Jade Hunting, Identifying Jade (The Learning Process)
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- In this video we will search out some better quality Fraser River Jade (Nephrite), show the difference between Serpentine and Nephrite, and explain how to identify it and explain about the Jade learning process
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Hey Dan, as a disabled vet, I understand your physical struggles. You should try and find a small backpack with a frame. I'm not trying to encourage you to carry more 😁 but it will help a tremendous amount carrying odd loose items like rocks, especially on rough terrain. Take care of yourself, I wish I was closer, I would love to walk a river bank with you.
Seconded. Get a structured pack. It'll change your life.
Definitely need a pack with a frame. It will held spread the weight over youre whole body.
Just get a good dog....
@@cmcgregor5811 dog with a good frame. Weener dogs can't carry sh!t.
Yep, backpack with frame AND with a belt around the waist to pull the weight from the back to your hip area. That helped me a lot!
When I first started watching this channel the fly fisherman in me couldn't stand to see so much beautiful water going unfished. Now when I'm out fishing I spend half my time collecting rocks...
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Tbh ill spend twice as long as you at the beach to find rocks tho they aren't much of a variety like he showed cus my country has no natural rocks so the beach is the closest
'"I don't know it all...but I am learning"
--Dan Hurd
Thank you, Dan, because the honesty in your earnestness is truly inspiring.
A lil tip. Bring a plastic snow sled with you. Attach a strong but comfortable rope to the front for a pull rope. It slides heavy rocks without tipping over, back to your vehicle quite easily. I'm a female rockhound from the Maritimes and that's how I get the biggies home. 😃
Or you can get pioneer Pauly to pull the sled.
Nephrite jade, a variety of the mineral actinolite belonging to the amphibole group of silicate minerals, can contain various types of inclusions which add to its uniqueness and aesthetic appeal. These inclusions don't change its classification as nephrite jade but can significantly influence its appearance and value.
1. **Types of Inclusions in Nephrite Jade**: Common inclusions in nephrite jade include chromite and graphite, which appear as "black dots." Parallel tremolite crystals can create whitish stripes known as "water lines" in Chinese trade【12†source】.
2. **Dendritic Inclusions in Dahua Nephrite**: In Dahua, China, nephrite jade is known for its distinctive dendritic inclusions. These are mainly brownish yellow, brownish green, and black, distributed in forms like branches and clumps. Identified as penninite, which belongs to the chlorite group, these inclusions are a key identifying characteristic of Dahua nephrite and are crucial for tracing its origin【18†source】【19†source】【20†source】.
These inclusions, whether chromite, graphite, tremolite, or penninite, contribute to the diverse array of colors and patterns seen in nephrite jade, making each piece distinct and potentially more valuable.
Source: www.gemsociety.org/article/nephrite-jewelry-and-gemstone-information/
Source: www.gia.edu/gems-gemology/winter-2020-gemnews-dendritic-inclusions-nephrite-dahua
Sorry the nay-sayers bother you so much. Your videos do get people, like myself for example, excited to get out and find nature's treasures. Thanks for sharing this helpful video on Jade.
As one of those naysayers you mentioned, I have to disagree.
Awesome memorial to you friend Dave, I could see by how you talked about him that he was special to you, it’s always sad to realize they are no longer with us, but the memories are always sweet, I truly appreciate how genuine you are, and I appreciate your time and effort and passion you put into your videos, I truly enjoy watching, thank you!
Dan, you have succeeded with flying colors in your attempt to get more people interested in "finding nature's treasures." My excitement toward rockhounding has become near-obsessive. I've just found a massive quartz crystal cluster with skeletal formations, and I can't say I've ever felt this fulfilled by a hobby. I cannot thank you enough, sir.
I grew up collecting rocks and forgot how exciting it was 45 yrs ago. Thank you, Dan, for reminding me of how it felt to find a natural treasure.
Growth mindset 🙌🏼🙌🏼
“Never stop learning…” and don’t wait to start doing until you’re done learning!!
You should get a backpacking pack with a frame and back support. You'd be able to carry more weight with less strain for farther distances. Great video Dan!
Indeed. With a frame the weight will get distributed to this hips which will make life a lot easier!
Hey Dan, That was a pretty good explanation of the metamorphosis process. I have a Ph.D. in Material Science and Engineering and I would say your basic scientific explanation was right on with the conversion of serpentine to jade. Of course, there are many more details of thermodynamic processes, and crystallographic phases you could explain, but I think that would be too much!! :D
Cool, thanks!
