North Korean Type 58 AK

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  • @merlynleger6916
    @merlynleger6916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1388

    Even North Korea can manufacture a better AK than Century Arms

    • @merlynleger6916
      @merlynleger6916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      Hey there’s no greater incentive to do great than a possible execution. Like those Chinese olympians who know anything less than a gold medal is gonna get their family wiped out. Incentive!!

    • @Turalcar
      @Turalcar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@merlynleger6916 Not really. punishment - even a normal one like a fine in a corporate environment often discourages from reporting issues

    • @AString95
      @AString95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Turalcar I think he was kidding.

    • @muffinman3111
      @muffinman3111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      About the same manufacturing capacity but North Korea uses a thing called fear to get good quality rifles

    • @DudeSushisbomb
      @DudeSushisbomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ouch

  • @Tektonikstudios
    @Tektonikstudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +545

    The Maltese Armed Forces still uses the type 58, they were gifted from North Korea to Malta in the 1970's/1980's to help improve relations with the east.

    • @TheOtherOne122
      @TheOtherOne122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      Fascinating trivia. Can only wonder why isolationist North Korea wanted to improve relations with the island nation of Malta

    • @jasonirwin4631
      @jasonirwin4631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      @@TheOtherOne122 before the fall of the soviet union NK was a lot less isolationist.

    • @arjunjmenon
      @arjunjmenon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@TheOtherOne122 indian paramilitaries or police have northkorean and chinese variants in large numbers ! No purchase was ever made but captured from various terror groups . These supposedly came through myanmmar and thai arms dealers .
      Though india was/is close to Soviet union / russia and buy billion dollar worth every year , india never bought aks from them . Still india has tens of thousands of soviet made aks in service .

    • @cortex383
      @cortex383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@TheOtherOne122 Because Malta's part of Europe, but has no outstanding grudges with either the Western or the Eastern blocs, so it has often been used as a go-between. The Cold War was ended in Maltese Territory when Gorbachev and HW Bush met on a ship just off the Maltese coast.

    • @Rondog93
      @Rondog93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@TheOtherOne122 Malta has a reputation for offshore banking.

  • @The10mmcure
    @The10mmcure 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3543

    This thing will sell for thousands of dollars at that auction house as a "Class III machine gun".In Africa or Afghanistan it's probably worth one small goat or a few chickens. That's all I could think through the whole video.

    • @psychologiccallynuts
      @psychologiccallynuts 8 ปีที่แล้ว +495

      They're worth a little more to some african tribes, like 3 cows or something.

    • @The10mmcure
      @The10mmcure 8 ปีที่แล้ว +211

      Watchlist Well yeah,but that's probably the tribes that live the most primitively,you know farther out from the cities.And I've seen some of those cows on Nat Geo,it would take 3 of them to make up one American Angus lol

    • @psychologiccallynuts
      @psychologiccallynuts 8 ปีที่แล้ว +223

      I was wrong, it's more like 6 cows.
      www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/global-arms-trade-africa-and-the-curse-of-the-ak-47-6104458.html

    • @The10mmcure
      @The10mmcure 8 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      It depends on where in Africa though mgafrica.com/article/2014-10-14-if-you-want-to-know-the-real-price-of-an-ak-47-shop-in-africa

    • @The10mmcure
      @The10mmcure 8 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Here's a really good one that was actually a study,if you scroll down there's tables.So we were all right lol www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmin/docs/A-Yearbook/2007/en/full/Small-Arms-Survey-2007-Chapter-08-EN.pdf

  • @Darkteen75
    @Darkteen75 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1895

    You have really out done yourself here, this is simply one of the greatest firearm and history channel on YT. Imagine if someone gave you a TV show budget, all the crazy firearms you could see. Thank you so much for doing these videos.

    • @SUFHolbek
      @SUFHolbek 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      The channel don't actually own any kinds, as far as I know. They just display them for auction houses.

    • @Darkteen75
      @Darkteen75 8 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Scoldpedia I know, I'm just saying with a bigger budget he could travel to other places and see more unique weapons. In Thailand they have a lot of unique weapons left over from the Vietnam war. Vickers tactical went to Russia and saw some really unique firearms in a museum not even the general public gets to see, pretty sure they would let Ian do the same. The show I'm thinking of are the ones R. Lee Ermey did on the history channel.

    • @TheTooBig
      @TheTooBig 8 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Well his patreon account has already enabled him to travel across the country to cover some exotic weaponry. But agreed, this is very interesting channel

    • @Andy47357
      @Andy47357 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just get him on the outdoors channel so that way shooting usa and midway gun stories have some competition.

