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This is the Palpatine I love - the mastermind, the schemer, the puppet master. Never a situation which he cannot turn to his advantage. These two episode were outstanding.
Loved it. If Rampart succeeds he gets what he wants. But if what really happened is uncovered, then with better timing than the best comedian haha Palps ascends at a crucial moment, says what he needs to and influences the vote. However I’m still not on board with the reasoning tbh. I don’t think it needed to be done, just the idea of accelerated aging (which is really the main point they’re actually pushing still about why they still need to do this anyway), stretching dna thin and the threat of insurgency would’ve been good enough. You didn’t need to obliterate all the resources you had somewhere which you now have to replace with housing, training facilities ect not to mention suggested loss of life that was still useful which all diverts funds from other projects that he wants now or in the future such as the Death Star and Tie Defenders. It’s also just not a good idea for something on such a big that so many clones know about that could really disgruntle your entire army pretty much. If the clones decided to turn now, you’d be screwed as that’s your army which would just steamroll you with nothing in it’s path. I also don’t like how it’s coming off as just decommissioning pretty much all the clones at once seemingly which also makes no sense. They’re still extremely valuable in combat and better than stormtroopers. The transition period is just a bit too fast for my liking. With that all said though, Rampart’s arrest was amazingly ironic with him following orders. However I also don’t really get why the Bad Batch were fighting to keep the clones in the empire though. With no clones in the way they’d probably stop pulling punches and there’d be many more like them which would take the heat off too. I’m just praying that there’s more hidden bases on Kamino both in service to the empire and also ones they don’t know about that Kaminioans live on. I really don’t like the departure from legends and was hoping we’d see a clone rebellion on Kamino like in the OG Battlefront 2 as that had so much potential for rich storytelling and thematics. We also know Palpatine’s interest in clones and we could’ve had a TFU2 like scenario there but yeah even that aspect of him now doesn’t make sense as to why he blew everything up. I was hoping it’d just be tropica city but they said in this episode it was pretty much all the cities across the planet
@@protector_of_the_realms It's not about "keeping the Clones in the Empire". As was shown by the loyalist clones that Chuchi spoke to at the 79 club, most of them don't WANT to leave the army. It's literally all they know and most of their training has not prepared then foe any other life. And, even though it isn't shown, most of the clones are in fact most likely putting down pirates and actual criminal elements in the Outer Rim - at this point probably more than legitimate political opposition (although that's definitely present and growing). You saw with Howzer and the clones who supported him that standing up against the Empire's immoral orders just gets them arrested. So the clones who served the Republic with courage and dedication are pretty screwed, regardless. "We aren't bad men, but what we did (to Kamino) was wrong." The idea is to get the clones the best deal they can as their accelerated aging forces them out of active service.
This was one of the only moment where my jaw dropped at how brilliant of a twist it was. It's moments like this that hold me over for every stupid choice Lucasfilm makes
Ian McDiarmid is always killing it. So glad to have him on regularly as Palpatine thanks to advancements in voice recording technology. Use him while we’ve got him, I say.
I feel like he has one of the most underrated performances in Star Wars. Like, half the reason the Emperor is such a good villain is because of his delivery and performance. He IS the Emperor.
Loved it. If Rampart succeeds he gets what he wants. But if what really happened is uncovered, then with better timing than the best comedian haha Palps ascends at a crucial moment, says what he needs to and influences the vote. However I’m still not on board with the reasoning tbh. I don’t think it needed to be done, just the idea of accelerated aging (which is really the main point they’re actually pushing still about why they still need to do this anyway), stretching dna thin and the threat of insurgency would’ve been good enough. You didn’t need to obliterate all the resources you had somewhere which you now have to replace with housing, training facilities ect not to mention suggested loss of life that was still useful which all diverts funds from other projects that he wants now or in the future such as the Death Star and Tie Defenders. It’s also just not a good idea for something on such a big that so many clones know about that could really disgruntle your entire army pretty much. If the clones decided to turn now, you’d be screwed as that’s your army which would just steamroll you with nothing in it’s path. I also don’t like how it’s coming off as just decommissioning pretty much all the clones at once seemingly which also makes no sense. They’re still extremely valuable in combat and better than stormtroopers. The transition period is just a bit too fast for my liking. With that all said though, Rampart’s arrest was amazingly ironic with him following orders. However I also don’t really get why the Bad Batch were fighting to keep the clones in the empire though. With no clones in the way they’d probably stop pulling punches and there’d be many more like them which would take the heat off too. I’m just praying that there’s more hidden bases on Kamino both in service to the empire and also ones they don’t know about that Kaminioans live on. I really don’t like the departure from legends and was hoping we’d see a clone rebellion on Kamino like in the OG Battlefront 2 as that had so much potential for rich storytelling and thematics. We also know Palpatine’s interest in clones and we could’ve had a TFU2 like scenario there but yeah even that aspect of him now doesn’t make sense as to why he blew everything up. I was hoping it’d just be tropica city but they said in this episode it was pretty much all the cities across the planet
I love how they take so much care to stun the other clones, unless you can't see them. Then they don't mind blowing them out of the sky or blowing them into the sky.
You can't really stun a ship so... I get what you're saying though. They are trying to keep clone casualties to a minimum but some are gonna have to be necessary
Which also kinda bugs me in 2 ways actually thinking about it haha. 1) why the hell are they tryna prevent the Empire from doing this? If they were fighting forces other than clones it’d probably be easier for them without the inner conflict and having to hold back their punches. It’d also take the heat off them with a lot more clones running around like them 2) It makes the clones and everyone else look hella incompetent missing everything haha. Like just set you blasters to stun in general. It’s a much wider radius and easier to hit stuff and a lot more effective. The blaster bolts don’t even kill when you have armour on usually, just incapacitates you and if you want to kill well it’s a lot easier if they’ve been stunned first
@@protector_of_the_realms in Legends, the problem was that using the stun settings divided the effective range of the weapon by four. So they were best used in confined spaces, by really good shots.
Echo leaving shocked me but it makes sense, It does end the debate of him and Tech being too similar and it makes sense for him to go with Rex even if it's sad we lose him as a squad member.
Also, this way, We will get to see the adventures and pursuits of Echo and Rex, in other parts of the galaxy. The story of The Bad Batch can be told on multiple fronts, in different places. They'll all come back together, in the future.
@@ImTheReverse I get that point. The only reason I’m arguing this point is cause I’m sad to see echo go. He’s my fav character from the bb and knowing that I’m going to see a lot less of him makes me sad.
The literal senate appearing before the Senate is bone chilling to the core, and the way he twisted the events in his favor meant business. as Palpatine's two steps ahead out of everyone in the galaxy, especially the batch. Checkmate has begun before it even ended. So grateful to have them release dual episodes so we won't have to wait for another week on what happens. Also, it is quite awesome to see Chuchi on both episodes as she is all for clone rights, etc.
Loved it. If Rampart succeeds he gets what he wants. But if what really happened is uncovered, then with better timing than the best comedian haha Palps ascends at a crucial moment, says what he needs to and influences the vote. However I’m still not on board with the reasoning tbh. I don’t think it needed to be done, just the idea of accelerated aging (which is really the main point they’re actually pushing still about why they still need to do this anyway), stretching dna thin and the threat of insurgency would’ve been good enough. You didn’t need to obliterate all the resources you had somewhere which you now have to replace with housing, training facilities ect not to mention suggested loss of life that was still useful which all diverts funds from other projects that he wants now or in the future such as the Death Star and Tie Defenders. It’s also just not a good idea for something on such a big that so many clones know about that could really disgruntle your entire army pretty much. If the clones decided to turn now, you’d be screwed as that’s your army which would just steamroll you with nothing in it’s path. I also don’t like how it’s coming off as just decommissioning pretty much all the clones at once seemingly which also makes no sense. They’re still extremely valuable in combat and better than stormtroopers. The transition period is just a bit too fast for my liking. With that all said though, Rampart’s arrest was amazingly ironic with him following orders. However I also don’t really get why the Bad Batch were fighting to keep the clones in the empire though. With no clones in the way they’d probably stop pulling punches and there’d be many more like them which would take the heat off too. I’m just praying that there’s more hidden bases on Kamino both in service to the empire and also ones they don’t know about that Kaminioans live on. I really don’t like the departure from legends and was hoping we’d see a clone rebellion on Kamino like in the OG Battlefront 2 as that had so much potential for rich storytelling and thematics. We also know Palpatine’s interest in clones and we could’ve had a TFU2 like scenario there but yeah even that aspect of him now doesn’t make sense as to why he blew everything up. I was hoping it’d just be tropica city but they said in this episode it was pretty much all the cities across the planet
These episodes were INCREDIBLE. I'm really interested in seeing where that clone assassin plotline goes. Maybe the first Death Trooper? Purge Trooper? Who knows...
