My 2021 Wrangler 4xe was having really bad wobble. The first thing the dealer did was change out the steering stabilizer. Didn't help at all. They then looked at all of the items on your list and it didn't fix it either. After some head scratching then started looking at the electric steering pump and found that the connector was loose / burnt. Replacing a wiring harness and the power steering pump fixed the problem. Total time in the shop was 28 days.
Thank you so much for doing this video! I posted in one of your other vids about my bone stock '21 Rubicon with just over 24k miles on it. It started the DW a few weeks back so I took it in and had the tires rotated, balanced, and aligned. That worked for about a day :). Funny thing is, the DW would trigger hitting a bump with a slight bend to the right, but after the mentioned work done, it now happens with a slight turn to the left. GRRRR! I realize this is all related to the solid front axel, but I honestly can't believe Jeep hasn't figured this out by now. It's my 3rd Jeep dating back to 1987. I understand they can't control aftermarket equipment causing this, but mine is stock and still has the issue - with relatively low miles on it. Super bummed. I have plans for this summer to get out and adventure here in Colorado, but I have to actually get to these places first. Just took it to Breckenridge (I-70) this weekend and had to just crawl along with the 18 wheelers to keep it from killing me, or others on the highway. I have an appointment at a Jeep dealer here locally next week, but I'm guessing I'm about to start throwing steering and suspension parts at it real soon. May start with Ball Joint Deletes.?.?.?
The suspension's shock absorbers might also be going 'out of spec'. It is worth having the shock absorber behaviour checked for each wheel. It can be tricky for a layman to know if a shock absorber is functioning properly or not.
balljoints was the cause of mine. PLEASE do a video on how crappy these are when they come off, I was absolutely shocked to see how loose and floppy they felt when compared to the replacement ones. I replaced the trackbar, draglink and tierod bar. Every single one of the stock nylon-bushing joints were shot....I was still in factory warranty and very upset I couldn't drive it. It took two weeks but I DIY replaced all of the parts which today still work great, steering is rock solid.
@@kabar23 aftermarket, I ordered everything from Synergy, except for the balljoints. I really didn't want it being the balljoints, because I didn't really want to take the axles off. Naturally, it was the balljoints. I had to take the axles off and buy a balljoint press. Worked great!
The stock components are light weight hollow tubing. This allows for a wide range of resonance within the system. Any loose - and by loose, I mean under torqued - component can start the system oscillating. A solid steel track bar will greatly dampen systimatic resonance. I would also add an aftermarket dampner. The stock one is barely up to the task to begin with. But, as previously noted any under torqued bolts will begin to oval out thier bushings, eventually leading to DW no matter what components you're running.
How many Wrangler owners have their suspension/steering bolts checked for correct torque after a pothole impact? If you are experiencing the Jeep 'Death Wobble' then it is sensible to check all of the bolts on the suspension and steering system to ensure that they are tight enough (and not too tight either).
Very interesting how as soon as you put 35's on you started to experience this. Would be interesting if you would do a video of the fix by the off-road shop. I think the 4xe is more susceptible to the death wobble issue because of the extra weight of the battery components. Good luck.
@@GoldenK9Campers They just called and said it was a tire balance issue. They rebalanced them. I’ve heard this is a common issue with 35s. They can be hard to balance for some reason.
I had it on my stock Sahara with 5k miles on it. They replaced the steering stabilizer and it was fixed, but since it was stock it was all warranty. They said it’s a newer version of the part, my Sahara was a 2021.
Hey, question for you; when you went from 33's to 35's did you have to lift it? Did you have to re tune your speedometer and guess o meter for mileage? Just wondering how the 4xe was affected by going up a size on your tires? Thanks, Pat
@@EverythingRVbyPat I had already done a 2 inch lift. I had my speedometer recalibrated when I went from the stock Sahara wheels to the Rubicon takeoff wheels. I put the 35s on the same rims that the 33s were on. I haven’t had the speedometer recalibrated to the 35s yet.
The Mopar steering stabilizer is a POS. I have a stock Rubicon and it blew out at 14k miles and death wobble was bad after hitting a pothole. Got the new one under warranty, but my next will be a Fox.
Ball joints, trackbar bolt torque..even tire imbalance can cause that shimmy
@@SubashCanapathy It ended up being a tire balance issue.
My 2021 Wrangler 4xe was having really bad wobble. The first thing the dealer did was change out the steering stabilizer. Didn't help at all. They then looked at all of the items on your list and it didn't fix it either. After some head scratching then started looking at the electric steering pump and found that the connector was loose / burnt. Replacing a wiring harness and the power steering pump fixed the problem. Total time in the shop was 28 days.
Didn't Jeep recall some of the Wranglers because of a fire risk in the power steering pump electrical connector?
@@maxgomila8209There is an investigation under way by the NHTSA but no recall yet.