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As one of the getting older grey beard generation, the old saying work smarter not harder applies to meAlthough I sometimes dont take that advice myself.I often use a shoulder yoke ,you can carrying more and still be comfortable.Having said that I just find more rock to carry . Love your videos Dan.Ive also been watching Jason,Pauly and Andy .All of you have inspired me to get back at rockhounding and lapidary and Im just starting to explore Vancouver Island around my new home
Grossular garnat is a mineral we find mixed with Serpentine and nephrite. It's collected around Whidbey Island and comes from the debris left by the glaciers from up your way. Nice to see where at all originated. And thank you for your explanation
I love your geology lessons. In my opinion you never go to far in your explorations, and or personal opinions about minerals. I could listen to you share your knowledge all day.
I hope you stay with us for years and years to come. You are loved and appreciated.
every time Dan does a riverside video, I get almost as excited speculating about the fishing as I do for the rocks! I think a childhood of fishing mania has twisted my personality!
Me too buddy. Best of both worlds for sure!
Awesome to watch and learn!
I've seen carved jade statuettes, in private collections that were white, and I never believed they were jade at that time in my life.
It was after researching the cultural aspects of jade, that I found many hues are on the jade spectrums! Black to white, and all in-between, depending on geographical location of identified deposits!
12:12 It also helps to know that your knowledge can be _contextual_ in nature. For instance, put any given rock in front of 3 pros from different fields: A Chemist, a Geologist/gemologist, and a Lawyer, and you could get 3 different answers as to what that rock "is".
If there is a lawyer involved, you could get 8 different answers.
@@nf4x that is... very true 😓
Hey Dan, I don't know anything about rocks, gems, gold, mining, etc, but your enthusiasm and excitement made me subscribe and watch every video! Your videos are awesome and I'm always happy when there's a new one to watch!
The best we can do is to be willing to be less wrong tomorrow than we were yesterday. Most aren't. Thank you for being humble on camera. Enjoying the videos.
Even if some of those aren't nephrite or jade, they are still beautiful pieces. I love seeing how the rough outer casings of rocks often hide beautiful inner cores.
I know how you feel Dan most of the guys I started rock Wacking with were called to that great Quarry, or mine in the sky. Some hunted up their own stones. Some have been cast to the mines and collection points they loved best. But to be sure the world is a lesser place without them. They were the true diamonds of this life.
I feel like the people who don't believe you are finding Jade are people from other places in the world. A friend of mine from the UK found it unbelievable that you could just walk around BC and find semi-precious gemstones just lying around. Then she came to visit and found semi-precious gemstones just lying around.
It is perfectly unbelievable. I would say 99.5% of what he says is nephrite is not.
The history of “Fraser River Jade” began before people tested for the difference. Many hundreds of tonnes used to be exported. It wasn’t Jade. If it were there would be miners all over the place.
Don’t be fooled. Jade hunters are merciless. And there are no Jade mines on the Fraser River.
At the end of the video he blames the Sun, and also says he needs to send a small piece to a lab to see “if it is actually Jade”.
He ain’t finding shit out there but sore muscles.
There are far more hard green stones out there besides serpentine and “Fraser River Jade”.
Yes, Dan Hurd of TH-cam; The Miner has Shown many videos RE Jade and Jadeite in 2023
Dan never change you give us great content.
I knew him when I was a kid, he has not changed. You keep watching he'll keep being dan.
you have a great style of explaining for those people who just see a rock and wouldnt know the difference between a dark jade and obsidian covered in dirt. This is along the same lines as those youtube videos that show how to build a computer, they show how to put the parts together, they then say start it up and install windows and thats it - the problemthere is the lack of information theyre giving can end up in £1000's in trying to fix problems that wouldnt have been in existence if they had asked an actual technician.
TH-cam is the place to start learning geology, not the actual place to learn it, and you are a great instigator for an interest in geology
The problem with jade is that everyone looks at those old chinese jade dragons and other museum pieces as the definitive idea of jade, and dont realise that all geology is more of a mix and match than specific amounts and percentages
Dan, forget the haters; In Dave We Trust.
I enjoyed this video. When you share your knowledge I learn more than I did before. Your humility and willingness to learn give you a lot of credibility.
Love your enthusiasm for rock hounding. Serpentine is a family of minerals, the hardest being antigorite. Jades are firmed from minerals like actinolite. So, I don't think you get jade from baking serpentine longer. They are all ultramafics, formed at deep sea floor ridges, and are brought to us by the magnificent process of plate subduction.