@@cheericoke2484 yeah. I still highly highly doubt that cody actually left the empire and was instead either captured or reassigned. And this prob has something to do w it that we’ll come back to towards the end of the seaosn
Purge were directly under the inquisitions control. I believe this was a shock trooper, as all hardcore Redguards would begin operating at this time, and the bulk of the first ones are clones before enlisting the humans going through the deadly training. And essentially, while they did a terrible job of showing it, the Final Order was supposed to be the same training for the Red Troopers
It was strange for me, because I found Chuchi's one off episode on TCW to be one of my faves, even though it was kinda small. Seeing her take such a strong stance in this arc was not only heartwarming, but REALLY amazing for since I came to like her episode so much. I know the conflict was a bit contrived, but as a kid I liked her speech and I also found her ability to step to be pretty nice. Seeing her step up and stand for the clones was amazing, even if it may have been for naught, she made it known she was willing to be their voice.
Omega is way more level headed than people realize like she was looking directly at the man who murdered all of her brothers and she only gave him a mean look. That's some deep shit man.
i really hope they keep this type of stuff going in the show THIS is what i was hoping for when they announced the series, this is the Bad Batch show i want 2 fun details that are easily missed is the red is stripped from the Venators so they look like the ROTS ending versions and closer to SDs and nearly every shot of Coruscant there was a Venator hovering somewhere i love it
The moment Palpatine showed up I actually felt a chill run down my spine! And then when Ian McDiarmid’s iconic voice started to boom throughout the senate chamber I had a horrible feeling that this is what he wanted all along. Proving once again that Emperor Palpatine is one of the greatest villains in history. Also both these episodes have Andor level writing.
Loved it. If Rampart succeeds he gets what he wants. But if what really happened is uncovered, then with better timing than the best comedian haha Palps ascends at a crucial moment, says what he needs to and influences the vote. However I’m still not on board with the reasoning tbh. I don’t think it needed to be done, just the idea of accelerated aging (which is really the main point they’re actually pushing still about why they still need to do this anyway), stretching dna thin and the threat of insurgency would’ve been good enough. You didn’t need to obliterate all the resources you had somewhere which you now have to replace with housing, training facilities ect not to mention suggested loss of life that was still useful which all diverts funds from other projects that he wants now or in the future such as the Death Star and Tie Defenders. It’s also just not a good idea for something on such a big that so many clones know about that could really disgruntle your entire army pretty much. If the clones decided to turn now, you’d be screwed as that’s your army which would just steamroll you with nothing in it’s path. I also don’t like how it’s coming off as just decommissioning pretty much all the clones at once seemingly which also makes no sense. They’re still extremely valuable in combat and better than stormtroopers. The transition period is just a bit too fast for my liking. With that all said though, Rampart’s arrest was amazingly ironic with him following orders. However I also don’t really get why the Bad Batch were fighting to keep the clones in the empire though. With no clones in the way they’d probably stop pulling punches and there’d be many more like them which would take the heat off too. I’m just praying that there’s more hidden bases on Kamino both in service to the empire and also ones they don’t know about that Kaminioans live on. I really don’t like the departure from legends and was hoping we’d see a clone rebellion on Kamino like in the OG Battlefront 2 as that had so much potential for rich storytelling and thematics. We also know Palpatine’s interest in clones and we could’ve had a TFU2 like scenario there but yeah even that aspect of him now doesn’t make sense as to why he blew everything up. I was hoping it’d just be tropica city but they said in this episode it was pretty much all the cities across the planet
I feel like the people behind this show were listening every time I said "I like when non-main characters live/get to do something." because between Chuchi's guards and the two clones with Cody and Crosshair I've been really pleased.
I just had a thought. Obviously the Senate chambers would've needed to be shut down for repairs after Palpatine's battle with Yoda, and his explanation for why it was so messed up in the first place most likely would've been a last assassination attempt on the Jedi's part
I am not embarrassed to admit I cried seeing Chuchi again. She was one of my favorite senators in Clone Wars and it was an absolute treat to have her back.
35:25 YES I CALLED IT!! Back whenbthey dropped the trailer for abd batch i remember echo telling omega they need to actually fight the empire in it, and had a feeling he was gonna leave since then. They been dropping small hints all season like him being pissed at treasure mission, wanting to fight more, getting mad at Cid’s quests, his reaction to gungi, etc
These two episodes were fascinating, I wonder if Rampart has been converting Clones into asssasins and maybe that's what happened to Cody and him going awol was a cover up.
@@twilight_lupinesilva4691 Rex (if the clones age at double human rates) : biologically maybe 25 at the endo of the Clone Wars. Biologically 63 by the Battle of Yavin. Biologically 69 by the Battle of Endor. Biologically 77 by the second season of the Mandalorian.
Coming back to say that I LOVE the theme they use for Palpatine in the Senate scene. It's a quieter, more subdued version of the rattling choir heard for him in Tales of the Jedi with Dooku.
I was surprised to see Halle Burtoni again, it's been so long. I mean it makes perfect sense for her to be there given the story but the thought hadn't even crossed my mind.
Palps has a plan for every situation unfortunately,it was great to hear Ian McDiarmid as the voice of the Emperor but it's hard to see our heroes lose,even if you know it's gonna happen :( Last scene with Echo was so emotional,but it would be cooler if the whole Bad Batch went with Rex to help the clones :)
I absolutely loved these two episodes! They are easily my favorite ones so far! I felt like everything about them were just so perfect. Whether it’s be the the story, the writing, the action or how gripping and tense they were, there episodes just had everything. Not to mention the great interactions between the characters, and how much some of them were fleshed out and developed. The soundtrack for these episodes were also fantastic, every score felt so amazing and unique in its way. It feels like they’ve really been stepping up their game when it comes to the soundtrack. And of course, as always, the animation is super beautiful, and stunning, especially in all the scenes where it shows the different setting and environments of Corucscant. The detail put into every scene were just so amazing and just so visually pleasing in every way. I loved Flip and Cade, it was great to see more Clones who voiced their opinions on the Empire and it was so sad to see both of them die for trying to speak the truth. It was also really great to see retuning characters from Clone Wars like Mas Amedda, Halle Burtoni and Riyo Chuchi and to see all of their updated character designs. And speaking of Senator Chuchi it was super great to see her again, but all grown up now, and I loved how much she wanted to defend the Clones. I felt like it was such a great bit of character development that we got to see how she felt that the Clones deserve better seeing as everything they have done to protect the galaxy. It was also cool to be able to see her doing some investigative work like Padme and Bail did in some of the Clone Wars episodes. We also saw Bail Organa again which was really great, and I can’t really explain why, but no matter the circumstance I am always just so happy to see him on the screen no matter how small of a role he plays. And it was just so satisfying to finally see Rampart be taken to justice for all the bad things he has done towards the Clones and I’m curious to see what will happen to him next. And I’ve got to talk about that Palpatine scene, I mean every second he was on screen was incredible. His dialogue and overall presence felt so incredible not to mention the writing for how he was able to pin everything on Rampart in order to segue into the decommissioning of the Clones was just so amazing. I’m so glad that I got to experience this amazing scene of Emperor Palpatine. Also I loved Echo in this episode, it started out with us getting more character development for him which I loved and we saw that as the episode went on we saw more and more how he was agreeing with Rex’s mission. And it was so sad to see him and Omega say goodbye to each other. I really hope that we get to see him and Rex return eventually in this season and see them still continuing on their mission to help Clones and others to fight against the Empire. And maybe the next time we see Echo he’ll have an actual mechanical arm rather than a screwdriver. I really don’t love these two episodes so much. They were so perfect in every aspect and served as both a great political thriller and as an incredible way to advance the overall story of the Bad Batch series. I am super curious to see where the rest of the story will lead the Batch and what will happen in next week’s episode.
