I've been reading the comments and I feel like I probably worded what I was trying to say wrong. I'm not necessarily saying that the air defense is useless because it is weak, since it is one of the strongest things against air troops, but i'm saying it's useless because you can just lightning spell all 4 of them, meaning they can't function and are therefore "useless" in the battle. Plus, the lava hounds can also distract them long enough for them to be unable to do much damage to the balloons, which once again makes them almost "useless" in that situation. Sorry for any confusion, just thought I'd clear that up.
The fact that you need to lightning them all for many air attacks proves how useful they are. Those are valuable spell slots you need to invest in destroying them.
So in other words, they use up attackers spells which keeps other defences safe which if used properly can ruin the attack... In my view that already made them useful. If attacker starts zapping out infernoes, would you call them useless?
I'm happy that this person gave me a quick laugh because this video is very inaccurate but i'm also not happy because i feel like i wasted my time on this very inaccurate video
Just because people destroy them using lightning spells doesn’t make them useless in those levels, infact it’s more useful, the spells used on the air defenses can’t be used on the other air targeting defenses, if you didn’t have air defenses then those buildings that target both become the new target of the spells or they start using more rage spells or something
Picking off the air defenses though reduces enemy firepower by a good extent. In TH12, destroying all 4 air defenses and spamming edrags with a rage gem warden can guarantee stars.
yes this video is really bad, air defenses are crucial for air attacks, lavaloons obliterate any army but outside this they usually get destroyed by lightnings spells and that's massive
Wow, its the most important bait for the lightning spells, but that was it I dont know wether a thing called air defence should just be a bait for spells
@@jojotv9383 that's the reason air troops can't 3 star very often, currently it's easy because defense is weak at th16 but with full th16 update air troops gets blocked by air defense very important those spell slots are crucial
so you did admit that the air defence is really strong. if your opponent has to spend all his spell slots to destroy your air defence isnt that a just because they are so strong? dealing 500 dmg to air troops wile getting +40 or +60 damage per upgrade is a roi that almost no other tower offers espeacially when compared to stuff like the archer towers or teslas which can only gain +10 damage per upgrade. theres a big reason why most people focus on their air defences before upgrading stuff like mortars, canons, archer towers or teslas. honestly I think you kinda missed the mark on this one even tho a lot of your early game complaints ring true
i see them like glass cannons they are really powerful if you forget to kill them, but they go down so easily that it’s not really a big deal. like you either choose to dump your spells into eagle artillery or inferno towers, or you dump spells into air defense. they are weak because of opportunity cost.
@@greg-un7bk if they use spells on your air defenses then they cant use heal/rage and stuff to support your other defenses. And by your point every defense is weak bcz you can destroy it with zaps. Think about it.
Worst CoC take I've heard in a while. Who hates air defenses? Never heard anyone complain, and I play the game 10 years. It is a good defense with a unique function that does its job well.
@@silverfirework Well, using your logic I can say that any defense that targets ground troops is "useless" in TH16 now because of how OP root riders spam is...
@@aptibabayt 1 month ago yeah pure root rider spam but ATM its queen charge with root rider which not spam. Ad is still mid higher THs and lower its just gets zapped
@@randomuruk7230not nonsense, i've been making base by myself and made sure to make them so electro cant chain to important buildings, my average defense against electro were 1 star because they couldnt chain and i bet the attacker couldnt understand why
With how the Air defense are rockets it could make sense to have them deal area damage to troops. It would make them more usefull against Baloons and dragons
It would be unbalnced. The game already have scatter shot and mutli target inferno. 2 scatterband 3 multi is too much for balloons. On th 15 they can be raged by rage spell. So if the air defense got buffed to do AOE damage, it's too much noob
No clue what this guys talking about, air defenses do 500 damage per second, they are definitely very good. The problem at hand is that instead of a diverse ways of defense for ground (such as bombs towers, cannons, and mortars), they needed to make up for the fact that those didn’t target air, so they have one defense which does a ton of damage to balance it out, which can be considered poor design at worst. Either way though, it works out just fine, and this video is sorta pointless.
The air defense itself is not useless, just feels like it when it's been powercrept by so many other harder hitting defenses that can either hit harder or multi-target/does splash. Air defenses nowadays are used like the mortars: to annoy people who wants to funnel lol
They’re so good that you have to spend the first part of your attack full focusing them, because if you don’t, you’re guaranteed to fail. The point in this video is nonexistent
Am at town hall nine and I get sweeped by all types of attacks and my air stuff does nothing to them lava hounds cover and the balloons kill everything else
Town hall 10 and up, the inferno tower makes you choose between wanting to freeze spell inferno towers and going for a ground defense or taking down 3 air defenses with 11 lightning spells but praying the inferno towers don’t shred your dragons.
People zapping out all 4 air defenses can actually be a good thing, as backwards as it sounds. The 2 main reasons for it is the obvious “attacker has no more spells after that” which means that the remaining scattershots, inferno towers, air xbows and the eagle all have free real estate to dumpster your army. The other reason is because lava hounds will just move from defense to defense, moving with the balloons or dragons instead of flying ahead to protect them like they’re supposed to. This results in air traps being far more effective since the chances of them being tripped by a lava hound is significantly lower since the hound is just moving inside the pack instead of ahead of it, thus not protecting shit
honestly, it's really nice to have these videos- learning a lot of stuff even i didn't know as a multi-year player, having these documentary style videos is unlike anything in the clash of clans community ATM, and it's really nice to see that niche fulfilled. dunno if you'll read this, but keep it up disfunctional!
