Watch out so you don't get assassinated for competing with a business, criticizing a business or a rich person, forming a labor union, politically organizing to get laws passed in favor of people who don't own businesses/aren't rich(aka things have happened in capitalist countries countless times and still happen in them to this day)
@@Jibriltz dont blame this generation for what their parents did... I bet you just ignore slavery and constant oppression of native americans but bring up to every German and Japanese citizen that their ancestors are killers...
(North Korean news) This just in! Yankee Dog gun smith is in shock of how Perfect north Koreas pistols are. Clams that North Korean gun making is best he ever saw.Praise Great leader for making this gun in heaven for our solders.
Years ago, my Pops got a pistol almost exactly like this one. It came packed in grease. 50 bucks. But, it was Chinese, 9mm, and slightly bigger. It even had a star on the grips in the same spot. It turned out to be a great little pistol. Very accurate and reliable, and it made a funky sound when fired. Kinda like 'VAPOWP!' He got pulled over by CHP one day while taking the deposit to the bank. 8 grand in cash and about a grand in checks. (We owned a pretty busy bar) the gun was laying on top of the bank bag, in plain site. The cop said that because there was a full mag in the well, that it was illegal, confiscated the gun, and cited him into court. Pops went to court, argued his case and won. But, they ruled the gun to be a 'nuisance gun' and kept it, 'to be destroyed'. I wonder who is carrying it now.
Actually, the star you are talking about is center mass on the grips and not towards the top of the grip as in the North Korean type 70. This is typical for older Chinese guns from the 1920's on. www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanrifleman.org%2Fmedia%2Fhnljom32%2Fhorman-norincotype54-2.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1920%26height%3D1080&tbnid=366u1Gcahu-RjM&vet=12ahUKEwj6_cSc2bv-AhVKM94AHT8GAUoQMygCegQIARBl..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanrifleman.org%2Fcontent%2Freview-norinco-type-54-from-aim-surplus%2F&docid=_Mku5D5njUNgCM&w=1920&h=1080&q=chinese%201920%27s%20star%20on%20gun%20grip&ved=2ahUKEwj6_cSc2bv-AhVKM94AHT8GAUoQMygCegQIARBl
@@chrisholder4978 You realize China has about 600 different pistols they've copied right? He's not talking about a Tokarev clone, everybody knows the Tokarev.
For the marking on the slide with the Korean characters, it says Joseon and not type 70 which is the old name for Korea and what the North Koreans refer to themselves as
airwick4u That way of romanizing korean has always seemed off kilter for me. Chosun I think is a better way of putting it. Choi is pronounced chuwaye instead of the choyee that most westerners mistake it for.
@Question Mark Chosun sounds far more like 조선 than Joseon, and imo that should be the "right" spelling. The whole Joseon thing comes from the absolutely stupid idea that every Korean letter should be equivalent to a single syllable.
Mister Yeet - Oh perhaps you missed it, in the description it says the gun didn’t sell at the auction. I was curious how much the reserve was as that was the reason it didn’t sell. I don’t mean the gun as a whole product line, but that individual gun in the video.
+Jessie Edsell sorry, "Barack I have AIDS Obama" is the guy I replied to. The host of this show is a really cool dude named Ian, who fans have nicknamed Gun Jesus. He even shot a 2 gun action match for Halloween in full Jesus costume.
If I were to guess, I'd say it probably came through a smuggling route. Someone brought this to sell outside the hermit kingdom in exchange for contraband from the outside to bring back in.
No, they did back in Vietnam (even some guys smuggled back auto AK's and amnesty registered them) but that was the last war to bring back trophies I think. My unit went through Iraq and we weren't even allowed to take one of the golden plated Dragunov copies back for the unit's HQ display.
TheBic4 IIRC it is still technically possible to bring back certain firearms as war trophies. The issue is that it needs to be signed off on by the CO, and most of them don't want to go through the hassle so they don't allow their men to do it (thereby covering their own ass)
That Man who shot the Japanese Leader was actually my Great Great Uncle Ahn Jung Geun. My grandfather recalls all the stories directly from his family about him up until he shot Ito Hirobumi. Beyond a skilled marksman and assassin, he was also a very accomplished poet and devout christian. He is the big role model in our family and is a huge deal for everyone still.
This is actually one of the coolest pieces I've seen on the channel. It seems to me like there are actually some pretty good people in the North Korean weapons design industry. Given the limitations they probably had (caliber, very limited R&D, budget, materials, manufacturing facilities), it seems like they did quite a good job of making a decent gun. As for the mismatched magazine, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it never had a matching one. I'd guess the gun itself and the mag were made at different factories or at least on different production lines, and it wouldn't be shocking in a country like NK if they just grabbed a mag and a gun out of stacks of both and slapped them together, or even if mags and guns were shipped separately and paired in the field.
@MarxistWelder kind of funny to hear this from someone with soviet nazi coat of arms avatar. We all know with this symbol hundreds of millions been killed and tenth of countries occupied and multiple genocides committed...who couldn't defend themselves. This symbol is undisputed number 1 in terms killing defenseless people
I'm sure it would be used much like the Russians used the Makarov: for close quarters cleanup only. Seems perfectly adequate for dispatching your average prisoner or making an example of a deserter.
+SMGJohn Whereas you have ample evidence that North Korean goods are far superior despite never seeing, holding, or using anything made by them in your entire life? Dude, you're fucking pathetic.
Jessie, to be fair. North Korea did have a stronger industriall force above South Korea for decades after the civil war. Weapon industry is probably rather well made and proficient, being a domestic producer of a smal pool of guns such as that one and their AK variants. So the factories they have probably make some really high quality goods since they have had decades to make them. Plus, as I stated, North korea had a better economy than South Korea did for a long time. Eventually South korea got into the electronics market with top notch electronics and started rising ahead while North Korea lacked behind, but when they were both on an even technological level North Korea was actually superior. If they are superior today, that is arguable however. North Koreas isolationism did kill its advantage and now its economy is at best slowly advancing. Heavy gear like weapons and the like are however something North Korea probably still do good in producing. Its not modern plastic rifles afterall, but metalic good ol' weapons which they produce themselves. South Korea imports and imported a lot of weapons in the past instead of making their own ones. Like American M16's and the likes. I've heard they have some nice steel actually, but I've never actually got to see it myself.
Uhhh ya communists tend to make good shit because you know the whole workers control the means of production though many marxists die hards would not call the DPRK communist since Juche is actually pretty different than Marxism
I am actually very impressed with the machining on this little gun! I had no idea North Korea developed its own unique firearms, and given how comically horrible the infrastructure of the country is, I'm amazed this pistol actually looks pretty solid, especially compared to that Iraqi knock off Beretta that was on the channel a few minths back. Thanks for the great video! I love being able to see the auction pieces here on TH-cam. I wonder if Rock Island has to thank Ian for sending some of their winning bidders their way?
