If selling garnacho means we get a leftback and that guy from salzburg that fits amorim’s system I can see why, but I think we should keep him to at least the summer to see if he can adjust to amorims system, because there ain’t many 20year old players like him who are premier league proven
Mark has been talking nonstop about how we can't sell young players because of our history. "We are united, we cant do that". Haven't we been talking about we aren't what we used to be? Isn't that the whole project? A complete rebuild? Why would you be against selling our players if it is for the benefit of the club moving forward? We need to focus on what we are NOW and what we need NOW. Every example he is talking about is how other teams wouldn't sell their BEST players. Foden, saka, etc. If we had a player of that quality, we wouldn't sell them, simple as that. "We are everton now, we are a selling club" Exactly! Look at the table! We are not what we used to be and transfers need to reflect it as well.
Mark as you’ve said quite a few times now, with that 60 million you could buy 4 players for that at 15 million a year or each player spread out over a few years, Maybe Amorim and Garnacho don’t get on? I think 60 million and a sell on % would be a good deal,
Honestly I’m not arsed about Garnacho. No less than 80 million though. Other clubs are willing to pull our pants down we should do the same. Mainoo on the other hand. Selling him would be criminal. It would cost us to replace him with probably an inferior player.
@@creepingbrain but Garnacho is a young player with proven ability in the premier league, Antony wasn’t… that was on the club but it doesn’t mean we should accept a cheap deal either! He shouldn’t even be going imo
The enigma of Garnacho. Scoring wonder goals every now and then is never enough. There are areas of his game that are average and his improvement is stuttering to be fair. In his favour is his age and the hope that he can make that next step. We have suffered too many nearly players in a nearly team. We cannot afford any more to buy world class players at the peak of their potential, but young talent coming through has to show more than him at this point in his career. Amad, typical example. His quality was evident two years ago but Ten Hag wasted valuable time on Rashford/Garnacho combo. Garnacho cannot shoulder all the blame for attacking inadequacy, but his sale is sustainable for the progression of the team
I'd understand the outrage for Mainoo, but Garnacho? We've all known he's going to Real, the only way he doesn't is if he doesn't reach the potential we think he has. Why would I be upset if we cash in earlier and let Napoli train him for Madrid? Especially if we get a percentage of future sales. I agree that we shouldn't be a selling club, but everyone knew we would sell this player eventually.
Not the ones that are United standard and the others went to a good club after a good youth career. We’ve always been good at it, N Ireland alone, we had I think 6 was the most, players who were at United at the time or had come through the youth. Cathcart, Evans x 2, McNair, Norwood, even Healey who at club level couldn’t cut it but outrageous at international level, came through our ranks.
respectfully you don't go from one of the best run clubs in the country to one of the worst, especially when they value garnacho etc as more than mbuemo. if they value them all as 70m than mbuemo is 120m
I don’t get what people see in Garnacho. He’s another Marcus Rashford. We will end up paying him 300k a week the only good season he has and we will get constant mediocrity in return.
Everyone has called for change, wholesale changes in fact, it is now potentially happening and everyone is up in arms, there will be pain to start with, trust the process and reep the rewards in the long run, think back to Beckham nobody liked that transfer but it didnt hurt the team and it let everyone know that nobody is invincible. The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
People want "ruthless" when it comes to players they don't like, but when it comes to a player they do like they throw their toys out of the pram. People need to trust Amorim & Ineos to do what's best for the team.
If United has to sell to buy and the only players that people want are Garnacho and Mainoo then United has no other choice. Nobody wants Rashford, Antony or Casemiro who everyone expected to leave.
Garnacho can't Finish,Pass,dribble. his technical ability is bang avarage.his In game IQ is dreadful.We cry that we dont get rid of avarage players when we do we start crying???
Exactly. He's just not that good. And people are demanding a world record fee for him?! Deary me. If we can get £50m with add-ons and a sell-on clause, happy days.
If Amorim wants Garnacho he will stay if he is not in his plans he should be sold. We can't just hold onto Garnacho because we have culture. He will only depreciate because he can never be a 10 Amad is different. If he stays,The fans, Garnacho and Amorim will suffer.
if radcliffe and the glazers sell garnacho i hope cassimero erickson shaw Anthony and all the other players that are surplus to requirements sit out there contracts to squeeze every penny out of them greedy owners
We can be broke because of the Glazers. We are. We have also paid £20m to ETH and £10m for Ashworth under Ineos. So if we sell our best talents to buy, Ineos take the full force of the blame for me.