Just realized that the clone giving the info on what happened in Kamino is the same clone who gave the report to the admiral about the city being successfully destroyed but in his voice he clearly sounds distraught about what they just did.
My big theory is that the Assassin is a Spaarti clone. From Legends we know Palpatine contracted Spaarti Creations to make lower tier Jango clones to fill ranks at the end of the war. And where were those Spaarti cloning cylinders? Mount Tantiss. Of course, this assassin doesn't seem to be less capable but that could just be a new spin on the legends idea.
I loved how Palpatine twisted it to his advantage, really shows off his masterful manipulation skills. If Rampart succeeds he gets what he wants. But if what really happened is uncovered, then with better timing than the best comedian haha Palps ascends at a crucial moment, says what he needs to and influences the vote. However I’m still not on board with the reasoning tbh. I don’t think it needed to be done, just the idea of accelerated aging (which is really the main point they’re actually pushing still about why they still need to do this anyway), stretching dna thin and the threat of insurgency would’ve been good enough. You didn’t need to obliterate all the resources you had somewhere which you now have to replace with housing, training facilities ect not to mention suggested loss of life that was still useful which all diverts funds from other projects that he wants now or in the future such as the Death Star and Tie Defenders. It’s also just not a good idea for something on such a big that so many clones know about that could really disgruntle your entire army pretty much. If the clones decided to turn now, you’d be screwed as that’s your army which would just steamroll you with nothing in it’s path. I also don’t like how it’s coming off as just decommissioning pretty much all the clones at once seemingly which also makes no sense. They’re still extremely valuable in combat and better than stormtroopers. The transition period is just a bit too fast for my liking. With that all said though, Rampart’s arrest was amazingly ironic with him following orders. However I also don’t really get why the Bad Batch were fighting to keep the clones in the empire though. With no clones in the way they’d probably stop pulling punches and there’d be many more like them which would take the heat off too. And really everyone should just use stun in universe. So much more effective with the radius and seeing how blaster bolts don’t usually kill armour wearers anyway lol. I’m just praying that there’s more hidden bases on Kamino both in service to the empire and also ones they don’t know about that Kaminioans live on. I really don’t like the departure from legends and was hoping we’d see a clone rebellion on Kamino like in the OG Battlefront 2 as that had so much potential for rich storytelling and thematics. We also know Palpatine’s interest in clones and we could’ve had a TFU2 like scenario there but yeah even that aspect of him now doesn’t make sense as to why he blew everything up. I was hoping it’d just be tropica city but they said in this episode it was pretty much all the cities across the planet
This is exactly what I wanted to see it was a really good episode. I hope we see more of the assassin clones and also Rex and Echo doing their thing maybe with Ahsoka. Then also figure out where Cody is and what he will do next, hopefully meet up with Rex and Echo
50:11 This is exactly, what I was thinking, but I was terrified for Riyo Chuchi. She's one of the only good ones left in the Senate. Padme, Satine, and so many others are dead. We know Bail Organa lives until ANH, and Mon Mothma until post-RotJ, but Chuchi is an exclusive TCW character. This means she's likely dead within the next few years. She wasn't in Andor or Rebels or Rogue One. I wonder if she'll ever see Ahsoka again? They were good friends. I knew Rampart's days were numbered when he killed Wilco. He was obviously losing favor with Tarkin and the other superiors, so it doesn't surprise me that they set him up to take the fall. They probably knew they couldn't keep the truth of the destruction of Kamino quiet. And now that the Bad Batch did a mission on Coruscant, there's a good chance that security cameras caught them from many different angles. So the fact that they're alive is known now. Palpatine emerging into the Senate chamber reminds me of "The Lawless." For the most part, he's able to take a step back and let his cronies deal with problems, but occasionally he has to get his own hands dirty. He let Maul do his thing until he became a rival. He let the Senate do its thing until it threatened his power. And then, at the end of the scene, did anyone else notice the music? It's a riff taken from Revenge of the Sith, from the scene in which the Galactic Empire is declared and Padme says "So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause." I've been waiting 18 years to hear that theme pop up again, and this was the perfect moment for it, to remind us that Palpatine has set things up in a way that it doesn't matter how well you play the game and use the system - he's got the game rigged. 42:07 Seeing Omega walking around the Senate asking questions reminded me of why Ahsoka was introduced to the SW universe. George Lucas said that there needed to be a student character for the story, and Omega is that character in this show. In Rebels, it was Ezra. It's the character that doesn't really know what's going on, so they ask obvious questions to provide exposition for the story. In The Mandalorian, I would say that Din is that character, since there are so many jokes on the internet about how he's the only main character in a Star Wars show that doesn't know he's in Star Wars.
23:16 I know people don't tend to go back to look at the comments on old videos, but whatever. I was rewatching the episode and I focused on how Rampart had Omega, arguably the most important member of the Bad Batch standing right there in front of him, and he had no idea. He really was an idiot. I noticed that the first time watching (and so did Eric), but it occurs to me now that the smarter Imperial officers we know - Tarkin, Thrawn, Dedra, Syril, Yularen, Kallus, etc. - would have recognized her as a person of interest instantly if they had his assignment. Even if the Bad Batch hadn't brought about Rampart's downfall, he was obviously overlooking things left and right, and it would have caught up to him eventually. I suppose he should consider it an honor that he was taken down by the Emperor himself, not Vader or Tarkin or anyone lower.
The impact, when life-altering events (like Echo leaving the Batch at the end of season 2 episode 8, for example,) wouldn't have nearly as much weight, emotionally, (people seemingly don't understand, when whining and complaining about; "filler," episodes,) because those episodes are there to further flesh out this group dynamic, which makes us, out here in the audience, by virtue of expending our valuable time and energy getting to know and, as a result, fall in love with these characters, moments like that, and especially events like what happens to Tech, sacrifices they make in those pivotal moments, wouldn't hit nearly as hard. Had we not spent so much; "filler," time with Tech, Riot Racing, or getting injured treasure hunting, or whatever. Had we not spent so much time with Echo, being sold as a; "Droid," lol it's or any of that less overarching stuff, shenanigans they'd been getting themselves up to, in-between, that makes, arguably even sometimes inevitably, losing them hit us as hard as it does! Even watching those events hit the other characters we've spent so much time investing in, over the course of these two seasons, so far, having invested so much ourselves makes us care all that much more, that's what we'd be losing if the show went the route so many impatient viewers claim they'd prefer! I'm convinced of it, if it weren't for all of that so-called; "filler," this series wouldn't have anywhere close to the impact it's had! But, taking that time to get to know the characters, that patience required, is something valued increasingly less, in recent years. (But, that's just me talkin' lol what do I know, right?!? ✌️)
It was good to see senator chuchi again I know padme would be proud of her friend for standing up for the clones although its not easy to fool palaptine
Dear Blind Wave, there's only one person who hates clones and Jedi with a passion - when the Assassin was unmasked, I could only say one phrase "Long time no see SLICK!!!" 😱
I like the mix of both. Single stories with some arcs mixed in. It helps balance. The entire season usually has an overall arc and so single stories stretch out the overall and add lore.