"comically horrible infrastructure"? Don´t believe CNN propaganda. Korea was a "Japanese province" for almost a Century, and the North was actually the Industrialized part; South was Agricultural. So North Koreans actually inherited WW2 Japanese weapons manufacturing plants. Old style but very solid. It shows in their weapons. They produced 730 thousand tonnes of steel in 2020, not bad.
Possibly a war trophy? I've heard that sometimes insurgent groups buy small arms from NK, so perhaps from that into a conflict zone in the middle east, and from there a US soldier claimed it after a fight possibly? I dunno how the rules on trophies of war work or if weapons are allowed though.
@@Exarian I doubt a US solder brought it back. They're not allowed to have any fun nowadays. So many stories of TSA throwing out rocket launchers (empty plastic tubes) that soldiers brought back for souvenirs.
I really got a CZ-52 vibe off of this one initially. Kind of like they miniaturized it a small amount for .32ACP and fiddled with some other things from different com bloc pistols. Very cool.
Doug Culpepper You’re absolute fucking idiot. This pistol is a browning model this same guy who made the M1911, who was American. Also, I don’t know where this notion came from that the AK 47 is more reliable than the M-16, but it is complete bullshit. There have been multiple modern studies on the reliability of these rifles, and every time the M-16 comes out on top, The only time it doesn’t is when the study was conducted poorly. Lastly, the M-16 was ahead of its time and it’s still used today in civilian use as the AR 15, it revolutionized the intermediate cartridge and the use of lightweight polymer. However, the AK-47 is exactly like all the guns that came before it. It’s just a automatic SKS with a shorter barrel and a bigger mag.
@@dosmundos3830 Actually the Kalashnikov has only been produced by Russia and USSR therefore only countries affiliated with communism were ever able to purehase them and no USA didn't copy it nor did Finland there have been inspirations but no direct copies of the Kalashnikov from the west some weapons that were inspired by the Kalashnikov include type 86s (china), PA Md.86 ( Romania), Tabuk (iraq), PA md.65 (Romainia) they did have interchangable parts but were not full copies. China has made copies after gaining license and they started producing full on copies such as the Type 81 (China)
@The Ztalker Actuall, you don't know what you're talking about. Manufacturing countries of AK-47 and its variants in alphabetical order. Country Military variant(s) Albania [77] Automatiku Shqiptar 1978 model 56 (ASH-78 Tip-1) made at Poliçan Arsenal (copy of Type 56 based on AKM rifle); model 56 Tip-2, copy of RPK; model 56 Tip-3 hybrid for multi-purpose roles with secondary assault rifle and grenade launcher capability; 1982 model (ASH-82) copy of AKMS. Several other versions of the AKMS have been produced mainly with short barrels similar to Soviet AKS-74U for special forces, tank & armoured crew and for helicopter pilots and police. There have also been modified ASh-82 (AKMS) with SOPMOD accessories, mainly for Albania's special forces RENEA & exports.[77] Armenia K-3 (bullpup, 5.45×39mm) Azerbaijan [78] Khazri (AK-74M)[78] Bangladesh Chinese Type 56 Bulgaria AKK/AKKS (Type 3 AK-47/w. side-folding buttstock); AKKMS (AKMS), AKKN-47 (fittings for NPSU night sights); AK-47M1 (Type 3 with black polymer furniture); AK-47MA1/AR-M1 (same as -M1, but in 5.56mm NATO); AKS-47M1 (AKMS in 5.56×45mm NATO); AKS-47S (AK-47M1, short version, with East German folding stock, laser aiming device); AKS-47UF (short version of -M1, Russian folding stock), AR-SF (same as −47UF, but 5.56mm NATO); AKS-93SM6 (similar to −47M1, cannot use grenade launcher); and RKKS (RPK), AKT-47 (.22 rimfire training rifle) Cambodia Chinese Type 56, Soviet AK-47, and AKM China Type 56 Colombia Galil ACE Croatia APS-95 Cuba [79] AKM [79] East Germany [80] MPi-K/MPi-KS (AK-47/AKS); MPi-KM (AKM; wooden and plastic stock), MPi-KMS-72 (side-folding stock), MPi-KMS-K (carbine); MPi-AK-74N (AK-74), MPi-AKS-74N (side-folding stock), MPi-AKS-74NK (carbine); KK-MPi Mod.69 (.22 LR select-fire trainer) [80] Egypt AK-47, Misr assault rifle (AKMS), Maadi ARM (AKM) Ethiopia [81] AK-47, AK-103 (manufactured locally at the State-run Gafat Armament Engineering Complex as the Et-97/1) [81] Finland Rk 62, Valmet M76 (other names Rk 62 76, M62/76), Valmet M78 (light machine gun), Rk 95 Tp Hungary [82] AK-55 (domestic manufacture of the 2nd Model AK-47); AKM-63 (also known as AMD-63 in the US; modernized AK-55), AMD-65M (modernized AKM-63, shorter barrel and side-folding stock), AMP-69 (rifle grenade launcher); AK-63F/D (other name AMM/AMMSz), AK-63MF (modernized); NGM-81 (5.56×45mm NATO; fixed and under-folding stock) [82] India [83] INSAS (fixed and side-folding stock), KALANTAK (carbine), INSAS light machine gun (fixed and side-folding stock), a local unlicensed version with carbon fibre furniture designated as AK-7;[83] and Trichy Assault Rifle 7.62 mm manufactured by Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli of Ordnance Factories Board[84] Iran KLS/KLF (AK-47/AKS), KLT (AKMS) Iraq Tabuk Sniper Rifle, Tabuk Assault Rifle (with fixed or underfolding stock, outright clones of Yugoslavian M70 rifles series), Tabuk Short Assault Rifle (carbine) Israel IMI Galil: AR (assault/battle rifle), ARM (assault rifle/light machine gun), SAR (carbine), MAR (compact carbine), Sniper (sniper rifle), SR-99 (sniper rifle); and Galil ACE Italy [85] Bernardelli VB-STD/VB-SR (Galil AR/SAR) [85] Nigeria [86] Produced by the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria as OBJ-006[87][86] North Korea Type 58A/B (Type 3 AK-47/w. stamped steel folding stock), Type 68A/B (AKM/AKMS), Type 88A/B-2 (AK-74/AKS-74/w. top folding stock)[88][89] Pakistan [90] Reverse engineered by hand and machine in Pakistan's highland areas (see Khyber Pass Copy) near the border of Afghanistan; more recently the Pakistan Ordnance Factories started the manufacture of an AK-47/AKM clone called PK-10 [90] Poland [91] PmK (kbk AK) / PmKS (kbk AKS), Kalashnikov SMG name change to Kbk AK, Kalashnikov Carbine in 1960s, (AK-47/AKS); kbkg wz. 1960 (rifle grenade launcher), kbkg wz. 1960/72 (modernized); kbk AKM / kbk AKMS (AKM/AKMS); kbk wz. 1988 Tantal (5.45×39mm), skbk wz. 1989 Onyks (compact carbine); kbs wz. 1996 Beryl (5.56×45mm), kbk wz. 1996 Mini-Beryl (compact carbine) [91] Romania PM md. 63/65 (AKM/AKMS), PM md. 80, PM md. 90, collectively exported under the umbrella name AIM or AIMS; PA md. 86 (AK-74) exported as the AIMS-74; PM md. 90 short barrel, PA md. 86 short barrel exported as the AIMR; PSL (designated marksman rifle; other names PSL-54C, Romak III, FPK and SSG-97) South Africa R4 assault rifle, Truvelo Raptor, Vektor CR-21 (bullpup) Sudan [92] MAZ (based on the Type 56) [92] Ukraine [93] Vepr (bullpup, 5.45×39mm), Malyuk (bullpup)[93] United States Century Arms: C39 (AK-47 var.), RAS47 (AKM var.), and C39v2 (AK-47 var.)), InterOrdnance: AKM247 (AKM var.) M214 (pistol), Palmetto State Armory: PSAK-47 (AKM var.), Arsenal Inc: SA M-7 (AK-47 var.), Destructive Devices Industries: DDI 47S (AKM var.) DDI 47M (AK-47 var), Rifle Dynamics: RD700 and other custom build AK / AKM guns Vietnam AKM-1 (AKM), TUL-1 (RPK), Galil Ace 31/32 Venezuela [94] License granted, factory under construction[94] Yugoslavia/Serbia M64, M70, M72, M76, M77, M80, M82, M85, M90, M91, M92, M99, M21
Interesting how the barrel moves. It may be intended to act as a sort of short recoil system. The barrel can move back until the bullet leaves the barrel, allowing the pressure to drop before initiating extraction. I think that the "recoil buffer" in the barrel lug is to push the barrel and slide into battery. Without that part, the barrel and slide would just rattle back and forth loose. The main recoil spring only pushes the slide forward relative to the barrel.
Wow. Never expected that pistol to be so simple, and yet I didn't even expect that simplicity from N Korea. Knowing how behind modern society they are, that seems light years ahead of what I expected to see.
I think its interesting how in industries as different as missile submarines to sidearms, the North Koreans don't just copy the Chinese or the Soviet designs and have actually evolved their own unique arms industry.
Both are children of the Walther PP design so they are inherently very similar. Other countries like the Czech republic and Poland also adopted similar derivatives like the CZ-70 and P64.
Now this is interesting. Gives you a little insight into their thinking, engineering. Looks like a bootleg Bersa .380, and if that’s the kinda shit the “top officers” got....then we got nothing to worry about.
The rumors of GIs mailing back 'stuff' part by part were true in my term in the military. I'm sure a pistol like this could have easily been shipped home in a brass pot or other 'souvenir' that was allowed.
North Korea is really behind on small arms technology. To my knowledge the most advanced pistol they use is a copy of the CZ-75. As for rifles their main weapon is the AKM, both Chinese and locally produced. They have been trying to replace the AKM with the AK-74 for a while now. Work in progress. Still though, just because it is outdated does not mean it is not effective.
Take a look att the chines colection of pistols. their is some shity guns made. If it wasen´t for the star and It was a North Korean weapon. my thought was that a Garagesmith took Ideas from his favorit pistols and made somthing of it. Remember gowrement guns comes from the lowest bider.
I'm impatiently waiting for the collapse of the NK .gov.......those 3500 dollar North Korean SKS carbines would immediately be worth 400 or less and I can't wait to get mine! Don't forget the cool AK parts kits too.
It looks like a makarov, just without the inherent accuracy of a fixed barrel, DA/SA trigger, more ergonomic saftey/decocker, easy disassembly or the slight power boost of a 9×18 over a 32, I'll take one!
At Last! An individual that appreciates the merits of a "Precision Plastic Disassembly Tool" as much as I do!! Footnote: At times, it also masquerades as a Precision Plastic ASSEMBLY Tool.
Let's conspire to make a forged NK pistol, model 72 - I'm sure Ian could suggest a viable list of attributes and several American machinists and gunsmiths could finish a prototype - only need a dozen or so to get the money back from auction houses in 5 to 7 countries. Just need to learn enough Korean writing to avoid labeling it, "Kimings, Kimings, Kimings"
Don't know why but at first I thought it looked a bit more like a Remington Model 51 than a Mak but I think my perception of the proportions were just off. It def looks more like a Makarov.
For the 7.62 caliber, I suspect it might be correct if it were a copy or import of the Chinese Type 1964 pistol ammunition, which looks a lot like the 7.65, but is 7.62. The type 64 looks kind of like a PPK on the outside, but has guts that are more like a Markrov.
Ian-Great video, as always. Will you ever do a video on the TT-33? The Tok has always been near and dear to my heart and I'd love to see an in depth review of this not forgotten weapon. I am especially interested in it's ammo evolution from the 7.63 Mauser and widespread use as subgun ammunition after WWII-John in Texas
How did this gun fail to sell at the auction?!. i guess the starting price was too steep?. i would have definitely wanted to buy it if guns was my thing
Something I've never understood about countries with limited technology in the modern era: if you're going to produce a semi-auto pistol which only has a six or seven round capacity, why not just make revolvers? The only reason I can think of is that auto cartridges are much more common.
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Till this day there is probably an N-K officer walking around with a wooden pistol blackened with shoe pollish because he does not dare to report the gun missing.
Definitely a rare gun to find... hell I searched up quite a large amount of South Korean internet sites to figure out the history of it and I was not able to get any out of... one thing I found is that type 70 is based on FN M1910 pistol... and that is pretty much it. No history why it was made, used by who (eg. North korean spies used type 66 and 68 when they infiltrated South Korea in 1960's), and amount of distributions among the army. I bet even after Korea is united together, the value of the gun will be high since the South Korean government would not tolerate any materialistic existence in North Korean era.(to prevent from people glorifying and worshipping Kim family) Good job on getting hands on the gun !
