Volkswagen ID.7 First Drive Review: My New Favorite Road Tripper
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- I spent some time in the all-new Volkswagen ID.7 in Marseille, France last week. This video highlights my initial driving impressions, an overview of the vehicle's charging capabilities, and a quick stop at a DC fast charger.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:16 Behind the wheel of the ID.7
02:12 Interior comfort
03:27 The four different driving modes
05:15 Driving range and Volkswagen's software issues
08:01 Jordon from Out of Spec's opinion
12:26 Head-up display and driver's display, Travel Assist
15:35 Sound system and electrochromic glass roof
17:15 I stopped to DC Fast charge the ID.7 and recorded the charging session
23:56 Summary
30:20 Outro
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Great review Tom. This car is closer to my retired-but-not-forgotten 2006 Phaeton than I thought VW would ever get again.
I wish they would sell a version of the ID7 in a wagon form for the north American market.
They would sell in the dozens! Seriously, no one in North America will drive a wagon.
Auto manufacturers have stated in past interviews that wagons don't sell well in the US because most Americans like the lifted ride height and additional room that comes with a full on SUV unlike in other markets around the world.
A wagon is essentially a shorter suv more sleek and as spacious compared to some knock off SUV. People will drive them when they discover practicality meets utilitarian design.
Thats a winner for VW - they listened to all the criticism regarding the ID4 and ID3 and engineered it not only over it - this is the best in their class for now (well at least until tomorrow) at least as a family - company - drivers car. I have a higher budget - but this one would work for me too!
Looks like VW is getting back their engineering and design prowess. I’m glad consumers are getting more options to choose from.
Ooh, this looks like a nice gen 3 VW EV. I liked the id.4 and am looking forward to driving this. Need to replace my wife's aging 2017 VW Alltrack soon. I love all the European cab over semi trucks in the background.
Some beautiful scenery. Looks like a great place to road trip
The 3.0 SW for the ID4 is already much better and it is great that the 4.0 is another step forward. Frunks are overrated for me. Looking forward to this car besides the fact it doesn't qualify for the IRA.
I never open the rear windows on my ID.4. No problem!
The wagon version might sell better in North America for those that want additional cargo space and better access without moving into an oversized and overweight SUV. People don't buy wagons currently because there are very few compelling options, but an EV wagon could be more efficient and more practical than a typical SUV
The wagon would be the perfect electric replacement for the Outback that tons of owners are looking for!
@@BillAnderson1 agreed, Volvo and VW also made some great compact wagons that this could be a compelling replacement for
I just leased my 5th. VW ID-4 Pro S RWD. 1 week ago. I can not wait because I will be converting to all. VW. ID-7. Pro S. Can’t wait !!
Lack of one pedal driving is a deal breaker for me. Thanks for the detailed information you provided with the video. Enjoy all State of Charge and Out of Spec content.
B mode with AUTO HOLD is pretty close…that and all the other cool stuff should bring you back to the deal.
Two feet, two pedals.
@@kennethhandin5506 huge loss for you
I’ve been also a fan of one pedal driving. It’s true the be B-mode in Volkswagen comes close and I was comply happy with it. But over time I switched back to two pedal driving. I found it mir relaxing not always have to press my feed down and I’m way better in adjusting the rate of recuperation by using the brake.
I'm looking forward to charging scaling up for quick charge cells in the near future. An Amprius 6 minute 0-80% cell battery with 80kwh of capacity will need something like a 1mw charger to meet the average 640kw rate.
Can’t wait to trade in my 2023 Tesla Model 3 Performance for this as soon as it comes out! I’m missing real parking sensors and real rain sensors way too much. Also VW build quality is perfect with excellent fit and finish and panel alignment. We also have an ID.4 and love it. ID.7 is just amazing..
You prefer the ID.4 over the model 3?
