Kitsune, Gumiho, Huli Jing: Asian Fox Spirits and Their Differences
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- How do the Kitsune, Gumiho, and Huli Jing differ? Differences between the folklore of Asian fox spirits.
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Which is your favorite? Kitsune, gumiho, huli jing?
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Gumiho for me!
This is all I've been about these days XD what i know already, i have to say huli jing are my favorite mostly because they're not usually seen as evil blood suckers or malicious tricksters and have very decent (and cute) stories, at least those i've read. Also, i've been very intrigued with the idea that they are seen as an in between demons and humans and the idea that all living beings strive to be humans if not immortal. Idk if you've mentioned this in your past videos too but it is also believed Tame no mae was the same fox spirit, consort Daji, that brought the Shang Dynasty to ruin by seducing the emperor Zhou of Shang
@@cakertaker_1013 yeah the Daji -> Tamamo no Mae lore does exist. It also says she became other figures in other stories. I don't think the original stories had that intent though.
5:48 Nyarlathotep
Yes.
“If you stopped counting at the same time you started it’s a normal fox”
Every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes.
Lets play spot the difference dwnm this is hard oh we both have the iq of 4
Stop reuseing idiot comments for likes it’s too old
@@randomfish2054 maybe learn to spell before insulting someone ^^
@@ghostwas_here STFU
@@randomfish2054 just stop kid
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My fox waifu divorced me last year on the 23rd of November and turned back into my best friend
Shinano best floof
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The reason the foxes associated with Inari are considered benevolent is likely because the main food for foxes is small mammals. If you are a society that relies on storing grains then things like rats and mice are a very large problem. So the presence of animals that eat them would be seen as a blessing. Like cats in Egypt or cobras in India.
that was the thing with what was mentioned before about japan already having their own fox beliefs before being influenced by china (especially since their beginning religions was animism and shinto), i remember reading that it was related to how foxes would eat the vermins and rodents detrimizing their fields so ofc they would begin to worship them in someway like you said. Now that i think about it, i'm pretty sure the negative/mischievous connotations related to kitsune now mostly came from china correct me if i'm wrong
Makes sense
Snakes also had that divine messenger role in the ancient Hellenic world, probably due to similar reasons.
The myths all around the world that portray foxes as cunning comes from the ancient Egyptian god "set", which was the god of cunning, trickery, chaos, disorder and envy. He was portrayed as a jackal and a fox in Egyptian arts. Egypt simply exported its religious beliefs to other parts of the world.
@@ilovecoffee7623 well at least all we can say is that art of him portray him as an ambiguous looking creature that lookis like a cross between an aardvark and a jackal
As a Chinese this is spot on. We are the big brother no one asked for!
😂
Same, I'm a Chinese. Who's with me?
and Britain is the younger/toddler sibling that no one asked for lol
@@ghostwas_here Neh, Britain is more like the distant cousin that literally NO ONE asked for
Wouldn't Britain be the bullying big brother that eventually when the younger siblings grew up finally kicked his ass? (USA perspective)
Dogs can sense them? No wonder Inuyasha was always on Shippo’s case.
🤣😂
Well in nature😆😆 dogs hunts foxes so I guess there is "not getting along" relationship between a dog and a fox
😅😅😅
@@ladycommentor2536 Actually, a fox is a feline's soul trapped inside a canine's body, they are also solitary animals, so when it comes to dogs they usually don't get along just like cats don't get along with dogs most of the time.
@@brianyim5006 😆😆😆nice
This explains why the fox at work keeps taking my pizza delivery. Crafty she is.
Oof that's a crime of the highest order.
I was eating Pizza reading this- I think this may have been ur Pizza
I don’t like that the pfp of this comment is a creepy old white dude
@@noluckdoberman715 that's kinda rude
Even the fox spirits know that pizza is delicious.
The Huli Jing is associated with a specific martial weapon: the Huli Hoop.
Interesting 🤔
woah cool
Don't you mean, "the hula hoop"? I tried searching huli hoop, but I could not get anything like with hula hoop.
