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2015 Mustang GT with Procharger P1x SHOCKS us on the Dyno!!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ม.ค. 2019
- Nevin recently brought us his 2015 Mustang GT featuring a Procharger P1x running on E85 with a return style fuel system for a full dyno tune. Although we tune a lot of S550 Mustangs on E85, this one even surprised us with the power it laid down!!
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I love the pro charger I like the fact that you don't have to remove the tower brace and you don't need lowering mounts.
and they offer a loud or quiet blower. Plus you power delivery is smother and more manageable.
excellent guys!
This is flat out nuts for it to be the smallest blower! Seeing stuff like this makes me so much more glad I went with PBD. Keep killing it guys!!
These coyotes are Killin the competition.
Damn, that's amazing! You guys definitely know your stuff. How has this channel not exploded?
Thank You! We only recently started trying here on You Tube. Never was enough time. Hopefully that's what 2019 is all about!
@@PalmBeachDyno ,
Does PBD does blower installations or just dyno tuning ?
If you don't do installs..... which shop in Palm Beach or Broward do you recommend ?
Keep up the great work. I liked the GT500 vs the 911 Twin Turbo video recently posted. 👍 😎 🏁
Ken truly has his shit together, well done amigo.....
That power right there will hurt some feelings on the street from a roll! Awesome car, awesome #'s. Can you please do some comparisons between other blowers with the same bolt ons please
A rooster wont sing ever more clear. Making perfect sense as always. That line graph shows the dedication and attention to detail that goes with work. Commendable results of dedicated hard work.
The prochargef angles of this video are phenomenal. Amazing work guys.
Such a clean car
Was it just me or did that inlet tube swell under boost?
It looked like it started to get a fatty to me lol.
every angle...swelllllssss brrrrooooooo
Mmmmmmm stock 5.0 bro so yeah it will
I've seen them poop loose from the clamp on these centrifugals.
@@johnrunion7258 Has nothing to do with centi style blower turbo cars and pop charge pipes to. More to do with bad clamps aka worm clamps. Obviously twin screw roots don't have this problem because none of the pipes are under boost.
That's great power from a P-1X on E85. I can only imagine what a D-1X would put down on the dyno.
Not all that much more. It's little over 100hp more. This may not even be maxed out yet. With a small pulley this will make more boost if they're running the either the factory 6.78 balancer or the ATI coyote 20% 7.88 balancer. Depending on the pulleys and engine RPM the P1X has a max impeller rpm of 65,000.
If you want more power over this jump up to the F1 series.
D1 would be a good idea if your running in the NMRA and you have to use approved supercharger for a class. You can pick between the P1X and the D1X so then you would want the D1X.
Great video here. Made really good power. Not bad to have 1000bhp from a P series supercharger.
I would definitely go with a f1c or f1r. I'm running a procharger f1r on a 2011 mustang and the car makes over 900 rwhp on 93 octane. The torque is in the low 700's on 93 octane. Gotta love the sound of the big red blowoff valve.
@@waynebollentin989 An extra 100+ rwhp is quite a bit more power considering the difference in price between P-1X and D-1X head units.
If it only makes about 100 more it's not worth it for reasons I explained for me. People are free to do whatever. I rather jump up to the F series where I have more room to grow. Spending the extra money for that unit isn't worth it for me unless it's for drag racing in a class that has rules like in the NMRA
@@waynebollentin989 Can't be a sleeper car with the F series head units, because they only come with straight cut gears. A D-1X would increase the HP/TQ gap even more between itself and P-1X on E-85/Race fuel. It's only a couple hundred bucks between the P-1X and D-1X head units.
Damn these coyotes are absolutely beastly...from a GM guy.
Awesome tuning! I can’t wait to bring mine!
Wow very nice,some good info, he's a happy camper,beautiful car.
Wow, solid graph!!!
you can watch the supercharger output shaft walk out about a ribs width at 4:26. looks like they still use those wave spring washers between the bearing and the case. I kept throwing belts years ago because of this and doubled up the washer to stop it. Procharger actually makes a solid shim for the d1sc. Don't know about the p1x.