@@Connaruto I'm curious, you've left atleast 3 comments on this exact video, and all of them have been hate, even to a basic positive comment to a TH-camr I happen to like. Is there something going on in your life? Why are you being so negative on the internet of all places???
i totally understand you and dont understand why people are hating. its only job is to defeat air attacks, and other buildings do its job better while also defending against ground attacks. overall great video, been binging your channel for a couple days now. keep up the great work.
I don't think ADs are useless at all. They have enough power that they must have and that keeps a balance between attacks and defences. Increasing the ADs power will till the balance of power towards defences. I've been using lava loon since th9 and now I'm in th12. And my other rushed base is th14 and I use lava loon in that one as well.
(from the perspective of a current th10 player, upper town halls can give a different perspective than mine). down here the problem with the air defense is that they're just too powerful of a defense that they have to be taken out first in air attacks and this results in them becoming a priority in all air-based attacks. For dragons this often means enough zaps to take out 3 air defenses max then sending all of your troops towards the last one and taking it out first. rendering them obsolete besides taking up spell space for the rest of the attack . for blizzard/electrone lalo the strategy revolves around taking out at least 1 air defense minimum along cc and queen; while heroes attempt to take out another air defense. Failing to take out 2 air defenses minimum with the combination of heroes + blimp can result in failure as you have to use one hound alongside your blimp for reliable blimp results, leaving you only with 2 Air defenses remaining and 2 lava hounds. Air defenses are always a priority when attacking with air troops which is why they'll always seem to have the least impact in a battle in comparison to air sweepers, enemy eagle, inferno towers, and x bows which are taken out later in these attacks. Of course the strength of any defense is only as strong as the skill of the attacker, if you're skilled it doesn't matter if the enemy base is maxxed or if they have strong cc and high level heroes. 3 star capable players will always find a way to 3 star. In this game your base is at the mercy of the enemy's skill. PS and slightly unrelated but to help vs queen walks and queencharges: while queen charges arent't inherently an air attack the air defense isn't entirely useless vs queen charges when properly placed in a base. they should always be 5 tiles away from the queen so that the air defenses can snipe enemy healers while the queen can't reach them; having air defenses in adjacent compartments can help vs queen charges since the enemy will often only bring enough wallbreakers to only open one or 2 compartments exposing only one air defense while the other adjacent one can fire free attacks vs the enemy healers.
Title: Why it's hated Thumbnail: It's useless The video: It's one of the highest priority targets The pinned comment: Perhaps my message was improperly conveyed Bruh, then change the thumbnail and the title to actually reflect the content of the video.
I think increasing the hp and range of the air defense would make sense, doesnt need more damage it just needs to be more expensive to lightning it and a bit more range would help for obvious reasons.
I think it would be nice if the Air Defense got the same mechanic as the Multi-Archer tower where it can be multi target but can be single target with all the damage combined.
Geared up air defense with that mechanic sounds nice tbh, i have no idea why air defense is the only basic defense that doesn't receive geared up option yet
they are not bad at all. Firstly, e drags are really base dependent, with a decent base you will evade any attempts of 3 starring from enemy e drag attacks. Wondering why pros dont spam e drags? They suck against actual good bases. Secondly, air defenses play a role not also in dealing damage but LURING the lava hounds to an no-so-great spot. This means that if you want to do a blizzard for example, and the air defenses are away from the th, you will not be able to get your blimp in the th, which means that your heroes have to take it (from a lalo perspective) since ballons are really vulnerable to the th defense. Finally, if, as you say, just use all your spells to blast through the AD's you will have to do an attack with little to no spells, which means that your troops become really vulnerable to heavier defenses like infernos, scatters etc... So i dont see where they are weak, they are certainly helpfull since you need to work around them or use tons of spells for them. (also using zaps for AD's doesnt work on a high level thats why you dont see anyone doing it in tournaments).
also another note, in higher th your AD's start to 2 shot ballons. This shows how the damage ratio that they receive is really good compared to what ballons get.
I mean, it's true... yes they are extremely strong, that's why people destroy them with lightning spells. But because this is such a common strategy, your air defences never really get to shine, in turn becoming "useless" In other words, them being so powerful that they are just destroyed right at the start of the game, makes them useless. You just get no use of them other than drawing all the lightning to them
@@mirac8803 air defence is so powerful that you fill your army with lighting spells. However, this means that you wont get to access other powerful spells
@@JinLin-s8g In a way, it's both true and I get both views. Air defense is not useless in the way that attackers don't need to pay attention to it and can ignore it, and they are »powerful« in the way tbat they kinda force most players to use all lightning spells. However, that's simultaneously the problem... then their only use is being spell-bait in most attacks, and then they go swarming your base with air troops which your air defenses would obviously be very helpful against. I haven't really played CoC anymore in many years, only when I was quite young, and the game has changed a LOT since then of course. However, it does not feel really motivating to me to upgrade air defenses only for them to act as lightning spell-hotspots, just like how upgrading walls at some point is only for dumping recources if root riders can just stroll through them like shit xD
one more thing is, at around th 10 or 11 I forgot, basically when you can use a max earthquake spell, instead of 3 zap per AD, you can use 2 zap and an earthquake and produce the same result, heck if they're inside the earthquake range, you can took out 2 AD with just 5 spell slot rather than 6, saving the other 5 for either full zaps again or something like rage or freeze to help with tactical situation
they overbuffed air attacks so much because of zap. My base still get 3 starred even with 4 maxed air defense and spams dragon in one place with no funneling in TH9-10. In Th8 they have it even more rough, leaving only 1 air defense. Good thing it gotten so much better over time
Since hero equipment update, I have started using dragons again . I use giant arrow to destroy 2 air defence and remaining with lightning, and boom you will win
I think they should give air defense splash since it is a firework after all, doesnt need to be something big, maybe does like a quarter of the normal damage it does to troops that get hit by it, so like if it does 100 dmg it would deal 25 to splashed troops and 100 to the troop its targetting if that makes sense
@@puffrfisherLook at the top level play balloons die in 2 shot from ad and get oneshoted by raged scatter. Balloon do the most damage with reason becuse they are insanely skill dependent troop.