@@nak8327 I personally prefer sedans over SUVs so yes. Both the Model 3 and ID.4 are great vehicles but the Model 3 Performance has much more power and much better sound system. The ID.4 on the other hand is more comfortable and has much more space especially for rear passengers. I’m happy for us having both.
Great review...while it is a Sedan is still a hatchback which is super helpful.
Yes I love it - all the talk about frunks I don´t care - but the hatch in the back is really good, also the EQS got it - drove it too and its so good!
Massaging seats in an EV. Elon says that is not allowed. Cost too much and no one uses them on a Lucury Tesla EV. It’s amazing how many luxury things all Teslas are missing.
Tesla may be priced like a luxury car and try to play in that market but they are far from a luxury car, just on cabin noise alone. What Tesla has is the best charging network (in the US). Otherwise, I always say that a Tesla may be priced at about $50k or so but it’s appointed like a $15k or $20k car, in my view.
Also the electro chromatic glass in the ID.7 is really cool. I can only recall one other car having that and that’s the Maybach 62, a car that costed over $400k new.
Taycan also has an optional electrochromic roof
Good review, thx!
Forgot about 2 things with public DC-charge.
1) Pre-heating of battery(finally)
2) you can also see in kW in the infotainmentsystem what you will get(raw no pre-heating) and 25min later when battery is pre-heated before arriving to destination and charger. Easier as a driver to manage my time and stops for longer routes
Thank you so much for the incredible review!
Thanks for this nice reviuw. I think this EV has great potential, really good work by VW
Oh boy! Quite nice. Hey VW, send a touring version to the US (hint hint… wagon!)
Southern France!! One of my favorite places!!
Beautiful car. Great review.
Tom, thanks for review. Can you convince VW to bring the ID.3 or e-Golf equivalent to the USA ASAP? I love my 2017 e-Golf but would be tempted by a similar more modern EV. I have pre-ordered the EX30 but need to see what the base spec provides in terms of features.
I dont think they will ever bring the ID.3 to the US - no plans its too small apparently. But the new GTI should get come over end of next year maybe? And it should be produced locally only. Also the ID.3 is falling back in terms of tech, they did not upgrade the drive train like for the ID.4 and also the interior, that speaks for a completely new ID.3 gen - probably 2025.
wow amazing car, i like it a lot! cant wait for it, great video!
Did I hear you all say this does NOT have one pedal driving?? Aside from that, with the bigger battery and awd, this is a very tempting vehicle. I'd even consider trading my current EV on this based on all the features you described as standard and if it has one pedal capability. Great review as usual.
It’s got a B mode, which will apply some regenerative braking, but it won’t fully stop the car.
I ll take this ID7 and raise you ID buzz ..we forecast 10 times the Sales..loved our test drive in EU this Spring
I can’t wait to put an order in for one, but I’m still enjoying my ‘21 ID4 pro s AWD.
Would be really interesting to see a head to head comparison between the ID.7 and the Polestar 4. Planning to move from the Polestar 2 in about 12 to 15 months.
Thats why they have amazing turning radius, no frunk ! 😉
Looks like VW is getting their act together. Three different TH-camrs who adopted ID.4s (Olsen Family Travels, OSR Garage, & E for Electric) all ended up dumping their ID.4s for other EVs. It seems like from your review, there is a great deal more deliberation in execution and they are going to be joining the market during a time where the likes of Volvo, GM, and Hyundai Group are all looking to take a piece of the Tesla pie. I wish them well and would actually not mind getting one if we could justify another purchase (which we can't). There are so many good EVs coming out. The EX-30, the Ionic 6, the Chevy Blazer, on and on. Thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching.
I'm sure the ID.7 is a nice EV, but Yikes! $55,000 for the base model RWD, estimated, of course, and $63,000 estimated for the Pro S Plus. Compare that with the Highland Model 3 RWD, estimated, $40,000. The Highland is so updated with much better suspension too. Plus you get full access to all the Superchargers. It still seems VW is still a step behind.
