegal to build anything BUT "single family detached homes" in massive swaths of our cities. (See Eco Gecko and Not Just Bikes for more on the blight that is suburbs) Humans have lived in extended and found families for way longer than we've been pretending that it's only one single, patriarchally defined unit. I have long thought that a huge reason boomers are so easily led down misinformation rabbit holes is that they are more isolated than any set of old farts ever have been. In many ways, it was their own making, but I think they've seen the most dramatic decline in social community in one generation we've ever seen. They never stop talking at the cash register? They're GD lonely! Plenty of other factors obviously contribute to the mental health of boomers, but I think the rapid capitalist isolation that's happened in their lives is pretty major. I just wish more could see that it's the corporate powers and not the red herring social issues. Wish I one hand and dookie in the other I guess. It's unfortunately much easier for them to believe an out group is causing all the problems than swallow the hard truth that capitulating to corporate interests via neoliberalism under the hollow "American Dream" promise didn't bear fruit. The power dynamic described is absolutely a problem inhibiting people. It IS possible to live with your family and find an equitable division of Labor and resources that benefits everyone, cuz we have indeed managed to as a species. But I think it's very difficult and there will always be a power imbalance. Just human effing nature in the relationship between parents and children. I dearly hope things get better about how we live because this ain't it.
"Where u don't pay in money u pay in mental health" LITERALLYYYY I can't be my gayass self in this house cuz I ain't tryna be homeless but I wanna buy some damn HEELS
I’m 23 and have failed to launch 3x with abusive relationships and a toxic relationship with my family. but that caused me to spiral into alcoholism and i crashed my car trying take my life 1 year ago. Moved back with my parents and have been sober for 8 months with a better relationship with my family then i ever. Saving money and figuring out my next steps while going to therapy and AA ❤
I wrote a bit of a trauma dump, so if you don't wanna read all this it's fine. But I'm super proud of you for taking charge of your health and sobriety. That's not easy, but it definitely helps that you're getting along with your family better. I have a similar story as yours. 26, failed to launch 3-4 times from a toxic family. Undiagnosed ADHD making it hard to stay in school or keep a job, anxiety made worse by my family, tried to take my life in 2020. 2 months later my grandfather passed. Then having to physically and mentally recover from that my injuries in the environment that made all my symptoms worse. Just this year was I able to be consistently employed and finish my degree (useless liberal arts degree haha) but still proud of myself. My relationship with my family has healed so much, but it's still not healthy. I've got a fire under my feet to move out, because I finally understand just how bad my mental health is when I live with my family. I blamed myself for being 'lazy' or 'sensitive', but I've just got different needs and my family will never be willing to accommodate them. It took so long but I finally feel I have the tools to stand on my own financially. I really hope you're able to live on your own terms and stay healthy while doing it. No matter how much progress you make in life, it's something to be proud of.💕
I’m so glad someone is saying the quiet part out loud. Living with your parents you have to tip toe around their lives so much and you have to schedule everything around them. Especially when they’re pressuring you to get your life together in your early 20s during extremely turbulent times when you don’t really know if you can manage on your own financially, mentally, physically etc.
Why do Gen z people feel like they’re the only people on the planet that came of age during hard times?? It’s one thing to complain but to have this mentality that yall are the ONLY ones who had to deal with this…like are yall ok 😭
I think if you’re a total introvert like me living alone is absolutely amazing. The hard part is having to take on the financial and physical maintenance of your apt/house by yourself. When you have more money, you’re able to go out to do more social activities which makes up for the lack of roommates/partner.
@@WinterWindEspecially if a partner from outside wants to live with them too... Either you get an additional roomate that might break the home/financial situation, or you might end up homeless because everyone moved out and you're left with a place you can't afford anymore 🥴
Introvert here too. Even compared to living with my loving, boundary-respecting family, I've felt the most at peace and clear-minded living alone. I can't even imagine living happily with a romantic partner in the same living space, which makes me unwilling to date right now lol
I love the responsibility of living alone!!! My apartment stays clean and how I like it for months!!! It's easy living alone!! Plus I get jobs that benefits me living alone ..... as a restaurant manager I get free food and lots more lol and I pay $700 a month rent (make good money)....$63 phone bill , gym membership $24 (LA. Fitness), $25 Internet/cable lol NY living (finger Lakes ... I get to go skiing, visit wineries often .I realize I'm living an awesome life ❤
It’s interesting how people tend to romanticise multi-generational or communal living in other countries. The truth is, families are made up of people, and people are people no matter where you are, some are introverts, some extroverts, some easygoing, some uptight. If you’re a type A introvert in a country where you’re expected to live at home until marriage, you might find yourself just as desperate to live alone as someone who’s in the opposite situation. It’s really more about personality than circumstances. As a millennial (non-American) at 30, I skipped the whole "moving out and wasting money on rent" phase to focus on saving for a house deposit, since houses here average a million dollars. It was a smart financial decision, and living with my non-toxic, upper-middle-class family has been a total blessing. At the end of the day, the best situation is always the one where you have the freedom to choose your living circumstances. Being forced into anything out of necessity or expectation can easily lead to resentment.
People need people, living with family in a large home or near a larger community in a small home is just ideal. The common suburban dream of each person getting a large manor does not work on any level (societal vs individual, economic, etc).
I completely agree. People used to live in an economy, with public services, that gave everyone options. Wanna live in a big city with roommates? You have that options. Wanna stay at home? You can. Wanna move cross country on your own before securing a job first? It's not easy but it's doable. Now every single system put in place is meant to make as much money as possible, putting human beings and autonomy over our futures last. I've wanted to move out of my family home since I was a teen but could never do that with the minimum wage and cost if living in Los Angeles. Even when I moved to cheaper states, I struggled because so much of my savings and energy went to paying for the move. Not to mention I'd gotten burned out from work and school so I could save for said move. By the time I got there, I couldn't even work to support myself. Back to my parent's house I went.
Rental companies buying up property and collaborating to price fix has made this problem way, way worse. “Living with roommates” may be less isolating, but “renting a room” is a very different thing and it’s become way more common. When you “rent a room”, you basically live in that room and feel like an intruder every time you need to use the kitchen. Nobody hangs out in the living room. It’s weird and it sucks. My roommates are nice people, but they would only know if “something happened to me” after several days of a foul smell coming from my room, and even then they’d only knock on the door after several more days. Maybe a couple weeks to actually walk in or call someone.
god i feel that thing with the kitchen, I’m so sorry you have to deal with it too- how did we get to this point where we cant even build relationships with people we live in the same house with? I wish I could be friends with my roommate but I constantly feel like i’m invading her space by just leaving my room
Damn, I thought that was just me not wanting to be perceived and honestly it does sound like you having that issue could be that too. Idk, I've never heard others mention it but maybe look up "fear of being perceived"
This is a side note but idk about anyone else but it feels like the more work experience I have, the harder it is to get a job. When I was 15/16 getting a job was EASYYYY about 10 applications and I’d hear back from at least 1-2. Now that I’m 19, having restaurant and OFFICE experience, it’s like nobody wants to hire me. Not even RESTAURANTS/FAST FOOD PLACES?? Idk if it’s cause they no longer “pity me” as a young teenager or if it’s cause they like “blank slates” but it’s so weird. Maybe times have changed so quickly but why was I able to get a job when I really didn’t “need it” but now that I’m an actual adult it’s HARD ASF to get hired ANYWHERE.
You started working during the Great Resignation, I assure you that does not represent the norm for getting a job. That was a once in a lifetime golden age for workers the likes of which hasn’t been seen since post-WW2.
I think it's interesting when people say living alone is a privelage when I think coming from a family with stable housing is a privelage. And coming from a family that will share resources with you rather then leaving you on your own at 18. Hearing stories online from people's whose families support them is so foreign to me.
I'm sorry but I'm confused about your comment. In the first half you make it sound like you don't understand why it would be a privilege for someone to live alone which makes it seem like You think Better for people to live with family. Sure that makes sense but then you say at the end that It's foreign to you to hear that people have support from family, which I'm guessing you just mean financial and not emotional support? Also why would it be foreign if you seem like that is your family dynamic and living situation?
@@jclyntoledoThe point is that as hard as living with family can be on average, it's still a MASSIVE privilege to have a safety net like that. Almost a quarter of current homeless people are from foster homes who were kicked out at 18, and honestly most young renters would be still living at home if it weren't for A. being kicked out at 18, B. abusive/unhealthy family or C. death in the family. I haven't been able to afford a car for over a year due to how insanely expensive renting is vs how much I'm able to earn and that's with two other roommates. If I had a healthy family I'd 10000% trade places and take the opportunity to save SOME money
I agree! Everyone should have the right to have a roof over their head, food on their table, and drinkable water at the vary least. It sucks that a price is put on things that should always be free. People and most animals usually die without food, water, and shelter. It’s not fun or easy to live without those needs met.
This!!!!! I totally agree with this statement. I’ve been saying this for years. Why are we paying to live on the Earth that was placed here for us to begin with? We’re literally forced into existence. We should have a place to stay.
It’s not a human right. Rights are inherent (the right to life, speech, and religion) but housing is a privilege; you have to earn it or work for it. That’s not to say ppl who can’t afford housing should be homeless, but if you make housing a HUMAN RIGHT, then it must be provided to them. That’s expensive and unrealistic, which is why most socialist countries fail bc in socialism and communism housing is considered a right, but it never ends well.
As a 35 year old who's been in and out of my parents house a bunch, I got my first apartment when I was 18 with my best friend and also my first (and only) eviction 😂☠️. My parents are the epitome of boomer and we spent the first 30 years of my life butting heads 😅, but now that I'm a whole adult and I'm a single childless waitress it absolutely makes more financial sense for me to live with them and especially because our relationship has drastically and dramatically improved and we're all a happy family now, my 94 year old grandma lives here too. Anyway I fought for y'all to stay at home, fuck roommates love and appreciate your parents while you have them.
😅girl that's wild. I'm 35 too and back at home and it's been mentally tough and draining I'm still happy to even have parents who are for 1 still around and 2 have it good enough to help me. I'm incredibly thankful for them and don't want to take them for granted.
considering that im a queer woman living in a very homophobic household...yeah, I'd rather live with a roommate if I were able to. having to put up a front for my life fucking sucks. Glad it's working out for you tho
I'm soooo grateful that I get along with my parents/siblings and that my parents are willing to let me live at home cause I've been job hunting for MONTHS with no success. If I had to live on my own I would for sure be struggling and unhappy.
