Reloading #1 Buck 2.75 inch. My Best Performers! (Part 1)
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- A lot of folks have requested that I show you my favorite 2 3/4" #1 Buckshot reloads/handloads. It's been too danged hot to get to the range so I will have to do a part 2 for the range segment. Links below!!
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I argue constantly with some of my buddies who caution me about "overloading short brass." They don't realize that the only reason for the higher brass was to keep the powder from burning the paper of the early hulls. They maintain that if they didn't need to put the extra metal on the hull, they wouldn't, because it costs more money. I load heavy buck and slug rounds in the short-brass Fiocchi hulls, and generally reuse them.
and....low brass is for a specific reason, doesn't need resized, essential for us that burn thru and reload thousands of hulls for the trap range...can use a progressive loader.
In my load below, the buckshot were right out of the mold, no tumbling and no lube. For deer and hogs I would tumble and powder coat. Many thanks Wade for all your fantastic help in educating me. I surely hope you could put out a reloading manual, as you are the PO Ackley of shot shell reloading!
my pleasure for sure!! BP is working on a new manual now that will include several of my loads! Hopefully it will be available in 2022...
Thanks Wade. I always found it interesting the dynamic between 3.5” buckshot and 2.75” buckshot. You are correct, the individual pellets are the same size and moving faster in the 2.75”, the 3.5” just has more pellets.
Brother Wade you are a wealth of knowledge sir. Your videos have brought me leaps and bounds in reloading. Just wanted to say we appreciate you sir. Thank you, Love and prayers to you and your family in 2022.
Wade is a friggin national treasure. He’s single handedly gotten me wanting to get set up to roll my own 12 g when I have the space set up & budget lined up. 👍👍
you're too kind my brother...
@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors Please… I didn’t even mention that as a brother in Christ, I’m sure the work you do on this channel is nothing compared to the work you do IRL. 👊
Appreciate your videos. They have helped me to understand more about reloading with buckshot. Thanks
My pleasure Bruce...
I'm going to try this load today,
I have several old shotguns that only shoot the 2&3\4" shells, and all you're other load suggestions have Been outstanding,
Thanks for sharing,
I was helping a buddy of mine put up stands yesterday with a new club he joined this year. I just can't work outside anymore until it finally starts to cool off. Those 105+ heat indexes just wear me down too. I'm a heavy guy, 50's, quit smoking for several years now but smoked for 24. The humidity keeps me from breathing some days. But after about noon that sun coming straight down on me wins every time. That's why hunting is so popular in the South. It's the first you can go outside. Reverse hibernation.
LOL!! That's a perfect diagnosis Doc!!
Thanks Wade! Really enjoy these buckshot vids.
The brass length also was there , because powder could burn through the paper hulls with the larger charges in field loads.
For self defense, I am using 32g of long shot in a Remington Nitro hull, Cheddite primer, Rem RP wad, 12 pellets from Marty's mold, no buffer, patterns fantastic in std full choke, Speed is 1430 fps. Pellets cast from Wheel Weights.
Thanks Wade for the great videos plus I just used the discount you provided at Marty's Arms to purchase a #4 and 00 combo mold!
Awesome sauce!! You're gonna love it.
You are not kidding on the part "I am using stuff that you guys can maybe get your hands on." Its rough out there for components.
Yeah! It's gone from impossible to only ridiculous to find components now-a-days.
@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors Wade I made some #1 BP NP #1 buckshot loads last night using clear Fiochi hulls + Nobel primers exactly what you were making in the video. Will try them today. I am glad BP supports you with products, as things get more rough and maybe some ideas. Put out a wish list of items you might need in channel and I bet viewers might send extras (if it gets that bad) I have 0000 steel buckshot I would love to see you load and take to the Bubba range for a test.