The ID.4 is a great car, hardware wise it’s well built, very comfortable, spacious and has good range.
The issue was the software with the 2021s which I know those TH-camrs cars had, personally I think E for Electric in particular was really overly dramatic about the whole thing to get more clicks, he’s done this in the past with other companies like Tesla.
The 2022 and 2023 models with software 3.1 are a lot better, and eventually 2021s got this update but it took VW a bit too long imo.
But now that the software is pretty good the rest of the car can really shine, it was always a good car hardware wise, and with improvements in 2023 with a faster charging battery that can go up to 170kW instead of 135kW, I think it’s a great overall EV that gets a bit too much hate because of its rocky launch.
@@777Outrigger Lets wait for the lease prices - which over here makes all the difference. The Highland is not really comparable to the ID7, there are 2 Highlanders fitting in one ID7 - so its a great price ;)
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 My biggest concern is that Europe is about to be inundated by cheap Chinese EVs. Tesla is profitable with their EVs even at the lower recent prices, and they will survive, and even thrive. VW and other European cars companies are not profitable with their EVs.. If VW doesn't get their cost of production down, they're gonna be in trouble. VW does not make profitable EVs even at their high price points. ...
I don't want the world auto industry to be Chinese, Tesla, and a few niché players. I'm actually pulling for VW, but they make a mistake getting rid of Diess. Diess pointed out that it takes VW 3 time longer to make an EV than Tesla. Yikes!
@@777Outrigger Model 3 is level bellow the ID 7. Can t be compared.
I would LOVE an electric wagon. Almost more than I love the ID Buzz. Hear that VW? There are potential consumers for a wagon in the US.
Americans don't buy station wagons. They are dead here, and they're not coming back.
Thank you for this nice overview
If you are/were in Europe, there are also some EV9s for test drives recently, is/was that on your agenda ?
Volkswagen was one of the fist company to offer a front trunk in the Beetle back in 30's now I hope that in the Canadian market they will offer a strip down version that would compete in price with the ID4 so it would give the choice of having a sedan or a SUV. because they tried to sell a expensive sedan multiple times like the Phaethon and the Arteon but the passat sold pretty good.
We want the wagon in Canada. Yes I'm the spokesperson for all Canadians..... 😝
You're the only one.
@@krane15 You are a wagon hater???
Small battery looks like a decent deal.
I just want a wagon/ big hatch (not one of the hideous SUVs that seem to be all we ever get anymore)
Good job Volkswagen
I would want the bigger battery, with RWD - which allows tighter turning circle. It won't be as good with an AWD. I want the coasting that VW gives us - one pedal is oversold, in my opinion. Coasting is more efficient - and you can always modulate the regen/braking with ... wait for it ... the brake pedal.
It has a very good turning circle.
Who let John out of the USA? Will they let him back in?
A great review and understanding of the subject matter
Front trunk really? A front trunk means that the hood is longer so that means less interior space for the same lenght. The rear trunk is good enough for me! A frunk is a market thing from Tesla.
Interesting car. Would've been great if they offered the wagon. I imagine it to be sized similar to a model S but with a lot more space. Too bad.
Oh yes, the wagon model, name "ID7 Tourer", will be launched next year.
They do, or will. But not for North America.
On other charging tests on the same event for instance car maniac charged from 0-80 in 29 min with a quite stable 178-170 w for a long period . In France you have to know the grid is not as stable as in other countries. Test shows that actually many cars havevthr tencdemcy to her higher peaks in Germany or Holland . Car maniacs test showed higher peak on a different 350w charger . The test suggests rather 2 x 15 min stops to charge for another 150 + miles instead of 1 stop as the peak holds stable for a while .
I didn't do it for a comprehensive charging review, I just wanted to show a quick look.
Won't this compete with the Audi A6 E-Tron price wise or just a little cheaper? Inside EV's reported that people can order the ID7 in the EU and the base rwd model is $61K USD when converted to dollars. The Audi A6 E-Tron will be built on the next gen PPE platform which would make the ID7 outdated since it is still on the older MEB platform.