The reason that North Korea copied Browing M1900 is, that this gun played an important role in the history of East Asia nations, and was famous for its high quality and service behaviors. When those partisans who used this "good weapon" gripped power later, it's no strange that they wanted every pistol to be as good as this one. The similar case happened in China, too. in 1980, factories produced a "type 80" full-auto pistol based on the originial concept of Mauser M1932, the full-auto variant of C96
I have another possibility for that little spring pin on the breach. It might be to index the barrel when the slide is closed, by putting a little bit of pressure to push it forward. If it works it might mean that you can cut corners on the machining of the slide and barrel, lowering production costs, without hindering the accuracy of the gun. It is also possible that giving it looser tolerances and having that spring would improve its reliability in dusty/muddy conditions (The AK effect).
This is interesting to see what a relatively low tech country unencumbered by patents can do. I imagine that thing is pretty reliable considering the simplicity. Also, with the locked breach design firing a .32 ACP round I imagine would be very tolerant of poor material quality and bad ammo. Seems like a perfect pistol for North Korea, honestly.
Thats pretty dang neat! If only that gun could tell its life story! It would be neat to know how it came to be here! Kinda curiously funny,this is the issued gun for high ranking officers yet is so basic and simple and perhaps slightly crude but it looks to be fairly well made. Very curious that they didn't go with a fixed barrel and kept using such a legacy cartridge so long. It would be neat to shoot and a cool piece of militaria to own! Given rare officers guns though, I would much rather have a Russian PSM with aluminum grips, that is a very cool gun! Wonder what the value of this Type 70 is and the PSM.
Of all people to have one of these is my great uncle he was in North Korea doing some dark ops work in the 50's he came a cross a officer with one of these in his pocket and a type 64 in a shoulder holster and he still has them. P.S He will not sell those pistols.
I had M-1911-A1 made by Springfield caliber 9mm parabellum that look like my old Coly M-1911 military caliber .45ACP. I had my gunsmiths went over only my M-1911 Colt and it safe to shoot. The Springfield M-1911A1 look like Colt M-1911 but never test fire for safety due to my gunsmiths in CT pass away and I can not effort to pay for another gunsmiths.
This gun probably has one heck of a story.
Also watch out so you don't get assassinated for revealing state secrets.
Watch out so you don't get assassinated for competing with a business, criticizing a business or a rich person, forming a labor union, politically organizing to get laws passed in favor of people who don't own businesses/aren't rich(aka things have happened in capitalist countries countless times and still happen in them to this day)
@Kyle Castloo He said while foaming at the mouth.
@@anaxa4883 BAHAHAHAHA CITATION NEEDED!!
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@@anaxa4883 If you were in an actual communist country you wouldn't have TH-cam or internet or food.
"Japan and Korea have had a pretty unpleasant relationship together" as repeated invasions and genocide tends to do
Just a little genocide here and there, no biggie.
Plus no apology and not teaching kids you murdered as many people as the Nazis did.
And constant denying it later
@@Jibriltz dont blame this generation for what their parents did... I bet you just ignore slavery and constant oppression of native americans but bring up to every German and Japanese citizen that their ancestors are killers...
@@DraxixDude Most of us don't blame the current generation of Japanese citizens. We just blame their government that tries to brainwash people
(North Korean news) This just in! Yankee Dog gun smith is in shock of how Perfect north Koreas pistols are. Clams that North Korean gun making is best he ever saw.Praise Great leader for making this gun in heaven for our solders.
gypshasballs22 I mean, it's an impressively simple and sexy gun. Probably reliable as hell. I'd kill for one with a double stack magazine.
gypshasballs22 ahhahahahahahhahahaha
Sexy? You'd probably kill for a bag of booger's and a glass of rat piss!!! TAPE WORM BREATHE:-)
polygondwanaland No need for you to kill, the North Koreeans will be happy to kill a couple of themselves for the labor to make this gun.
gypshasballs22 cool
Years ago, my Pops got a pistol almost exactly like this one. It came packed in grease. 50 bucks. But, it was Chinese, 9mm, and slightly bigger. It even had a star on the grips in the same spot. It turned out to be a great little pistol. Very accurate and reliable, and it made a funky sound when fired. Kinda like 'VAPOWP!' He got pulled over by CHP one day while taking the deposit to the bank. 8 grand in cash and about a grand in checks. (We owned a pretty busy bar) the gun was laying on top of the bank bag, in plain site. The cop said that because there was a full mag in the well, that it was illegal, confiscated the gun, and cited him into court. Pops went to court, argued his case and won. But, they ruled the gun to be a 'nuisance gun' and kept it, 'to be destroyed'. I wonder who is carrying it now.
I’m guessing Type 59, the Chinese Makarov?
Actually, the star you are talking about is center mass on the grips
and not towards the top of the grip as in the North Korean type 70.
This is typical for older Chinese guns from the 1920's on.
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@@chrisholder4978 You realize China has about 600 different pistols they've copied right? He's not talking about a Tokarev clone, everybody knows the Tokarev.
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For the marking on the slide with the Korean characters, it says Joseon and not type 70 which is the old name for Korea and what the North Koreans refer to themselves as
airwick4u Thanks!
airwick4u That way of romanizing korean has always seemed off kilter for me. Chosun I think is a better way of putting it. Choi is pronounced chuwaye instead of the choyee that most westerners mistake it for.
Acutally Joseon is North Korea's real name, their name is '조선민주주의인민공화국' in English, 'Democratic People's of Repulic of Joseon'.
@Question Mark Chosun sounds far more like 조선 than Joseon, and imo that should be the "right" spelling. The whole Joseon thing comes from the absolutely stupid idea that every Korean letter should be equivalent to a single syllable.
"failed to sell at auction"
kind of sad
Likely didn't reach the reserve amount.
c k not only that but they probably priced it well over $5,000
@Jerrol Hale That's certainly not true (and this does have some provenance). It's not like it's a mystery pistol.
I think they missed their chance to sell it. Probably will have an opportunity to buy several such pistols in better condition once NK opens up.
Looks just like a makarov which are quite common online and pretty cheap, i got mine for 225$, they clearly got the design for this gun from a makarov
Would anyone happen to know why it didn’t sell? I can’t imagine that it didn’t make the reserve, this thing is very cool.
Because it's from North Korea
Mister Yeet - I think that makes it more appealing to be honest.
@@zerg9523 Yes but North Korea doesnt export things so thats why theyre rare
Mister Yeet - Oh perhaps you missed it, in the description it says the gun didn’t sell at the auction. I was curious how much the reserve was as that was the reason it didn’t sell.
I don’t mean the gun as a whole product line, but that individual gun in the video.
@@zerg9523 Oh but it might be because it's expensive
When looking at the markings at 3:00 "조선" doesn't mean "Type 70" It says "Joseon" which is Korea's old name.
+Kimin Bang I know. I'm saying Ian mistranslated what 조선 meant.
+Barack "I have AIDS" Obama the guy who hosts this show, Gun Jesus.