Automation hasn't even fully kicked in yet and still the job market is in absolute shambles rn. So it's kinda scary to think about how the economy will look in a few years.
The housing prices are a nightmare for introverts. I'm an introvert living with a roommate and while things are going fine between us (we're not friends, but we get along), I'm looking forward to finishing my studies, getting a job and living all by myself. In a few months, I will go to another city for my mandatory internship. While I'm looking forward to that very much, I try not to think too much about the financial burden this puts on me since mandatory internships don't get paid despite working full time.
I’m graduating college a semester early, but it’s so hard to find a job. I want to move out too, but I need to save up money to do that. But to do that I need a job, which I’m actively looking for and I’m stressed. Plus it’s also just unbelievably expensive just for an apartment. Edit : I know I can’t move out right after graduation, but I need my own space. I want to be able to live on my own, especially before 25. (P.s I’m not asking for advice etc… This isn’t Reddit.)
Even when you get a job. I'd stay home for awhile. Pay your parents something. Improve your credit and save for a home. Get your parents on board. Show them the economy renting prices etc. You'll never be able to save anything with renting aka you'll never be able to buy aka never have a chance at retiring
@@CompCompProvided OP even *has* family, a decent enough relationship with them to be able to do any of that, or family that are understanding of the absurd rent costs. There are plenty out there that will lend their roof, but will: - Charge "rent" to the same price, making it basically pointless - Charge less "rent" but put you through astronomical abuse because you can't escape them financially - Ruin your credit while you're trying to build it up, especially if either party becomes an authorized user on a shared card
I know you don't want advice but finding a place is not hard if you just want the necessities. Having a place that is functionalble is different than having a place that is nice. If you go for something modest you can pay 800 a month
As a “”my grand parents where poor so my parents are poor so now im paying the price of being born into a poverty stricken household”” gen Z kid no lulu lemons or expensive disny trips or getting anything i want kid Imma say it like this YES I absolutely spend money on b.s now that i have a grown up job with a grown up credit card 😭but i always over pay my bills whenever im in debt i cant sleep im 21 born in 2003 I remember see my parents cry over bills and also seeing them not eat so i can during the 2008 recession It hard trying to be a “20 yr old” like how my parents were able to be “20 yr olds” they could go out with $20 and have an amazing time buy food go out and maybe shopping too now $20 doesn’t even fill up a tank of gas and on top of that i literally have to spend money to go out and by spend money i mean parking, gas, booth fees, gratuity, hidden tax on a fee that wasn’t disclosed, lets split the bill AT APPLE BEES type shit Gen z is poor because every thing has went up except wages and the only way not to be poor as a gen z kid is to work 7 days a week live with your parents no friends no girlfriend/boyfriend and absolutely no eating out ( ((because there’s no real insensitive to socialize in America )))and to grocery shop at the dollar general market and eat basically moldy food at least on till your 35 and hopefully JUST HOPEFULLY your 300k in your savings doesn’t turn into 30,000k because the house/car/livivg prices went up aswell as car payments at one point in time if you had 30k in your bank account you where considered rich RIGHT NOW 30k is a new roof, and rundown car, or a hospital bill Im 21 i have no friends i dont go out i share a room with my mom i pay bills and i rarely splurge now more than ever yet im broke ash because it is just too expensive to live and its way more expensive to live if you where born poor almost every single time i have extra money to save a new tire, a greedy landlord, a hospital bill, or just plain I haven’t eaten in 3 days requires me to dip into my savings
My parents are so poor they rely on my help for financial support and I can barely keep myself afloat! I feeeeeeeel this. When you have spent your entire life trying to catch up to people who just have enough money not to worry about money, you’re super disadvantaged when the economy takes a nosedive like this
@@ciiixthelxtus aye they want us divided but its like 70% of us born around that same time LIVING THE SAME LIFE and the only way we get out of it is community
As a geriatric millennial I’ve seen my own standard of living patterns (housing, personal care, savings rate) go backwards in the past 5 years. I can’t imagine starting out today, it be impossible alone and even with a roommate barely survivable. For example jobs I held in my 20’s starting salary range TODAY is only 10-15% more now than the early 00s. But the cost of an apartment in those cities is 2.5x+, grocery, insurance and car costs are 3-4x what I paid in the 00s for scale.
I’m also a geriatric millennial and I feel like I’ve been swimming against the tide my whole life. Went to college, work in my field but still can’t afford a car. 😑
I’m a good girl with morals🤦🏾♀️ but I’m about this close 🤏🏾 to starting an OF or something considering that I don’t have supportive parents, and the struggle is real out here😭
@@dodaprettygirlrockthe top ones make millions. Thinking anyone off the street could just take their clothes off and make millions of dollars is really naive. Reality is that most people feel like they're degrading themselves doing work like that and they hardly make anything to show for it. My ex gf was a stripper and doesn't think it was worth what it did to her mentally. People really gotta take pause before rushing into these things.
Im a young boomer/borderline x. I wish our culture could be open-minded about multi generational households. If my sons (in their late 20s) needed to move back i would welcome them. Getting expectations clear on both sides is crucial.
Young millennial here.. I lived with roommates until I was 25 and even then I lived in a barely habitable but very cheap basement apartment for two years. I can only imagine that it has gotten worse over the last 5+ years.
Because the majority of jobs might pay more in numbers of dollars but those dollars don't have near as much buying power that they used to. Also the cost of everything is multiple times more expensive than it used to be when the older generations were in their prime earning years.
I definitely had to disown my family of origin and particularly my birth brother for saying it was a choice that I wasn't making the money I needed to live. He said that to me, a gen zer, who graduated into a job market where recruiters have no antibias training and are looking for impossible candidates. I legit had 2 job interviews for a job that'd pay me $120000, but I got knocked out in the second round because I was too eager for connection...at a job...where I'd be working with other people...They're just making up new reasons to not hire folx and that's somehow my fault. And the fact that there's even 5 rounds for job interviews now is levels of insane that people aren't talking about enough. I had to turn to gig work and contract work that paid me PENNIES for roles that def deserved 5x more. We are living in impossible times and to blame an individual worker for that is levels of insanity I could not be a part of anymore. I'd love to know if other people have had similar experiences.
I have a degree and work in retail now. (Again. Right back to where I was before I had a degree.) Sometimes, you gotta just accept that if you can't get a job in your field, you can't get a job in your field. I don't think I would ever humor an employer who does 5 rounds of interviews. Maybe it's a trick. Maybe when at the end of the first round they say "well, you made it past the first round", they're looking for someone to laugh in their face and say "no, seriously, do I have the job or not? Because I'm not doing 5 rounds of interviews to just not be hired, so cut to the chase." Maybe after you say those magic words, confetti falls from the ceiling and they declare you their first hire in years because you're the first to understand the game they were playing. 😂 Just a thought...
I am back to school at 50 after never being able to get a salried job as a woman with B.S. plus extra post bacc. The lack of anti bias training is real. I work at the lowest level at my job currently and at a recent training I brought up internal bias and no one knew what it was🤦♀️and I work at a university😮
As a 34 yr old millennial who moved out of my parents house at 29, whenever I see gen z bemoan living with their parents, I always feel like "yeaaahhhhh... you're going to have to get used to that 😮💨"
you forgot to mention living out of a vehicle is also getting more common, while working from your computer. i personally think life will get better since electricity will get cheaper in a few decades. but maybe today we should focus on building community to save the living cost
The worst thing is how much renters have to do before even being considered. Proving we make up to 3x as much as rent (sometimes more!!) pay an upfront, non-refundable application fee, give away so much personal info … only to be ghosted half the time. I get landlords got nervous after so much unpaid rent in 2020 but now the renters who never did that are getting shafted which is just as unfair. I am able to have a place with a roommate right now but only because moving is very planned. Lots of looking in lots of different places until that “gem” is found. And the biggest of all: I don’t have kids or a car. Both have their advantages and disadvantages but I’m soooo grateful to have my own place. Parents say they get it but then ride your ass about “when I was your age.” It’s so hard surviving in this world. Not just thriving but just surviving.
My husband and I had to move back in with my family after falling on hard times two years ago. They’ve been nonstop asking what our plan is and when we are going to leave ever since. I do not have a good relationship with them and the living conditions are very bad, no properly working power and a lot of mold. I am not living here because I enjoy it. I am stuck here. This is my hell.
my parents were going to charge me to rent my childhood bedroom (and I was going to have a menty b if I stayed there another day) so I moved out. I have a roommate now (who ignored me for a month bc I didn’t say goodnight back to her while I was on a phone call). i’m ready to just eat it and pay all of my money to rent alone. but the idea of paying 2 grand to live alone when I grew up thinking it would be half of that is existentially depressing
It's only a blessing to live with your parents "IF YOU HAVE TO" for the time being...as long as you have a "healthy" relationship with them...if you have resentment towards your parents and the communication between you and your parents is "unhealthy?" then yes, it sucks living with your parents.
I live with my parents (one who is abusive) and im insanely lucky that I don’t have to pay rent, so i can focus on school and work, but it’s difficult to get any social interaction and support in bc many of my peers keep wondering why I don’t leave. Financially, even with roommates, it’s not feasible. It’s cheaper to stay home, even if the cost is also my metal health. My physical needs are met, and that’s what I find more important (while I try to keep my mind from tearing apart with the help of a therapist) than having independence. I’m also not quite mentally healthy to handle the full brunt of my adult responsibilities, so I’m just slowly building myself up until I can (hopefully) get to a point of independence and properly manage myself and a household of my own. I’ve been able to undo some of the mental scars I’ve accrued from childhood (even though the wound does keep getting reopened) and I know because my therapist understands my situation and is helping me cope in this environment, I’ll be able to handle the next phase of life… whatever it looks like. It’s physically safer to stay home even though mentally and emotionally it’s a combative.
I know that not every family is great, but I really don't understand the stigma that Americans have about living with your parents into adulthood considering that it's fairly common everywhere else in the world.