After today's games we are 15th in the prem. Palace are above us, wham are above us. The only team below us are Lester, ipswich, wolves, Hampton and everton. Lose tomorrow and we are in a relegation battle.
We're bringing in young players on cheap wages so wtf you on about? We will continue bringing in young, cheap players. Gone are the days of marquee signings left and right
Are we still backing ineos if we do the garnacho deal ? I’ve never liked them coming in but gave them the benefit of the doubt , that started wavering when they laid staff off , if they get rid of garnacho I’m ineos out, unless it’s what Amorim wants ?
So sell the players who have the potential to raise us later on? I'd take a year of 10th (obv, not going to accept that), if we get 4th next year due to player development. We are a point behind Tottenham, who are "top 4 contenders"... They lose and we win tmr, we go above them...
Do you actually think Amorin would come to utd if they were selling the best players, Garnacho not even a regular starter,only people who know what's going on is Amorin and Berada, just stirring up shite
What if Garnacho is one of the players who doesn't apply himself in training, like Rashford? Amorim left him on the bench against City at the same time as Rashford so he may have seen the same problems in both. Perhaps he Is aplying a bit more, but not enough for the new coach's standards.
(as a 19yr old), it's not sentimental FC, it's common sense... If we sold Giggsy and Scholes when they were 19, they would NEVER be MU legends to the level they are rn (from the Class of 92). Youngsters are valued more than 30+ yrs old, because they have TIME to DEVELOP the necessary skills of their specific trade of the position they play...
We need a clear out ... but of deadwood like Shaw and Erikesen , Mount and Casemiro and Rashford not players with high potential like Garnacho and Mainoo.
If selling garnacho means we get a leftback and that guy from salzburg that fits amorim’s system I can see why, but I think we should keep him to at least the summer to see if he can adjust to amorims system, because there ain’t many 20year old players like him who are premier league proven
and who do we play on the wing?
I am never going to support INEOS if they sell Garnacho or Mainoo.. Shocking and shameful... Selling future talents after already ruining the club
I honestly think selling mainoo will cause huge protests until the whole club is sold
I doubt Ineos will be bothered if you support them or not
Honestly i hope they sell garnacho
INEOS didnt rui the club..
They trying to fix the mess of overspending for years before the came..
I could take or leave Garnacho but Mainoo would genuinely be criminal
I have a horrible feeling that Garnacho and Mainoo will go and we can't sell Rashford so he ends up staying, total nightmare situation.
If that happens then this just shows how much of a joke ineos are
FFS… let’s hope not!!! That would be too much!!!
Rashford staying makes me sick
Us selling garnacho and mainoo would haunt us for years and years fr
idk what's more baffling..
Mark complaining about selling Garnacho now
Or him thinking Real Madrid are coming with 100M for him later...
Ask for Osihmen
Mark has been talking nonstop about how we can't sell young players because of our history. "We are united, we cant do that". Haven't we been talking about we aren't what we used to be? Isn't that the whole project? A complete rebuild? Why would you be against selling our players if it is for the benefit of the club moving forward? We need to focus on what we are NOW and what we need NOW. Every example he is talking about is how other teams wouldn't sell their BEST players. Foden, saka, etc. If we had a player of that quality, we wouldn't sell them, simple as that. "We are everton now, we are a selling club" Exactly! Look at the table! We are not what we used to be and transfers need to reflect it as well.
You're right, let's sell Garnacho, Mainoo, Collyer and let's keep/extend the contracts of Shaw, Mount, Eriksen and Lindelof.
INEOS are worrying me, if Garnacho is sold it’ll be shameful.
Does anyone actually think Garnacho fits Amorim's system?
this is what the people crying are ignoring..
At the moment no nbut that could be developed.
I think he should adapt to be a wingback or leave
Not really tbh which is a shame
He doesn’t
Mark as you’ve said quite a few times now, with that 60 million you could buy 4 players for that at 15 million a year or each player spread out over a few years,
Maybe Amorim and Garnacho don’t get on? I think 60 million and a sell on % would be a good deal,
They don't need to get on . Sir Alex and Roy Keane didn't always see eye to eye.
@TheSt1092 yes they did ffs
@@Chaduar
No they didn't, and it's well documented...
Take £50 mill for Garnacho and we get 50% of any sell on value, same for Rashford.
Honestly I’m not arsed about Garnacho. No less than 80 million though. Other clubs are willing to pull our pants down we should do the same.