@@warrenbradford2597 Yes, I do. I was making a pun based on hoop as a trope in Wuxia cinema and combining it with the Wamo supertoy.
Ah yes. The legendary ring of something something soul.
Or the super awkward flying scenes that make me wanna cri.
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im here
Haha
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Also... Did I just make a BNHA reference and a Touhou one in one comment?
Fellow 2hu fan here
"Why do I hear boss music? And why does it have midi trumpets?"
2:11 The good Kitsune are called Zenko and serve gods. Rather than tricking humans, they are nice to them. The evil Kitsune are called Yako and they're usually those tricksters. When a Kitsune reaches 1000 years of age and grows its ninth tail, it turns into a Tenko, a godlike fox (Tenko are the most "elite" of the Kitsune, kinda like how corporate workers with the most experience get promoted to higher ranks). This may have been derived from the Huli Jing belief presented at 5:26. Tamamo no Mae might have been a Tenko because she was insanely powerful, had nine tails and golden fur (a Tenko's trademark feature is indeed golden fur). Judging from her nature, she must have been born as a Yako.
For the Zenko point you mentioned, the Senko San anime is an example of a good fox who helps people. Thus, the name is also a play on the trope.
As for Yako, the bad fox, the character from the show Toilet Bound Hanako Kun, fits the bill for a bad fox who tricks people.
While it's just a reference, it does add up to the mythical points about the kitsune.
Yako sounds like yakko and there's a samurai named yakko edobei whiches is acted by otani oniji who was painted by sharaku which animal Crossing called the painting scary painting and I'm scared of the painting
Meh. I prefer the Nasuverse background for Tamamo, where she's an incarnation of Amaterasu, who got falsely blamed and killed because "fox spirit...she must be responsible!"
Zenko Ranks from highest -> Lowest: Kuuko, Tenko, Senko. Different colors of Zenko: Kinko, Ginko, byakko/shirogitsune aka Myobu, Kokuko/kurogitsune. There are apparently 2 earthly fox ranks that both Zenko and Yako can attain which are Chiko and Ashireiko.
Ashireiko are apparently young foxes in the first 100 years of their life and look like ordinary non-magical foxes. After 100 years they rank up to Chiko, which are clearly magical. Yako are unable to pass the Chiko stage due to their wickedness, while Zenko are able to surpass it and become Senko at around 500 years. Senko becomes a Tenko at 1000 years, Tenko becomes a Kuuko at 3000 years.
@@clarehidalgo Actually, Tenko are higher in rank than Kuuko because Kuuko are retired and Tenko still serve Inari.
Fun gumiho story I read as a child!
I think the title was "fox sister", where the fox shapeshifted into a baby girl (as in newborn baby) and acted like a child that was thrown away, in front of this family's house
The house wasn't that wealthy, and they didn't have neighbors either
The family had two sons, and they were happy to have a daughter
The daughter grew up and everything was alright, until they noticed their livestock was dying one by one
The family blamed the main character, the younger brother for not taking good care of the livestock and as punishment he was ordered to stay up all night to guard the livestock
He fell asleep, and he was waken by the noise of his sister shoving her hands up one of the cow' anus, then pulling out its liver, and eating it.
(Gumihos are commonly known for eating livers more than hearts, at least for me and my family)
He pretended to be asleep of course to save his own life
The next day he told the family what he saw but as they loved all their children, they defended their daughter
One day our main character returns home from work to find his sister ate his parents and his brother's liver and they were all dead
I can't remember the exact story, but his brother or someone outside the house gave him three magic marbles or balls? To help him defeat the fox
He eventually killed his sister, i can't remember how exactly though, it's been a while since i heard that story :(
Another short fun one i read when i was 10 or something i think
There once was a hard working handsome farmer, and he was going to get married to his beautiful future bride
He went to the mountains/forest to get some wood, and on the way he returned he met a beautiful women asking him to stay for the night as it was dark and dangerous
He gladly accepted, no they did not have seggs this is a children's book calm down
He woke up in the middle of the night to find her sharpening a kitchen knife with nine tails and sharp claws, when he got caught she ran at him, but he managed to shut the door tightly one of her taiks got stuck
So he ran back home and lived a normal life
And then his marriage day happened
When he was about to meet his bride, instead of one, he saw two arguing who was the real one
They asked him to choose, and as he was trying, he saw one of the bride's dress was a bit torn on the ends
He stabbed that bride and revealed it was a fox, it ran away as the town tried to catch it and he happily got married with his real wife
Again, this was years ago, so i do not remember the exact story but it was fun
you heard that story when you were a child? D:
@@MegaMegajennifer yup! Good times
if i remember correctly, the balls had certain elements to them, a red ball created fire, the blue created water and green created vines.