I think my neighbor just did this to his mustang gt and it sound awesome
Did anyone else notice the pulled moving outwards on the blower at the 4:30 mark? Not sure if that’s normal but damn it definitely moved out.
This car is amazing !
Music to my ears that mustang is nasty hellcat killer
The coyote 5.0 is just fucking insane
Thats all
These numbers 20 years ago were the realm of the pro5.0 class of anyone remembers that
Nice job! I wish we had E85 locally here in Brunswick GA.
sirnate54 there is some off exit 29.
Great videos Ken.
Anyone else see that flame @7:20? Ha
Damn, very impressive!
Just got the same wheels for mine but in bronze :p
DSaw78 what wheels are those
@@chokobass225 P51's
That’s a beautiful mustang!
PBD, you guys should have a roll race with p1x, vmp, paxton and whipple and lets see what setup is king. I know dig racing is different but, to prevent parts from breaking Roll Racing would probably be best.
We will leave that sort of stuff up to our customers to do. I notice you didn't mention turbos...lol
@@PalmBeachDyno yeah... there is a reason why, we all know that turbos are more Superior to all other 😄. It would be fun to see what setup wins.
@@coyoteslugger3936 turbo is def bad ass...but rent out an air strip im down :).
@@coyoteslugger3936 superior in all ways besides cost. It almost double the cost to do a turbo system right. Not to mention the extra hours of install and modification over superchargers.
@@csr801996 my take on all this is...im pretty much tapped out on stock internals; so turbo wasnt needed. And i love how the car drives and how the power builds; I wouldn't change a thing. The @Palm Beach Dyno tuning is magic!
should the intake tube just before the throttle body expand like that? wow I know it's pressurized, but damn, that thing gained quite a bit in circumference.
That stangs looks and sounds great.
1070 to the fucking crank man?!?! wholly shit!!!... I dont even like mustangs but @Itsjusta6 and this mustang are fucking nuts!!!!!!!!!!!
lol.... 10psi so I can get a good race :)
Yeah good stuff. Also a pressure regulator on boost gauge for rides. Yeah just 10psi lol
Question. I'm a hinds v6 guy and we have rotrex as our option but it's a centrifugal nevertheless. Would adding an aggressive cam hurt or help a centri set up? We're looking at boost power vs lift and duration power now.
Look at the end play movement on the pulley on the dyno pull procharger needs to look at that does not look right to me
Definitely a liability there
Can some of you clarify? If it's a Procharger, why do I hear ppl call. It a supercharger? Aren't they different?
Who does these backing tracks? Music is badass
860whp + MT82 = snap crackle break
He needs a stage 3 mt82
a little off topic.. haven't seen any stroker kits for the koyote...do they exsist? these things would make awesome gains with a few more cubes
Not a lot of power down low but with the new A10 it wouldn't take long to put it in the power but the power curve up top ! Trq hardly falls off even at the cut off ???
What size pulley does this car have?
What do 2015 Auto Mustangs with a P1X run in the 1/4 mile? Rough guess 10sec club easy right!?
Great numbers on the P1x hopefully in the future I will buy one of these just to build and have fun with it. But it will be hard to decide what to go with turbo, whipple, etc
Let us know when you are ready and we can make some recommendations
Palm Beach Dyno That’s great thank you
That's fucking impressive
I wonder what the pro charger makes on 93 octane ON A GT350??????????????????????????
was the motor dressed up w any goodies? or was it just a full bolt on?
Holy smokes!!!
Nice power. Sure looks like the blower has some shaft movement?
You’ll be really shocked how long that trans will stop working.
What injectors do you recommend for a mustang GT350 supercharged and how do you determine what size to go with?
Was thinking ID1050 or ID1300????
Depends on what fuel you want to use and how much power you want to make.
Does anyone know what wheels those are on the car? I love them. I want a set. Beautiful fitment on a beautiful car. 👌
Thanks man. Its P51 101rf 20x10; 20x11 lowered on ridetech coilovers. 315/35r20 out back; 275/35r20 front.
And another one! (9sec 5.0) thumbs up, bet...