I'm in my early to mid-twenties, I live alone with my cat, dog, and snake. I have one job and I average about 25 to 30 hours a week. Monthly rent for 700sqft is about $1500, and I live just fine. I think the only reason why I'm doing just fine is because I don't have any school debt, and I only credit card debt is under 3K, also im putting into my 401k. I have a very social job so I'm happy to live alone and have my space. It's definitely possibly to make it on your own if you know how to budget. Also I hardly ever pay for groceries because I just eat at work lol
Damn, I relate to this so much 😢 legit things are difficult but I'm holding out hope for as long as I can. I gotta get outta my mother's house tho, its soooo draining 😫
There's hella stigma around trailer home but idfga I would definitely live in a trailer if it's in a decent area. I'm aware it won't be in the center of a city but a decent distance would do for me. Relatively cheap compared to stuff on the marker so no roommate and I could really make it into a home.
Being 1st gen i’m grateful I got to stay home, but my mental health is crumbling. I need privacy, independence, and a place to call mine! TT is stressing me out about 401k’s, IRA’s, saving, etc no one is offering any real expert advice! 😂😅
So glad I live in a city like New Orleans where community and community building is engrained in the very architecture here. Southern hospitality and front porch culture are perfect ingredients for forming community with the people who live around you! Most communities now are focused on living ALONE having a SINGLE family home. Our modern architecture is literally designed to be anti-community
i live alone after a breakup last January (we had a house together, so living in an apartment by myself has been an adjustment). it's so expensive living alone & i have absolutely no social life. i feel like i'm taking a major step back, but i'll be getting a roommate in the New Year. not only do i not have a social life, because i currently can't afford it, i am lonely & all of this has had a huge effect on my mental health.
So many Gen Zs just giving up before the game begins. If you don't live in California or New York buying a house and starting a family is just a matter of smart career decisions. If you are in California, idk how people afford to own a home. Best option is to leave the state unfortunately.
If I hadn’t of buying my first home in 2015 I would have not been able to be a homeowner. I feel so sorry for Gen Z because rent was still 500 when I finished college in 2012
I know this video mainly talks about Americans. As a 21-year-old Canadian, its much worse here in Canada. Everything has become more expensive than before, and with the whole mass immigration going on it has become a lot harder for most Canadian citizens to find jobs even a minimum wage job has become difficult for most people my age to apply to at least gain a little bit of money even if its just a minimum wage.
The same problems are in other countries like Germany. I'm 24 and currently doing my Masters. I have a internship that pays but not enough to move out. Even if I would share a place with other people, with current prices I would still have to pay more than half of my salary for rent. Additionally, as a very introverted person, the idea of living with completly strangers is very scary to me. So I don't really have another choice than to live with my parents until I finish my Masters (which I will probably finish, when I'm almost 26). My Parents don't pressure me to move out (my Dad is from Nigeria, where it is common to live in on big house as a family), but there is still pressure, because it is usually norm to already move out at my age.
Millennial here -- I lived with my mom up until 3 years ago when I moved in with my partner -- we got super lucky, because he actually purchased this house right before the pandemic and housing prices skyrocketed. I wish that everyone could have been so lucky because it is a STRUGGLE out there for people!
I'm 30+ and can't even get a job. I hear some ppl about there degree not meaning anything and they also can't find anything and anything they do find is just dead end stuff.
Shit man I feel *bad* as someone who didn't even bother with college, watching all these graduates struggle to find anything that pays nearly as much as what I do now ($23+ per hour). I didn't do it because the whole thing felt scammy, and I hate how it's being proven right. That should've guaranteed those folks a decent paying job like what we've grown up hearing about, not a bunch of floundering jobless people neck-deep in debt they can't pay off.
I see everyone say the economy is bad and that they’re struggling (which is true) but then there’s ppl who are living on $1k a month and so I’m letting go of thinking it’s impossible to do all the things I want cause life’s too short
This video popped up right as i was thinking about how much I hate living at home! My situation is a bit different from the average gen z-er because i couldnt even start working till i was 20 (and ended up more or less not working so I could look after my sister's kids). I couldn't really walk at 17 without insane amounts of pain killers (even then I was basically hobbling around everywhere) so im really behind the curve. It sucks.
I’ve wanted to move out since I was in my teens because I can’t stand living with my parent. Can’t be myself because of their conservative beliefs and I want to leave for my mental health along with wanting my own space. The reason we’re so broke is because everything’s prices went up but these wages haven’t. Not to mention the bar has been raised drastically for the same jobs because folks don’t want to pay people nor train people. A job that’s so easy a high schooler could do it now requires an associate degree. Jobs that required a degree by itself now require that + other certifications + experience just to get your foot in the door. I literally got rejected from an UNPAID INTERNSHIP because I “lacked experience”. “Entry level” at this point just means “we won’t pay you what you’re worth” because they require similar if not the same requirements as these other jobs that aren’t entry level.
I'm 37 and was able to afford rent on my own until the last 3 years when I ended up moving back in with my dad for the first time in 20 years because my rent went from $700-$1800. I also got sick last year which caused me to be hospitalized for a few days and have been having medical issues since then making it hard to keep a stable job. I lost a great job over the illness and they denied my unemployment even though they sent me a letter of termination while being on doctor's notice for sick leave. This last couple years has been pretty discouraging but I am grateful to have my pops.
So weird that this is a new concept to a lot of USA people, although even more difficult nowadays to rent or buy,this been the norm in my country for decades.
This is largely because the US is one of the wealthiest nations in the world, driven by high productivity. Few people anywhere really grasp that the median income in the United States is double that of relatively wealthy G8. countries like Italy. It just affords a completely different level of luxuries, one of the biggest which has been the expectation of being about to afford to live alone as long as you have a decent job.
@ I know that ,the USA is the wealthiest nation and most consumeristic in the world and that it takes a lot less annual salaries to buy a home there but not knowing about the concept is strange because the usa has immigrants from various countries with the same problems or similar problems they are facing now still most USA citizens seem to not know the concept, same for the “nuclear family ” besides a brief time in history the nuclear family with only one parent working ect is almost non existent in my country besides with wealthy people, in regular people household both men and women, my grandparents weren’t better financially compared to know they endured bread lines and eating one sardine and a piece of bread split with 4 people ect. That’s what i mean, inequality is higher in the USA still they have a lot of work opportunities because people there’s will pay for anything meanwhile in a country like mine although more capitalistic than before especially with the young generation there’s things that people wouldn’t outsource if you spend money it’s quite difficult to explain without living in it.
I'm a cusper Gen Z, Lead Aerospace Military Engineer and my moms said my checks not enough for relationships XD Also my company Raytheon is being sued for withholding engineering pay up to 40,000 ppl and limiting company mobility. Reasons all your planes falling apart when all our financial savings are. Feel lied to and no one wants to think this hard with this pay
Living with a toxic family is not good. I have had a very difficult time living apart but I have lived as myself. I now have a young adult son. We are working on buying a house together. We just probably can't afford to live seperately. But we will probably build an apartment which can be his bachelor space and then we can switch as I get older. I think we would both l Iike our own space but housing is so expensive My point is....flee if you need to! And....don't feel bad if you like staying with family, just can't afford to move, or want to focus on the positives of intergenerational living.
I just moved out about 2 months ago. I love it! I do hate paying for everything and sometimes wish i had money to go on vacation but I can say im truly happy right now. ❤
I have been living with roommates for 3 weeks now, and the rent is insane. But it's true what you said - I don't pay with my mental health anymore. Because of the holidays I will have seen my family a couple of times and boy, do I not miss everything going on at home. But the downside is that I now loan several hundred euros and when my study is complete, I will have thousands in debt.. So pick your poison.
I moved out at 18 and was homeless for a few months but was totally worth it! I found a lot of help by looking online. I had a luxury income restricted apartment that was $620 in 2020. There’s so much help but no one seems to know how to get it
I live with family and my husband and I have since we got married because rent was just too expensive for our wages at the time and I was still pursuing my bachelors degree. It is very hard on your mental health living with parents as an adult even when you have very good parents that you’ve always had a good relationship with, which I have always had with my parents, but at a certain age it’s just too much and you don’t want them knowing everything about your life anymore because it’s time to break away. My mom means well, but she’s very nosy. My husband did have an apartment when we were dating and I planned to move there, but the landlord refused to put me on the lease because I didn’t make enough money which doesn’t make any sense because we were getting married. So clearly I couldn’t stay there and the rent elsewhere was too high so he just moved in with my parents so we could be together. It’s really awful being married and living with parents, but it is worth it if you save your money. We’re closing on a 3000 square foot home with an in ground indoor pool on the 10th of December. We would have been able to purchase a home anyways eventually though with or without living here as our incomes have gone way up now that we both got better jobs, but probably not this nice of a home. All the gen z employees under me live ar home and say they are gonna do what I did and save for a nice home. Nothing wrong with accepting the help in this economy, no one really looks down on your when your single, it’s when you get married when they suddenly start looking down on you, at least that was our experience. No one looked down on me when I was 22 and a college student living at home till I was suddenly a married 22 year old and a college student living at home with my husband who didn’t make enough to pay for us to live.
Every time I've lived with someone else in my adult life, I've gotten financially abused. After all of that, I've found that it's legitimately cheaper for me to just live on my own than continue to pay 2-3X the amount of rent compared to my roommates. And I collect disability! That's just fucking sad! I legit can't trust people to just pay their fair share of rent anymore!
If America had more safe pay by hour hotels a lot of this culture would drop real quick. I’m 23 and have lived on my own since 18. I moved to California 2 years after my mom and now need her help to sustain myself out here. We would both be cool with staying in the same house if we had to option to do business elsewhere.
Currently 23, still live at home. Have tried to move out a few times and it just never worked. Making money has been rough, but I hope to eventually make enough to feel somewhat stable in life.
I remember when I was 6 I thought I was going to go out into the woods and build my own home because I didn’t fit in with people. For days I was doing a good job, but eventually my mom informed me that if I kept that up the school would call the state and the state would take my family like they did with my dad. Then I got older and found out about private property law. That’s when I gave up on valuing western rules beyond being left alone by Jakes. Colonizers have too many rules for me but not for thee.
I have noticed living alone became a luxury thing for younger folks. I’m a late millennial (92’) and like I’ve always lived alone but compromised on the apartments a lot. My spots have been borderline embarrassing, but that’s what I could afford so I just never had folks over. 32 and finally moving back up to a 1 bedroom, but I have a decent income now and also stayed frugal most all this time. Just starting to save for a home but the upside is I paid 40k in student loan debt off and no car debt at the moment. It’s not easy, not where I expected to be, but yeah… be frugal, have roommates , get out of debt and only then let up and have more fun with your finances. You’ll get through GenZ. It will take longer but be smarter than millennials. Just my two cents , I know it’s even harder now so stay home and then roommates is the key for you all.
