They ruined the eagle effect of covering the entire village in range,now only a small range and it doesn't even shoot the same as eagle,it looks more like the lava launcher from builder hall
I disliked the eagle anyways. It was too overpowered. I shouldn't have to attack from whatever side the eagle is on. Makes the Meta way to predictable and bland. This makes it so anyone can attack from any side. As it should be
@@shiroemiya3953i think the exact opposite was the case. the eagle was the worst of the „special“ defenses and it was just weird to implement into your base because of the 4x4 size. also the housing requirements were way too complicated. which is why i welcome this change…
@@HolyCrusader5 well, th17 was expected to be harder because th16 was really easy. and it let down a lot of people for the desicions that the devs made. BUT, there is possibility that th18 would be very hard.
@hiraksonowal6602 yeah the eagle artillery had about 6000 hp, it restores that lost hp that came with the merge It is alot hp for a flying unit though...
Kinda true actually. We spent so many millions/hundreds of millions to upgrade both the townhalls and eagles. And we still gotta pay for making our bases weaker?
That's why I call this a maintenance update. Cause every town hall the cycle just repeats endlessly so it's ever harder to be truly maxed out without paying a dime.
i 100% agree with this. look i am not complaining about th17 I think it looks cool but they killed eagle. they should have kept its mechanism same as before with all the sounds and animation. eagle was the coolest defence in coc and they made it like a launcher
Keeping the main mechanism would have made it arguably easier to 3 star, as rather than having th on one side, and eagle on the other, now they would be together, and easy to snipe off.
The townhall in all the game play i saw is actually stronger than this video makes it seem, just watch Galadon gaming or Judo Sloth, Judo makes it look easy but it still takes some strategy to destroy and that's not with Max defenses and now you also have to consider the new Minion Prince is gonna be a very strong defense too on top of all the new levels
the eagle always been a critical point at my early times at clash of clans... i either aim for town hall and get two start graunted. or go to eagle and try get 3 stars
They probably will buff it, cuz its feel underwhelming at first... Especially when they see how high *3 percentage after update drop, if it is really that easy
The entire base most likely won't be easier to 3 star (due to the new defenses and defense levels), but the combined power of the townhall and the eagle is definitely worse than before. And what's even more important is that there is no Eagle and it's activation sound.
Yeah, hydra is easy. After my couple of attacks, TH17 is strong against heroes, but I had taken it down with Balloon clone, so I have no idea about meta currently...
Not me scanning the comments for someone else dying from "we have 4 Moe Tars, and merging the Moe Tars would conserve space just the same" Let's hear it for the MOE TARS!🎉🎉 I cringed everytime he said it!
The eagle was actually pretty irrelevant at higher town halls, so calling it the strongest defence is kind of strange. (Except if you use edrags or multiple hero charges)
Merging the collectors will negatively impact the game in multiple ways. Farming will become way too easy and greatly lower retention. Funneling becomes a lot easier with less trash buildings to worry about. Plus the eagle isn’t that good in the higher town halls. The current meta involves destroying it quickly and I’m glad they’re finally changing things up. Don’t forget they want to keep the game oriented to where it’s a village rather than this impenetrable fortress with barely any non-defensive buildings.
This is inevitable. I can understand your dilemma, however its important to note that supercell plans out the game two years in advance. Meaning they know what they want the game to be 2 years out at any given moment. With that being said it’s likely that they crafted some things for town hall 18 that made them realize the approaches they needed to take with town hall 17. In other words, town hall 17 needs to be a nice bridge for what is coming at town hall 18. While certain claims are backed with logical reasons and arguments for what players have access to, we have to remember that supercell isn’t thinking that way. They are thinking about the future of the game and how that impacts what you play with now. So while we might not like these changes, we will bear the fruits of their changes eventually. Itll take some getting used to.
I got your point. But the eagle is not as strong as it was like 5 years ago. And for your considerstion: they gave us the eagle as a reaction for the very strong golem attacks. So I think it was‘nt really they‘re idea that it will become such an iconic defense
Dang it ... I'm a fully maxed TH 16 and this is bad news. I completely agree that the 4 mortars merged would have been an EPIC option instead of the Eagle. Why Supercell ? Why !!!
When they say merge, I think eagle artillery just merging with its ability. What is this? Where is the longest attack artillery? So, the concept of merge is just an excuse to delete things in the game. Not to make it better but to delete it.
literally is just removing the long range attack. and it has a larger range than the previous th weapons. plus if it were to have the range as the eagle, that would be way too broken
@@HolyCrusader5 yeah but they could just merge it with mortar if that's gonna be its range I mean what will you choose mortar or eagle artillery from me I will gladly choose mortar
Something you need to understand is how many buildings are in the base, when you attack, each building equates to a percentage for the attack, when they reach 100 buildings which they have gotten to that point, something has to be done in order to keep the balance if they wanna keep adding cool new things to the game, I personally think the whole merging thing is a really interesting way to solve that problem, but complaining about it and thinking it’s bad isn’t gonna do anything at all, it’s a game at the end of the day and things change, sometimes you just gotta deal with it and move on and enjoy the game you love.
You're right-Clash of Clans may just be a game, but it's a game that's been around since 2012, nearly 14 years ago. Many players have been invested in it for that long, with some spending thousands on promotions and in-game purchases. The game has built a massive, dedicated community over the years. While it's true that things need to change to keep a game fresh, not all changes are improvements. For example, the new Town Hall 17 update looks great on paper, but the merge felt underwhelming for many. It's like going to the grocery store and only seeing produce because everything else is removed to prevent obesity-sure, it’s still food, but it’s not what people expect or want. Change should enhance the experience, not leave fans feeling disappointed even though u can't satisfy everyone but removing the strongest defense should be worldwide a nono removal of the 4 motars would've been more in line with this theme and they shit anyway imo
But they could have just merged the Mortars instead of the Eagle, that way we get rid of a bad defense while at the same time winning a lot more space.
@@byranttaylor1535 yes I agree, I know it may have come off as me defending the whole get rid of the artillery, it’s sad to see it go, and I feel like there are better ways to do the whole merge process, I see the mortars as a not so great defense in the game and they would be way better spent in the town hall, believe me I see how many possibilities they could take with the rest of the game as they progress, I just have no clue what they plan on doing as they continue to add more to the game, like hell we just got a new hero, what does that mean for the one we are gonna have to swap for it, I know what it’s like playing since the game ever came out, it’s been the longest staying app on my phone for as long as I can remember, I do think there could be something they can do to maybe make the town hall eagle more powerful so it keeps what we lost, I’m gonna miss hearing the activation of the eagle and the sounds of the blasts, I feel like they could have buffed it a lot more, I don’t quite understand why they felt the need to take the bomb out tho that will forever confuse me, but it all needs a buff
I completely agree with everything you said. I myself, don't like the eagle merge and the thrower troop of this update. It has lost its "eagle" meaning. An eagle is a bird with immense vision capabilities...which means infinite range. This is such a dumb move. Also, the firespitters are so lame. Idk what happened. They could've easily given 2 mini eagles instead of firespitters with a smaller range as compensation for merging the main one. Idk.
The thrower seems weird... Like we have a 16-HS troop with few HP and very little damage. Only somewhat long range but idk what the value offering is. Compared to the Electro Titan, which doubles the housing space, quadruples the HP, sacrifices all range but has an aura that attacks everything (on top of its vanilla attack). I'm missing something here.
