Can You Trust Google?
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- Pixel 8's 7 years of software updates is revolutionary... maybe
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lets come back to this comment 7 years later to see if google kept their word
7months later yeah they did
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Let’s hope google actually gets 7 years, that way more company’s will continue to increase support for all models
I used to work for google and i just been let go a week ago so here is what i heard in one the team meetings by the senior management team. They going to support your software for 8-10years but your phisycal handset is not going to last that long. They will make sure that 3-4yrs top or if you are unlucky 2yrs or less. They will slow it down on almost every updates and create uncomfortable user experience... phone will get hot, batery drains..etc. You can thank me later but for now i need to find a new IT job and update my CV. Good luck.
Which Android device can last 7 years?
@@manu4ever249Fairphone maybe? When a device fails it's usually just a single component rather than the whole device, so a device with modular components that can be individually replaced stands the best chance of lasting.
@@ghosthdel3098 My Pixel 2 still runs like a top with Lineage OS. I just added a new battery, charging port and battery for about $40.
@@manu4ever249 Pixel 2. I just passed the 6-year mark of using mine daily.
Hope people appreciate you staying unbiased in the name of all global tech consumers. Kudos
I think 7 yrs won't happen. I think they gonna announce a cut on that promise later. On the other hand, if brands would do and settle for 5 yrs of updates, I think in the tech world, that is plenty of time and I would be happy with that.
Enserio 😒
That would lead to a class action lawsuit
I dont think anyone will hold their phone for 7 years. Maximum 5 years. In 7 years I doubt they will have pixel 8 users. I bought mine from a carrier £25 a month for 2 years.
@@abcfx7391you would be suprised. Modern phones can last a long time now even without updates. This aint the 2010s where every 6 months you got a groundbreaking new update that completely transformed the market. The market has matured a lot and other than incremental upgrades you dont see any groundbreaking innovations anymore. I have had my phone for 4 years now and i think it can easily last more
Holding tech companies liable to their promises. Thank you Marques!
Moreover, what does "support" even mean, there are lots of products that Google still technically supports, yet don't actually receive any updates.
Like Apple? lol..come on dude...
No on holding accordable. Its just opinion making
I know you’re probably the worlds biggest tech TH-camrs, but I really appreciate your honest, unbiased thoughts on these corporations and their practices. Sure they make some great stuff, but they need to be kept in line. A channel as big as yours keeping its integrity is a good thing. Keep it going man. You’re a force for good.
Honest? Unbiased? LMAO
@@lilmoris1do you have examples of him being the opposite?
@@IIOctaneIIany and all products made by or associated with apple
@@zozzinator I don't even like Apple, but that sounds like a bias *you* have against Apple products.
@@IIOctaneIII have heard many others accuse MKBHD for being an Apple fanboy and probably being sponsored by Apple and other tie ins with Apple etc...
They say it's easy to see if you watch all his videos religiously, it's quite Apple biased. He just very good with words so it's subtle.
With this in mind, I still love watching MKBHD and I will never move over to an iPhone. Although I use a MacBook Pro, but it's just the best tool for the work I do. Although now, I might be switching back to Windows. We'll see...
Subscribed because of this video. Have had a pixel 4a and now a 6a, at one point considered the pixel pass and when they announced they killed it before it took effect I decided I'll never get a pixel again. That could have been their plan all along, to never have fufilled this part of the deal. I'm very happy to see you talking about this as I want it to be common knowledge.
What will you switch to?
@@Writer_Productions_MapI'm not going to have to switch until my current phone breaks down but I'm currently thinking a zenphone since I don't want a large phone
@@zhuguidai5 months later, they killed the zenphone lmfao
@@Pepe-nm9vk I know! I was going to get one wtf
Out of all companies, from experience, Apple is the one that has the longest support. This year, they updated my old iPhone SE 1 with iOS 15 something security update. I was like wth! That thing is ancient and I only keep it as a collectors item now but it’s cool how they still care about it to some extent to keep it safe
iPhone 6s with Seven Years Update (2015-2022)
My iPhone 6S plus was supported (and used) for the full 7 years of its life. I have a 14 Pro Max now but I still use the old one and it’s still getting security updates. OS updates were cut off last year. Would love to see this kind of longevity on Android
That’s a big dream
It simply is not possible. Only 4 iphones are released every year with a huge price tag. But on Android,there are many phone makers, various chip makers and thousands of model released every year. Also most of them are value for money. How can you expect the same from a 1000$ phone and a 150$ phone??
