Fully agree on everything you mentioned Dave, especially going 5 section and a strut on every section on an 18x8. Also 15” radius or more if there is room for it to make it run that much better. We do mainly Clopay and on 18’s it’s a strut on every section from factory.
Thank you Wayne, and you folks who have participated in this discussion, for some helpful information. As to ‘Struts’ however, I am still not clear. What are they and how do they work? I think my original perception of their role and function was quite out to lunch. Thanks for any clarification you can offer.
The garage door is the biggest opening inn your house don't go cheap out on your door. defiantly 5 sections and struts on every section. and I would do a sandwich door.
I know Raynor and Midland door companies can put 3 windows in an 18' door. The problem is stiles on the inside will limit you to the smaller square windows so that it fits in-between the 2 center stiles. when it comes to residential doors, the 8' tall doors should be 5 panels tall, 1@21'' and 4@18''. This is so a roller will always be in the transition "curve" of the top rail. It allows for smooth operation. On a few commercial doors i had to use 12'' radius track, standard on residential, and the taller panels of commercial, 21'' and 24'', left one roller coming straight down while the next roller was still moving straight forward. It made the door move up snd down really rough. It creates a lot of stress on the top panel as the operator pushs on it. Definitely strut each section and if higher cycle springs are available, buy them. Call a professional door company for help with this. I haven't seen any lumber yard anywhere have someone who is technically proficient enough to handle this.
Ya I wouldn't cut windows in on that my guess is evenly spacing 3 windows out would probably result in cutting thru a stile unless you use o.h.d or Amar that put backer metal horizontally
I believe with the Wayne Dalton 8300 and 8500 you should be fine. It’s just a piece of Styrofoam with two pieces of metal glued to it on both sides lol. I know the do add a second layer of steel where the hinges go and I believe do offer A continuous strip if you’re going to mount your hinges in your own location.
@@affordabledoorgatellc7391 Thanks. We’re finally starting to get somewhere. FYI: I am not building this door. I just need to know what I’m ordering, and who to get it from, way up here in the north. We are building in Kelowna, BC (Canada), the provincial wine capital (or so I’m told).
Struts are the metal support bars that span the length of the whole garage door. At a minimum there's usually one strut at the very top of the door, to prevent the top section from folding in half due to the opener pulling on it. Wider doors require more struts, otherwise the panels will bow downwards when the door is open and cause creases or rips in some doors.
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Fully agree on everything you mentioned Dave, especially going 5 section and a strut on every section on an 18x8. Also 15” radius or more if there is room for it to make it run that much better. We do mainly Clopay and on 18’s it’s a strut on every section from factory.
Good idea on the 15” radius track if you have the room.
Thank you Wayne, and you folks who have participated in this discussion, for some helpful information. As to ‘Struts’ however, I am still not clear. What are they and how do they work? I think my original perception of their role and function was quite out to lunch. Thanks for any clarification you can offer.
The garage door is the biggest opening inn your house don't go cheap out on your door. defiantly 5 sections and struts on every section. and I would do a sandwich door.
Steel on steel baby
@@RichB0330 Hi Rich. Did you mean, “Definitely”, ‘Defiantly’, or both?
I know Raynor and Midland door companies can put 3 windows in an 18' door. The problem is stiles on the inside will limit you to the smaller square windows so that it fits in-between the 2 center stiles. when it comes to residential doors, the 8' tall doors should be 5 panels tall, 1@21'' and 4@18''. This is so a roller will always be in the transition "curve" of the top rail. It allows for smooth operation. On a few commercial doors i had to use 12'' radius track, standard on residential, and the taller panels of commercial, 21'' and 24'', left one roller coming straight down while the next roller was still moving straight forward. It made the door move up snd down really rough. It creates a lot of stress on the top panel as the operator pushs on it. Definitely strut each section and if higher cycle springs are available, buy them. Call a professional door company for help with this. I haven't seen any lumber yard anywhere have someone who is technically proficient enough to handle this.
Great advise. Thank you.
Ya I wouldn't cut windows in on that my guess is evenly spacing 3 windows out would probably result in cutting thru a stile unless you use o.h.d or Amar that put backer metal horizontally
I believe with the Wayne Dalton 8300 and 8500 you should be fine. It’s just a piece of Styrofoam with two pieces of metal glued to it on both sides lol. I know the do add a second layer of steel where the hinges go and I believe do offer A continuous strip if you’re going to mount your hinges in your own location.
@@affordabledoorgatellc7391 Thanks. We’re finally starting to get somewhere. FYI: I am not building this door. I just need to know what I’m ordering, and who to get it from, way up here in the north. We are building in Kelowna, BC (Canada), the provincial wine capital (or so I’m told).
For an 18' door id always go with 3 inch struts especially on a pan door. 5 struts for a 7 footer and 6 struts for an 8 footer
@@TBHD724 I still don’t have my answer. What are “STRUTS”.
THANKS!
Struts are the metal support bars that span the length of the whole garage door. At a minimum there's usually one strut at the very top of the door, to prevent the top section from folding in half due to the opener pulling on it. Wider doors require more struts, otherwise the panels will bow downwards when the door is open and cause creases or rips in some doors.
@@TBHD724 THANK YOU! Precisely the answer I was looking for.