The Ultimate Lakers Team
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- In this series, I assemble what I believe is the greatest team possible for each franchise. In this specific video, we're looking at the Los Angeles Lakers.
5 starters, 5 backups, and 3 rotations players. A total of 13 roster spots on each Ultimate Team. It's not just about talent, but it's about building a team that works and gels together.
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If the Lakers were to lose to 1 Ultimate team, which team would it be??
Boston
They wouldn’t .
Celtics. Warriors, Rockets, Sixers might be able to give them a run too tho.
Celtics, duh. Bulls would have a shot too
Celtics Warriors Or Chicago bulls
You know your team is stacked when the honorable mentions have a combined 50 All-Star appearances and 5 MVPs.
Yes but clearly not 50 All-Star et 5 MVP in LA.
Karl Malone and Steve Nash was washed out in LA.
Let’s just get it out there… this is the most OP ultimate team. Hall of Famers and Legends up and down the roster.
Yep. The only team that could challenge them would be the celtics
If we talk about just the starting 5 there is like a little bit of competition but for an entire team yeah no dif
@@universalplayz7496nah their starting 5 has five top 15 players of all time. Arguably top 10. 😂
Warriors, Celtics are the next best but they are nowhere close.
Idk bruh the warriors and rockets are pretty stacked…
This is the one I’ve been waiting for. This team is basically a dream team 😂
This is a title favorite in this hypothetical ultimate team league
My thoughts exactly 💯.
What about Kareem
This team might beat THE Dream Team
deepest team ever. if there was ever a team that could also be known as the Dream Team….this would be it
That transition at 1:22 is nice. Looks like Magic passed it to himself
Thank you!
Can barely describe the rush of happiness I felt when Cooper got the final spot. I was almost sure that he was going to be snubbed when he did everything that I felt like the roster needed. My favorite player of all time is Bird and he has always sang the praises of Michael Cooper's defense, intensity and heart. I was thinking about how to word an angry comment when I heard his name. Great video.
Coop was DPOY.
Best perimeter defender that I've ever seen. The man was more than just a defender. One of those guys who sacrificed individual accolades to win rings.
@@Davivd2 I could sit and list all the recognizable stuff that he did that made him a great on-ball defender...and he did everything, but Cooper's real strength was the little stuff he did that most others didnt. If you listen to Bird's defenders talk about his crafty defense and "safety-like" patrolling of passing lanes, Cooper did the same thing, but could also do it while actively guarding someone on-ball. It's one of the most unique skills I have ever seen and really speaks to his intelligence and determination. Cooper knew their sets and positioning and would watch their eyes and body language and make adjustments to get between them and a relief pass while still maintaining smothering defense. You don't see that too often and it's not really talked about but his level of preparation and understanding his strengths and skillset were elite. Amazing player that the younger generation should probably add to the playlist if they want to see the game played the right way.
Imagine having a starting 5 that is all in the category of top 10 all time
While three of your BENCH guys (Baylor, West and Wilt) are in the top 25, at a minimum, and the NBA’s first superstar doesn’t even MAKE the team.
Imagine having that conversation with Wilt that he's gonna be a backup. Jeez...
Exactly that be insane when have problems top 10 player come off the bench
If it was prime Wilt instead of Lakers wilt he would absolutely be the starter
Put them in training camp together and Wilt will come out the starter. He and Shaq probably end up killing each other.
Also. LeBron is too ball dominant to fit well here. I would start Worthy over him.
@@duffypratt lebron can easily play off-ball like in Miami
Given the speed of today's game, Wilt (especially a young Wilt) probably outplays Kareem and Shaq due to his work rate and a young Kareem probably out-hussles Shaq. You'd have to surround Wilt with shooters (West). If the refs are calling charges, I'm definitely not starting Shaq. I don't think people realize that Wilt likely scored 50+ a game in his youth because not even guards could beat him down the court, no matter the opposing center. Watch the video of his triple jump... Bill Russell was probably the only guy that kept up with him in his prime.
I’m so happy you put Coop on this squad! As someone who watched nearly every game during the late showtime era (85 onwards) that was available, he was THAT GUY for glue, both for chemistry and being stuck to whoever he is guarding!
