Battle Of The HOLY GRAIL Rolex Daytona's
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Black! So classy so elegant! 🔥🔥🔥😍😍😍
Such a nice watch 😉👌🏻
@@thehonestwatchdealer Totally! I personally also would say people should look at them in person. In my opinion the black one looks like a solid watch on photos, but really KILLS it in person! Love how the dials are shiny, adds that extra elegance thats not always evident when just looking at them on photos.
Black looks so much better white looks like a toy😮
@@ceceperks16no white looks better
Agreed👍. The Black looked stealthy and White one funky and pops more for attention. I'll pick the black one.
Really enjoy your videos, you give good honest sound content and advice about the watch hobby, I bought a Panda (2016) in 2018, used two years old, full set in good condition and paid $19,000, I just fell in love with the mirror ceramic bezel on top of that white dial, I never imagined it would command the prices it does now and so comfortable on the wrist although a bit hard to read with my senior eyes but looking at it makes you smile!
Thank you Rene, so pleased you enjoy them. The panda 🐼 is such a great watch and one if the most desired watches go a reason. That’s what it should do …. Make you smile congratulations 👌🏻
My 1999 Zenith Panda has done nothing but go up in price since the day I brought it home from the dealer! I think it is about a 7 bagger at this point!
Great Video, like always. Greetings from Bavarian - Germany.
Thank you very much! Greetings from the Uk 🇬🇧
I have chosen to have the black dial first, as my daily watch, while I am planning to buy the white dial later for collection.
Great Video Charlie . I love both. And wouldn't mind either one. But the panda for me has a slight edge.
I was born in 1963 So the Daytona has been on my list for a while.
Thank you Doug, glad you enjoyed it 🙌🏼 Even more reason to get yourself a Panda 🐼 at some point. They are such a nice watch 💯🚀
@@thehonestwatchdealer I couldn't agree more👍
It’s not a panda. Why do watch newbs keep calling this a panda?
@@986CThat is just the nickname given to it. Just like the green submariners are called… Starbucks, Hulk, and Kermit. You also have the Pepsi, Root beer, Batman, Batgirl, etc., given to other Rolex’s. Just the way it is.
I didn’t think I would but I just got the black one from my AD and I’m obsessed! 🤩
Stunning model mate congratulations - stunning model! 🙌
Both awesome watches. White is my preference.
Totally agree Bill, panda 🐼 all the way 🙌🏼
I’d take the black for sure, both look ace though. I had a two tone Daytona BMoP that I sold. Only used the stop watch function once to time the dog going for a dump in the garden and back again during a thunderstorm :)
Haha put it to good use I see! 🤣🤣
Black Dial for me and the Gold Daytona you were wearing are to my liking.
Great choice and the Pikachu is 😮💨🚀
Lovely watches Charlie as usual mate , I’m as you know a sub man but I do like the Daytona , thank you for the video 👍🏻
Thank you as always mate. Glad you like the video.
I know you are a Sub Guy all the way 🙌🏼 😉
Hope your well 👌🏻
I really love your vidoes ! Well done and great work!
What would you prefer the Panda or your personal one the one you are wearing the oysterflex Daytona ? Thankyou. My next one for the collection.
Thank you mate I really appreciate that! Oh both great options, OysterFlex all the way for me! 👌🏻
@@thehonestwatchdealer Thankyou for the reply. Have a great day !
All three stunning. I have the black but that vid made we want the white!
Glad you liked the video .. haha the black you have is so nice and they are both winners but the panda is the one for me 🐼🏆
I had the black ceramic first, sold it two weeks later for white and never looked back. In a perfect world having both would be best. I will say though the white ceramic is a different ball game than the black.
@@number36420 they are both lovely but I have to agree the panda for me is different gravy !! 🐼
Totally agree. White dial Daytona looked way too small on the wrist and respectfully more feminine. I ended up getting the black dial at retail. I’m still on waiting list for white dial, not for me but my wife. It looks amazing on her.
Would make a great set of his and hers watches! I hope you get the call soon 👌🏻
My kid brother passed away on 10 January this year and left me among other things his lovely watch collection of which his Rolex Daytona panda was the crowning glory and that's the reason I'm watching these video's, doesn't matter to me what it's worth as I don't wear it and will never sell it, just pleased my brother had such exquisite taste. PS I wear my old Seiko 5 sports watch more befitting of my station in life.
