The only criticism I can give of Erebor as a faction is that Smaug's treasure is ignored. A new unique starting building simply called "Smaug's Hoard" would be a great inclusion to the game and in my understanding would be quite easy to include. It's sole benefit would be to provide a flat +1000 or so wealth per turn, whatever the dev team would consider to be fair. Indestructible building that gives Erebor a really nice starting boost, and gives enemy factions more encouragement to try and capture the Lonely Mountain.
Rob Alexander exactly, because it’s not like everyone just forgot about erebor after the battle, people where still interested, so that would be very good for lore reasons, great suggestion.
"As a human player you should be able to handle Gundabad quite easily." Meanwhile, in my study: OH GOD WHY WON'T THEY DIE?! THEY'RE LITERALLY NAKED! WHERE ARE ALL THESE ARROWS COMING FROM?! PLEASE HELP ME GANDALF!!!
@@lordoblivion8038 Saruman must've been absolutely raging. He spent 50 years breeding Uruk-hai and making super thicc armour for them only to literally get rekt by some trees. All he needed to do was make some regular orcs hang out in the snow for a while and they'd become immune to mortal weapons.
Yep, I lost erebor in the first ten turns, then made peace with them by giving them another city and then spent 200 turns grinding through rhun and didn't retake erebor until turn 400 from dale.
Yeah, their units at low tier are almost equal quality compared to yours, even infantry! And they sometimes even manage to recruit some orc avengers or more bolg's champions in the first turns so you gotta deal with some elite troops too while only having by that time only your generals and 1 or 2 Erebor Axeguards(probably just 1 in early game) and I am not sure if even the Axeguard could handle any of those units 1v1. The Axeguard lacks charge bonus and their attack isnt that great either, even their defense is not that good. And your bodyguards are just good because of high armor but since they dont have AP anymore they have lots of trouble against those 2 units that, of course, are indeed AP, have good charge and very high attack. Idk man, dwarves seem kinda weak compared to them, early game at least. After barracks, they destroy them of course (catapults OP). But if you didnt manage to defeat the Snow Orcs before barracks, you are really behind schedule imo, since it is possible that some of the northern cities could be taken by elves or anduin and you dont want another war just for 1 or 2 regions
I think that Erebor should get the next higher archer-tier of Dale instead of the dalesmen, with the reasoning that if Dale would provide forces to the Dwarves they surely wouldn't be civilian-type fishermen.
@@melkor3496 That would be pretty OP if Erebor got them from the start, but the militia archer unit (dalian bowmen I think they're called) look like real military units and aren't that much better than the dalesmen.
I'm kind of dissappointed that the Iron Hill mattock warriors aren't elite. They were mentioned in the hobbit book as veterans of the goblin wars fighting constantly many years underground.
Yeah and by the book's description those were the same warriors that traveled with Dain Ironfoot to relieve Erebor. They look really good in-game and it would be cool to see them as an elite unit.
@@feelingpine9123 I understand your point of view from a gameplay vs lore perspective. But it's not that hard to swap roles with a madeup elite unit say, king's axes.
King's Axes have the same design as the other T2 King's units. Designating them as a T1 early game unit instead would look... awkward to say the least.
@@kajtekii4666 do tell him how so it makes his life easier. I guess you just have to edit descr_building or some file like that were it says what units can be recruited by a building.
ok so for some reason the region of Onazanar is tagged as Logathavuld. so either go to data/world/maps/base/descr_regions.txt and look for Withered_Province then change there the Logathavuld to Mirkwood OR in export_descr_buildings.txt you can search for Dragonslayers. then for every 2 lines which are together you have to add an extra line, the same that says Mirkwood but change the word to Logathavuld. also apprearantely Withibord can recruit the Dragonslayers which probably happens only very late game, since it's a town...
I really dislike that you have to take Khazad-dûm West as a victory condition. If the dwarven plan works, Balin's got this part of the mountains covered. You should only have to take it if it's not in dwarven hands. Backstabbing your allies for a region of the MM you never really fight in seems wrong.
That reminds me of the Britannia campaign for Med II Kingdoms; as Wales and Scotland you have to take Dublin as a victory condition which doesn't make much sense. Yes, the English start with it but should the Irish take it for themselves there's little reason to take it (other than painting the map/fighting the Irish).
@@LyricalDJ That makes sence, the point of the Britannia campaign is controlling the Isles, just because people have a common enemy in England doesn't mean that they arent all Rivals xD
You know that you can just send a diplomat with an offer to buy it from them right? Assuming of course that so late in game you will have a strong economy and plenty of money. That's what i did so no backstabbing.
