@@PerthWAtch its a great watch Ivan - i find it wears a little small on me due to really having no lugs. I thought id prefer the 39 but i think for me the 43 is the go. Worth checking one out though 👍
I have the old one and love how it looks especially in the light when the light catches the dial Plus the hands look better. If I would change anything I would like a fully brushed bracelet.
I didn't like the polished flanks at first, but its grown on me and I actually like it now. If you really want it brushed, any decent jeweler or watchmaker should be able to brush it for you for not that much. Just make sure its an actual jeweler and not like a Jared or something
Nice to see the two pieces side by side, for me personally there are things on each watch that I find more to my taste, but as you quite rightly point out the whole exercise is very subjective, I do agree that the mk1 has a better hand set but I prefer the Indices & the crown guards on the mk2. But for me personally I think that the mk1 just wins it for the overall more tool watch look particularly the chunkier bracelet! But that wouldn't stop me from buying the newer version. Which is actually on my "to do" list for this year. 😊
Everything else being equal (which in this case it most certainly appears to be) - more steel equals more durable. If things were not equal, then other factors and differences have to be considered.
@@PerthWAtch I'm thinking of getting this Oris aquis in 43.5mm with the blue dial, black ceramic bezel, and the blue rubber strap or the green version on the bracelet which one would be more comfortable 😎👍
I saw pictures when buying, if all things being equal, I loved the green color. That one was $1499US for the new model on a bracelet $1368 on rubber strap. If I was going to spend more, that's what I would have bought.
I love the "Aquis" text on the dial. I like when watches have "names" and aren't simply just model numbers, so I like seeing that on the dial. Even though I'm sure people would be mad at Oris for copying Rolex, I'd love it even more if the "Aquis" text was in red. Just love that design from the Sea-Dweller and I think it's too good to worry about being criticized for being uncreative.
That's an interesting idea, putting it in red. I never drew the parallel with the Sea Dweller but now that you mention it, it's easy to see what you mean! :)
hi ivan. thanks for the review. it seems like most of them prefer the older version. for me, personally, i like the new version. it just seems more refined in design where you can use both as tool and bit dressy watch. thank you Ivan and Happy New Year.
@@samuelball8775 good to know that we both share same taste. yep. I tend to write long because it is super difficult to convey everything I have to say. nowadays, everyone is living in "snapchat" and "instagram" era, so unless everything is short and simple, they do not like to invest time to read for a while. very glad to know there is someone who has been reading my comments... of course, except Ivan, ha ha
@@alexsdg3441 i figure if you took the time to write it out and express yourself then it must be worth a read 👍 i know what you mean about the speed or today's world - everyone is used to instant these days. Keep up the good work 👊
Thanks for the side by side. Sold the old model a while ago and am waiting on the new model to arrive in a few days. I'm glad the new one is a bit less chunky. I prefer the dial text on the old one but like the new hands better. Will be getting all the polished bits brushed as soon as i get it. It's too tooly to be shiny.
Thanks for the comment - you must have a trusted watchmaker to do the brushing I guess? Or do you do it yourself? I haven’t been game enough to get mine altered that way...
G'day Ivan , happy New year mate , yeah give me the old style everyday of the week , I have a big wrist and I think the chunkier older one will suit me , great video as always Ivan thanks mate .....
I thank you for the video firstly. Great job. I own the Titan chronograph and the small seconds titan 46mm as well as the new 43.5 green hulk and 46 small seconds blue. All beautiful and have to say the new case and dial are slightly more refined although the date is no easier to read. Much of a muchness really. But nice here is my problem with the new ones. The bracelet actually make me sick in comparison to the older. They have sucked the testesterone out of it. Not as chunky, not as wide and less contours as a result. Lost it 3D effect so to speak. The clasp is too small and I need glasses to read the "oris" on it. I am selling both new ones and keeping the chunky manly titans. Having said that the both go head to head with Breitling. Omega. Even Tudor. Value for money they kick their ass. Love Oris.