Great job wade
Nice video Wade! I laugh when I hear someone talk about needing a high brass to make their semi-auto work right. Brass height, hull color, and even brand has nothing to do with the hull. Basewad, basewad, and basewad one more time. That tells you what hull you have right there. Keep em coming. God Bless
Great channel this guy has helped my reloading a great deal
Another great video
You mentioned selling hulls, Wade. The way to do it is through UPS... Along with live ammo. That's how the GunBroker guys do it.
yeah, I used to sell hulls a while back but my supply dried up... thanks buddy!
I have buckets of hulls that are branded federals but are really Rio. Had enough dumb luck to order a bunch of rio primers just before things went sideways
Great vid!!
Another outstanding vid bubba
Great video
A Wade, thanks for the information, this really good stuff. I reload my rifle and handguns, but I want start shotgun as well. Just a correction, your energy is 1/2 x mass x speed ^2. That tell you that for energy sake, speed has the biggest contribution factor. Energy transfer is key though, you can have lots of energy, but it would do no good if it does not get transfered. Larger projectles would transfer energy better than smaller. So it is a trade off that can be optimized by the shape and design of the projectile (bullet, pellet, slug...etc)
Bam 30 cal will stack by three's in the green short wad I do it for my 2" short loads !
Good video. Enjoyed the video! Keep em coming!
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Best buckshot size for defense. I would like to do some experiments with a mix of #1 and #4 buck too.
Thanks for the video
Do some with HS6
I an trying to get some HS6!
now i have to go out and get some longshot to try out this loading i have about 40 pounds of #1 buck and i know i can make lots more your slug loads for the lee slugs have been great thinking i might be doing some loading next week if i can find some powder
"I'm trying to show loads with things you guys can actually get"
MG42 wad..."Hold my beer"...Alliant Steel from the other vids "I got you dawg"
Great video as always keep up the great work
Wade, question on chokes. I see you usually use the Kicks Buck standard full. My understanding is that choke was designed for factory buckshot that doesn’t use plastic shot cup wads. You are getting excellent performance with your plastic shot cup wads consistently in both your Stoeger and Rem 870. Can you comment? Thanks -Nick
The design concept behind the Kicks chokes (as well as a lot of others) is to slow the wad to allow the pellets to advance ahead of the wad thus minimizing the chance for the wad to scatter the pellets as the gas escapes the barrel; Hence the ported tube. But, the short answer is Yes, the chokes were designed for factory type rounds but the chokes do their job and grab and slow any wad passing thru it! I like the Full choke but I have shot thru the Lite full as well with excellent performance, especially with the larger pellets sizes like #000 & #0000!
For heavy thick non toxic wads (TPS, TUWR, etc.) I find the Kicks is best. For the target lead wads, like the claybuster clones or factory, I find factory chokes are best. The kicks shreds the target wads, which in turn gives me poor patterns.
#1 is super hard to find and the 20 pellet factory load was a sure deer stopper. But I had no idea that they were not using true .30 caliber pellets until I saw this video. That was great intel to have,thank you for putting that out there for us old school buckshot hunters to know. Do you ever sell any of the 14/15 pellet #1 true .30 caliber loads that you make? If so, I would be interested in getting some. I'm shooting a remington 870 21" barrel and a stoeger m2000 26 " barrel both with a patternmaster wad stopping long range choke. That choke was the best I ever ran across for shooting buckshot. I love it,but the deer hate it!! It would be great if i could send those # 1's after them again!!
Also I have 700x, green dot, long shot, clays, steel, imr red. Any videos on those powders would be awesome. I’ll be stalking your videos to find any
I got about 1000 of the Rio hulls just can’t find no Rio primers.
Do you have a good local gun shop you recommend? I live in Great Falls/Chester and I need a new shop for purchasing and gun smithing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Love the videos been watching you for 5 years now I think it’s awesome seeing some local boys doing big things
I wish that we did Taylor... Our local shop has been a disappointment to folks like me!