Very sorry to hear that Peter, absolutely - sounds like he had great taste indeed, cherish those watches forever! 🙌
Both are great places
Thank you 🙌🏼
I honestly don’t think anyone would take their Rolex to either dive (submariner) or running for the stopwatch function. My problem with Daytona is it looks very busy, but the white dial is beautiful tho
I love the black dial, much more understated & fits my lifestyle more
Spot on there yes, goes with more too 👌🏻
Stunning watch mate, enjoy it!
I like the black
Both are great. Panda for me but if the AD calls me offering me a black one, I’d be there picking up before we hang up. Lol. I actually own the Panda but I paid secondary market price for it.
Same for me but I agree … you get that call for the ceramic Daytona you are running down there saying Yes Please !! Haha
Both are beautiful but I chose the black dial. The Panda, no doubt is cool but it’s more common and I believe the black is slightly more classy. It’s great on a leather strap too
Yes certainly can’t go wrong with either!
The new reference models, the black certainly does look much nicer! 🙌
@@thehonestwatchdealer I have the former model. Have yet to see the new although I am not enamored with the steel rim surrounding the bezel.
@@racebannon2332 Ah I think when you see it in person you will think it is a great addition 👌
@@thehonestwatchdealer I hope I’ll have an opportunity to see one let alone purchase it lol.
@@racebannon2332 Haha fingers crossed for you 🤞
Love em both. Love the Panda more 👍🏻
Both would benefit from a mm or two more in width.
I’m with you 💯 and yes if they were 41/42mm it would be better for me selfishly haha 🔥
Panda Daytona is No.1 and if that’s unaffordable get the look at a fraction of the price with the Tudor BB Baytona(you even get the date:)
I have to agree … not much beats it 🚀
The Tudor black bay is such good value for money I love mine 💪🏻🙌🏼
Ive the white one, incredible watch.
Such a stunning model mate, enjoy it! 🙌
Clean factory doing stunning work these days.
Thank you Andrew 👌🏻
Picked up a solid white gold Daytona today with black and diamond dial from an AD. Just walked in a asked if they had anything available and they offered it to me. I had 0 spend history with this shop 🥳
how much did you pay for it?
@@jm-pj3ul retail at £36,800
Then you woke up.
I chose white dial with steel bezel or two tone with Gold Bezel and white Dial . I just dont get why they put Ceramic bezel on a high end watch . IMHO
Steel and Gold white dial yes, and the pre ceramic is such a nice watch but more an old school look. The ceramic in my opinion is a better looking model as it has a more modern and sporty look 🙌🏼
Absolute beauts. My only issue (personally) is they wear too small. That is the fault of me ;-) not the watch. I prefer the Pre-ceramic on the Black dial, I have the 116520. I think the Black on White of the Ceramic Panda works perfectly. Great vid as always mate!
Thank you mate glad you enjoyed it 🙌🏼
Same for me I’m afraid .. they wear very small on my wrist.
Alot of people say the same …. that they prefer black in the pre-ceramic and white panda in the ceramic.
Take care mate 😎👊🏻
Would nice if they made a 43 mm..40 isn't even 40 and looks very small unless under 7 inch wrist.and or slight frame.
The Black is going to be a more sought after model! Why, the clue in the font "BIGRED"🤫
😉👌🏻
I'm fairly new to watch collecting. I have a Rolex Yacht Master 40 w/Bright Blue dial and just got a Daytona, two tone, black dial with diamonds. How easy are those to get and how popular is that Daytona model?
The Yacht-Master I have covered in other videos. The Daytona is a stunning model and very sought after 👍🏻
@@thehonestwatchdealer Thank you for your response!. I actually wanted the Panda Daytona, but my AD called me 6 weeks after I put this on my "wish list", so I couldn't turn him down! I will hold onto it and pass it down to my kids.
I can’t believe what you just said about people calling because the second hand is not working referring to the chronograph, that tells you that people only buy Daytona’s to say the have one but actually don’t know anything about watches, how can you buy a Daytona for who knows how much without knowing how a chronograph works??.
You would be surprised Sergio. Thanks for watching 🙌🏼
Your Pikachu stole the show haha
Haha thanks mate, such a stunning timepiece isn't it! 🙌💯
You could have explained how to red the tachymeter.
Awesome watches, white dial is my personal preference as it’s a bit more legible.
Thank you 🙌🏼 I love the panda 🐼 too 🔥
I got a 2017 all black ceramic Daytona
Amazing piece congratulations 🙌🏼
Both are amazing. Because of the black bezel my choice is for Panda. If stell bezel 116520 my choice is for the black dial.