Thanks for sharing those thoughts Joseph. Wow 4 of these, you obviously have much love for the brand! Yeah I agree with you regarding the bracelet... indeed it feels like some oomph has been sucked out of them!
great review on both models. You are the reason I bought an aqis lol, love mine! quick question, mine came with a rubber strap and was looking for a stainless steel oris band, any ideas on where I can get for a reasonable price? Cheers and happy new year from America!
Thanks for that man - happy new year to you also :) I’m not sure if there are specific retailers that sell the bracelet but others have mentioned sourcing one so I suspect it would be a simple search exercise.
@@PerthWAtch appreciate the response, yah, can buy directly from Oris for a tad over 300 bucks but was wondering if you knew anyone that was more along wholesale pricing lol
the answer is obviously subjective to which one someone already owns or has availability to. I like them both but just bought the newer one. I like the new dial printing and the slimmer taper of the bracelet on the new one. Nothing wrong with the old one either, I like the more squared off edge on the bezel as opposed to the pointier one on the new one. I really like the color on the new one I bought with the black dial and orange hands which glow yellow. Its somewhat unique and different.
Just got the newer one with a grey dial. Picked that color for two reasons, all most all of my divers are blue, and saved almost $200 hundred dollars opting for that color, on rubber strap which is really comfortable to wear. I paid $1129US for it grey, the blue dial was $1290US(both on rubber straps). As far as new two old, without comparing them side to side would never have noticed. I do prefer less wording on yours than on the newer one, outside of that both are fine. No watch is perfect, but thee only thing that sort of upsets me is the strap/bracelet lugs, it would be an effort to go for a third party strap, yes there are 3rd party rubber straps that one can get that you just use your buckles and attach it. But going to a NATO, or for me to go for a bracelet would require me to get adaptors, or just bite the bullet and buy an Oris Bracelet. I do wish I knew that before buying, but in the end would still have bought the Aquis, and even if the price was the same would have went grey or green. Just checked Ebay I did see some third party leather straps for about $40, replacement 3rd party rubber straps for like $20.00 (using your own buckles). Oris replacement straps without buckles are $167 (really, for two piece of rubber with no hardware, add $120 if you need a new buckle.) and $440 if I want to go for an Oris Bracelet. The leather straps using their own common hardware. I did read somewhere that Strapcode may come up with a bracelet for the Aquis, that would be a good solution. Still that's what life is with horology. Heard of far worse stories on Omega and Rolex Bracelets. And that is why I bought my Seamaster with bracelet. Even if I didn't want to use it, get a decent 20mm strap, and put the bracelet in the watches box in case of resale. Generally I don't like going grey, but when you're talking aprox a third of the value of the watch in price difference, I'll take my chances. Even if a reputable dealer provides their own warranty. And even better that it's using a Selita movement that is not hard to find servicing with a common movement.
Great comment there! Thanks for sharing all those details, especially with regards to the third party possibilities for straps, and also the pricing for original Oris options. A Strapcode product would indeed be rather awesome! :)
I would highly recommend keeping an eye on Ebay and Chrono24 for an Oris bracelet. Every so often you can find a new w/o tags or a mint pre-owned bracelet for a little over $300 US. I bought a blue Aquis on Oris' leather strap a little over a year ago, and I liked it. A few weeks ago, I bit the bullet and bought a bracelet (new w/o tags for about $320), and I am so glad that I did. I've fallen in love with the watch all over again since putting the bracelet on. Aquises look good on leather, and great on rubber, but I really think that the bracelet is integral to the rest of the design language of the watch. I hadn't heard about Strapcode coming out with a bracelet for the Aquis, but I'm excited by the prospect.