+Jessie Edsell sorry, "Barack I have AIDS Obama" is the guy I replied to. The host of this show is a really cool dude named Ian, who fans have nicknamed Gun Jesus. He even shot a 2 gun action match for Halloween in full Jesus costume.
Josh Callejas Oh I got what you meant after a few minutes lol. The guy's username confused me.
The last few sentences of this thread is hilarious LMAO XD
Pretty elegant and simple.
Really quite neat. How did this exactly get into the US?
That raises even more question though. Guess we'll either have to wait for Ian or we'll never know.
REMOVE MUGABE I have no idea how it got here. Wish I did!
If I were to guess, I'd say it probably came through a smuggling route. Someone brought this to sell outside the hermit kingdom in exchange for contraband from the outside to bring back in.
No, they did back in Vietnam (even some guys smuggled back auto AK's and amnesty registered them) but that was the last war to bring back trophies I think. My unit went through Iraq and we weren't even allowed to take one of the golden plated Dragunov copies back for the unit's HQ display.
TheBic4 IIRC it is still technically possible to bring back certain firearms as war trophies. The issue is that it needs to be signed off on by the CO, and most of them don't want to go through the hassle so they don't allow their men to do it (thereby covering their own ass)
That Man who shot the Japanese Leader was actually my Great Great Uncle Ahn Jung Geun. My grandfather recalls all the stories directly from his family about him up until he shot Ito Hirobumi. Beyond a skilled marksman and assassin, he was also a very accomplished poet and devout christian. He is the big role model in our family and is a huge deal for everyone still.
This is actually one of the coolest pieces I've seen on the channel.
It seems to me like there are actually some pretty good people in the North Korean weapons design industry. Given the limitations they probably had (caliber, very limited R&D, budget, materials, manufacturing facilities), it seems like they did quite a good job of making a decent gun.
As for the mismatched magazine, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it never had a matching one. I'd guess the gun itself and the mag were made at different factories or at least on different production lines, and it wouldn't be shocking in a country like NK if they just grabbed a mag and a gun out of stacks of both and slapped them together, or even if mags and guns were shipped separately and paired in the field.
dude people get shot for less over there so it's highly unlikely
@MarxistWelder 25 million is more than enough for its size. human life worth nothing over there
@MarxistWelder kind of funny to hear this from someone with soviet nazi coat of arms avatar. We all know with this symbol hundreds of millions been killed and tenth of countries occupied and multiple genocides committed...who couldn't defend themselves. This symbol is undisputed number 1 in terms killing defenseless people
@MarxistWelder take if off dumbass piece of shit
@@samuelreed1830 i live in ussr and know a thing or 2 about commie. every related to military crime or mistake considered as treason and punished hard
Ian where can I buy a signed percision plastic disassembly tool?
Percision?
@@timfondiggle2582 "Precision" misspelled, most likely.
Walmart, in the office supplies.
This is a beautiful gun. The owner of it should be very proud. I would have definitely bought this if I could!
"Precision Plastic Disassembly Tool" (Abbreviated as PPDT).
i.e. pen cap.
That's brilliant.
and to this day he still uses different variants of it!
I guess they don't need super advanced pistols when they're shooting unarmed civilians :L
I'm sure it would be used much like the Russians used the Makarov: for close quarters cleanup only. Seems perfectly adequate for dispatching your average prisoner or making an example of a deserter.
***** how did you get access to the internet?
Joshua Tuffnell Doesn't stop the Israelis.
+Joshua Tuffnell Kind of like American police.
Joshua Tuffnell unfortunately your statement is true and correct.
This pistol is surprisingly well machined.
+SMGJohn Whereas you have ample evidence that North Korean goods are far superior despite never seeing, holding, or using anything made by them in your entire life?
Dude, you're fucking pathetic.
MrZapparin YEAH I'M PISSED lol
+SMGJohn How? from what the UN gathers, the DRPK makes most of its money via its illegal arms industry and printing fake US money.
Jessie,
to be fair.
North Korea did have a stronger industriall force above South Korea for decades after the civil war.
Weapon industry is probably rather well made and proficient, being a domestic producer of a smal pool of guns such as that one and their AK variants. So the factories they have probably make some really high quality goods since they have had decades to make them.
Plus, as I stated, North korea had a better economy than South Korea did for a long time. Eventually South korea got into the electronics market with top notch electronics and started rising ahead while North Korea lacked behind, but when they were both on an even technological level North Korea was actually superior. If they are superior today, that is arguable however. North Koreas isolationism did kill its advantage and now its economy is at best slowly advancing.
Heavy gear like weapons and the like are however something North Korea probably still do good in producing. Its not modern plastic rifles afterall, but metalic good ol' weapons which they produce themselves. South Korea imports and imported a lot of weapons in the past instead of making their own ones. Like American M16's and the likes.
I've heard they have some nice steel actually, but I've never actually got to see it myself.
Uhhh ya communists tend to make good shit because you know the whole workers control the means of production though many marxists die hards would not call the DPRK communist since Juche is actually pretty different than Marxism
That was a really wonderfully simple design! A lot more original than I would expect from North Korea. I'd own one.
It looks fairly well made
I am actually very impressed with the machining on this little gun! I had no idea North Korea developed its own unique firearms, and given how comically horrible the infrastructure of the country is, I'm amazed this pistol actually looks pretty solid, especially compared to that Iraqi knock off Beretta that was on the channel a few minths back.
Thanks for the great video! I love being able to see the auction pieces here on TH-cam. I wonder if Rock Island has to thank Ian for sending some of their winning bidders their way?
"comically horrible infrastructure"? Don´t believe CNN propaganda. Korea was a "Japanese province" for almost a Century, and the North was actually the Industrialized part; South was Agricultural. So North Koreans actually inherited WW2 Japanese weapons manufacturing plants. Old style but very solid. It shows in their weapons. They produced 730 thousand tonnes of steel in 2020, not bad.
looks like a makarov, smells like a makarov, tastes like a makarov
and when I shoot myself in the head with it
it hurts
"Japan and Korea have had a very unpleasant relationship"... that's being under stated ☹️
Love to hear the story about how that came here. I bet the person who is selling it probably wouldn't wanna say though.
Possibly a war trophy? I've heard that sometimes insurgent groups buy small arms from NK, so perhaps from that into a conflict zone in the middle east, and from there a US soldier claimed it after a fight possibly? I dunno how the rules on trophies of war work or if weapons are allowed though.
@@Exarian I doubt a US solder brought it back. They're not allowed to have any fun nowadays. So many stories of TSA throwing out rocket launchers (empty plastic tubes) that soldiers brought back for souvenirs.
