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Malco and the Sad Story of the Eagle Grip - Company History & Lore
In this video we cover the full story of Malco Tools, a small independent tool company that made a failed attempt to bring back manufacture of the iconic "Vise Grip" design pliers, here to the United States.
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!!!! Looks like Epstein's has the Eagle Grips for $30 (plus shipping) !!!!
www.harryepstein.com/products/10-curved-jaw-eagle-grip-malco-locking-pliers-lp10wc
All the Eagle Grips (that are still available on Amazon):
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EagleGrip Factory Drive-Thru Videos:
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!!! Eagle Grip Dentist Office Commercial !!!
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Gone Fishing:
vimeo.com/470850514
How It's Made
vimeo.com/468341388
Further Reading:
www.malcotools.com/blog/celebrating_70_years_of_malco_evolution_innovation/
1972 Catalog:
archive.org/details/malco-catalog-723-d-1972
1988 Catalog:
archive.org/details/malco-catalog-889-1988
Eagle Grip Catalog:
archive.org/details/malco-eagle-grip-2022/Malco%20Eagle%20Grip%20SL18068C%20Pliers/
Power Ring Patent:
patents.google.com/patent/USD901999S1
Patent Transfer to Snap-On Document:
legacy-assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/assignment-pat-66428-599.pdf
Eagle Grip "Dentist" Commercial Casting Call:
www.backstage.com/casting/dentist-office-390108/
Eagle Grip Plant Opening:
www.techshopmag.com/malco-products-sbc-begins-production-of-new-locking-pliers-at-former-vise-grip-factory/
EagleGrip Closure Announcements:
web.archive.org/web/20221203002156/www.eaglegripusa.com/faqs/
journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/nebraska/company-that-bought-former-vise-grip-plant-in-dewitt-plans-to-close-it/article_822e236d-5f7c-5bc3-b866-3f797d83bed7.html
theindependent.com/company-that-bought-former-vise-grip-plant-in-dewitt-plans-to-close-it/article_edefbc1e-5aee-11ed-bde7-1f36286768cb.html
EagleGrip Factory Auction May 23, 2023:
www.hollandindustrialgroup.com/malco
www.bidspotter.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/prehol/catalogue-id-presti1-10002
Old EagleGrip Website:
web.archive.org/web/20220809085054/www.eaglegripusa.com/
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:30 Malco History
01:57 Birth of Eagle Grip
02:42 Rings of Power
03:31 They did Marketing?
03:59 Death of Eagle Grip
04:48 Why They Failed
06:17 Resurrection?
07:39 My Thoughts
08:28 Outro
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  • @DetroitDiesel671
    @DetroitDiesel671 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I don't recall ever seeing one of these L-handles in 3/8 or 1/2 ... only 1/4, which I have because it came with a Husky screwdriver set for some reason. Those bigger ones kind of interest me, but I'm trying to think if I'd ever use it. Some persuasive comments here though, I'm at 50% right now.

  • @gm-pe5jl
    @gm-pe5jl 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Price definitely wasn't the issue. If it was, there wouldn't be any tool truck brands. These were clearly superior products (I have several of them, and they are the best locking pliers I've ever owned), and worth the price for people who need premium tools. Malco simply didn't market them. Nobody knew about them. I didn't even hear about them, until they were discontinued. They really screwed up. It wouldn't have cost much of anything to create a viral "buzz" about them on social media. All they needed to do was send a few pairs to the Project Farm guy, and they would have sold plenty!

  • @mysss29
    @mysss29 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    That's incredibly cool and incredibly terrible! 😂

  • @TBJK07Jeep
    @TBJK07Jeep 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    They failed at marketing them..I have many friends that would have bought them. You can still get them through Harry Epstein. We bought close to 500$ worth from them.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Epstein's seems like the cheapest place to get them. I added a link to the video description.

  • @donaldjarvis9478
    @donaldjarvis9478 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    One hell of a spark tester!

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah. I'm not gonna be the one to test that though.

  • @FLStelth
    @FLStelth 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I just bought a pair of these, thanks to you.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome! I'm sure you'll like them.