Sorry to be that guy Galu but you forgot King's Shields the excellent T2 spear and shield unit for Erebor. Also Stonefoot Spears come in at T1 rather than T2. Nitpick over - I love this mod, keep up the great work! :)
King's Halberds have been removed as of May 9th for v5 :) For v4.5: King's Halberd's have the pike animation instead of the halberd animation, hence the low attack. They function as AP pikes in game
One of my favorite factions. Now you guys ever considered replacing the Vanilla Pre-Upgraded Dwarf look from Third Age? They’re too rounded and smooth. A big part in Dwarven design for the films is that they never have smooth edges, but jagged and angular ones.
The Discord is closed for a few days but I want to get this suggestion out there. So in Med2TW grand campaign the muslim factions could call a jihad using an imam with enough piety. What if a similar mechanic was used for the dwarves. Instead of calling it a jihad call it a “reclamation”. And only the faction leaders of the dwarves could initiate them. Or depending on how the game functions you might have to create a building that can train an agent called a “lore master” or “elder” or “historian” that would function similarly to a priest. However with the way the mod is set up with culture it looks like it would only make sense if that “lore master” could only increase culture in an owned settlement. It could make capturing settlements like Dain’s halls or gundabad more interesting for a player attacking or defending. Or even if the Ai Ered Luin faction chooses to take the rings, if you are playing as erebor you could call a reclamation for Thorin’s halls and Khazad dum could join.
A script for them would be something to do with the withered hearth and the dragons that live there. Maybe other dragons attack the lonely mountain to “reclaim” it or there could be a dragon hunters hall that can only be built in the withered hearth and would cause the dragons to attack, and allow for the quicker training of dragon hunters
Are there even Drake Units in the game? A cool idea, having Rebel Drakes (maybe with Goblins) attacking the Lonely Mountain every few turns, but I dont believe any Drake units exist in the game (they could just be tireless Cold Drakes).
Galu, I was thinking, why do we have a ring script for Ered-Luin but don't have one for Erebor, which in the books was actually offered a ring for information about a little people who live somewhere.
I would think that it is because erebor are namely a good faction and would not wish to become neutral with dale, they have everything they want whereas the Ered luin are very out of the way and are not particularly good
It would be cool if the iron hill units had a very different look that was unified between them and maybe there were one or two more. I feel like they would be quite different, in the books they are grim and from a hard place so have a plainer harder look (e.g plain metal armour) in comparison to the comparatively wealthy Erebor, rich with trade and mineral wealth.
I love playing the dwarf factions and for me your rating for this faction is spot on since as long as you keep Dale and dominion in the fight you are safe to fight gundabad. My only thing I would like to spice this faction up would be a script that as king of durin folk have to make your people a power house again but other then that one of easiest factions in game
The defense of erebor seems a bit underwhelming as per the defenses of the gate itself, all the buildings with no attack. Its just a gate. Also if reinforcements come in to help, they just get stuck behind a mountain. Two of my best units were trapped and couldn't help in a defenseless city.
Personally I think Lord Thorin should have his ancillaries changed. He has oakenshield and orcrist which can make people confued that he is Thorin Oakenshield. Not all people know lore well enough and some casual fans might be wonderingif it's him. (I know that Dain's heir was also Thorin but not everyone knows)
Thought my campaign was going great. Was taking Gundabad before the barracks. Every Faction who could, did join the good(Erid Luin, Kand). I tought i was gonna walk this. Then the (unannounced) gundabad last stand came at the same time that run started to take issue with my taking of their cities. ouch. Loving it all the same.
I had the absolute same situation. Again, Ered Luin and Khand joined the good side, and I almost defeated Gundabad, and they spawned their last stand stack, but I managed to trap them in Wrakyaburg and kill the stack there. Managed to defeat them with only a stack of early game units, so it's not that scary.
Thematically it kinda makes sense that Erebor doesn't have many recruited troops at the start, since Balin took most of the volunteers to conquer Moria :)
It's ofc Rhun. And as a suggestion for a new video I would like to see a unit overview video of all the units that does not feature in the faction overviews.
It basically tells you to capture gundabad, khazad dum west and dain's halls from the orcs, and once it's done it'll give you a message saying that those regions have finally been reclaimed etc... and at the end it says you should be careful from retaliation by the orcs but nothing actually happens which is disappointing if (like me) you were expecting to be attacked by some sort of orcish horde or something.