    • @sentigalassi3148
      @sentigalassi3148 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah Ian finds all the cool AK47's no one knows about :)

  • @adlerhorst1995
    @adlerhorst1995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    Just imagine how many rare aks may be in Afghanistan or Syria just laying around and in the US are probably worth thousands and thousands of dollars

    • @mrdictator7030
      @mrdictator7030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You have no idea...

    • @bezahltersystemtroll5055
      @bezahltersystemtroll5055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      to be fair, if you would sell all those the price would go down massively.

    • @JohnnyLouisXIX
      @JohnnyLouisXIX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I've seen some pictures of type 1 AKs with slab sided mags in Afghanistan.

    • @Spanishfutbol2010
      @Spanishfutbol2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wait till you see the US weapons they’ve acquired

    • @SpeedyKhaledGD
      @SpeedyKhaledGD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      my dad had an original russian AKM when he served in the SAA (syrian arab army) while most other soldiers had customized AK74M
      i wonder how much it would actually cost

  • @szuzmariacsatkai3496
    @szuzmariacsatkai3496 5 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    I love all the scars and scratches. That gun has seen a lot in its life

  • @TeriyakiBoy
    @TeriyakiBoy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +512

    I wonder how many gigs of memory it would take to store all the knowledge you have in your head about these weapons into a digital format. Great video, thank you!

    • @mattdickson2
      @mattdickson2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      probably a few terabytes

    • @Hortifox_the_gardener
      @Hortifox_the_gardener 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Depending on the format I assume one could compress it to a few dozens of megabytes in pure text ;-)
      I mean... our memory isn't text at all but you could "translate" it to text.

    • @Nikotheleepic
      @Nikotheleepic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Images complex causal action sequences and whole concepts encoded on a physics framework as a few mgs huh

    • @MadComMar
      @MadComMar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Imagine taking all that knowledge, converting it to a text file and then converting that file to an image. Visual knowledge.

    • @nukeofficial1103
      @nukeofficial1103 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Considering it'd probably be a text file, not as much as you might expect.

  • @Tripp426
    @Tripp426 7 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Personally, I love how the wood is in really rough shape. It really adds character to the rifle. Who knows how much abuse it's seen in its lifetime.

    • @klimaxkid
      @klimaxkid ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially in the korean war

  • @wilhufftarkin8543
    @wilhufftarkin8543 5 ปีที่แล้ว +529

    "Sold for $54,625"
    Wat?

    • @myes344
      @myes344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Worst investment

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      Carolus Magnus 1: It’s full auto, which means more money
      2: It’s a rare variant in a popular market, which means more money.

    • @Slideyslide
      @Slideyslide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That’s crazy. I would love to own it but I don’t think I could pay more than 5k myself.

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Michael James You’d he lucky to find any full auto AK for $5K

    • @HughesEnterprises
      @HughesEnterprises 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Carolus Magnus Any fully transferable non-parts-kit AK is going to bring minimum $30,000. Add to that a known Vietnam era bring back and be one of maybe 10 of the variant in the country brings the extra $20,000. There will never be any more transferable machine guns for civilian ownership so if you want one you have to pay. It’s an investment or store of wealth like a classic car or airplane but with lower maintenance cost and more fun than a kilo and a half of gold.

  • @rainensierra5258
    @rainensierra5258 8 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    ㄹㅕㄴ is 연발 = Auto
    ㄷ ㅏㄴ is 단발 = Semiauto

    • @thedarksideofthetube1857
      @thedarksideofthetube1857 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      జ్ఞా

    • @porkyp1845
      @porkyp1845 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    • @ChoboUnjeon
      @ChoboUnjeon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      북한은 련발이라고 쓰네요 남한은 자동이라고 쓰는데

    • @myes344
      @myes344 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ↪🈲🈶💱

    • @heroturbo76
      @heroturbo76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ChoboUnjeon​​K2에도 연발이라고 되어있습니다

  • @MrMd5555
    @MrMd5555 8 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    some people say kalashnikov rifles are ugly, I've always loved everything about them, including the looks, especially that battle worn look. I'm a sucker for purchasing kalashnikovas of any kind but this one is just a tad out of my price range!! beautiful rifle though

    • @Davidautofull
      @Davidautofull 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      go to Stermgewehr dot com then NFA guns. they will have a pretty full auto AK for you maybe , MAYBE 15 to 20 grand. just depends, could be less. but after the election and Trump is not the winner? you will never get one legally.