A real murge would sum up the hitpoints and the damage of both defenses together. If you do the math the new defenses are weaker than its individuals defenses in TH15
@@rubenlohata5263 Lil bro obviously comes from "little brother" which I at least see as childish. Childish which means used by children. But children should be the ones being called "lil bro" so it is really contradictive.
Are you on something? This guy has clearly and fully justified his point, his video is well done and he has a good point, and he was not toxic in anyway bro, he is just providing critique to the update.
@@BillStarrs nothing have been justified since a lot of parameters haven't been taken into consideration regarding how strong th 17 will be.. new defense lvls, and more to come as we know from previous updates, one entirely new defense plus the giga bomb. But yeah let's be negative about everything before we even have the chance to play the new update. So let's agree to disagree, I guess this dude is not my type of content creator. All good
Its simple math really, th16 giga inferno+eagle artillery>>>>>th17 weapon and the fact that you dont have a giga bomb and have to keep it outside is just ridiculous
@eymenalkuru5978 it's able to wipe out multiple enemies at once that aren't grouped up, the death bomb can now be placed anywhere and it leaves a lingering effect when the shot lands
@@valkeitosthe lingering effect and the hits are still weaker than the constant attack from inferno that th16 did. The poison effect after the th destroyed is gone(and only the big DMG of the bomb is converted in trap). And poison of those shots don't even slow down the opponents nor the attack rate. Not to mention destroying 2 strong defence is generally harder to do than destroying a single one which is a run down version anyway. This th can't even kill giants quickly. Eagle alone killed maxxed giants in 2 hits. Not to mention the infinite range and overall more dps. Don't call me a yapper, even I am surprised I wrote this much
agree to this one.. supercell should have considered artillery separate. should just add the necessary missiles after upgrading to townhall 17. i hate this game now it's nonsense that we all gonna sacrifice the artillery. no im not going to upgrade my th 16 . supercell needs to address this issue.😂😂
6:32 the animation they made perfectly shows how it couldve been done better, it shows it as a rapid fire throughout the entire base with a small cooldown. which wouldve made it more reasonable to get rid of the bomb after destroying it. It wouldve felt more rewarding to take down the most deadly defense in the base, but now it just feels like any other defense but with more health.
Exactly, and it is much easier to destroy now, because it is generally weaker than the giga inferno. The old town halls also struggled with freeze spells. But they still did some damage and the giga bomb was deadly. Now there's nothing scary about raiding the centre of the base. Some people might suggest, "just put the giga bomb near the town hall" Well. Why remove it from the town hall if you're going to place it next to it anyway? And it still doesn't have the same effect because of no poison
That moment when you are applying your strategy and you had to drop a few extra troop and suddenly.......... The dreadful activation sound of eagle. nothing in the map is safe anymore. All your focus needs to be on the eagle or this attack most likely fails. I will definitely miss that feeling. R.I.P Eagle Artillery
yeah true but the inferno artillery anyway has enough range with the quick fire rate and poison effect. the two fire spitter will make up the lost range quite well, cus its basically a longer range air sweeper that shoots fire.
Your arguments are that there is less main defences on the map, less hp, less range and no giga bomb poison. My arguments are: Theres 2 new main defences being the now seperated giga bomb and 2 fire spitters. This town hall does have less hp than seperated eagle and town hall but the 2 fire spitters counteract that hp loss. It has less range than the eagle sure but now a flame flinger can't snipe your town hall and the new town hall has no blind spot around it. The giga bomb poison has been merged into the weapon that now lobs 4 fiery balls of death that slow and poison enemies just like the giga bomb and on top of that the giga bomb as a trap still stuns enemy troops. Having the weapon deal poison damage and slow enemies along side the spell towers and the giga bomb would be very repetetive and boring and make attacking very slow. They merged the poison of the giga bomb, flames of giga inferno with the long range artilery weapon that is the eagle and gave us a long range artilery weapon that shoots more projectiles that poison and slow enemies. I think the merge is worth it.
I personally think the problem is them getting rid of the eagle, everything else is fine, fire spitters don’t really compensate for the loss especially since we are always getting some new updates like these to town halls every time. Obviously I’d still upgrade the town hall as it’s delusional to not and keep lower level weapons but I just don’t think the merge improved it at all and I’m glad they finally have some new weapons but I think doing this with something like mortars would’ve been better as they are relatively useless in higher town halls and fits the style of the weapon
Wait until ur th 17 starts getting 3 starred by th 13s and th 14s clone loon bomb will be insanely strong because of no th destroyed poison and also those fire spitters are useless and are kinda like a less accurate version of x bow and you havr to face only one at max , and you can even avoid both if they not facing in opposite direction
Tbh i think this defense is ok. I was attacking some th’s with this new defense, I found that medium groups get demolished really quickly. Higher hp units might as well take down the th if its just between the townhall and the high hp unit. I feel a bit more afraid attacking the new th head on because theres more of a chance of losing my healers to the new th as opposed to only losing 1-2 healers to the single targetting beams. Specifically because one hit on my healers affects all of them and the dot from the poison too Edit 1: i do queen charges a lot
Wdym, there is a NEW key defence for TH 17: The one that shoots these bullets really fast AND (Bonus actually) the TH ITSELF. It's very simular to the eagle, but activates instantly, and has a poison area around the hits. And about the removement of the giga bomb: It's NOT removed, but made into a trap-ish thing, (it's visible) where is a certain amount of units are on top of it, it's be doing the damage the gigabomb did. (wtf is a motar)
I don't even know where to start: 1. The giga bomb still exists, as a new trap. 2. The new fire spitters easily compensate the loss of the artillery. 3. Defenses get a lot stronger while troops do a bit, but they don't come close to the progress the base makes. To bring balance into this chaos of a strong base and weak troops, they had to remove a major defense or downgrade a few. They chose the eagle artillery. If they chose weaker defenses, there would still be a gap.
1 giga bomb is literally visible 2 there is always a new coming to coc like scatter shots, monolith and spell tower hence fire splitters are just addition to this not a game chager like egale and how the hell is this game defence are getting stronger in th 16 also only root rider dominate the game no defence. Was able to match the output, hence this make game a lot easy
1. Supercell is too greedy. They sell the feature that available in previus TH. Its not free giga bomb, And the traps dont have poisson effect, just short knockback. 2. I agree, and they have strong dps. But They're too expensive, u need 2 of them instead one. Its hurt for f2p players, u need build them asap after th17 finish construct before cwl begin. If u cant, ur defence is weaker than th16 3. I think revival spell is too powerfull, hopefully the supercell dont gave massive nerf like druid and root rider. We can see some skill gaps between normal players and veteran players. I think hard mode is needed for cwl master and above to compensate them. About Eagle, I think we cannot change because its supercell decision, so I have solution to bring back unlimited range for eagle to make sure everything balance : Beyond 12 tiles, TH can only fire one bullets. But if there any troops in inner th circle (12 tiles), the bullets focused to those troops, fire 4 bullets (same as before)
Well let me ask you one thing, how many attacks do you do where u dont take eagle before it's activation, qc , sa blimp player know that mostly they won't be facing eagles and in attacks where they don't, the attack starts from the side of the eagle where u get to the dead zone relatively quick this th now is active at all times so isn't that great?
you do realize that this is because people deliberately target the eagle artillery. Thus the eagle artillery still changes the attacks as it’s a major focus point that’s like saying “the town hall is useless since it’s always destroyed!” Well of course it is, people target it since it’s strong.