Ivan, I'm tempted to pick-up a discarded Aquis from a disillusioned fan boy, in order to trim the lugs on a band saw, to a 20-22mm lug width. Then submit the mod for evaluation here. But I fear I would be overwhelmed by requests to mod every proprietary banded Aquis ever made. ( Btw, you must have replaced the oddball triple slotted band attachment screws with standard slotted screws on your piece, but left them in the crown guards, eh? ) So, what about a company which nearly imperceptibly tweaks it's designs (for the worse in this case) and then raises the price? Time for a hostile takeover or just a new President?
That would be an interesting mod to try... you must be quite handy if you can finish it well after that! I haven’t changed the screws here - the old model had standard slot screws for the bracelet attachment (and triple slot for the crown guards, which shouldn’t need to be touched). Personally (and mostly subjectively) I feel that the older model is better, but I cannot objectively tell anyone the new one is inferior, it’s mostly my preferences.
Had the old one with orange markers a few years ago and loved it so much. now i have the new one (clipperton limited). i like the new one much more. it is not that chunky, especially concerning the bracelet and lugs. the newer one seems to be more refined, more mature, balanced and a bit more like a dress diver (if its the glossy one - here its „hidden“ by the matte finish) than the old „tool aquis“. but depends on what you like :) But to be honest, comparing the all matte new aquis to one of the greatest old glossy versions is quite unfair - i think the matte version is the most boring reference you can buy atm. the indices look so flat just because the dial is matte - a glossy dial changes so much. the refining of the new aquis really comes to life, if you choose a glossy one, imho. forgive me, dear owner - of course just my taste :o)
The Clipperton edition is cool, I love the color combo on that, as well as that case back! Is this old model one of the "greatest"? I wasn't aware of that. In any case, I do think it is subjective in the end, and some definitely prefer matte rather than gloss/polish finishes. If I had a new model in the same finish & color lying around the house, rest assured I certainly would have used that one for comparison ;)
I prefer the new one, since it will spend much more time on my wrist as an everyday watch at the office, rather than as a dive watch. I also prefer the new hands.
Crap now I wished I would've bought the old model. I def like the heavier bracelet and more shiny ceramic insert on the old. WHY DID I NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO 10HRS AGO!?😫😫
@@PerthWAtch so my option now is - if I want the old, I will have to pay about $275 more.. Not sure if it's worth it so I think I'm gonna stick with the new model. I went with the orange lume with black dial Aquis
Great review! I have the Oris Arquis 39.5mm and it’s my favorite watch I own. Keep the videos coming excellent content
Thanks for that! The 39mm version would be interesting to see in hand... never had the chance to look closely at one.
@@PerthWAtch its a great watch Ivan - i find it wears a little small on me due to really having no lugs. I thought id prefer the 39 but i think for me the 43 is the go. Worth checking one out though 👍
I just got the older model brand new at 40% off, grey face and green bezel. Love it
40% off is great value for that!
I have the old one and love how it looks especially in the light when the light catches the dial Plus the hands look better. If I would change anything I would like a fully brushed bracelet.
Thanks for that - yeah a full brushed bracelet would be interesting. Which colour dial do you have - same blue as mine?
I didn't like the polished flanks at first, but its grown on me and I actually like it now.
If you really want it brushed, any decent jeweler or watchmaker should be able to brush it for you for not that much. Just make sure its an actual jeweler and not like a Jared or something
I love Oris watches. I have a few fairly old Oris watches but I'm keen on getting a newly made pointer date to compare to my old one.
The pointer date models sure seem to be quite popular.
Interesting comparison, thanks. Prefer the older model, but both beautiful. Cheers 👍🏻
Thanks - I lean toward the older model myself :)
Nice to see the two pieces side by side, for me personally there are things on each watch that I find more to my taste, but as you quite rightly point out the whole exercise is very subjective, I do agree that the mk1 has a better hand set but I prefer the Indices & the crown guards on the mk2. But for me personally I think that the mk1 just wins it for the overall more tool watch look particularly the chunkier bracelet! But that wouldn't stop me from buying the newer version. Which is actually on my "to do" list for this year. 😊
Thanks for the thoughts Adrian! All well reasoned and fair enough I reckon... we agree on most points :)
I own both. Both are stunning time pieces. Thanks for the video!