    • @SilverStarHeggisist
      @SilverStarHeggisist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Davidautofull hey... I'm from the future... Trump won

    • @MrMd5555
      @MrMd5555 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      SilverStar Heggisist whhaaat..how do you know Trump won? what are you, one of those phsycics or something

    • @koleyo9072
      @koleyo9072 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Rip he was right

    • @ivankukov5884
      @ivankukov5884 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree but I personally like the look of the AKs

  • @RichardJohnson_dydx
    @RichardJohnson_dydx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Holy shit. This is one of the most beautiful weathered rifles I've ever seen

  • @kurtbergh
    @kurtbergh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +377

    It was kinda weird to watch a video from Ian and actually think ''Hey, l know how that gun disassembles''.

  • @burntburgers1946
    @burntburgers1946 8 ปีที่แล้ว +857

    Will Magpul furniture fit on this

    • @ToastytheG
      @ToastytheG 8 ปีที่แล้ว +278

      no but SpongeBob tape and a red dot will make it look oper8tor af

    • @rileypowell5354
      @rileypowell5354 8 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      not knowing what proletariat means.

    • @D8W2P4
      @D8W2P4 8 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Knowing what it means makes you well read and erudite... for a communist.

    • @fw870
      @fw870 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Maybe zhukov for yugo cant fit on this.

    • @blackwoodsecurity531
      @blackwoodsecurity531 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      D8W2P4 lol

  • @nevabrood
    @nevabrood 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had the same rifle, while serving in the army. I am from East Europe, ours had markings for our country, tho. You brought memories... It is really heavy rifle and one must take some time to get used to it.

  • @sunjun618
    @sunjun618 8 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    KOREAN-> (ㄹㄴ) 7592
    려ㄴ = 련 = AUTO
    다ㄴ= 단 = SEMI

    • @hyunio
      @hyunio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Stupid question... if this was in South Korea would 련 be spilled 연? I ask because sometimes I see words that use ㅇ in South Korea use ㄹ in North Korea.
      Here's a Spongebob though... 뮤

    • @swpetaly
      @swpetaly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hyunio ​ @Hyun Seo Because in South Korea, When 'ㄹ' come first in word, 'ㄹ' change 'ㅇ'. It's a part of South Korea grammer rules.

    • @hyunio
      @hyunio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@swpetaly thank you very much. My Korean is 배리배리 러스티!

    • @hyunio
      @hyunio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @YANEZA Luis Venancio Yee + on say those two fast

    • @leekyungmin-t6u
      @leekyungmin-t6u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @YANEZA Luis Venancio ryuun/dann

  • @salokin3087
    @salokin3087 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great work Ian, love your stuff and how soft spoken you are with such deadly tools.

  • @globalautobahn1132
    @globalautobahn1132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Now this is cool! I don’t care too much if it’s full auto or semi, but the fact that you have something so rare from North Korea in your collection would be very interesting!

  • @AnZ17N
    @AnZ17N 8 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    The serial number does not start with "2L". It is, as you pointed out, the Korean letters ㄹ and ㄴ. The serial number is ㄹㄴ7952.
    And it looks like there's the letter ㅍ off to the side.

    • @Baegitte
      @Baegitte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AnZ17N i always wondered if some people get Chinese characters tattooed on them because some of the characters look like English...

    • @Dunkelzeitgeist
      @Dunkelzeitgeist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Baegitte Korean* not Chinese. Completely different

    • @Baegitte
      @Baegitte 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dunkelzeitgeist I know. But most people who get East Asian tattoos choose Chinese characters, not Korean or Japanese.

    • @amd6474
      @amd6474 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Baegitte 'most people' term depends on who is talking

    • @WynnofThule
      @WynnofThule 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DunkelzeitgeistYeah, Hangul is unique to Korean (and a really cool script in it's own right). But Korean also sometimes uses Chinese characters called hanja.

  • @WoobooRidesAgain
    @WoobooRidesAgain 8 ปีที่แล้ว +475

    What few know about this particular rifle is that it wasn't captured during the Vietnam War, but defected to the West after getting caught visiting Tokyo Disneyland.

    • @SayNoToDemocide1
      @SayNoToDemocide1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You're joking, right? Because no way can you take something like this into Japan without it getting confiscated by law enforcement and whoever is caught bringing it in getting arrested, as that this is a prohibited weapon, only available to military, law enforcement, research institutions (I think) and maybe ship security guards (I read that Japan permits ship crews traveling through certain areas to carry rifles to combat piracy).

    • @WoobooRidesAgain
      @WoobooRidesAgain 8 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      SayNoTo Democide For those of you who don't want the joke spoiled (as funny or unfunny as it may be), read no further than this line. But if you want to learn a little bit more about Best Korea, go on ahead.
      The gag was that one of Kim Jong-il's sons (Kim Jong-nam) made a huge row internationally when Japanese authorities caught him using a fake passport with the intention of sneaking into Tokyo Disneyland. It is a big reason why his little (half)brother is now running the whole freakshow.
      Eh, they can't all be zingers.