@@sjsabbir_ the topic at hand is Pixel phones - phones that cost 800€+ and are made by the same company that updates the OS. If it's possible for Apple, it should be possible for Google.
@@sjsabbir_ Google owns android and has less models than Apple, lmao
@@sjsabbir_bro some android phones even at 1000$USD or around that price only get like 2 years of software updates, luckily my Samsung S20fe still gets updates, but mostly security updates.
I love the comparison you made with modern gaming. It really relates how companies are just ok with promising big and delivering under cooked and we eat it up.
I will never forget the day Yong yea shilled me Cyberpunk 2077.
The strategy is called "Overpromise and Underdeliver"
Says the lady commenting on TH-cam videos. Pick a stance, and stick with it, sister.
Yes it’s partially the fault of the general consumer. We all get fucked even when a few people fall for the trap.
@@THEGREENHELIUM Exactly.
People blame capitalism, when really it's just greed and idiots continuing to support it.
You have opened my eyes to a whole new aspect I consider when making a software purchase. Very informative and backed with tangible examples. Thank you for being transparent.
Thanks for the hard work in putting together these videos. I agree with your observations on Google.
I had an iPad Air 2nd gen which had iOS 8 on it and was updated till iPadOS 15! That’s like 8 major versions of iOS! It’s still runs very well!
Google killing Pixel Pass just before the 2-year mark was the nail in the coffin for me. I've been on Android since the T-Mobile G1 (the very first Android phone) and I finally switched to the iPhone for the first time. I've been heavily invested in Google products and services but them continuing to kill off products and services has made me lose all trust in their ability to support their devices.
Been a Google fan since nexus 4 and just switched to iPhone. Been stuck with the pixel 4 xl because the modems in the p6 n 7 pro give me shit service where I work. I told them my nexus 6p shouldn't have better service than the pixel 7 pro and they just apologized. I was on my 4th refurbished 4xl and it was too buggy lol
same here. What infuriates me the most is the Chromecast Audio. They just axed this great dongle with ZERO ability to replicate its functionality. Not even open sourcing the code. With AirPlay, you at least can use Macs, Raspberry Pis or AirPort Wi-Fi routers as receivers, with Chromecast you either buy a speaker or receiver or you're SOL. How am I supposed to play music from an Android phone to a speaker? With a cable? Which then needs a DONGLE? No thanks. iPhone it is.
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@@PvtAnonymousfirst, let me just say that I do completely agree with everything you said. It should never be this complicated but I have found a ton of workarounds for still being able to stream in higher quality, similar to my 3 Chromecast Audios but it takes tech savvy and joy from customizing products to be able to do it. I'm just glad they are still supporting the Chromecast Audio instead of bricking them altogether.
Very informative content and easy to understand as always 😊
Can I just say. I absolutely love your videos man. Such high quality content. For free!. Thank you. ❤
What you should not forget is: They made the same promise in the EU/Germany - this makes not delivering on this promise much harder. The regulations here are not allowing for them to stop updating the phones earlier without extreme punishment
No, because it gets sold by a limited liability sub-company based in Ireland
If they stop support earlier than I discard the phone I'm gonna start digging how can you make a collective lawsuite. I'm in eu zone.
You won't be able to@@SneakyJoeRu
Eh, they didn’t really nail themselves to a wall when it comes to specifics. They didn’t promise to release every major Android OS Version for 7 years for example. They can throw in a small security update and a new bootlogo once a year and still technically fulfill their „promise“.
Not to mention that the 5-10 remaining pixel 8 users in 7years won’t be quite loud enough for google or lawmakers to care if they don’t.
@@vincentwendel4564 That does not get them off the hook re: binding EU legislation.
Another thing with Google Pixel phones: The Hold for Me feature looks really neat. It was a significant factor in me buying a Pixel phone. After I bought it, I discovered that it only works in the US, Canada and Australia. Of course, this isn't prominently mentioned in their advertising, and most reviewers are US-based.