Ah excellent choices! You have great taste 👌
new to this...but what is the NFS model? its stunning!
It’s my daily! The stunning 18ct yellow gold Oysteflex Daytona ‘Pikachu’ - the 116518LN. It’s such an unbelievable model 🤩🙌🏻
I prefer by a lot the steel bezel ones , i have the two colors one is unused ,
The classic Steel bezel models are stunning. Will always be a favourite 👌🏻
I have the panda and honestly I can’t tell the time without my glasses, my eye sight not that bad, fine with my sub. Very busy dial, pointless complication, extremely expensive prefer my sub by far.
The Panda is just iconic
Most definitely! 🙌
Black dial looks nicer.
Great vid, I'll choose the white panda.
Great choice mate, such an iconic model! 🙌🏻
White for me Charlie but wouldn't really complain if I was offered the black .
NFS dear lord 😍😍😍😍😍😲
Same here white all the way and yes … still NFS !! Hahahaha
🤩👊🏻
They say the black dial can be hard to read the time. That true?
It is definitely harder to read than the white dial but I wouldn’t say hard to read 👍🏻
If 20 years ago I had purchased a Panda how much would I have paid and what could I sell it for in mint condition today? What if I had put the same amount of money into an S&P500 index tracker fund for the past 20 years?
Hard to say with the compounding interest of the S&P500. Very tough one!
Black is way better, sorry man it’s true. I’ve owned both multiple times always trying to prefer the Panda due to collectibility, just can’t do it. The white dial is broken up by the black ceramic bezel making it appear smaller, it’s also a bit dainty or cartoonish when compared to the stealth Darth Vader-looking black variant 💯
Darth Vader indeed! 👌🏻 both cracking watches, I can see what you mean! 👍
I broke down and just picked up the Panda too, now there’s no more debate as I own BOTH ✔️
Have you got a panda new for sale ? If so price please
Yes we have a 2023 model £31,450
I'm buying the 116503 next year!
Congratulations mate, best of luck 🤞
When I make my first million I'm buying a 116518LN Rolex. Looks amazing.
Hope you do it .. unbelievable watch 👌🏻
I disagree I don't think leaving on the stop watch Has wear and tear on the watch. Where do you get your information because these watches are used to being beat up. Wait you only have 8k subs.
Black all the way for me. I wonder if Black will ever become the higher value version, in say 20 or 30 years....?
Excellent choice, so clean!
You never know, trends do change!
Where did you have the custom tray the watches are sitting on made? Beautiful tray
Thank there is a guy on Instagram that makes them for us jewellers. He’s very good 👌🏻
What’s his Instagram ?
@@number36420 it was years ago can’t find his details sorry. He is active on Insta so shouldn’t be too hard to find 👍🏻
@@thehonestwatchdealer Thanks for nothing!
The Panda is more sporty and maybe a bit more feminine as well. The black one is a bit more elegant. I would say I prefer the black one, and for a panda, maybe I would chose a Black Bay Chrono.
Black. Black on black just works. Everyday.
Nice 👌🏻
Honestly, the white one. Not because it is necessarily so much better, but because I have so many black dial watches in my collection.
Ah yes it would great an excellent choice to throw in the mix against your black dials 👌
my fav is still the 116506
Oooh now your taking !! 😍 got one in stock at the minute with the baguette dial 💎🚀
@@thehonestwatchdealer how much if you dont mind me asking?
@@ellevp7196 £110
I actually prefer the black face one.
I don't know which one to choose, but I finally purchased the black dial because it cost less.
Both unbelievable watches 🔥
Two points:
1. I believe it does NOT hurt anything to leave the chrono constantly running.
2. To me, the white dial (Panda) appears LARGER on the wrist than the black dial.
White dial because it is easier to read the sub-dials.
Love the white dial 🚀
What year should we buy as an investment; does it matter?
Either the very first year of production or the very last 👍
Nice watches for sure, but my cell phone has a clock on it which keep pretty accurate time. Plus I can make calls and surf the internet.
This is true and you can also get an Apple Watch that does this too … but they are not a beautifully crafted Rolex 🏆
@@thehonestwatchdealer - Yes. Agree. And Rolex watches seem to keep going up in value.
white 116 but 126 in black 👌
Excellent taste 👌🏻
The daytonas on the oyster flex band are better ( The one on your wrist !! ) That's the one
They are all extremely nice models but I do prefer an Oysterflex model myself 👍🏻
What size is your wrist? White is my choice but I do have a 7.25 wrist...