@@frogsyndrome7500 i thought the fire was blue...
Wait a minute... So in Chinese Mythology, a Huli Jing could have up to 1000 tails? I never heard that. It's kind of terrifying and amazing as well.
From what I've read huli jing is supposed to be a bit more sexual, kitsune is sort of like a very powerful, but mischievous imp, and the kumiho is the most like a "monster."
There's evil huli jing and good huli xian. There's both female and male. They along with snake spirits (she jing) have some of the most beautiful human forms. (So you know heavy on sexualization) The evil ones usually hunts human by seducing them first.
@@thatasiangirl0_039 Say are there male Huli Jing who seduce women?
I see Ahri, I click
That's a good thing Ahri is in the thumbnail and an example of a gumiho
LOWKEY, i thoguht i was the only one who loved ahri
AHRI STANS ARE MISSING 😭
In japan we have a word for the fox spirits 妖狐 pronounced youko . But kitsune 狐 just means fox.
Youka sounds like yakko which makes me think of yakko edobei (」ﾟﾛﾟ)｣ᴺᴼᴼᴼᴼᴼ
Ouh thanks for that information
@Oishi Kohi Yokai is 妖怪, which means monsters
In Chinese, we call it 妖狐 (yaohu) too, 九尾狐 (jiuweihu, nine tails fox) is one kind of them. We also have 狐仙, which is god fox, it is a good one i think
@@zhangshawn2357 uhhh what that's last word means???
Thanks for this explanation. I'm writing a fantasy right now and I wanted to include multiple fox-like humanoid species each with subtle differences. This has helped me greatly in diversifying the races.
Yo dude same hear
Kitsune is my favorite magical animal
my fav is a Hu li Jing and my fav animal is the Hu Li or I guess the kitsune
Ireland has one too. They're called sionnach. Like the Hoshi no tama they carry. And due to an educated guess since they share the name as the Goddess of wisdom Sionna there is a possibility they could be associated with her much like Inari's kitsune
I looked into it also. I believe Sionnach was also considered the Goddess of foxes specifically. They also seem to be associated with Brigid somewhat. Sionnach Sidhe are eerily similar. Energy pearl, shapeshifting abilities, vast knowledge, and clairvoyance are some of the qualities of the Sionnach. Information on them seems to be very hard to come by though. There are similar fox spirits in a variety of Native North American and South American folklores. Although extremely rare, there are people in the United States and Canada whom have claimed to see fox spirits in modern times. My cousin and I saw something while visiting Canada back in 2005, and I have only recently figured out what it might have been. I'm pretty positive it was a kiko.
Some more information on the Hulijing :)
9-tailed foxes can transform into a woman at the age of fifty, as said. At 100 years old, it becomes a beauty or a female shaman (as said), and aso becomes very farsighted and can know about something that is happening a thousand miles away. At a thousand years old, the fox connects with the Sky and becomes a Heavenly Fox (Tianhu 'skyfox'), gets canonized by the Heavenly Court, and obtains the Immortal rank.
Hulijing also gains wisdom by swallowing treasures of Heaven and Earth, finding a good place to work at self improvement, or following a Taoist monk or wise person to learn abilities. Foxes are the Yin element(?), and they need a lot of 'Yin air' (阴气, yinqi) containing the moon's essence to work at self improvement, which is why sometimes they are depicted as worshiping the moon.