I really got a CZ-52 vibe off of this one initially. Kind of like they miniaturized it a small amount for .32ACP and fiddled with some other things from different com bloc pistols. Very cool.
You beat me to it!
Still their most modern pistol
It's single action ... no way to rationalize that for a military design.
Doug Culpepper You’re absolute fucking idiot. This pistol is a browning model this same guy who made the M1911, who was American.
Also, I don’t know where this notion came from that the AK 47 is more reliable than the M-16, but it is complete bullshit. There have been multiple modern studies on the reliability of these rifles, and every time the M-16 comes out on top, The only time it doesn’t is when the study was conducted poorly.
Lastly, the M-16 was ahead of its time and it’s still used today in civilian use as the AR 15, it revolutionized the intermediate cartridge and the use of lightweight polymer. However, the AK-47 is exactly like all the guns that came before it. It’s just a automatic SKS with a shorter barrel and a bigger mag.
@@dosmundos3830 Actually the Kalashnikov has only been produced by Russia and USSR therefore only countries affiliated with communism were ever able to purehase them and no USA didn't copy it nor did Finland there have been inspirations but no direct copies of the Kalashnikov from the west some weapons that were inspired by the Kalashnikov include type 86s (china), PA Md.86 ( Romania), Tabuk (iraq), PA md.65 (Romainia) they did have interchangable parts but were not full copies. China has made copies after gaining license and they started producing full on copies such as the Type 81 (China)
@The Ztalker Actuall, you don't know what you're talking about. Manufacturing countries of AK-47 and its variants in alphabetical order.
Country Military variant(s)
Albania [77] Automatiku Shqiptar 1978 model 56 (ASH-78 Tip-1) made at Poliçan Arsenal (copy of Type 56 based on AKM rifle); model 56 Tip-2, copy of RPK; model 56 Tip-3 hybrid for multi-purpose roles with secondary assault rifle and grenade launcher capability; 1982 model (ASH-82) copy of AKMS. Several other versions of the AKMS have been produced mainly with short barrels similar to Soviet AKS-74U for special forces, tank & armoured crew and for helicopter pilots and police. There have also been modified ASh-82 (AKMS) with SOPMOD accessories, mainly for Albania's special forces RENEA & exports.[77]
Armenia K-3 (bullpup, 5.45×39mm)
Azerbaijan [78] Khazri (AK-74M)[78]
Bangladesh Chinese Type 56
Bulgaria AKK/AKKS (Type 3 AK-47/w. side-folding buttstock); AKKMS (AKMS), AKKN-47 (fittings for NPSU night sights); AK-47M1 (Type 3 with black polymer furniture); AK-47MA1/AR-M1 (same as -M1, but in 5.56mm NATO); AKS-47M1 (AKMS in 5.56×45mm NATO); AKS-47S (AK-47M1, short version, with East German folding stock, laser aiming device); AKS-47UF (short version of -M1, Russian folding stock), AR-SF (same as −47UF, but 5.56mm NATO); AKS-93SM6 (similar to −47M1, cannot use grenade launcher); and RKKS (RPK), AKT-47 (.22 rimfire training rifle)
Cambodia Chinese Type 56, Soviet AK-47, and AKM
China Type 56
Colombia Galil ACE
Croatia APS-95
Cuba [79] AKM [79]
East Germany [80] MPi-K/MPi-KS (AK-47/AKS); MPi-KM (AKM; wooden and plastic stock), MPi-KMS-72 (side-folding stock), MPi-KMS-K (carbine); MPi-AK-74N (AK-74), MPi-AKS-74N (side-folding stock), MPi-AKS-74NK (carbine); KK-MPi Mod.69 (.22 LR select-fire trainer) [80]
Egypt AK-47, Misr assault rifle (AKMS), Maadi ARM (AKM)
Ethiopia [81] AK-47, AK-103 (manufactured locally at the State-run Gafat Armament Engineering Complex as the Et-97/1) [81]
Finland Rk 62, Valmet M76 (other names Rk 62 76, M62/76), Valmet M78 (light machine gun), Rk 95 Tp
Hungary [82] AK-55 (domestic manufacture of the 2nd Model AK-47); AKM-63 (also known as AMD-63 in the US; modernized AK-55), AMD-65M (modernized AKM-63, shorter barrel and side-folding stock), AMP-69 (rifle grenade launcher); AK-63F/D (other name AMM/AMMSz), AK-63MF (modernized); NGM-81 (5.56×45mm NATO; fixed and under-folding stock) [82]
India [83] INSAS (fixed and side-folding stock), KALANTAK (carbine), INSAS light machine gun (fixed and side-folding stock), a local unlicensed version with carbon fibre furniture designated as AK-7;[83] and Trichy Assault Rifle 7.62 mm manufactured by Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli of Ordnance Factories Board[84]
Iran KLS/KLF (AK-47/AKS), KLT (AKMS)
Iraq Tabuk Sniper Rifle, Tabuk Assault Rifle (with fixed or underfolding stock, outright clones of Yugoslavian M70 rifles series), Tabuk Short Assault Rifle (carbine)
Israel IMI Galil: AR (assault/battle rifle), ARM (assault rifle/light machine gun), SAR (carbine), MAR (compact carbine), Sniper (sniper rifle), SR-99 (sniper rifle); and Galil ACE
Italy [85] Bernardelli VB-STD/VB-SR (Galil AR/SAR) [85]
Nigeria [86] Produced by the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria as OBJ-006[87][86]
North Korea Type 58A/B (Type 3 AK-47/w. stamped steel folding stock), Type 68A/B (AKM/AKMS), Type 88A/B-2 (AK-74/AKS-74/w. top folding stock)[88][89]
Pakistan [90] Reverse engineered by hand and machine in Pakistan's highland areas (see Khyber Pass Copy) near the border of Afghanistan; more recently the Pakistan Ordnance Factories started the manufacture of an AK-47/AKM clone called PK-10 [90]
Poland [91] PmK (kbk AK) / PmKS (kbk AKS), Kalashnikov SMG name change to Kbk AK, Kalashnikov Carbine in 1960s, (AK-47/AKS); kbkg wz. 1960 (rifle grenade launcher), kbkg wz. 1960/72 (modernized); kbk AKM / kbk AKMS (AKM/AKMS); kbk wz. 1988 Tantal (5.45×39mm), skbk wz. 1989 Onyks (compact carbine); kbs wz. 1996 Beryl (5.56×45mm), kbk wz. 1996 Mini-Beryl (compact carbine) [91]
Romania PM md. 63/65 (AKM/AKMS), PM md. 80, PM md. 90, collectively exported under the umbrella name AIM or AIMS; PA md. 86 (AK-74) exported as the AIMS-74; PM md. 90 short barrel, PA md. 86 short barrel exported as the AIMR; PSL (designated marksman rifle; other names PSL-54C, Romak III, FPK and SSG-97)
South Africa R4 assault rifle, Truvelo Raptor, Vektor CR-21 (bullpup)
Sudan [92] MAZ (based on the Type 56) [92]
Ukraine [93] Vepr (bullpup, 5.45×39mm), Malyuk (bullpup)[93]
United States Century Arms: C39 (AK-47 var.), RAS47 (AKM var.), and C39v2 (AK-47 var.)), InterOrdnance: AKM247 (AKM var.) M214 (pistol), Palmetto State Armory: PSAK-47 (AKM var.), Arsenal Inc: SA M-7 (AK-47 var.), Destructive Devices Industries: DDI 47S (AKM var.) DDI 47M (AK-47 var), Rifle Dynamics: RD700 and other custom build AK / AKM guns
Vietnam AKM-1 (AKM), TUL-1 (RPK), Galil Ace 31/32
Venezuela [94] License granted, factory under construction[94]
Yugoslavia/Serbia M64, M70, M72, M76, M77, M80, M82, M85, M90, M91, M92, M99, M21
@Blackout Guy spoils of war. much technology from all fields was "liberated" from Germany by the allies after the war.
