Very impressed by the digital gauge being so responsive! While I feel like the new GR86/BRZ digital gauge is nice, I always notice that there is a delay between when you’re in the next gear and the display shows the correct gear.
The difference between the GR Corolla and this from the PoV track videos being posted on TH-cam is astounding. This has a neutral balance vs Corolla which pushes a lot more from what it seems.
Apples to oranges. You’re talking about a dedicated rwd sports car platform to a hot/hyper hatchback which is still based on a fwd econobox. Not that the GR Corolla isn’t an impressive car, because it definitely is, but these are two very different cars.
This B58 is really making a name for itself lately. I know the sound is piped in quite a lot, but boy does it sound good. A guy I work with has a 2020 model and put a Borla catback on it and it sounds amazing. Personally, I'd get the new M240i over this because I would like the AWD for winter, but I love this too! Great driving again Topher!
Wish the 240i didn't weigh so much, and the exterior didn't look like a blob fish. Then I would get it. sticking with the og m2 until I decide If I want to try the new supra or not.
“Piped in” doesn’t mean fake. These cars are getting so sound proof nowadays it’s really one of the only way to hear the engine clearly with the windows up. I don’t hate it, what i do hate is fake engine noises or speakers in exhausts
the b58 has had a name for itself since launch, the second people started tuning X40i's we realized how much potential this engine has and in a lot of bmw forums has been and is considered the modern 2j while being really reliable. it made total since when they added it to the toyota for that reason, yet everyone who didn't know anything wanted to complain. also the b58 is in a version of every bmw model for the guy who said he didn't like the look of the 240i (the 235/240i's have always been ugly tbf)
@@NoHope_ Indeed. I work for BMW manufacturig and have had the pleasure of leasing a M240, M340i , 440i and 540i. A friend of mine had a 2020 supra that I got ride in, B58 is great in every car I've driven it in.
Love this damn thing. Manual in this car seems like the perfect setup. Plenty of fun and power. Only gripe.... Nitpicking here.... The darn weird piped in exhaust. Don't love that. Oh well! Lol!
WOW.... So fkn planted. With that ⚡ throttle response rocketing him forward in such a stunning package. Surely the best pure sports car in or near its class (that isn't a 718)
Very cool car! I think the display is perfect too. Big tach so you can easily see the RPM and having the gear indicator right below is awesome. At quick glance you can easily get all the immediate info you need while driving. The fake piped in sound doesn't do this car any justice though. First thing would disable that and put a cat back exhaust on it. I appreciate the lack of pops and bangs this manual version makes. Seems less obnoxious and gimmicky. It's more about the actual car and experience, than making a raucous.
I keep laughing at some of the videos; Toyota set this track up to demonstrate the new 6 speed manual, but most of the time people are in 3rd gear the whole time not shifting based on how the track flows haha.
it's a very good sports car, regardless of what overly judgmental opinions say. This might make it a little bit better? The automatic, is a missile. Have owned for a little while. May look at one of these? Thanks for the video.
Waiting for someone to do one of these tests with the fake engine noise coded out. It overwhelms the entire cockpit. The B58 sounds great on its own, no need for this nonsense.
Wonder how many people on the Internet who said they wouldn't buy a Supra unless it came in a manual will actually put their money where their mouth is.
I was all about it but despise the European engine and some technology/computers. I bought a new European car with 0.0 miles, and had nothing but computer, fuses, and mechanical issues; and flaws technology that could have got me killed. The Toyota GR86 is another disappointment with that Subaru Accent 2.4 engine boxer.
And just like that, the Supra is cool again.
rly? even automatic 4cyl supra was cool. It seems like on youtube everyone drives viper acr
the zf8 in the regular supra is an excellent tranny. supra was always cool, now its even cooler.
@@averagebro413 bro wut lmaoo
The car was already cool and had good aftermarket potential
Bout time you guys let go of that 30 year old engine
Maybe when the interior isn’t 2 generations old
Very impressed by the digital gauge being so responsive! While I feel like the new GR86/BRZ digital gauge is nice, I always notice that there is a delay between when you’re in the next gear and the display shows the correct gear.
it's because the computer calculates it based on current RPM and wheel speed, so it's only accurate after the clutch is let out
The difference between the GR Corolla and this from the PoV track videos being posted on TH-cam is astounding. This has a neutral balance vs Corolla which pushes a lot more from what it seems.