It’s amazing how many Hall of Famers played for the Lakers , but missed this list: Mikan, Lovellette, McAdoo, Haywood, Hawkins, Mikkelsen, Malone, Rodman, Pollard, Dantley, Hudson, Richmond, Wilkes, Payton, Nash and Martin, not to mention future Hall of Famers like Howard, Anthony and Westbrook.
One thing that is unanimously agreed on in the basketball community is NOBODY beats the All Time Lakers
On a player by player basis, yeah. Not a chance. They’re so overpowered. I’d argue they don’t alll really fit well together, and if they played together there wouldn’t be enough shots to go around, but man I want to see this team actually play!
@@andrewarnold9751Kobe Bron and Shaq are all really ball dominant
@@adg9042 yep. So is Magic and Kareem. That whole team is.
Thank you Jonny! I believe this might be the best all time team for the one of the most storied franchises. They could win a championship against all the all time teams even against the Celtics and Bulls.
could they beat the Warriors? The KD Warriors on their own could beat almost any of these teams now imagine they upgrade at center from Zaza Pachulia to some guy named Wilt
Warriors team is kinda crazy
@@baxterbrown8088 Yep, people are seriously sleeping on this option. Warriors Wilt is a monster who was "held" to over 34 PLAYOFF ppg, 25 rebounds per game, and who knows how many blocks, because he was regularly facing double and triple teams (often from the Bill Russell Celtics) and had highly limited supporting scoring threats/spacing. Sharing a frontcourt with KD...let alone having Steph on the perimeter...I don't care if he's going up against prime Shaq...he's going to feast.
Now, depth is one major advantage the all-time Lakers have over just about anyone, including the Warriors, and the drop-off in Warriors' talent after their starting 5 is...noticeable. In terms of who's more likely to form a dynasty, it's definitely the Lakers. But in a single season/playoff run, all-time Warriors are a bigger threat than they're getting credit for.
@@baxterbrown8088only problem is whichever Laker big man isn't being guarded by Wilt will absolutely abuse the rest of the Warriors defenders. Also Jerry West & Kobe are 2 of the 5 best perimeter defenders to ever live that could seriously hamper the 3 pointers of the Warriors.
It's a shame you didn't include coaches in these Ultimate teams, because it would've been interesting to see who could successfully coach these Lakers. I'd give the edge to Riley over Jackson, as Pat coached more players from this roster while working under The Logo - making it five he's got experience with, compared to Jackson's three (not counting the older West).
I think we’re gonna do that at the end. Me and my editor plan on making several wrap up videos about these teams when it’s all done
I completely agree on taking Riley over Jackson. I think Riley's aggressive approach would suit them well.
This team is ridiculously overpowered 😂
That starting line-up is just... Damn!
Seriously, once you have the starting five the second unit could be literally a bunch of randoms from the crowd and they would still be unbeatable.
Yep, called it. Had a feeling this would be the one, to top the Ultimate Cetlics team.
I don't blame you for pretty much making the 71-72 Lakers as the second unit. That's a GOAT lineup.
Who you got winning in a best of 7 series Jonny? All time Lakers or all time Hornets?
Lmao 🤣 Imagine thinking the lakers stood a chance
Easily everyone else cmon now@@five-time
If the hornets had to win one game and the Lakers needed 4 I would go with the lakers
@@five-timeall time everyone else gets Prime Kareem, prime LBJ or no?
@@jonnyarnett who would you have in a best of 7 the all time Hornets or all time Bullets (1948-1954)
Has to be the strongest of all these fantasy teams, love it
ABOUT DAMN TIME!! This is the only team that matters.
I’d say the Celtics would too
Celtics are up there as well
What you mean about time. It's alphabetical bro.
Great video, Jonny! The starting 5 is the best so far (and def will be among the best in the whole series). Magic, Kobe, LeBron, Kareem, and Shaq. An unstoppable starting 5.
The bench is so good too. West, Baylor, and Goodrich would be an amazing combo and it was great getting to learn even more about them. I can also see Kobe and West closing out games too. Plus, Davis and Wilt would be an amazing frontcourt. You're right that the five backups would beat many starting 5s.
Hard to see Worthy as a rotation player. But it makes sense since this team is so talented. They have so many good frontcourt players too (esp since the 3rd string PF is Gasol, who is def one of the best rotation players in this series so far). Cooper is solid too.