Every 100 years, it is said, a major natural disaster happens. If a Hulijing could go through it smoothly, it will grow a new tail. The reason why there are so few hulijing is attributed to the fact that many foxes are not perseverant in their self-cultivation and wisdom gaining.
I never knew they had balls too, though, thought it was only a kumiho/kitsune thing.
7:30 lol this rhymes :)
thank you.
Fun Fact: In Cookie Run, there exists a Cookie called "Kumiho Cookie" as that the game was made in Korea. However, it's pet is Fox Bead, which is based on the Energy Ball. Kumiho Cookie's power is to seduce Bear Jellies to attract (in this case, Magnetize) to Kumiho Cookie like actual Kumihos.
Also, nice use of Ran Yakumo from Touhou in the thumbnail 😏
That’s why I clicked on the video. I wanted to get a better idea of what Kumiho cookie was based on
I'm kind of disappointed that he used a kimono instead of a hanbok
@@thatonecubchoo1541 Same Here Bro
Heyyy, I also play cookie run! My fave character is Kumiho Cookie 😊😊😊
The Kitsune actually also has a ball, It's called a Hoshi no Tama (Starball) and is said to hold the Kitsune's power.
So that's where you get the Tama name Tamamo
It's nine-tailed fox, not Kitsune. Kitsune is what Japanese people call it. The fox spirit comes from China. It is called Huli jing. Nine-tailed fox is called Jiu wei hu in Chinese
Japan copied many things from China. I don't know what hoshi no tama is. I only know fox spirit from China
@@Yangpeiling-de-zhangfu You know you had a problem with where it's not even the topic here.
@@Yangpeiling-de-zhangfu When I say Kitsune in this context I obviously mean the Japanese fox spirit. If I said Huli Jing I'd mean the Chinese one, and if I said Gumiho I'd mean the Korean one.
Warning: the stone reportedly being the body of Tamamo-no-Mae has recently split. Please be prepared for a 900-ish year old kitsune. Thank you.
th-cam.com/video/FenM-LMFlV8/w-d-xo.html this was how the rock was broken
I saw fox girls, and my clicking finger did the rest!
Just like my right hand
wanna take better look at the one at 5:32, look up my girlfriend is a gumiho
@@munensuno8792 I feel like i get the joke, but i'm not sure i wish to contribute to it lol
Sir-
Your advice about doing the tatoos is so true
I did read "Strange Tales from a Chinese Studio" by Pu Songling (XVIII century chinese collection of supernatural tales). That book contains an absolute shit-ton of huli jing stories and very fun and enjoyable to read. So, judging by that book, there was as many male werefoxes as female. And not all of them was malicious. There was stories about genuine love between a man and a fox girl, they was married had children, grow old and died together. There was even a rumors about some famous talented people in old China, that they was descendants of huli jing. In some stories, people befriended with foxes and helped each other. There was, of course, also tales of malicious foxes, that drained the lifeforce out of people to make themselves immortal and eternally young (common huli jing only lived as much as humans). And it was not only female foxes who feed on the men's lifeforce, but also male foxes similarly seducing women.
Reynard the fox
Ran in the thumbnail makes me tap this video as fast as possible. wtf
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@@evangraham YES
Me too
Zun must loves foxes since couple friendly kitsunes (one of the got awfuly beaten up for her friendlines by the local shrine maiden), Ran whom a fox in the fox servent, and Junko who presumably a full fledged heavenly fox, he shows through his games and stories.
I still wonder how a fox gets hijaked another fox like that though.
Thanks to touhou 18 now there are three,the third one is Tsukasa
@@winter2888 , more like 6 as far I can count.
I shail publish (or post on on a site) my drawing of them, there all of them do the Konga line...
I clicked IMMEDIATELY when I saw Ran Yakumo
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5:32 Didn't expect to see My Girlfriend is a Gumiho in this vid. Hadn't seen that show in ages!
man i love ran yakumo in the thumbnail
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There's a story in Japan and China of an emperor causing unrest by making bad decisions on behalf of a consort. In both the stories I know the blame is shifted onto the consort, claiming she is a kitsune/huli jing. This shows the mistrust of women in power and the infalibility of imperial families. Despite the emperor making the decisions, they are considered the victim.