"Self taught" and "experience" are huge assets. May give you knowledge and insight even many experts lack.
Dan reminds me of a setter dog we had 30ish years ago. She thought a rock was a fetch toy and always bring ANYONE a rock to play fetch with. You could take her to a gravel quarry,throw a rock as far as you could and that dog would bring the EXACT same rock back.
One time, someone threw a rock in the deep end of the pool. We flipped out when she retrieved it.
Another time, none wanted to throw rocks and she brought a dirt cloud. My son threw it against the brick wall and disintegrated. That dog looked for it till we felt bad and started throwing a real rock!
As a fledgling coin and numismatic channel and a person who also loves gemology, I can appreciate your situation.
I do the same. I trying to provide the best information I can. If I discover I’m wrong, I correct, edit, take down the video or reupload with corrective statement.
Thanks for your integrity and keep up the great work. Love the channel and the content.
I remember wishing I lived in BC, or one of those places with gems everywhere. Then I looked into the area where I'm from (New Brunswick) and the rich fossil deposits right in my back yard. Then I found out our neighbours (Nova Scotia) have some of the most interesting mineral deposits in the world. I came to the conclusion that gems are everywhere, and there are few things more interesting than the history of the ground right beneath your feet.
My wife and I have found Jade and jadeite in the state of Washington in the United States on Whidbey Island
Love Jade. Thanks for showing it glowing so nice in front of the light. Beautiful.
Dan don’t let the comments completely control your content. Only 1% of your viewers comment. Safe drivers don’t let other drivers drive for them but if they hear a lot of honking they pay attention.
A small rag or towel would probably save your taste buds. Get it wet in the river occasionally to wet rock or just wipe your brow lol.
I particularly like your explanation videos. sometimes you have to go into detail even if it doesn't appeal to everyone. keep it up
I learned a lot about Jade and Serpentine and the differences. It really helped.
Dan, longtime sub love your channel. Here's an idea for you, use a canoe or other small boat to transport the rocks. Pull it with a rope while walking back up river, then short haul them to the truck.
"Sometimes I can get overly excited" - Dan Hurd 2023
Life has a habit of beating the innerchild out of us. Keep up the enthusiasm Dan, this is clearly something you are passionate about and there is never an "overly excited" when it comes to a passionate hobby. It's one of the reasons I keep coming back to watching your content.
You should carry the backpack out empty while looking for your rocks. Then you can start loading it up as you walk back toward the truck. You'll save work even if you pick up too much because you won't have to walk as far to retrieve the rocks you leave behind.
Yup, you certainly got us excited with your "96M" garnet video on the Big Silver. Found good stuff but I think that you were at a silghtly different location; we shall say 'further south' than we were on the river. Anyway, other stuff we found on that trip made us thrilled with the entire expedition. Thanks for the impetus to send us there, Dan
Right on, and I am most self-taught with my career as a QA Mgr and hobbies. In the ISO world, we call continually learning, continual improvement. Without continual learning, progress suffers greatly. Great information, and no worries about getting things wrong. It's a part of said continual improvement/learning.
Thanks for taking me places I've no chance of visiting, Dan. A beautiful place to live and work.
Heya Dan. As a farrier I understand the back issues! For carrying weight on my back, I love my 26L GR1 from Goruck. Heavyweight material, excellent straps, a partial frame and optional hip belt make a huge difference.
I've been in Vegas my whole life city guy through and through but this channel is very relaxing and has good vibes
You have made the Fraser River such a popular place on youtube. I love your prospector videos.
I so wish I lived where you are. So many gems and minerals to hunt for!
I knew a Dave who was a certified gemologists and master jeweler. I live in Florida and in the 90s Dave went to New Mexico and there he passed on. He was so knowledgeable. I thought about him after all these years because jewelery was second to him and Rick hunting was number one. He died doing what he loved. To the Dave's who taught us a lot Rest in peace.
In SW Oregon we have lots of Serpentine, but its Green mixed with Grey-Black. I haven't seen the Yellow-Orange before. Thanks for teaching me something!
Hi Dan.I got the pleasure to met you at the recent rock and gem show in Victoria.Thanks for answering my Pt and Ag questions.Love your display of Ocean Picture Stones (bought one). I am watching this update video that you mentioned.Thanks. ❤
An old saying from my childhood (60 years ago) “If you don’t make mistakes, you’re not having a go”. And “learning from mistakes is part of life.”
A frame pack will make your life much easier. They have actual support for lower back and distribute he weight better. Keep making great videos!!!!
Lots of humility in this video. Props to you.