@@abbestaabouri oh lol thats wack, im my campaign they haven't captured it yet and im like 40 turns in, i think that theyre actually struggling against the goblins because theres like 3 or 4 full stacks hovering around kd west
When I was playing as Erebor I got a script message called "the ire of the East" which basically said that Rhun was panicking because of my expansion into the East... Anyone know what that's about?
It's the script that indicate that Rhun received its last stand army, whenever an IA faction is on the verge of defeat, they receive a last fullstack army to try to push back, each message for each faction is different, but it's Always in the same vein. It's not an Erebor script but an overall script applied to Rhun beaucause you are winning against it
@@marijn2830 oh my Bad, then it's probably the message which indicate that they are expanding, changed for this version, i think the previous one was just Rhun expands, but maybe now it's The ire of Rhun
That isn't it either I'm afraid... The message basically states that Rhun will attack me if I expand further eastward. I have only ever gotten it while playing as Erebor (haven't played Dale). I did expand, nothing noticeable happened. That's why I'm asking.
Azog was killed by Dain Ironfoot during the battle of Azanulbizar before the gates of Moria. It happened something like 140 years before the Hobbit. I do not remember if it was discussed in the book or not.
galu I think you missed out a unit from erebors roster I have played a dale campaign in version 4.5 and as dale you can recruit a Erebor unit called the kings shields however they weren't shown in the video have I missed them ? or have they been removed ?
I want to start a new campaign with Mordor, but this this i want to have Sauron from the start. How can i use the console command to get the right at first turn?
Could someone explain to me what "Morale Response" is? Also is it worth having pike wall on for pike and halberd units ? I remember some mods tweeking the mechanic for pikes
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Morale repsonse is broken down into 4 tiers and it dictates how well a unit deals with morale shocks - death of a general, being flanked, losing troops etc.
@@letoatreides5165 lol yeah just steal their 2 biggest cities, during my bree campaign i took erebor, esgaroth, and dale from dale, i guess gundabad took erebor and dale took it from them because they were still allies, and i was making over 20k a turn from just those 3 settlements
King's Halberds actually still use the pike animation which means that the 3 armour piercing attack damage is incredibly strong because of how fast the animation is. They're one of the best units in the game because they are essentially just armour piercing pikes which is insane
@ So if I installed the game in the wrong folder at the start and had to move it to where my med 2 was, does that mean the axethrowers wont work unless I reinstall the mod?
I'm sorry to be nit-picking xD But in the chapter "Many Meetings" in lotr, Gloin tells Frodo that the dwarves of Erebor make good weapons and armor, but only in building have they surpassed the craft/knowledge of the old days. This implies that the dwarves of Erebor at the end of the third age have weapon-smithing that is very much average when compared to dwarven craftmanship of old. So there is some precedence for arguing that the dwarves of Erebor should not have the top-most armor tier in the game, but should be surpassed by factions like Khazad-Dum (simulating the expedition discovering ancient armor-sets and recipes for metal alloys, not to mention mithril) and maybe even High Elves, who has a whole gameplay-event centered around re-discovering noldor smith-craft and getting armor upgrades from it.
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All dwarves have the highest armour ratings. That isnt exclusive to Erebor.
A couple things Please for the love of all that is holy take Dale off the Erebor battle map The halberd unit kind of uses the pike animation, they are very strong and easily crush iron crown halberds despite having half the attack and the same defense while also having 40 less men
Never existed in Tolkiens lore. The visuals in the mod might be inspired from the Hobbit movies and part of the mod is fanfiction to fill in the map and different rosters, but dwarfs having goat cavalry is a direkte betrayal of the lore and was stupid in the movie
@@Vampirewolfkingapologies, only started playing DAC 2 months ago so was unaware that it had been asked multiple times. I watched the battle scenes in the battle of the five armies after making that comment and it reminded me at how inferior the hobbit was compared to Lord of the rings. Completely understandable not to want the rams as part of the game
TSJ as much we want to see the glorious goat/ram riders or chariots but sadly It was soo heavily restricted from toikien lore called "lore breaking", balance in the game and few unit slots ;-;
@@MrVictor1227 Man dragoslayers are worse than they were so is axeguard of Erbeor,and defencive stats are also a lot worse which is also stupid because dwarfs were ment to have the best defencive stats in the game
@@stefanblazic4316 they diversified the Dwarfen factions. Erebor is the aggressive one with throwing axes, Ered Luin is defensive with pikes and crossbows, while Khazad dum has the best armour and high quality, but expensive, main line units.