I’d agree with this contrary to others, they are useless in both air and ground attacks because ground attacks don’t matter and air attacks always have lighting spells
The lightning spell has only a single use its to take down air defences if they dont exsest youl face e dar rage and ice spell 100% youl always get 3 started by e drags
Normally I agree with your videos or at least find them informative. But I disagree with this one. I've had many air attacks destroyed because I didn't target air defenses. I've also won multiple defenses because the attacker ignores or fails to funnel towards the air defense. Actually I end up using ground army's because I don't want to deal with it at all.
In my opinion, the lightning spell argument isn’t really fair since it costs attackers all but one or two spells depending on their town hall. If the defenses are spread out, no spell support can make destroying the rest of the base very difficult
if people are choosing to zap all of the air defenses, doesn't that make them strong? if you choose to zap all of the air defenses with 12 zaps, you now have to do the rest of your attack with basically no spells.
WAIT SINCE WHEN THEY ARE USELESS???? they are so important that some strategies at lower town halls completely relies on pre-emptively destroy all them with lightning 😮. If they were so "useless" like archer towers no one would use lightning spell on them
I actually dont mind E-Dragons. I don't find them overpowered like people say it is, the reason why is because most E-Drags attacks ive seen always gets 1 star and 2 stars, especially in home base and the 3 star attacks is because the base they're attacking is either rushed or a th lower than them. The only thing i hate about E-Drags is my clanmates using it on war and getting the most painful looking 2 stars ive ever seen
I'm TH14, I use e-drags, it's pretty op. I average on 2* 85%. I use 9 e-drags, 6 balloons and 11 bat spells, in CC I have battle drill, super dragon, balloon, rage and freeze spell. I use bat spells to destroy artilerry (there must be no multi targer infernos, scattershots or wizard towers in reach, then I place drill and champion together, ballons, e-drags and all three heroes in one line or around one corner. I use freeze for annoying defences or TH, rage to increase damage and warden to use make them imortal while destroing TH.
"The air defense is the only defense in the game made to specifically combat air troops" Air bombs (builder base thing) and air sweeper: "Am I a joke to you?"
The air defense is still one of the strongest defenses against air attacks... Hell people prioritize the air defenses to take out with either spells or heroes before starting the air attack
The air defence is top 5 ish best defences as it deals insane damage to air troops, the only good point there was is that there is lava hounds which are built for air defences and this is needed to stop the air defences from being overly powerful and dominant
TBH, Air defense is the second highest DPS building in home village the first being the single Inferno Tower. Having 600 DPS on max level with high range is what makes this building a threat to most air units and its also vulnerable by few lightning spells and swarms due to its low HP. I could say that Air defense is useful and important since it is OP on lower town halls.
i bloody agree seriously i always max out my air defence to the highest possible for my hall but EVERYTIME even against a STUPID DRAGON and a bunch of air balloons it either doesnt do enough damage or simply just sucks since it gets rushed to easily seriously it should have a hard buff on its hp and minor buff on its damage and honestly it shoots fireworks so it should deal splash damage to encourage players to not cram 723847618726498176 air balloons in one place this literally forces me to cram my air bombs and air mines near the air defences or outside the base in hopes itll hit something and slow down a rushed air assault and also now i got funni skeleton traps i switch most to anti air mode
after 7 years of not playing the game, ive rushed my townhall to lvl 13, the first defence ive upgraded to max were the 4 air defences, ive never been 3 starred by dragons/edrags since.
The only use for air defenses at this point is to use their spells up so your key defenses aren't hit instead. That's weird though cause people lightning the defense but it's considered useless. If it's actually useless than you can ignore it. They do a considerable amount of damage so they aren't really as useless as you suggest. That'd be like saying a cat is weak because a dog can kill it easily. They're just facing an overpowered strategy.
I say more health and multy targets as you level them up, max 3 targets when maxed, no idea when do extra targets come, but at 11-13 should be at least 2 per air defense.