Most welcome - glad you enjoyed it :)
They both are beautiful
Yes they are :)
Im not a diver, but i owned the revised version blue dial.
it's so beautiful, can watch it all day under the sun :,)
Nice!
"Durability: well the old one is heavier, so I'll say that one is more durable"
🤷🏻♂️
Everything else being equal (which in this case it most certainly appears to be) - more steel equals more durable. If things were not equal, then other factors and differences have to be considered.
@@PerthWAtch I'm thinking of getting this Oris aquis in 43.5mm with the blue dial, black ceramic bezel, and the blue rubber strap or the green version on the bracelet which one would be more comfortable 😎👍
I’d go bracelet for sure but then again I’m biased that way
I love my old one (bought as new old stock in April 2019). I have the grey dial with green bezel. Objective for 2020 would be to get the GMT date.
That’s awesome man - all the best for objective 2020! :)
I saw pictures when buying, if all things being equal, I loved the green color. That one was $1499US for the new model on a bracelet $1368 on rubber strap. If I was going to spend more, that's what I would have bought.
Thank you for that comparsion. I'm definately after prelift Oris due its roubutness look a like.
Most welcome! All the best :)
I love the "Aquis" text on the dial. I like when watches have "names" and aren't simply just model numbers, so I like seeing that on the dial. Even though I'm sure people would be mad at Oris for copying Rolex, I'd love it even more if the "Aquis" text was in red. Just love that design from the Sea-Dweller and I think it's too good to worry about being criticized for being uncreative.
That's an interesting idea, putting it in red. I never drew the parallel with the Sea Dweller but now that you mention it, it's easy to see what you mean! :)
hi ivan. thanks for the review. it seems like most of them prefer the older version. for me, personally, i like the new version. it just seems more refined in design where you can use both as tool and bit dressy watch. thank you Ivan and Happy New Year.
Thanks Alex - a very happy new year to you! :)
I agree with your thoughts Alex. I quite like the newer handset too. I always read your comments... Some take a while to read 😂 cheers mate 👍
@@samuelball8775 good to know that we both share same taste. yep. I tend to write long because it is super difficult to convey everything I have to say. nowadays, everyone is living in "snapchat" and "instagram" era, so unless everything is short and simple, they do not like to invest time to read for a while. very glad to know there is someone who has been reading my comments... of course, except Ivan, ha ha
@@alexsdg3441 i figure if you took the time to write it out and express yourself then it must be worth a read 👍 i know what you mean about the speed or today's world - everyone is used to instant these days. Keep up the good work 👊
Thanks for the side by side. Sold the old model a while ago and am waiting on the new model to arrive in a few days. I'm glad the new one is a bit less chunky. I prefer the dial text on the old one but like the new hands better. Will be getting all the polished bits brushed as soon as i get it. It's too tooly to be shiny.
Thanks for the comment - you must have a trusted watchmaker to do the brushing I guess? Or do you do it yourself? I haven’t been game enough to get mine altered that way...
What's the accuracy of these Sellittas?
Typically -10/+30spd range
G'day Ivan , happy New year mate , yeah give me the old style everyday of the week , I have a big wrist and I think the chunkier older one will suit me , great video as always Ivan thanks mate .....
Thanks for that Trevor - wishing you a very happy new year also! :)
I want them both 👍
Me too mate! :)
I like the case,bracelet, and dial from the new one, but the hands and glossy bezel insert from the older one
Haha if only they would put those options together!!
