As one of the only five people alive who own a copy of The Thebaid (Jane Wilson Joyce translation) I am ethically obligated to subscribe with notifications, and binge watch every video on your channel
Amazing video! Poor Kreon's reputation was tarnished by Sophocles, he was regent of Thebes multiple times because of Oedipus's shenanigans, and he gave everything for his city.
Diomedes aristeia, early in the Illiad, is where the poem ramps up, in an unforgettable Homeric scene of murderous mayhem, especially in a good verse translation. He's one Mycenean bad ass.
In a sense, the Trojan Cycle with its weaving of local heroic traditions into the larger historical context related forward by oral poets is like the original MMORPG.@@WanaxTV
They adding Troy and Mycenae to Total War Pharaoh with the map expansion if this helps game enough maybe they can add more playable factions for the Aegean area.
I waited all week with much anticipation for this! 😻😻😻 And I was just revisiting an old movie called Hercules Unchained that only very loosely adapted this chapter of Greek mythology and history. 🧿
You keep talking about Basileuos, while based on yr channel name, I assume you know kings were called wanax in bronze age Greece. Are you referring to kings, or the actual office of bronze age basileus, because this is very confusing (I don't even think historians know what the basileus office really was in that time)
could you please cover ancient thessaly next the politics,states and geographic layout of the place makes it so unique and interesting andit is rarely examined when people go over ancient greece
Apparently the Thebans were installing an autocracy like the Syracusan did with the tyranny, shunning the Achean tradition to have two kings switching their role at the rule, as was, for example, in Sparta to the very end of the classical period. even in classical times, Thebes was ruled by a strict olygarchy, rather then an openly shared government.
Interesting how small those wars were in most cases. In Trow were maximum 1000 chariots (1 per ship) and perhaps 20000 infantry on Greek side. And this was most likely 10 times smaller, even if it was largest war of their generation.
Few regions of this planet have such heritage as Old neolithic bronze and iron age Ellada . Perhaps Egypt Phoenicia Persia India Babylon Mesopotamia.thats it
You clever guy . I just re-warched your phillistines video. And or course you mentioned rebellion of the ionian in Ashdod. Yes the was greek pressence in the late Neo-Assyrian empire. Greek pirates started raids on empires coastlines sometime around 800 bce . And the greek citystates on cyprus was wasals of the assyrians . But there assyrians were clever. Because they noticed that the greeks were fighters. Because those pirates they captured were offered jobs in assyrian army . And home to Greece as wealthy men . That had the effect that many greeks went to assyria to work as merchenaries in assyrian army And the later neo-babylonian empire. But that contact with assyria And babylonia also helped shape ancient Greece as we know . Because the classic hoplite round shield that hoplites used was addapted after the assyrian round shild . Also because of this contact babylonian math, astronomy And knowlege came into greece. When Nabopolassar became king of babylon rebellion and started against the assyrians in 626 bce . He also had greeks in his army that fought against the greeks in the assyrian army. But assyrians were defeated And Nabopolassar founded the neo-babylionian empire. And when his son Nebuchadnezzar the second attacked And destroyed Jerusalem in 587 bce . Where the first jewish temple was also destroyed . Greeks were present in Nebuchadnezzar's army . So greeks played a part in one the events mentioned in the bible
Awesome video for the Seven against Thebes!!! Next chapter: The War of Epigonoi! Where the legend of Diomedes started!
Very possibly coming soon!
Now I want the epigonoi story my friend 😂
Great Presentation
Can’t wait for the Epigoni
No choice now, have to do Epigoni soon.
This reminds me of Jason and the Argonauts.
Excellent video!
I am sure Hypsipyle recounted to the Seven the tale of her hospitality towards the Argonauts and her affair with Jason in Lemnos, years earlier
As one of the only five people alive who own a copy of The Thebaid (Jane Wilson Joyce translation) I am ethically obligated to subscribe with notifications, and binge watch every video on your channel
That’s awesome. Thank you very much! 🫡
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yea well youve been dead for a thousand years bud so there.