imo air defenses are pretty balanced, of course signature defenses are stronger than it because signature defenses are key defenses while air defenses are stronger cannons for air troops. plus if you ignore them it becomes a huge problem so it doesn't need a damage buff. air defenses aren't meant to be special it meant to be a way to defend against air troops like cannons
This video is just wrong. As a dedicated Disfunctional fan, I must rectify some of his mistakes. I am sorry if this sounds too harsh. The fact that you have to use all of your spell slots to take them down makes them useful. You can also take down the Eagle Artillery and the Monolith with lightning spell. Does that make them useless? No! They are quite useful. And the fact that there is a specific troop (lava hound) which counters the air defense makes them even more special! There is also the headhunter which targets heroes. Does that make heros useless? No! (upgrading heroes is useless, heroes themselves are a core part of an attack) If there is any circumstance where any air defenses are left, they are an absolute nightmare! In th 4, that is more of a game balancing issue than an air defense issue. In th7, well dragons are just too OP. You can't really stop them at all. Every defense struggles to defend them. You wouldn't really call the archer towers "useless" if they can't stop dragons. The air sweepers themselves are not OP, the air sweepers paired with other defenses, especially the air defense is OP. What is the air sweeper gonna do on its own? Push the troops? That would at max cause a time fail. I completely disagree with you at the end. The air defense are absolutely the best against air troops. You HAVE to have air defenses at max level to have a shot at defending your base. You at least have a chance of defending if they are maxed. You have 0% chance of defending if they are low level. In conclusion, the air defenses are a core part of the base, just like the cannons, archer towers, wizard towers, x-bows, inferno towers, eagle artillery, scattershots and monolith.
Air defenses are not useless, people using all their spells to destroy only 4 buildings instead of having rages or freezing spells means they are so valuable the attacker finds it worth it to attack without spells just to remove them from the equation
No idea what this guys talking about, air defenses are pretty balanced and the fact that you need to dedicate all your spell slots to take them out shows how strong they are
At TH5 to TH6 air defenses can be taken out extremely easily with balloons(very ewsy 3 star) Use all lightning defense to tske out the AA closest to the base core Then send in 7 to 8 balloons as close to remainijg AA defense as possible, deploy remaining balloons near AA defense systems/close to the AA attack balloon squad Easy 3 star even at TH7 sometimes unless enemy has baby dragon in clown castle
air defence isnt useless its an important defence if can also take down queen charge attacks and electro dragons which are common attacks in th 11, 12 and 13
At th11 I'm prioritising eagle , inferno, xbows, tesla, wizard, at last air defence. You know if the enemy is going air then they will likely zap it so it is useless to prioritise.
I've been reading the comments and I feel like I probably worded what I was trying to say wrong. I'm not necessarily saying that the air defense is useless because it is weak, since it is one of the strongest things against air troops, but i'm saying it's useless because you can just lightning spell all 4 of them, meaning they can't function and are therefore "useless" in the battle. Plus, the lava hounds can also distract them long enough for them to be unable to do much damage to the balloons, which once again makes them almost "useless" in that situation. Sorry for any confusion, just thought I'd clear that up.
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The fact that you need to lightning them all for many air attacks proves how useful they are. Those are valuable spell slots you need to invest in destroying them.
Change the title of the video since the air defense is everything but hated as you can see
Something isn't useless just because there is a counter to it
So in other words, they use up attackers spells which keeps other defences safe which if used properly can ruin the attack... In my view that already made them useful.
If attacker starts zapping out infernoes, would you call them useless?
So apperantly being a high priority target that you NEED to dedicate your entire spell slot to get rid of all 4 is useless...
I'm happy that this person gave me a quick laugh because this video is very inaccurate but i'm also not happy because i feel like i wasted my time on this very inaccurate video
You are goddamn right
Air defense zap is so meaningless after th10
If you didn't have to dedicate 9-12 spell slots to air defenses. Air troops would 100% every base in the game zero effort.
@@ozmobozo true and air defence zap only works if they are placed together
Just because people destroy them using lightning spells doesn’t make them useless in those levels, infact it’s more useful, the spells used on the air defenses can’t be used on the other air targeting defenses, if you didn’t have air defenses then those buildings that target both become the new target of the spells or they start using more rage spells or something
you are right. in my opinion this video is useless.
Exactly
@@buttersalad117 tbh, disfunctional has been slipping on content ideas recently. Just a lot of pointless bashing
exactly what i was thinking
Picking off the air defenses though reduces enemy firepower by a good extent. In TH12, destroying all 4 air defenses and spamming edrags with a rage gem warden can guarantee stars.
Tbh the air defense is really important in my eyes
same its so good against electro dragon
yes this video is really bad, air defenses are crucial for air attacks, lavaloons obliterate any army but outside this they usually get destroyed by lightnings spells and that's massive
Wow, its the most important bait for the lightning spells, but that was it
I dont know wether a thing called air defence should just be a bait for spells
@@jojotv9383 that's the reason air troops can't 3 star very often, currently it's easy because defense is weak at th16 but with full th16 update air troops gets blocked by air defense very important those spell slots are crucial
With time they just get replaced by more effective damage dealers like Inferno Tower,Monolith and Scatter Shot
so you did admit that the air defence is really strong. if your opponent has to spend all his spell slots to destroy your air defence isnt that a just because they are so strong? dealing 500 dmg to air troops wile getting +40 or +60 damage per upgrade is a roi that almost no other tower offers espeacially when compared to stuff like the archer towers or teslas which can only gain +10 damage per upgrade. theres a big reason why most people focus on their air defences before upgrading stuff like mortars, canons, archer towers or teslas. honestly I think you kinda missed the mark on this one even tho a lot of your early game complaints ring true
But thats also why its kinda weak. You can just not deal with it by bringing zap making air troops even better
i see them like glass cannons
they are really powerful if you forget to kill them, but they go down so easily that it’s not really a big deal. like you either choose to dump your spells into eagle artillery or inferno towers, or you dump spells into air defense. they are weak because of opportunity cost.
@@greg-un7bk if they use spells on your air defenses then they cant use heal/rage and stuff to support your other defenses. And by your point every defense is weak bcz you can destroy it with zaps. Think about it.