This is the updated MEB platform - with new drivetrain, great UX a really good car, but still 400V - the PPE is the new premium platform for Audi, Porsche, Lambo - 800V, awesome drive train highly efficient and powerful, so a different category in terms of positioning and pricing. I don´t expect the ID.7 being a little cheaper but a lot cheaper then the A6
If you want a tourer (wagon version) send feedback and request to Volkswagen of America. They mentioned previously the more interest in a product the better the odds.
I have a similar selectable driving modes in a 2017 Lincoln MKX and really like it. I keep it in Comfort for normal driving but change to Sport if the road becomes twisty or I want greater control.
However, it is selectable by vertical buttons on the left side of the center stack that you can select by touch. I can’t imagine having to take my eyes off the road to to find it in some submenu.
The designers need to make driving mode selectable by voice. Voice recognition is almost universal in nav systems, why not in mode selection?
do the id7 have a heat pump to help with winter time range loss.....1pedal needed
I wish they would include the heat pump and heads up display in the US.
For a flagship something that basic and necessary should be included in the price and not an option.
0-60 I always think about 90s Supras and GT-Rs and 2000s Evos and WRX STis. “0-60 in 5s? Whoa that’s fast.”
As long as I have enough room. I don't care for a second trunk. I try to keep as little as possible in the car to make it more efficient. :)
It has a deep well in the truck.
If this will be built in Germany, the US/Canada will only get a few of them, similar to ID4 experience prior to manufacture in TN? Plans for future TN manufacture?
When you fast-charged the ID.7, did the car do battery preconditioning before charging? Or that was with the battery at the incidental temp?? Thanks for the quick look!!
yeah, if the car can't compute when to start pre-conditioning before a pre established charge point then again, Mainstreet is turned off, all software issues...
Ya!!! Jordan crashed the plaid, we know him 😂
That one way to become famous, or infamous 😊
The Tourer looks similar to the cx30, not sure why they wouldn’t offer it in the us
Having almost NEVER used the power rear windows in a vehicle from the driver's seat, I'm one of the weird ones that actually appreciate the deletion of two switches I'd rarely ever use in our 2021 RWD ID4. I set the HVAC to "AUTO" and haven't touched it since so not having the capacitive temperature sliders backlit was never an issue either. We really love our V-dub but if we do any trips further than 100 miles at a stretch, we take the Tesla, the charging experience with NACS is just that much better.
Before its release here in the US, I really hope VW finally caves in and adopts NACS. Otherwise, it's just not going to do as well. Great video! Thank you!
I agree. Two button is not an issue at all for me. What is an issue is no dedicated UNLOCK button like EVERY other vehicle has. The door unlocking system is problematic for me when it comes to wanting to put something in the back seat as I get in the car and that I now have to be chivalrous and always open my wife’s door for her otherwise she stands there (in the rain) while I fiddle around trying to unlock both my and her door from my side.
I think VW, owning the CSS laddened Electrify America network, will be challenged to either abandon their network or have to recable every charger. Why is NACS better than CSS anyway other than it gives you access to the Supercharger network?
@@tommason8104,
I haven’t experienced that because my wife also carried a keyfob and it unlocks if she gets there first. All 4 doors.
you can adjust that in the settings im pretty sure I have mine unlocking all 4@@tommason8104
Shame on the wagon option based on sales. Owned an ICE Focus wagon and very versatile. Liked the Madza, Volvo, VW and similar wagon versions.
Best guess for a mid high entry vehicle both rear and 4 WD with regular or longer range battery pack. $100 - $150k, $150 - $200 k, $200 - $250 k, all US $$$.
Features liked: lg 15" screen & infotainment capabilities, Heads-up display and virtual reality, response time; driving mode options, range, charging capabilities and battery management optimization, decent acceleration, lots of features included in basic trim plus maybe 2 more trim levels (sport, sport+); seat heating & cooling, many massage options; skylight options clear to l1 and l2, sound system.