It's always great to see you Guys react to The Star Wars Universe. Eric and Aaron, you 2 look so tickled to see The Emperor continue to weave his evil web. Yes, Ian McDiarmid has a golden, rusty, devious voice, when he wants to have one. May The Force Be With You.
I've been of the opinion for awhile that clone related stories are some of the most interesting in Star Wars. The concepts and issues that can be delved into with them are so relevant to today and our own possible near future. Discussions involving identity and individuality are important. One of my all time favorite Star Wars book series was Republic Commandos which morphed into the regretably unfinished Imperial Commandos for many of these same reasons. These particular Bad Batch episodes also incorporate the allusion to veterans affairs which is another important conversation. I wish they'd do a live action movie based on these themes like they've done in books and animation. Jedi/Sith are interesting but I'd really like to see live action clone stories.
Echo going with Rex is perfect because we will still follow him like we follow Crosshair so now we will get more Rex and his interactions with the other clones.
I feel like it’s a more obvious move to have the Clones teach the new Empire recruits. The Clones want to stay in the military, let them but have them as instructors and field team leaders to help the transition along.
Yeah it’s super dumb. They’re screwing up the transition period now just to make clones the good guys and had no part to do with the Empire which is becoming more and more genericly evil which is getting a bit ridiculous ngl
They actually showed that last season at the secret facility where the Batch rescued Gregor. Clone commandos were teaching the new TK's (Stormtroopers before the name was applied). Which is actually not the best use of highly specialized commandos, but it looks good on paper, and Palps doesn't really care since the Starfleet can just pound any real opposition into rubble.
what a fun arc! defs made the show far more interesting. Fun fact That one senator who voices disagrement ends up being one of the heads of the rebel aliance in rogue one.
Nice, glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. Her appearance in Rogue One was brief, but she had a distinct enough look that I was able to almost immediately recognize her here.
say whatever you want about how evil Palpatine is. No one can denige that he is a master manipulator. And that no one BUT Ian McDiarmid could pull off the character
I know in a past episode, one of the Delta Squad members was on the base they snuck onto where that brought that Kaminoan lady. So Delta Squad, or at least some of them, work for the Empire. They were training non-clones I think
my lord these chapter titles for this video are gold. lol. love it. also, great set of episodes. I'm fine with one-offs because in general this is a broad show with many episodes that can spread out and eventually toss into an actual arc. love the show
I love this series, is so emotional! The characters, the musics, the ambience! At my opinion Clone Wars and The Bad Batch really tells the story of the Star Wars Universe and at the end of every single episode you want see more and more! I love the clones, I love Rex, I love Bad Batch!
I noticed in this episode that Rex does not have his helmet, he left it at the planet where "Ashoka" buried it. I wonder when he gets the helmet he uses in Rebels.
Kaminoans didn't only make just Clone Troopers. They were in the cloning business long before that; so it's easy to assume she's probably cloned by a different host, for a different job.
@@Commander_Shepard. you’re 100% right but I don’t know if that’s the intention considering her accent, bind with the clones and being part of the mutations gang. I always took it as she’s a mutated Fett for some reason but could be wrong
@@protector_of_the_realms Oh no, she IS for a fact a mutant clone of Fett. I'm saying the people they meet like Chuchi and Halle Burtoni probably assume she's a clone of a different host.
It's cool that Echo made the initial choice to leave Rex of the Bad Batch during the Clone Wars. Now he's leaving the Bad Batch for Rex...if only temporarily. I was very worried they were gonna kill him off when he and Omega were talking towards the beginning of the episode.
Technically Rampart was not lying.... he was "Off Planet", and the Training event was an Orbital Bombardment Live-fire Exercise.... from a Certain Point of View. The most dangerous asset of the Empire: "true believers" "Heads I Win, Tails, You Lose" ~Emeror Palpatine~ It will be interesting to see if the Recruitment Bill was passed by Emperor's Fiat with or without the provisions for Clone Support intact, or if there were further changes introduced due to the "flaw" of Clone "over-obedience" being highlighted. In Kenobi that clone beggar was on the street in his armor, so "Decomissioning" is very vague. The Sniper could be a Gen1 Spaarti Clone. Remember in Legends the Emperor continued liberal use of Cloning for any individual who showed special ability or skill. Having your genetics "preserved" for contribution to the Empire as augmentees to the Stormtrooper Corps and even into the Imperial Guardsmen was considered a high honor.
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I feel like Palpatine waits there all day so he can make a dramatic entrance
I love the idea of Palpatine sitting in a room under the senate with a bowl of popcorn watching them like his favourite reality show
Lmao
"Bring me more diet soda!"
"Yes, my lord."
"And find that remote! Holoflix is dropping another Wednesday episode."
@@kenle2 holofix?😂 Star wars Netflix lmao I can't even🤣
@Kenneth Dawson servant: "look my lord your favorite show is on, Empires Most Wanted is featuring Yoda. Do you want to see it?"
Palpatine: "DO IT!"
This is the Palpatine I love - the mastermind, the schemer, the puppet master. Never a situation which he cannot turn to his advantage. These two episode were outstanding.
Loved it. If Rampart succeeds he gets what he wants. But if what really happened is uncovered, then with better timing than the best comedian haha Palps ascends at a crucial moment, says what he needs to and influences the vote.
However I’m still not on board with the reasoning tbh. I don’t think it needed to be done, just the idea of accelerated aging (which is really the main point they’re actually pushing still about why they still need to do this anyway), stretching dna thin and the threat of insurgency would’ve been good enough. You didn’t need to obliterate all the resources you had somewhere which you now have to replace with housing, training facilities ect not to mention suggested loss of life that was still useful which all diverts funds from other projects that he wants now or in the future such as the Death Star and Tie Defenders.
It’s also just not a good idea for something on such a big that so many clones know about that could really disgruntle your entire army pretty much. If the clones decided to turn now, you’d be screwed as that’s your army which would just steamroll you with nothing in it’s path. I also don’t like how it’s coming off as just decommissioning pretty much all the clones at once seemingly which also makes no sense. They’re still extremely valuable in combat and better than stormtroopers. The transition period is just a bit too fast for my liking.
With that all said though, Rampart’s arrest was amazingly ironic with him following orders.
However I also don’t really get why the Bad Batch were fighting to keep the clones in the empire though. With no clones in the way they’d probably stop pulling punches and there’d be many more like them which would take the heat off too.
I’m just praying that there’s more hidden bases on Kamino both in service to the empire and also ones they don’t know about that Kaminioans live on. I really don’t like the departure from legends and was hoping we’d see a clone rebellion on Kamino like in the OG Battlefront 2 as that had so much potential for rich storytelling and thematics. We also know Palpatine’s interest in clones and we could’ve had a TFU2 like scenario there but yeah even that aspect of him now doesn’t make sense as to why he blew everything up. I was hoping it’d just be tropica city but they said in this episode it was pretty much all the cities across the planet
@@protector_of_the_realms
It's not about "keeping the Clones in the Empire".
As was shown by the loyalist clones that Chuchi spoke to at the 79 club, most of them don't WANT to leave the army.
It's literally all they know and most of their training has not prepared then foe any other life.
And, even though it isn't shown, most of the clones are in fact most likely putting down pirates and actual criminal elements in the Outer Rim - at this point probably more than legitimate political opposition (although that's definitely present and growing).
You saw with Howzer and the clones who supported him that standing up against the Empire's immoral orders just gets them arrested.
So the clones who served the Republic with courage and dedication are pretty screwed, regardless.
"We aren't bad men, but what we did (to Kamino) was wrong."
The idea is to get the clones the best deal they can as their accelerated aging forces them out of active service.
This was one of the only moment where my jaw dropped at how brilliant of a twist it was. It's moments like this that hold me over for every stupid choice Lucasfilm makes
Ian McDiarmid is always killing it. So glad to have him on regularly as Palpatine thanks to advancements in voice recording technology. Use him while we’ve got him, I say.