Same with the latest iOS "Live Voicemail" feature as well, only available in the US and Canada. I live in the UK, we speak the same language, It's a feature that runs on the phone itself, why it's not available I have no idea...
well... most of the "good" feature are always only for US. if i have to get a pixel, it's for the stock (or near stock) experience. Rest of the OEM either is mid range or just bloated OS with their skin...
exact same as me, im in the uk
@@Burty117it’s also a carrier thing. The phone carriers have to be able to stream voicemails in real time for the transcription to work. Most carriers don’t do this and Apple pretty much always work with American carriers first before deploying those features worldwide. It was the same for eSIM, for VoLTE, FaceTime over Cellular, and a bunch of other things
@@KrishnaAdettiwar That's not how the feature works... It literally live transcribes what the person leaving a message is saying, My Google Pixel was able to do this for years, it has nothing to do with carriers. As far as the carrier is aware, we answered the call.
Thank you for being someone with a platform as yours speaking out.
i just wanna say i love your videos! keep up the great content (:
Marques might be the only one in the industry that can make these companies listen
Thanks Marques for being such a cool dude :)
that0s is what you believe
I highly doubt tech giants would care of his comments, he is as much as a random to companies as we are to him xD
@@glaze4629you're joking, right? Marques has had a one on one session with Elon Musk, Bill Gates & others. The very first thing Apple displayed at its conference was a quote of Marques. There's been literally direct implementations of Marques suggestions by tech companies. What are you on about?
@@Gold-lv5ih I agree with both you and @glaze4629, yes Marques does have a lot of influence and is incredibly successful, but at the end of the day, these companies are still going to do what they want. He's still just a consumer to them.
Yes. Tech company really listens to him. He is in their board meeting, roasting the execs.
3:50, I guess you can say you are back to square one.
So great content Marques. Thx man.
Great video. Thanks for remaining critical of the industry and the companies that you use and benefit from. High integrity and forward pushing.
except apple ofcourse
Yepp
@@mikelay5360what do you mean?
@@matthewbennett5872 He's kinda having a bias when it comes to Apple.
@@matthewbennett5872 water is wet
Really glad you made this video. So important to put this reality out there. It may or may not affect Google at all, but it's so important for consumers to understand this.
Glad you are still willing to talk about potential and real downsides and controversies. It's great that over the years your reviews and videos have always felt trustworthy!
The only thing I could point out is that he rarely does this with Apple, and the same happens with Arun. You can often see videos in which the thumbnail and title tell you right away that it will have a critique or some kind of negative opinion, and those are mostly about Samsung, Google and other companies, but rarely about Apple. And, as I see it, Apple has many more controversial practices and things that not many of their customers are aware about and they almost never talk about it. As an example, while most people I watch outside of the English speaking community were pointing out right away the aspects in wich Apple's faltered, their videos titles were "Better than you think" or "Not just usb-c" kind of defending the product.
Thanks for posting this. This is what we expect!!
Google is the dead beat dad of the internet. That breaks all the promises they make. And tout themselves as the great Disney dad
ZERO chance of Google offering 7yrs of OS Updates. They will offer 3-4 yrs of OS and then a if your lucky a few extra years of security updates
When Apple did major OS updates most times I was surprised that some older phones even got certain updates basically because they were so old. 7 years of updates never was a thing. It just happened. There was never a promise or a pledge. Can you imagine still using a Pixel 8 seven years from now. 😀
I Bet an arm and leg that they won’t stick with their promise lol. They will cancel it and apologize like 3 years from now
I’m still using an iPhone X - that’s 6yrs old. This is the first time I’ve not had a full iOS upgrade (ios17); but I’m still getting updates to iOS 16
@@AWAL602 apple is consisting in this till a couple of years back my wife was getting major upgrade on her 6s
It's crazy to me just because that's 7 years of updates which is nearly as long as the Pixel line has existed. Imagine if you had a Pixel 2 that was running Android 14. Crazy stuff
I'm still using my Samsung S9 from 2017. Still getting those security & OS updates.
I enjoy watching you, guy. Keep going!
Love the way to tell a story, master class skills.
It reminds me of the changes they did in their Google Workspace plan this year. There’s no unlimited anymore, even for enterprises. And that hasn’t been convenient at all!
