Permutation City - A mind-bending look at the singularity, consciousness, and immortality!

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  • Permutation City by Greg Egan is a triumph of hard scifi! One of the best-ever explorations of mind-uploading, it also brings a mind-bending idea about randomness, the nature of the universe, and consciousness that will stay with you forever.
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    Paul Durham has begun experimenting on his own mind. He uploaded a copy of his neural patterns - everything that makes him who he is - into a computer simulation. The more he experiments, the more the lines between the real person and the virtual person begin to blur. What he discovers there, out at the edge of consciousness and the pattern that defines him, give him an impossible idea. A permutation city, where immortality might be possible.
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    - The Last Question - short story by Asimov (available free here: users.ece.cmu.edu/~gamvrosi/t...)
    - Diaspora - Greg Egan
    Timestamps
    00:00 No-spoilers setup
    0:35 Intro
    1:57 The review (4 / 5)
    2:36 Consciousness upload
    4:21 Flat conversations and characters
    6:55 Would you upload yourself?
    14:12 Solipsist Nation and the birth of AI
    18:15 Greg Egan the Recluse
    19:18 Similar book recommendations
    21:42 SPOILERS SECTION - BOOK SUMMARY
    25:10 SPOILERS SECTION - ANALYSIS OF THE ENDING
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  • @scottbrooks6425
    @scottbrooks6425 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Glad the little one is doing well.
    The only thing more terrifying than the thought of dying is living forever. Consciousness is exhausting.

  • @SuperErickelrojo
    @SuperErickelrojo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    31:18 basically "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" by Harlan Ellison

  • @JohnG225
    @JohnG225 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One of my favourite sci-fi novels of all time.

    • @hugonautspod
      @hugonautspod  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We truly can’t stop thinking about it

  • @gordonburroughs2474
    @gordonburroughs2474 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve been meaning to read this one. I may try after finishing Mountain in the Sea

  • @RichardJActon
    @RichardJActon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you want to explore some of the uploaded minds concepts more I recommend: 'The Age of Em: Work, Love and Life when Robots Rule the Earth' a 2016 nonfiction book by Robin Hanson.

    • @hugonautspod
      @hugonautspod  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome, thanks for the rec!

  • @WordsinTime
    @WordsinTime 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Permutation City is my 2nd favourite book of all time.
    I completely disagree in regard to the characters and dialogue haha. I was very much invested in Paul, and Maria, and Thomas. Peer and Kate were slightly less interesting but I still liked them.
    However, if they had been generic hard sci-fi characters I still would have given this book 5 stars for the ideas alone. Dust Theory is one of my favourite things I’ve ever read in a novel.
    Also, the way the story was told was incredible. Almost every chapter ending was a jaw dropper 🤯

    • @hugonautspod
      @hugonautspod  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well this begs the question - what's your favorite book of all time?!

    • @WordsinTime
      @WordsinTime 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hugonautspod House of Suns by Alastair Reynolds!

    • @hugonautspod
      @hugonautspod  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WordsinTimesuch a good one!

    • @gordonburroughs2474
      @gordonburroughs2474 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree - I thought the characters and dialogue were actually fairly good and better than most idea novels. Peer was wild. Thomas was the weakest - I didn’t care to relive his worst moment over and over and I don’t think it showed a real redemption when he finally chose different.

  • @joepacak6521
    @joepacak6521 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

  • @JohnG225
    @JohnG225 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who cares about characters in a book like this anyway :)

    • @hugonautspod
      @hugonautspod  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha spoken like a true hard SF fan!