Hey wade! Love the videos keep them coming! Got a question for ya, is Herco powder hot enough for any buckshot loads?
Hey brother! Yes, Herco is excellent for loads up to 1.5 ozs! I have loaded many buckshot rounds with Herco. It really works well in 2 3/4" rounds!
Tell me about it nothing's out there for sale
Do you load an 10 gauge if so what works the best
You gotta send him one and the materials
I don't have access to a 10 ga Jonanthan! I wish that I did...
I found some old .36 cal. Lead balls from my old black powder pistol days , I also have some Federal white 2.75" hull & Winchester AA wads . If I cut the petals off I can get 8 in the shell . I'm using 33 grains of Longshot powder . I haven't had a chance to try them yet . But was wondering what your thoughts were on that load . My shot gun is a Mossberg 500 with 28" bbl and mod. Choke . I also have an 18" bbl for same gun cylinder bore .
that load will work but I would start at 29 grains and work up from there. sometimes the hotter rounds will scatter the pattern.
I've noticed in a few of your videos when you tumble the buckshot.. It's pretty and clean, sometimes powder coated. I've noticed it's never dirty with graphite. I bought 2 bags of BAM from Ballistic Products...it's loaded with graphite. I've read back and forth about it. What's your thoughts on the graphite?
Most of my shot is loaded in a full-length wad so no real need to do more than give the shot a good polish! The graphite gives an extra layer of protection for those that load a conventional style round. I load my BAM buckshot as is! It's a little messy but no worries!
Hello Bubba. Just recently found your channel. Learning a lot so far! I purchased a reloader and a whole mess of once fired gun club 2 3/4 12 ga. Shells and Claybusters Fig 8 1 1/8 wads on Craigslist at the start of COVID. I am looking to put together some buckshot loads. Is it possible to use what I have or would I need to get different wads to load buckshot? Thanks
Mr Wade hope all is good. Thank you for your information and knowledge. I usually shoot 20 ga due to shoulder problems.. Would this work in a 20ga or need something different. Thanks in advance.
Hey Wade, I see you have some Clays powder on your bench, have you worked up any loads for it?
That is a low brass hull correct for buckshot?
Low brass hulls?
Where is a good marketplace to buy used hulls?
Ballistic products, and precision reloading have once fired hulls in stock
Ballistic Products usually gets Winchester AA and Federals as used hulls from what I've seen.
I recently bought AAHS Hulls from BPI and clay usher wads from SCHEELS. Four hundred hulls to be exact and 4 different bags of 500 clay buster wads of various type for AA hulls. This was about2 months ago. Can’t find shotshell primers anywhere except gun broker and I’m not paying overinflated prices for primers.
All the fellows below have it right! BP and Precision have em in stock now!
Will corn mill work like the buffer does
it prolly will! I haven't tried it yet.
Where do you get you're you're lead at to load with
Usually you can find a local tire store that will either give you or sell you scrap wheel weights.
Thanks for the info sir
@@brucelewis1017 very welcome!
Mr. Wade do your sell your buckshot ?
Hi wade, quick question. Would the MG42 wads be good for #4 buckshot as well? I’m trying to pick a good wad for #1 and #4, as well as steel BB loads.
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Good video..you sure those new blue hulls are not Cleaver's..? Thanks Wade
I have seen the Cleavers before. But what I have are the Mirage hulls (Rio)
@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors ten four..cleaver has a mirage as well..and a Beaver Cleaver too if i remember it right..😁😁😁😌😂😌😌😂
@@camwinston5248 that's right!!
@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors 😁.. a little levity for the day !!!😂😂😁 God bless !! Praise the Lord an pass the ammunition !!
Hi Mr. Wade, trying to understand fps being greater than your reloads. So dose the slower fps in your reloads aid in the tight groups over the faster factory loads ?
sometimes the velocity can make all of the difference when it comes to performance! I have loaded some awesome performers that are moving 1500 fps! it's all about finding the balance with all loads.
is this load considered low recoil or it hits hard?