    • @SayNoToDemocide1
      @SayNoToDemocide1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      WoobooRidesAgain Thanks for your answer. And I heard that Kim Jong Nam tried to go to Disneyland Tokyo.

    • @w0rloko
      @w0rloko 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      SayNoTo Democide that is exactly what the comment above said??

    • @screamsinrussian5773
      @screamsinrussian5773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@w0rloko not for him I guess

  • @JoeyP322
    @JoeyP322 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video! The history and your knowledge is admirable to say the least... Someone mentioned it a few comments down, you deserve your own TV show. They can cancel out one of the dozens of the fix em up car shows and give you a chance... I know they're not 'forgotten' so to speak, but it would be interesting if you did pieces in firearms that are no longer imported, like Ploytech, or FEG AKs... Things like that. Thanks again.

  • @곰돌슨
    @곰돌슨 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The serial number, ㄹㄴ 7952, the first two characters are Korean characters. At least the first character ㄹ, I'm sure it is. There is a number 2 on the last digit of the serial number, and that 2 looks different from the first character ㄹ. ㄹ is simply the 4th consonant character in the Korean letter system that pronounces like L or R in Roman alphabet.
    The system is called 한글(HanGeul) and was independently developed in the 15th century by a king named 세종. It is now used in both north and south Korea, and is also exported to many tribes in Indonesia and Africa which don't have their own writing systems for their languages.
    This system really does write sounds well, and is also very easy to learn. Smart foreign people even challenge mastering the writing system within one day. (And some of them actually make it.)
    He and his son(the next king) 문종 were also two greatest military technicians who developed many medieval firearms like 화차(Hwacha) which is popular in the western world as Korean multiple rocket launching system. Look at my profile photo. That's Hwacha. Search the kings' names if interested in early gunpowder-based rockets, bombs, guns in the far East.

    • @alexlucente447
      @alexlucente447 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You deserve more likes for this comment.

  • @DGFishRfine1
    @DGFishRfine1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    A really cool piece of history... Imagine how cheap it was to manufacture though!
    $54,000 for something which probably cost the modern equivalent of $10 to build 😬

  • @KurtOnoIR
    @KurtOnoIR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how you have all the flags in the thumb for your videos, it makes it easy to quickly scroll down the page and find things you didn't finish watch or are looking for.👍

  • @THEESVN
    @THEESVN 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Stamped AK Type 1 weight 4.45 kg
    Milled AK Type 2 and 3 weight 4.3 kg
    Stamped AKM weight 3.3 kg
    i took those information from Drs Cor Roodhorst's book. Soviet MOD demanded the gun to weight about than 4kg, because they think that a lighter gun would be uncontrollable in full auto. in 1955 they changed their doctrine, that was when the new assault rifle program was started, three designer participated: Kalashnikov(A-55 and RP-55), Korobov(TKB-517 and TKB-516) and Konstantinov(2B-A-45 and 2B-P-40). Soviet MOD demanded a light weight avtomat and a LMG version of that avtomat. In the end, Kalashnikov won, A-55 became the AKM, RP-55 became the RPK.

  • @thatguyoverthere9634
    @thatguyoverthere9634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Some say that over three years later, the buyer is still waiting on the ATF to get back to him about the transfer.

  • @corporalkang-in-chan7926
    @corporalkang-in-chan7926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Type 58 and K2 deawoo are assault rifles that two North and South Korea soldiers use patrol along a barbed wire fence . Facing each other on the 38th parallel DMZ for almost a decade

    • @amd6474
      @amd6474 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      only a decade?
      no, five decades.

  • @asherjk
    @asherjk 8 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Damn it, Ian. I was about to go to bed.

  • @rajath275
    @rajath275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This video felt like it’s lasted just a couple of minutes. Damn this was satisfying

  • @heinrichakiyama227
    @heinrichakiyama227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I live in Vietnam and when i have my Military training, i saw one of these korean’s AK still served in the Army till these day

  • @NorthKoreaUncovered
    @NorthKoreaUncovered 8 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    Also just a helpful hint. The serial number doesn't say 2L, it's the hangul characters "ㄹ" which is pronounced as "Rieul", and "ㄴ" which is pronounced as "Nieun".
    On the selector markings, "례" is prounounced as "Rae" and "대" which is "Dae"
    :D

    • @memepolice7964
      @memepolice7964 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      First syllable isn't 레 it's 례 or "Rye" for 련발 (표준어: 연발) and second one isn't 데 but 대 (단발) which is pronounced the same.