I agree that this team is OP. A great lineup.
Have a nice Sunday 😊
I was waiting for this video, and it did not disappoint! I myself would just add one to the Honorable Mentions: Kurt Rambis.
Crazy staring 5 Magic, Kobe, Lebron, Kareem, Shaquille all won the NBA Finals as Lakers.
Bench deep glad Pau Gasol made it.
This is great fun!! Well done!! And I love your picks here. Personally, I’d have taken Byron Scott as the 2nd shooting guard, but that’s likely my recently bias.
Also, you’d be hard pressed to compile a better team from all the rest of the NBA players in history that would be favored against this one. Scary good.
As a Bulls fan, no team is beating this team!!! 80 game regular season; and sweeping through the playoffs!!!
It's possible to beat this team because it would be too much ego, and they would need two ball ! Best Bulls team would beat them! Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Grant, Gilmore 1.st team! 2.nd team: Harper, Wade, Kerr, Kukoc, Longley! 3 add player: Rose, Armstrong, Paxon! Also, a few other teams could have a chance, like Phila,Celtics, Warriors, or Heat !
17 rings, 31 finals appearances, most popular free agency destination, and they by far have the best all time roster. But their fans still find reasons to complain
Love your playlist in general, and this one is no exception!👏🏼 It could have been a good idea to include the best coach too
This is how crazy this team is talent wise. Worthy's role. Whoa!!!!
Excellent 👍 job Jonny! I couldn't wait for this video. Because ( obviously ) a Laker rotation like this would be unstoppable!
Who else was curious to see who he chose as his starting center? 😂
Great per stuff usual.
This team, my team, I’m putting up against any all time team you cover Jonny. I’ve been waiting on this one and it’s just as OP as I expected. Only the all time Celtics would be formidable.
This is the EXACT way I had my starters and bench!! Haven't made it to your reserves yet but I had Worthy in mine, Byron Scott and maybe Nick Van excel or Eddie Jones 😤
I didn't put Gasol because they already have so many bigs... Pause... Definitely could put Cooper as well though
Been waiting for this one !👍
Bro, you know the other teams done fd up when Wilt and West is coming of the bench 🔥🔥💯
I was waiting for this one 🎉🎉
These vids are gold
Well done as always. I'd have made Elgin the starting SF, but this is an area where reasonable people might differ.
This starting line up would have been 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Been waiting for this one
I’m happy that you include my guy Pau Gasol in this list. He’s the best sidekick to any of the Lakers superstars because he is so unselfish and with almost zero ego.
Great video! You should make a video about the Seattle Supersonics/OKC Thunder ultimate team
Yep, I will! We’re going in alphabetical order of the teams names, so the Lakers are L, and when we get to T, I’ll do the Thunder/Sonics
How did I miss this? I was waiting on the Lakers video and saw you release the Pistons vid today. The heck! 😂
james worthy should be the 2nd unit starting pf & ad should be a rotation player
No one is beating this team
The bulls or warriors could possibly
@@Joshkiddy15.no
@@Joshkiddy15.Absolutely not 😂. This team is absolutely stacked on both ends of the floor. Bulls and Warriors have no one that could go toe to toe with Shaq AND Wilt AND Kareem AND Davis in the paint alone. Like he said.. no one is beating this team.. zero chance
@@wg5331Warriors have no one? Don't Warriors have young Wilt? I don't think they'd still beat Lakers but it wouldn't be that easy.
I know which team can beat this ultimate Lakers; the current Detroit Pistons.
Just wanted to say that I absolutely love all of your videos. Could you please answer one question for me:
I remember you answering a question about who were your top 5 players to never win a championship. Allen Iverson wasn’t on that list from what I remember, and I’d put him over James Harden since he’s actually been to a finals. What do you think of this?
Thank so much for that generosity!! Means a lot :) Technically Harden went to the Finals as well, since he was there in 2012, but unlike Iverson, Harden wasn’t the guy who lead them there.
Personally I have Iverson well over Harden, simply for the difference in how they performed in the postseason. Many of Iverson’s greatest performances came when the lights were the brightest in the Playoffs, while Harden almost routinely folds in those situations.