@@him23429 not all the time, as a zap lalo player i never see the eagle as a threat only poi tower and infernos and scatters are, mostly my heros or ff get the eagle when i go for pathing. Yes for th 11-13 it s a big deal but in the higher th its not and many ppl feel the same
Totally agree. As a defence the new TH is easier to deal with than at TH16, even without considering that the Eagle is also gone. The additional defences and new Hero Hall do offset this though (stats wise) for, both DPS and HP overall. Still, not having to make plans to take out Eagle and TH makes attacking more straightforward.
@@HolyCrusader5 then get rid of some the 7 gold mines and elixir pumps, or maybe merge in the 3 regular mortars that people have been complaining about doing almost nothing since TH12
I agree with you so much even though I am a town hall 14 And personally , i'm just gonna stay at level 14 or Go to 15 For the Revive spell Plus saying mortar wrong ITS NOT MOR-TAR ITS MOR-TER
It did get a sizable radius decrease and now triggers when troops are near and not just when the TH is destroyed. And that's fine. But the gigabomb has fundamentally changed.
Doesn't make sense this video I understand you like eagle, like everyone does But trust me just by doing some maths you'll find out th17 is much more op than th17
@@Hardzie75he isn't wrong tho. The new TH weapon is really strong and the th17 flagship defense is also really powerful. Feel free to not move up to th17. That's your cross to bare.
@rubenlohata5263 I'm maxed th16. I haven't just seen a maxed one. I own a maxed one. It is slow and it announces it's attack. I stopped taking it into account when plotting my attacks once I became th15
0:52 town hall 17 still hasn't released yet, what are you talking about? information about the update has been released, but it hasn't actually been played by the public yet, so there's no telling how it'll actually go.
@@shirag.rkarun9578 it's not released to the public yet bozo, i already said that. no amount of small-scale playtesting will ever represent or develop actual meta's, there'd be thousands of strategies and details they overlooked that millions of players wont, that will completely define how the town hall actually plays out.
This is gonna age like milk, not because the point is bad (I love the eagle), but because people will just stop caring once we get past this update, and we're gonna look past this issue once there's TH 18 and 19. (unless they unmerge eagle and TH due to popular demand, then this comment is what ages like milk)
I had doubts of merging my Eagle with my TH and was looking for vids of people talking about it. Came across this video and glad I watched this video. I probably won't be merging my TH16 with my Eagle. The Explosion and Poison from the TH16 will be crucial for me.
Yeah so we're not afraid about the explosion when we destroyed th. That's why every pro player use fireball to destroy th first because it's too dangerous. The poison is too dangerous but now we're not afraid again lol.
Pros stopped caring about the poison death bomb years ago. They only use the fireball to make content because it's funny to watch the Warden nuke half a base.
@@fighter5583 every player still worried bro when you destroying the th. you have to activate warden skill so no more troops death. But now we're not worried a little bit. Maybe coc should change the range of the attack further than now and change the damage or just bring back the explosion when we destroyed Th.
@@rivanfrizzy8838 Everyone is NOT worried, especially now that the overgrowth makes the TH useless and often ends up being saves for last; making the poison bomb itself pointless. If you're still worried about the poison bomb at this time then you likely use an army that goes for the TH first without cutting the other defenses down beforehand. And btw, most players use the warden ability long before reaching the TH 🙄. They don't wait until their at the TH to use it, only TH14 players do that.
So that's why we have strategy we can use overgrowth spell or just use warden ability. That is essential of th 16 but now after we destroyed th just nothing and judosloth also said a little bit same. In my opinion Eagle artillery was the iconic of coc and the animation was so good but now just like that.
As a clash boomer, this was long overdue. I always hated the Eagle Artillery since it's release and I embrace this change and I already adjusted my base in such a way that my base can still counter air attacks. This also means that players once again have to think outside the box on how to adjust their bases. It's not even a major defense anymore because it got badly nerfed over the years. It's so nerfed that I always ignore it because I use a heavy army and I always steam roll it before it pops open. It's only good for players who are too slow to take it down aggressively. So I'm glad that it's gone because I get to be more aggressive like the old days.
@@BrandensMusicPage It has angle, damage is not good enough to shred anything. Only stops hero charges at best if it even is able to hit the healers. I think thee buff it needs without changing the damage is if the projectile homes into initial target then follow a straight line AND remove the angle of attack.
the problem with eagle artillery is that it makes queen charge a necessity and it takes a lot of space. may be supercell doesn't want a single defense to be so powerful like eagle.
I don’t think supercell is unaware of of our issues with th17, th17 is bad and flawed on purpose so that the next th could fix it, the next upgrade for th will probably be global range or at least range extensions and dmg boosts (it’s dumb but oh well)
"Now that it's out, I was right" My brother in christ its been a day and the upgrade takes around 2 weeks. 99% of players haven't even unlocked the new troop.
@@Cine95the TH17 is now it's own signature defence that can attack more enemies at once and leave a poison behind with each shot. That is infinitely more useful than a slow fire rate single target 3 shot burst weapon that covers most of the village.
@@Rdrenalin Nobody wanted it to be like this I hope they give us the eagle back at least remove the multi mortar from the TH and replace it with the eagle
I really dont get why some players are so sentimental about their first defenses. I honestly have no idea which one was my first or how people are keeping track of that.
The eagle was slowly losing its value as attack strategies evolve for the higher town halls. While I’m also sad to see it go, I’m going to wait and see in how the meta shifts over the next year or so before jumping to conclusions 💀
What this should have been is a merge with either all mortars or a multi mortar. It is far more similar to that than the eagle, and if it was the multi mortar, it would have encouraged to play the builder base. This seems like a much more viable solution that would actually make sense
You shouldn’t judge a book by its cover either chief. You are here making this video saying “I was right” when the update hasn’t even dropped yet lmao,give it time man damn
For those who don't know why the people hate th17 Fact that they erase the eagle artillery, not a merge! Because the purpose of the eagle is to attack globally and he has better advantage then the th17 due to his era and th17 is bad on protecting the base Th17 is lacking some goods he is not near close as eagle💀 Th17 only deals 4 in one shot but weak when he his about the die. Th16 is better cuz he can deal high damage in explosion plus poison💀 Also he kept Eagle artillery that deals 1500+ on each bullets! better then th17
I wish that the upgrade would just merge the mortars with town hall since they are extremely useless at that point it makes sense but merging the eagle is just no
I love the change. Less power in 2 main defenses, more decentralized power in other buildings. In terms of raw power, the Eagle Artillery itself on TH 16 will never in 100 years make up for 4 new core defenses on TH 17. The Eagle's laughable like 160 DPS is just way too low, even with the borderline infinite range. The TH upgrade itself is probably power neutral. Inferno Artillery is better than the Giga Inferno in some ways and worse in others.
Yeah exactly this, people need something to complain about (this time a nostalgic defence) because they love to do so. The firespitters and the inferno artillery more than make up for the power the eagle had. And in my opion the firespitters have a unique design and you get two of them just like the scatters at th13.
Eagle wasnt really a good defense on th16 anyways tho The meta has been favouring smash attacks lately and the new defense fire spitter the townhall with its attack poison and the new giga bomb perfectly counters it The clone blimp argument is useless for anyone that has fireball and spiky ball since they can do the clone blimp's job easily Also if your base is prone to clone blimp then your base just suks there is no going around that since you shouldnt keep more defenses around the th anyways since the th itself is so strong
I'm totally agree with you. They merged EA to take space and gave us a same sized hero hall. What a dumb idea. Also th17 don't even match with other THs. It kinda looks flattered by something 😡. Like this those who don't like th17
Hot take: they should make the town hall have an activation requirement just like the Eagle used to after which it has unlimited range. Boom. We added Eagle back. Everything else works the same way.
