Bal-Chatri Hawk Trap Building
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- The trapping of raptors is highly regulated in many countries around the world. Make sure you have the proper licensing and knowledge before pursuing this activity. Building a very effective, and affordable Bal-Chatri style hawk trap.
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Glad you asked, I have actually got a new video planned to show a few great mods on my BC trap. Compared to many of the falconers in my state, my BC technique is primitive. It works, but with my updates it's gonna be a whole lot better. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!
you did great job man. respect
roll, in fact, my proto type wheel trap got lodged in a fence across a ditch 45 feet down the road from where I threw it out the window!!!! I love that you have ideas, experimenting leads to innovation, if you ever make a bc and it works id love to check it out! thanks for watching and stay tuned!
That is awesome, hopefully your season is as successful as your trapping!
He's a falconer I met about 20 years ago when I volunteered at Gabbert Raptor Center. If he saw your take on the design I think he would be impressed. In fact I bookmarked it so I could make one.
Glad you like it, I couldn't find any tutorials when I wanted to make my first trap, so I made my own. Hope you land some birds!
didn't really need the inner tube or the taped rocks. can be done with secure anchoring the rim to the grounder all the spokes side down. but great information. Im still considering going for a license. just doing all my research before I start in that direction. thanks for sharing!
falconersapprentice Love your vids, man. I assume your a master falconer and your channel is for aspiring apprentice falconers? Well, I didn't finish my apprenticeship twenty years ago, but now I've decided that I want to follow through on it. It's been on my bucket list since before the phrase, bucket list. I'll be watching your vids more often and I also plan to join the MN Falconer's association, of which I was a member back in the 90s. Keep doing what your doing. Falconry is a great sport and more people need to know about it whether they practice it or not.
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There are countless possible ways to make an effective BC, just takes creativity and a lot of perfecting! I have gone through several ideas, PVC frames and the like, I discovered that the bike rim is a durable frame to mount the cage on (I use gerbils, like to keep them alive) and when it is dropped from a car window, the spokes will flex to absorb some of the excruciating impact! The sandbags add extra weight, (a hawk dragging a trap is risking injury) and keep the trap from going into a -cont-
Awesome two thumbs up!!! So gonna use that design
Great! I don't know Mr. Frank Taylor but the design works great!
Yeah my little weight balls on the sides is a little different from most peoples. Most people don't seem to have problems with the tire-design trap rolling when they drop it from their car window, I did one time and decided it needed the weights. So it is a little different and maybe over-engineered but it has worked for me.
why do you throw it out of a car window?
amazing good job 😀
Thank you:)
Just came up with a solution that worked, the traps built leading up to this where quite the humorous failures :) Thanks!
Grab the heaviest chin yu can find around and lock it on to the bike rim, its alot faster and easier to carry. Design works really well I have adusted it for birds from kestrels to ferruginous hawks. Works really well for trapping along roads as it's easy to throw out of the car
For a redtailed hawk, 20-30 lb test with securely tied knots is sufficient. 25 being my favored because of how well the knots stay upright and in place without being sticky and without coming loose.
Beautiful music you picked. I wasn't paying attention at but then I suddenly realized what I was listening to. LOL. Was hard to concentrate on the video after that. :-)
People have used BC's with owls, but it's not to often that you find owls during the day, and it's pretty hard to find anything at night! Maybe if you knew where it roosted or hunted you could place it, but with the BC you must watch it at all times!
Well done. Going to steel your idea of using a bike wheel for my next BC.
Absolutely, i'll try putting one up by tonight's end. Thanks for watching!
Okay well your request is a little confusing but the way I made the cage out of wire mesh is shown in the video, just roll it into a cylinder and cut circles for the ends, crimp the wire to hold it and zip-ties for extra strength, this is 1/4" hardware cloth (wire mesh). Thanks for watching, hope that helps, if not, please rephrase your request a little clearer so I can help out better! Stay tuned!
Very nice
here in my region , we have a lot of owls , is this a good trap for them , with like some frogs in it or a mouse?
bro frogs? it will defently work with mice tho ive trapped barn owls with bc traps
for sure whatever works! we started with a dho gazza and got robbed by a male haha so ran to a hardware store built the bal chatri and boom first one. now the fun begins! good man with the videos though..good that someone is willin to help unknowns! keep up the great work
I personally don't believe it's about making one easier or faster. The build IMHO should be something you desire are passionate about. Falconry/Hawking is an art and your approach to it and all aspects should be the same. I would never buy a trap or borrow one from another Falconer. I truly enjoyed building my trap and and was amazed at how therapeutic Istanbul was to do so. Well done my friend.
was not Istanbul lol
Nice video I liked
This is nothing compared to some of the traps I have seen others using. Some people get very particular when it comes to getting exactly the bird they want, foot size, talon size, coloration, weight, feather condition, etc. When you have to trap 10 birds before getting the one you want, a well-made well-engineered trap that will hold up and catch consistently is a good investment. My traps have since been modified with built-in cameras and new noose systems.