Anyway, thanks again :)
When you are saying "Oh snap" for an entire video. Let's go Lakers!
Awwwww shit I was waiting for this!!!
Absolutely super stacked team... my goodness
The size of this team!
These guys could probably beat an ultimate team of everyone except Lakers
My top 5 Lakers starting 5 my guards is Magic and late Kobe Bryant ,center is Kareem,forwards are J Worthy and Elgin Baylor,off bench is Micheal Cooper,Jerry West,Shaq,Wilt,L James,Anthony Davis.Coach is Pat Riley,assistants is Bill Berka,Phil Jackson,Jim Cleamons
Just Lebron and magic is already illegal, two of the best passers the game has seen
Except LeBron is trying to get Magic and Shaq traded for some shooters, but really just so he can have the ball more and have control of the locker room.
It should be illegal because they’re two players that need the ball to be effective. Possibly the worst synergy of any duo ever
Lebron is not a top 10 passer. And he holds the ball way too long/his possession times is insane.
4:43 “Kobe and Lebron on the wings” -this statement is chilling in itself
Stacked. Overpowered. The ability to just overwhelm teams from one to five. Insane ball movement. This could be like Showtime on steroids. The only potential weakness is floor spacing for the starting five, but with the speed this team can blitz the opposition in transition or just just physically overwhelm them in the half court with power going to the rim, that shouldn't be much of an issue. And that's before you factor in the ridiculous level of defense both in the paint and on the perimeter.
The bench + 3 rotational players and honorable mentions alone would beat most all-time great teams lol
Jerry West MUST be in the top 5 players - said by a Celtic fan
The only teams that I think could realistically give this team a challenge are the Celtics, Bulls, Bucks, and 76ers. And I think at worst, they might win in 6 games. Looking forward to ultimate Mavericks next! Great job, I’m really loving this series!
On a person by person basis, no one comes close. Perhaps the Warriors or someone would have a better team chemistry or a bit fit or something and actually stand a chance, but if these guys could figure out how to play together no one would stand a chance.
Hey Jonny love your channel, best basketball channel on TH-cam easily. I’ve got a video idea that I’d love to see you do.
When considering the best players ever, I take into consideration a player’s ability to lead/carry a team as the lone-star pretty heavily. We value championships and playoff success when comparing players, but obviously some all-time great players had much greater teams/coaches/organizations than other all-time great players. I’d love to hear your opinion on who you think the best lone-star players in NBA history are.
In my dream world, I’d want to see a postseason of the 30 best players of all time on a team of their own as the lone superstar, with equal teammates that compliment the player’s skill set and equal coaching. I really think that’s the best determiner of who’s truly the best. It proves a player’s abilities to lead, impact the game without relying on other all-time greats, and beat opponents when everything else is equal.
It doesn’t necessarily translate to the GOAT list perfectly, but it is a worthwhile thing to consider in my opinion. Much love!
You know you have the best squad when West and Chamberlain are second team
Very nice approach to get around the 'Kareem only in the second unit' problem 😅
The Lakers are going to dominate this! Let's go!
SOLID IDEA.. a 2nd Lakers team in this fashion 🤣 there are so many other top-tier Lakers players, bet u could do another 13 plyrs scarier than other teams already done.
Great series!!
Overall I agree with most of these, but you gotta have Mr. Basketball George Mikan. And Worthy only being a reserve player is nuts.
Mikan is another center on a loaded team but must agree that he should have a rotation spot.
The greatest PG of all time, the second greatest SG of all time,, the greatest SF of all time, and 2 out of top 5 greatest centers of all time in the starting lineup.
Another of the top 5 greatest centers in the second unit. (IMHO, other top 5 centers are Russell and Hakeem.)
Usually, you never bet against Bill Russell or Jordan in the finals, but this squad takes the cake.
I gotta do 87 magic, 03 kobe, 20 bron and 20 ad, with 2000 shaq. Ad is much better for the running game with those 3 perimeter guys and then shaq in the halfcourt. That is most definitely the greatest starting 5 of any franchise in history
If you have to take a perimeter guy for your team (which let's be clear, this group do need) 03 Kobe would be better than 06 Kobe, that do be true.