    • @NorthKoreaUncovered
      @NorthKoreaUncovered 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meme Lord
      난 한국인 있은 이상, 한국말이 나는 너보다 잘했어. 왜국인.

    • @memepolice7964
      @memepolice7964 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jessie Edsell Doesn't seem like it

    • @memepolice7964
      @memepolice7964 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If there's a 외국인* here, it's you. 더 열심히 공부하라. 안 이해가 뻔했어.

    • @NorthKoreaUncovered
      @NorthKoreaUncovered 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meme Lord 철자를 다르게 쓰는 방언도 많고 말하는 방식에도 여러 차이가 있어 난 원어민이고 영어는 내 모국어이니까 날 고치지려고 노력하지 마세요.

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Somebody with a lot of money is going to have an awesome conversation piece. 😀

  • @CommaV9414
    @CommaV9414 8 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Has anyone seen those pictures of North Korean Ak 74 with helical magazines. Is that really possible or is it an attempt to make themselves seem more advanced than they are?
    m.imgur.com/69zPSN2?r

    • @TroopperFoFo
      @TroopperFoFo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      North Korea will make all sorts of weird things trying to Modernize without really modernizing. Look at their tanks for example they mounted Strela manpads on them for some reason.

    • @TheJamminjon
      @TheJamminjon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Looks like a really crude version of the Russian Bizon submachine gun

    • @mattgreen5510
      @mattgreen5510 8 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I've never seen anything like that before but that's probably just north Korea trying to look more advanced then they actually are

    • @TroopperFoFo
      @TroopperFoFo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      ***** North Korea has Tractors with MLRS tubes. They have the weirdest military gear.

    • @ravvaktheannihilator69
      @ravvaktheannihilator69 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I bet that is possible, but you never know with North Korea. There are similar types of magazines on the market today, so I wouldn't doubt it working on a gun.

  • @myes344
    @myes344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the gun gloriously leader kim chi un empty entire clip and sprayed all bulleyes. The bullets also reloaded themself in new brass then reloaded into the ak57.

  • @Jason-fm4my
    @Jason-fm4my 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Ian, what you described as 2L in the serial number at 5:15 is translated as the letters RN in Korean Hangul. Presumably short for Russian. The Korean word for Russian is essentially a Korean Loanword. Google translate has it as pronounced "leosiain". I know you have its provenance well in hand, but I thought you might find the extra evidence of interest.

  •  8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I once saw one of these for sale in Sweden :D

    •  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** I have 2 machineguns myself, 3 AR15:s 8 suppressors Aks etc etc. Socialist paradise Sweden has better gun laws than many parts of the US. They are shit atm though.

  • @ShaddySoldier
    @ShaddySoldier 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    *Best Korean type 58 AK

  • @GOREilla.
    @GOREilla. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's never enough talking about historical AKs! Cheers, Ian.

  • @clawrence034
    @clawrence034 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hey Ian, love your insight into the production of these weapons. I'd be really interested to hear your insight into the design and manufacture of other objects someday. Say an Eames fibreglass chair or the plywood splint they made for the US army.

  • @toorayarrav2444
    @toorayarrav2444 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    your videos are a treat, sir. a treat. as in like, I feel spoiled now. because I got to see all of this beauty, so thankyou, sir.

  • @Ws_minion
    @Ws_minion 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    think I'm going to have to come back to this video every now and then, the humour is truely Seoul-less...
    I'll see myself out.

  • @alanalslw3528
    @alanalslw3528 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your vids are very relaxing

  • @jimdavis6519
    @jimdavis6519 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this channel, I find it super relaxing, no offense but it reminds me of the show on pbs where the guy paints landscapes, anyway thanks

  • @jimjungle1397
    @jimjungle1397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Korea also made milled receiver RPK's, from around 1964 to 1975.

  • @andrewbunner3591
    @andrewbunner3591 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Damn that Type 58 looks like it's seen a lot.

    • @tomsoki5738
      @tomsoki5738 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has killed many political prisoners, and some innocent civilians along the way

    • @andrewbunner3591
      @andrewbunner3591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomsoki5738 damn that's dark

    • @shadowslayer9988
      @shadowslayer9988 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@tomsoki5738Proof or just you unverified opinion.

    • @shadowslayer9988
      @shadowslayer9988 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@andrewbunner3591He has no proof so take it with a grain of salt.

    • @andrewbunner3591
      @andrewbunner3591 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shadowslayer9988 I mean, it's pretty likely that it has

  • @RedbudWorkshopProductions
    @RedbudWorkshopProductions ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually got to hold one yesterday, it was an underfolder though and stamped. But it was incredible.