Acthually
For my company we had to upgrade to a business plus or whatever, and it was more expensive but we got unlimited storage. But maybe you speak only about personal plans?
@@kolkoki
Oh interesting! I didn't know Google was still providing unlimited storage. I checked their website, and interacted with the Google representative. They denied offering unlimited in any plan.
I will check again if they have any personal plan. Meanwhile, we have decided to built our in-house setup. That felt more reliable than Google (strangely).
Oh yesss that’s why we switched to Microsoft.
@@Fireflies817
I shifted my personal files to Jottacloud. Felt like moving out of US was more reliable after Google and Dropbox.
i remember the days of unlimited photos oh boi wtf happened to that it was from my pixel 2 xl days
Companies should be held accountable for their promises if it influences people's buying decisions
No doubt.
And how would that work in real life?
False Advertisement needs to be a thing and start holding companies accountable for not delivering what is promised.
and politicians.
That wont work, the companies lobby politicians to protect themselves from such
Congratulations, Marques on this video! I too watched the Google launch and this thing with 7 years of guaranteed updates, seems to me the best thing offered by such a big company like Google. Super initiative. Since the launch, the Google company has grown in my eyes. Congratulations Google, congratulations Marques!
Thanks for the great vid Marques !
Thanks for doing a video on these topics. You did a great job of pointing out things that people tend to overlook.
I think Google's best comparison to this is their support for Chrome OS support. If they can do it for chromebooks, I don't see why they can't for the pixel.
Chrome browser is very “core” to their business. I would think pixel is too, but less so. Most of the canceled products are side projects.
it‘s not about google being able to do something, it’s about being profitable and thus google willing to do it ..
Laptops with an expiration date is your example of great support?
Chrome OS is basically a chrome browser so it's not a fully fledged OS that would be supported for 7 years.
Because Chrome OS is really just a fork of Google Chrome browser, built on top of Linux.... They can say they support it for 10 years if they want to, or whatever how long the Linux support they are using will last. Pixel is still more of a side project for Google. I remember when Stadia is launched, people points out that Pixel lasts for so long too, then Stadia got killed 2 years later.
Very insightful and informative, Mr. Brownlee.
Well done, excellent video.
Their most ridiculous discontinuation is the Google Measure app. It was so useful!
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Brother you been teaching me a lot over past 2-3 yrs, I’m trying to break/learn tech at 52 and and everyday it’s either good/ bad news confusing at times, but thank you for your support; it keeps me motivated, all the blessing to you brother.
oh BROTHER
I really love your honesty in reviewing... Thank you
Full points for making a super relevant video MKBHD.
The "coming soon" thing I've noticed as well in many reviews, but also in a sense that companies send "pre production units", so when reviewers find software bugs and say xy doesn't work, they'll also say "well this is a pre production unit, so we can't really criticize that issue, MAYBE it will be fixed later"
I'm am a Google Fi customer and I am hoping that they don't kill it. I'm in the military and it is the only wireless provider that I can use overseas with no issues. I think they will keep it since they really aren't their own service, but instead use the services of T-Mobile, Sprint (bought by T-Mobile), and US Cellular.
In India we are expanding in this field with "Air fiber" too. It currently has jio and Airtel, top most whales of India network providers. So when there's a competition and need which is a lot here...it is only going to grow more. the main Target here are people who don't have fibre facilities like industrial areas or rural areas.
Chromecast Audio is my favorite killed project. I still use it daily with Spotify connected to a pair of small studio monitors.
The Deadpool head in the background felt like a sublte but still very funny "sketchy territory" sign, and I loved it 🤣
This was my first thought. Will they keep the promise? 7 years is a very long time. I’d be shocked if they release a security update in the final year of that window.
There won't be many people still using the devices in 7 years, it's kind of a non-issue I think.
They've never walked back on Pixel update support though, even if they tend to discontinue other stuff
@@johchadow
It is lock the customer system. 7 year phone will pass on to some family members and then that family members because new user. 1st user buy same company phone for familiarity.
Apple did that for many year.
the phone won't be usable in 7 years, the battery will be shot, and the hardware won't be able to handle stuff, so it doesn't matter.
@@robotbro7187my iPhone 7+ still runs wonderfully. I can even play decent mobile games. Only reasonable issue is battery, which I can use a power bank for.