Can confirm.
However, it's not the same story, as you make it sound like.
In China, the story is called the Investiture of the Gods and it's about the consort Daji, who the stories say was a fox spirit sent by a goddess to seduce the last Shang dynasty emperor and distract him from court affairs because he acted lecherous towards her or something.
Idk about the Japanese case.
Also, just in general, if a woman distracts an emperor from his courtly duties, then she's called a huli jing (huli = fox, jing = spirit).
Love hearing old folklore from Japanese culture. Keep it up Linfamy.
@@Linfamy @Linfamy thanks for actually replying 🤗🤗
@@aayushkulkarni1424 What does this have to do with Japan? The fox spirit comes from China. Its origin comes from China
@@Yangpeiling-de-zhangfu I didn't know that, thanks for correcting me
It's based on Chinese mythology.
It's like Greek mythology, it's Greek in origin ,others are juts copiers
Thanks for pointing out the 100-year tail inconsistency. I think that if a fox spirit were to gain the peak of its power at 1000 years, -and- get its ninth tail at the same time, it would have to start growing tails at 300 years old.
"big brother that no one asked for... " LOL so true!!
There's another K-drama which has a much more traditional depiction of a gumiho, not the modern fanciful depiction popularized by anime. Grudge: The Revolt of Gumiho (2010). The elements of a deceptive fox marrying a human, wanting to become human, liver eating, and killing (lots of killing) are jumbled up a bit, but it's all in there. it's a tragedy, so don't watch it expecting to feel good at the end. It's almost horror, but told from the POV of the killer (the gumiho) as the protagonist (her kills are motivated by revenge).
you lured me in with Ran, sold me with Ahri. Wow. Also I'm pretty sure I watched this before, odd.
OMG U USED RAN YAKUMO AS THE KITSUNE PICTURE
Funny how she's not actually a Kitsune, she's a Shikigami spirit who possessed a Kitsune in order to have a physical body. Ran and the Kitsune she possessed are two beings. Same goes for Chen and her Bakeneko body.
@@joannamysluk8623 what I love the most about Ran is that she does complex Math as a hobby.
@@joannamysluk8623 wow
@@herrmota YO. CIRNO AND RAN SHOULD MEET EACH OTHER.
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You forgot to mention Vietnam's fox spirit, the hồ ly tinh. Come on, we need the whole East Asian family together.
It is a copy pasta from china
does Vietnam even have fox to begin with?
I though Vietnam is in Southeast Asia .-.
Vietnam is in Southeast Asia
@@animefun1742 @Daniel Alexander
Vietnam was traditionally part of East Asia, which is the Sinosphere. It only became part of South East Asia after the French conquered Vietnam and wanted to separate it permanently from China.
Interesting 🤔
Edit: i didn’t know that other Asian cultures had fox spirits
yup!
ohoho a redditor i see? you bring the edit note with you to youtube, huh?
@@neon6341 probably a good thing.
Vietnamese culture had foxes spirits too, but they don't take much of the important part, just seem like ppl put them there for fun.
Wait I didn’t know I existed?! Or-
I only clicked because of Ran Yakumo in the thumbnail but the video being interesting is what made me keep watching.
I'm fairly certain that the fox pearl that gumiho carry is somehow associated with 여의주 cintamani wish-stones from Buddhism and possibly Taoism, where orbs are often sources of knowledge and power.
When one swallows a gumiho's yeouiju pearl, it's written that you should face the sky so you can absorb knowledge of the cosmos and heaven, but boy who's tale is mentioned in the video was flipped over and stuck looking at the ground and so he only gained geomantic knowledge of earth - which was still powerful in its own right.