@@cxst0r715 the other main defenses are a lot tankier. Good luck zapping down an inferno, Xbow, eagle arty, scatter, or monolith
@@r2020Ei do take down infernos and x bows using zaps as they are usually clumped with the air defences
Disfuncional in 2027 be like: why the grass is so HATED in clash of clans?
初めて草の事件を聞いたとき、私は衝撃を受けました。まるで、そんなことが起こったことが本当に信じられない。誰がこんな嫌な思いをしながら草の上を歩くだろうか...マジでクラッシュ・オブ・クランは決して同じではない...
This guy is really pushing and finding nothing to get his money from this useless video.. he has a PhD in yapping
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@@Connarutolmaoooooo ikr
frrrr
Worst CoC take I've heard in a while. Who hates air defenses? Never heard anyone complain, and I play the game 10 years. It is a good defense with a unique function that does its job well.
Its mid at best if at higher THs. Almost useless th10 - 12 cause it's just dragon spam even th7 - 9 it's still dragon spam
@@silverfirework Well, using your logic I can say that any defense that targets ground troops is "useless" in TH16 now because of how OP root riders spam is...
@@aptibabayt 1 month ago yeah pure root rider spam but ATM its queen charge with root rider which not spam. Ad is still mid higher THs and lower its just gets zapped
Son players. Use all thier spells to destroy them that makes them loose all thier spell@@silverfirework
@@silverfirework air defence take down lalo attakcs which are common in higher townhall its one of the most important defence with very high dps
When you get 3-Stared by 5 Electro dragon spam attacks in a row, you will very quickly want to upgrade air defence 🤣
Electro dragons can only 1 star if you have good design and not rushed base , air defenses are pretty solid
@@notfalconit depends on the skill of the attacker even if it's a maxed base
@@notfalcon Nonsense, electro dragons are ez 3 stars until th 14
@@randomuruk7230not nonsense, i've been making base by myself and made sure to make them so electro cant chain to important buildings, my average defense against electro were 1 star because they couldnt chain and i bet the attacker couldnt understand why
With how the Air defense are rockets it could make sense to have them deal area damage to troops. It would make them more usefull against Baloons and dragons
It funny how they did builder base air defense better than the main base XD
merge air defense
It would be unbalnced. The game already have scatter shot and mutli target inferno. 2 scatterband 3 multi is too much for balloons. On th 15 they can be raged by rage spell. So if the air defense got buffed to do AOE damage, it's too much noob
@@nightterror8775 no shit coc arent simualator
@@Silver_Bird_AOW3 if they caused damage to one main troop and less to the troops afected by the splash it could be fair
The base design at 2:00😭
im dead💀💀💀💀
Best base design ever
Bruh
WE'RE GETTING REJECTED IN ART SCHOOL FOR THIS ONE🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
The goblin at 2:13
No clue what this guys talking about, air defenses do 500 damage per second, they are definitely very good. The problem at hand is that instead of a diverse ways of defense for ground (such as bombs towers, cannons, and mortars), they needed to make up for the fact that those didn’t target air, so they have one defense which does a ton of damage to balance it out, which can be considered poor design at worst. Either way though, it works out just fine, and this video is sorta pointless.
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2:56 “most of the time you don’t even notice the air defense”
also the air defense dismantling the entire attack alone:
The air defense itself is not useless, just feels like it when it's been powercrept by so many other harder hitting defenses that can either hit harder or multi-target/does splash. Air defenses nowadays are used like the mortars: to annoy people who wants to funnel lol
And to kill your healers
They’re so good that you have to spend the first part of your attack full focusing them, because if you don’t, you’re guaranteed to fail. The point in this video is nonexistent
Am at town hall nine and I get sweeped by all types of attacks and my air stuff does nothing to them lava hounds cover and the balloons kill everything else
Southern teaser base works wonders
the fact that people spend all their spells destroying them shows that they are actually useful
2:00 Looks like someone got rejected from art school 😭
So you're saying that this could have caused Hitler?
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Town hall 10 and up, the inferno tower makes you choose between wanting to freeze spell inferno towers and going for a ground defense or taking down 3 air defenses with 11 lightning spells but praying the inferno towers don’t shred your dragons.
People zapping out all 4 air defenses can actually be a good thing, as backwards as it sounds. The 2 main reasons for it is the obvious “attacker has no more spells after that” which means that the remaining scattershots, inferno towers, air xbows and the eagle all have free real estate to dumpster your army. The other reason is because lava hounds will just move from defense to defense, moving with the balloons or dragons instead of flying ahead to protect them like they’re supposed to. This results in air traps being far more effective since the chances of them being tripped by a lava hound is significantly lower since the hound is just moving inside the pack instead of ahead of it, thus not protecting shit
1:58 woah hold on. I didnt know we are learning about history now
honestly, it's really nice to have these videos- learning a lot of stuff even i didn't know as a multi-year player, having these documentary style videos is unlike anything in the clash of clans community ATM, and it's really nice to see that niche fulfilled. dunno if you'll read this, but keep it up disfunctional!
This guy is a certified yapper
@@Connaruto I'm curious, you've left atleast 3 comments on this exact video, and all of them have been hate, even to a basic positive comment to a TH-camr I happen to like. Is there something going on in your life? Why are you being so negative on the internet of all places???
could be a bot but it looks like they are most likely bored@@aydenlessels5550
@@aydenlessels5550He just gets stuff wrong all the time. Not a reliable source for information at all.