Im playing erebor rn on very hard/very hard and im not having a problem right now, i actually feel like erebor is easier than ered luin and khazad dum because the area you start with is such a money maker and gundabad dies so easily
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The only criticism I can give of Erebor as a faction is that Smaug's treasure is ignored. A new unique starting building simply called "Smaug's Hoard" would be a great inclusion to the game and in my understanding would be quite easy to include. It's sole benefit would be to provide a flat +1000 or so wealth per turn, whatever the dev team would consider to be fair. Indestructible building that gives Erebor a really nice starting boost, and gives enemy factions more encouragement to try and capture the Lonely Mountain.
Rob Alexander exactly, because it’s not like everyone just forgot about erebor after the battle, people where still interested, so that would be very good for lore reasons, great suggestion.
I would prefer a pop growth bonus or maybe a public order bonus. But if you destroy the building you get 10,000 gold
This is a good idea
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Or unique trading posts/markets with that in mine.
"As a human player you should be able to handle Gundabad quite easily."
Meanwhile, in my study:
OH GOD WHY WON'T THEY DIE?! THEY'RE LITERALLY NAKED! WHERE ARE ALL THESE ARROWS COMING FROM?!
PLEASE HELP ME GANDALF!!!
Naked but thick skin boi
@@lordoblivion8038 Saruman must've been absolutely raging. He spent 50 years breeding Uruk-hai and making super thicc armour for them only to literally get rekt by some trees. All he needed to do was make some regular orcs hang out in the snow for a while and they'd become immune to mortal weapons.
Yep, I lost erebor in the first ten turns, then made peace with them by giving them another city and then spent 200 turns grinding through rhun and didn't retake erebor until turn 400 from dale.
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Yeah, their units at low tier are almost equal quality compared to yours, even infantry! And they sometimes even manage to recruit some orc avengers or more bolg's champions in the first turns so you gotta deal with some elite troops too while only having by that time only your generals and 1 or 2 Erebor Axeguards(probably just 1 in early game) and I am not sure if even the Axeguard could handle any of those units 1v1. The Axeguard lacks charge bonus and their attack isnt that great either, even their defense is not that good. And your bodyguards are just good because of high armor but since they dont have AP anymore they have lots of trouble against those 2 units that, of course, are indeed AP, have good charge and very high attack.
Idk man, dwarves seem kinda weak compared to them, early game at least. After barracks, they destroy them of course (catapults OP). But if you didnt manage to defeat the Snow Orcs before barracks, you are really behind schedule imo, since it is possible that some of the northern cities could be taken by elves or anduin and you dont want another war just for 1 or 2 regions
I think that Erebor should get the next higher archer-tier of Dale instead of the dalesmen, with the reasoning that if Dale would provide forces to the Dwarves they surely wouldn't be civilian-type fishermen.
Yeah agreed they would probably provide the dwarves with barding marksman or something.
@@melkor3496 That would be pretty OP if Erebor got them from the start, but the militia archer unit (dalian bowmen I think they're called) look like real military units and aren't that much better than the dalesmen.
Hans Esa Yeah I guess
Longbowmen would be just fine, they are profesionals but not OP
@@melkor3496 Barding marksmen seem too strong to me. However Dalian Longbowmen would seem fitting.
I'm kind of dissappointed that the Iron Hill mattock warriors aren't elite. They were mentioned in the hobbit book as veterans of the goblin wars fighting constantly many years underground.
Yeah and by the book's description those were the same warriors that traveled with Dain Ironfoot to relieve Erebor. They look really good in-game and it would be cool to see them as an elite unit.
You can add it as a suggestion on discord
Erebor has *plenty* of elite units. They don't need more, and definitely don't need one of their very few early game units eliminated.
@@feelingpine9123 I understand your point of view from a gameplay vs lore perspective. But it's not that hard to swap roles with a madeup elite unit say, king's axes.
King's Axes have the same design as the other T2 King's units. Designating them as a T1 early game unit instead would look... awkward to say the least.
oh yeah that reminds me: the fortress of onazanar is unable to train the grey mountain dragonslayers.
@@kajtekii4666 do tell him how so it makes his life easier. I guess you just have to edit descr_building or some file like that were it says what units can be recruited by a building.
I will check it in the files and I will tell you because it might not be that file
ok so for some reason the region of Onazanar is tagged as Logathavuld.
so either go to data/world/maps/base/descr_regions.txt and look for Withered_Province
then change there the Logathavuld to Mirkwood
OR
in export_descr_buildings.txt you can search for Dragonslayers. then for every 2 lines which are together you have to add an extra line, the same that says Mirkwood but change the word to Logathavuld.
also apprearantely Withibord can recruit the Dragonslayers which probably happens only very late game, since it's a town...