Were I live you cant have "roommates" it has to be your legal partner in order to qualify to rent. Or you alone have to make three times the rent to qualify, so roommates arent an option unless two of the however many can qualify and then somehow get in the others, i get that's not super common but thats a thing in my city, and my parent and many others here make there kids (anyone above 16) pay them rent to stay "home", my bf is 19 and paying $400 a month to his VERY well off parents (they both easily make over 90k a year because they have government jobs) because hes an adult. I just really wanted to point out that living with parents if you're lucky doesn't cost money, but literally every single person i know who still lives with their parents is paying their parents rent. It sucks, i wish we could all be lucky enough for parents to not charge rent but not all of us have loving/caring parents in that way. I may have gotten slightly butthurt at the living with parents being free money wise statement😅
I’m moving out at 26. With roommates of course lol. I would love a place to myself but can’t afford it. I can fall back on my parents because they are aware that none of their kids can afford a house or even an apartment just for ourselves alone unless we move to a different state.
Here's a secret to having the best of both worlds. I haven't trialled it myself but I'm convinced it will work. MOVE NEAR YOUR FRIENDS. LIKE NEAR NEAR. Yes it'll be hard, yes it will take time and maybe cost more or put you in a less desirable neighborhood. But being with your friends will be worth it, and you can still live alone. But you'll be able to stop by them more easily. You can host each other more easily and help each other more easily because you're so close. I think a few streets away is ideal, but at least within walking distance or a very short bike ride is okay too. Most people in our cultures only take into account romantic partners and immediate family when they plan where to move. Historically this wasn't the case and that's because people used to understand that their community is important. You can build another one, but it's incredibly hard and takes time. And some people will never succeed. Why move away from your support network just because you can finally afford a house. A house that will be empty except for you and your spouse. Or you and your one kid because you can't have another one even if you can afford it, you don't have the community around you that would support you to have two kids. There's no one else there to pick your kid up when both of you are working. Definitely no one there to go to the nursery on one sidd of town and the school on the other. Move close to your friends, or better yet, stay with them. And TELL them this is what you're doing. They're more likely to reciprocate when they know that's something you feel comfortable doing. Give it a go. I bet it'll be great. I know I'm trying it as soon as I save up enough to move out of my parents house. I'm 32 by the way lol. Moved back post divorce. 😅
I definitely understand what Gen Z is going through. I'm a millennial and during the financial crisis in the late 2000s getting a job was hard and a lot of us were living with our parents in our young adult years. We used to call it "adulting" (I know its considered "cringe" now but that was a term we used humorously to describe our attempt to try to live the adult life our parents lived, but due to circumstance it was a struggle.) As a generation, we were just getting out of the hole until this new economic situation. The only good part about it is we experienced the original hole, so we are prepared for the next round. I also think the fortunate part about today than yesteryear is that the internet allows people to make money online. In the late 2000s there weren't online options when it came to making money. Even youtube was still kind of new. But now that online has become oversaturated, that can present its on set of problems. Hopefully things get better for you all. 🙏🏾
I always preface with “sadly” or “unfortunately” when saying I still live with my family. My parents have never taken great interest in my life and that is a reason why I don’t see a point in continuing to live with them. I am in my mid-twenties and feel disappointed in myself for still living at home and am embarrassed about it cuz I thought I’d be in a different place in my life by now. However, this mothertrucking American economy and work life system had other plans. I’ve made the excuse that my boyfriend nor any close friends are in the place to move out. I also am not crazy about the city that I live closest to 🙃 all this comes back to me being too afraid to take a leap and me not putting in consistent effort to find a place to move to as well as roommates. Rent is so freaking expensive - you gotta be making 6 figures to comfortably afford just a room in nyc
In the past 2 years alone I went from living with roommates of 3 years to living with friends, my dad, a “sugar daddy”, back to my dads, to my sisters, to an ex, to different friends, back to my sisters, then back to my “sugar daddy”, then currently with my mom 💀 a lot of it is me! But the economy doesn’t make it easier 😭
I wish living with my Parents was free being demanded to pay premium by my Mum for little privacy, accelerated mental health decline, not much personal space and rarely any bloody peace and quiet. Can't even afford how much this Woman is asking for with cost of Groceries and my Medicine not that she'll listen wants me to be eternally broke unable to bloody move out at this point.
@KAye633 I pay for my own groceries is very expensive no thanks to cost of living crisis and wait just noticed mentioned that literally in the comment.
Living with (good) parents is good. Get 3 meals a day, a place to stay, someone who helps me with laundry. Yes I know I can do it all myself but damn does it feel good to have a bit of help with it. I know the stigma but I don't really care
@@KAye633 Yes, with the 12 000 surgery one of our dogs needed, 500 every here and there to help them with the bills NOT because it's some contract but because it's right to help them out, also a few thousand here and there, helping out funding shopping and meals too. Here's the thing, they're good to me if they need help I will help them. Why? Because they treat me nicely
Honestly people may not want to accept it but this is spiritual. Independent times have forced us into a era where financial teamwork is needed by the majority now.... Another part of the economy is most guys do not spend so it does not stimulate the market in the lonely epidemic on both sides. Need more relationships as the the main heart of the market, ladies. do not have that extra finances to spend as they did in recent past. This is like when rich people have less, in a weird way they do not buy the jets and other high items that keep the market afloat (being 90% of resources of economy). Spending is actually needed at every level and not having access is impacting the market. Living with family for extended time helps but the purchases are not the same
going for a job that is "high demand" and pays well, however I am still in highschool and my family situation does not put ME in a situation in which I can get a job right now. a vicious cycle that puts me in a tough spot 99% of the time.
I think it’s also important for people to understand that sometimes living at home doesn’t always grantee that your going to be living there rent free For some living rent free is a luxury/privilege basically as soon as I turned 18 I started paying rent now granted i never had to worry about having the whole financial responsibility of paying rent on my shoulders because I have always split bills with my family but tbh I have never really been able to save money either because rent is incredibly expensive where I have thought about getting a roommate and moving somewhere more affordable but it seems like that’s becoming more unlikely these days I mean i live in LA and just to rent a room people are asking for 1200 a month and that’s not including splitting the utilities or other bills so sometimes living at home is way better than a roommate I’m saying all this to say if you can live somewhere rent free take that option and save SAVE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN
For some reason when I was younger. Every roommate I ever had was a piece of **** For some reason it would all go bad after a month or 2…. I only ever had 2 roommates that we became great friends. But you really have to be careful on Craigslist it’s dangerous out there.
Honestly don’t think I will movie out of my parents till I get married whenever that’ll be (I’m single lol) but I’m fine with that! My parents are the best and don’t charge me rent!
So you don’t help them at all with anything even though they don’t charge, the morally correct thing to do would be to help them out. They are living in the same economy as you…
The whole "living with parents" thing being seen as a negative is very much an American thing. Literally a majority of the world doesnt see it as frowned upon to live with family. Hell Families live with Families 😂. Even richer families in Mexico still live with each other because we value family unlike America which is why people are so disconnected here which in turn leaves them depressed
My biggest fear is growing up and failing in life lol not being able to succeed in my dream job and I’ll end up having to get some job working in a bar or working 3 different jobs just to barley get by I’ll have to rent forever and depend on my parents and I’ll end up being forgotten by everybody in my life and living a life where my existence doesn’t even matter plus spiders too
One of my main fears about getting older is not having enough money to move out, or that I’ll never be able to actually get a house for myself and I’ll have to rent forever. I’m lucky enough to have parents that have enough money so I’ll have something to fall back to if I can’t make it on my own, so I can’t imagine how it would be for people who don’t have the support systems I have.
Does the field you’re in have good progression? Most jobs you will earn more money the older you get
@@bdh711 a career?
Same here straight up
If you are under the age of 35 and aren't either independently or generationally wealthy, you we never own a home. Just like me
@@scottbuck1572buy an apartment instead of home, it’s not that expensive if you pay it with mortgage for 40 years
"It's Called the American Dream Because You Have To Be Asleep to Believe It" - George Carlin.
Carlin’s takes have aged like fine wine.
Facts
Stigmatizing living with your parents is chiefly an American/white thing tbh. Everywhere else in the world it's normal to live with your family until you're able to be off on your own.
"American Dream" but it has its other holistic benefits too. There's much less nuclear families these days so it can be like going back to an abusive relationship. It can be hard to arranged company and potential romantic partners to come over around your parents, you limit your job opportunities because you can't move, etc.
Also, another cultural thing is that your parents may still want you to help with rent. Cheaper rent but still rent. In that case it's like having a roommate but one with a power dynamic instead of a potential peer
Everything here is absolutely true. Most of what's "wrong" about living at home is completely fabricated, individualist, capitalist, classist, racist garbage. Its built up and calcified as a cloistering cave on our collective souls. You sell more power bills, homes, tools, and trinkets to single family detached households. It's even illegal to build anything BUT "single family detached homes" in massive swaths of our cities. (See Eco Gecko and Not Just Bikes for more on the blight that is suburbs)
Humans have lived in extended and found families for way longer than we've been pretending that it's only one single, patriarchally defined unit.
I have long thought that a huge reason boomers are so easily led down misinformation rabbit holes is that they are more isolated than any set of old farts ever have been. In many ways, it was their own making, but I think they've seen the most dramatic decline in social community in one generation we've ever seen. They never stop talking at the cash register? They're GD lonely! Plenty of other factors obviously contribute to the mental health of boomers, but I think the rapid capitalist isolation that's happened in their lives is pretty major. I just wish more could see that it's the corporate powers and not the red herring social issues. Wish I one hand and dookie in the other I guess. It's unfortunately much easier for them to believe an out group is causing all the problems than swallow the hard truth that capitulating to corporate interests via neoliberalism under the hollow "American Dream" promise didn't bear fruit.
The power dynamic described is absolutely a problem inhibiting people. It IS possible to live with your family and find an equitable division of Labor and resources that benefits everyone, cuz we have indeed managed to as a species. But I think it's very difficult and there will always be a power imbalance. Just human effing nature in the relationship between parents and children.
I dearly hope things get better about how we live because this ain't it.
Living with your parents in your thirties and late twenties is a sign of failure everywhere is the world regardless...
You obviously care too much about what people think about you. If you can do that...
