yes you can adjust the powder in a mec bushing by adding tape to the inside of the bushing to lessen the amount...if you need more powder...you go to the next size bushing and add tape to lessen it to the correct amount
i like your little operation ! nice and Compact usually everyone i know personally that Reloads fill up a 6 foot table or Workbench i bet if you bought a small electric motor off Ebay (cheap) you could fabricate a Auger for your Hopper that should eliminate you having to bang on it between dispensing. i’ve seen little motors for under $20.00 that can runoff of batteries or even a plugged in AC to DC converter i personally save and reuse Converters from kids Toys , Cell Phones , and electronics but those can be cheap universal ones at Walmart or wherever
Sounds complicated. I like to just keep it simple. And tapping the side just make sure we are getting all of the drops close as possible. Good idea tho 👌
If you're shot isn't at or about half a pellet above the wad lip, put an overshot card on the top of the shot column and then crimp. You will not only get a better crimp, but you're also sealing the round that much better. Also with new hulls, rotate the round about 1/3 and reapply the final crimp 2 more times, rotating 1/3 each time. Your crimps should stay tight.
Have you try 2 3/4" hull before for you waterfowl loads? Im now finally reloading some steel load the one I am doing is from tps load data from ballistic products. 2 3/4" cheddite hull/ primer, 23 gr of longshot powder ( i put 22.8 gr for the first 8 test loads which im planing on going down to 22 gr for the rest of my 192 loads), 2 3/4" tps wads, 1 1/8 oz 492 gr of steel shot ( for the first 8 i use daisy bbs which are b shot .170 mm. I'll be load the rest with 4 or 3 for ducks), fold crimp going at 1250 fps with 10,800 psi with 23 gr of powder at 22 gr it should get the load down to 10,330 psi which should keep the load in safe psi.
Not really, I'm a 3 or 3 1/2 hull for waterfowl. Here in the Prairie the shots are away longer than we like. Not much cover to hide behind. But I do 2 3/4 for doves.
I'm sure you found out by now, but there was no powder in that first one!! The irony or your "Not responsible for your stupidity" description had me rolling!! Did you have any success with the teals?
How do you know how much to put in it and if you wanted it faster or what you would need for big ducks and geese and how to know what psi to not go over
@@willrisinger8784 that's why shotgun reloaders all ways go with published loads. And I all ways weigh my powder and shot drops. Precision reloading has there load data at the bottom of there website for steel shot. And it's free. And I go by published load data.
Hah! It is in SELFIE MODE -> mirrored :D nice crap! I was thinking that I get little bit drunk at cold grill party but I'm not! :D All the best in 2022!
@@livingintheprairie1517 dude, I;m grill man .., no one cares about freezing asshole who take care about meat ... ;) until they realise it is best what they can eat ;-)
Where did you get load data on using longshot with steel loads? I bought a Lee Load All 2 and the Lyman 5th edition shotshell reloading handbook, and neither of them have load data for steelshot loaded with longshot. I've found some longshot on sale online, and would love to pick some up and start reloading, but I also don't want to blow up my shotgun..... any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
@livingintheprairie1517 is there any chance you can send me a picture of the Longshot data you do have, I really don't wanna blow my face off and I can't find any
@@tylerrettig4224 Ballistic Products has Longshot load data if you look at the TPS wads. It will have a link with shot data for just about ever hull, shot size and type, powder, etc. but it's all for loads with their TPS wads.
i dont see hodgdon longshot listed in the loading data on the percision reloading load data sheet. is it listed or comparable to something else? or am i missing something? i mostly see blue dot and 800x. any advise would be appreciated as im new to this
It should be the very 1st page of the TUPRW123 wad sheet for 12 gauge 3" steel data it is like it's like the 4th one on the page.. And I will read you what it says what it says it says Chad 209 long shot 26.5 -T UPRW123 wadcolumn XYFE25020 filler filler wide and that's an ounce in an 8th steel shot.
@clks1165 I'm using the patternmaster classic extended range. One of the boys is using the snow plow, and the other is got a code black goose. But all patternmaster
Here is what I've discovered with this loader/plastic powder bushings/Longshot combo....static builds up in the bushing and powder clings to the inside of the bushing, so after about 20 rounds, you'll start throwing low powder charges that are about 1.5gr lite. I've solved it by going with the next size larger bushing, throwing 20 or so charges to let the powder build up inside the bushing, then start loading. Of course, you can modify any of the bushings with a round file to make them a little larger or nail polish to make them throw less. I only load 2.75 BB in mine, so I've custom modified a couple of the powder bushings to throw 23.5 or 25.5gr depending on the wad I'm using (read the one I can find at the time).
@@mightyjoeyoung1390 Wish it were that easy. I've tried it and it doesn't work. It isn't static cling, it is that LS is "oily" and physically sticks to plastic pieces and forms a hard coating of power grains, it'll stick like that to the powder hopper as well.