Amazing video! Poor Kreon's reputation was tarnished by Sophocles, he was regent of Thebes multiple times because of Oedipus's shenanigans, and he gave everything for his city.
This is one of my favourite myths. I first heard of it when I was play A Total War Saga: Troy as Diomodes.
Total War Troy is awesome! I wish it had more features and characters.
Diomedes aristeia, early in the Illiad, is where the poem ramps up, in an unforgettable Homeric scene of murderous mayhem, especially in a good verse translation. He's one Mycenean bad ass.
In a sense, the Trojan Cycle with its weaving of local heroic traditions into the larger historical context related forward by oral poets is like the original MMORPG.@@WanaxTV
They adding Troy and Mycenae to Total War Pharaoh with the map expansion if this helps game enough maybe they can add more playable factions for the Aegean area.
Been requesting this for a long time. Great video.
Thank you!
Epigonoi = "the following, next generation", the generation that sailed to Troy
Yet another great informative vid 👍 .. thank you very much 🙏
Appreciate it!
Loved the way the video explored the different interpretations of the myth and the impact it had on ancient Greek culture.
I waited all week with much anticipation for this! 😻😻😻
And I was just revisiting an old movie called Hercules Unchained that only very loosely adapted this chapter of Greek mythology and history. 🧿
I hope you like the episode! 👌🏻
Great presentation as always!
Thank you! 🙏
You keep talking about Basileuos, while based on yr channel name, I assume you know kings were called wanax in bronze age Greece. Are you referring to kings, or the actual office of bronze age basileus, because this is very confusing (I don't even think historians know what the basileus office really was in that time)
could you please cover ancient thessaly next the politics,states and geographic layout of the place makes it so unique and interesting andit is rarely examined when people go over ancient greece
I will put Thessaly in the plans. Not sure about when exactly we’ll be able to work on it. Sometime later this year. 👍🏻
Have I ever thanked you for not using AI voice? So many channels do that and it's insufferable.
But a bad accent isn't much better
Apparently the Thebans were installing an autocracy like the Syracusan did with the tyranny, shunning the Achean tradition to have two kings switching their role at the rule, as was, for example, in Sparta to the very end of the classical period.
even in classical times, Thebes was ruled by a strict olygarchy, rather then an openly shared government.
Ah, yes, the reverse Troy, that's how I call it just for fun, hehe.
Amazing
Yes!
BASED
What a disaster for both sides.
Interesting how small those wars were in most cases. In Trow were maximum 1000 chariots (1 per ship) and perhaps 20000 infantry on Greek side. And this was most likely 10 times smaller, even if it was largest war of their generation.
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Few regions of this planet have such heritage as Old neolithic bronze and iron age Ellada . Perhaps Egypt Phoenicia Persia India Babylon Mesopotamia.thats it
Thebes nuts lol
You clever guy . I just re-warched your phillistines video. And or course you mentioned rebellion of the ionian in Ashdod. Yes the was greek pressence in the late Neo-Assyrian empire. Greek pirates started raids on empires coastlines sometime around 800 bce . And the greek citystates on cyprus was wasals of the assyrians . But there assyrians were clever. Because they noticed that the greeks were fighters. Because those pirates they captured were offered jobs in assyrian army . And home to Greece as wealthy men . That had the effect that many greeks went to assyria to work as merchenaries in assyrian army And the later neo-babylonian empire. But that contact with assyria And babylonia also helped shape ancient Greece as we know . Because the classic hoplite round shield that hoplites used was addapted after the assyrian round shild . Also because of this contact babylonian math, astronomy And knowlege came into greece. When Nabopolassar became king of babylon rebellion and started against the assyrians in 626 bce . He also had greeks in his army that fought against the greeks in the assyrian army. But assyrians were defeated And Nabopolassar founded the neo-babylionian empire. And when his son Nebuchadnezzar the second attacked And destroyed Jerusalem in 587 bce . Where the first jewish temple was also destroyed . Greeks were present in Nebuchadnezzar's army . So greeks played a part in one the events mentioned in the bible
Tell me again. How greek this is. 😅 that disinformation tho😅