I only took one semester of drawing at the community college. It focused on electrical drawings as part of 2 year electrical degree. The CAD machines were delivered within 2 weeks of the semester end with plans to add CAD to the following semester program. We were allowed to play with CAD for a couple of days. I was a maintenance technician, and I took to rearing children instead of completing the degree. I retired earlier and wealthier than most of my degreed co-workers. The wife never worked and homeschooled our brood of 9. I was shocked that my technician income outperformed my 2 income professional co-workers. I always wanted a full drawing kit with proper drafting table, machine, lighting, stool, etc. I never had the space at home to purchase those relics as our engineering departments phased out manual drawing. I sirt if still want a drafting table and kit, but several decades have passed with little practical need for me to do any real drafting chores. I added a second 4600 SF shop building to my existing shop soace after I retired. I could justify a drafting table space now!
Very cool. CAD was being phased in just as I was learning. So I only got half the training in the old way, and only half of the CAD way... Also always wanted a drafting table at home. Passed on a couple of them over the years as no space to set it up, and not something I'd actually use.
If you're into DIY there's an argument for having drafting equipment to make sketches with. You can freehand draw stuff too. But with some drafting gear you can take it to the next level. I have a drafting table but I don't really use it. I just use a small board mostly.
I work in the mapping department of our electric utility company and up until the late 90’s, the maps were made by hand by my earlier counterparts who mostly have long since retired. But there was an area of the room that had drafting tables and all the same tools in this kit along with a myriad of inks and paints that they used. By the time I got into the department it had been computerized for ten years and very few people left even knew how to use these tools and they were just a curiosity. I am nearly 60 now and I remember taking mechanical drawing in high school and used some of these things. So I have a basic understanding of their uses and can still do certain techniques by hand if I need to or want to. I remember in the 90’s that my father had a hand truck that needed new wheels and I sketched out the old wheels with inner and outer diameters and offsets for the hubs that his would need and he took the sketch to an industrial supply store like Grainger and he showed the guy at the counter what he needed and the guy was apparently impressed with the drawing and my father returned beaming with pride along with the new wheels that I had to then install. To this day I keep a steel erasing shield in each car. They are very useful for things beyond drawing and erasing with. Even as a way of getting into a house when I love my keys inside and need to Jimmy the lock.
I started with Drafting tools like this in 1968 in Junior High School, continued with it in High School and now at 71 it's Solidworks, what a change in technology, it still amazes me when I look at the technical change. I have used Solidworks, Autodesk, and Pro Engineer and now what would have been a great Drafting tool kit is now a museum piece.
These tools were used by people who fed their families and made their life using them. Computers put them out of work. Thanks for sharing. I did see a Vemco blue dot compass in the mix. Collectable and functional.
Great stuff - that kit was top of the line in its time. The 0.5mm lead labeled "for film" probably referred to drawing on Mylar/vellum instead of paper which was more durable but also more expensive. A couple of places I've worked had huge file vault rooms full of D & E size vellums and Mylars dating back many years. I took the last drafting class my HS offered, and by the time I got to college CAD was the thing. I never really liked CAD - during my engineering career I have always been blessed with a good "CAD guy" I can hand off my sketches to. The drafting table and dad's old Gramercy drafting kit still get plenty of use on my personal projects.
Thanks for the tip on the Mylar/vellum paper. That makes sense. Yeah when I took drafting class it was the end of that era, and we switched over to CAD. The manual drafting on paper always seemed more relaxing to me.
A place I worked at had a men's room on the second floor, it had a dozen stalls and 20 urinals. This always seemed weird to me, until an older guy told me the second floor was originally the drafting department (1950s thru the '70s). Those guys had to work nonstop at their tables until a bell went off and they had a 10 minute break.
Drafting supplies are pretty much obsolete today so I've picked up some hauls of the junk. I have enough of it to open a fairly good sized office I figure. I even have a drafting machine. One of those parallelogram with bands deals. It used to belong to the Navy I think? It's a real nice one. Sometimes I still do some drafting for projects. I suck at CAD.