@@livingintheprairie1517 I'm gonna load 1000 BB up in STS hulls with titewad for goose and duck. I use a Dillon 750 for my metallic reloading but I bought one of these on a chance because I just won't use it that much...if it doesn't work out then I'll get a MEC and put this one in the prepper pile
@@thastinger345 love my MEC's got the 12g 3.5 and the 10g. But it's pretty hard to keep up with 6 guys that I feed for shells but it's nice to because they all ways find components.
Thank you sooo much for this Info & Great Video ... Keep'em rolling !
yes you can adjust the powder in a mec bushing by adding tape to the inside of the bushing to lessen the amount...if you need more powder...you go to the next size bushing and add tape to lessen it to the correct amount
i like your little operation ! nice and Compact usually everyone i know personally that Reloads fill up a 6 foot table or Workbench i bet if you bought a small electric motor off Ebay (cheap) you could fabricate a Auger for your Hopper that should eliminate you having to bang on it between dispensing. i’ve seen little motors for under $20.00 that can runoff of batteries or even a plugged in AC to DC converter i personally save and reuse Converters from kids Toys , Cell Phones , and electronics but those can be cheap universal ones at Walmart or wherever
Sounds complicated. I like to just keep it simple. And tapping the side just make sure we are getting all of the drops close as possible. Good idea tho 👌
If you're shot isn't at or about half a pellet above the wad lip, put an overshot card on the top of the shot column and then crimp. You will not only get a better crimp, but you're also sealing the round that much better. Also with new hulls, rotate the round about 1/3 and reapply the final crimp 2 more times, rotating 1/3 each time. Your crimps should stay tight.
Great video thanks man I appreciate your video just getting into this and it's a great video for learning thanks!
If you reduce the charge back to 25 grains the PSI should drop to about 10700 and the FPS should be about 1150 to 1225.
Have you try 2 3/4" hull before for you waterfowl loads? Im now finally reloading some steel load the one I am doing is from tps load data from ballistic products. 2 3/4" cheddite hull/ primer, 23 gr of longshot powder ( i put 22.8 gr for the first 8 test loads which im planing on going down to 22 gr for the rest of my 192 loads), 2 3/4" tps wads, 1 1/8 oz 492 gr of steel shot ( for the first 8 i use daisy bbs which are b shot .170 mm. I'll be load the rest with 4 or 3 for ducks), fold crimp going at 1250 fps with 10,800 psi with 23 gr of powder at 22 gr it should get the load down to 10,330 psi which should keep the load in safe psi.
Not really, I'm a 3 or 3 1/2 hull for waterfowl. Here in the Prairie the shots are away longer than we like. Not much cover to hide behind. But I do 2 3/4 for doves.
If you're already at max powder load (and longshot is VERY pressure sensitive) you can't just go yeah it's only a grain of and "It's the ballpark"...
There is no max or minimum it is what the book says but there's all ways a but
In your opinion, what shot size would you use for all ducks in your 1 1/8 oz load 3 or 4?
My boy turned me on to 1 shot been reloading that. Patterns great 👍 really fills in the holes
I scale weigh all ny reloads. Cannot trust the Lee load all 2 bushings at all...
I'm sure you found out by now, but there was no powder in that first one!!
The irony or your "Not responsible for your stupidity" description had me rolling!!
Did you have any success with the teals?
Yes we found that shell . One of my boys pointed that out to me to.
Do you still use this load to this day? If so, what is your opinion on this load?
Still using it for early duck. It drops them so it works.
Ehhhh with steel loads just best hand measuring, it takes longer but is safer
How do you know how much to put in it and if you wanted it faster or what you would need for big ducks and geese and how to know what psi to not go over
Like how do you know what it’s supposed to be
@@willrisinger8784 that's why shotgun reloaders all ways go with published loads. And I all ways weigh my powder and shot drops. Precision reloading has there load data at the bottom of there website for steel shot. And it's free. And I go by published load data.
Is that Lee loader back to front as he’s crimping on the left primer on the right or just a new design 🤔
It's the same just reversed son taught me how to turn the camera around
Ok it had me fooled 😂
What is the PSI rated at? I was thinking about lowering it by one to 1 1/2 grains and see what it will do/
The sheet say 11,440
Hah!
It is in SELFIE MODE -> mirrored :D nice crap! I was thinking that I get little bit drunk at cold grill party but I'm not! :D
All the best in 2022!
Maybe you should have another. Cheers 🍻
Wait a minute what are you doing watching TH-cam at a party. 🤔
@@livingintheprairie1517 I will do, few days to #44...