  • @bobross8424
    @bobross8424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "The only AK that will ever jam"

    • @M-Maxentius
      @M-Maxentius 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      AK 47 are shit, the ak74 is much better

    • @TreacherousFennec
      @TreacherousFennec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's amd-63

    • @adderallzx7324
      @adderallzx7324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      99% of the time the AK that's considered to never jam or anything is the AK-M or AK-74

    • @bobthebuilder1360
      @bobthebuilder1360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @JGD when u get that black market ak that has been in 3 wars killed hundreds of people been dropped thousands of times and only cost 200 bucks

  • @umusuuk
    @umusuuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the auction link is nice, but I prefer to get my North Korean AK's the old school way, from a crate in a dimly lit harbour warehouse from a guy called Ivan.

    • @richardphilpott1225
      @richardphilpott1225 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ivan is currently in Newark, he wants you to give him a call.

  • @dayofmone
    @dayofmone 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Is that bullet next to the auction house data shield for a Maxim Pom-Pom 37mm MG?

  • @JackDo-lu8ux
    @JackDo-lu8ux 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well...I am sorry to point it out Ian but the 'L' character on the serial number seems to be a Korean alphabet known as 'ㄴ', shown in 5:07. The two markings on the receiver stand for '련발' - Korean for full auto, and '단발' - semi auto, respectively. I - even a South Korean - have never come across a North Korean AK, most likely because if they were even captured, they would have been sent to military training centers or de-milled and put in museums. Thank you for showcasing this very rare gem!Jack the Gun/History nut.

  • @unclesalty2010788
    @unclesalty2010788 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    How many North Korean weapons have you come across?

  • @pbr-streetgang
    @pbr-streetgang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the vid sir.

  • @FreeForAllFreak
    @FreeForAllFreak 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The video is 9:22 long and is about an AK, 922r compliant... coincidence, i think not ;)

  • @Lee1enfield
    @Lee1enfield 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i don't know how you do it but i start to have curiosity about any gun and you make a video about it. You are amazing!

  • @imwalkenhere2748
    @imwalkenhere2748 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    “Not a lot of stuff from North Korea has made it to the United States”
    Mostly because they haven’t figured out how to get it here by way of ballistic missile

  • @tnreprasentog7769
    @tnreprasentog7769 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly I think it's pretty cool that it has a different bolt in it then the original because that means the original soldier that had this changed the bolt out to a different one because it was broken or something... Adds to the story ya know

  • @lerch400block
    @lerch400block 8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Rob Ski is currently bidding. jk

    • @lv2943
      @lv2943 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      5000 round test of Nork AK when?

    • @waking00one
      @waking00one 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are AKs with breasts now?

    • @strongforce8466
      @strongforce8466 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lmfao ! good ol' Rob ski :D

  • @metalman6708
    @metalman6708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man milling that thing out of a block of steel would be some serious machine work

  • @rahbaralhaq
    @rahbaralhaq 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "The name is Kim Jong and I got the license to ill".....

    • @charlesharper2357
      @charlesharper2357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My favorite Kim Jung IL joke was on the day he died.
      A comedian newscaster was doing his fake newscast that showed a picture of Kim Jung IL to which he said:
      "Kim Jung IL?
      No, Kim Jung dead"...

  • @babass71620
    @babass71620 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    50000 ? well my encyclopedia says it's more like 800000 pieces that were produced by the Jyn Chul arsenal, that seems logical since the north korean use it for their military even to this day. The type 68 (AKM) seems even more rare in their military

  • @equiliz9683
    @equiliz9683 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks gun Jesus.

  • @DKKim-vs7po
    @DKKim-vs7po 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here are the translations of the letters beside the selector.
    'ㄹㅕㄴ' = '련' it's abbreviation for '련발' and it means automatic.
    'ㄷㅏㄴ' = '단' it's abbreviation for '단발' and it means semi-automatic.
    And I think those first and second letters in serial number aren't 2 and L.
    I think those are Korean characters 'ㄹ' and 'ㄴ'

  • @michaelrunde4262
    @michaelrunde4262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how the North Korean national sign is almost a pentagram... makes you wonder about them... 😂

    • @garrick3727
      @garrick3727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Evil western propaganda. It is like cute starfish, like in Spongebob, our glorious leader's favorite show.

  • @wunderjager0005
    @wunderjager0005 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To anyone who's new... the characters on the receiver was ㄹㄴ7952 (L/R N 7952) and the other side is 련 단 which doesn't seem to have a solid translation on my behalf

  • @James-sz5bi
    @James-sz5bi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "... and they would use western type numbers for ..."
    Those "western type numbers" you speak of are called "arabic numerals", but probaby originated in India.