Don’t trust this channel, he’s spreading misinformation
Air defence is pretty useless in my eyes considering that my defence log is full of dragon and ballon attacks
i totally understand you and dont understand why people are hating. its only job is to defeat air attacks, and other buildings do its job better while also defending against ground attacks. overall great video, been binging your channel for a couple days now. keep up the great work.
I don't think ADs are useless at all. They have enough power that they must have and that keeps a balance between attacks and defences. Increasing the ADs power will till the balance of power towards defences. I've been using lava loon since th9 and now I'm in th12. And my other rushed base is th14 and I use lava loon in that one as well.
If you can't reach to them they are so strong you have to take air defence or other defence also damaging
(from the perspective of a current th10 player, upper town halls can give a different perspective than mine). down here the problem with the air defense is that they're just too powerful of a defense that they have to be taken out first in air attacks and this results in them becoming a priority in all air-based attacks.
For dragons this often means enough zaps to take out 3 air defenses max then sending all of your troops towards the last one and taking it out first. rendering them obsolete besides taking up spell space for the rest of the attack . for blizzard/electrone lalo the strategy revolves around taking out at least 1 air defense minimum along cc and queen; while heroes attempt to take out another air defense. Failing to take out 2 air defenses minimum with the combination of heroes + blimp can result in failure as you have to use one hound alongside your blimp for reliable blimp results, leaving you only with 2 Air defenses remaining and 2 lava hounds.
Air defenses are always a priority when attacking with air troops which is why they'll always seem to have the least impact in a battle in comparison to air sweepers, enemy eagle, inferno towers, and x bows which are taken out later in these attacks.
Of course the strength of any defense is only as strong as the skill of the attacker, if you're skilled it doesn't matter if the enemy base is maxxed or if they have strong cc and high level heroes. 3 star capable players will always find a way to 3 star. In this game your base is at the mercy of the enemy's skill.
PS and slightly unrelated but to help vs queen walks and queencharges: while queen charges arent't inherently an air attack the air defense isn't entirely useless vs queen charges when properly placed in a base. they should always be 5 tiles away from the queen so that the air defenses can snipe enemy healers while the queen can't reach them; having air defenses in adjacent compartments can help vs queen charges since the enemy will often only bring enough wallbreakers to only open one or 2 compartments exposing only one air defense while the other adjacent one can fire free attacks vs the enemy healers.
Title: Why it's hated
Thumbnail: It's useless
The video: It's one of the highest priority targets
The pinned comment: Perhaps my message was improperly conveyed
Bruh, then change the thumbnail and the title to actually reflect the content of the video.
Air defence should do splash damage as it bursts in sky
Understand my broken English
A firecracker gear-up for one of your air defences could also help, assuming it doesn’t get lightning-spelled.
I think increasing the hp and range of the air defense would make sense, doesnt need more damage it just needs to be more expensive to lightning it and a bit more range would help for obvious reasons.
I think it would be nice if the Air Defense got the same mechanic as the Multi-Archer tower where it can be multi target but can be single target with all the damage combined.
A geared up air defense
Would make sense as 4 rockets sticking out of it, why dont fire all at once?
Geared up air defense with that mechanic sounds nice tbh, i have no idea why air defense is the only basic defense that doesn't receive geared up option yet
It would do nothing, air defense is fine the problem is that lightning is toxic
they are not bad at all. Firstly, e drags are really base dependent, with a decent base you will evade any attempts of 3 starring from enemy e drag attacks. Wondering why pros dont spam e drags? They suck against actual good bases. Secondly, air defenses play a role not also in dealing damage but LURING the lava hounds to an no-so-great spot. This means that if you want to do a blizzard for example, and the air defenses are away from the th, you will not be able to get your blimp in the th, which means that your heroes have to take it (from a lalo perspective) since ballons are really vulnerable to the th defense. Finally, if, as you say, just use all your spells to blast through the AD's you will have to do an attack with little to no spells, which means that your troops become really vulnerable to heavier defenses like infernos, scatters etc...
So i dont see where they are weak, they are certainly helpfull since you need to work around them or use tons of spells for them. (also using zaps for AD's doesnt work on a high level thats why you dont see anyone doing it in tournaments).
also another note, in higher th your AD's start to 2 shot ballons. This shows how the damage ratio that they receive is really good compared to what ballons get.
Disfunctional: people dedicate 6 housing space of spells to take them down, so we can infer that they are useless and do nothing
I mean, it's true... yes they are extremely strong, that's why people destroy them with lightning spells.
But because this is such a common strategy, your air defences never really get to shine, in turn becoming "useless"
In other words, them being so powerful that they are just destroyed right at the start of the game, makes them useless. You just get no use of them other than drawing all the lightning to them
@@mirac8803And you think drawing all lighting is being useless?
@@mirac8803 air defence is so powerful that you fill your army with lighting spells. However, this means that you wont get to access other powerful spells
@@JinLin-s8g In a way, it's both true and I get both views.
Air defense is not useless in the way that attackers don't need to pay attention to it and can ignore it, and they are »powerful« in the way tbat they kinda force most players to use all lightning spells.
However, that's simultaneously the problem... then their only use is being spell-bait in most attacks, and then they go swarming your base with air troops which your air defenses would obviously be very helpful against.
I haven't really played CoC anymore in many years, only when I was quite young, and the game has changed a LOT since then of course.