Torque trails way behind the turbo cars, boost for boost and HP for HP.
Captain obvious strikes again...why so salty cap?
Huh? Oh, it’s your car in the video. Blowers are the inferior choice to me in so many ways. Why didn’t you go turbo?
@@christophermorales1509 i agree turbos are bad ass but I really like how this looks, drives, sounds and the power is more than what I was looking for.
I have both...turbo lsx fox body and P1sc-1 C5z. Turbo cars make great dyno numbers...but you get tired of the issues and the traction problems eventually. Centris just pull harder and harder with no issues.
With what product can a 2015 mustang make the most power?
So I’m pretty sure this car is a manual. I’m trying to find out if so what clutch are you running to hold up to that 900 hp
what wheels? they're beautiful
At 7:24-8:04 was not the same pull it doesn’t shoot flames like the one before
Those are great numbers for having a stock bottom end. I hope this guy understands what happens when a rod lets go.
If not he will find out
Thinking the same thing. Someones gotta go first.
Salty fellaz...lol..tune is conservative...21 degrees timing on e85 at peak. Fuel is good. Its a coyote not a ls/lt!
@@SrtifiedHawk any updates on the car and how it has held up? I’m about to do the same setup on my 2018
@@kevinchandler324 car is sold...I swapped power adders and had a twin 6266 hellion top mount kit and tuned by Lund; felt really strong and is still performing well with the new owner in the Washington area. I have a trackhawk to go fast with now.
I have had turbos in the past... Grand National, Toyota Supra...I always want to put a super charger in my 2011 mustang, but this makes me second guess that decision.
I owned a mkiv supra twin turbo as well...this car would blow that supra away...
How reliable is the 2020 5.0 with that set up?
Well that about seals the deal for me. Procharger it is
Is this stock bottom end? Doesn’t sound like it’s cammed either!
what injectors and fuel system was this with?
A big yup!!
I would like to see this same setup with different manifolds. Stock vs gt350/18 manifold
Gt350 manifold is better in my opinion.
Is that on a stock engine? If not whats done to it?
I’ve got a stock 2016 GT , what would you recommend a Procharger or a hellion twin turbo? I’m not looking to go super crazy , switching out fuel injectors etc, I still want a daily driver. What can I just slap on and tune and be ok?
Both options are great. Just depends on your goals, based on how you are speaking, Procharger may be a great option. We are putting together all new packages for these now
What was the WOT timing?
I have a daily 2015 GT 6r80. I want you guys to install and tune a blower for me. I do the strip a few times a year but mostly DD. Should I go with a procharger P1sc, whipple VMP or what? I'd be happy with 700 ish rwh
There are a lot of good options listed, it really depends on goals and budget. It's best to email us at support@pbdyno.com and we can go over all that with you and make a recommendation
@@PalmBeachDyno Will do
Just curious on the last pull you didn’t start reading until a higher rpm does that affect the numbers?
No because the peak numbers on a setup like this are at higher RPM. Starting a pull higher will show lower torque IF peak torque is below where you started the pull.
Curious on supporting mods? Fuel injectors? Long tubes?
Procharger stage ii system with p-1x head unit all blacked out and stage ii intercooler w/ 4.38 pulley | 14psi
Deatschwerks dw95 injectors
NGK 6510 plugs +1 Heat Range Colder
MMR IMRC Lockouts
Fore level 1 dual pump Ti90000267 return fuel system with F1i regulator and FC2 controller
Mak hurricane inlet for procharger
Gt350 intake manifold
UPR procharger catch can
Boundary billet oil pump gears and crank gears
Reiche 170 degree thermostat
Kooks 1 3/4" catless longtube headers
Thermal R&D catback exhaust
Exedy hyper twin clutch et04xd
MGW shifter
Ford performance clutch line
G force 1 piece aluminum driveshaft
G force outlaw axles (branded ford performance)
Bmr stg 2 cradle lockout
Bmr camber arms
Bmr vertical links
Bmr lower control arm spherical bearing
Steeda subframe alignment kit for bmr cradle lockout
Upr adjustable toe link
Ridetech level 2 coilover system
Steeda 2 piece rotors
Steeda braided brake lines
Motul r600 fluid
P51 101rf wheels 20x10; 20x11 with 275/35r20 and 315/35r20 mpss
Turbosmart Raceport BOV for supercharged applications
Innovate ECF-1 gauge w/ custom line on fuel rail for ethanol content, lambda, fuel pressure and fuel temp.