Instead of being broke somewhere @understone86
@@understone86not anymore
"Where u don't pay in money u pay in mental health"
LITERALLYYYY I can't be my gayass self in this house cuz I ain't tryna be homeless but I wanna buy some damn HEELS
LMAOOOOO GURL
I HOPE you can get yourself someplace to be someday soon, and on that day celebrate with a nice new pair 🙂↕️
After winter sale let's get it Gurl
This is the only reason why I’m forcing myself to struggle cause I won’t survive in that house again even if it’s been a while
not heels.... the pain..
I’m 23 and have failed to launch 3x with abusive relationships and a toxic relationship with my family. but that caused me to spiral into alcoholism and i crashed my car trying take my life 1 year ago. Moved back with my parents and have been sober for 8 months with a better relationship with my family then i ever. Saving money and figuring out my next steps while going to therapy and AA ❤
I wrote a bit of a trauma dump, so if you don't wanna read all this it's fine. But I'm super proud of you for taking charge of your health and sobriety. That's not easy, but it definitely helps that you're getting along with your family better.
I have a similar story as yours. 26, failed to launch 3-4 times from a toxic family. Undiagnosed ADHD making it hard to stay in school or keep a job, anxiety made worse by my family, tried to take my life in 2020. 2 months later my grandfather passed. Then having to physically and mentally recover from that my injuries in the environment that made all my symptoms worse.
Just this year was I able to be consistently employed and finish my degree (useless liberal arts degree haha) but still proud of myself. My relationship with my family has healed so much, but it's still not healthy. I've got a fire under my feet to move out, because I finally understand just how bad my mental health is when I live with my family. I blamed myself for being 'lazy' or 'sensitive', but I've just got different needs and my family will never be willing to accommodate them. It took so long but I finally feel I have the tools to stand on my own financially.
I really hope you're able to live on your own terms and stay healthy while doing it. No matter how much progress you make in life, it's something to be proud of.💕
Omg I have a twin in tragedy
I’m so glad someone is saying the quiet part out loud.
Living with your parents you have to tip toe around their lives so much and you have to schedule everything around them. Especially when they’re pressuring you to get your life together in your early 20s during extremely turbulent times when you don’t really know if you can manage on your own financially, mentally, physically etc.
It’s their home and they pay all the bills, you have to schedule around them. That’s the perks of not being independent 😂.
Why do Gen z people feel like they’re the only people on the planet that came of age during hard times?? It’s one thing to complain but to have this mentality that yall are the ONLY ones who had to deal with this…like are yall ok 😭
I think if you’re a total introvert like me living alone is absolutely amazing. The hard part is having to take on the financial and physical maintenance of your apt/house by yourself. When you have more money, you’re able to go out to do more social activities which makes up for the lack of roommates/partner.
Yeah, being forced into living with people out of necessity or expectation is a recipe for resentment
@@WinterWindEspecially if a partner from outside wants to live with them too... Either you get an additional roomate that might break the home/financial situation, or you might end up homeless because everyone moved out and you're left with a place you can't afford anymore 🥴
Introvert here too. Even compared to living with my loving, boundary-respecting family, I've felt the most at peace and clear-minded living alone. I can't even imagine living happily with a romantic partner in the same living space, which makes me unwilling to date right now lol
Agreed. I don't need to live with someone to ease my loneliness, I need to live along to stay sane.
I love the responsibility of living alone!!! My apartment stays clean and how I like it for months!!! It's easy living alone!! Plus I get jobs that benefits me living alone ..... as a restaurant manager I get free food and lots more lol and I pay $700 a month rent (make good money)....$63 phone bill , gym membership $24 (LA. Fitness), $25 Internet/cable lol NY living (finger Lakes ... I get to go skiing, visit wineries often .I realize I'm living an awesome life ❤
It’s interesting how people tend to romanticise multi-generational or communal living in other countries. The truth is, families are made up of people, and people are people no matter where you are, some are introverts, some extroverts, some easygoing, some uptight. If you’re a type A introvert in a country where you’re expected to live at home until marriage, you might find yourself just as desperate to live alone as someone who’s in the opposite situation. It’s really more about personality than circumstances.
As a millennial (non-American) at 30, I skipped the whole "moving out and wasting money on rent" phase to focus on saving for a house deposit, since houses here average a million dollars. It was a smart financial decision, and living with my non-toxic, upper-middle-class family has been a total blessing.
At the end of the day, the best situation is always the one where you have the freedom to choose your living circumstances. Being forced into anything out of necessity or expectation can easily lead to resentment.
I’m in a situation that I resent
People need people, living with family in a large home or near a larger community in a small home is just ideal.
The common suburban dream of each person getting a large manor does not work on any level (societal vs individual, economic, etc).
@@Nersius People shouldn't hve to need people. Many people would be much happier living alone.
I completely agree. People used to live in an economy, with public services, that gave everyone options. Wanna live in a big city with roommates? You have that options. Wanna stay at home? You can. Wanna move cross country on your own before securing a job first? It's not easy but it's doable. Now every single system put in place is meant to make as much money as possible, putting human beings and autonomy over our futures last.
I've wanted to move out of my family home since I was a teen but could never do that with the minimum wage and cost if living in Los Angeles. Even when I moved to cheaper states, I struggled because so much of my savings and energy went to paying for the move. Not to mention I'd gotten burned out from work and school so I could save for said move. By the time I got there, I couldn't even work to support myself. Back to my parent's house I went.
agreed!!
Rental companies buying up property and collaborating to price fix has made this problem way, way worse. “Living with roommates” may be less isolating, but “renting a room” is a very different thing and it’s become way more common. When you “rent a room”, you basically live in that room and feel like an intruder every time you need to use the kitchen. Nobody hangs out in the living room. It’s weird and it sucks.
My roommates are nice people, but they would only know if “something happened to me” after several days of a foul smell coming from my room, and even then they’d only knock on the door after several more days. Maybe a couple weeks to actually walk in or call someone.
god i feel that thing with the kitchen, I’m so sorry you have to deal with it too- how did we get to this point where we cant even build relationships with people we live in the same house with? I wish I could be friends with my roommate but I constantly feel like i’m invading her space by just leaving my room
Damn, I thought that was just me not wanting to be perceived and honestly it does sound like you having that issue could be that too. Idk, I've never heard others mention it but maybe look up "fear of being perceived"
This is a side note but idk about anyone else but it feels like the more work experience I have, the harder it is to get a job. When I was 15/16 getting a job was EASYYYY about 10 applications and I’d hear back from at least 1-2. Now that I’m 19, having restaurant and OFFICE experience, it’s like nobody wants to hire me. Not even RESTAURANTS/FAST FOOD PLACES?? Idk if it’s cause they no longer “pity me” as a young teenager or if it’s cause they like “blank slates” but it’s so weird. Maybe times have changed so quickly but why was I able to get a job when I really didn’t “need it” but now that I’m an actual adult it’s HARD ASF to get hired ANYWHERE.
You started working during the Great Resignation, I assure you that does not represent the norm for getting a job. That was a once in a lifetime golden age for workers the likes of which hasn’t been seen since post-WW2.
@ damn really? 🥲🥲 thanks for letting me know that’s so unfortunate though
I think it's interesting when people say living alone is a privelage when I think coming from a family with stable housing is a privelage. And coming from a family that will share resources with you rather then leaving you on your own at 18. Hearing stories online from people's whose families support them is so foreign to me.
I'm sorry but I'm confused about your comment. In the first half you make it sound like you don't understand why it would be a privilege for someone to live alone which makes it seem like You think Better for people to live with family. Sure that makes sense but then you say at the end that It's foreign to you to hear that people have support from family, which I'm guessing you just mean financial and not emotional support? Also why would it be foreign if you seem like that is your family dynamic and living situation?
@@jclyntoledoThe point is that as hard as living with family can be on average, it's still a MASSIVE privilege to have a safety net like that. Almost a quarter of current homeless people are from foster homes who were kicked out at 18, and honestly most young renters would be still living at home if it weren't for A. being kicked out at 18, B. abusive/unhealthy family or C. death in the family. I haven't been able to afford a car for over a year due to how insanely expensive renting is vs how much I'm able to earn and that's with two other roommates. If I had a healthy family I'd 10000% trade places and take the opportunity to save SOME money
Housing should be free. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard for people to grasp as if it’s not a human right 😭??
Nothings free in a capitalist country 😕
I agree! Everyone should have the right to have a roof over their head, food on their table, and drinkable water at the vary least. It sucks that a price is put on things that should always be free. People and most animals usually die without food, water, and shelter. It’s not fun or easy to live without those needs met.
This!!!!! I totally agree with this statement. I’ve been saying this for years. Why are we paying to live on the Earth that was placed here for us to begin with? We’re literally forced into existence. We should have a place to stay.
It’s not a human right. Rights are inherent (the right to life, speech, and religion) but housing is a privilege; you have to earn it or work for it. That’s not to say ppl who can’t afford housing should be homeless, but if you make housing a HUMAN RIGHT, then it must be provided to them. That’s expensive and unrealistic, which is why most socialist countries fail bc in socialism and communism housing is considered a right, but it never ends well.
Labor isnt free and you need it to build a house you dumbfuck
As a 35 year old who's been in and out of my parents house a bunch, I got my first apartment when I was 18 with my best friend and also my first (and only) eviction 😂☠️. My parents are the epitome of boomer and we spent the first 30 years of my life butting heads 😅, but now that I'm a whole adult and I'm a single childless waitress it absolutely makes more financial sense for me to live with them and especially because our relationship has drastically and dramatically improved and we're all a happy family now, my 94 year old grandma lives here too. Anyway I fought for y'all to stay at home, fuck roommates love and appreciate your parents while you have them.
😅girl that's wild. I'm 35 too and back at home and it's been mentally tough and draining I'm still happy to even have parents who are for 1 still around and 2 have it good enough to help me. I'm incredibly thankful for them and don't want to take them for granted.
“Appreciate your parents while they’re still here” This isn’t for me this isn’t for me this isn’t for me 😅
@@ThymeofGhost unless you have shitty parents then fuck them lol
considering that im a queer woman living in a very homophobic household...yeah, I'd rather live with a roommate if I were able to. having to put up a front for my life fucking sucks. Glad it's working out for you tho
I'm soooo grateful that I get along with my parents/siblings and that my parents are willing to let me live at home cause I've been job hunting for MONTHS with no success. If I had to live on my own I would for sure be struggling and unhappy.