However, it does not feel really motivating to me to upgrade air defenses only for them to act as lightning spell-hotspots, just like how upgrading walls at some point is only for dumping recources if root riders can just stroll through them like shit xD
@@mirac8803 wall are simply bad
one more thing is, at around th 10 or 11 I forgot, basically when you can use a max earthquake spell, instead of 3 zap per AD, you can use 2 zap and an earthquake and produce the same result, heck if they're inside the earthquake range, you can took out 2 AD with just 5 spell slot rather than 6, saving the other 5 for either full zaps again or something like rage or freeze to help with tactical situation
they overbuffed air attacks so much because of zap. My base still get 3 starred even with 4 maxed air defense and spams dragon in one place with no funneling in TH9-10. In Th8 they have it even more rough, leaving only 1 air defense. Good thing it gotten so much better over time
why did bro show a swastika base at 2:02 😬
My thoughts bruh I was looking for this comment
They should seriously increase their health to take at least one more zap spell, and add a couple more air sweepers. It would balance it out I think.
Good thing you are not an employee at coc
😂
Hell no that woul kill evry air attack
Since hero equipment update, I have started using dragons again . I use giant arrow to destroy 2 air defence and remaining with lightning, and boom you will win
I think they should give air defense splash since it is a firework after all, doesnt need to be something big, maybe does like a quarter of the normal damage it does to troops that get hit by it, so like if it does 100 dmg it would deal 25 to splashed troops and 100 to the troop its targetting if that makes sense
Lol if air defence becomes splash then balloon should get removed from the game
@@Mememachineh Why?
@@puffrfisherLook at the top level play balloons die in 2 shot from ad and get oneshoted by raged scatter. Balloon do the most damage with reason becuse they are insanely skill dependent troop.
I’d agree with this contrary to others, they are useless in both air and ground attacks because ground attacks don’t matter and air attacks always have lighting spells
The fact you HAVE to dedicate your spells to taking out air defenses show how important they are
it only works from th 7 and th 8 from th 9 you cant use that strategy
The lightning spell has only a single use its to take down air defences if they dont exsest youl face e dar rage and ice spell 100% youl always get 3 started by e drags
4:24 i use that strategy. Love it.
Electro dragons x Lightning spell❤❤❤️
Normally I agree with your videos or at least find them informative. But I disagree with this one. I've had many air attacks destroyed because I didn't target air defenses. I've also won multiple defenses because the attacker ignores or fails to funnel towards the air defense. Actually I end up using ground army's because I don't want to deal with it at all.
Bro it completely destroyed my air strategy 💀
In my opinion, the lightning spell argument isn’t really fair since it costs attackers all but one or two spells depending on their town hall. If the defenses are spread out, no spell support can make destroying the rest of the base very difficult
2:14 why it zooming in 🤨🤨🤨
if people are choosing to zap all of the air defenses, doesn't that make them strong? if you choose to zap all of the air defenses with 12 zaps, you now have to do the rest of your attack with basically no spells.
WAIT SINCE WHEN THEY ARE USELESS???? they are so important that some strategies at lower town halls completely relies on pre-emptively destroy all them with lightning 😮. If they were so "useless" like archer towers no one would use lightning spell on them
And here I'm always working on these as soon as I complete the key defenses upgrades
Sometimes they're the first ones I upgrade so that they don't get 2-hit from lightning spells
multiple target and larger area cover can be good points for air defence to buff.
Air Defenses are hell to get through when attacking. I find them very useful
i actually find them to be good
He just hates everything, dont mind him
I actually dont mind E-Dragons. I don't find them overpowered like people say it is, the reason why is because most E-Drags attacks ive seen always gets 1 star and 2 stars, especially in home base and the 3 star attacks is because the base they're attacking is either rushed or a th lower than them. The only thing i hate about E-Drags is my clanmates using it on war and getting the most painful looking 2 stars ive ever seen
I'm TH14, I use e-drags, it's pretty op. I average on 2* 85%. I use 9 e-drags, 6 balloons and 11 bat spells, in CC I have battle drill, super dragon, balloon, rage and freeze spell. I use bat spells to destroy artilerry (there must be no multi targer infernos, scattershots or wizard towers in reach, then I place drill and champion together, ballons, e-drags and all three heroes in one line or around one corner. I use freeze for annoying defences or TH, rage to increase damage and warden to use make them imortal while destroing TH.
Bro is the only one saying the air defense is useless
MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THE BUILDER BASEEEEEEEEE
"The air defense is the only defense in the game made to specifically combat air troops"
Air bombs (builder base thing) and air sweeper: "Am I a joke to you?"
The air defense is still one of the strongest defenses against air attacks... Hell people prioritize the air defenses to take out with either spells or heroes before starting the air attack
Honestly your video showed me why the Air Defense is one of the strongest defenses in the game.
According to this guy, everything is hated
1:58 that th6 be giving me ww2 flashbacks
The air defence is top 5 ish best defences as it deals insane damage to air troops, the only good point there was is that there is lava hounds which are built for air defences and this is needed to stop the air defences from being overly powerful and dominant
TBH, Air defense is the second highest DPS building in home village the first being the single Inferno Tower. Having 600 DPS on max level with high range is what makes this building a threat to most air units and its also vulnerable by few lightning spells and swarms due to its low HP. I could say that Air defense is useful and important since it is OP on lower town halls.