A tiny bit off topic. I see Jordon has an older RODE mic and Tom has the latest. Which receiver is being used?
Great question! I have the RODE Wireless ME and a spare mic from a Wireless Go II. They can be paired together, giving the Wireless ME two different transmitters. So I had Tom wear one and I wore the other, and I had them setup to record on the same channel but you can also separate them.
I can't imagine it doesn't have one pedal driving when acc engaged. My updated '21 ID4 does.
Yeah I know Jordan. He is the Richard Hammond of Out of Spec.
The 35.75 feet figure at 29:25 in the video is certainly the turning circle and not the turning radius. The radius would be half of that value. It is an amazingly good value, much tighter than a Tesla model S, a Tesla model three which has a 38.75 feet turning circle.
Can you confirm if ID7 will be made in US at the Chattanooga plant? Thanks!
No, it will not be.
This EV sounds like a hit for Volkswagen, if only they got rid of that window toggle switch thing (what were they thinking?). It also needs one peddle driving, a frunk and the NACS. But does it include a spare tire? Cars really need spare tires again at least until airless tires are perfected.
If they can fix these things, this could be my next EV. I'm on my second Tesla and I'm kind of tired of FSD, so it really doesn't mean much to me anymore. And Tesla's up and down price changes gets frustrating. Don't get me wrong I love my Tesla but change is good.
Hopefully this reset their ability to sell nice sedans in the states after the Arteon's failure.
Please bring the sport wagon to the US
Does it really have instant torque? When I drove the ID.4, it had about 0.5 second delay from throttle input to maximum torque, mimicking a gas powered car, which completely undoes the benefits of having an EV. I bought a Tesla instead, because they really do have instant torque. So did they completely redo the driving dynamic from the ID.4 to the ID.7?
Electrify America (VW) uses CCS1, what happens if VW switches to NACS ?
They already announced they will install NACS plugs at all of their locations.
I'm sure it's a nice EV, but Yikes! $55,000 for the base model RWD, estimated, of course, and $63,000 estimated for the Pro S Plus. Compare that with the Highland Model 3 RWD, estimated, $40,000. The Highland is so updated with much better suspension too. Plus you get full access to all the Superchargers. It still seems the VW is still a step behind.
We don't have US pricing yet. But I've owned two Model 3's and I would take this over the Highland, personally, if the price was close.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Please note I said estimated price, from 'Car and Driver'. ....... You like a bad charging experience? And so many improvements in the new Model 3. Many have said it doesn't have a competitor especially at the price points it's coming in at in Europe and China. Reviewers have raved about it. .... Not only that, Tesla is making money on their EVs, and VW keeps halting production on their EVs. They seem to be balking, probably because of the money they're losing.
I think the only other EV I would consider is a Rivian (building their own charging network), and Volvo, going full bore with EVs, and not pulling back like VW. Quick to go to gigacasting and jumping on NACS as well.
I hope that VW leaves the amber indicators alone on the US models. I hate blinking brake lights and as petty as it sounds it's part of my buying decision.
100% agree and what helped guide my purchase decision (Polestar 2) was amber turn signals and a rear fog lamp.
How does it compare with Tesla Model 3?
The height is not just head room but a higher placement of the seats. Most EVs have very low seats especially in the rear making your knees point to the roof with little thigh support. Especially uncomfortable for taller passengers. Not offering a heat pump standard is just silly. I don't like the turquoises pipping. Its too polarizing and actually look cheap.
I happen to know from an insider at Volkswagen that they have 34 engineers working on a multi million dollar 6 year project on how to incorporate a 4 button window switch system. The results of this feasibility study are expected in 2037.