7 years is a long time,but how frequently they are able to release updates matters
Thank you Marques👌
Thanks for the info, will definitely re-think before getting the Pixel 8. !
Just gotta say.. thank you and your team for elaborating on soft/hardware.. succinct, well presented, and informative.. triple threat my friend- gratitude
Thank you for this video, we needed it 🙏🏼
I’m a computer engineering student in my junior year. We had someone from Google come talk to us today about internships and I straight up asked him how secure he feels the jobs are with their mass layoffs and how often they kill services. He was kinda at a loss for words but said they do try to move developers to different teams when projects get axed. He clearly loves his job but wasn’t too confidence inspiring about my prospects in an entry level position
That can happen anywhere. Continue learning and developing skills so you'll have a better chance of being moved rather than getting axed.
The biggest benefit of working with Google by far is simply having Google on your CV and using that as a major stepping stone to a bigger role elsewhere and demanding a higher wage. In this case it doesn't really matter if Google axe you when they kill services you work on, as long as you have that reference.
I work at Google. I worry about (not really because I don’t really care if it happens) a project getting axed, but not if I will still have a job. Projects getting my axed at Google is so so so common, it’s a part of the job. You just get switched to a new team.
Not worried about mass layoffs since although the raw number is big (15k employees fired), the percentage isn’t that big imo (6-7% fired). This isn’t much different than jobs outside of tech.
That's a good thought marques, thanks for sharing
forgot GOOGLE PHOTOS and their promise for LIFETIME of unlimited photo storage? replaced with literally nothing.. pay a lot or your photos are dead.
Lol, I had exactly the same reaction: cautiously optimistic, but can't help but be skeptical. This will be really great if they can keep 7 year update support going and it becomes an industry standard, or at least raises the bar to 4+ years of support. I was recently pleasantly surprised that Google Nest gave me free support for my 16+ year old 2nd gen Nest thermostat, no questions asked. Now, that was impressive!
The whole Android 14 update was just 1GB. I think they might be only making slight improvements in coming years. It'll be easier for them to keep pushing updates.
I hope so. I'm tired of the UI getting more and more spread out with every Android version. Like dawg, don't waste my precious screen space 😢
That’s true
Thanks, man! Good and reasonable thoughts
your the best man thanks
Pixel watch 2 on the left wrist 👀 Great video as always! 🙌
I absolutely love the way MKBHD started the video. Literally just slid into his share and got on with it. Sweet!
Really digging the 2 watch scenario. The pixel watch review will come soon I presume...?
Thank you, man. I am 100% with you on this.
Thank you for leading, Marques. I hope more voices in industry speak up about this.
Project Fi user here - The Pixel 1 was my first smartphone I've ever owned. When I first got it I got Google FI with it because it was relatively cheap compared to other carriers. I've used FI with the Pixel 1, and then 3a, then 4, and now 7 and have had no issues. I think that is one of their "golden goose" products that should last.
Great video!
I still have pixel 2 XL and last year I was still receiving security updates. I doubt they will actually support new Android on those phones after the 3rd year, but continue with minor tweaks and security updates which is very doable.
Thank you for posting this video, it will not only educate us but also puts pressure on Google to deliver on this.
I personally think discontinuing an app/subscription is way different than discontinuing software updates. I hope Google delivers this.
Seems to me Google is putting the pressure on other premium Android phones. This also allow Google to continue selling existing Pixels at $100 less than the latest Pixels, just like Apple.
I pre-ordered an 8P based on this promise. Have been by Google since the Nexus 6P. So when I heard about this support, my doubts in Google and desire to switch to iPhone were blown away. But this video just reminded me of the reality I forgot. Sometimes we believe what we want so this was sobering.
I will never preorder agian. Too many issues. Both with customer service and hard tech issues. Good luck, but if it bricks on you after the first few days, just keep your old phone near.
@@morgan13756that’s one thing I like about Apple if your iPhone gets bricked just take to your Apple Store and walk out with a new or fixed iPhone same visit
@@morgan13756I'm trading it in unfortunately but still have an extra OP 7P on standby. I'm giving it some thought but may cancel the preorder. Haven't had issues with preorders with them in the past though. Offering $400 trade-in for a $300 phone and free pixel watch 2, they got me.