  • @ericschulze5641
    @ericschulze5641 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Jerry Springer owned Malco ?

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Along with Mark Wahlburg and Al Bundy...

  • @ronaldrhatigan7652
    @ronaldrhatigan7652 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Increment borers for extracting sample cores from trees and wood are usually 9 mm square drive. A square drive 3/8" gives a loose, but usable fit for coring with a power drill or driver. I have taken thousands of cores this way.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Interesting. Thanks for the info!

  • @googleusergp
    @googleusergp วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Springdale, AR plant also produced tools for Sears Craftsman, most notably with the "VV" maker's mark on the tool.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the info!

  • @jhonsiders6077
    @jhonsiders6077 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well when TRW got ahold of any company they pretty much ruin it ! I have had TRW auto parts fail before One of the worst a timing gear on a crank shaft split broke the chain and ruined a small block Ford .

  • @Donthetoolman
    @Donthetoolman วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree Malco should have invested more money in advertising you can't make any kind of profit if you're lurking in the shadows I know some people complained about the price when they were 45 to 50 dollars a pair which really baffles me when Snap-on makes the exact same product for twice the amount and people are okay with that to each their own I guess and also I think of Malco would have invested in Machining other tools especially for the automotive industry and like mentioned earlier actually advertise they would probably still be here today just look how SK has cut back on USA made tools especially Automotive and how they now are owned by great star of China Outsourcing has really hurt a lot of companies it makes it hard for USA companies to stay in business not the case for Malco for which they didn't advertise enough really enjoying your videos thanks for sharing

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome. Thanks for watching! Yeah if they had done more advertising for the pliers it wouldn't have hurt. The pricing wasn't too bad considering what they were.

  • @TrebleChild
    @TrebleChild วันที่ผ่านมา

    I never saw any advertising for these either and the only place I saw them for sale was on the snap-on truck

  • @btrswt35
    @btrswt35 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I never know about them until I heard they were going out of production. They should have marketed them MUCH better. Maybe approach some of the big box stores and see about getting some first hand exposure with on the shelf product placement. Not sure if that would help, but it could have

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, just getting a little exposure to the general public would've helped.

    • @WoodworkingforAnyone
      @WoodworkingforAnyone 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@btrswt35 I'm willing to bet someone there thought of that.

  • @mikeelliott9067
    @mikeelliott9067 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. I purchased a Rivco rivet gun around 1973 or so. I used it for 1/8" aluminum rivets when installing alum. gutters and downspouts. It was used hundreds if not a few thousand times. Nothing could replace this gun to this day. Rivco sold out to Malco I assume because they are identical. I have a couple of other Malco tools, they last!

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks!

  • @justindelecki
    @justindelecki วันที่ผ่านมา

    Enjoyed the video. Thanks.😊

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome! Thanks for watching.

  • @PrimeToolbox
    @PrimeToolbox วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unfortunately Snap-On, despite charging 2x or 3x more than Malco, the quality of the models recently launched by Snap-On seems worse. They don't include the solid rivet that reinforces the upper jaw, they press it into the plate like the generic manufacturers do. Nor did I see any mention of AISI 9260 steel.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Interesting. I was not aware Snap-On had made design changes.

  • @joshg6874
    @joshg6874 วันที่ผ่านมา

    honestly what i do on ours is just put 5/8ths plyboard, putting 1/12s has gotten to be too expensive. i also put siding on ours, i have to redo another older one from like mid 1900s. i think my grandfather bought them, you have to do a bit of welding work cus they like to break after 70-80 years.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, considering switching to plywood when the boards rot out. Good to know I got another 75 years before I have to learn welding.

  • @NakedBonghit
    @NakedBonghit วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kawww!

  • @ElThomsono
    @ElThomsono วันที่ผ่านมา

    I first saw these on Project Farm, where they dominated in testing. Fancied a pair but perhaps not at the £40 they're charging in the UK. But I'd hate for the supply to dry up and me not have a pair, perhaps for Christmas! 😅 (I enjoyed the eagle sound)

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! Yeah the Project Farm video is what got me to order mine.