Thanks dear..
I have always been interested in falconry, and your video's have me possibly wanting to do a lot of research to gain knowledge before trying it myself. Did you ever post a video of the trap in use? Sorry if you answered that already. Also, what is the best database to use for info?
this was a great snare design but you could have saved time by just tying off the bait cage to a stake, tree or limb..I know the snane will work on any bird or other small animal.
thanks.then what is next after the trap has been made.
Well obviously go catch a kestrel lol sum people need common sence
However, whatever works, right? The beautiful thing about falconry is you can do what works, and congrats on the bird, I have never been so fortunate (except for a few kestrels I caught 15 minutes after leaving the house) as to have a 20 minute redtail trapping trip.
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I'm not claiming to be a hawk trapping BC building pro or anything :).. It catches alright! Not enough experience I guess to know the proper knot positioning, but I will figure it out, thanks for watching though!
You don't need a trap if you know how to call them in and gain their trust . I have 3 mated pairs now - summer and winter . I can now feed them all by hand . A trap can injure or kill them .
I have never breeded falcons or eagles or hawks for that matter. However there are obviously a few common sense things to consider. An aviary, a nest area, your male and female bird, and you can choose from natural or artificial insemination, and then choose whether you will incubate the eggs or let the bird nest them, and then whether you will raise them or let the bird raise them. I would look into getting some good books on the topic!
the falconer approaches it. This dragging thing seems harmful as it could easily drag it the wrong way into the road or what not. My trap is quite heavy and immovable. A heavy trap also means your nooses have a weighted base from which to pull. They spring shut faster this way. I am always experimenting, I may try a square trap, remodeled to the way I like it. Thanks for your input and if your trapping this year, good luck!
The tire used in this video is in between a toddler bike and an adult bike, so probably regular, thanks for watching, stay tuned!
please can you give us the list of items used in making the trap
hi. do you think that bal chatri would work on gosshawk?
I believe most eagles are trapped using large-scale bow-nets with a ground blind. Usually with a large animal or animal carcass. However some people have used pigeons, and I know one guy who caught an eagle with a pigeon harness. (Yes, crazy). But I think a large beefed up bal-chatri out in the midwest where eagles perch on power-lines could possibly work, but it would be hard. Make sure you have the proper licensing and permits for an eagle, hard to come by!
I know I sound like a noob but what is the sand looking stuff u put in the tube
Oh and what size tire do you use. Regular adult or toddler size. Thanks!!!!!!
There was no welding in this video, simply a bicycle rim, cut out one side of the spokes, and hardware cloth (wire mesh) purchased at a hardware store. Hope that helps, thanks for watching, and keep commenting! Never an inconvenience for me! :)
You are very very very very welcome thank you so much for watching! Please subscribe and stay tuned! Filming some meets in January!
Holy crap. Can you possibly make it a thousand times more complicated than it needs to be?
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What is this?!
Do you think you could also be able to put a wood board underneath the trap by skrewing it instead of putting those bags on? this way you could just pile dirt on it to weigh it down. It could also make it look like more of the environment. Remember: just an Idea. I might make a video on making a trap like yours so let me know if its a good idea or not :D
i suggest not using monofilament line because it breaks easy. amd a heavier test if youre after big birds.
could you make a vid of makeing nooses
Hi dear .. just wanted to check what should b the thickness of fishing line
i am so building this
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After looking at the finished product, I didn't know if you trap a hawk with it or use it to deliver newspapers...Or both.
I trapped hawks with this thing, but i'm still trying to figure out how I can use it to launch a new state-of-the-art mail delivery business. I am debating whether or not I should redo my design. I could trade out the four sand weights for quad-copter props, then I would simply fly the device right up to the hawk on the pole, while carrying newspapers beneath it on a remote control release device. Delivering mail and capturing passage red-tails at the same time, that's what I am talking about. Thanks for the comment.
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Better Yet sir, loose the bike rim, and replace it with a Metal Peg+nylon rope (assuming the weighted rim was for anchor right?)
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i had watched this i want to see it trap a falcon.
Could you use this as a eagle trap
My dad would have whooped my ass spray painting in the garage like that
I recognize the design of the trap. It was designed by a master falconer named Frank Taylor.