@@ballinator it didn't take anything to justify it for me. I have just run across some fairly sizable lots of drafting gear for cheap. I don't draw too often myself. But when I do I got the stuff for it.
I remember drafting class in high school. Despite being a total dipsh*t of a student, I did enjoy it, although my complete lack of focus probably made my grandpa, a career draftsman, spin in his grave. I probably would have gotten more out of it had I paid more attention. I do still use some of the basic techniques when I have to sketch something out.
The ink for those ruling pens would have to be fairly thicc to stay in between those prongs Also I think those Pentel leads might have been for a mech pencil, they don't look thicc enough for the drafting pencil
Ruling pens must be mirror polished on he tips to be of any use, I've moved on to Rotring pens, they are scary to use due to all the accidents. A whetstone will do wonders on your I think if you want to try them. I have a lot of drafting instruments, since I love mechanical drawing. If you want to ge started, the old Popular Mechanics book is a good way to start!
True…..don’t dunk in evaporust or vinegar. They will break…..lots of info online. It happened to me and I am the one who mentioned it to John. He gave me cudos on his video.
DaVinci kinda was a bit of a hack. Gifted but he had a bit of a work ethic issue. He didn't finish a lot of things. He called Michelangelo that dusty man. Because Michelangelo he worked.
What a find. History, culmination of a thousand years or more of drafting. Sad somehow it was abandoned, someone made a living with those.
Yeah, it's sad when stuff like this just gets thrown out. Glad I was able to save it.
I used a similar kit but made by Steadler in the mid 80’s…. Now we use CATIA !!!!
I only took one semester of drawing at the community college. It focused on electrical drawings as part of 2 year electrical degree. The CAD machines were delivered within 2 weeks of the semester end with plans to add CAD to the following semester program. We were allowed to play with CAD for a couple of days.
I was a maintenance technician, and I took to rearing children instead of completing the degree.
I retired earlier and wealthier than most of my degreed co-workers. The wife never worked and homeschooled our brood of 9. I was shocked that my technician income outperformed my 2 income professional co-workers.
I always wanted a full drawing kit with proper drafting table, machine, lighting, stool, etc. I never had the space at home to purchase those relics as our engineering departments phased out manual drawing.
I sirt if still want a drafting table and kit, but several decades have passed with little practical need for me to do any real drafting chores. I added a second 4600 SF shop building to my existing shop soace after I retired. I could justify a drafting table space now!
Very cool. CAD was being phased in just as I was learning. So I only got half the training in the old way, and only half of the CAD way... Also always wanted a drafting table at home. Passed on a couple of them over the years as no space to set it up, and not something I'd actually use.
If you're into DIY there's an argument for having drafting equipment to make sketches with. You can freehand draw stuff too. But with some drafting gear you can take it to the next level. I have a drafting table but I don't really use it. I just use a small board mostly.
I work in the mapping department of our electric utility company and up until the late 90’s, the maps were made by hand by my earlier counterparts who mostly have long since retired. But there was an area of the room that had drafting tables and all the same tools in this kit along with a myriad of inks and paints that they used. By the time I got into the department it had been computerized for ten years and very few people left even knew how to use these tools and they were just a curiosity. I am nearly 60 now and I remember taking mechanical drawing in high school and used some of these things. So I have a basic understanding of their uses and can still do certain techniques by hand if I need to or want to. I remember in the 90’s that my father had a hand truck that needed new wheels and I sketched out the old wheels with inner and outer diameters and offsets for the hubs that his would need and he took the sketch to an industrial supply store like Grainger and he showed the guy at the counter what he needed and the guy was apparently impressed with the drawing and my father returned beaming with pride along with the new wheels that I had to then install. To this day I keep a steel erasing shield in each car. They are very useful for things beyond drawing and erasing with. Even as a way of getting into a house when I love my keys inside and need to Jimmy the lock.