Hard to believe I would get anything done on the Fraser, would just be in awe of all that beautiful scenery.
specific gravity is a very useful tool to make use of in determination. Hardness is better suited as a field test to start with.
I love when you said “you can find anything on the Fraser river” 100% iv sound all sorts of gem quality rock specimens just around the quesnel area
Experience is everything when it comes to knowledge, nobody can know more then someone who has the experience compared to someone that does the research , those who tackle both are professionals.
If you ever come down across the border to Washington state, we have quite a bit of nephrite jade and serpentine in our creeks and rivers. I have been finding it in Big Mission Creek near the Hood Canal in Western Washington in my hometown. If you don't mind camping in Belfair State Park I'm usually always there in the summer and would be quite excited if I ever saw you there. It's not just jade but just about everything that can be found in waterways. Keep up the great work love watching your videos.😁👍
Because of your videos I've now been to BC and collected garnet sand near Harrison and nephrite near the Fraser. 🔥
Dan, I know you get offers from viewers on the constant, but you have to know that with your content, we just can't help ourselves!
I wanna go on an adventure with you! From the comments in many videos, we probably number in the 10's of thousands, but it would be a dream come true!
It would be a privilege to carry some of those bigger chunks, and do the leg work with equipment and such!
JS, it would be awesome, and I do understand your position, and all the reasons it would be unfeasible!
Keep on Keeping on, so we can join you in your search! ❤
I love to learn! My motto is the more you know the more you can have fun with!
nothing like enthusiasm for sharing what you do dan ,nothing wrong about that and sharing what you have learned thank you for sharing the adventure and information 😂😂😂
I just finished watching the episode ""Four" Amazing Finds! - Jade Hunting!" Take those slices of jade and make a table top. equip it underneath with a light system that changes spectrum everyday then sell it. I love you videos!!
Great job Dan on explaining the "jade" realms. I have been finding "it" for over 50 years but never heard such good thinking about it until now. Thank you!
this is going to be another great video from Dan
You'd go crazy here Dan. A good percentage of the stones on our local beach are serpentine, but so shiny and almost translucent that you'd be picking up and throwing things back all the time. The rivers down south where it originates are amazing, although only folk affiliated to local Maori tribes are allowed to collect from rivers here. I have rock gardens made of serpentine, schist, quartz, jasper, jade, and various sandstones and odd rocks I don't recognise. I'm dying to one day find the enigmatic ruby rock, Goodletite, but I might have to visit a certain creek, with appropriate permisssion and Maori companions. It's pretty rare though, so they say.
“I lick rocks” merch shirt? I’d buy it.
Good morning from Copperhill Tn.
Morning from clarkesville
Hey Dan, love watching you explore and pick rocks... I'm learning too. Just a thought: As you walk down the river keep your backpack with you but don't put anything in it. Stack up the finds you like, as you go along, like you do... THEN on the way back pick up the rocks you want. By then you'll have a really good idea of which ones you want to take back and which ones to leave AND you will have the back pack to put them in... Keep up the good work!!
I love your enthusiasm and joy at finding what you're looking for. 😁
Nope. Never overly excited. You found a passion to follow and some people feel that to be a bit uncomfortable for them. Their problem not yours.
Thanks for the close up view of the rocks. I can no longer hike so I’m totally enjoying the rocks around you as if I’m there.
A TSA agent, at the El Paso airport, stuck his head out from behind the baggage X-ray machine. He said at full voice… “What! You don’t have rocks where you live?” 😆. Just can’t help it. 💪🏼👏🏽👏🏼👏🏾
hey, I REALLY liked your explanation of how jade is formed. I'd love to hear you talk deeper about geology more often. your personality is amazing and definitely why I stick around, but the rocks are cool too and I like learning
that big yellow green plate is so cool ,can be art
Love your enthusiasm! Not to make your life harder or anything... have you considered getting an old Golf Bag Cart, removing the standard wheels and then placing a pair of 10" or 13" off road bicycle tires on it? Then you could modify the bag part to hold rocks, chisels, hammers, etc, so you can carry more over rough terrain without having to lug it all in your backpack. It might not work in all circumstances, however I am sure it could have helped you along the Fraser River in this video.
Great video
Thank you for sharing
Just a funny idea
You should challenge the people who think they know jade from serpentine from nephrite to test the rocks for you and find out.
If anyone says it's not jade give them a small piece to checkout for themselves but they have to have it tested or show the results of their personal tests. You could even show some of the videos or pictures people send you with test results. It would be a good way to find your answers through a kinda crowd source thing and get viewers involved.