Thank you so much for doing this video! I posted in one of your other vids about my bone stock '21 Rubicon with just over 24k miles on it. It started the DW a few weeks back so I took it in and had the tires rotated, balanced, and aligned. That worked for about a day :). Funny thing is, the DW would trigger hitting a bump with a slight bend to the right, but after the mentioned work done, it now happens with a slight turn to the left. GRRRR! I realize this is all related to the solid front axel, but I honestly can't believe Jeep hasn't figured this out by now. It's my 3rd Jeep dating back to 1987. I understand they can't control aftermarket equipment causing this, but mine is stock and still has the issue - with relatively low miles on it. Super bummed. I have plans for this summer to get out and adventure here in Colorado, but I have to actually get to these places first. Just took it to Breckenridge (I-70) this weekend and had to just crawl along with the 18 wheelers to keep it from killing me, or others on the highway. I have an appointment at a Jeep dealer here locally next week, but I'm guessing I'm about to start throwing steering and suspension parts at it real soon. May start with Ball Joint Deletes.?.?.?
Any chance some of this would be “fixed” under warranty? I guess that means they’d just throw Mopar parts back on it… hummmmm
The suspension's shock absorbers might also be going 'out of spec'. It is worth having the shock absorber behaviour checked for each wheel. It can be tricky for a layman to know if a shock absorber is functioning properly or not.
@@maxgomila8209 That’s an excellent point.
balljoints was the cause of mine. PLEASE do a video on how crappy these are when they come off, I was absolutely shocked to see how loose and floppy they felt when compared to the replacement ones. I replaced the trackbar, draglink and tierod bar. Every single one of the stock nylon-bushing joints were shot....I was still in factory warranty and very upset I couldn't drive it. It took two weeks but I DIY replaced all of the parts which today still work great, steering is rock solid.
Stock or aftermarket parts? I'm thinking the quality brands out there are a better fix.
@@kabar23aftermarket, I chose Synergy based on recommendations, I wished they would have sponsored me 😂
@@kabar23 aftermarket, I ordered everything from Synergy, except for the balljoints. I really didn't want it being the balljoints, because I didn't really want to take the axles off. Naturally, it was the balljoints. I had to take the axles off and buy a balljoint press. Worked great!
The stock components are light weight hollow tubing. This allows for a wide range of resonance within the system. Any loose - and by loose, I mean under torqued - component can start the system oscillating.
A solid steel track bar will greatly dampen systimatic resonance.
I would also add an aftermarket dampner. The stock one is barely up to the task to begin with.
But, as previously noted any under torqued bolts will begin to oval out thier bushings, eventually leading to DW no matter what components you're running.
How many Wrangler owners have their suspension/steering bolts checked for correct torque after a pothole impact? If you are experiencing the Jeep 'Death Wobble' then it is sensible to check all of the bolts on the suspension and steering system to ensure that they are tight enough (and not too tight either).
Mine has been repaired twice. I just got mine back last week for the second time. Seems like they fixed it.
I traded my 2018 rubicon with death wobble for a 2023 Bronco. So glad I switched, IFS is so much nicer and still really good off road.
Very interesting how as soon as you put 35's on you started to experience this. Would be interesting if you would do a video of the fix by the off-road shop. I think the 4xe is more susceptible to the death wobble issue because of the extra weight of the battery components. Good luck.
@@GoldenK9Campers They just called and said it was a tire balance issue. They rebalanced them. I’ve heard this is a common issue with 35s. They can be hard to balance for some reason.
I had it on my stock Sahara with 5k miles on it. They replaced the steering stabilizer and it was fixed, but since it was stock it was all warranty. They said it’s a newer version of the part, my Sahara was a 2021.
I just got this fixed on my 2022 with only 4K miles. It was a scary experience as it happened to me on the highway!
How did they fix it?
@ ball joints and stabilizer got replaced.
Hey, question for you; when you went from 33's to 35's did you have to lift it? Did you have to re tune your speedometer and guess o meter for mileage? Just wondering how the 4xe was affected by going up a size on your tires?
Thanks,
Pat
@@EverythingRVbyPat I had already done a 2 inch lift. I had my speedometer recalibrated when I went from the stock Sahara wheels to the Rubicon takeoff wheels. I put the 35s on the same rims that the 33s were on. I haven’t had the speedometer recalibrated to the 35s yet.
Just recalibrated with Jscan. So now my speedometer is right.
What trim do you have with the 35”s?
@@shaneh7519 It’s a Sahara.
The Mopar steering stabilizer is a POS. I have a stock Rubicon and it blew out at 14k miles and death wobble was bad after hitting a pothole. Got the new one under warranty, but my next will be a Fox.
The downside of a complex four-wheel-drive system...
How is it complex
@@flight2k5I think it’s mainly due to the solid axels. One bump effects components throughout the front of the Jeep.
@@dbldare he said it’s complex. It’s not
@@flight2k5ok
I’ve been there. Great explanation.
Ball joints + stabilizer arm
Try to balance your tires, that os your problem. You put 35 tire and it is difficult to balance
@@vladabajic7716 I’ve heard that too. They are looking at that and everything else today.
@@Wrangler4XEFans you will see, i had the same problem with mine. Ko2 is heavier tire and must be balanced well
@@vladabajic7716 They ended up finding a balance issue. Drove it on the highway back home and not a single wobble.
Auguri 👍🏻
When my car starts to do the death wobble, it means I have to change my tires