But also, a smallball lineup of West-Cooper-Bryant-James-Davis would have soo much dynamism and shooting it can definitely be intriguing. Though shoutout to Magic and Baylor who just for their rebounding could have been the 4/5 of the smallball group.
Hey Jonny, great video as always!
I do have one question though. When you’re stating each player’s stats there seams to be a discrepancy between the shooting percentage you say and the one displayed in text. I wonder am I missing something?
Yeah, so the percentage I’m usually audibly saying is their Field Goal Percentage (FG%), and sometimes my editor will display the True Shooting Percentage (TS%), which is a broader efficiency stat that includes Field Goal, Free Throw and 3 Point Efficiency. I think my editor does that just to give the viewers more information if that’s desired, but I can also see how that can be confusing
@@jonnyarnett Good on your editor, it’s nice to have more insightful information. Thank you for clearing that up
The Lakers are just absolutely stacked with their all-time list of players
I would give almost anything to see Ultimate Lakers vs Ultimate Celtics in a 7 game series!
If the fate of humanity hinged upon a basketball game, few would object to this squad.
The lakers are the most overpowered team with the celtics. You can tell from its rings.
Now this is gonna be interesting
I hope you do a collab with either Kenny or Clique to do the simulation. Thatd be dope
Bro the honourable mentions could be a dynasty
We need big shot rob, just as a lucky charm, to be on the roster. He has the most number of rings within this ultimate team. Imagine that.
Good afternoon!
Love the series, but I don’t love Kareem at the 4. I understand that the Lakers have 3 of the best Centers in basketball history, but I would rather see Baylor at the starting 3 and LeBron at the 4. You could rotate Kareem, Shaq and Wilt, keeping all three fresh and terrifying.
Me and my cousin been doing this on 2k for over ten years and usually at the end it's the Lakers against the Celtics
James Worthy should have been on the first team. Has the experience to play well with Magic
I get you are trying to be cool. We are talking about LeBron James here tho
@2000Vincius yeah and LeBron would not be good fit with Magic
@@Sf75178Agreed!!!
@@2000VinciusLebron ain’t even a top 10 Laker
From that Showtime Lakers, I would take only Magic ! No disrespect to Worthy or Kareem, but without Magic, Celtics would be champions all the time!
The Honorable Mentions would be better then some other Ultimate Teams.
This is the 82-0 Ultimate Team! Most stacked, most HOF talent, best chemistries... The elite of the elite. Only team that could give them trouble I think is Boston. Maybe Knicks. Or in the west, the Warriors. But those are huge maybes
also, wish D Fish and Byron Scott made the cut, but they're not quite where the rest of the team is so I understand
Can't argue with most of that..... but no honourable mention for Vlade Divac?
This team is obviously going to be the best ultimate team, but I would not have selected it the same way. To me, you pick players for a peak rather than what they mean for their franchise and it's not the way I would do it. AD and LeBron are great players but were not at their best in LA and didn't play yet for as long as the other legends.
Therefore, for what they mean to the franchise and how they would play together at their best as Lakers:
Starters: Magic-Kobe-Worthy-Kareem-Shaq
Bench: West-Goodrich-LeBron-Baylor-Wilt
Last 3: Gasol-Mikan-AC Green for the same reasons you listed.
If we don't pick 50s players, then yes, I'd get Anthony Davis too, or maybe Lamar Odom to have more perimeter players, but LeBron, Worthy and Baylor can also play outside.
Was waiting for this Ultimate Lakers team. Been a fan since Kobe's days but im putting Gasol over AD as back up PF.
This bout to be the highest viewed video of the series
I'd say the Dallas one will have the most views and comments.
Even the second unit can go toe to toe with other teams starting lineups.
Position adjusted Kareem at 4 and Shaq at 5 is an awesome combination, and I'm surprised I was thinking of starting one over the other rather than adjusting it that way. Kareem was an amazing shot blocker and yet not really an all-time rim protector, and Shaq was kind of the opposite. That is to say, Kareem snagged an extremely large amount of shots without really being an all-time intimidator under the rim who would actually deter attempts from being taken in the first place, whereas Shaq was a good but not spectacular shot-blocker who was an extremely good rim protector because he *did* intimidate and deter attempts under the rim. So Kareem being a little further from the rim or even out at the perimeter guarding stretch 4s would actually leverage his length and shot-blocking and Shaq's rim deterrence to basically the maximum extent. And on offense obviously that starting 5 has excellent scoring options from 30ft to 1ft from the rim at will all game long. Their offense would be genuinely impossible to really mitigate and your only hope of clawing anything back would be when they go to their second squad.
and if that second squad is just the 72 Lakers with a healthy Elgin Baylor, and Future HOFer Anthony Davis over Happy Hairston, how much chance do you really have.