@@kajtekii4666 It's a year on, but thanks for diving into the files.
Ah yes 12 in the morning here in the states and up I will stay
yo same bro
almost one in the states
Bro I have to wait until 1 o'clock in the morning
9 o clock in the morning here in Europe
@@tofky9190 10.20 for the sleepy Italians 😆
I really dislike that you have to take Khazad-dûm West as a victory condition. If the dwarven plan works, Balin's got this part of the mountains covered. You should only have to take it if it's not in dwarven hands. Backstabbing your allies for a region of the MM you never really fight in seems wrong.
That reminds me of the Britannia campaign for Med II Kingdoms; as Wales and Scotland you have to take Dublin as a victory condition which doesn't make much sense. Yes, the English start with it but should the Irish take it for themselves there's little reason to take it (other than painting the map/fighting the Irish).
In my Erebor campaign Khazad Dum went horde and took Edoras 😂😂
Mc Kra Very true
@@LyricalDJ That makes sence, the point of the Britannia campaign is controlling the Isles, just because people have a common enemy in England doesn't mean that they arent all Rivals xD
You know that you can just send a diplomat with an offer to buy it from them right? Assuming of course that so late in game you will have a strong economy and plenty of money. That's what i did so no backstabbing.
Sorry to be that guy Galu but you forgot King's Shields the excellent T2 spear and shield unit for Erebor. Also Stonefoot Spears come in at T1 rather than T2.
Nitpick over - I love this mod, keep up the great work! :)
The dwarfs like me, dont sleep and are always ready to go hit people in the head with pickaxes
You forgot to show the Kings Shields. For anyone wondering they look exactly like the Kings Axes but have a shield and spear
King's Halberds have been removed as of May 9th for v5 :)
For v4.5: King's Halberd's have the pike animation instead of the halberd animation, hence the low attack. They function as AP pikes in game
Really?
@@commandersol932 nice
A shame, I like having a dwarven halberd unit.
Then why fucking remove them then
so that's why they are so op. Pike animation + AP + high defense = total enemy melee destruction
One of my favorite factions. Now you guys ever considered replacing the Vanilla Pre-Upgraded Dwarf look from Third Age? They’re too rounded and smooth. A big part in Dwarven design for the films is that they never have smooth edges, but jagged and angular ones.
Kings halberds are actual monsters at holding the line and manage to kill a lot of high armour units.
They really are, I’m pissed that they’re taking them out in V5
The Discord is closed for a few days but I want to get this suggestion out there. So in Med2TW grand campaign the muslim factions could call a jihad using an imam with enough piety. What if a similar mechanic was used for the dwarves. Instead of calling it a jihad call it a “reclamation”. And only the faction leaders of the dwarves could initiate them. Or depending on how the game functions you might have to create a building that can train an agent called a “lore master” or “elder” or “historian” that would function similarly to a priest. However with the way the mod is set up with culture it looks like it would only make sense if that “lore master” could only increase culture in an owned settlement. It could make capturing settlements like Dain’s halls or gundabad more interesting for a player attacking or defending. Or even if the Ai Ered Luin faction chooses to take the rings, if you are playing as erebor you could call a reclamation for Thorin’s halls and Khazad dum could join.
A script for them would be something to do with the withered hearth and the dragons that live there. Maybe other dragons attack the lonely mountain to “reclaim” it or there could be a dragon hunters hall that can only be built in the withered hearth and would cause the dragons to attack, and allow for the quicker training of dragon hunters
Are there even Drake Units in the game? A cool idea, having Rebel Drakes (maybe with Goblins) attacking the Lonely Mountain every few turns, but I dont believe any Drake units exist in the game (they could just be tireless Cold Drakes).
Galu, I was thinking, why do we have a ring script for Ered-Luin but don't have one for Erebor, which in the books was actually offered a ring for information about a little people who live somewhere.
Yeah this also bothers me quite alot. Ered-luin were given the ringscript because without it they were really boring. But lore-wise...
I would think that it is because erebor are namely a good faction and would not wish to become neutral with dale, they have everything they want whereas the Ered luin are very out of the way and are not particularly good
@@tristanburrows7786 Yes, also I am pretty sure that the Balance in the north/northeast would be completely destroyed
You forgot king's shield
Galu: Wait until version 5 to use the King's halberds
Me: Welp that'll be a bit of a wait.