I heard that also, however before the engineers begin, they're awaiting results of a 5 year focus group study 😊
I always have to laugh when people complain about having to push a button twice to roll up/down rear windows. Most of my life windows were operated manually with a hand crank, so forget about rolling rear windows while driving, or even the right side front window. 😀
I’m laughing because my 2001 golf has 4 window buttons.
Exactly, I don't know why people complain, this can't be a big adjustment
It's unnecessary stupidity that's why.
It’s not because they are needed, it’s because VW is different from all the rest and people don’t like that. And now it’s vogue to express one’s dislike for the two switch model.
Tycan has a frunk
I do hate that DC buttplugg dangling on the side, scratching the paint. Just why would anyone design such a thing!!
If it is anythng like the ID4, it will dangle against the black plastic wheel well surround, not the paint.
eGolf has one pedal drive!
Station Wagons undercut SUVs which are very profitable for automakers.
Ugh, I wished it had an actual sunroof instead of a glass roof.
Dang, I need to get into the TH-cam car review game. Driving new VWs starting in a French Chateau, not very patriotic for a German company but surely nice.
Tesla could learn something about comfort from VW.
I am selling TSLA, they can’t compete with the heavy hitters
Guessing $71K MSRP 31:44
I think it will start at about $55K
In the US, an EV without NACS / Tesla network is a non-starter for a road trip car. VW is going to have to swallow their pride.
Actually which connectors you choose is irrelevant. It s about getting the best charging hardware. EA went with ABB that proved to be unreliable or at least some of their product do. In Europe the best providers have switched from ABB to other better brands like Trituim, Alpintronic, Kempower. But not least the service on those devices are also better in Europe at least for the well known provider because most of those devices being built in Europe. The only advantage of NACS for american context is the connector being slimmer actually.
@@jonpetter8921You don't seem to be following the news from the US very closely. The problems with the CCS charging network extend far beyond ABB and beyond Electrify America.
I do believe that eventually, the problems can be worked out. But for the next four years at least, lack of access to the Supercharger network would seriously impact VW sales.
@@davidmenasco5743
It s reliability issue.
In Europe CCS 2 is the standard. Even Tesla cars and Superchargers are mandated to be equipped with CCS 2 hardware only.
yes i do own a 2021 tesla model 3 but i was going to buy a ID4 but too many probelms with that car
No frunk & No trunk 😂😂😂
same size as model s so its wanted to be a direct competitor to it, less efficient than the tesla, smaller battery by a lot! but its a good family hauler and road tripper? ...and any non ev savy customer should believe this is competitive?
Drive a ID4 GTX(2021)in the northern part of Sweden.
Looking forward to ID7 GTX!
AWD and pre-heating before DC-charge (missing on 2021 ID4)are a must here.
The cockpit looks *first class* vs the ID.4 which felt very cheap to me. If VW can get their tech together, they can kick ass. Why must it take VW *years* to change window buttons? NOT very AGILE! _Get your shit together VW and join the 21st century!_ *Nice review!*
Not a premium car? Definitely a premium price for one.
Impressions from CCS-1 and CCS-2 charging experiences from watching a lot of road trips. CCS-1 at about 80% good experience, CCS-2 at about 95% good experience. NACS, about 99.9% good experience.
It depends which region of the world - you are talking US? Well there are some failures reported with NACS as well on those reviews, driving over here - CCS2? in Germany? - I don´t remember I had a failure, been a while.
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 NACS isn't perfect, it's 99.9%. Like I said before, I see some fails in European road trip videos for CCS-2 like Kyle had in this video. Of course, CCS-1 in the US is terrible.
@@777Outrigger Go to Norway, the best CC2 providers are as reliable as Tesla SC, and countries like Sweden, Denmark and Germany are also close to that trend.
@@jonpetter8921 I just saw Bjørn Nyland have to change charging stations on one his road tests because it wasn't working well. But I'm sure you've got charging in Europe better than CCS-1 charing in the US. And how about EG contracting to buy Tesla Superchargers? Tesla not only makes fast chargers cheaper, but the most reliable too.