I thank you for the video firstly. Great job. I own the Titan chronograph and the small seconds titan 46mm as well as the new 43.5 green hulk and 46 small seconds blue. All beautiful and have to say the new case and dial are slightly more refined although the date is no easier to read. Much of a muchness really. But nice here is my problem with the new ones. The bracelet actually make me sick in comparison to the older. They have sucked the testesterone out of it. Not as chunky, not as wide and less contours as a result. Lost it 3D effect so to speak. The clasp is too small and I need glasses to read the "oris" on it. I am selling both new ones and keeping the chunky manly titans. Having said that the both go head to head with Breitling. Omega. Even Tudor. Value for money they kick their ass. Love Oris.
Thanks for sharing those thoughts Joseph. Wow 4 of these, you obviously have much love for the brand! Yeah I agree with you regarding the bracelet... indeed it feels like some oomph has been sucked out of them!
Ivan is a total Oris fan boi !
Correction - I’m a total Oris Aquis fan boy ;)
great review on both models. You are the reason I bought an aqis lol, love mine! quick question, mine came with a rubber strap and was looking for a stainless steel oris band, any ideas on where I can get for a reasonable price? Cheers and happy new year from America!
Thanks for that man - happy new year to you also :)
I’m not sure if there are specific retailers that sell the bracelet but others have mentioned sourcing one so I suspect it would be a simple search exercise.
@@PerthWAtch appreciate the response, yah, can buy directly from Oris for a tad over 300 bucks but was wondering if you knew anyone that was more along wholesale pricing lol
the answer is obviously subjective to which one someone already owns or has availability to. I like them both but just bought the newer one. I like the new dial printing and the slimmer taper of the bracelet on the new one. Nothing wrong with the old one either, I like the more squared off edge on the bezel as opposed to the pointier one on the new one. I really like the color on the new one I bought with the black dial and orange hands which glow yellow. Its somewhat unique and different.
Yep, that’s what I said ;)
Where can I get the newer Aquis Date 39mm in the UK for a decent price? Surely it is below £1000 now
Dunno man... do you have Google there?
Is the bracelet on the new version all brushed?
No It has polished sides, just like the older model
Perth WAtch there is a completely brushed version I have just bought it, it’s the Matt black version with Matt ceramic bezel and all brushed bracelet
Thanks for sharing that - yeah I heard about that and have checked it out
Is the new ceramic bezel in matte finish?
This one is, but there are models that come in polish finish also I’m sure
This one is even the only version that is matte - all of the other new models are glossy too. I like the glossy new ones much better.
Just got the newer one with a grey dial. Picked that color for two reasons, all most all of my divers are blue, and saved almost $200 hundred dollars opting for that color, on rubber strap which is really comfortable to wear. I paid $1129US for it grey, the blue dial was $1290US(both on rubber straps). As far as new two old, without comparing them side to side would never have noticed. I do prefer less wording on yours than on the newer one, outside of that both are fine.
No watch is perfect, but thee only thing that sort of upsets me is the strap/bracelet lugs, it would be an effort to go for a third party strap, yes there are 3rd party rubber straps that one can get that you just use your buckles and attach it. But going to a NATO, or for me to go for a bracelet would require me to get adaptors, or just bite the bullet and buy an Oris Bracelet. I do wish I knew that before buying, but in the end would still have bought the Aquis, and even if the price was the same would have went grey or green. Just checked Ebay I did see some third party leather straps for about $40, replacement 3rd party rubber straps for like $20.00 (using your own buckles). Oris replacement straps without buckles are $167 (really, for two piece of rubber with no hardware, add $120 if you need a new buckle.) and $440 if I want to go for an Oris Bracelet. The leather straps using their own common hardware.
I did read somewhere that Strapcode may come up with a bracelet for the Aquis, that would be a good solution. Still that's what life is with horology. Heard of far worse stories on Omega and Rolex Bracelets. And that is why I bought my Seamaster with bracelet. Even if I didn't want to use it, get a decent 20mm strap, and put the bracelet in the watches box in case of resale.
Generally I don't like going grey, but when you're talking aprox a third of the value of the watch in price difference, I'll take my chances. Even if a reputable dealer provides their own warranty. And even better that it's using a Selita movement that is not hard to find servicing with a common movement.