Also Me: WOOOOO RHUN!
yeah... or just literally change 1 digit in the files
@@kajtekii4666 Lmao bruh I'm just joking around.
They have been removed
@@kajtekii4666 you know, some people don't know how to change the ini files so can you stop saying it like it's common sense
ok then, go makes us a hotfix then
It would be cool if the iron hill units had a very different look that was unified between them and maybe there were one or two more. I feel like they would be quite different, in the books they are grim and from a hard place so have a plainer harder look (e.g plain metal armour) in comparison to the comparatively wealthy Erebor, rich with trade and mineral wealth.
I love playing the dwarf factions and for me your rating for this faction is spot on since as long as you keep Dale and dominion in the fight you are safe to fight gundabad. My only thing I would like to spice this faction up would be a script that as king of durin folk have to make your people a power house again but other then that one of easiest factions in game
I agree with your dale and Dorwinion comment, i let dale take all the settlements to the east and they were able to hold off and beat Rhun
The defense of erebor seems a bit underwhelming as per the defenses of the gate itself, all the buildings with no attack. Its just a gate. Also if reinforcements come in to help, they just get stuck behind a mountain. Two of my best units were trapped and couldn't help in a defenseless city.
What are the odds, I think 'I wonder if there's another faction overview out in the last few days' and here's one fresh out the oven, thanks!
Hello. Galu always uploads them really early on Sunday mornings in the UK. For me they are usually up just after 1:00 AM EST.
Personally I think Lord Thorin should have his ancillaries changed. He has oakenshield and orcrist which can make people confued that he is Thorin Oakenshield. Not all people know lore well enough and some casual fans might be wonderingif it's him. (I know that Dain's heir was also Thorin but not everyone knows)
Got to love that population both grownus!
Finally, the chad Dwarves.. 😁
So, you're saying there are virgin Dwarves? :O
@@lukamijic4335 Erid Luin are the dwarves of the blue mountains which is a euphemism for blue balls. 😉
Hey man just wanna say thank you for all this great content and great mod
I watched your video all the time keep making them Thx.
I remember the Iron Guard from the great days of old. Colorful shields with a Greyish blue armor. Awesome.
2:36 am here in Brazil, late vídeo stonks
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Would it be worth doing a mercenary unit overview?
Great idea to me!
I thought that Dain stomped on Azogs neck , that is why he is called Ironfoot.
Dain cut the head from Azog's shoulders.
Wait, what if Khazad-Dum takes Western Moria? Can you still get victory without backstabbing your allies?
Buy it from them is all you can do
Thought my campaign was going great. Was taking Gundabad before the barracks. Every Faction who could, did join the good(Erid Luin, Kand). I tought i was gonna walk this. Then the (unannounced) gundabad last stand came at the same time that run started to take issue with my taking of their cities. ouch. Loving it all the same.
I had the absolute same situation. Again, Ered Luin and Khand joined the good side, and I almost defeated Gundabad, and they spawned their last stand stack, but I managed to trap them in Wrakyaburg and kill the stack there.
Managed to defeat them with only a stack of early game units, so it's not that scary.
Thematically it kinda makes sense that Erebor doesn't have many recruited troops at the start, since Balin took most of the volunteers to conquer Moria :)
The detail on these units is magnificent!
It's ofc Rhun.
And as a suggestion for a new video I would like to see a unit overview video of all the units that does not feature in the faction overviews.
26:30 Oh, you're thinking of alternate dwarven artillery? Why Galu, _what about the twirley whirlies?_
I think you forgot to include the kings Shileds unit as well great vid anyway
Awwww I was hoping for ram riders XD
Yanâd Durinul!
You forgot to mention the small grudge script for Erebor. Maybe not super special but it's something extra
What is that?
It basically tells you to capture gundabad, khazad dum west and dain's halls from the orcs, and once it's done it'll give you a message saying that those regions have finally been reclaimed etc... and at the end it says you should be careful from retaliation by the orcs but nothing actually happens which is disappointing if (like me) you were expecting to be attacked by some sort of orcish horde or something.
@@abbestaabouri oh yeah i got that message the only settlement i still need to capture is kd west but i have the rest
@@galvatron0810 if balin's expedition manages to capture khazad dum west you'll still get the message.
@@abbestaabouri oh lol thats wack, im my campaign they haven't captured it yet and im like 40 turns in, i think that theyre actually struggling against the goblins because theres like 3 or 4 full stacks hovering around kd west
dwarves of erebor should have goats to get that cav aswell, it would be nice, reforged did it i think
No.