  • @patricksquires77
    @patricksquires77 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Own those, & those, & those, & box of those Malco screws… and I don’t even work in hvac/sheet metal… do I have a problem?

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nope. Nothing wrong with having the right tools for the job, even if you don't do that job...

  • @automat3000
    @automat3000 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you do all these tests effectively with a multimeter with min max memory, as long as you can interpret the results?

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Absolutely.

  • @TheDisgruntledMechanic
    @TheDisgruntledMechanic วันที่ผ่านมา

    I followed the story of these pliers from almost the start of the announcement of Malco making these "Vise-Grips" pliers. Even won a free promotional t-shirt! The only real advertisement I know about is Malco asking TH-camrs to do a promotional video for them. The product was free if you an agreement with Malco was signed. ( I passed because of all the limitations Malco wanted when making the video.) I did however buy a Snap branded Malco set. They are great pliers and I do wish they would've been successful. thanks for the video.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome. Thanks for watching! Interesting about the promotional videos. I don't think I saw any until after they launched.

  • @warped-sliderule
    @warped-sliderule 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The "corny" presentation style is also catchy...

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks!

  • @Jasonitodd
    @Jasonitodd 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m not sure what Was worse, that damn eagle sound or the narrators nasally voice

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      A small price to pay for the lore.

  • @kaseylowpianotuner1239
    @kaseylowpianotuner1239 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    could be for a spark plug

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      From other commentors it sounds like it's for a motorcycle tool kit. There would have been another wrench in the kit that fit on the big end to get leverage to remove the plug.

  • @mparchive8808
    @mparchive8808 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember when they announced them, I really wanted them to succeed. However, I already owned a half dozen locking pliers from the original Petersen plant, and didn’t need any more. Probably true of a lot of other people. Most people with enough interest in the history or quality already had what whey need, and the typical buyer will just buy the cheapest at a big box store. Unfortunate story.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah I only ever bought one of them. Have too many other pliers from other brands.

  • @bearbait2221
    @bearbait2221 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The eagle sounds just inspired me to go buy Malco pliers:) I never knew a us company was making pliers:( thanks for sharing

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome! Thanks for watching.

  • @john_barnett
    @john_barnett 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like to think he made the caw sound himself every time instead of copying it

  • @J-1410
    @J-1410 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This has nothing to do with cost. It has all to do with the fact that they did 0 marketing and that no one knew about them making it until they closed. You can't blame the price when no one knows the product exists. They didn't appear in any magazine, paper, internet article, or youtube video until after they closed, the only place they appeared or were known about were on a few obscure forums and local news for DeWitt, Nebraska. Many comments, on the articles/videos that appeared after they closed had the impression that you couldn't get them anymore because they had closed.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, they likely could have made the price point work if they had actually advertised it.

    • @WoodworkingforAnyone
      @WoodworkingforAnyone 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@J-1410 also, why do I need original style vice grips? This dude bought a factory and came up with the plan later

  • @kennethwelsh2372
    @kennethwelsh2372 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Everyone has multiple old pairs and they shall keep getting passed down no need for new ones

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      True. I could only bring myself to buy one of the Eagle Grips, since I have so many other locking pliers lying around.

  • @jonathanstone2564
    @jonathanstone2564 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Super video. I bought one pair before the closing of the plant. Once I heard they were available for a steep discount on Amazon I picked up a few more. I had no idea about the rivet or the power ring until you pointed them out. The finish was amazing, maybe too good considering what the tool is intended for. For some reason, unlike the original USA made vice grips, the Malco version has a hex opening in the adjustment screw, and the screw has a different finish. The only other tool I have with this kind of finish is Nepros. Very expensive Japanese tools. It too bad Malco stopped so soon, and like someone else mentioned, that the other Snap-On sizes weren’t available. Keep up the great work.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! Yeah the finish on them was maybe 'too nice' I don't think I've ever used the hex in the adjustment screw. There's a bunch of other brands that have that now too, or a hole in the screw so you can put a screwdriver through.