Chills the way the senate and even the show got quiet before he spoke.
His voice is terrifying and awesome at the same time
I feel like he has one of the most underrated performances in Star Wars. Like, half the reason the Emperor is such a good villain is because of his delivery and performance. He IS the Emperor.
Loved it. If Rampart succeeds he gets what he wants. But if what really happened is uncovered, then with better timing than the best comedian haha Palps ascends at a crucial moment, says what he needs to and influences the vote.
However I’m still not on board with the reasoning tbh. I don’t think it needed to be done, just the idea of accelerated aging (which is really the main point they’re actually pushing still about why they still need to do this anyway), stretching dna thin and the threat of insurgency would’ve been good enough. You didn’t need to obliterate all the resources you had somewhere which you now have to replace with housing, training facilities ect not to mention suggested loss of life that was still useful which all diverts funds from other projects that he wants now or in the future such as the Death Star and Tie Defenders.
It’s also just not a good idea for something on such a big that so many clones know about that could really disgruntle your entire army pretty much. If the clones decided to turn now, you’d be screwed as that’s your army which would just steamroll you with nothing in it’s path. I also don’t like how it’s coming off as just decommissioning pretty much all the clones at once seemingly which also makes no sense. They’re still extremely valuable in combat and better than stormtroopers. The transition period is just a bit too fast for my liking.
With that all said though, Rampart’s arrest was amazingly ironic with him following orders.
However I also don’t really get why the Bad Batch were fighting to keep the clones in the empire though. With no clones in the way they’d probably stop pulling punches and there’d be many more like them which would take the heat off too.
I’m just praying that there’s more hidden bases on Kamino both in service to the empire and also ones they don’t know about that Kaminioans live on. I really don’t like the departure from legends and was hoping we’d see a clone rebellion on Kamino like in the OG Battlefront 2 as that had so much potential for rich storytelling and thematics. We also know Palpatine’s interest in clones and we could’ve had a TFU2 like scenario there but yeah even that aspect of him now doesn’t make sense as to why he blew everything up. I was hoping it’d just be tropica city but they said in this episode it was pretty much all the cities across the planet
Advancements in voice recording technology? What exactly do you mean by this
I love how they take so much care to stun the other clones, unless you can't see them. Then they don't mind blowing them out of the sky or blowing them into the sky.
You can't really stun a ship so... I get what you're saying though. They are trying to keep clone casualties to a minimum but some are gonna have to be necessary
Which also kinda bugs me in 2 ways actually thinking about it haha.
1) why the hell are they tryna prevent the Empire from doing this? If they were fighting forces other than clones it’d probably be easier for them without the inner conflict and having to hold back their punches. It’d also take the heat off them with a lot more clones running around like them
2) It makes the clones and everyone else look hella incompetent missing everything haha. Like just set you blasters to stun in general. It’s a much wider radius and easier to hit stuff and a lot more effective. The blaster bolts don’t even kill when you have armour on usually, just incapacitates you and if you want to kill well it’s a lot easier if they’ve been stunned first
@@protector_of_the_realms in Legends, the problem was that using the stun settings divided the effective range of the weapon by four.
So they were best used in confined spaces, by really good shots.
Echo leaving shocked me but it makes sense, It does end the debate of him and Tech being too similar and it makes sense for him to go with Rex even if it's sad we lose him as a squad member.
Also, this way, We will get to see the adventures and pursuits of Echo and Rex, in other parts of the galaxy. The story of The Bad Batch can be told on multiple fronts, in different places. They'll all come back together, in the future.
All leading up to a clone rebellion methinks
I don't get how people call echo a smart one. He's smart but not nearly as smart as tech. Echo's thing is that he is part droid not that he's smart.
@@biscuit8909They’re similar because their primary contribution to the team is hacking stuff. Tech hacks tech, and Echo hacks using droid ports.
@@ImTheReverse I get that point. The only reason I’m arguing this point is cause I’m sad to see echo go. He’s my fav character from the bb and knowing that I’m going to see a lot less of him makes me sad.
The literal senate appearing before the Senate is bone chilling to the core, and the way he twisted the events in his favor meant business. as Palpatine's two steps ahead out of everyone in the galaxy, especially the batch. Checkmate has begun before it even ended.
So grateful to have them release dual episodes so we won't have to wait for another week on what happens. Also, it is quite awesome to see Chuchi on both episodes as she is all for clone rights, etc.
Loved it. If Rampart succeeds he gets what he wants. But if what really happened is uncovered, then with better timing than the best comedian haha Palps ascends at a crucial moment, says what he needs to and influences the vote.
However I’m still not on board with the reasoning tbh. I don’t think it needed to be done, just the idea of accelerated aging (which is really the main point they’re actually pushing still about why they still need to do this anyway), stretching dna thin and the threat of insurgency would’ve been good enough. You didn’t need to obliterate all the resources you had somewhere which you now have to replace with housing, training facilities ect not to mention suggested loss of life that was still useful which all diverts funds from other projects that he wants now or in the future such as the Death Star and Tie Defenders.
It’s also just not a good idea for something on such a big that so many clones know about that could really disgruntle your entire army pretty much. If the clones decided to turn now, you’d be screwed as that’s your army which would just steamroll you with nothing in it’s path. I also don’t like how it’s coming off as just decommissioning pretty much all the clones at once seemingly which also makes no sense. They’re still extremely valuable in combat and better than stormtroopers. The transition period is just a bit too fast for my liking.
With that all said though, Rampart’s arrest was amazingly ironic with him following orders.
However I also don’t really get why the Bad Batch were fighting to keep the clones in the empire though. With no clones in the way they’d probably stop pulling punches and there’d be many more like them which would take the heat off too.
I’m just praying that there’s more hidden bases on Kamino both in service to the empire and also ones they don’t know about that Kaminioans live on. I really don’t like the departure from legends and was hoping we’d see a clone rebellion on Kamino like in the OG Battlefront 2 as that had so much potential for rich storytelling and thematics. We also know Palpatine’s interest in clones and we could’ve had a TFU2 like scenario there but yeah even that aspect of him now doesn’t make sense as to why he blew everything up. I was hoping it’d just be tropica city but they said in this episode it was pretty much all the cities across the planet
I personally thought chuchi was underused and underrated
33:07
Rampart's reaction after being called out by Mas Amedda was honestly hilarious! Lol
It was so great to see bail and chuchi. I’m glad Rex is building his clone network.
These episodes were INCREDIBLE.
I'm really interested in seeing where that clone assassin plotline goes. Maybe the first Death Trooper? Purge Trooper? Who knows...
I think that it’ll lead to Cody’s disappearance
I remember hearing about clones in ledgends that hunt down deserter clones, maybe this is the cannon version of it
@@cheericoke2484 yeah. I still highly highly doubt that cody actually left the empire and was instead either captured or reassigned. And this prob has something to do w it that we’ll come back to towards the end of the seaosn
Purge were directly under the inquisitions control.
I believe this was a shock trooper, as all hardcore Redguards would begin operating at this time, and the bulk of the first ones are clones before enlisting the humans going through the deadly training.
And essentially, while they did a terrible job of showing it, the Final Order was supposed to be the same training for the Red Troopers
Maybe an appearance from Purvy the Purge trooper?
It was strange for me, because I found Chuchi's one off episode on TCW to be one of my faves, even though it was kinda small. Seeing her take such a strong stance in this arc was not only heartwarming, but REALLY amazing for since I came to like her episode so much. I know the conflict was a bit contrived, but as a kid I liked her speech and I also found her ability to step to be pretty nice.
Seeing her step up and stand for the clones was amazing, even if it may have been for naught, she made it known she was willing to be their voice.
I remember that as the snow episode! I love that episode a lot. I was surprise to see her make an appearance in this.
Omega is way more level headed than people realize like she was looking directly at the man who murdered all of her brothers and she only gave him a mean look. That's some deep shit man.