@@livingintheprairie1517 dude, I;m grill man .., no one cares about freezing asshole who take care about meat ... ;) until they realise it is best what they can eat ;-)
@@abrampl chicken pot pie here. Its a cold windy night on the prairie. 👍
Where did you get load data on using longshot with steel loads? I bought a Lee Load All 2 and the Lyman 5th edition shotshell reloading handbook, and neither of them have load data for steelshot loaded with longshot. I've found some longshot on sale online, and would love to pick some up and start reloading, but I also don't want to blow up my shotgun..... any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Ballistic reloading has some data on long shot precision used to but they took it down.
@livingintheprairie1517 is there any chance you can send me a picture of the Longshot data you do have, I really don't wanna blow my face off and I can't find any
Send me an email address
Was on Precision reloading website have steel reload data for free. But they took down there longshot data 😕
@@tylerrettig4224 Ballistic Products has Longshot load data if you look at the TPS wads. It will have a link with shot data for just about ever hull, shot size and type, powder, etc. but it's all for loads with their TPS wads.
I may have missed it, but what is the velocity on this load
The book say 1200fps but my chronograph says it's closer to 1300
i dont see hodgdon longshot listed in the loading data on the percision reloading load data sheet. is it listed or comparable to something else? or am i missing something? i mostly see blue dot and 800x. any advise would be appreciated as im new to this
I see that they update there page. When they open I'll call down there and ask.
Well there saying that the longshot is making to high of a pressure so they remove it for now 🫤
@@livingintheprairie1517 thank you
is there any chance i could get you to email me a copy of what you are using for a data sheet?
That Lee sound like it’s a plastic toy
Yes it's cheap but it gets the job done and for 75 bucks it was a good start and I still use it more then my mec
Do they make this loader in a 28 Gauge?
I don't think so sorry
What is the load # on the Precision sheet? I don't see a load with longshot available when I look it up.
It should be the very 1st page of the TUPRW123 wad sheet for 12 gauge 3" steel data it is like it's like the 4th one on the page.. And I will read you what it says what it says it says Chad 209 long shot 26.5 -T UPRW123 wadcolumn XYFE25020 filler filler wide and that's an ounce in an 8th steel shot.
What chokes do you use?
My boys put patternmasters in about everything we shoot.
@@livingintheprairie1517 modified or full choke?
@clks1165 I'm using the patternmaster classic extended range. One of the boys is using the snow plow, and the other is got a code black goose. But all patternmaster
What powder are you using for this?
Longshot by Hodgbon
Here is what I've discovered with this loader/plastic powder bushings/Longshot combo....static builds up in the bushing and powder clings to the inside of the bushing, so after about 20 rounds, you'll start throwing low powder charges that are about 1.5gr lite. I've solved it by going with the next size larger bushing, throwing 20 or so charges to let the powder build up inside the bushing, then start loading.
Of course, you can modify any of the bushings with a round file to make them a little larger or nail polish to make them throw less.
I only load 2.75 BB in mine, so I've custom modified a couple of the powder bushings to throw 23.5 or 25.5gr depending on the wad I'm using (read the one I can find at the time).
That's why I smack it trying to get the powder and shot to level out and drop
Just take a dryer sheet and rub down everything the powder touches and you'll be able to load hundreds of rounds before needing to do it again.
@@mightyjoeyoung1390 Wish it were that easy. I've tried it and it doesn't work. It isn't static cling, it is that LS is "oily" and physically sticks to plastic pieces and forms a hard coating of power grains, it'll stick like that to the powder hopper as well.
And that's why I give it a good taps before moving on. But lately I have been using the lee perfect powder measure you can drop that pretty good
How many smacks will that plastic loader take?
Don't know but I'm going to find out. First year is done and I'm think about a 1000 rounds went through it. But for 60 bucks can't beat that.
@@livingintheprairie1517 u're right, that is very economical
@@livingintheprairie1517 I'm gonna load 1000 BB up in STS hulls with titewad for goose and duck. I use a Dillon 750 for my metallic reloading but I bought one of these on a chance because I just won't use it that much...if it doesn't work out then I'll get a MEC and put this one in the prepper pile
@@thastinger345 love my MEC's got the 12g 3.5 and the 10g. But it's pretty hard to keep up with 6 guys that I feed for shells but it's nice to because they all ways find components.
What's the reason for the felt spacer? Thanks.
Filler
@@livingintheprairie1517 Do you go with the 1/4" spacer?
@@brainn3057 yes it a 20g 1/4" spacer felt wad. And you can find them at precision reloading and they are XYFE25020. Or some kinda felt wad
@@brainn3057 and I put a shot card over everything helps the crimp and helps keep moisture out. Happy hunting and be safe
@@livingintheprairie1517 Thanks, appreciate that. I'm going to order these along with wads. Hopefully get in a few more duck hunts.
Loads of panicky people on pressures my benelli m1 super ninety will let rip at around 50,000 psi you would have to put c4 in there to hit that.