I want West, Baylor and Wilt as starters, and if that means Kobe, LeBron and Shaq will have to wait on the bench, then that's what they'll have to do.
For West, we only have steals for his very last season in the league - and there, a way post-prime West averages 2.6 SPG, which is more than Kobe ever scored. He's an elite passer, and between him and Magic, the ball will get where it's needed.
With West, the primary advantage of LeBron over Baylor becomes less relevant - Magic and West will be the floor generals, and the top-three can focus on scoring, which is where Baylor shines. His 61/62 season is actually the highest scoring season average by anyone not named Wilt Chamberlain, which Baylor did while also averaging 18.6 rebounds and 4.6 assists. He also played for the Lakers in that season, unlike LeBron who was significantly older and past his prime when he put on the gold and purple.
Wilt is obvious - he's just plain better at everything than Shaq. Shaq's bad enough at free throws that he doesn't even have that going for him. Wilt could outscore him, even post-injury Wilt, but since Wilt was a laker before his knees gave up, we don't have to settle for anything less than a hale Big Dipper who has learned to play as part of a team under Alex Hannum. Also, I want him and Kareem playing as twin towers, because of the sheer ludicrousness.
Totally agree on Wilt. He would destroy fat-ass Shaq on both ends of the boards. He’s faster, stronger, quicker, more athletic and has much more stamina than Shaq. Better scorer and rebounder along with dishing the ball for assists. The only thing Shaq might be better than Wilt is in rapping!
Shaq gets the nod based on he is more current and still seen on TV. Kills me when Shaq is given the top slot over not only Wilt but also Kareem.
Wilt's play style could also fit the Power Forward position. He had a great mid-range game thanks to his Fadeaway jumper similar to Dirk. But I have to agree with this list. Wilt doesn't have any former teammate in the starting positions and with Kareem as the starting 4, this team really needs a great back-up center. It's crazy to think that Wilt and Kareem were past their primes during their time in the Lakers but still contributed greatly for the team to win championships.
Great team but….. I thought it was a bit of a cop-out putting Kareem at the 4 spot. He’s a center through-and-through. Got to make the tough decisions Johnny. Only 1 center on each starting 5. 😂
In the starting 5 there are 4 of the top 8 leading scorers in NBA history and the other guy is the greatest passer ever💀
For a few mins there you had me questioning my memory of where mikan played lol.
The 13 players chosen are all deserving and you can't really argue against them. However because he led the lakers to 5 championships that set the foundation for what became a dynasty, i'd have to replace Pau with 2 rings with George Mikan with 5. Great video though dude keep up the good work.
Pau was their 2 last one and maybe most impressive and kind of unexpected.
I was kinda surprised Mikan wasn’t on this team but again kinda stacked bigs
I would push Kareem to the starting unit, then either put Jerry or AD in the starting lineup
In either case you would have much better spacing, especially with Jerry at the 2 and then Kobe and LeBron at the 3 and 4… but AD would not only add better spacing than Kareem, he would also make them vastly superior defensively, Kareem and Shaq are too slow footed in the perimeter to be put together defensively
Dope team
This team is so crazy good it almost isn't fair to the other ultimate teams.
This is the ultimate franchise team
I'd say the Bulls are still the best. Jordan wins everytime he has a 7 footer. He would have Artis Gilmore and Probably Cartright. They would have the size overall to defend and score inside. Bulls Win the Possessions cause of Pippen and Rodman. Also Jordan is the 5th best in that. So 3 of the top 5 in Possessions Gained. So the Bulls will get 20 more shots it doesn't matter who they play. They they win on Scoring cause of Jordan and they win on Wing Defense and Fast breaks because of Jordan and Pippen.
I called it before. Worthy Pau and copper for last 3. Great minds think alike lol