Powder coated Competition Orange Brake Calipers
@@SrtifiedHawk Well done, very nice....
What would be the cost for this build?
@@Jamie-ww3yz some good coin.
stock engine right? how long you plan on running it like that for
@StangMode @Michael Mac where you at?
They don't want any of that!!!
What fuel system?
Fore level 1 dual pump (with two ti Auto 90000267)
Nevin, what wheels are those? Love them. To me, they look like a 2017 Ford GT wheel.
@@thesaus1975 yes design based off of ford gt...there are many of them that look like it but these are p51 101rf (rotary forged) they weigh like 20 pounds and pretty strong and look good.
How long till the rods go boom?
G Scurf lol my thoughts exactly a motor made for 440hp and around 390whp putting down more than double what it was built for on a stock 5.0 lol
Lol the negativity....we shall see...i gonna keep fresh fluids in her and stay off the limiter. But so far so good...waiting on my drag wheels to mount my bias plys and make a pass at the track.
Nevin Barley no negativity here just saying my thoughts for that..... and half shafts and driveshaft will snap if not upgrade for that kind of power and hope that transmission can handle all that power if it’s all STOCK... also but hey if it’s all stock other then a blower and e85 that’s a hell of a deal there
@@donniemckee i posted my mod list...the bottom end is stock but I did what I could to support the power:
Procharger stage ii system with p-1x head unit all blacked out and stage ii intercooler w/ 4.38 pulley | 14psi
Deatschwerks dw95 injectors
NGK 6510 plugs +1 Heat Range Colder
MMR IMRC Lockouts
Fore level 1 dual pump Ti90000267 return fuel system with F1i regulator and FC2 controller
Mak hurricane inlet for procharger
Gt350 intake manifold
UPR procharger catch can
Boundary billet oil pump gears and crank gears
Reiche 170 degree thermostat
Kooks 1 3/4" catless longtube headers
Thermal R&D catback exhaust
Exedy hyper twin clutch et04xd
MGW shifter
Ford performance clutch line
G force 1 piece aluminum driveshaft
G force outlaw axles (branded ford performance)
Bmr stg 2 cradle lockout
Bmr camber arms
Bmr vertical links
Bmr lower control arm spherical bearing
Steeda subframe alignment kit for bmr cradle lockout
Upr adjustable toe link
Ridetech level 2 coilover system
Steeda 2 piece rotors
Steeda braided brake lines
Motul r600 fluid
P51 101rf wheels 20x10; 20x11 with 275/35r20 and 315/35r20 mpss
Turbosmart Raceport BOV for supercharged applications
Innovate ECF-1 gauge w/ custom line on fuel rail for ethanol content, lambda, fuel pressure and fuel temp.
Powder coated Competition Orange Brake Calipers
@@SrtifiedHawk Hey, any update on a car? how many miles on a build any issues?
how much does stage one make?
Can you do a tune-up on a stock Mustang
Of course
So I have a question if the coyote 50 can produce 900 hp why can’t ford produce 800 hp with the 5.2 L engine in the GT500 it doesn’t make sense
Ford isn't tuning the engine on E85 for one thing.....not as much boost 2nd and have to worry about producing an engine that will have a chance at living for the 5 year/60k mile warranty.
Because Ford's goal is not to make the most power. They have a long list of objectives and durability is near the top of the list
Holy cow bro!!! I was going to say 700hp. Did the gt350 intake really help much? 95lb injectors means about 8 mpg under power? Curious? Oh and how is the ride with the bmr products and ride tech coils? Thanks. The tune was already awesome but in house changes just shows how good you guys are. I will be contacting you guys. You explain your videos even for the novice and that's great!!! Keep the videos coming!