No, these rounds would be like a standard load! Not hot nor low recoil.
@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors Thanks for your reply! I see your load sheet update 2022 increased powder for Longshot from 27grains to 29grains. (2 3/4Fiocchi, #1 buck, CB1138-12 WAD).
Wade you run 27-28 gr of long shot religiously as a long range. I’ve seen loads that run 37-38gr of long shot pursuing 1500-1600 FPS. I know your stover 300 is only a 3” chamber but for a guy who has a 3 1/2” chamber I’ve seen the pressures we’re around 11000. Does that seem about right? I have a load with 38 hrs long shot, in a 3” cheddite hull. FS12 gas seal and milar wrap with 18 31cal pellets. BP original buffer. My gun is an3 1/3 chamber. Looking forward a professional opinion. I know it wouldn’t blow my gun up unless it hits around 55000 psi. Anyways wouldn’t mind your opinion on this. They seem like a wackandstack hammer hammer!
I've never found any high velocity loads that pattern worth a damn. Keeping velocities around 1200 have patterned best for me. Buckshot pellets have the aerodynamics of a fat kid so they don't hold supersonic velocities very long, so at long ranges loads starting at 1500 going any faster than loads starting 1200. That's just my philosophy, if I want more powerful loads I use ones with more pellets
No shotgun can handle 55,000 psi.
Max SAMMI pressures for shotguns is 11,500 psi. I haven't seen any published loads that are any higher than 11,200 psi.
At 55,000 psi your talking high pressure rifle chamber pressures. In a shotgun at 55,000 psi your talking about a bomb.
@@denisdegamon8224 no published data but sammi did testing where they reached 55000 psi to intentionally blow up a shotgun. They can handle a lot of pressure. They proved that it takes ALOT of error to explode a shotgun and the published loads are a safety net but you can load them to higher pressures. Your chambering will determine your psi. But sticking to sammi specs is the safest option. You lose hull integrity before you’ll ever hurt your chamber
@@andersonj1each26
Top loads in a 30-06 don't reach but 50,000 psi. SAMMI pressure limits set for a shotgun are 11,500 psi. At what you stated at 55,000 psi is closer to the maximum pressures for magnum rifle cartidges.
That is almost 4.5 times the max pressure for shotguns. I never heard of any such testing that a shotgun can handle a 55,000 psi load without destroying a shotgun. Barrel steel in shotguns are no where the thickness of rifle cartridges. If such a test exists, please post it, I am sure everyone would like to see such foolishness. At these pressures many older mitary bolt action rifles would experience catastrophic failure.
I do agree that SAMMI specs have a small percentage of fudge factor built in to protect fools. There is alot of very bad information out there on the internet, by self proclaimed experts, but go ahead and believe what you will. Don't kid yourself believing that, it won't end well for you and anyone around you.
I would suggest that you call real expert's in any of the major powder companies or even Ballistic Products and see that they say about what would happen at 55,000 psi in any shotgun. They have sophiscated equipment for testing loads.
PS: a gun may not blow up on the first round. Maybe even not after multiple rounds. However, there is severe damage being done to a firearm.....it's called metal fatigue. Over time such fatigue can cause a shotgun to blow up with even a standard loading. The military learned this during WW2 with artillery pieces after extensive firings of even standard loads.
@@denisdegamon8224 what! Hahaha your funny. I have data that has 61k for pressures in 06. Hell 270 with 60k PUBLISHED. Couple grains over with certain powders and your in 70k. You don’t have to agree with what I posted but facts are facts. Simple google search will prove my comment. Also disprove yours 🤦🏻♂️
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Hey Gennady! I'm not a MEC dealer.
What would happen with 12- .30 cal round balls with 33grains of longshot ? Cuz yea I’ve loaded mine hot ! :(
yeah, maybe a little hot! But not dangerous IMHO.