I wonder what our new siege machine will be
i bloody agree seriously i always max out my air defence to the highest possible for my hall but EVERYTIME even against a STUPID DRAGON and a bunch of air balloons it either doesnt do enough damage or simply just sucks since it gets rushed to easily seriously it should have a hard buff on its hp and minor buff on its damage and honestly it shoots fireworks so it should deal splash damage to encourage players to not cram 723847618726498176 air balloons in one place
this literally forces me to cram my air bombs and air mines near the air defences or outside the base in hopes itll hit something and slow down a rushed air assault and also now i got funni skeleton traps i switch most to anti air mode
after 7 years of not playing the game, ive rushed my townhall to lvl 13, the first defence ive upgraded to max were the 4 air defences, ive never been 3 starred by dragons/edrags since.
The only use for air defenses at this point is to use their spells up so your key defenses aren't hit instead. That's weird though cause people lightning the defense but it's considered useless. If it's actually useless than you can ignore it. They do a considerable amount of damage so they aren't really as useless as you suggest. That'd be like saying a cat is weak because a dog can kill it easily. They're just facing an overpowered strategy.
Air defence usless ❌
This video useless ✅
My idea for a “rework” is upon destruction it would shoot all of its fireworks into the sky like a giga bomb but for the air
I say more health and multy targets as you level them up, max 3 targets when maxed, no idea when do extra targets come, but at 11-13 should be at least 2 per air defense.
You have to attack without spells because of air defence
I don’t take lightening in my army because of blimp so even today Air Defence is a threat so I usually use giant arrow to destroy at least two of them
imo air defenses are pretty balanced, of course signature defenses are stronger than it because signature defenses are key defenses while air defenses are stronger cannons for air troops. plus if you ignore them it becomes a huge problem so it doesn't need a damage buff. air defenses aren't meant to be special it meant to be a way to defend against air troops like cannons
This video is just wrong. As a dedicated Disfunctional fan, I must rectify some of his mistakes. I am sorry if this sounds too harsh. The fact that you have to use all of your spell slots to take them down makes them useful. You can also take down the Eagle Artillery and the Monolith with lightning spell. Does that make them useless? No! They are quite useful. And the fact that there is a specific troop (lava hound) which counters the air defense makes them even more special! There is also the headhunter which targets heroes. Does that make heros useless? No! (upgrading heroes is useless, heroes themselves are a core part of an attack) If there is any circumstance where any air defenses are left, they are an absolute nightmare! In th 4, that is more of a game balancing issue than an air defense issue. In th7, well dragons are just too OP. You can't really stop them at all. Every defense struggles to defend them. You wouldn't really call the archer towers "useless" if they can't stop dragons. The air sweepers themselves are not OP, the air sweepers paired with other defenses, especially the air defense is OP. What is the air sweeper gonna do on its own? Push the troops? That would at max cause a time fail. I completely disagree with you at the end. The air defense are absolutely the best against air troops. You HAVE to have air defenses at max level to have a shot at defending your base. You at least have a chance of defending if they are maxed. You have 0% chance of defending if they are low level. In conclusion, the air defenses are a core part of the base, just like the cannons, archer towers, wizard towers, x-bows, inferno towers, eagle artillery, scattershots and monolith.
As someone who knows nothing about strategy and only attacks with dragons, the air defense is the strongest one.
Air defenses are not useless, people using all their spells to destroy only 4 buildings instead of having rages or freezing spells means they are so valuable the attacker finds it worth it to attack without spells just to remove them from the equation
Dont Wall Breakers also target only one specific defense aka Walls?
As a dragon troop user myself, I say these are the biggest pain in my ass.
The air defense will always be “That defense” in my eyes.
They became so ignored in th16 (using most ground atks) that i often dropped my healers accidentally in range of AD during warden walks.
No idea what this guys talking about, air defenses are pretty balanced and the fact that you need to dedicate all your spell slots to take them out shows how strong they are
At TH5 to TH6 air defenses can be taken out extremely easily with balloons(very ewsy 3 star)
Use all lightning defense to tske out the AA closest to the base core
Then send in 7 to 8 balloons as close to remainijg AA defense as possible, deploy remaining balloons near AA defense systems/close to the AA attack balloon squad
Easy 3 star even at TH7 sometimes unless enemy has baby dragon in clown castle
I’d hardly call this defense useless when people have to waste spell slots just to destroy the air defense.
We see a lot of e-drag spam nowadays, I think the air defences are hard counters to these troops, so I wouldn't call them "Useless"
Not bothing to upgrade air defence is complete insanity! Air defense is super important
The fact that I can bring 6 lightning spell and snipe the remaining 2 with level 12 giant arrow, air defense in townhall 12 really is useless 😂
As a lightning spell + electro dragon enjoyer I must say I love the air defences
air defence isnt useless its an important defence if can also take down queen charge attacks and electro dragons which are common attacks in th 11, 12 and 13
With all the powerful defenses that are in the game, I would really not want the air defense to get buffer
I like how the backbone for bro’s entire argument is a singular reddit post
Bro what you smokin on ? They're literally the reason we are safe from E-Drags
Just maxed all mine. Glass cannons would best describe them..theyre pretty solid.
Reign of terror of the electro dragons is a fitting name
Maybe it should deal splash damage in a small radius , considering they shoot fireworks.
Being easier to counter doesn’t equal useless by any means.
Nice base at 1:59 😂
So the main problem for low th is the lack of base building capabilities lol. As long as u get attacked by same th's.
Lava hound: i gonna end this fireworks whole carrier
At th11 I'm prioritising eagle , inferno, xbows, tesla, wizard, at last air defence.
You know if the enemy is going air then they will likely zap it so it is useless to prioritise.
1:58 is that a swastika base. Ngl im inspired for my next base design
Bro is a master at yapping