Very cool. I took a couple years of the classes and then everything switched to CAD.
I started with Drafting tools like this in 1968 in Junior High School, continued with it in High School and now at 71 it's Solidworks, what a change in technology, it still amazes me when I look at the technical change. I have used Solidworks, Autodesk, and Pro Engineer and now what would have been a great Drafting tool kit is now a museum piece.
These tools were used by people who fed their families and made their life using them. Computers put them out of work. Thanks for sharing.
I did see a Vemco blue dot compass in the mix. Collectable and functional.
Thanks. I'll be sure to hold on to the Vemco one.
Great stuff - that kit was top of the line in its time. The 0.5mm lead labeled "for film" probably referred to drawing on Mylar/vellum instead of paper which was more durable but also more expensive. A couple of places I've worked had huge file vault rooms full of D & E size vellums and Mylars dating back many years.
I took the last drafting class my HS offered, and by the time I got to college CAD was the thing. I never really liked CAD - during my engineering career I have always been blessed with a good "CAD guy" I can hand off my sketches to. The drafting table and dad's old Gramercy drafting kit still get plenty of use on my personal projects.
Thanks for the tip on the Mylar/vellum paper. That makes sense. Yeah when I took drafting class it was the end of that era, and we switched over to CAD. The manual drafting on paper always seemed more relaxing to me.
Good job more tool videos please 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks! More vids are on the way.
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A place I worked at had a men's room on the second floor, it had a dozen stalls and 20 urinals. This always seemed weird to me, until an older guy told me the second floor was originally the drafting department (1950s thru the '70s). Those guys had to work nonstop at their tables until a bell went off and they had a 10 minute break.
Very cool. Always wanted to work in a place like that for some reason..
Drafting supplies are pretty much obsolete today so I've picked up some hauls of the junk. I have enough of it to open a fairly good sized office I figure. I even have a drafting machine. One of those parallelogram with bands deals. It used to belong to the Navy I think? It's a real nice one. Sometimes I still do some drafting for projects. I suck at CAD.
Very cool. I'll draw something every once in a while, but not often enough to justify having a full setup.
@@ballinator it didn't take anything to justify it for me. I have just run across some fairly sizable lots of drafting gear for cheap. I don't draw too often myself. But when I do I got the stuff for it.
I remember drafting class in high school. Despite being a total dipsh*t of a student, I did enjoy it, although my complete lack of focus probably made my grandpa, a career draftsman, spin in his grave. I probably would have gotten more out of it had I paid more attention. I do still use some of the basic techniques when I have to sketch something out.
I took the classes too. Then everything switched to CAD, so I never really got to use those skills in the wild.
The ink for those ruling pens would have to be fairly thicc to stay in between those prongs
Also I think those Pentel leads might have been for a mech pencil, they don't look thicc enough for the drafting pencil
I think it was Scoutcrafter that had the round top spring break on him after soaking one of those it Evaporust.
Ohh, good thing I didn't dunk it yet. I'll have to see if I can disassemble it without damaging the threads.
Good catch! I saw the same reports. Best keep rust removers away from spring steel.
Ruling pens must be mirror polished on he tips to be of any use, I've moved on to Rotring pens, they are scary to use due to all the accidents. A whetstone will do wonders on your I think if you want to try them. I have a lot of drafting instruments, since I love mechanical drawing. If you want to ge started, the old Popular Mechanics book is a good way to start!
Thanks! I'll look for that book.
True…..don’t dunk in evaporust or vinegar. They will break…..lots of info online. It happened to me and I am the one who mentioned it to John. He gave me cudos on his video.
Thanks for the warning! I'll try to carefully disassemble it to clean it up.
Your artistic ability makes Leonardo look like a hack
LOL!
DaVinci kinda was a bit of a hack. Gifted but he had a bit of a work ethic issue. He didn't finish a lot of things. He called Michelangelo that dusty man. Because Michelangelo he worked.
@1pcfred finishing is for suckers and battery nightstand devices