Gt350 intake allows it to rev more but you really need the billet oil pump gears and crank gears, and also the fuel delivery. The car rides amazing with the ridetech coilovers; they'are actually quiet n less bouncy than stock performance pack. The bmr stuff reallly tightened up the slop with the irs and I purposely skipped differential bushings to avoid any gear noise. I really cant report any significant increase in NVH and the car feels planted and just goes.
@@SrtifiedHawk hey man hows the car doing now? other then OPG and crank sprocket did you upgrade any other engine parts? 890hp is a lot for a stock engine i didn't think it could hold that much.
Stock internals?
I got a question I got my GT350 installed a Whipple how much boost can’t take the gt350 .Right now I got 3.75 e85 right now I don’t know my HP I am still waiting my dyno appointment
I would stick with that pulley for now. Should break 800 no problem on E85
What pulley size was that???
Probably a 4.25 that’s abt 14-15 psi
That’s the same car that I seen at MAC performance on the dyno that thing is super loud
She is a screamer ;)
@@SrtifiedHawk are you on COMR?
IG @comustangregistry
Facebook - Official Competition Orange Mustang Registry
@@eddierourk i was..but that group was annoying...i left...
@@SrtifiedHawk how's that
Is the F1a too big for a stock Gen2 if it'll eventually get a built motor? *E85
No, you just run a bigger pulley to get the same amount of boost as this procharger on a smaller pulley.
2nd on what size pulley and can you be persuaded to tune the gen1's with hp tuners - I know currently your only using sct-
They tuned me with HP tuner's Ngauge.
@@SrtifiedHawk what pulley
@@nola504boy1 this was a 4.38 pulley on a cold day..but I wouldn't pay too much attention to these dyno numbers...probably inflated. The car performed much better when I went twin turbo even on much lower boost with a Lund tune.
@@nola504boy1 to be specific 45 degrees Fahrenheit in January 19 in South Fl...
@@SrtifiedHawk gotcha
Anybody know the owner of the cars socials ?
You need to do this for tunnel chaser
That'd be great for the gt350...my money is still on the coyote.
I'm curious on what else is done 2 that motor🤔🤔. I watch a lot of tuner videos & 2 get that kinda power outta a z06 or 7 it takes minimum heads & cam 2 get that kinda power wit a blower. I'm just tryna 2 get a full understanding on what other upgrades are or aren't on the pony.
Zero is done to support more power. The oil pump is swapped out as a safety measure but make this power all the time with these engines. Very common for the Gen 2 Coyote
@@PalmBeachDyno so why does so much have 2 be put into a LS block 2 get the same power 🤔🤔. I don't get it🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️. Not a Ford,Chevrolet or Dodge fan but a fan on speed. 2 many chargers running around, the untrained eye can't tell the difference between a regular charger & a hellcat so i'm leaning towards a mustang & a Corvette. This is great information that s kinda helping me make up my mind.
1tuffzx10 LS engines are pushrod single cam engines. The Coyote is dual overhead cam with twin independent variable cam timing. It uses oil to vary cam positioning. Overall the Coyote is a more advanced, more efficient engine than the LS. The LS is simpler and smaller making it a good engine for swapping into other cars. That’s why Chevy guys do like 100 mods to the engines and are still running 10s while 2nd gen Coyote cars are just strapping on boost with E85 and a tune and running 9s. Coyotes are great engines and love boost.
Thought you would need a D1SC or D1X for 850rwhp, Suprising indeed!
I thought the same...still pretty shocked i'm driving that monster around.
Nevin Barley What exhaust does this thing have sounds perfect
P1X makes more power than a D1sc
It’s to bad y’all don’t remote tune new edge mustangs
Is this the base kit? If so this is awesome. I’m looking into the same setup.
Stage 2 intercooler
Palm Beach Dyno Thank you sir much appreciated.
Outstanding 👍
What size diameter headers are better for centrifugal superchargers 1 3/4" or 1 7/8"?
Loscar5oh 17/8 or even 2 inch
1 7/8
@@PalmBeachDyno are high flow cats okay to have?