Seems like you're recent player because you don't know the importance of Eagle artillery for all of us old players. Back in the day it was the one and only defense everyone liked,loved,feared all at the same time. We trusted when stuart said they're most likely merge them but he let us down .
@@seven8073 Sure bro, Im a new player, only played since 2014. Stop projecting please, not my problem you are crying because a game is evolving instead of staying the same for 13 years.
@@seven8073 Sure bro, Im a new player, only played since 2014. Stop projecting please, not my problem you are crying because a game is evolving instead of staying the same for 13 years.
Solution: When the TH get destroyed, it will shoot out 12 shots consecutively in the radius of 50 tiles. The shots will have twice as the impact radius and damage compare to a normal maxed eagle and also it will poison all trops in that area for 1 minute
This is an absolute benefit, not only does it act as a powerful multimortar, it has the same damage output as a normal EA but split into 4, and it leaves lava behind, essentially it's a multi-lava-launcher but buffed damage. Even tho I'm a year off of 17, I like this upd
Me a th13: i see
Me a th 12 : I see
Me as a person who just upgraded to th9: I can barely see
@@TrustTree43 my small account with th 8 I can't see my eyes
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@@TrustTree43
Th4: I'm blind
"I don't care who Supercell sends I'M NOT MERGING MY EAGLE"
Same bro, th16 would be the max lvl for me not th17😆
Same bro 🗿 we maxed out Th11 just for Eagle artillery 6 year's back
Fine, stay as Th16 forever
I will stay as th12
Same bro, I've spent so much time upgrading me eagle, I love that little bastard and I ain't giving it up
They ruined the eagle effect of covering the entire village in range,now only a small range and it doesn't even shoot the same as eagle,it looks more like the lava launcher from builder hall
its a lava launcher from hell (its op)
I disliked the eagle anyways. It was too overpowered. I shouldn't have to attack from whatever side the eagle is on. Makes the Meta way to predictable and bland. This makes it so anyone can attack from any side. As it should be
I hope they increase range like eagle artilery and bring back the old animation but keep the lingering effects
@@shiroemiya3953i think the exact opposite was the case. the eagle was the worst of the „special“ defenses and it was just weird to implement into your base because of the 4x4 size. also the housing requirements were way too complicated. which is why i welcome this change…
@@shiroemiya3953it was never overpowered ur just bad (skill issue)
You cannot upgrade your townhall to 17 without merging with eagle.
And we are not going to upgrade
@ahmedsamyahmed4509 ok, good luck lil bro
why so serious 😭
@@ahmedsamyahmed4509Then you are stupid
@@ahmedsamyahmed4509yeah you guys have fun with that 😂
It’s definitely DELETED at TH17 because now for the Eagle Artillery achievement, you can’t even progress as it won’t count for destroying TH17
I agree, it's completely erased how the Eagle Artillery works.
HOW ON EARTH DID A GD PLAYER GET INTO A CLASH OF CLANS VIDEO!?
@@Squirz-c8n what do you mean?
cry about it. besides making it work the same way as eagle would be too op
@@HolyCrusader5 well, th17 was expected to be harder because th16 was really easy. and it let down a lot of people for the desicions that the devs made. BUT, there is possibility that th18 would be very hard.
@@Squirz-c8nclash of clans have players in every place but finding is the headache
Big brain idea, after the town hall goes kaboom, a robotic eagle with comically long range homing attacks is summoned, has about 7000 hp
LMAO
It's big brain time
Keep that big brain idea with yourself 😂😂 . If a building is 7000 hp do you know how much second it will take to destroy that building
@hiraksonowal6602 yeah the eagle artillery had about 6000 hp, it restores that lost hp that came with the merge
It is alot hp for a flying unit though...
Th17 shouldn’t cost anything to upgrade, losing the eagle artillery is already enough.
Kinda true actually. We spent so many millions/hundreds of millions to upgrade both the townhalls and eagles. And we still gotta pay for making our bases weaker?
That's why I call this a maintenance update.
Cause every town hall the cycle just repeats endlessly so it's ever harder to be truly maxed out without paying a dime.
i 100% agree with this. look i am not complaining about th17 I think it looks cool but they killed eagle. they should have kept its mechanism same as before with all the sounds and animation. eagle was the coolest defence in coc and they made it like a launcher
Very true
Keeping the main mechanism would have made it arguably easier to 3 star, as rather than having th on one side, and eagle on the other, now they would be together, and easy to snipe off.
Go cry about it
Very True
The townhall in all the game play i saw is actually stronger than this video makes it seem, just watch Galadon gaming or Judo Sloth, Judo makes it look easy but it still takes some strategy to destroy and that's not with Max defenses and now you also have to consider the new Minion Prince is gonna be a very strong defense too on top of all the new levels
RIP Eagle, TH 11- 16.
:( they literally got rid of the best defense on the game
they gotta add it back or else th17 will get 3 starred everytime
@@mistekfuli dont think it was the best defense by the big blindspot
@@Unknownxd6328 it would be too broken otherwise!!! It was the best for me still!!
@mistekful it's not the best in a long time, there are countless shutting it down
the eagle always been a critical point at my early times at clash of clans... i either aim for town hall and get two start graunted. or go to eagle and try get 3 stars
They probably will buff it, cuz its feel underwhelming at first... Especially when they see how high *3 percentage after update drop, if it is really that easy
Balancing is a real thing guys!!
The entire base most likely won't be easier to 3 star (due to the new defenses and defense levels), but the combined power of the townhall and the eagle is definitely worse than before. And what's even more important is that there is no Eagle and it's activation sound.
Yeah, hydra is easy. After my couple of attacks, TH17 is strong against heroes, but I had taken it down with Balloon clone, so I have no idea about meta currently...
how am i gonna take advice off someone that says MO- TAR instead of Mortar
moe-tar sounds funny 😂
You're not because you're a woke loser who can't understand accents.
Not me scanning the comments for someone else dying from "we have 4 Moe Tars, and merging the Moe Tars would conserve space just the same"
Let's hear it for the MOE TARS!🎉🎉
I cringed everytime he said it!
@@ZenBerryz you’re an uncultured child who can’t comprehend accents.
Yeah, I agree with you
just "merge" the collectors, not the FAKING STRONGEST DEFENCE IN THE GAME !!!!
I mean they would need to change some stuff but it would work. They could also do the storage or the army camp.
exactly…if they don’t have any space for new building then they should merge the collectors…we don’t need that many collectors they are useless
@@fn4ndoryour idea is way better than coc dev thinking we are stupid and decided to delete eagle by telling us it got merged
The eagle was actually pretty irrelevant at higher town halls, so calling it the strongest defence is kind of strange. (Except if you use edrags or multiple hero charges)
Merging the collectors will negatively impact the game in multiple ways. Farming will become way too easy and greatly lower retention. Funneling becomes a lot easier with less trash buildings to worry about. Plus the eagle isn’t that good in the higher town halls. The current meta involves destroying it quickly and I’m glad they’re finally changing things up. Don’t forget they want to keep the game oriented to where it’s a village rather than this impenetrable fortress with barely any non-defensive buildings.
You have to merge to move on to the next town hall as a max TH16. Are you just not going to progress once you reach that?
He will
That's right and that's what i am going to do after maxing out everything I'll just use another alt acc and start from scratch.