Don't worry bro, google isn't going to ditch android updates.
They will deliver on their software support. I can't remember them ever not delivering on this. Enjoy your Phone!
I think that's the problem with large companies (for instance Microsoft) in many times some really good projects are replaced by low graded ones.
You have always been a pro apple boy but, with this video, trying to highlight what's needed, you earned my subscribe back! Good video ❤
It’s always a bit of a gamble how much follow through you get with them. TH-cam, thankfully is still here.
Yuh
They killed TH-cam premium this month in my country :'(
@@MsWouto that’s not good. Which country?
@@rosslmccallum Belgium. They killed TH-cam Premium Lite to be more specific. There is still the full premium, but it's more than 2x the price of Lite.
@@rosslmccallum he's talking about YT Premium Lite for 6,99€. Just got axed in some countries, including his, Belgium.
Marques is always the best. Love these videos. I learn so much.
Good one
Yup, you said that a couple of years ago. Talking about "comming soon"
Isn't this illegal 4:43
Thank you for doing these kind of videos in particular. They really support us, the consumers. :).
Yep, They really do!
Very true and good on him for keep both tech giants in check
That Google Domains and squarespace exchange was hilarious 🤣
valid. let's hope it encourages other companies to increase their updates promises, even if not all the way up to 7 years, but i think 3 should be the bare minimum for a respectable company and most of them should have upwards of 4 years of major updates
Thanks for calling out google. I rely so heavily on google products but always live on the edge of not knowing if i'll be able to use a service. Your reaction to their 7 year promise was the same as mine. No way they will support the phone for so long, in 3 years tops they'll annouce that its going to be the last supported year for the phone and they'll continue to erode the trust of their users.
Trust a multi billion dollar company? Hmm.
While it's one thing to not trust Google for random smaller projects, you have to remember that 1. Google will continue work on Android 2. The Pixels are on their 8th generation. They've shown commitment to the Pixel series, there's no reason they can't support them for another 7 years.
Most probably they will support it for 3-4 years, then make a post with an apology and maybe give you a good deal to trade in that phone for the latest pixel 12-13 or whatever.
@@svm2787hope that happens with pixel 6 pro only a year left of OS update and 2 year security updates left
Get the fairphone 5 if you want those 7+ years of support and updates.
What a great video, thank you for pointing that out! I was shocked how Google could just kill the pixel pass without any compensation. Big trust issue
Edit: people pointing out that Google did hand out a $100 compensation for a new pixel phone + original phone paid off. I didn't know that, thank you.
i got 100 dollars towards a new phone. Not great compensation but something. not to mention i am grandfathered in to the discount for all of the services included.
@@prestonjohnston7800 is that 100 dollars still more than you ever actually paid/contributed to the program? If it's less, then screw Google for the ripping you off. If it's more than yeah it sucks, they still shouldn't have done it, but at least you got more than just your money back. Does that make sense?
That part of this video was slightly misleading. Pixel users had their original phones fully paid off and received $100 in Google store credits.
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Aooaoa
2:35 and that ported library is more inaccessible than TH-cam Music without a membership. Songs take forever to load and show up, and forget about even trying to search for a song, scrolling-long, or sorting by artists or albums. They took arguably the best music player and threw it away, and we've not gotten a single update to the on-device music library.
Thank you for this review. I was considering the phone based on the 7 year promise. Now I’ll think again. You, sir, have my respect for always being so honest
One of the reasons I switched to iPhone and haven’t gone back is the update support. Your phone gets the updates at the same time as newer phones and is supported for way longer. Great if Google can start to do this, but still isn’t perfect since any non Google android phones still get updates way slower and for less total time.
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Unlike scamsung 😂
Same. I went to iPhone after 10+ years with Android. After 8 months on iOS, I’m amazed at how many updates I’ve already received. Even the incremental updates.
Yea you get ALOT of updates like updates that weaken your battery
More than just the updates, the camera on my iPhone 8 broke like six months ago and the Apple store fixed it in 45 minutes. I only had to wait like three days for an appointment and I paid less than $100. Meanwhile, I had to send my 2019 Thinkpad to some random computer store because Lenovo no longer supports my specific laptop and it took them three weeks to replace the battery.