There's also other legends of a giant two or three headed gumiho that I believe originate from Jeju island, which has a lot of wacky mythology compared to the rest of the Korean peninsula. Thanks for covering this!
ran yakumo in the thumbnail 💪💪
In Korean myth and legend, fox which live over 1000years called '매구(Maegu)'. Before the word' Gumiho' was being famous, all of fox spirits called as 'Maegu', '백여우(Baek yeowoo(white fox))', '불여우(Bul yeowoo(fire fox))', '흑여우(Heuk yeowoo(black fox))'. By myth and legends, magical foxes were called 'Maegu' regardless of the number of tails.
It is the nine-tailed fox of Chinese mythology, not you Koreans, who stole Chinese mythology.
Whew. That was close I was getting bored; ty Lin
O/
10/10 would recommend being an editor. You get awesome Kitsune powers!
The nine-tailed fox is a myth originated in China. The Classic of Mountains and Seas, an ancient Chinese book, records that there is a tribe called Qingqiu in northern China, and they take the nine-tailed fox as their totem. Qingqiu Kingdom is between Shandong and Liaoning Province in China en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_spirit
Excellent video!😁👍
Me after seeing Ran Yakumo in the thumbnail: my time has come
I see Touhou, i click
Early for a new Linfamy vid.
Woohoo
Pretty good coverage of the topic,
There's types of kitsunes too they all have different powers and this video helped a lot because I'm trying to summon a kitsune
Everybody is talking about the anime he used and referenced in the video. Nobody mentioned the stills from "My Girlfriend is a Gumiho", my favorite K-drama. Give it a watch.
How dare you!? Touhou is not an anime!
@@kalimatronix I was under the impression that anime referred to animated characters in general, regardless of the medium (cartoon, video game, etc.). For instance I heard people call anime even vocaloids like Hatsune Miku. If I'm mistaken, I stand corrected.
@@kalimatronix I mean technically the 2nd one is also from a Video game not an Anime
@@Rick-kq2jt didn't knew
@@kalimatronix to be fair she is considered to be one of the more anime like characters in the game
So a bit of caveat. "Kitsune" in old Japanese may not be referring to fox per se, but to any small or medium sized mammals.
Similar to how the word "wani" [鰐] or Alligator in modern Japanese could mean sea serpents or sharks in old Japanese.
Cool story! And you used the map of joseon at its peak, kinda cool! Haha
much thanks, Linfamy
thanks for watching!
Their similarity is that they're in a furry's fantasy
im in
Ran Yukumo's (left one in the thumbnail) theme called «Necro-Fantasy» but she's not actually a Kitsune or an any other animal youkai.
You don't even know what a furry is. Stfu
@@TheFinalKnight1 ???
What makes furries pervert is a human who has weird-kind fet*sh like.. u know. Wearing fox or wolf costume or add cute dog ears and a tail or playing some roles🤣🤣
Furries were once used to entertain people (especially kids) but because of some weird people (and maybe pedo) used furries as a fet*sh and make them dirty😌😌
Linfamy challenges Overly Sarcastic Productions in the "adorable drawing of horrible monsters" department.
Mildly educational + cute monsters. My favorite kind of channel.
Great Content
Your channel is great and you too, i hope you publish more videos.
You are great too ;)
🇯🇵 kitsune (狐) - just mean fox
🇰🇵🇰🇷 Kumiho (구미호 - 九尾狐)
九 - ku, kyu, jiu - nine
尾 - mi, bi, mei - tail
狐 - ho, hu - fox
🇨🇳🇹🇼 Huli Jing (狐狸精)
狐 - Kitsune, fox
狸 - Tanuki, Raccoon
精 - Spirit
China also has 九尾狐 (Jiu Wei Hu) from the Classic of mountains and seas, which was compiled in the 4th century BC.
Hi Linfamy!! Can you make a video about wolf symbolism in japanese culture and religion? It seems that in pop culture such as in Sekiro or Princess Mononoke, wolves have great relevance or importance. I don't know if it is something from nowadays or if wolves are in great steem in shintoism and buddhism. I can only remember the Ainu venerating wolves, but I can't tell from other places from Japan
Yes Amaterasu from Okami and/or Kamui/muy, the golden wolf? Amaterasu is the sun god(de)(ss) and Okami means host(ess), hair, wolf and god? Guess they are puns and strung together synchronistically?