My wrist is 7 inches mate! Can wear a little small due to the imbalance of the shoulders but the new reference has more balance! I’d suggest trying one on before you buy 🙌🏻
i brought the black dial version i just didnt really like the white, looks more classy in black and bigger.
Congratulations mate, really stunning watch - Enjoy!
Hello. I have the opportunity to buy a brand new rose gold Daytona choc face on an oysterflex strap from an AD. Should I buy it?
Hi,
Yes yes yes !!!! Buy it 💯👏🏻
I thought I would love it, 2 years for it. I have a Yacht Master 2 and love it.
@@davidlaw2538 amazing 🙌🏼
Think it's the Fish Eye one. How do I send you a photo
@@davidlaw2538 wow !!! My number is on the website… www.theluxurywatchcompany.com
White dial looks bigger. White dials usually do
💯☑️
Ok, I've heard people say the white dial wears larger, and some people say the black dial wears larger. Apparently it's not as black and white (🤪) as some people try to make it out to be. I think the black dial wears larger.
I was looking for a retirement gift for myself and started looking at the Daytona. I was surprised how small the Daytona looked on my wrist, and I don't have big wrists. Not to mention how impossible the watch is to get at an AD.
Congratulations on your retirement. If you look at the Oysterflex range for the Daytona they look and wear much bigger. Hope this helps 👍🏻
What’s the price on the Beach models?
Anywhere from £65k to £100k depending on the combination … do you have one ?
@@thehonestwatchdealer Yes I have a blue one.
@@billbuss7542 very nice Bill my favorite one 👌🏻
@@thehonestwatchdealer are you selling yours?
@@FahimKhan-ov9ki I suppose everything is for for sale but I am struggling to part with it to be honest. I will let you know if I do 👌🏻
Black ! So I bought black ;)
👌🏻🙌 great choice!
Back in the 90’s my dad bought the black face for my brother and the white face for myself, they’re still brand new in the box never worn, wonder what the value is by now
Wow what a lovely gift from your father. He’s a great man 🏆 depends on the year but both are easily worth £40-£50K for the pair 😃👌🏻
If you would ever like to sell them please give me a call 😃
@@thehonestwatchdealer Are you mad? What a lowball offer! A pair of NOS unworn fullset 16520s would be more in the 80/100K range
@@kls1912 both partys would be winning like charlie sheen
how ironic to be saying the white dial alone could go for 35k, then proceeding to offer 40k for a pair of classic daytona
I like the black look way better
So clean isn’t it 👌🏻
IMHO Panda kicks ass anyday
Incredible isn't it, will always be the grail Daytona 👌
I take white anyday
White Gold Ghost or Meteor dial is my choice.
Both stunning models, great choices! 👌🏻
@@thehonestwatchdealer I agree with you about the Oyster flex band as well. Enjoying the videos. I’ve never owned a Daytona but have a Sub with date and a James Cameron 126660. The 116519 LN will be my next watch. Just need to pay retail. The gray market is just too Beaucoup.
@@mik3ymomo excellent collection you already have! You definitely need to add a Daytona to the collection 👌
Incredible but the Daytona does nothing for me, but that goes for all chrinographs. Every chrono I had is eventually gone. Simply do not enjoy the subdials and pointy extra buttons. Also do not like the tachymetre scale instead of a diving bezel.
Sure they are not to everyone’s taste but I do have to say most. There are plenty of models to choose to suit 👍🏻
@@thehonestwatchdealer for sure. I totally get the love for the watch. I really think I’m the weirdo here!
What about the
Daytona 116520 ?
Lovely watch is the pre-ceramic I love them 😍
@@thehonestwatchdealer
Circa 2008 , unworn box papers etc
What can I get for it ?
@@robertmitchell8630 if it is a genuine unworn full set we would pay between £18-£20k 👍🏻
@@thehonestwatchdealer
Thanks
Might be worth the trip over the pond
@@robertmitchell8630 yes it would be lovely to meet you. Your welcome 👍🏻
I got myself a 1992 daytona
Amazing 🤩
@@thehonestwatchdealer If I told you the story how I got it and how much for and the story of how the watch came to New Zealand .
Sorry bro, the tattoos overwhelm the watch, my bad I guess?
White Dial looks more clean and classic.