Great comment there! Thanks for sharing all those details, especially with regards to the third party possibilities for straps, and also the pricing for original Oris options. A Strapcode product would indeed be rather awesome! :)
I would highly recommend keeping an eye on Ebay and Chrono24 for an Oris bracelet. Every so often you can find a new w/o tags or a mint pre-owned bracelet for a little over $300 US. I bought a blue Aquis on Oris' leather strap a little over a year ago, and I liked it. A few weeks ago, I bit the bullet and bought a bracelet (new w/o tags for about $320), and I am so glad that I did. I've fallen in love with the watch all over again since putting the bracelet on. Aquises look good on leather, and great on rubber, but I really think that the bracelet is integral to the rest of the design language of the watch.
I hadn't heard about Strapcode coming out with a bracelet for the Aquis, but I'm excited by the prospect.
Ivan, I'm tempted to pick-up a discarded Aquis from a disillusioned fan boy, in order to trim the lugs on a band saw, to a 20-22mm lug width. Then submit the mod for evaluation here. But I fear I would be overwhelmed by requests to mod every proprietary banded Aquis ever made. ( Btw, you must have replaced the oddball triple slotted band attachment screws with standard slotted screws on your piece, but left them in the crown guards, eh? )
So, what about a company which nearly imperceptibly tweaks it's designs (for the worse in this case) and then raises the price? Time for a hostile takeover or just a new President?
That would be an interesting mod to try... you must be quite handy if you can finish it well after that! I haven’t changed the screws here - the old model had standard slot screws for the bracelet attachment (and triple slot for the crown guards, which shouldn’t need to be touched).
Personally (and mostly subjectively) I feel that the older model is better, but I cannot objectively tell anyone the new one is inferior, it’s mostly my preferences.
Had the old one with orange markers a few years ago and loved it so much. now i have the new one (clipperton limited). i like the new one much more. it is not that chunky, especially concerning the bracelet and lugs. the newer one seems to be more refined, more mature, balanced and a bit more like a dress diver (if its the glossy one - here its „hidden“ by the matte finish) than the old „tool aquis“. but depends on what you like :) But to be honest, comparing the all matte new aquis to one of the greatest old glossy versions is quite unfair - i think the matte version is the most boring reference you can buy atm. the indices look so flat just because the dial is matte - a glossy dial changes so much. the refining of the new aquis really comes to life, if you choose a glossy one, imho. forgive me, dear owner - of course just my taste :o)
The Clipperton edition is cool, I love the color combo on that, as well as that case back!
Is this old model one of the "greatest"? I wasn't aware of that. In any case, I do think it is subjective in the end, and some definitely prefer matte rather than gloss/polish finishes. If I had a new model in the same finish & color lying around the house, rest assured I certainly would have used that one for comparison ;)
I prefer the new one, since it will spend much more time on my wrist as an everyday watch at the office, rather than as a dive watch. I also prefer the new hands.
Thanks for your thoughts!
Crap now I wished I would've bought the old model. I def like the heavier bracelet and more shiny ceramic insert on the old. WHY DID I NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO 10HRS AGO!?😫😫
I think there may well be a shiny ceramic insert variant on the current range, but yeah the bracelet is certainly different
@@PerthWAtch so my option now is - if I want the old, I will have to pay about $275 more.. Not sure if it's worth it so I think I'm gonna stick with the new model. I went with the orange lume with black dial Aquis
If you hunt around you might find a fair or good deal on second hand markets...
@@PerthWAtch good advice. Hey one more thing... Are the old and new bracelets interchangeable on the Aquis??
A good question... the answer to which is sadly not known to me...
Jomashop has the new Oris on a bracelet for less than $1500
Yes they do!
🔥Fuck yeah! 🔥
Really enjoyed this!
Which one would you prefer?
My eyes kept being drawn to the older model.
So, you have the right one, Ivan.
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