@Blue.Knight. Okay.. and when that alt gets to max th16? What then? You clearly didn't think it through lil bro
@@formidableplays4750he won’t… progress? You clearly don’t think hard lil bro
@ReyGarcia-z5r If you don't progress there's no point in playing. You're the one who isn't thinking Lil bro
This is inevitable. I can understand your dilemma, however its important to note that supercell plans out the game two years in advance. Meaning they know what they want the game to be 2 years out at any given moment. With that being said it’s likely that they crafted some things for town hall 18 that made them realize the approaches they needed to take with town hall 17. In other words, town hall 17 needs to be a nice bridge for what is coming at town hall 18. While certain claims are backed with logical reasons and arguments for what players have access to, we have to remember that supercell isn’t thinking that way. They are thinking about the future of the game and how that impacts what you play with now. So while we might not like these changes, we will bear the fruits of their changes eventually. Itll take some getting used to.
Also why do you say mortar the way you do. It sounds horrible.
@@williamchastain9510 he said moe-tar 😂
sounds like a supercell employee.
Damn liberals
@@theshonenmaster2989 if that's the case, there's even more reason to belive what they said is true
I got your point. But the eagle is not as strong as it was like 5 years ago. And for your considerstion: they gave us the eagle as a reaction for the very strong golem attacks. So I think it was‘nt really they‘re idea that it will become such an iconic defense
That is very true, its not as effective as it was. I think people are just flipping out bc of nostalgia
@@cosmicfrank5465 Yeah, I'm at TH16 and the Eagle really isn't that crazy. The Monolith is way more dangerous compared to the Eagle.
@@SDseb
U r rignt, Monolith is nightmare
0:49 professional yapper 💀
What is that means? 😅😅
@@mattdamon2084 a person who yaps as a profession 😂😂
@@mattdamon2084Person who known for saying bullshit things and bold claims
hell naw 💀
I agree with the video creator, and that this community is way too positive
Eagle+ TH❌. Multi Mortur + TH✅
i love my town hall moreton
multi mortur
Dang it ... I'm a fully maxed TH 16 and this is bad news. I completely agree that the 4 mortars merged would have been an EPIC option instead of the Eagle. Why Supercell ? Why !!!
i think because you still have things as multi mortar
@@perfectsoulmates2023no they didn’t💀
@ you have to upgrade the multi mortar in builder base to lvl 8 bro do some research💀
@ and btw I’m also max th16🤣
@@perfectsoulmates2023is your multi mortar in the builder base level 8?
When they say merge, I think eagle artillery just merging with its ability. What is this? Where is the longest attack artillery?
So, the concept of merge is just an excuse to delete things in the game. Not to make it better but to delete it.
@@Logan_Nyhuis No it does not! Did you even watch the video?
@@Logan_NyhuisI watch other vidio yes it remove the long range attack
literally is just removing the long range attack. and it has a larger range than the previous th weapons. plus if it were to have the range as the eagle, that would be way too broken
@@HolyCrusader5 yeah but they could just merge it with mortar if that's gonna be its range I mean what will you choose mortar or eagle artillery from me I will gladly choose mortar
@@HolyCrusader5 its not just long range it can literally melt a high hp troop the eagle artillery and the blimp will easily distroy the townhall
Something you need to understand is how many buildings are in the base, when you attack, each building equates to a percentage for the attack, when they reach 100 buildings which they have gotten to that point, something has to be done in order to keep the balance if they wanna keep adding cool new things to the game, I personally think the whole merging thing is a really interesting way to solve that problem, but complaining about it and thinking it’s bad isn’t gonna do anything at all, it’s a game at the end of the day and things change, sometimes you just gotta deal with it and move on and enjoy the game you love.
You're right-Clash of Clans may just be a game, but it's a game that's been around since 2012, nearly 14 years ago. Many players have been invested in it for that long, with some spending thousands on promotions and in-game purchases. The game has built a massive, dedicated community over the years. While it's true that things need to change to keep a game fresh, not all changes are improvements. For example, the new Town Hall 17 update looks great on paper, but the merge felt underwhelming for many. It's like going to the grocery store and only seeing produce because everything else is removed to prevent obesity-sure, it’s still food, but it’s not what people expect or want. Change should enhance the experience, not leave fans feeling disappointed even though u can't satisfy everyone but removing the strongest defense should be worldwide a nono removal of the 4 motars would've been more in line with this theme and they shit anyway imo
But they could have just merged the Mortars instead of the Eagle, that way we get rid of a bad defense while at the same time winning a lot more space.
remove half of resource colletctor
4 elixer, 4 gold, and 2 drill only
u have freed 5 buildings
@@byranttaylor1535 yes I agree, I know it may have come off as me defending the whole get rid of the artillery, it’s sad to see it go, and I feel like there are better ways to do the whole merge process, I see the mortars as a not so great defense in the game and they would be way better spent in the town hall, believe me I see how many possibilities they could take with the rest of the game as they progress, I just have no clue what they plan on doing as they continue to add more to the game, like hell we just got a new hero, what does that mean for the one we are gonna have to swap for it, I know what it’s like playing since the game ever came out, it’s been the longest staying app on my phone for as long as I can remember, I do think there could be something they can do to maybe make the town hall eagle more powerful so it keeps what we lost, I’m gonna miss hearing the activation of the eagle and the sounds of the blasts, I feel like they could have buffed it a lot more, I don’t quite understand why they felt the need to take the bomb out tho that will forever confuse me, but it all needs a buff
@0ptic0p22 it totally agree, wizard towers too. The Eagle is a symbol of power when i was not TH11 I was excited to reach this level and get it.
I completely agree with everything you said. I myself, don't like the eagle merge and the thrower troop of this update. It has lost its "eagle" meaning. An eagle is a bird with immense vision capabilities...which means infinite range. This is such a dumb move. Also, the firespitters are so lame. Idk what happened. They could've easily given 2 mini eagles instead of firespitters with a smaller range as compensation for merging the main one. Idk.
The thrower seems weird... Like we have a 16-HS troop with few HP and very little damage. Only somewhat long range but idk what the value offering is.
Compared to the Electro Titan, which doubles the housing space, quadruples the HP, sacrifices all range but has an aura that attacks everything (on top of its vanilla attack).
I'm missing something here.
5:51 fr man, exactly what I was thinking.
A real murge would sum up the hitpoints and the damage of both defenses together. If you do the math the new defenses are weaker than its individuals defenses in TH15
Stay at th 16 then lil bro💀💀
Ar you just gonna say lil bro or get an original comment? Bcuz tbh "lil bro" ruined your comment
@@EvoGene-w23 idk whats wrong with lil bro
@@rubenlohata5263 Lil bro obviously comes from "little brother" which I at least see as childish. Childish which means used by children. But children should be the ones being called "lil bro" so it is really contradictive.
@@EvoGene-w23 if evo gene says it than its true
@@rubenlohata5263 Ah well
Th17 is perfectly fine. Just buff every defense and it looks fine to me
Exactly.. this dude makes no sense! Just toxicity
Are you on something? This guy has clearly and fully justified his point, his video is well done and he has a good point, and he was not toxic in anyway bro, he is just providing critique to the update.