36:14 And that's when I started crying. 😭😭 People can say what they want about the Bad Batch and Omega but I love this show and I love her.
This episode, we saw Tech demonstrate his driving skills therefore proving that the episode "Faster" was not a filler.
It was such a bad filler. xD
@@Golfballtauchen
eh, I liked it
@@Golfballtauchen I think it was good filler
@@Golfballtauchen *good
I already forgot about that episode lol
When I first heard "Slip" I wasn't reading the subtitles at first and was so shocked that "Slick" was back somehow for a second.
i really hope they keep this type of stuff going in the show
THIS is what i was hoping for when they announced the series, this is the Bad Batch show i want
2 fun details that are easily missed is the red is stripped from the Venators so they look like the ROTS ending versions and closer to SDs and nearly every shot of Coruscant there was a Venator hovering somewhere i love it
The moment Palpatine showed up I actually felt a chill run down my spine! And then when Ian McDiarmid’s iconic voice started to boom throughout the senate chamber I had a horrible feeling that this is what he wanted all along. Proving once again that Emperor Palpatine is one of the greatest villains in history.
Also both these episodes have Andor level writing.
Loved it. If Rampart succeeds he gets what he wants. But if what really happened is uncovered, then with better timing than the best comedian haha Palps ascends at a crucial moment, says what he needs to and influences the vote.
However I’m still not on board with the reasoning tbh. I don’t think it needed to be done, just the idea of accelerated aging (which is really the main point they’re actually pushing still about why they still need to do this anyway), stretching dna thin and the threat of insurgency would’ve been good enough. You didn’t need to obliterate all the resources you had somewhere which you now have to replace with housing, training facilities ect not to mention suggested loss of life that was still useful which all diverts funds from other projects that he wants now or in the future such as the Death Star and Tie Defenders.
It’s also just not a good idea for something on such a big that so many clones know about that could really disgruntle your entire army pretty much. If the clones decided to turn now, you’d be screwed as that’s your army which would just steamroll you with nothing in it’s path. I also don’t like how it’s coming off as just decommissioning pretty much all the clones at once seemingly which also makes no sense. They’re still extremely valuable in combat and better than stormtroopers. The transition period is just a bit too fast for my liking.
With that all said though, Rampart’s arrest was amazingly ironic with him following orders.
However I also don’t really get why the Bad Batch were fighting to keep the clones in the empire though. With no clones in the way they’d probably stop pulling punches and there’d be many more like them which would take the heat off too.
I’m just praying that there’s more hidden bases on Kamino both in service to the empire and also ones they don’t know about that Kaminioans live on. I really don’t like the departure from legends and was hoping we’d see a clone rebellion on Kamino like in the OG Battlefront 2 as that had so much potential for rich storytelling and thematics. We also know Palpatine’s interest in clones and we could’ve had a TFU2 like scenario there but yeah even that aspect of him now doesn’t make sense as to why he blew everything up. I was hoping it’d just be tropica city but they said in this episode it was pretty much all the cities across the planet
I love the pipeline of Padme inspiring Chuchi to Chuchi inspiring Omega.
I feel like the people behind this show were listening every time I said "I like when non-main characters live/get to do something." because between Chuchi's guards and the two clones with Cody and Crosshair I've been really pleased.
"But I assure you" God level chills from that line
I love the use of the Clone Wars theme in these episodes.
I just had a thought. Obviously the Senate chambers would've needed to be shut down for repairs after Palpatine's battle with Yoda, and his explanation for why it was so messed up in the first place most likely would've been a last assassination attempt on the Jedi's part
Vice Admiral Rampart’s justice is served!
Damn straight
But at what cost?
@@BobbyM817Vice Admiral Rampart is responsible for destruction of Tipoca City earlier.
Eh he was just a cog. The real culprit won either way.
That culprit is Vice Admiral Rampart.
the senator in white robes is Senator Pamelo. She was one of the cabinet secretaries/councilmen in Rogue One that opposed the attack in Scariff
I am not embarrassed to admit I cried seeing Chuchi again. She was one of my favorite senators in Clone Wars and it was an absolute treat to have her back.
35:25 YES I CALLED IT!! Back whenbthey dropped the trailer for abd batch i remember echo telling omega they need to actually fight the empire in it, and had a feeling he was gonna leave since then. They been dropping small hints all season like him being pissed at treasure mission, wanting to fight more, getting mad at Cid’s quests, his reaction to gungi, etc
These two episodes were fascinating, I wonder if Rampart has been converting Clones into asssasins and maybe that's what happened to Cody and him going awol was a cover up.
And, was some of this happening on Mount Tantiss, using the gifts of Nala Se, and training from Crosshair?
I really hope we see Rex and Echo on the Ahsoka show. I feel like Rex is guaranteed, but I'd like to see Echo helping him out. Plus, Two Temeuras!
Ahsoka takes place around the time of the Mandalorian, which is at least 5 years after the battle of Endor. Rex may not even be alive anymore.
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Rex (if the clones age at double human rates) : biologically maybe 25 at the endo of the Clone Wars. Biologically 63 by the Battle of Yavin. Biologically 69 by the Battle of Endor. Biologically 77 by the second season of the Mandalorian.
@@twilight_lupinesilva4691 he fought in Endor I’m pretty sure he’s still alive but older
I spent this whole episode nervous that they were going to kill Chuchi. Glad she made it out.
A sniper working directly for Rampart? Glad to see Crosshair... Wait, what do you mean it's not Crosshairs?? 😄
*sees reaction appear*
"This is where the fun begins."
Coming back to say that I LOVE the theme they use for Palpatine in the Senate scene. It's a quieter, more subdued version of the rattling choir heard for him in Tales of the Jedi with Dooku.
So great seeing Rick back in the reaction
The only Star Wars reaction that matters
The way the whole senate immediately became silent as he stood to spoke 🔥
I was surprised to see Halle Burtoni again, it's been so long. I mean it makes perfect sense for her to be there given the story but the thought hadn't even crossed my mind.
Did she appear in only ONE episode.
Palps has a plan for every situation unfortunately,it was great to hear Ian McDiarmid as the voice of the Emperor but it's hard to see our heroes lose,even if you know it's gonna happen :( Last scene with Echo was so emotional,but it would be cooler if the whole Bad Batch went with Rex to help the clones :)
The mysterious sniper was not named in the credits.
I absolutely loved these two episodes! They are easily my favorite ones so far! I felt like everything about them were just so perfect. Whether it’s be the the story, the writing, the action or how gripping and tense they were, there episodes just had everything. Not to mention the great interactions between the characters, and how much some of them were fleshed out and developed. The soundtrack for these episodes were also fantastic, every score felt so amazing and unique in its way. It feels like they’ve really been stepping up their game when it comes to the soundtrack. And of course, as always, the animation is super beautiful, and stunning, especially in all the scenes where it shows the different setting and environments of Corucscant. The detail put into every scene were just so amazing and just so visually pleasing in every way. I loved Flip and Cade, it was great to see more Clones who voiced their opinions on the Empire and it was so sad to see both of them die for trying to speak the truth. It was also really great to see retuning characters from Clone Wars like Mas Amedda, Halle Burtoni and Riyo Chuchi and to see all of their updated character designs. And speaking of Senator Chuchi it was super great to see her again, but all grown up now, and I loved how much she wanted to defend the Clones. I felt like it was such a great bit of character development that we got to see how she felt that the Clones deserve better seeing as everything they have done to protect the galaxy. It was also cool to be able to see her doing some investigative work like Padme and Bail did in some of the Clone Wars episodes. We also saw Bail Organa again which was really great, and I can’t really explain why, but no matter the circumstance I am always just so happy to see him on the screen no matter how small of a role he plays. And it was just so satisfying to finally see Rampart be taken to justice for all the bad things he has done towards the Clones and I’m curious to see what will happen to him next. And I’ve got to talk about that Palpatine scene, I mean every second he was on screen was incredible. His dialogue and overall presence felt so incredible not to mention the writing for how he was able to pin everything on Rampart in order to segue into the decommissioning of the Clones was just so amazing. I’m so glad that I got to experience this amazing scene of Emperor Palpatine. Also I loved Echo in this episode, it started out with us getting more character development for him which I loved and we saw that as the episode went on we saw more and more how he was agreeing with Rex’s mission. And it was so sad to see him and Omega say goodbye to each other. I really hope that we get to see him and Rex return eventually in this season and see them still continuing on their mission to help Clones and others to fight against the Empire. And maybe the next time we see Echo he’ll have an actual mechanical arm rather than a screwdriver. I really don’t love these two episodes so much. They were so perfect in every aspect and served as both a great political thriller and as an incredible way to advance the overall story of the Bad Batch series. I am super curious to see where the rest of the story will lead the Batch and what will happen in next week’s episode.