@@seanking4351android does this shit too. Back when I was a Samsung guy my phone would get worse conveniently around March when the new ones came out.
I am very pleased with my A54 i bought the 8GB ram and 256 storage . Samsung offering 4 years of os updates and 5 security was one of the reason also your video on the A54 helped me .. Wish you well
Well said
Well said Bro. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It's like loving and enjoying a great bowl of soup, and then half way through, a server runs up to where you're seated, grabs the bowl of soap away, and drops sandwich in front of you. It's disconcerting to say the least.
Availability of updates was one of the key factors that kept me on iOS and in the Apple ecosystem. Android was always hit and miss. Similar with MacOS, the free updates for years from Apple really enhance the value of the product.
\theres a dedicated community to upgrade your mac to the latest os, Im running ventura on my mid 2010 macbook
@@user-cl6tg6cg4yand people have been using win10 on their 20 years old systems as well. Any system with a even P-III can run it.
For iOS yes Apple has great support but on Mac side it lacks behind.
It’s why I switched to iPhone
What I can remember Apple has never ever promises "this or that many years of OS updates for each new iPhone" but we can look back at their history and see how they've done. That's why we can put "6+" years or whatever it is. 6+ is not a promise from Apple. That's what we can expect based on history. Apple has already proved that they can support phones for really long. Google doesn't have that proven history, at least yet.
Nokia is missing from the summary in this video and I know that Nokia now last years is promising that each phone will get X years of OS updates and X years of security updates. 2-4 years I think. No idea if they keep their promises.
As I see it, Apple is the leader in this area and they don't even promise anything. Apple is the king of building up TRUST, and they do it by delivering and not by promising. This is a big reason why iPhone is selling so good.
Anyone knows how many years of OS updates all previous Google Pixel phones received? Would love to see a summary for all those phones. Maybe it's available on Wikipedia?
Worth noting: the very first iPhone only received 3 years of OS updates, right? Then every new iPhone model got longer OS support and now it's around 6 years. I'm not sure exactly how many years it is.
Here's how I do: I buy an iPhone model that I wanna buy. I use it as long as the battery is okay and the phone itself is okay. When I feel that the battery is no longer good enough so it's a big problem, instead of let someone replace the battery I simply buy a new iPhone and when I buy a new iPhone I get a brand new battery! Every new iPhone for me is kind of s "battery replacement".
After a few years with the same iPhone model, the lastest iOS and the updates apps are heavier for the phone. Everything will run slower, not faster. Maybe some exceptions. So getting a new iPhone also means:
+ faster CPU
+ faster RAM
+ maybe more RAM
+ everything is more powerful
I often wait as long as possible to buy a new iPhone and I buy an affordable model. iPhone SE is a great value product! I know the camera sucks, especially in low-light so good luck to take a photo of the moon at evening/night 😂 but I'm fine with that...
@@cjeeldeits also the fact that their longest supported phones (6s / 7) had puny specs and outdated design compared to today and still got all the updates. Imagine how long they would support something like the 15 / 15 pro with almost m1 macbook level performance and specs. Its possible they support them for 10+ years.
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You are so correct about anything Google…never know when they are going to cancel things.
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What 7 years of software support says to me is that they no longer expect revolutionary updates to Android over that time. Instead it will just be more iterative updates. Obviously that's been pretty clear for a while now, but this is the clearest statement from Google yet about it.
Yeah but to be fair that's what most companies do. Even if you look at Apple, when you update the iphone or Mac it's not that different from before
That's very obvious. Devices are each day depending more on cloud processing, and that doesn't cost performance from the device itself. That's not the future, that's now. Google knows that because they're leading that movement alongside some other big companies. But that's not the point. Even though the device is still good enough for Android 20, will Google commit so many devs to updating Pixel 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14 to the latest Android? I don't think specs are the problem here.
With the advent of ai, in 7 years Android and iOS would become obsolete
What kinda "revolutionary" updates would you even want? Android has been updated for almost 15 years. Its not gonna have a "revolutionary" updates ever again.
@@ninjachrishnot to mention when they restrict some of the new features to newer devices only
Asking whether or not the pixel phones will even be around by that time was a shockingly good question.
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