    • @md_vandenberg
      @md_vandenberg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those numerals were ultimately adopted by the West. Ian was technically correct.

    • @yyeezyy630
      @yyeezyy630 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      James wrong western numbers are different then Arabic numbers western numbers were based on Arabic numbers but there are differences a simple google search would have taught you that

  • @drmaudio
    @drmaudio 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, I saw a forgotten weapons video and clicked on it, then realized that I saw it over at full30, but here it is, still playing.

  • @marmolejo99
    @marmolejo99 8 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    kim jong un must be one of the dislikes.

    • @diktatoralexander88
      @diktatoralexander88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No he showed it to his people, saying "LOOK at American pig GLAMOUR over Superior craftsmanship of perfect rifle made by our leader!"

  • @astragreen
    @astragreen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the way he says if you want one of these, you can bid at the auction, you'd think he was talking about a candy bar, your darn right I want one, perhaps the NFA help me out with that one!

  • @greavous93
    @greavous93 8 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    I want to see a review on the North Korean anti aircraft gun that you do political house cleaning with. If you get a chance...

    • @MrBioniclefan1
      @MrBioniclefan1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol what

    • @piRaufasertapete
      @piRaufasertapete 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      well that anti aircraft gun usage for executions is just a myth
      The news headline was just copy and paste by some "journalists"

    • @eklypse13
      @eklypse13 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ^ video is not from North Korea

    • @piRaufasertapete
      @piRaufasertapete 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh there it is. I therefore declare my former statement not valid

    • @mortisCZ
      @mortisCZ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh gosh, that's gross but at least it's fast way to go.

  • @ChewbacaTW
    @ChewbacaTW 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like a very similar configuration to the old bulgarian milled AKs. Thanks for the vid Ian.

  • @vidyagaemer350
    @vidyagaemer350 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very cool! Would love to know what it ends up selling for.

    • @Davidautofull
      @Davidautofull 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      stand by. there will be a summary after the auction.

  • @Snipurss
    @Snipurss 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the way the wood looks compared to your typical AK

  • @bloodydavid
    @bloodydavid 8 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    so, how did this gun come to the US ?
    Great video like always

    • @TheNavyShark
      @TheNavyShark 8 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Vietnam bring back.

    • @HockeyCrab
      @HockeyCrab 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Whoever brought this to the us was a fortunate one
      get it?

    • @fireemblemistrash75
      @fireemblemistrash75 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      HockeyCrab No, but I'll give ya a like anyway.

    • @patmac7139
      @patmac7139 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      fortunate son**

    • @sjoak4084
      @sjoak4084 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ian probably got it from a NK soldier in exchange for a bag of chips and a soda.

  • @nicholasplesko533
    @nicholasplesko533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve got an original North Korean turd, that was smuggled out amongst a box of type 58 AKs. Bidding starts at $25,000. This could be the legendary turd from then President, Kim Il-Sung.

  • @ultrahevybeat
    @ultrahevybeat 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    well the real name is democratic peoples republic of Korea or DPRK.

    • @ultrahevybeat
      @ultrahevybeat 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      shit i just saw what i said below my comment nvm

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  8 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      Three lies in four words!

    • @owenstockwood5040
      @owenstockwood5040 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But they do not. The only vote is held by Kim Jong Un!

    • @OnlyHereForCake
      @OnlyHereForCake 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Even the 4th word is only half truth

    • @stianberg5645
      @stianberg5645 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know what you mean, and you are formally right. If I didn't sit here trying to avoid important work I would leave you without chipping in a argument:
      That is the name they gave themselves. Some countries are not called internationally what they call themselves. Also, when DPRK Korea calls themselves that, it is because they claim that they are Korea, and that there is no south Korea, but a occupied part of their territory. So In a way, DPRK Korea are wrong about themselves. They are in fact North Korea.

  • @stuartp2006
    @stuartp2006 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so strange. I have a replica Kalash (in Australia, doesn't fire, isn't a deac). I appreciate the detail, random spanish manufacturer.

  • @warrenEhartman
    @warrenEhartman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Little known fact: The "58" actually stands for the the era North Korea has been perpetually time locked in for the last half a century.
    #TheMoreYouKnow :)

  • @hankmoody9041
    @hankmoody9041 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel. Weapon's history is awesome

  • @acedia_14
    @acedia_14 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is that ak full auto?

  • @csealand
    @csealand 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ian.