  • @googleusergp
    @googleusergp 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For a time, there was a Craftsman version that was actually made by Petersen DeWitt. I have a couple pairs of them and they are exact copies of the Vise Grip. Sears also sourced locking pliers from Parker Manufacturing of Worcester Massachusetts and from the Adjustable Clamp Company in Chicago, Illinois. As others stated, that eagle sound is extremely annoying.

    • @justinorwen1739
      @justinorwen1739 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I worked at the DeWitt plant the Craftsman and Malco were the same Visegrip only with a different stamp.

    • @googleusergp
      @googleusergp 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@justinorwen1739 Yes. I have a pair of Craftsman locking pliers with the package and the patent comes back to DeWitt. However, depending on the year and style of the pliers, others had an "I" circle maker's mark and those were made by Parker of Worcester, MA. Also the "laminated" style locking pliers were made by the Adjustable Clamp Company of Chicago, IL. I have all three styles from all three makers.

  • @icemonk12
    @icemonk12 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They should've started with long needle nose those are more versatile. I rarely use any other vise grip but would like some USA made vise grips

  • @quicksilverguy21
    @quicksilverguy21 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got a pair of these when they came out. Every aspect of them is incredible.

  • @ChimeraActual
    @ChimeraActual 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have 9 or 10 original Vise Grip pliers, I may have bought half of them new, the rest from yard sales or the like. No matter how bad they looked, it was easy to recondition them to functionally new. Project Farm reviewed vise grip type pliers twice, the second time they included the original Peterson Vise Grips, and they topped them all. As I recall, here was a mention of Eagle Grip, but they couldn't be found for testing. My point: the best deal for these pliers is to find original Vise Grips for a few bucks and recondition them. They're so simple anyone can do it. I don't always go for American Pragmatic design, but these are exceptional.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, I have a ton of used Vise Grips picked up from garage sales & flea markets. Hard to justify spending even $30 on new ones when the old ones are still plentiful.

  • @jeffa847
    @jeffa847 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just heard about them a day ago and I pay more attention than the average bear. So it seems like the marketing wasn't so great. Interestingly I looked up in my financial records from the 90s to see what I paid for my US made Vise Grips and the inflation adjusted price I think was around $35 or so but that's if you believe the federal government's inflation figures. Someone said in the comments they were buying them for $5 in the early 90s but I paid way more in the mid 90s - can't remember what I paid but I think it was $`18 or $19. The old US made ones are better, but just barely. I can see someone who is out on jobsites with rain and thieves around having a hard time justifying paying that much more but it is a non-issue to me. I still have my 1990s ones and they are in great shape - LOL in part because once they were no longer made in the US I started using my newer foreign made ones and 'saving' my precious irreplaceable US made ones only when I really needed to use them- haha.

  • @jeffmoss26
    @jeffmoss26 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I absolutely love my eagle grips!

  • @rockoyouthman
    @rockoyouthman 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I own a set and I LOVE THEM

  • @filobeto1691
    @filobeto1691 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for making this vid. I own two pair of Eagles. Probably have 50 pairs of Vise Grips. All different styles and sizes. Probably 75% are Peterson’s with the balance Irwin’s. Own some Malco sheet metal tools as well. I do think they were too expensive. Maybe should have offered a plain finish and the high polish nickel as an option. As far as marketing I would have had the Malco president stand in front of the factory in DeWitt and explain Malco wanted to continue to make the worlds best locking pliers in America, for Americans once again. All buying decisions are based on emotion. Malco should have pitched to that. I still applaud Malco’s effort and glad I have the two pair of Eagles.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome! Yeah the high polish finish must have added quite a bit to the price tag.

  • @pl5624
    @pl5624 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They would have never went big box with those due to the discounting required for the box to make a profit.seems to me they wanted to control the profit level directly because they knew there wasnt much to be made off them.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True. They would have had to come down in price quite a bit for that to happen.

  • @gregharbison6220
    @gregharbison6220 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😮how does Jerry Springer fit in just asking?

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Couldn't think of a celebrity "Gerry" to act as an avatar, so went with that "Jerry" instead.