I have absolutely zero idea how this gun ended up in America.
Interesting how the barrel moves. It may be intended to act as a sort of short recoil system. The barrel can move back until the bullet leaves the barrel, allowing the pressure to drop before initiating extraction.
I think that the "recoil buffer" in the barrel lug is to push the barrel and slide into battery. Without that part, the barrel and slide would just rattle back and forth loose. The main recoil spring only pushes the slide forward relative to the barrel.
+1 for the universal precision plastic disassembly tool.
Wow. Never expected that pistol to be so simple, and yet I didn't even expect that simplicity from N Korea. Knowing how behind modern society they are, that seems light years ahead of what I expected to see.
The markings on the slide say Joseon (조선), thats how North Korea calls it self.
"Old Korea"
Man you post these awesome videos just in time for lunch! You do a great job!
I think its interesting how in industries as different as missile submarines to sidearms, the North Koreans don't just copy the Chinese or the Soviet designs and have actually evolved their own unique arms industry.
This is the best weapon ever created.
I like your "precision plastic disassembly tool". Every gunsmith should have one of those in their toolbox!
Wow! Must have been tricky getting that
Tonight on CNN - NORTH KOREA REVEALS NEW DOOMSDAY WEAPON
Those damn fear mongering dumpster sluts
I think most surprising is the fact that it looks like its a reasonably good gun.
7.62. Hmm..
I wondered if they were measuring the barrel diameter from inner bore to inner bore instead of bullet-size...
this pistol looks eerily similar to the Russian 9x18 Makarov
Both are children of the Walther PP design so they are inherently very similar. Other countries like the Czech republic and Poland also adopted similar derivatives like the CZ-70 and P64.
And from the front...*bang!*
I wonder how they snuck that out and how it got here.
If I had money I would love to own it, I've always been fascinated with the 2 Koreas especially since I was stationed there twice.
Now this is interesting. Gives you a little insight into their thinking, engineering. Looks like a bootleg Bersa .380, and if that’s the kinda shit the “top officers” got....then we got nothing to worry about.
This gun has probably taken hundreds of innocent lives. It’s probably haunted.
could well be
The rumors of GIs mailing back 'stuff' part by part were true in my term in the military. I'm sure a pistol like this could have easily been shipped home in a brass pot or other 'souvenir' that was allowed.
North Korea is really behind on small arms technology. To my knowledge the most advanced pistol they use is a copy of the CZ-75. As for rifles their main weapon is the AKM, both Chinese and locally produced. They have been trying to replace the AKM with the AK-74 for a while now. Work in progress. Still though, just because it is outdated does not mean it is not effective.
how well made is it ?
Exploatores Seemed to be as well made as anything else I've seen.
Nobody would make shitty guns for their own country i wouldnt think lol.
Take a look att the chines colection of pistols. their is some shity guns made. If it wasen´t for the star and It was a North Korean weapon. my thought was that a Garagesmith took Ideas from his favorit pistols and made somthing of it. Remember gowrement guns comes from the lowest bider.
Gyk
@@gjigaqaquj unlike in the U.S. where your gun is made by the lowest bidder lol.
Did he say single action no safety ? Dangerous gun for everyone.
It has a cross bar safety. Did you not watch?
As a result of this video officer #2058 is now doing hard labour.
And his family.
@@GeneralChangFromDanang
And the dog.
JK, Kim ate the dog.
@@Imtotallydiggingthis Don't forget the cat, we asians do enjoy the taste of feline.
that pistol has probably splattered alot of brains
I'm impatiently waiting for the collapse of the NK .gov.......those 3500 dollar North Korean SKS carbines would immediately be worth 400 or less and I can't wait to get mine! Don't forget the cool AK parts kits too.
Anything NK already in the US would still command a premium for their lack of import marks.
RedXlV
Those 3500 dollar SKS rifles would be worth no more than 1000 bucks by then.
In your dreams
Mr English lolwut
+TheJeffNasty They're valuable because their rare. No one will want an inferior North Korean firearm if any Joe Blob could get their mitts on one
It looks like a makarov, just without the inherent accuracy of a fixed barrel, DA/SA trigger, more ergonomic saftey/decocker, easy disassembly or the slight power boost of a 9×18 over a 32, I'll take one!
makes the makarov look like a space ship
It is a basically a Makarov?
@@HighSpeedNoDrag not even close it's more browning
@@pycJIaH77 Belgium Browning? Hardly.
@@HighSpeedNoDrag fn 1910
@Sunamer Z I would never Dare to take apart the Browning Trigger assembly as it is so intricate and an engineering masterpiece.
I'm late for this video, but one thing that gun has similarities with is Zastava's M70 7.65mm pistol.
Says 7.62 on slide
What it fires: *.32 ACP*
*Brain usage:* *100%*
Abu_Belarus the person who designed this gun probably got sent to the firing wall after.
@PRESIDENT TRUMP !!! no you don't lol
@@msbhicks8358 And survived after each man's gun misfired.
At Last! An individual that appreciates the merits of a "Precision Plastic Disassembly Tool" as much as I do!! Footnote: At times, it also masquerades as a Precision Plastic ASSEMBLY Tool.
The Assembly of that pistol oddly reminds me of a lot of airsoft pistols that I've owned
people claim the communists have no sense of style but that nice molded star is pretty sharp.