Pushes how?
Apples to oranges. You’re talking about a dedicated rwd sports car platform to a hot/hyper hatchback which is still based on a fwd econobox. Not that the GR Corolla isn’t an impressive car, because it definitely is, but these are two very different cars.
This B58 is really making a name for itself lately. I know the sound is piped in quite a lot, but boy does it sound good. A guy I work with has a 2020 model and put a Borla catback on it and it sounds amazing. Personally, I'd get the new M240i over this because I would like the AWD for winter, but I love this too!
Great driving again Topher!
Wish the 240i didn't weigh so much, and the exterior didn't look like a blob fish. Then I would get it. sticking with the og m2 until I decide If I want to try the new supra or not.
@@Toymonkeyjr the rwd model should be a little bit lighter
“Piped in” doesn’t mean fake. These cars are getting so sound proof nowadays it’s really one of the only way to hear the engine clearly with the windows up. I don’t hate it, what i do hate is fake engine noises or speakers in exhausts
the b58 has had a name for itself since launch, the second people started tuning X40i's we realized how much potential this engine has and in a lot of bmw forums has been and is considered the modern 2j while being really reliable. it made total since when they added it to the toyota for that reason, yet everyone who didn't know anything wanted to complain. also the b58 is in a version of every bmw model for the guy who said he didn't like the look of the 240i (the 235/240i's have always been ugly tbf)
@@NoHope_ Indeed. I work for BMW manufacturig and have had the pleasure of leasing a M240, M340i , 440i and 540i. A friend of mine had a 2020 supra that I got ride in, B58 is great in every car I've driven it in.
Been on the list for a month or so now and as these reviews come out I just keep getting more excited.
Love this damn thing. Manual in this car seems like the perfect setup. Plenty of fun and power.
Only gripe.... Nitpicking here.... The darn weird piped in exhaust. Don't love that. Oh well! Lol!
Agreed, it’d be the first thing I disable!
@@TheTopher Absolutely. They sound so good outside. No need for the extra shenanigans.
nissan was coming for their throats so they had to get a stick going lol
That must have been tons of fun! Damn that car is deceptively fast.
WOW.... So fkn planted. With that ⚡ throttle response rocketing him forward in such a stunning package. Surely the best pure sports car in or near its class (that isn't a 718)
NISSAN SALES DROPPED HARD JUST LIKE THAT
Man, hopefully the cognac bits spread to the rest of the lineup!
Sounds like there is some noticable rev-hang. Also, the exhaust through the speakers is a ridiculous idea, and needs to stop lol
This is crazy man new dream car
We need a Lotus Emira!!!
Very cool car! I think the display is perfect too. Big tach so you can easily see the RPM and having the gear indicator right below is awesome. At quick glance you can easily get all the immediate info you need while driving.
The fake piped in sound doesn't do this car any justice though. First thing would disable that and put a cat back exhaust on it. I appreciate the lack of pops and bangs this manual version makes. Seems less obnoxious and gimmicky. It's more about the actual car and experience, than making a raucous.
I dont know if anyone has driven like that but that was badass! Well done
how does this one not have the red supra badge but has the peanut butter interior?
Really like the tan interior too.
I keep laughing at some of the videos; Toyota set this track up to demonstrate the new 6 speed manual, but most of the time people are in 3rd gear the whole time not shifting based on how the track flows haha.
Haha right!? I tried to shift as much as possible, but still it was definitely a 3rd gear only course.
Love the engine sound.
Toyota supra car looks amazing!
Good job❤
If it’s possible to code out or disable the active sound, I’ll definitely be getting one in the next few years
Easy to code out.
Bimmer code
perfect spec👍
The exhaust with the manual seems a bit quieter. The automatic seemed to have more pops
Probably something to do with the tuning. I prefer less pops and crackles, a lot of it usually sounds artificially programmed to do so.
I appreciate less pops. Often it seems gimmicky to me
That's the same issue with the Z. Auto exhaust is louder than manual.
There Are some noise regulations that force manufacturers to make manuals slightly quieter, nissan z has the same thing going on, auto is louder
@@andreybrovkin1294 I mean did you have to repeat what I said 🤦🏽♂️
Affordable dream garage is now type r and this thing with a wobbly stick in the middle
Is it intentional that this video is unlisted ? Just curious
Yeah, going to release it this weekend, but didn’t want to leave you guys hanging without track footage for the embargo
We need to see one of these with an MRT exhaust
Is it just me or does it need a lighter flywheel? The revs drop so slow.