@TheSapphicCollective
The word for wolf is Ōkami, and its etymology is "great god." The other words you mentioned sound similar, but are not cognates (related).
“Do enough of these flowjobs and they can even gain immortality.”
WHY YOU GOTTA DO ME LIKE THAT MAN?
good move to hire an editor ^^
I'm watching this just to understand the background on the history behind Ji-Ah's powers in Lovecraft Country.
4:23 You correct *Pythagoras*
Me: wait Greece has kitsune?
Hera abode Everest: Ναί
your mini maps for the three countries are interesting,
especially for korea as it seems it's for the historical kingdoms current korea derived from.....
Love that thumbnail xD
We have "foxes" (translated as "musang" in Malay) on Borneo, but those "foxes" usually refers to the Flying foxes and certain species of civets(a feliforme, not even a canine). There are no taxonomically correct foxes on Borneo(especially since the island is not part of mainland Asia)
I'm afraid only some bears, tigers and a crocodiles are spiritual to us, not the smaller creatures(aside from arthropods like spiders and Centipedes)
Thx for the info
Your videos are very interesting =) new suscriber
Welcome! First rule of the channel is you must sacrifice a pokemon.
Another fun fact about kitsune spirits are that after 1000 years, the kitsune spirit gains its 10th tail and becomes what's known as a "Tenka," or "Celestial Fox". After which if the spirit decides, they can become one of Inari Okami's divine messenger foxes by discarding their tails for 3 white/golden tails that shine brightly and white fur, as the white fur is a symbol of divine messengers. These kitsune spirits are especially powerful.
Another quick note is that a nine-tailed kitsune normally is called "kyuubi no kitsune," meaning "nine-tailed fox," (kyuu meaning 9, bi meaning tail). So you could say sanbi no kitsune to refer to a three-tailed kitsune. A lot of the trickster backstory for foxes come from rice farmers blaming foxes for the destruction of their rice fields when in reality, the foxes were merely hunting there for animals that were eating the crops. Some of these foxes were even known to have become Inari Okami's spirits and also why foxes became associated with Them in the first place for protecting what Inari Okami presides over.
Source: An ordained Konkokyo priestess
Thanks for the trivia Da Ji, interestingly enough when the Huli Jing gets their 9 tails they're called jiuweihu 九尾狐 which share the same characters as kyūbi 九尾.
I see Ran Yakumo. I click.
Oh dang a Touhou girl in the thumbnail.
As a Korean, I think it is interesting to know about fox spirits that are not the Gumiho
Oh interesting, Ara from Elsword has a Gumiho spirit (I dont remember the details), which make sense since is a Korean game, but I never really though of that much, especially because being a while since I stoped playing that game XD But was able to transform and I remember her have the white tails with red details on her face.
Also I though would have mentions of Da Ji on this video, since you commented about Tamamo.
Everybody gangsta until touhou fans appear because they saw "ran yakumo" In the thumbnail (the Japan one)
The funny thing she isn't a Kitsune
@@kalimatronix oh ok.......
Wait......
*WHAT* !!!!
@@gabrielg1055 she's a Shikigami
@@kalimatronix She's both. She's a kitsune that became the shikigami of a more powerful youkai. Yukari is just that stupidly OP.
Came here for ahri
Yes! I was hoping you'd do a video on this after the Lovecraft Country episode which features Gumiho.
I love how you explain things, I'm starting a petition to have your work used in schools!
U actually put in Ahri!
*Everyone:* OMG! Touhou!
*Me:* I mean... Fried tofu is alright but I don't get the big hype...