Just an idea
And nothing to hurt anyone's feelings of course.
Also a good way to save $$$
Instead of $100's in test samples
It would be $1 in shipping plus you get some cool future videos in a new way.
Cheap / free is always good
Lol 😅😅
Thanks for the deeper dive into the process behind the formation of Fraser River nephrite.
Hey Dan. I love your videos. You do great work and I'm learning from your videos. I'm sorry about your friend Dave that passed, but trust me brother Dave is with you always. Please keep up your great work and may God bless you and always keep you safe and in good health. Walt Fisher from Kokomo, Indiana.
I love the sound effects while licking the rocks!
Love to see that you're still your usual beautiful self, Dan!
Thank you for that tribute to your dear mentor at the end.
I've enjoyed your tour of the Fraser river rockhunting. Thanks for the knowledge you gave me.
Asian Jade has a range from common to Royal. I have a number of Gemstone trees with Jade leaves and a Beautiful Owl. So many versions due to volcanic heating and generation. I have Jadeite listed as NaAl(Si2O6) Sodium Aluminum with silicon oxides. Something like that. Emerald-green by Chromium is Imperial Jade.
Thanks for the video Dan! I was just thinking this past week about coming and talking to you about finding some jade as I like to sculpt stone as a hobby and would love to work on some jade. This pretty much covers everything I wanted to know! Thanks again!
Dan you are a wonderful teacher ❤️
We have so much serpentenite material in southwest coastal Oregon I've always wondered why we don't have more nephrite I guess we just didn't get baked enough LOL. Inland in the Applegate Valley they have a bowenite they call Applegate Jade which is beautiful green with black specks and usually has that white rind (not crusty) on it like the big one you found.
Side note - I know everyone's going on about backpacks but make sure your feet have good support walking around on rocks packing out heavy loads only took a year for me to almost ruin mine.
Dan. A suggestion in the spirit of kaizen...
Walk all the way to the end of your hike, with water in your backpack. Mark your chosen stones denoted with chopstick flags. Use the water and not your tongue.
When you are at your point of return, then start loading the backpack and collecting chopsticks.
''Where's a helicopter when you need it?''
Was that a sneaky Jade Fever reference? 👀
I’m out in New Zealand and spent two weeks in Hokitika which is known as Jade Country. The Māori call it Pounamu and the beaches in Hokitika are FILLED with them and I have collected two full bags and will get more when I head back up in two weeks 😎
Also as u learn we learn that's why the collabs with the other channels is great
This is the first video from you that I'm seeing, and I definitely will be watching more! Very welcoming 😊
You taking the very scientific information and presenting it for a laymen audience to understand like me Dan. If people are here to just criticize you for how you present the information then they have no business being here. If they are helping you refine your knowledge great. But if they are being a holes they can leave. But that is upto you. Your too nice to put with this garbage.
Good morning from Southeast South Dakota
Hey Dan, Rev. Paul,Eustis Florida. Dan is that river fish-able at this time of year?? WOW bro you really favor your Dad man, really cool & good on ya for sharing the pics man.
Great video. I was born and raised in B.C, and have always wanted to learn about the local jade, and gems in general. Instant sub!
Hi Dan, I had a great time watching this video. I think I smiled all the way through 😅
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Thank you Dan. I felt bad for you. You must have had some really nasty comments. You were so defensive. I have been watching for at least a couple years. You have never, in all the videos, I have seen. Claimed, hinted at ect ect to be anything but what you are.
And you are fabulous.
Thank you so very much. For sharing your knowledge and experience with us. Showing us a beautiful inside look, of all the rocks we would normally overlook.
I hope this made sense. I have been awake for 36 hours. Thank you again for all you do, to entertain us.
I pray to God. That he will bless you and your's. ❤
Dan.. you are always the first to say "Hey... this may or may not.. I don't know"
I don’t want to mislead people, but I do always hope for the best
Excellent video, Diamond Dan!
Thank youfor sharing your knowledge!
I adore that you share the knowledge that you have with us and I love even more that you are so passionate and you share that passion and enthusiasm for learning with us! Please don't ever change that about yourself Dan! One question though - why lick it and get stuff in your mouth? Why not just spit on it and wipe it with your thumb? 😂
You convinced me to create a t-shirt with a hand holding a wet jadeite rock that says, "Geologists know how to lick it". 🤣👍
Loved this video. Did you slab the black jade, was hoping to see the density of color? What a wonderful homage to your friend and mentor Dave💙💙💙