@@BillStarrs nothing have been justified since a lot of parameters haven't been taken into consideration regarding how strong th 17 will be.. new defense lvls, and more to come as we know from previous updates, one entirely new defense plus the giga bomb. But yeah let's be negative about everything before we even have the chance to play the new update. So let's agree to disagree, I guess this dude is not my type of content creator. All good
@@BillStarrs nah because why bieng mad when the eagle is removed while the monolith and scattershot are still there
@@georgebosinakos6136Seeing people like you go to instantly suck the devs off is insane 😭
I can’t believe making a good point is “toxicity” now 😂
Its simple math really, th16 giga inferno+eagle artillery>>>>>th17 weapon and the fact that you dont have a giga bomb and have to keep it outside is just ridiculous
So wait like a decade and not upgrade to town hall 17 just because of one nostalgic defense kinda sounds stupid
Fr who cares about the Eagle it is cool but the lavalainncher is way cooler
@@edwinvermeulen2238 IDK but it looks so out of place.
its not only about nostalgic but weaker no death bomb. low dps. low range
@eymenalkuru5978 it's able to wipe out multiple enemies at once that aren't grouped up, the death bomb can now be placed anywhere and it leaves a lingering effect when the shot lands
@@valkeitosthe lingering effect and the hits are still weaker than the constant attack from inferno that th16 did. The poison effect after the th destroyed is gone(and only the big DMG of the bomb is converted in trap). And poison of those shots don't even slow down the opponents nor the attack rate. Not to mention destroying 2 strong defence is generally harder to do than destroying a single one which is a run down version anyway. This th can't even kill giants quickly. Eagle alone killed maxxed giants in 2 hits. Not to mention the infinite range and overall more dps.
Don't call me a yapper, even I am surprised I wrote this much
agree to this one.. supercell should have considered artillery separate.
should just add the necessary missiles after upgrading to townhall 17. i hate this game now it's nonsense that we all gonna sacrifice the artillery. no im not going to upgrade my th 16 . supercell needs to address this issue.😂😂
6:32 the animation they made perfectly shows how it couldve been done better, it shows it as a rapid fire throughout the entire base with a small cooldown. which wouldve made it more reasonable to get rid of the bomb after destroying it. It wouldve felt more rewarding to take down the most deadly defense in the base, but now it just feels like any other defense but with more health.
Exactly, and it is much easier to destroy now, because it is generally weaker than the giga inferno. The old town halls also struggled with freeze spells. But they still did some damage and the giga bomb was deadly. Now there's nothing scary about raiding the centre of the base.
Some people might suggest, "just put the giga bomb near the town hall"
Well. Why remove it from the town hall if you're going to place it next to it anyway? And it still doesn't have the same effect because of no poison
@@HonoredSenior its def not much easier to destroy. yall overreacting. + the th activates as soon as the battle starts. so yes, it still is scary
That moment when you are applying your strategy and you had to drop a few extra troop and suddenly.......... The dreadful activation sound of eagle. nothing in the map is safe anymore. All your focus needs to be on the eagle or this attack most likely fails.
I will definitely miss that feeling. R.I.P Eagle Artillery
Stay at th16 lil bro 😭🙏
But why crying?
@@Mrbrainthebosswho
Ah little baby mad? Keep on meet riding supercell little bro they definitely care for you
@@AKayani559 so you think they shouldn't remove the eagle
you're the meat rider man
@@rubenlohata5263 I don’t think you know what the word even means 💀
The problem is we lose the longest-ranged attack of Eagle Artillery.
yeah true but the inferno artillery anyway has enough range with the quick fire rate and poison effect. the two fire spitter will make up the lost range quite well, cus its basically a longer range air sweeper that shoots fire.
The new TH weapon is just trash currently@@c0de509
@@c0de509 air sweeper is good because it couses pushback, firespitter is trash, it does almost no damage and doesnt even cover 180°
Womp womp, you'll do it anyways we all know that
womp womp is crazy but you're right
@@rubenlohata5263 womp womp we won't, and you losers can go ahead woke nerds
womp womp we won't, and you losers can go ahead woke nerds
Womp womp your tiny brain can't comprehend how underwhelming this update is
@Unknownuser-vq9ul sure buddy. Keep whining over the update womp womp
Your arguments are that there is less main defences on the map, less hp, less range and no giga bomb poison.
My arguments are:
Theres 2 new main defences being the now seperated giga bomb and 2 fire spitters.
This town hall does have less hp than seperated eagle and town hall but the 2 fire spitters counteract that hp loss.
It has less range than the eagle sure but now a flame flinger can't snipe your town hall and the new town hall has no blind spot around it.
The giga bomb poison has been merged into the weapon that now lobs 4 fiery balls of death that slow and poison enemies just like the giga bomb and on top of that the giga bomb as a trap still stuns enemy troops.
Having the weapon deal poison damage and slow enemies along side the spell towers and the giga bomb would be very repetetive and boring and make attacking very slow.
They merged the poison of the giga bomb, flames of giga inferno with the long range artilery weapon that is the eagle and gave us a long range artilery weapon that shoots more projectiles that poison and slow enemies.
I think the merge is worth it.
I personally think the problem is them getting rid of the eagle, everything else is fine, fire spitters don’t really compensate for the loss especially since we are always getting some new updates like these to town halls every time. Obviously I’d still upgrade the town hall as it’s delusional to not and keep lower level weapons but I just don’t think the merge improved it at all and I’m glad they finally have some new weapons but I think doing this with something like mortars would’ve been better as they are relatively useless in higher town halls and fits the style of the weapon
Btw i just realised the mortar things is the same as said in the video, I just didn’t finish it so ignore that
What poison that's gone, there's damage over time but no poison slowdown
Wait until ur th 17 starts getting 3 starred by th 13s and th 14s clone loon bomb will be insanely strong because of no th destroyed poison and also those fire spitters are useless and are kinda like a less accurate version of x bow and you havr to face only one at max , and you can even avoid both if they not facing in opposite direction
Useless firespitter
Useless townhall motor
lol yap all you want
Tbh i think this defense is ok. I was attacking some th’s with this new defense, I found that medium groups get demolished really quickly. Higher hp units might as well take down the th if its just between the townhall and the high hp unit. I feel a bit more afraid attacking the new th head on because theres more of a chance of losing my healers to the new th as opposed to only losing 1-2 healers to the single targetting beams. Specifically because one hit on my healers affects all of them and the dot from the poison too
Edit 1: i do queen charges a lot
Wdym, there is a NEW key defence for TH 17: The one that shoots these bullets really fast AND (Bonus actually) the TH ITSELF. It's very simular to the eagle, but activates instantly, and has a poison area around the hits. And about the removement of the giga bomb: It's NOT removed, but made into a trap-ish thing, (it's visible) where is a certain amount of units are on top of it, it's be doing the damage the gigabomb did. (wtf is a motar)
*I AM VERY SAD WITH THIS TOWNHALL UPDte*
Everyone comment coc to add eagle back or change th17 weapon
my clanmates including me thought that it wouldve been something like the capital hall but its no way near....you are right....they ripped the EA
I don't even know where to start:
1. The giga bomb still exists, as a new trap.
2. The new fire spitters easily compensate the loss of the artillery.
3. Defenses get a lot stronger while troops do a bit, but they don't come close to the progress the base makes. To bring balance into this chaos of a strong base and weak troops, they had to remove a major defense or downgrade a few. They chose the eagle artillery. If they chose weaker defenses, there would still be a gap.
1 giga bomb is literally visible
2 there is always a new coming to coc like scatter shots, monolith and spell tower hence fire splitters are just addition to this not a game chager like egale and how the hell is this game defence are getting stronger in th 16 also only root rider dominate the game no defence. Was able to match the output, hence this make game a lot easy
1. Supercell is too greedy. They sell the feature that available in previus TH. Its not free giga bomb, And the traps dont have poisson effect, just short knockback.
2. I agree, and they have strong dps. But They're too expensive, u need 2 of them instead one. Its hurt for f2p players, u need build them asap after th17 finish construct before cwl begin. If u cant, ur defence is weaker than th16
3. I think revival spell is too powerfull, hopefully the supercell dont gave massive nerf like druid and root rider. We can see some skill gaps between normal players and veteran players. I think hard mode is needed for cwl master and above to compensate them.