Automation hasn't even fully kicked in yet and still the job market is in absolute shambles rn. So it's kinda scary to think about how the economy will look in a few years.
the bare minimum is a pipe dream
yup
The housing prices are a nightmare for introverts. I'm an introvert living with a roommate and while things are going fine between us (we're not friends, but we get along), I'm looking forward to finishing my studies, getting a job and living all by myself. In a few months, I will go to another city for my mandatory internship. While I'm looking forward to that very much, I try not to think too much about the financial burden this puts on me since mandatory internships don't get paid despite working full time.
I’m graduating college a semester early, but it’s so hard to find a job. I want to move out too, but I need to save up money to do that. But to do that I need a job, which I’m actively looking for and I’m stressed. Plus it’s also just unbelievably expensive just for an apartment.
Edit :
I know I can’t move out right after graduation, but I need my own space. I want to be able to live on my own, especially before 25.
(P.s I’m not asking for advice etc…
This isn’t Reddit.)
Even when you get a job. I'd stay home for awhile. Pay your parents something. Improve your credit and save for a home. Get your parents on board. Show them the economy renting prices etc. You'll never be able to save anything with renting aka you'll never be able to buy aka never have a chance at retiring
@@CompCompProvided OP even *has* family, a decent enough relationship with them to be able to do any of that, or family that are understanding of the absurd rent costs.
There are plenty out there that will lend their roof, but will:
- Charge "rent" to the same price, making it basically pointless
- Charge less "rent" but put you through astronomical abuse because you can't escape them financially
- Ruin your credit while you're trying to build it up, especially if either party becomes an authorized user on a shared card
I know you don't want advice but finding a place is not hard if you just want the necessities. Having a place that is functionalble is different than having a place that is nice. If you go for something modest you can pay 800 a month
@@Mystic.ape.try finding something for that price in New York, LA, etc lol
As a “”my grand parents where poor so my parents are poor so now im paying the price of being born into a poverty stricken household”” gen Z kid no lulu lemons or expensive disny trips or getting anything i want kid
Imma say it like this YES I absolutely spend money on b.s now that i have a grown up job with a grown up credit card 😭but i always over pay my bills whenever im in debt i cant sleep
im 21 born in 2003 I remember see my parents cry over bills and also seeing them not eat so i can during the 2008 recession
It hard trying to be a “20 yr old” like how my parents were able to be “20 yr olds” they could go out with $20 and have an amazing time buy food go out and maybe shopping too now $20 doesn’t even fill up a tank of gas and on top of that i literally have to spend money to go out and by spend money i mean parking, gas, booth fees, gratuity, hidden tax on a fee that wasn’t disclosed, lets split the bill AT APPLE BEES type shit
Gen z is poor because every thing has went up except wages and the only way not to be poor as a gen z kid is to work 7 days a week live with your parents no friends no girlfriend/boyfriend and absolutely no eating out ( ((because there’s no real insensitive to socialize in America )))and to grocery shop at the dollar general market and eat basically moldy food at least on till your 35 and hopefully JUST HOPEFULLY your 300k in your savings doesn’t turn into 30,000k because the house/car/livivg prices went up aswell as car payments at one point in time if you had 30k in your bank account you where considered rich RIGHT NOW 30k is a new roof, and rundown car, or a hospital bill
Im 21 i have no friends i dont go out i share a room with my mom i pay bills and i rarely splurge now more than ever yet im broke ash because it is just too expensive to live and its way more expensive to live if you where born poor almost every single time i have extra money to save a new tire, a greedy landlord, a hospital bill, or just plain I haven’t eaten in 3 days requires me to dip into my savings
As someone also born in 03 you just described my entire life gang😭
@@ciiixthelxtusfelt too
My parents are so poor they rely on my help for financial support and I can barely keep myself afloat! I feeeeeeeel this. When you have spent your entire life trying to catch up to people who just have enough money not to worry about money, you’re super disadvantaged when the economy takes a nosedive like this
@@Patchouliprince im here for you 💪🏽🤎
@@ciiixthelxtus aye they want us divided but its like 70% of us born around that same time LIVING THE SAME LIFE and the only way we get out of it is community
As a geriatric millennial I’ve seen my own standard of living patterns (housing, personal care, savings rate) go backwards in the past 5 years. I can’t imagine starting out today, it be impossible alone and even with a roommate barely survivable. For example jobs I held in my 20’s starting salary range TODAY is only 10-15% more now than the early 00s. But the cost of an apartment in those cities is 2.5x+, grocery, insurance and car costs are 3-4x what I paid in the 00s for scale.
I’m also a geriatric millennial and I feel like I’ve been swimming against the tide my whole life. Went to college, work in my field but still can’t afford a car. 😑
@ 💕💕 yup I too have my own list of things I should have “by now” that I do not. I’m ok with it but should I be?
I’m a good girl with morals🤦🏾♀️ but I’m about this close 🤏🏾 to starting an OF or something considering that I don’t have supportive parents, and the struggle is real out here😭
Don’t
Feltttt. They make millions but I also don’t want to exploit myself on the internet
Just because you do OF doesn't mean you don't have morals.
@@dodaprettygirlrockthe top ones make millions. Thinking anyone off the street could just take their clothes off and make millions of dollars is really naive. Reality is that most people feel like they're degrading themselves doing work like that and they hardly make anything to show for it. My ex gf was a stripper and doesn't think it was worth what it did to her mentally. People really gotta take pause before rushing into these things.
Don't. Your value is worth more than money. Go to a place like a church and find a young guy.
Im a young boomer/borderline x. I wish our culture could be open-minded about multi generational households. If my sons (in their late 20s) needed to move back i would welcome them. Getting expectations clear on both sides is crucial.
Young millennial here.. I lived with roommates until I was 25 and even then I lived in a barely habitable but very cheap basement apartment for two years. I can only imagine that it has gotten worse over the last 5+ years.
Because the majority of jobs might pay more in numbers of dollars but those dollars don't have near as much buying power that they used to. Also the cost of everything is multiple times more expensive than it used to be when the older generations were in their prime earning years.
I'm 36 and have old classmates from high school who have moved in together this last 4yrs bc they could no longer afford to live alone
I definitely had to disown my family of origin and particularly my birth brother for saying it was a choice that I wasn't making the money I needed to live. He said that to me, a gen zer, who graduated into a job market where recruiters have no antibias training and are looking for impossible candidates. I legit had 2 job interviews for a job that'd pay me $120000, but I got knocked out in the second round because I was too eager for connection...at a job...where I'd be working with other people...They're just making up new reasons to not hire folx and that's somehow my fault. And the fact that there's even 5 rounds for job interviews now is levels of insane that people aren't talking about enough. I had to turn to gig work and contract work that paid me PENNIES for roles that def deserved 5x more. We are living in impossible times and to blame an individual worker for that is levels of insanity I could not be a part of anymore. I'd love to know if other people have had similar experiences.
I have a degree and work in retail now. (Again. Right back to where I was before I had a degree.)
Sometimes, you gotta just accept that if you can't get a job in your field, you can't get a job in your field. I don't think I would ever humor an employer who does 5 rounds of interviews. Maybe it's a trick. Maybe when at the end of the first round they say "well, you made it past the first round", they're looking for someone to laugh in their face and say "no, seriously, do I have the job or not? Because I'm not doing 5 rounds of interviews to just not be hired, so cut to the chase." Maybe after you say those magic words, confetti falls from the ceiling and they declare you their first hire in years because you're the first to understand the game they were playing. 😂 Just a thought...
I am back to school at 50 after never being able to get a salried job as a woman with B.S. plus extra post bacc. The lack of anti bias training is real. I work at the lowest level at my job currently and at a recent training I brought up internal bias and no one knew what it was🤦♀️and I work at a university😮
we're not broke anymore once we break the system
As a 34 yr old millennial who moved out of my parents house at 29, whenever I see gen z bemoan living with their parents, I always feel like "yeaaahhhhh... you're going to have to get used to that 😮💨"
you forgot to mention living out of a vehicle is also getting more common, while working from your computer. i personally think life will get better since electricity will get cheaper in a few decades. but maybe today we should focus on building community to save the living cost
im 26 have a full time job, so does my bf and we still can't afford a nice apartment bc DC area rent is insane!!!
The worst thing is how much renters have to do before even being considered. Proving we make up to 3x as much as rent (sometimes more!!) pay an upfront, non-refundable application fee, give away so much personal info … only to be ghosted half the time. I get landlords got nervous after so much unpaid rent in 2020 but now the renters who never did that are getting shafted which is just as unfair.
I am able to have a place with a roommate right now but only because moving is very planned. Lots of looking in lots of different places until that “gem” is found. And the biggest of all: I don’t have kids or a car. Both have their advantages and disadvantages but I’m soooo grateful to have my own place. Parents say they get it but then ride your ass about “when I was your age.” It’s so hard surviving in this world. Not just thriving but just surviving.
My husband and I had to move back in with my family after falling on hard times two years ago. They’ve been nonstop asking what our plan is and when we are going to leave ever since. I do not have a good relationship with them and the living conditions are very bad, no properly working power and a lot of mold. I am not living here because I enjoy it. I am stuck here. This is my hell.
my parents were going to charge me to rent my childhood bedroom (and I was going to have a menty b if I stayed there another day) so I moved out. I have a roommate now (who ignored me for a month bc I didn’t say goodnight back to her while I was on a phone call). i’m ready to just eat it and pay all of my money to rent alone. but the idea of paying 2 grand to live alone when I grew up thinking it would be half of that is existentially depressing
It's only a blessing to live with your parents "IF YOU HAVE TO" for the time being...as long as you have a "healthy" relationship with them...if you have resentment towards your parents and the communication between you and your parents is "unhealthy?" then yes, it sucks living with your parents.
I live with my parents (one who is abusive) and im insanely lucky that I don’t have to pay rent, so i can focus on school and work, but it’s difficult to get any social interaction and support in bc many of my peers keep wondering why I don’t leave. Financially, even with roommates, it’s not feasible. It’s cheaper to stay home, even if the cost is also my metal health. My physical needs are met, and that’s what I find more important (while I try to keep my mind from tearing apart with the help of a therapist) than having independence. I’m also not quite mentally healthy to handle the full brunt of my adult responsibilities, so I’m just slowly building myself up until I can (hopefully) get to a point of independence and properly manage myself and a household of my own. I’ve been able to undo some of the mental scars I’ve accrued from childhood (even though the wound does keep getting reopened) and I know because my therapist understands my situation and is helping me cope in this environment, I’ll be able to handle the next phase of life… whatever it looks like. It’s physically safer to stay home even though mentally and emotionally it’s a combative.