@ why tho
@ aaaand hear me out to not be too op u can only recruit them from the ironhills
my favourite faction by far
Burak khazad!!!
Did I miss something or did he miss the Kings spears unit ?
He did
Furthermore, I can build the Oracarni building as far west as Dains Halls
I hope Ered Luin get vision Upgrade too
When I was playing as Erebor I got a script message called "the ire of the East" which basically said that Rhun was panicking because of my expansion into the East... Anyone know what that's about?
It's the script that indicate that Rhun received its last stand army, whenever an IA faction is on the verge of defeat, they receive a last fullstack army to try to push back, each message for each faction is different, but it's Always in the same vein. It's not an Erebor script but an overall script applied to Rhun beaucause you are winning against it
@@ornanerfasse6763 this is not it. I got it early in the game, and I know what the last stand script looks like.
@@marijn2830 oh my Bad, then it's probably the message which indicate that they are expanding, changed for this version, i think the previous one was just Rhun expands, but maybe now it's The ire of Rhun
That isn't it either I'm afraid... The message basically states that Rhun will attack me if I expand further eastward. I have only ever gotten it while playing as Erebor (haven't played Dale). I did expand, nothing noticeable happened. That's why I'm asking.
Rhūn next ?
Btw I never knew Azog was a thing outside of the movies, maybe I had a different book Version but in Mine only Bolg existed
Azog was killed by Dain Ironfoot during the battle of Azanulbizar before the gates of Moria. It happened something like 140 years before the Hobbit. I do not remember if it was discussed in the book or not.
@@Vampirewolfking thx, guess it wasn't mentioned
how can i get elite units on woodland realm. i can not even build the second archery building.
Kings sheilds ??? It’s your main unit btw
galu I think you missed out a unit from erebors roster I have played a dale campaign in version 4.5 and as dale you can recruit a Erebor unit called the kings shields however they weren't shown in the video have I missed them ? or have they been removed ?
Are the ironhills units from the hobbit movies in the game
in the last version I could not recruit units from Kirikhgathol, why is that?
Will you be posting a little patch for the values of those 2 units in the discord server?
The Kings Halberds are actually a pike unit, I have since been told. So their low attack is on purpose.
However they have been cut from V5 anyway.
@ oh, I see, everything alrighty then. Keep up the good work :D
Boooooooo don’t get rid of them!!!
I want to start a new campaign with Mordor, but this this i want to have Sauron from the start. How can i use the console command to get the right at first turn?
maybe the drawves should have a better crew for catapult/balista
Agreed
give them more armor or bigger area projectiles
How do I get the dwarven catapult?? I cant see it aviable on the siege building list at any city
You can shield wall but you cant :D Useful
In my version of v4.5 kings halberds are
Attack 5
Charge 6
Total defence 20
Armour 15
Remember his overview was without any upgrades from smithies and/or Guilds
YEEEEEEEESSS RHUN IS NEXT
Could someone explain to me what "Morale Response" is? Also is it worth having pike wall on for pike and halberd units ? I remember some mods tweeking the mechanic for pikes
Morale repsonse is broken down into 4 tiers and it dictates how well a unit deals with morale shocks - death of a general, being flanked, losing troops etc.
@ ah ok. Thank you. Been playing the Dorwinion campaign. I was really intrigued to play a moriquendi faction.
Blesshh gooo
May I ask what do we have to do to just see the troops battling, like in 27:39 ?
Set it up in your own game?
Custom battle
What does Stubbornness of the Dwarves do?
could you make the look of weapons and armor like in hobbit battle of five armies?
Upgrade your armies at the blacksmith.
Erebor op-op-strat: take Dale and esgaroth in the second turn, then really Dale or kill them of
Why would you kill dale they keep rhun from killing you
@@galvatron0810 i mean you can probably re-ally them. Just if that doesn't work-> crush them.
@@letoatreides5165 lol yeah just steal their 2 biggest cities, during my bree campaign i took erebor, esgaroth, and dale from dale, i guess gundabad took erebor and dale took it from them because they were still allies, and i was making over 20k a turn from just those 3 settlements
@@galvatron0810 exactly xD.
I have a problem installing divide and conquer V4.5 I tried to run and I got an error, you know maybe what is the reason?
More informations please ?