About Eagle, I think we cannot change because its supercell decision, so I have solution to bring back unlimited range for eagle to make sure everything balance : Beyond 12 tiles, TH can only fire one bullets. But if there any troops in inner th circle (12 tiles), the bullets focused to those troops, fire 4 bullets (same as before)
@@Alcleez I honestly agree with you. I like your idea of the town hall being weaker outside 12 tiles.
@@Alcleez i mean was coc a p2p game in the first place?
@@Alcleez greedy?
play a diff game then
if they were greedy we won't get hammer jam
*NEED EAGLE BACK* 😢
Well let me ask you one thing, how many attacks do you do where u dont take eagle before it's activation, qc , sa blimp player know that mostly they won't be facing eagles and in attacks where they don't, the attack starts from the side of the eagle where u get to the dead zone relatively quick this th now is active at all times so isn't that great?
you do realize that this is because people deliberately target the eagle artillery. Thus the eagle artillery still changes the attacks as it’s a major focus point
that’s like saying “the town hall is useless since it’s always destroyed!” Well of course it is, people target it since it’s strong.
i usually giant arrow eq zap it before even beginning the battle
@@him23429 not all the time, as a zap lalo player i never see the eagle as a threat only poi tower and infernos and scatters are, mostly my heros or ff get the eagle when i go for pathing. Yes for th 11-13 it s a big deal but in the higher th its not and many ppl feel the same
@ I can see that.
@@arunaadhithyansj8102 bro what if you just said you get eagle with heroes because, why not ignore it until very end? because it is a *key defense*
Totally agree. As a defence the new TH is easier to deal with than at TH16, even without considering that the Eagle is also gone. The additional defences and new Hero Hall do offset this though (stats wise) for, both DPS and HP overall. Still, not having to make plans to take out Eagle and TH makes attacking more straightforward.
eagle artillery has its own unique characteristics and supercell just think we won't care
yeah and at the same time, the base needs more room. eagle is one of the largest defenses. things have to change if we want more ths and stuff
@@HolyCrusader5 then get rid of some the 7 gold mines and elixir pumps, or maybe merge in the 3 regular mortars that people have been complaining about doing almost nothing since TH12
@@imbad385 the first one creates the problem of making farming way too easy then
merging the mortars is the better option here
I agree with you so much even though I am a town hall 14 And personally , i'm just gonna stay at level 14 or Go to 15 For the Revive spell Plus saying mortar wrong ITS NOT MOR-TAR ITS MOR-TER
dis is sad😢
i wish they add second eagle arty..
and idk why 400+ HP for TH17 Doesn't makes any since i wish it increases like 6,000+ than this.
The Gigabomb did not get removed, it was added as a separate building. If you dont like it just place it next to the town hall.
It did get a sizable radius decrease and now triggers when troops are near and not just when the TH is destroyed.
And that's fine.
But the gigabomb has fundamentally changed.
Doesn't make sense this video
I understand you like eagle, like everyone does
But trust me just by doing some maths you'll find out th17 is much more op than th17
I’ll be sure to come back to this video when I finally reach th 17 in about 5 years
The eagle is slow as shit and targets a single barbarian i think this is a way better change
Stay at th16 lil bro
you can be called a hog rider by the way you riddin SC's "hog"
@@Hardzie75he isn't wrong tho. The new TH weapon is really strong and the th17 flagship defense is also really powerful. Feel free to not move up to th17. That's your cross to bare.
@@Hardzie75 you're playing their game, what else you gonna do? either you just continue playing or just delete clash of clans, simple as that
no way you called the eagle slow
have you seen a max one
@rubenlohata5263 I'm maxed th16. I haven't just seen a maxed one. I own a maxed one. It is slow and it announces it's attack. I stopped taking it into account when plotting my attacks once I became th15
Lost the powerful eagle artillery as well as the powerful giga inferno for a sub par defence that now makes the town hall a permanent defence target
0:52 town hall 17 still hasn't released yet, what are you talking about? information about the update has been released, but it hasn't actually been played by the public yet, so there's no telling how it'll actually go.
BRO THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED AS A BETA VERSION WHERE TESTERS AND CREATORS ARE ALREADY PLAYED ROUND :
@@shirag.rkarun9578 it's not released to the public yet bozo, i already said that. no amount of small-scale playtesting will ever represent or develop actual meta's, there'd be thousands of strategies and details they overlooked that millions of players wont, that will completely define how the town hall actually plays out.
hahaha this is already released lol
I’m going to cancel my upgrade right now
I really very very disappointed with th 17 merging strategy.....why eagle merge ..this is very disgusting
Even just giving back the range would help, let alone the damage and giga bomb
Bro if you love the eagle so much just start over, stay at th16 or u can just stop playing the game all together
This is gonna age like milk, not because the point is bad (I love the eagle), but because people will just stop caring once we get past this update, and we're gonna look past this issue once there's TH 18 and 19.
(unless they unmerge eagle and TH due to popular demand, then this comment is what ages like milk)
I remember when people hated the air sweepers because they did no damage and could only point in 1 direction but they can really ruin an air attack.
Bro full support you are absolutely right supercell is going to dirty eagle artillery
Yes
I had doubts of merging my Eagle with my TH and was looking for vids of people talking about it. Came across this video and glad I watched this video. I probably won't be merging my TH16 with my Eagle. The Explosion and Poison from the TH16 will be crucial for me.
Yeah so we're not afraid about the explosion when we destroyed th. That's why every pro player use fireball to destroy th first because it's too dangerous. The poison is too dangerous but now we're not afraid again lol.
Pros stopped caring about the poison death bomb years ago. They only use the fireball to make content because it's funny to watch the Warden nuke half a base.
@@fighter5583 every player still worried bro when you destroying the th. you have to activate warden skill so no more troops death. But now we're not worried a little bit. Maybe coc should change the range of the attack further than now and change the damage or just bring back the explosion when we destroyed Th.
@@rivanfrizzy8838 Everyone is NOT worried, especially now that the overgrowth makes the TH useless and often ends up being saves for last; making the poison bomb itself pointless. If you're still worried about the poison bomb at this time then you likely use an army that goes for the TH first without cutting the other defenses down beforehand.
And btw, most players use the warden ability long before reaching the TH 🙄. They don't wait until their at the TH to use it, only TH14 players do that.
So that's why we have strategy we can use overgrowth spell or just use warden ability. That is essential of th 16 but now after we destroyed th just nothing and judosloth also said a little bit same. In my opinion Eagle artillery was the iconic of coc and the animation was so good but now just like that.
As a clash boomer, this was long overdue. I always hated the Eagle Artillery since it's release and I embrace this change and I already adjusted my base in such a way that my base can still counter air attacks. This also means that players once again have to think outside the box on how to adjust their bases. It's not even a major defense anymore because it got badly nerfed over the years. It's so nerfed that I always ignore it because I use a heavy army and I always steam roll it before it pops open. It's only good for players who are too slow to take it down aggressively. So I'm glad that it's gone because I get to be more aggressive like the old days.
facts, the eagle is the best defence but if u still want it, just dont upgrade to th17 maybe?
monolith better but i think they did this to add those new defences
@@rubenlohata5263how is it better? just compare it to an single inferno tower! it basically does same thing
"Don't judge book by its cover, Chief" aged like milk
you completely overlook the two firespitters you get in place of the eagle
Thay are not that good
@@NathanRoberts-rv5zkthey’re great, they shred anything that doesn’t have like 16 movement speed
@BrandensMusicPage I am yet to see that
@@BrandensMusicPage It has angle, damage is not good enough to shred anything. Only stops hero charges at best if it even is able to hit the healers. I think thee buff it needs without changing the damage is if the projectile homes into initial target then follow a straight line AND remove the angle of attack.