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i made a bal-chatri with a black shelf, half inch hardware net, U nails and 30 pound test. caught a female passage in 20 min... this seems like ALOT of material for what its for.
from the US department of the Interior website: "Migratory Bird Treaty act - 1918: This was one of the earliest laws passed to protect wildlife in the United States.This law was initially an international treaty between the US, Canada and Mexico and has now been amended to incluce Great Britain and Japan. The act prohibits anyone from taking, killing or keeping any native bird, it's parts, or it's nest without a permit or license. ALL raptors native to the US are covered by this law."
www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/CurrentBirdIssues/Falconry/newregulations.final.pdf
Gyr Dame thank you. Seemingly it's legal in certain circumstances to catch birds of prey around there, for falconry.
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This is absolutely ingenuous ( is that how you say it? ^_
If ai make a trap with fan guard do that work
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wouldn't the fishing line cut off circulation to their foot
@Willis Lake: No shit, whatever happened to the 12" x 16" snare trap? It took less than 1 hr to make, paint flat black & place 20 lb snares on it. Tie a 1lb weight to it, Boom, Red Tails all day!
Simplicity is brilliant for sure, and there is more than one way to fish a creek! This trap works as I am sure your 12 by 16 snare trap works. Maybe I should make a new trap video with a more basic concept trap, I learned trap making by observing the falconers in my area. They put their heart and soul into everything, and that includes their traps, which are unbelievably nice. Mine are nothing in comparison, but they do work so I shared a DIY! Thanks for watching!
falconersapprentice Hey this is great and gives us some new ideas. Falconers can always figure out how to modify it to their own liking.
Gyr Dame You're absolutely correct.
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i watch this video 5 times
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Time put into falconry is never wasted. One is always learning. The neat thing about the wheel is it has spokes. The spokes flex to absorb impact which protects your bait a little bit more when dropped from a window. The sand weights also absorb shock, and keep the trap from flipping or sliding. They also keep it corrected in flight. I plan to put astro turf in the trap, along with noose extenders. I have a camera mounted on it now as well. I have seen too many birds dragging the trap along as..
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Hey can we get a tutorial video on how to make a trap instead of just having to follow along. No disrespect I just want to make sure I’m doing everything correctly.
DarkJKid Unlimited are you a falconer if not please don’t do this it’s illegal and you’ll probably end up killing the bird
Hawk trap ever worked,. ?
How much does the average falconry red tail eat a day?
good song im sleep because of her
what is it
Tell me please what is music playing?
@ falconersapprentice: Why re-invent the wheel, so to speek? Don't over think everything in falconry and in life.
Being as you are the first falconer to give me the advise of "Don't over think things" concerning Falconry, I find your comment to be slightly unsettling. Like they say, your bird is what you put into it. The wheel works great because it serves as a natural shock absorber and a great frame to place a BC on, as well a as a more sturdy and reliable substitute to tying a weight to a cage! (I used to do the whole weighted cage thing, and won't ever go back). I will do my best to keep my videos as simple as possible, but nothing I do is written on stone, and viewers can be free to make traps as they wish, I just had to share my idea! Thanks again for the advise, and I hope you stay tuned!
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Why not just use 4 pegs. 1meter X 1meter Fishnet loosely covering your live bait? (ofcoarse bait is at risk of dying)
the tube was already black🤣😂
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By the time you make that trap, all the passes birds already flew back to their nesting area and has babies by now. OSH :-(
you could do that waayyy easier,boy!
and a shorter video
You are 100% correct. Maybe next season I will roll out a new video.
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Probably catch some haws, but I don´t like, the knots are not good positions, and another things
what a bait?
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This is a cool Idea. I always wanted to know how hawk taste like.
Not what it's for
By law killing a bird of prey is punishable up to 10 years in a federal prison.you will be housed with other murderers,a man called bubba and his boyfriend named snake. They would be a really, really good friend to you
Don't see what was discussed. Per you message back to me.
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That's the same music that was playing at the last wake I attended. Couldn't you pick music more suited for living TH-cam viewers? Lol
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Is it legal to use this device where you live? In Europe it is illegal for sure. Wild birds should be left in in the wild. It's irresponsable to put this manual on youtube.
This isn't illegal in Europe. Falconry started in Europe.
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Falconry is also an old tradition in Asia, like Mongolia for example. I regard it as best for any bird to live it's natural life. It's a choosing between this tradition of falconry and leaving birds in their natural environment. I understand that some people make another choice then I do. Such traps are illegal around here in Europe. All birds of prey are protected species here. Even trapping for research and releasing the birds afterwards is strictly regulated here in Belgium.
This trap is not illegal in Europe though... Falconry is actually less regulated in Europe than it is in other countries.