The ending to episode 8 made me cry. These two episodes are so good!
Just realized that the clone giving the info on what happened in Kamino is the same clone who gave the report to the admiral about the city being successfully destroyed but in his voice he clearly sounds distraught about what they just did.
My big theory is that the Assassin is a Spaarti clone.
From Legends we know Palpatine contracted Spaarti Creations to make lower tier Jango clones to fill ranks at the end of the war. And where were those Spaarti cloning cylinders? Mount Tantiss. Of course, this assassin doesn't seem to be less capable but that could just be a new spin on the legends idea.
I loved how Palpatine twisted it to his advantage, really shows off his masterful manipulation skills. If Rampart succeeds he gets what he wants. But if what really happened is uncovered, then with better timing than the best comedian haha Palps ascends at a crucial moment, says what he needs to and influences the vote.
However I’m still not on board with the reasoning tbh. I don’t think it needed to be done, just the idea of accelerated aging (which is really the main point they’re actually pushing still about why they still need to do this anyway), stretching dna thin and the threat of insurgency would’ve been good enough. You didn’t need to obliterate all the resources you had somewhere which you now have to replace with housing, training facilities ect not to mention suggested loss of life that was still useful which all diverts funds from other projects that he wants now or in the future such as the Death Star and Tie Defenders.
It’s also just not a good idea for something on such a big that so many clones know about that could really disgruntle your entire army pretty much. If the clones decided to turn now, you’d be screwed as that’s your army which would just steamroll you with nothing in it’s path. I also don’t like how it’s coming off as just decommissioning pretty much all the clones at once seemingly which also makes no sense. They’re still extremely valuable in combat and better than stormtroopers. The transition period is just a bit too fast for my liking.
With that all said though, Rampart’s arrest was amazingly ironic with him following orders.
However I also don’t really get why the Bad Batch were fighting to keep the clones in the empire though. With no clones in the way they’d probably stop pulling punches and there’d be many more like them which would take the heat off too. And really everyone should just use stun in universe. So much more effective with the radius and seeing how blaster bolts don’t usually kill armour wearers anyway lol.
I’m just praying that there’s more hidden bases on Kamino both in service to the empire and also ones they don’t know about that Kaminioans live on. I really don’t like the departure from legends and was hoping we’d see a clone rebellion on Kamino like in the OG Battlefront 2 as that had so much potential for rich storytelling and thematics. We also know Palpatine’s interest in clones and we could’ve had a TFU2 like scenario there but yeah even that aspect of him now doesn’t make sense as to why he blew everything up. I was hoping it’d just be tropica city but they said in this episode it was pretty much all the cities across the planet
This is exactly what I wanted to see it was a really good episode. I hope we see more of the assassin clones and also Rex and Echo doing their thing maybe with Ahsoka. Then also figure out where Cody is and what he will do next, hopefully meet up with Rex and Echo
Been looking forward to this all day 🤙
50:11 This is exactly, what I was thinking, but I was terrified for Riyo Chuchi. She's one of the only good ones left in the Senate. Padme, Satine, and so many others are dead. We know Bail Organa lives until ANH, and Mon Mothma until post-RotJ, but Chuchi is an exclusive TCW character. This means she's likely dead within the next few years. She wasn't in Andor or Rebels or Rogue One. I wonder if she'll ever see Ahsoka again? They were good friends.
I knew Rampart's days were numbered when he killed Wilco. He was obviously losing favor with Tarkin and the other superiors, so it doesn't surprise me that they set him up to take the fall. They probably knew they couldn't keep the truth of the destruction of Kamino quiet.
And now that the Bad Batch did a mission on Coruscant, there's a good chance that security cameras caught them from many different angles. So the fact that they're alive is known now.
Palpatine emerging into the Senate chamber reminds me of "The Lawless." For the most part, he's able to take a step back and let his cronies deal with problems, but occasionally he has to get his own hands dirty. He let Maul do his thing until he became a rival. He let the Senate do its thing until it threatened his power. And then, at the end of the scene, did anyone else notice the music? It's a riff taken from Revenge of the Sith, from the scene in which the Galactic Empire is declared and Padme says "So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause." I've been waiting 18 years to hear that theme pop up again, and this was the perfect moment for it, to remind us that Palpatine has set things up in a way that it doesn't matter how well you play the game and use the system - he's got the game rigged.
42:07 Seeing Omega walking around the Senate asking questions reminded me of why Ahsoka was introduced to the SW universe. George Lucas said that there needed to be a student character for the story, and Omega is that character in this show. In Rebels, it was Ezra. It's the character that doesn't really know what's going on, so they ask obvious questions to provide exposition for the story. In The Mandalorian, I would say that Din is that character, since there are so many jokes on the internet about how he's the only main character in a Star Wars show that doesn't know he's in Star Wars.
23:16 I know people don't tend to go back to look at the comments on old videos, but whatever. I was rewatching the episode and I focused on how Rampart had Omega, arguably the most important member of the Bad Batch standing right there in front of him, and he had no idea. He really was an idiot. I noticed that the first time watching (and so did Eric), but it occurs to me now that the smarter Imperial officers we know - Tarkin, Thrawn, Dedra, Syril, Yularen, Kallus, etc. - would have recognized her as a person of interest instantly if they had his assignment. Even if the Bad Batch hadn't brought about Rampart's downfall, he was obviously overlooking things left and right, and it would have caught up to him eventually. I suppose he should consider it an honor that he was taken down by the Emperor himself, not Vader or Tarkin or anyone lower.
32:16 Hey Eric, that's what she said LMFAO
"My gratitude to Senator Chuchi for exposing a rogue element within our ranks..."
He means _you,_ Chuchi.
The impact, when life-altering events (like Echo leaving the Batch at the end of season 2 episode 8, for example,) wouldn't have nearly as much weight, emotionally, (people seemingly don't understand, when whining and complaining about; "filler," episodes,) because those episodes are there to further flesh out this group dynamic, which makes us, out here in the audience, by virtue of expending our valuable time and energy getting to know and, as a result, fall in love with these characters, moments like that, and especially events like what happens to Tech, sacrifices they make in those pivotal moments, wouldn't hit nearly as hard.
Had we not spent so much; "filler," time with Tech, Riot Racing, or getting injured treasure hunting, or whatever.
Had we not spent so much time with Echo, being sold as a; "Droid," lol it's or any of that less overarching stuff, shenanigans they'd been getting themselves up to, in-between, that makes, arguably even sometimes inevitably, losing them hit us as hard as it does!
Even watching those events hit the other characters we've spent so much time investing in, over the course of these two seasons, so far, having invested so much ourselves makes us care all that much more, that's what we'd be losing if the show went the route so many impatient viewers claim they'd prefer!
I'm convinced of it, if it weren't for all of that so-called; "filler," this series wouldn't have anywhere close to the impact it's had!
But, taking that time to get to know the characters, that patience required, is something valued increasingly less, in recent years.