Part of it is the bs environmental crap on things that doesn't change much. Sadly a lot of new cars have this rev hang on manuals
This or the GR Corolla Circuit Edition as a dual purpose daily and track car?
Does it snow where you live?
Civic type R
Do you have family?
Corolla. I would never trust a BMW engine
Is this an A91 with HUD? I have been having a hard time getting info on whether HUD is an option on the A91 - looks like it is?
It probably is because the a91 is technically a fully-specced supra
@@Toymonkeyjr 2022 A91-CF edition was missing the HUD.
@@Mrpancake72 weird
@@Toymonkeyjr And it does not show as an option on the US configurator
@@Toymonkeyjr right? I thought the same. Also it's alcantara instead of leather. Feels like the a91 was a downgrade for more money
No drifting allowed? You seemed restrained, I was waiting to see you slide it.
RIP MK4 Manual??? MK5 Manual???
niceee
it's a very good sports car, regardless of what overly judgmental opinions say. This might make it a little bit better? The automatic, is a missile. Have owned for a little while. May look at
one of these? Thanks for the video.
@TheTopher, what do you like better, the Supra or RC-F now that Supra has a manual?
I would go RCF all day. That V8 is intoxicating, and it's a better looking car to me.
@@RS3NDIT I really like the RC-F and that engine or even the IS500, but the lack of a manual 😢.
I know, I am being way too picky.
That fake engine noise would have to go day #1... Can't even tolerate a 5min video of this sound.
I know! Sounds like a the new gr86/brz
Yeah I'm programming that out first thing as well.
Yo how am I seeing comments from 3 days ago when the video was posted 2 hours ago 💀
It was unlisted.
What colour is this mk5?
what color is this
Waiting for someone to do one of these tests with the fake engine noise coded out. It overwhelms the entire cockpit. The B58 sounds great on its own, no need for this nonsense.
Whats the Price ?
Where is the thoughts video man,
Not offering a manual at launch was a huge mistake by BMW. Calling it a Supra was a big mistake by Toyota.
Wonder how many people on the Internet who said they wouldn't buy a Supra unless it came in a manual will actually put their money where their mouth is.
depending on if i can actually find one and at MSRP I will absolutely buy one. Im in the market.
So 3 mins ago uploaded, comments from 3 days ago.....
I was all about it but despise the European engine and some technology/computers. I bought a new European car with 0.0 miles, and had nothing but computer, fuses, and mechanical issues; and flaws technology that could have got me killed. The Toyota GR86 is another disappointment with that Subaru Accent 2.4 engine boxer.
I have a feeling the majority of those that want to buy this car... Won't actually buy it.
if i can find one in the next few months for MSRP i'll buy it. im in the market
@@StrongerThanEver84 that's the near impossible thing tho. It'll be rare to find one MSRP.
I'd still pick an automatic
Me too, I love the 8 speed so much.
its okay to admit you can’t drive standard
i still cant believe every automatic comes with a special toyota purse.😂
the piped in-cabin engine/exhaust sounds are horrible, sounds like a bad video game. other than that dope ride
Longest third gear ever, lol
This felt bland to me… it’s not the stick, the problem is still the car imo
ofc bmw gave toyota the paint color💀
This comes in close with the z, I think the z is better for the money for sure, and isn't a BMW! Just saying this ain't no f****** two Jay z!
That v6 sounds really good!
i6
Too much rev hang
It’s probably because of the rev assist, you can turn it off and do heel-toe shifting if you want
Does a video con the manual Supra…. Shifts like 3 times. 🤦♂️
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looks like TheTopher is not too happy about how they made this car, therefore a silient demostration only.
Oh the new manual Supra is awesome! Track driving impressions are coming soon
i think you missed his review from the other day then cause he was raving about it
I might consider buying one when they change how ugly it looks. Too narrow and bubbly. Very feminine car
So is your 4 banger
@@thelotto1262 I own a Cadillac V. Try again clown boy
@@cabbagehead8082 It’s still a Cadillac…
Calling a car masculine or feminine makes no sense to me.
@@Barbwire710 right? Lol how silly