Firespitter more useless than mortar
the problem with eagle artillery is that it makes queen charge a necessity and it takes a lot of space. may be supercell doesn't want a single defense to be so powerful like eagle.
Man i miss those days when th 12 was the highest townhall😢
When I first started playing, th10 was the max th with the blue walls still. Those were the times :/
@@royallegacy8441then when everyone got hyped for TH11 with the eagle artillery that did 4x damage to golems
I don’t think supercell is unaware of of our issues with th17, th17 is bad and flawed on purpose so that the next th could fix it, the next upgrade for th will probably be global range or at least range extensions and dmg boosts (it’s dumb but oh well)
If they gave more range, for me, it would be ok
They did
@@R-T11.2.952 tiles isn't enough should be
I'm sure when he said more range, he meant Eagle Artillery's longest attack range.
@@Sir_Your_Pizzayes
"Now that it's out, I was right" My brother in christ its been a day and the upgrade takes around 2 weeks. 99% of players haven't even unlocked the new troop.
magic items retard
Normally this guy is a yapper, but for once, he's got a point
he has 0 points. hes just crying about a change
What point? All he did was complaining about merging EA and not seeing its potential for future strategies.
@@j.am.al.boy2992 what potential ? they removed one of the signature defend for this
@@Cine95the TH17 is now it's own signature defence that can attack more enemies at once and leave a poison behind with each shot. That is infinitely more useful than a slow fire rate single target 3 shot burst weapon that covers most of the village.
@ tf the dude look at the comparison giga inferno performa much better then th 17 weapon which fires 4 shots only
Anyone who is maxed TH16 and saying they are not upgrading to TH17 is just lying to themselves
Supercell..
You better give us a new eagle when we upgrade to townhall 17...
They won't lol
making th17 even more op? chill
Town Hall 17 is already hard enough my guy
@@Boakster what do you mean people already found a way to destroy the townhall before release
@@Rdrenalin Nobody wanted it to be like this I hope they give us the eagle back at least remove the multi mortar from the TH and replace it with the eagle
I really dont get why some players are so sentimental about their first defenses. I honestly have no idea which one was my first or how people are keeping track of that.
The eagle was slowly losing its value as attack strategies evolve for the higher town halls. While I’m also sad to see it go, I’m going to wait and see in how the meta shifts over the next year or so before jumping to conclusions 💀
I dont care about my eagle, the new townhall design is incredible
What this should have been is a merge with either all mortars or a multi mortar. It is far more similar to that than the eagle, and if it was the multi mortar, it would have encouraged to play the builder base. This seems like a much more viable solution that would actually make sense
You shouldn’t judge a book by its cover either chief. You are here making this video saying “I was right” when the update hasn’t even dropped yet lmao,give it time man damn
@@tyronwoodleysmouthguard7114 bro creators can literally test it out
For those who don't know why the people hate th17
Fact that they erase the eagle artillery, not a merge!
Because the purpose of the eagle is to attack globally and he has better advantage then the th17 due to his era and th17 is bad on protecting the base
Th17 is lacking some goods he is not near close as eagle💀
Th17 only deals 4 in one shot but weak when he his about the die.
Th16 is better cuz he can deal high damage in explosion plus poison💀
Also he kept Eagle artillery that deals 1500+ on each bullets! better then th17
I STRONGLY Agree
If we could supercharged only in th 16 that would make th 16 a bit comparable to 17 and pro's might run that bade for giga posion and eagle daddy
Bro it's not that serious 😭
I wish that the upgrade would just merge the mortars with town hall since they are extremely useless at that point it makes sense but merging the eagle is just no
Besides them being able to hit flame flingers they are useless
I love the change. Less power in 2 main defenses, more decentralized power in other buildings. In terms of raw power, the Eagle Artillery itself on TH 16 will never in 100 years make up for 4 new core defenses on TH 17. The Eagle's laughable like 160 DPS is just way too low, even with the borderline infinite range. The TH upgrade itself is probably power neutral. Inferno Artillery is better than the Giga Inferno in some ways and worse in others.
Yeah exactly this, people need something to complain about (this time a nostalgic defence) because they love to do so. The firespitters and the inferno artillery more than make up for the power the eagle had. And in my opion the firespitters have a unique design and you get two of them just like the scatters at th13.
Eagle wasnt really a good defense on th16 anyways tho
The meta has been favouring smash attacks lately and the new defense fire spitter the townhall with its attack poison and the new giga bomb perfectly counters it
The clone blimp argument is useless for anyone that has fireball and spiky ball since they can do the clone blimp's job easily
Also if your base is prone to clone blimp then your base just suks there is no going around that since you shouldnt keep more defenses around the th anyways since the th itself is so strong
I'm totally agree with you. They merged EA to take space and gave us a same sized hero hall. What a dumb idea. Also th17 don't even match with other THs. It kinda looks flattered by something 😡. Like this those who don't like th17
get off then
@Bad3abdul Wdym get off then ?? I'm also goint to stop coc
Quitting the game because *1* defense building was removed is crazy
@@TheOrangeMist872 Whole theme is a mess bruh. Why is it beautiful to uu😪?
@@dasinduliyanage8002 I wasn't talking about the th17 design lol
Also some people has their own opinions on th17 not everyone has to hate it
Hot take: they should make the town hall have an activation requirement just like the Eagle used to after which it has unlimited range. Boom. We added Eagle back. Everything else works the same way.
yeah bro surely u will stay th16 forever cuz u dont wanna merge ur EA. sure sure bud. Professional yapper indeed.
Seems like you're recent player because you don't know the importance of Eagle artillery for all of us old players. Back in the day it was the one and only defense everyone liked,loved,feared all at the same time. We trusted when stuart said they're most likely merge them but he let us down .
@@seven8073 Sure bro, Im a new player, only played since 2014. Stop projecting please, not my problem you are crying because a game is evolving instead of staying the same for 13 years.
@@seven8073 Sure bro, Im a new player, only played since 2014. Stop projecting please, not my problem you are crying because a game is evolving instead of staying the same for 13 years.
@@seven8073 Waaahh wahhh my eagle waaah
Finally, someone with a brain!
The haters have been reaaall quiet rn
Biggest yapper of the year 😂
“Two steps ahead” ahh video
Clash of Clans is losing space for more buildings. That is the main purpose to the new merging mechanic.
They removed the eagle to balance out the th17 and to make space for other defense
Making space is a lame excuse😄
Lol, the eagle is still available till th16. They wanted to make the gameplay more different for every new townhall level
it feels like we went downhill, a super strong inferno tower on the TH + an infinite range defense turns into a weak CoC ripoff type weapon...
Fuck Th 17. I will keep my Eagle. If they're not doing something about it then I'm done with this and upcoming town halls.
Solution: When the TH get destroyed, it will shoot out 12 shots consecutively in the radius of 50 tiles. The shots will have twice as the impact radius and damage compare to a normal maxed eagle and also it will poison all trops in that area for 1 minute
Just stay at th16 then, no one forces you to go th17 lil bro 💀
This is an absolute benefit, not only does it act as a powerful multimortar, it has the same damage output as a normal EA but split into 4, and it leaves lava behind, essentially it's a multi-lava-launcher but buffed damage.
Even tho I'm a year off of 17, I like this upd