  • @MisterXtreme8798
    @MisterXtreme8798 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did ian ever shot this rifle? forgotten weapons please do a video shooting this north Korean ak

    • @erikm12
      @erikm12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He made a video of him shooting a Chinese Type 56 you can watch instead. It's not going to look any different, I can promise you.

    • @MisterXtreme8798
      @MisterXtreme8798 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the tip!🤗

  • @johngibson2884
    @johngibson2884 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you find any Russian rifles that are graded in Arshins instead of yards or meters , the conversion is one arshin is 28 in or 71.12 cm.
    This is absolutely critical when sighting in at long range

  • @ph0sgene967
    @ph0sgene967 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah the serial number is Korean, "2ㄴ7952 ㅁ"
    In English it's "2N7952 M".
    Next, 레" and "대" which is sort of like "lay"and "dyay". No idea what that means, the Pyongyang dialect it's different from the seoul version i know

  • @Majsji
    @Majsji 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great vid, you've been posting some really nice vids lately Ian.
    Cheers from Czech Republic.

  • @operatorchicken1081
    @operatorchicken1081 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Kim Jong Un called, he asked if he can eat it.

    • @Katarinarabbit
      @Katarinarabbit 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Prince Deus the Vult that was a terrible joke

    • @cavejohnson4306
      @cavejohnson4306 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeep Ford Guy just like his rule

  • @cruxcommissa
    @cruxcommissa 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next to the serial number, the two figures on the left spell 'LN' and the one on the right spells 'P'. The 'selector' markings spell the words 'Lyeon Dan' which means 'training'.

  • @atheniannikitas5912
    @atheniannikitas5912 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would be willing to buy it for a million dollars but I aint got 50 bucks

  • @vl5150
    @vl5150 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video! From what I've read in the past the type I AK had issues with the spot welding of the rails on the inside of the receiver.

  • @MrMisterDerp
    @MrMisterDerp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “The North Koreans didn’t make that many of them”
    They just didn’t have enough metal

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's interesting then that Americans, by all accounts, liked to self-arm with AK-47s, including Type 58s, in Vietnam, when they had guns designed 15 years later, in a first world country, rather than in Stalin era USSR or 50s DPRK.

  • @HaakonTheViking
    @HaakonTheViking 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Holy fuck that thing is crudly made! And I thought the K98 was crude. Norwegian Krag rifles (Except the stomperud) now that is a finely made milsurp. This gun is one ugly beast. (Not saying this is a bad thing)

  • @axeofthenorth1367
    @axeofthenorth1367 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t wait for the auction

  • @brucebaxter6923
    @brucebaxter6923 8 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Arabic numerals, not western.

    • @brucebaxter6923
      @brucebaxter6923 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The west used Roman numerals.

    • @1sanitat1
      @1sanitat1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      West arabic numerals actually, east arabic numerals look quite different

    • @ph0sgene967
      @ph0sgene967 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Those aren't Western, Arabic or even Roman numerals. The serial number is using Korean characters, ㅁ or ㅍ. Which would be M and P respectively.. Why the FUCK would you think north Koreans would want to use English, Roman, or anything other than Korean?
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

    • @brucebaxter6923
      @brucebaxter6923 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wherever they came from, the numbering system is called Arabic numerals and the judaeo Christian world (the west) used Roman numerals.
      Labels are just labels.

    • @ph0sgene967
      @ph0sgene967 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      RonJohn63 I thought he meant the "ㅍ" that looks like a roman numeral, not the digits.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_numerals
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Korean_vocabulary

  • @bilbo_gamers6417
    @bilbo_gamers6417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's like if the Khyber Pass had high-quality machining capabilities

  • @kellanfeng
    @kellanfeng 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the reason why guerrilla forces love to use the Ak-47 is because they are easy to use, reliable and has very effective shooting

  • @holyordersoftheemperorsinq246
    @holyordersoftheemperorsinq246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually the classification does not list the first Kalashnikov rifle as an AK-47, only as an AK (the "47" being an addition made by the popular culture). So the series goes as follows: AK, AKM, AK-74 (yes, this time the number is an actual part of the name, which is used alongside with the GRAU index 6P20), AK-103, 107, AK-12.

    • @maestrozero117
      @maestrozero117 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless a state lists "AK47 TYPE" and then it means that action and that caliber.

  • @TheGuy030770
    @TheGuy030770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seen a Noth Korean stamped version in Ramadi, Iraq 2004.

  • @West_Coast_Mainline
    @West_Coast_Mainline 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t need it
    I don’t need it
    I NEED IT

  • @LeoH3L1
    @LeoH3L1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder how many copies of the AK there are compared to genuine articles.

  • @peterschutler7067
    @peterschutler7067 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy your videos, thanks!