I know that not every family is great, but I really don't understand the stigma that Americans have about living with your parents into adulthood considering that it's fairly common everywhere else in the world.
I'm in my early to mid-twenties, I live alone with my cat, dog, and snake. I have one job and I average about 25 to 30 hours a week. Monthly rent for 700sqft is about $1500, and I live just fine. I think the only reason why I'm doing just fine is because I don't have any school debt, and I only credit card debt is under 3K, also im putting into my 401k. I have a very social job so I'm happy to live alone and have my space. It's definitely possibly to make it on your own if you know how to budget. Also I hardly ever pay for groceries because I just eat at work lol
I miss working in restaurants and eating for free 😭
Damn, I relate to this so much 😢 legit things are difficult but I'm holding out hope for as long as I can. I gotta get outta my mother's house tho, its soooo draining 😫
I cannot with roomate again; the only affordable option for me was a cheaper trailer park.
There's hella stigma around trailer home but idfga I would definitely live in a trailer if it's in a decent area. I'm aware it won't be in the center of a city but a decent distance would do for me. Relatively cheap compared to stuff on the marker so no roommate and I could really make it into a home.
Being 1st gen i’m grateful I got to stay home, but my mental health is crumbling. I need privacy, independence, and a place to call mine! TT is stressing me out about 401k’s, IRA’s, saving, etc no one is offering any real expert advice! 😂😅
So glad I live in a city like New Orleans where community and community building is engrained in the very architecture here. Southern hospitality and front porch culture are perfect ingredients for forming community with the people who live around you! Most communities now are focused on living ALONE having a SINGLE family home. Our modern architecture is literally designed to be anti-community
i live alone after a breakup last January (we had a house together, so living in an apartment by myself has been an adjustment). it's so expensive living alone & i have absolutely no social life. i feel like i'm taking a major step back, but i'll be getting a roommate in the New Year. not only do i not have a social life, because i currently can't afford it, i am lonely & all of this has had a huge effect on my mental health.
So many Gen Zs just giving up before the game begins. If you don't live in California or New York buying a house and starting a family is just a matter of smart career decisions. If you are in California, idk how people afford to own a home. Best option is to leave the state unfortunately.
I wasn't expecting that, but this actually made me feel a bit better about my current living and financial situation ❤
If I hadn’t of buying my first home in 2015 I would have not been able to be a homeowner. I feel so sorry for Gen Z because rent was still 500 when I finished college in 2012
I know this video mainly talks about Americans. As a 21-year-old Canadian, its much worse here in Canada. Everything has become more expensive than before, and with the whole mass immigration going on it has become a lot harder for most Canadian citizens to find jobs even a minimum wage job has become difficult for most people my age to apply to at least gain a little bit of money even if its just a minimum wage.
Let’s start with a big one: it’s nearly impossible to find jobs, stagnant wages, economy is shit, and lack of places to buy or rent
i love living with my mom.
The same problems are in other countries like Germany. I'm 24 and currently doing my Masters. I have a internship that pays but not enough to move out. Even if I would share a place with other people, with current prices I would still have to pay more than half of my salary for rent. Additionally, as a very introverted person, the idea of living with completly strangers is very scary to me. So I don't really have another choice than to live with my parents until I finish my Masters (which I will probably finish, when I'm almost 26). My Parents don't pressure me to move out (my Dad is from Nigeria, where it is common to live in on big house as a family), but there is still pressure, because it is usually norm to already move out at my age.
"Life sucks and then you die " - my dad.
Millennial here -- I lived with my mom up until 3 years ago when I moved in with my partner -- we got super lucky, because he actually purchased this house right before the pandemic and housing prices skyrocketed. I wish that everyone could have been so lucky because it is a STRUGGLE out there for people!
I would never live to be 25 and still live with parents that’s insane
I'm 30+ and can't even get a job. I hear some ppl about there degree not meaning anything and they also can't find anything and anything they do find is just dead end stuff.
Shit man I feel *bad* as someone who didn't even bother with college, watching all these graduates struggle to find anything that pays nearly as much as what I do now ($23+ per hour).
I didn't do it because the whole thing felt scammy, and I hate how it's being proven right. That should've guaranteed those folks a decent paying job like what we've grown up hearing about, not a bunch of floundering jobless people neck-deep in debt they can't pay off.
I see everyone say the economy is bad and that they’re struggling (which is true) but then there’s ppl who are living on $1k a month and so I’m letting go of thinking it’s impossible to do all the things I want cause life’s too short
As a gen Z girly I have given up on gen z MALES.
What about millennial males?
Good they don't care or want or need you
This video popped up right as i was thinking about how much I hate living at home! My situation is a bit different from the average gen z-er because i couldnt even start working till i was 20 (and ended up more or less not working so I could look after my sister's kids). I couldn't really walk at 17 without insane amounts of pain killers (even then I was basically hobbling around everywhere) so im really behind the curve. It sucks.
I’ve wanted to move out since I was in my teens because I can’t stand living with my parent. Can’t be myself because of their conservative beliefs and I want to leave for my mental health along with wanting my own space.
The reason we’re so broke is because everything’s prices went up but these wages haven’t. Not to mention the bar has been raised drastically for the same jobs because folks don’t want to pay people nor train people. A job that’s so easy a high schooler could do it now requires an associate degree. Jobs that required a degree by itself now require that + other certifications + experience just to get your foot in the door. I literally got rejected from an UNPAID INTERNSHIP because I “lacked experience”.
“Entry level” at this point just means “we won’t pay you what you’re worth” because they require similar if not the same requirements as these other jobs that aren’t entry level.
I'm 37 and was able to afford rent on my own until the last 3 years when I ended up moving back in with my dad for the first time in 20 years because my rent went from $700-$1800. I also got sick last year which caused me to be hospitalized for a few days and have been having medical issues since then making it hard to keep a stable job. I lost a great job over the illness and they denied my unemployment even though they sent me a letter of termination while being on doctor's notice for sick leave. This last couple years has been pretty discouraging but I am grateful to have my pops.
Better fight back in court for unemployment.
@mukaniwatkins2598 I currently am but it's been taking forever. Also trying to get on food assistance has been a big hurry up and wait game.
So weird that this is a new concept to a lot of USA people, although even more difficult nowadays to rent or buy,this been the norm in my country for decades.
This is largely because the US is one of the wealthiest nations in the world, driven by high productivity.
Few people anywhere really grasp that the median income in the United States is double that of relatively wealthy G8. countries like Italy. It just affords a completely different level of luxuries, one of the biggest which has been the expectation of being about to afford to live alone as long as you have a decent job.
@ I know that ,the USA is the wealthiest nation and most consumeristic in the world and that it takes a lot less annual salaries to buy a home there but not knowing about the concept is strange because the usa has immigrants from various countries with the same problems or similar problems they are facing now still most USA citizens seem to not know the concept, same for the “nuclear family ” besides a brief time in history the nuclear family with only one parent working ect is almost non existent in my country besides with wealthy people, in regular people household both men and women, my grandparents weren’t better financially compared to know they endured bread lines and eating one sardine and a piece of bread split with 4 people ect.
That’s what i mean, inequality is higher in the USA still they have a lot of work opportunities because people there’s will pay for anything meanwhile in a country like mine although more capitalistic than before especially with the young generation there’s things that people wouldn’t outsource if you spend money it’s quite difficult to explain without living in it.
I'm a cusper Gen Z, Lead Aerospace Military Engineer and my moms said my checks not enough for relationships XD Also my company Raytheon is being sued for withholding engineering pay up to 40,000 ppl and limiting company mobility. Reasons all your planes falling apart when all our financial savings are. Feel lied to and no one wants to think this hard with this pay
Living with a toxic family is not good. I have had a very difficult time living apart but I have lived as myself. I now have a young adult son. We are working on buying a house together. We just probably can't afford to live seperately. But we will probably build an apartment which can be his bachelor space and then we can switch as I get older.
I think we would both l Iike our own space but housing is so expensive
My point is....flee if you need to! And....don't feel bad if you like staying with family, just can't afford to move, or want to focus on the positives of intergenerational living.
I just moved out about 2 months ago. I love it! I do hate paying for everything and sometimes wish i had money to go on vacation but I can say im truly happy right now. ❤
Ooo this gonna be a good one 😭. Before I watch, I blame systemic exploitation😭😭😭
I have been living with roommates for 3 weeks now, and the rent is insane. But it's true what you said - I don't pay with my mental health anymore. Because of the holidays I will have seen my family a couple of times and boy, do I not miss everything going on at home. But the downside is that I now loan several hundred euros and when my study is complete, I will have thousands in debt.. So pick your poison.
I moved out at 18 and was homeless for a few months but was totally worth it! I found a lot of help by looking online. I had a luxury income restricted apartment that was $620 in 2020. There’s so much help but no one seems to know how to get it
620? what part? i need to leave
I live with family and my husband and I have since we got married because rent was just too expensive for our wages at the time and I was still pursuing my bachelors degree. It is very hard on your mental health living with parents as an adult even when you have very good parents that you’ve always had a good relationship with, which I have always had with my parents, but at a certain age it’s just too much and you don’t want them knowing everything about your life anymore because it’s time to break away. My mom means well, but she’s very nosy. My husband did have an apartment when we were dating and I planned to move there, but the landlord refused to put me on the lease because I didn’t make enough money which doesn’t make any sense because we were getting married. So clearly I couldn’t stay there and the rent elsewhere was too high so he just moved in with my parents so we could be together. It’s really awful being married and living with parents, but it is worth it if you save your money. We’re closing on a 3000 square foot home with an in ground indoor pool on the 10th of December. We would have been able to purchase a home anyways eventually though with or without living here as our incomes have gone way up now that we both got better jobs, but probably not this nice of a home. All the gen z employees under me live ar home and say they are gonna do what I did and save for a nice home. Nothing wrong with accepting the help in this economy, no one really looks down on your when your single, it’s when you get married when they suddenly start looking down on you, at least that was our experience. No one looked down on me when I was 22 and a college student living at home till I was suddenly a married 22 year old and a college student living at home with my husband who didn’t make enough to pay for us to live.
Every time I've lived with someone else in my adult life, I've gotten financially abused. After all of that, I've found that it's legitimately cheaper for me to just live on my own than continue to pay 2-3X the amount of rent compared to my roommates. And I collect disability! That's just fucking sad! I legit can't trust people to just pay their fair share of rent anymore!