ID7 will not qualify for the 7500 tax rebate. It will be made overseas.
It will if you lease it
Well if its successful it will be produced in the US too no doubt, but since its a sedan not a SUV ....
Not bringing the wagon over seems like a dumb oversight. It could easily masquerade as an electric SUV.
The one worth buying is the ID7 Tourer, like a big ID4. I don't even understand who the ID7 sedan is for. Toyota Crown buyers? The hatch is great but who buys large sedans anymore? It's too expensive to compete with Accord and Camry.
It has a geritol generation vibe to it.
The same horrible HVAC sliders as ID4, at least they backlit it so you can see it at night! No NACS charging, no one pedal driving, no frunk, no tax credit for purchase. So 100% of these will be leased, LLC or corporate. Look for cheap ID7's in three years when the leases are all up.
Do you understand who the Tesla Model 3, Hyundai Ionic 5, Polestar 4, is for? Same folks.
Meh. It's too bad VW isn't going back to intuitive, safer, and more reliable controls. Especially considering they are building something other than a crossover.
boooo.... Bring the wagon to the US... I would replace my Alltrack with one pretty quickly.
Speaking about the software , I think it’s about time to consider the fact that the much “ beloved” former VW CEO Diess , may have been replaced because of his software decisions.
Looks like Tom and co are enjoying their free all inclusive trip to the south of France. I prefer honest reviews myself. This review is so gushing in praise its making me ill.
In that case, I propose you take some Pepto and check out someone else's "honest" review. 😁
I have to ask this - Why would someone consider the ID-7 over the VW Arteon? The ID 7 has no frunk so no more room than the Arteon. It has less range than the Arteon and the base model ID7 will cost significantly more than the top of the line full spec Arteon. So unless you are buying this because you are a "tree hugger" I don't see this converting many people from ICE to BEV's.
The ID.7 is a bit bigger, a bit quicker, probably more quiet, there are fuel savings, the "tank" is always full in the morning if the owner lives in a house and it's more maneuvrable given the small turning circle.
“The best part is no part.” Therefore, capacitance seniors are not needed. They require parts, an wires, and computer software. With Tesla’s toque input it only requires 1 to 2 once’s of force on the steering wheel. That doesn’t require turning the wheel, you only need to rub the wheel softly. You should try it and see how lightly you can touch the wheel to get it to acknowledge your experience.
I know you are trying to encourage the purchase of cars other than Tesla cars, but stop lying about needing extra parts, and making misleading statements about Tesla!
I know you've been following me for a while, Robert, so I'm surprised you'd say "trying to encourage the purchase of cars other than Tesla". I don't try to encourage anyone to buy anything, really - at least that's not my intention. I just try to offer honest opinions here. It's not like I get a commission when a non-Tesla vehicle gets sold. :)
Tom, my statement (about trying to sell was more aggressive than I meant for it to be. I have always enjoyed your reviews, and will continue doing so. I have seen a number of reviews about how bad Tesla’s Full Self Driving Beta is with needing to turn the wheel, and the mistakes it makes while being used. But few (if any) comment on how much better it is compared to the other “driving assist” software.
Please forgive me, I didn’t mean to come across as harshly as I did with my comments.
Wish you would have dove into the GPS planning system as that was why I hate my id4. The road trip planning just sucked leading you to petrol stations and class 2 charges. I have to use an app on my phone so I don't run out of juice. Needless to say they're have been no OTA updates. Not one. VW Also just ignored us customers when we complained. For this and other reasons they have lost me and many others for life. If they expect to be forgiven for the id4 they are sadly wrong!
Any price over 42k is a non starter for mass adoption, I'm sure they will charge closer to 60k, just take the hit now, grow a huge base of support and reap the benefits later through mass production...but they won't...
No one-pedal driving really is a deal braker. VW, why?
1 pedal driving is the work of the devil
Needs 1 pedal driving. They want you to come in for some sort of service. Brakes!!!!