Touhou is extremely underrated outside Japan and you won't ever heard anyone talking about the series or know about it. So when bigger youtubers make something Touhou related is a very big deal for them
Touhou ain't popular outside of Japan
@@niichigary8609 the comments are infested with touhou fans in every comment section of any video that includes time stopping and fox people
@@arthur.uk.29duhd8ejd3 that sounded more like Jojo fan and Naruto fan, they're just like the other fandoms, inserting some Touhou things are the only way to attract them
I have never tried Fried tofu, maybe I should try it.
love the fox stories :)
Thank you =)
Bwahaha Flow jobs lolol yes
😅
Ah yes my favorite history Channel
Ah yes my favorite type of comments ;)
I see Ran-Shama in thumbnail, I clicked this video
Your videos are lit!, i love them ! you give so much information to create actual cool , fresh and dark stories hehe i want to know more about kitsunes! and other mitological creatures like wolf, dogs, cats and raccoons
I love 9 Tailed Fox look is Ahri is so beautiful your take it my Heart Thank you Linfamy
i saw ran yakumo lol
ooh me too
@@Linfamy is touhou fan confirmed
me, instantly clicking the video after seeing ran yakumo : *_i am speed_*
*eating popcorn while watching this*
RAN YAKUMOO ✨ ♥️ never clicked this fast HAHSHA
Interesting to learn more about fox myths. Fox's are my favorite animals.
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I just had to comment that although Huli Jing (狐狸精）does mean 'Fox Spirit' in mandarin, the more accurate term is Jiu Wei Hu （九尾狐) "nine-tailed fox".
The former is used to refer to a foxy lady (the sexy kind) and the latter refering to the demon spirit kind.
I know the kitsune but i didnt know about the gumiho and the huli jing until i saw this video. My mind is blown by this.
Nice , Ran Yakumo in the thumbnail
I find it interesting that in some European folk tales also regard the fox as tricky and clever but there's no shape shifting, afaik.
True, and calling someone a "fox" means they're clever or sexy. I wonder if there was a connection in the past.
In many first people's of North America, coyote takes over the trickster role
@@Linfamy Maybe it sprang from people seeing the way foxes behaved?
@@jeanfalconer6377 do foxes behave in a sexy way? 🤔
@@eacalvert Wow, neat😀
What do these ancient people have against women? How are almost all fox spirits women AND Evil?
(Probably because the people making these stories weren't allowed a third time in the bedroom. But what do you think?)
I'm going to blame the Chinese influence. They had some interesting views on women.
A lot of ancient peoples were pretty discriminative against women. China wasn't much different in that respect.
That said, the foremost example of the Huli Jing was pretty up there in terms of evil. Daji (as she is depicted in the Feng Shen Yan Yi/ Investiture of the Gods) was a pretty horrific individual. In the story, she is tasked by Nuwa, humanity's mother goddess, to end the Shang Dynasty after its last king had desecrated her residence. She was tasked with making the king's life a living hell, but in the end went way overboard and didn't succeed the latter part of her task until the very end. Daji ends up conceiving new ways of torturing people for her amusement, while murdering people at a whim. She quickly plunges the Shang into civil war, with even the divine taking part. By the end, thousands had died and suffered, ending with Nuwa punishing Daji for all the unnecessary suffering she caused.
@@ericwang565 Right. Didn't mean to imply China was unique in that regard. I just meant their lore about the huli jing being untrustworthy women was probably the origin and it spread to the other cultures.
@@ericwang565 Interesting story!!!! Are there anymore? Can you tell me a specific source for such stories? Like a book?
@@priyanshujanrao7710 Daji's particular story is from the Feng Shen Yan Yi novel, which is translated to Investiture of the Gods. There's quite a few stories in it, including Nezha's tale. Outside of that there's the other big two Chinese mythology novels in Journey to the West and Water Margin. That said, a lot of Chinese myths are fairly disparate and all over the place so you'll need to do some searching. To give you some places to look, try searching for Chinese creation myths, mythological origins of humanity and the tales of gods like the Three Sovereigns and Five Emperor's. They'll give you a fairly comprehensive view of Chinese myths and legends
I'm a simple woman. I see Ran, I click.
In a fantasy story I'm working on, based on Japanese mythology, I'm taking Kitsune (and several other animal yokai) and placing them in the position of elves. That being that they are a mysterious race of forest dwelling creatures who play tricks on humans, but will still act as allies, friends, or lovers.