I can afford a working thermostat but can't afford to turn the AC/heater on at all. At least I know when my house is at 84° and 43°
If America had more safe pay by hour hotels a lot of this culture would drop real quick. I’m 23 and have lived on my own since 18. I moved to California 2 years after my mom and now need her help to sustain myself out here. We would both be cool with staying in the same house if we had to option to do business elsewhere.
Currently 23, still live at home. Have tried to move out a few times and it just never worked. Making money has been rough, but I hope to eventually make enough to feel somewhat stable in life.
It’s a combination of the job market not hiring anyone, overspending (depending on the individual), and politics.
I remember when I was 6 I thought I was going to go out into the woods and build my own home because I didn’t fit in with people. For days I was doing a good job, but eventually my mom informed me that if I kept that up the school would call the state and the state would take my family like they did with my dad. Then I got older and found out about private property law. That’s when I gave up on valuing western rules beyond being left alone by Jakes. Colonizers have too many rules for me but not for thee.
I have noticed living alone became a luxury thing for younger folks.
I’m a late millennial (92’) and like I’ve always lived alone but compromised on the apartments a lot.
My spots have been borderline embarrassing, but that’s what I could afford so I just never had folks over. 32 and finally moving back up to a 1 bedroom, but I have a decent income now and also stayed frugal most all this time. Just starting to save for a home but the upside is I paid 40k in student loan debt off and no car debt at the moment.
It’s not easy, not where I expected to be, but yeah… be frugal, have roommates , get out of debt and only then let up and have more fun with your finances. You’ll get through GenZ. It will take longer but be smarter than millennials. Just my two cents , I know it’s even harder now so stay home and then roommates is the key for you all.
Were I live you cant have "roommates" it has to be your legal partner in order to qualify to rent. Or you alone have to make three times the rent to qualify, so roommates arent an option unless two of the however many can qualify and then somehow get in the others, i get that's not super common but thats a thing in my city, and my parent and many others here make there kids (anyone above 16) pay them rent to stay "home", my bf is 19 and paying $400 a month to his VERY well off parents (they both easily make over 90k a year because they have government jobs) because hes an adult.
I just really wanted to point out that living with parents if you're lucky doesn't cost money, but literally every single person i know who still lives with their parents is paying their parents rent. It sucks, i wish we could all be lucky enough for parents to not charge rent but not all of us have loving/caring parents in that way.
I may have gotten slightly butthurt at the living with parents being free money wise statement😅
I’m moving out at 26. With roommates of course lol. I would love a place to myself but can’t afford it. I can fall back on my parents because they are aware that none of their kids can afford a house or even an apartment just for ourselves alone unless we move to a different state.
Here's a secret to having the best of both worlds. I haven't trialled it myself but I'm convinced it will work.
MOVE NEAR YOUR FRIENDS. LIKE NEAR NEAR.
Yes it'll be hard, yes it will take time and maybe cost more or put you in a less desirable neighborhood. But being with your friends will be worth it, and you can still live alone. But you'll be able to stop by them more easily. You can host each other more easily and help each other more easily because you're so close. I think a few streets away is ideal, but at least within walking distance or a very short bike ride is okay too.
Most people in our cultures only take into account romantic partners and immediate family when they plan where to move. Historically this wasn't the case and that's because people used to understand that their community is important. You can build another one, but it's incredibly hard and takes time. And some people will never succeed.
Why move away from your support network just because you can finally afford a house. A house that will be empty except for you and your spouse. Or you and your one kid because you can't have another one even if you can afford it, you don't have the community around you that would support you to have two kids. There's no one else there to pick your kid up when both of you are working. Definitely no one there to go to the nursery on one sidd of town and the school on the other.
Move close to your friends, or better yet, stay with them. And TELL them this is what you're doing. They're more likely to reciprocate when they know that's something you feel comfortable doing. Give it a go. I bet it'll be great. I know I'm trying it as soon as I save up enough to move out of my parents house. I'm 32 by the way lol. Moved back post divorce. 😅
Friends come and go, family like it or not is forever.
@@santostv.speak for yourself. Nobody in my family fvcks with each other. It’s better finding income restricted apartments,or living with roommates
I definitely understand what Gen Z is going through. I'm a millennial and during the financial crisis in the late 2000s getting a job was hard and a lot of us were living with our parents in our young adult years. We used to call it "adulting" (I know its considered "cringe" now but that was a term we used humorously to describe our attempt to try to live the adult life our parents lived, but due to circumstance it was a struggle.) As a generation, we were just getting out of the hole until this new economic situation.
The only good part about it is we experienced the original hole, so we are prepared for the next round. I also think the fortunate part about today than yesteryear is that the internet allows people to make money online. In the late 2000s there weren't online options when it came to making money. Even youtube was still kind of new.
But now that online has become oversaturated, that can present its on set of problems. Hopefully things get better for you all. 🙏🏾
I always preface with “sadly” or “unfortunately” when saying I still live with my family. My parents have never taken great interest in my life and that is a reason why I don’t see a point in continuing to live with them. I am in my mid-twenties and feel disappointed in myself for still living at home and am embarrassed about it cuz I thought I’d be in a different place in my life by now. However, this mothertrucking American economy and work life system had other plans. I’ve made the excuse that my boyfriend nor any close friends are in the place to move out. I also am not crazy about the city that I live closest to 🙃 all this comes back to me being too afraid to take a leap and me not putting in consistent effort to find a place to move to as well as roommates. Rent is so freaking expensive - you gotta be making 6 figures to comfortably afford just a room in nyc
In the past 2 years alone I went from living with roommates of 3 years to living with friends, my dad, a “sugar daddy”, back to my dads, to my sisters, to an ex, to different friends, back to my sisters, then back to my “sugar daddy”, then currently with my mom 💀 a lot of it is me! But the economy doesn’t make it easier 😭
I wish living with my Parents was free being demanded to pay premium by my Mum for little privacy, accelerated mental health decline, not much personal space and rarely any bloody peace and quiet.
Can't even afford how much this Woman is asking for with cost of Groceries and my Medicine not that she'll listen wants me to be eternally broke unable to bloody move out at this point.
It’s her house, you think she’s going to feed another adult for free? That’s selfish.
@KAye633 I pay for my own groceries is very expensive no thanks to cost of living crisis and wait just noticed mentioned that literally in the comment.
I’m not an adult yet I’m an 09 💀 but I’m not excited to be an adultt
Realll I'm '11
I'm a teenager, shit's scary rn 😭
@ I’m a teen too (15) idk why they decided to screw everything up when it’s almost my time to be an audlt
i feel so sorry for my alphas :(
@ I’m not alpha girl I’m Gen z
Living with (good) parents is good. Get 3 meals a day, a place to stay, someone who helps me with laundry. Yes I know I can do it all myself but damn does it feel good to have a bit of help with it. I know the stigma but I don't really care
But do you even help them? Y’all are selfish.
@@KAye633 Yes, with the 12 000 surgery one of our dogs needed, 500 every here and there to help them with the bills NOT because it's some contract but because it's right to help them out, also a few thousand here and there, helping out funding shopping and meals too.
Here's the thing, they're good to me if they need help I will help them. Why? Because they treat me nicely
Honestly people may not want to accept it but this is spiritual. Independent times have forced us into a era where financial teamwork is needed by the majority now.... Another part of the economy is most guys do not spend so it does not stimulate the market in the lonely epidemic on both sides. Need more relationships as the the main heart of the market, ladies. do not have that extra finances to spend as they did in recent past. This is like when rich people have less, in a weird way they do not buy the jets and other high items that keep the market afloat (being 90% of resources of economy). Spending is actually needed at every level and not having access is impacting the market. Living with family for extended time helps but the purchases are not the same
going for a job that is "high demand" and pays well, however I am still in highschool and my family situation does not put ME in a situation in which I can get a job right now. a vicious cycle that puts me in a tough spot 99% of the time.
I think it’s also important for people to understand that sometimes living at home doesn’t always grantee that your going to be living there rent free
For some living rent free is a luxury/privilege basically as soon as I turned 18 I started paying rent
now granted i never had to worry about having the whole financial responsibility of paying rent on my shoulders because I have always split bills with my family but tbh I have never really been able to save money either because rent is incredibly expensive where
I have thought about getting a roommate and moving somewhere more affordable but it seems like that’s becoming more unlikely these days I mean i live in LA and just to rent a room people are asking for 1200 a month and that’s not including splitting the utilities or other bills so sometimes living at home is way better than a roommate
I’m saying all this to say if you can live somewhere rent free take that option and save SAVE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN
i’m 17 and never had a job and i’ve applied to like a billion places
I feel so blessed not to worry about these issues.
For some reason when I was younger. Every roommate I ever had was a piece of ****
For some reason it would all go bad after a month or 2….
I only ever had 2 roommates that we became great friends. But you really have to be careful on Craigslist it’s dangerous out there.
Nobody wants to hire .
I'm 28 and still live at home! At least I'll have a nice down payment by the time Im 30+...so definitely pros and cons
I am 30 with a Master’s and I live with my parents so yeah there’s that.
I think the relationships would benefit for more communal living
Honestly don’t think I will movie out of my parents till I get married whenever that’ll be (I’m single lol) but I’m fine with that! My parents are the best and don’t charge me rent!
So you don’t help them at all with anything even though they don’t charge, the morally correct thing to do would be to help them out. They are living in the same economy as you…
Fellow sag king 🤴
*sigh* why are we z'ers so broke
I am looking into moving back to my small home town at least the cost of living is somewhat affordable than metro areas like wpbfl
I currently live with family but I wanna live myself but then I decide not too because how expensive everything now is today
moving back with parents has been a good decision for my savings but when my whore ass self is in heat it suckssssss
The whole "living with parents" thing being seen as a negative is very much an American thing. Literally a majority of the world doesnt see it as frowned upon to live with family. Hell Families live with Families 😂. Even richer families in Mexico still live with each other because we value family unlike America which is why people are so disconnected here which in turn leaves them depressed
I like when you said “the state of the economy” and it’s b roll of Mexico City. 🥰
My biggest fear is growing up and failing in life lol not being able to succeed in my dream job and I’ll end up having to get some job working in a bar or working 3 different jobs just to barley get by I’ll have to rent forever and depend on my parents and I’ll end up being forgotten by everybody in my life and living a life where my existence doesn’t even matter plus spiders too