Watch the installation video again
*I have arrive as early as possible*
King's Halberds actually still use the pike animation which means that the 3 armour piercing attack damage is incredibly strong because of how fast the animation is. They're one of the best units in the game because they are essentially just armour piercing pikes which is insane
7 in the morning in Europe
@Galu, is the ax throwers working properly now?
When i started capmaign with Rhun i had only 1 settlement but here the have much more.Why is that?
AI starting territories are different from the player
@@jamaly77 THX
I tried playing the dwarves snow orcs are way too tough
My game crashes everytime the axe throwers starts to throw their axes. Any idea on how I can solve this?
Install the game as per the instructions. If you rename your folder or you copied and pasted the install, then they will crash.
@ So if I installed the game in the wrong folder at the start and had to move it to where my med 2 was, does that mean the axethrowers wont work unless I reinstall the mod?
Erebor is a 1.
I'm sorry to be nit-picking xD But in the chapter "Many Meetings" in lotr, Gloin tells Frodo that the dwarves of Erebor make good weapons and armor, but only in building have they surpassed the craft/knowledge of the old days. This implies that the dwarves of Erebor at the end of the third age have weapon-smithing that is very much average when compared to dwarven craftmanship of old. So there is some precedence for arguing that the dwarves of Erebor should not have the top-most armor tier in the game, but should be surpassed by factions like Khazad-Dum (simulating the expedition discovering ancient armor-sets and recipes for metal alloys, not to mention mithril) and maybe even High Elves, who has a whole gameplay-event centered around re-discovering noldor smith-craft and getting armor upgrades from it.
All dwarves have the highest armour ratings. That isnt exclusive to Erebor.
@ Cool, makes sense with the mithril-armorsmith.
Erebor should have infinite money. That giant pile of money in there didn't just disappear.
I played Erebor a lot and money already never ends, in turn ~100 you can already have 500 000+ gold. Even easier than Khazad-Dum
A couple things
Please for the love of all that is holy take Dale off the Erebor battle map
The halberd unit kind of uses the pike animation, they are very strong and easily crush iron crown halberds despite having half the attack and the same defense while also having 40 less men
What about the dwarven grudges script?
Why no Goat cavalry? Big oversight imo.
Never existed in Tolkiens lore. The visuals in the mod might be inspired from the Hobbit movies and part of the mod is fanfiction to fill in the map and different rosters, but dwarfs having goat cavalry is a direkte betrayal of the lore and was stupid in the movie
Currently way too easy cause of the almost unlimited money. Mines are too good imo.
lore-accurate tho i ain’t complaining
Could you in the future add scripts as a timestamp?
Thoughts on Ram Riders (à la @Battle of the Five armies') as a possible dwarven calvary for Erebor?
Galu has said on several occasions that goat cavalry will never be in the mod as long as he's the leader of the team.
@@Vampirewolfkingapologies, only started playing DAC 2 months ago so was unaware that it had been asked multiple times.
I watched the battle scenes in the battle of the five armies after making that comment and it reminded me at how inferior the hobbit was compared to Lord of the rings. Completely understandable not to want the rams as part of the game
Matthew Williamson It’s cus the goat cav goes against everything Tolkien wrote. He would be disappointed if he saw the goat riders.
it would be so cool if they made Mountain Goat Calvary , like in the battle of the 5 armies
Unless if you read the books that is! xD
Commander Sol it was just a hope it would be a great counter to wargs
Only one question where are my GOATS and GOAT chariots :'( At least one cavalry dwarf nation pls
I dont see why the dwarves need a Generalized Occupational Aptitude Test
TSJ as much we want to see the glorious goat/ram riders or chariots but sadly
It was soo heavily restricted from toikien lore called "lore breaking", balance in the game and few unit slots ;-;
Goat cavalry makes no sense.
@@Vampirewolfking At least they were in movie and developers already added a lot from it
@@tsj8726 Because the things they added are not lore breaking, dwarven cavalry is.
Actually you ruined erbor and weakend them a lot
Why?
@@MrVictor1227 Man dragoslayers are worse than they were so is axeguard of Erbeor,and defencive stats are also a lot worse which is also stupid because dwarfs were ment to have the best defencive stats in the game
@@stefanblazic4316 weak against which faction exactly?
@@stefanblazic4316 they diversified the Dwarfen factions. Erebor is the aggressive one with throwing axes, Ered Luin is defensive with pikes and crossbows, while Khazad dum has the best armour and high quality, but expensive, main line units.
Im playing erebor rn on very hard/very hard and im not having a problem right now, i actually feel like erebor is easier than ered luin and khazad dum because the area you start with is such a money maker and gundabad dies so easily