What’s a rough price range for the setup
9100 procharger stage 2 , 2400 return style fuel system install 1500 for fuel system procharger install 2000 plus tune
Is the ProCharger really loud? I'm looking at adding a supercharger on my 2019 GT with the auto and I don't want something real loud. I'm looking for something around seven hundred to the wheels. Thanks
From other videos I've watched the prochargers are obnoxiously loud even at idle. But I believe they are the cheaper option out of the other choices.
@@Viktor9502 Definitely not the cheaper option lol (Procharged GT350 Owner)
@@Viktor9502 And also Prochargers are not obnoxiously loud.. Granted louder than a roots as they only whine when accelerating. To me, it is not that bad at all, but definitely attracts a lot of attention at meets, not a sleeper by any means. If you ever want to talk about them @zeus.350 on IG
@@killmonger_5oh how do you like your procharged gt350? I'm doing stage 2 in Jan. 9psi.
@@stephenj37824 You're going to love it man. Hmu on IG @Zeus.350
Are the rods forged or something close to a set of Manley h-beams?
The 15-17 gt has forged rods has the same bottom end as the 12-13 Boss.
At these power levels I would be running a set
of Manley h-beams. A cryo treated boss crank balanced with the Manley rods and diamond pistons with the heat treated coating on top and ARP bolts to hold everything in place. I have a 2011 mustang gt so I have been down this road and I dont trust Ford forged rods. Also at these power levels I would be thinking about a sleeved block. With a 50k car I would take car of these issues before I pushed the numbers higher. My next build will be a mmr billet block. Always better to overbuild.
@@timconnell9587 i'll ask the guys @Palm Beach Dyno what they recommend as I dont plan on increasing power. Ive heard the gen 2 coyote has the boss 302 bottom end and forged rods and better cooling etc. But want the car to run well for a long time so open to suggestions.
.....alright....i'm stickin' with the P1X!!
Tony Bolton do the paxton 2200 or vortech. They use the same blower on either kit. The paxton outflows the p1x by a few hundred cfms. Also comes with a larger intercooler. Kit costs more than $1000.00 less than the procharger. For the money saved you can do a fuel system or lots of other mods for the money. Just my 2 cents but figured I would put it out there for you to research. No matter what kit you do though you will be very close to power and they're all great kits so any one will do👍👌
@@randymatthews3889 kinda frivolous... but I like the easier install of the procharger/less hacking.
Tony Bolton completely understandable my friend. I was going to go that route with a d1x but for the money i went the paxton route. Great customer service also. I received a damaged intercooler and they shipped a new one the next day no questions asked. I used to run procharger on my 4v cobra back in the day but always had a hard time with customer service. Also I didn't like the fact that you had to bolt another pulley to the existing balancer for the coyote. Puts more stress on the crankshaft/oil pump gears. But all will make awesome power and be reliable.
@@randymatthews3889 any track times?
Randy Matthews u
PBD....do you only tune or do you install also...?
They work with a shop right next door called Rare Fab for turn key jobs.
@@SrtifiedHawk I'm thinking about trailering my 19 PP2 out there for install and tune...🤔
@@1904RICK1 I'm in Louisiana and thinking the same. I don't think there are any shops that do installs and tunes on Coyotes on an everyday basis like that around here. Plus I want this quality of work(for the 10+ grand I'll be shelling out) and relentless pursuit of perfecting the tune.
Holy shit
Tell the truth , do the math stock coyote p1x at about 15 or 16 psi no shit 870 to the wheels no suprise to me , my 14 gt procharger made 621 on 7 1/2 psi
Any 1/4 times yet ? Or can we at least knows what it's trapping?
Ill let you know soon...supposed to.be hitting track soon...pray for my mt82...lol
Hopefully it survives lol
Twin turbo is the only way to go with the 5.0.......This engine is too “peaky”....the turbos come in much earlier and help make up for the low torque at low rpms that these engines suffer from. JMHO
its too much in the engine bay. too much heat too.
@@mrbdrm2 Helion and or custom.
I would love to put one on my 5.3 Tahoe
Annnnnd next week the crankshaft breaks whoo hoo Ford rules
No its not a LS motor
I have never ever heard a broken coyote crankshaft