  • @scottmacleod6301
    @scottmacleod6301 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I live about 100 miles from Annandale and I never heard of malco.

  • @merikatools568
    @merikatools568 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Eagles only sound like that if ya fast enough to get a "pinkie" in their egg hole

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      LOL.

  • @elcheapo5302
    @elcheapo5302 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Malco manufactured the best locking pliers ever made. And they did it in America. My hat is off to them for trying. The sad truth is, even with a deal with a big box store, the end was inevitable. 99% of the population is only concerned with one thing--price. A $50 pair of locking pliers hanging on a peg next to a $9 pair doesn't stand a chance in a box store. The deal with Snap On made sense--they have the customer base for such a product. I own about two dozen Eagle Grips, and they're almost too nice to use.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah the polished finish is so nice on them. I find myself not wanting to use the one I have for the same reason. Tempted to throw it down the driveway a few times to scratch it up, so I don't worry about it...

  • @bruceg1845
    @bruceg1845 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    that eagle sound is sooo annoying...

  • @geemee3364
    @geemee3364 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Snap-On’s a good fit. Really expensive tools going to a crazy expensive tool company.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People want USA made... "Want" is the key word here. However, people don't want to pay what a USA tool actually costs. It's a failing venture for any company to make something like this in America anymore. It cost too much for labor, tooling and too retool if something newer or better comes out. Snap-On can do it only because they have a unique locked-in customer base that will pay 10x the manufacturing cost. A typical retail customer is only going to pay 2-4x.

    • @doofwop
      @doofwop 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sounds like a problem that can be solved, if there were the will to solve it. German tools are expensive too but the Germans are buying them just fine. FACOM tools are terribly expensive but Europeans, who do NOT have any more money than we do, prefer the brands made in their backyard and follow up by buying these brands. People in USA have been dumbed down to believe everything must be cheap. This is the problem. I can remember when Made In USA meant the best in the world. Our leadership has ruined that for us over the years.

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Snap-On also has multiple existing factories they could roll the pliers into. No need to have a whole dedicated factory just for one type of tool.

    • @eriklarsson3188
      @eriklarsson3188 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@doofwop Another key difference is also that everyone around this planet A: want and B: lust over German made products, including tools. This helps the Germans out with keeping production within the Fatherland (Germans i.e. Swiss, Austrians and Germany proper) but they too are hurting today, all European tool makers are hurting, as are the US ones. Not their fault, it is the fault of government really, they make it near impossible to run a profitable business no matter what line of profession you are in. I mean it has to stop before all competence (hundreds of years worth of it over here) and tradition is lost and outsourced to Asia. Added. Selden, a Swedish manufacturer of sailing boat equipment, standing rigging, masts etc used to be THE best manufacturer on this planet, oh well, turns out they no longer use Swedish steel but Chinese sources steel! Yeah, quality is no longer what it used to be. You can still find quality tools, but you often times have to be a detective to figure out where it is made and what steel was used.

    • @StrangeQuark
      @StrangeQuark 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      need tariffs

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@StrangeQuark Tariffs just hurt the consumer. It boils down to a first world country problem. Americans can't afford other Americans to work for them anymore. We all want everything and we feel that we should all be equally paid. The only way to create a society where you can have a fellow American work for you and have all the luxuries is to create larger class/wage gaps. You could ban everything made in foreign countries right now and pretty much everything you buy would tenfold in price. Just peruse the Snap-on catalog /Pricebook and see what you're in store for for a USA made society. I have bought countless USA made items that I could have bought for pennies on the dollar and in the end it helps nothing.

  • @Traderjoe
    @Traderjoe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just realized that I had a brand new in box set of these in my apartment inside a cabinet and I packed d a disposal company to empty my apartment and toss everything that was in it and these, along with probably 10 grand worth and f tools and equipment have been relocated to a dump somewhere. Never to be seen again. Oh well. I needed a piece, because I was becoming a hoarder

    • @ballinator
      @ballinator 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ouch, that had to hurt.

  • @AndyM.
    @AndyM. 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

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