It is very classy looking on the white, you are right there! 🙌
panda is so beatiful
Such an iconic timepiece. You can see why its so unbelievably popular! 🙌
Black
Just got the black at 20k and white at 24k. How times have changed in 10 months
Very nice, congratulations 👌
Black face, as it matches my submariner date adjust.
👌🏻🙌
Panda 100%
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It is really hard to tell if you just trying to show off your arm tattoos or the watches.😁😁😂😂🤣🤣
Hahahaha the watches of course Mike 😜🤣🤣🤣🙌🏼
The 116528 Tahitian mother of pearl all yellow gold in my opinion is the nicest Daytona. Very rare dial. The john Mayer and the panda overrated
The Tahitian is a great dial, in fact we have one in stock at the minute reference 116503 steel and yellow gold 🙌🏼
He almost looks like a thug with his tattoos and muscles but speaks like an absolutely polite gentleman
Black one looks better in my opinion. White dial will always remind but will never be a Paul Newman. And it’s not about the premium.
The Black dial does look very clean 👌🏻🙌
Black!
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I like to buy things that I think look great despite what everyone else thinks looks great. Sometimes when I see someone wearing a Panda I think they bought it just because that is what they were told they should have. Ditto for Porsche 911’s…
@@zemanbuck Thats the best way to do it, to always go for what you like and will enjoy!
En cadran noir le nouveau modèle 126500 .. il n’y a pas d’équivalent … les sub dials apportent une finesse et une sublime harmonie au cadran .. en panda blanc … je trouve qu’elle est fade car à l’inverse elle a moins de caractère que le panda 116500 plus agressive et déjà bien plus inconique
Vous êtes là, le cadran noir est une combinaison tellement incroyable surtout sur la nouvelle référence.
But if you buy one around £30k, won't you wipe your face with it, surely it's maxed out on price?
Are there any year references that are better to get?
Panda any day
Great choice 👌🏻
Why people insist on calling the white dial a panda is beyond me. It’s not a panda.
Overtime.. watch the tables turn. Black will take over, at the end of the day, it still looks better.
Always possible! Looks incredibly clean with the black bezel and black dial 👌
Nah, there are many better options for black dial watch in Rolex. The black Daytona is just so illegible and crowdy. But the white one is so clean and one of its kind. Good distinctive contrast.
@@PrashantKumar-rn1ey Goes to show you haven't owned either. In real life, it really is the black that takes the cake. I have owned both and was let down by the panda, just hype carrying it on.
I don’t get it what is so special about Daytona. IMHO Explorer 1 is a way better watch
Everyone is entitled to their champion model and for you it is the Explorer ( I would guess for its simplicity) but for me it is the goat … The Daytona 🏆👍🏻
@@thehonestwatchdealer if Paul Newman wore a Timex, everyone would want that. The only Daytona I like is the platinum one, but I would never be able to afford that beauty 😊 Stainless steel Daytona is for Tiktokers, TH-camrs and Instagramers 😄
@@cookingwithwatches Yes and no .. he was supercool so would always be a trend setter and people will copy and emulate. The Platona is an unbelievable watch 👊🏻 and so is the steel Daytona both in their own right… we love them and so do the majority of watch people to be fair ☄️🤓
Nah. White looks much cleaner and has good contrast. Black looks very busy, reflective and not legible. If someone wants a black dial watch Rolex has many better options. But chronograph Panda is only one of its kind ❤
The Panda really is the holy grail isn’t it! 👌🏻
Nice video. Honestly at this point I wouldn't wear a Rolex in public if you have it to me for free. Only to sell for a Vacheron Overseas or a Grand Seiko. Their AD system is obnoxious. The movements are unremarkable. The "flex culture" of people who can only tell what the price on Chrono 24 and literally nothing more not something I saw coming. And if you consider a mass produced luxury item to be an investment you need to a sit down with a CFA or CFP.
All that being said the Daytona is the only Rolex that has consistently not result in a immediate haircut (the one many people who bought into the 2021-2022 Rolex bubble are taking now) the minute you walk out of an AD. The Daytona is the only current Rolex that has the design aesthetic that reminds you of what Rolex used to be when they made outstanding dials like those featured in John Goldberger's 100 Superlative Rolex book. Otherwise overpriced tool watch dials.
The Vacheron Overseas is such a nice watch and I agree the Rolex AD system is heavily flawed.
The Daytona is for me and always will be the outright champion and the best model in the Rolex range 🏆
Thanks for watching 🙌🏼
Black 😂
Not even a question black on black win by far
Great choice 👌🏻