Let's conspire to make a forged NK pistol, model 72 - I'm sure Ian could suggest a viable list of attributes and several American machinists and gunsmiths could finish a prototype - only need a dozen or so to get the money back from auction houses in 5 to 7 countries. Just need to learn enough Korean writing to avoid labeling it, "Kimings, Kimings, Kimings"
Hahaha "Patent Patent Brevit Brevit Brevit"
"Perhaps your with the C.I.A., and would like to add this gun to your collection?" Funny, but I bet they've got a couple.
Hah, worth a chuckle at least
Don't know why but at first I thought it looked a bit more like a Remington Model 51 than a Mak but I think my perception of the proportions were just off. It def looks more like a Makarov.
+mike sanders I had the same initial impression. Something about the contour of the area where the frame tapers off into the slide in front.
The Baek Du San is the North Korean version of the CZ-75
For the 7.62 caliber, I suspect it might be correct if it were a copy or import of the Chinese Type 1964 pistol ammunition, which looks a lot like the 7.65, but is 7.62. The type 64 looks kind of like a PPK on the outside, but has guts that are more like a Markrov.
Ian-Great video, as always. Will you ever do a video on the TT-33? The Tok has always been near and dear to my heart and I'd love to see an in depth review of this not forgotten weapon. I am especially interested in it's ammo evolution from the 7.63 Mauser and widespread use as subgun ammunition after WWII-John in Texas
What a weird single action Makarov.
Woah, how did this get here
Kim Jong Un's sister would whoop yo ass for that gun.......
Seriously, I was expecting a sharpened rock or a knock off Jennings.
Seems to look and function a lot like the Mauser HSc.
To my eye externally It looked like a single action version of a Makarov, I didn't expect the barrel in the slide!
How did this gun fail to sell at the auction?!. i guess the starting price was too steep?. i would have definitely wanted to buy it if guns was my thing
I wish we could get the back story on that pistol...
Something I've never understood about countries with limited technology in the modern era: if you're going to produce a semi-auto pistol which only has a six or seven round capacity, why not just make revolvers? The only reason I can think of is that auto cartridges are much more common.
Who else is seeing this after hearing about Kim Jong Un’s botched heart surgery
Yeah blame it on the algorithm , DAMN YOU TH-cam!
Or
Blame it on the booze
Got you feeling loose
Blame it on 'tron
Got you in the zone
Blame it on the a a a a a alcohol
Blame it on the a a a a a a alcohol
Till this day there is probably an N-K officer walking around with a wooden pistol blackened with shoe pollish because he does not dare to report the gun missing.
Forget the gun, how much for that disassembly tool??
It's a bic pen cap...
$20 and it's yours.
Definitely a rare gun to find... hell I searched up quite a large amount of South Korean internet sites to figure out the history of it and I was not able to get any out of... one thing I found is that type 70 is based on FN M1910 pistol... and that is pretty much it. No history why it was made, used by who (eg. North korean spies used type 66 and 68 when they infiltrated South Korea in 1960's), and amount of distributions among the army.
I bet even after Korea is united together, the value of the gun will be high since the South Korean government would not tolerate any materialistic existence in North Korean era.(to prevent from people glorifying and worshipping Kim family) Good job on getting hands on the gun !
Soon there will be tons of slightly radioactive pistols for purchase.
+ 5 poison damage.
The reason that North Korea copied Browing M1900 is, that this gun played an important role in the history of East Asia nations, and was famous for its high quality and service behaviors. When those partisans who used this "good weapon" gripped power later, it's no strange that they wanted every pistol to be as good as this one.
The similar case happened in China, too. in 1980, factories produced a "type 80" full-auto pistol based on the originial concept of Mauser M1932, the full-auto variant of C96
Nort korea would actually probably benefit from some firearm exporting.
Kyle Hall with the embargoes on north korea I doubt that would be possible
they export jets in the black market I think they are fine
Wouldn’t help them a bit. Embargoes.
well this gun is made from two stolen gun designs so they cant sell it
I seriously laughed out loud when you described the magazine and slide release...LMAO!
I have another possibility for that little spring pin on the breach. It might be to index the barrel when the slide is closed, by putting a little bit of pressure to push it forward.
If it works it might mean that you can cut corners on the machining of the slide and barrel, lowering production costs, without hindering the accuracy of the gun.
It is also possible that giving it looser tolerances and having that spring would improve its reliability in dusty/muddy conditions (The AK effect).
XD "The AK effect" XD Proven incorrect by gun Jesus Himself.
This is interesting to see what a relatively low tech country unencumbered by patents can do. I imagine that thing is pretty reliable considering the simplicity. Also, with the locked breach design firing a .32 ACP round I imagine would be very tolerant of poor material quality and bad ammo. Seems like a perfect pistol for North Korea, honestly.
So awesome , Ian!!! Good find , man. Thanks for your awesome work.
Truly surprised it didn't sell. I wonder if they had a high reserve on it.
Put some oil on this pistol. It looks very dry inside.
Thats pretty dang neat! If only that gun could tell its life story! It would be neat to know how it came to be here! Kinda curiously funny,this is the issued gun for high ranking officers yet is so basic and simple and perhaps slightly crude but it looks to be fairly well made. Very curious that they didn't go with a fixed barrel and kept using such a legacy cartridge so long. It would be neat to shoot and a cool piece of militaria to own! Given rare officers guns though, I would much rather have a Russian PSM with aluminum grips, that is a very cool gun! Wonder what the value of this Type 70 is and the PSM.
It shoot pebbles with a rubberband-pully system.
Lil' Kimmie probably has his sheeple convinced that this is the most powerful handgun in the world! 😅
We went for a holiday years ago there, by train from Dandong - notably great beer !
all things considered it looks quite well manufactured. quite interesting that one made it back to north America
Kim Jong Un approved!
Travrinity .. lol , agree
Travrinity First thing Kim Jong Un asked is if he can eat it!
Seems to me to be based more on the FN Model 1910, also designed by John Browning.
Of all people to have one of these is my great uncle he was in North Korea doing some dark ops work in the 50's he came a cross a officer with one of these in his pocket and a type 64 in a shoulder holster and he still has them.
P.S He will not sell those pistols.
I don’t know much about guns, but the internals of this thing look more like a lighter than a dangerous weapon.
Tiny little barrel and very basic.
From now on, I'm calling five pointed stars "North Korean emblems."
Gud job best korea
Ew
Thanks for sharing this one. I'm sure I'll never get a chance to see anything like this one again.
Looks like a Tokarev TT Gun mixed with Pm9
I had M-1911-A1 made by Springfield caliber 9mm parabellum that look like my old Coly M-1911 military caliber .45ACP. I had my gunsmiths went over only my M-1911 Colt and it safe to shoot. The Springfield M-1911A1 look like Colt M-1911 but never test fire for safety due to my gunsmiths in CT pass away and I can not effort to pay for another gunsmiths.