(But, that's just me talkin' lol what do I know, right?!? ✌️)
It was good to see senator chuchi again I know padme would be proud of her friend for standing up for the clones although its not easy to fool palaptine
Dear Blind Wave, there's only one person who hates clones and Jedi with a passion - when the Assassin was unmasked, I could only say one phrase "Long time no see SLICK!!!" 😱
Cool idea, though I would dislike if they killed him off without us ever getting to know it was him.
@@grandmoffjake6871 I agree, and thinking about this, are we seeing the beginnings of the Shadow Scout or Dark Trooper program?
I like the mix of both. Single stories with some arcs mixed in. It helps balance. The entire season usually has an overall arc and so single stories stretch out the overall and add lore.
This is why I love Palpatine he always finds a way to make sure he wins and he's fucking great at it
Such great episodes!! I teared up at end when Echo leaves the group! Dammit Aaron, you and your cry face got me! 😢
I will miss our breathing droid, Echo, he and Tech were a dream team for nerds.
Palpy won't lose and if he lose, his variant won.
It's always great to see you Guys react to The Star Wars Universe. Eric and Aaron, you 2 look so tickled to see The Emperor continue to weave his evil web. Yes, Ian McDiarmid has a golden, rusty, devious voice, when he wants to have one. May The Force Be With You.
Why do characters leaving hit me more than characters dying? I don't know why I got tears from Echo leaving
I've been of the opinion for awhile that clone related stories are some of the most interesting in Star Wars. The concepts and issues that can be delved into with them are so relevant to today and our own possible near future. Discussions involving identity and individuality are important. One of my all time favorite Star Wars book series was Republic Commandos which morphed into the regretably unfinished Imperial Commandos for many of these same reasons. These particular Bad Batch episodes also incorporate the allusion to veterans affairs which is another important conversation. I wish they'd do a live action movie based on these themes like they've done in books and animation. Jedi/Sith are interesting but I'd really like to see live action clone stories.
Yes but I need clones on board with the empire. So sick of this generic black and white bs haha
Great reaction Wave Crew!
That scene of Omega & Echo was heartrending 😔😔😔
That Jesus line caught me off guard but it was the perfect example lmao 😂😂
Heads: palpating wins
Tails: you lose
Echo going with Rex is perfect because we will still follow him like we follow Crosshair so now we will get more Rex and his interactions with the other clones.
I feel like it’s a more obvious move to have the Clones teach the new Empire recruits.
The Clones want to stay in the military, let them but have them as instructors and field team leaders to help the transition along.
Yeah it’s super dumb. They’re screwing up the transition period now just to make clones the good guys and had no part to do with the Empire which is becoming more and more genericly evil which is getting a bit ridiculous ngl
They actually showed that last season at the secret facility where the Batch rescued Gregor.
Clone commandos were teaching the new TK's (Stormtroopers before the name was applied).
Which is actually not the best use of highly specialized commandos, but it looks good on paper, and Palps doesn't really care since the Starfleet can just pound any real opposition into rubble.
I swear if echo going with rex ends with echo dying again, i am gonna lose it, i cant lose him again
Rampart after this: "I did everything right and they indicted me!"
I didn't realize you could fit the entire senate inside of the senate.
Damn the running theme of "I was just following orders" is amazing. Even Rampart gets caught in it.
i like how the drydock alarm is the first order dreadnaught alarm
When you realize it's The A-team... who doesn't like heights...
what a fun arc! defs made the show far more interesting. Fun fact That one senator who voices disagrement ends up being one of the heads of the rebel aliance in rogue one.
Nice, glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. Her appearance in Rogue One was brief, but she had a distinct enough look that I was able to almost immediately recognize her here.
Best episodes to date tbh
Trees did have a great plan
It's wild as a kid I never thought once watching the Clone Wars that the Clones don't actually have any rights.
Palpatine doing an "AMLO"
say whatever you want about how evil Palpatine is. No one can denige that he is a master manipulator. And that no one BUT Ian McDiarmid could pull off the character
The way the show was edited in was very distracting, especially at like 35:50 The flashing in and out hurt my eyes and I had to look away
We never actually see a new skyscraper being built on Coruscant. I kinda wanna see how they do that lol
with construction materials and lots of droids i imagine
One of my favorite episode
The music in this episode was something else man
hands down the best set of episodes of this show period
For some reason i thought the assassin clone reminded me of slick from the 2nd cw episode
Finally can watch these. I was wondering where these went.
since everyone can throw one in, i would want a Delta-Squad meeting the Bad Batch at some point, where it turns out, they're on the same side.
I know in a past episode, one of the Delta Squad members was on the base they snuck onto where that brought that Kaminoan lady. So Delta Squad, or at least some of them, work for the Empire. They were training non-clones I think
theres also a cloning facility on courascant to make the Courascant guard (red trooper)
I wish either Bail had used R2-D2, or that R2-C4 would blow up at some point.
my lord these chapter titles for this video are gold. lol. love it. also, great set of episodes. I'm fine with one-offs because in general this is a broad show with many episodes that can spread out and eventually toss into an actual arc. love the show
How the hell does Palpatine's voice, alone, not tip anyone off that maybe he's not such a good dude?
I love this series, is so emotional! The characters, the musics, the ambience! At my opinion Clone Wars and The Bad Batch really tells the story of the Star Wars Universe and at the end of every single episode you want see more and more! I love the clones, I love Rex, I love Bad Batch!
33:27 I love how the entire senate (and you guys) fall silent when Palpatine rises.
I noticed in this episode that Rex does not have his helmet, he left it at the planet where "Ashoka" buried it. I wonder when he gets the helmet he uses in Rebels.
Why does no one see Omeeega and go "HOLY SHIT, A GIRL CLONE!??! How does that work?"
Kaminoans didn't only make just Clone Troopers. They were in the cloning business long before that; so it's easy to assume she's probably cloned by a different host, for a different job.
@@Commander_Shepard. you’re 100% right but I don’t know if that’s the intention considering her accent, bind with the clones and being part of the mutations gang. I always took it as she’s a mutated Fett for some reason but could be wrong
@@protector_of_the_realms Oh no, she IS for a fact a mutant clone of Fett. I'm saying the people they meet like Chuchi and Halle Burtoni probably assume she's a clone of a different host.
I think that assasin was either a clone Shadow Trooper or the beginning of the Dark Trooper program or Death Trooper program
It's cool that Echo made the initial choice to leave Rex of the Bad Batch during the Clone Wars. Now he's leaving the Bad Batch for Rex...if only temporarily. I was very worried they were gonna kill him off when he and Omega were talking towards the beginning of the episode.
My theory on the assassin clone is that he is an early version of the purge trooper
Since padme is dead who is the senator of Naboo other than Jar Jar.
Good question.
Maybe we'll see them. Or it's covered in the comics.
Great to see Senator Pamlo again.
Video is back! Finally!
Clone Troopers Rule! I love Clone troopers especially as a fan! Rex, Cody, Wolffe, Bly, and Fives are my favorite Clone Troopers!
Technically Rampart was not lying.... he was "Off Planet", and the Training event was an Orbital Bombardment Live-fire Exercise.... from a Certain Point of View.
The most dangerous asset of the Empire: "true believers"
"Heads I Win, Tails, You Lose"
~Emeror Palpatine~
It will be interesting to see if the Recruitment Bill was passed by Emperor's Fiat with or without the provisions for Clone Support intact, or if there were further changes introduced due to the "flaw" of Clone "over-obedience" being highlighted. In Kenobi that clone beggar was on the street in his armor, so "Decomissioning" is very vague.
The Sniper could be a Gen1 Spaarti Clone. Remember in Legends the Emperor continued liberal use of Cloning for any individual who showed special ability or skill. Having your genetics "preserved" for contribution to the Empire as augmentees to the Stormtrooper Corps and even into the Imperial Guardsmen was considered a high honor.
I was worried about it not being the right file too, but let’s be real, Tech does not make mistakes like that lol