Mainoo on the other hand. Selling him would be criminal. It would cost us to replace him with probably an inferior player.
support the manager,,if the manager agrees to sell them ...let them be sold
That’s funny that garnacho will end up going for less than Antony! Let that sink in!!! 🤯
Just because we paid more than double what Antony was worth doesn't mean we can expect other clubs to do the same with Garnacho
@@creepingbrain but Garnacho is a young player with proven ability in the premier league, Antony wasn’t… that was on the club but it doesn’t mean we should accept a cheap deal either! He shouldn’t even be going imo
@@creepingbrain
It's actually Quadruple; ETH said 21M, we paid 80M
For 60mil your going to get a glazer dividend
The enigma of Garnacho. Scoring wonder goals every now and then is never enough. There are areas of his game that are average and his improvement is stuttering to be fair. In his favour is his age and the hope that he can make that next step. We have suffered too many nearly players in a nearly team. We cannot afford any more to buy world class players at the peak of their potential, but young talent coming through has to show more than him at this point in his career. Amad, typical example. His quality was evident two years ago but Ten Hag wasted valuable time on Rashford/Garnacho combo. Garnacho cannot shoulder all the blame for attacking inadequacy, but his sale is sustainable for the progression of the team
I'd understand the outrage for Mainoo, but Garnacho? We've all known he's going to Real, the only way he doesn't is if he doesn't reach the potential we think he has. Why would I be upset if we cash in earlier and let Napoli train him for Madrid? Especially if we get a percentage of future sales. I agree that we shouldn't be a selling club, but everyone knew we would sell this player eventually.
Its so funny this morning I thought about why clubs don't bid for Mbuemo
Brentford wont sell him this window. Not even a small chance
😢❤PLZ DONT SELL GARNA ....INEOS OUT ...GLAZERS OUT 😢
We’ve sold nearly all our youth team graduates since Busby retired
Not the ones that are United standard and the others went to a good club after a good youth career.
We’ve always been good at it, N Ireland alone, we had I think 6 was the most, players who were at United at the time or had come through the youth.
Cathcart, Evans x 2, McNair, Norwood, even Healey who at club level couldn’t cut it but outrageous at international level, came through our ranks.
The hypocrisy is almost impressive 😂
Every day since ratcliffe helped the glazers stay we get bad news , both as bad as each other. Killing the club bit by bit.
Mbeumo would be class at United
Nah
2x Nah
X3 Nah
Reality is Utd are not the club they once were, the landscape is changing!! You can say “we’re Man U” but time to wake up and stop living in the past
This NONSENSE of selling Guarnacho or Mainoo HAS TO STOP.😢
Don't see where garnacho fits anyway tbf
If garnachos going then the manager wants him gone so he must have someone lined up
respectfully you don't go from one of the best run clubs in the country to one of the worst, especially when they value garnacho etc as more than mbuemo. if they value them all as 70m than mbuemo is 120m
Osimhen for Garnacho, that’s the deal. Take it or leave it
I think Garnacho is one of our best players so it would be madness as far as I’m concerned unless he wants to leave that is.
The way other clubs are making deals it’s like Oprah was giving them out but skipped us
But why will Manchester United even think or talked about selling someone like Garnacho? This is complete nonsense
All well and good but if Garnacho’s head has been turned and he wants to go, we should sell at the right price (no matter what it says about INEOS)
I don’t get what people see in Garnacho. He’s another Marcus Rashford. We will end up paying him 300k a week the only good season he has and we will get constant mediocrity in return.
Absolute mince.
He’s been the standout player last couple seasons.
Spot on Jake. Get rid and find the next star.
That’s not how Amorim works.. just look at Quenda on Sporting Lisbon.. this is on the club, not Amorim..
I cant believe that the live chat is saying that Garna need to get sold???
It’s not just Utd that needs a bigger pot.
The players can change, even Rasmus is not the real deal we will have to wait and see
Not worried, losing the patience and care with the owners...
Everyone has called for change, wholesale changes in fact, it is now potentially happening and everyone is up in arms, there will be pain to start with, trust the process and reep the rewards in the long run, think back to Beckham nobody liked that transfer but it didnt hurt the team and it let everyone know that nobody is invincible. The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
People want "ruthless" when it comes to players they don't like, but when it comes to a player they do like they throw their toys out of the pram.
People need to trust Amorim & Ineos to do what's best for the team.
@ This is nt Amorim's decision . This is an INEOS decision.
@TheSt1092 That's what Mark says. That's what Mark invented in his head. The reality is different.
I wouldn’t sell garnacho even for 80 mil
he’s young yet and has skill that could be developed
Been against ineos since day 1……. I didn’t think it get this bad thought tbh
Haven't heard this news anywhere else🤔
You won't, it's all guesswork, speculation and gossip as always.
I don't care who comes or goes as long as the manager backs it
Id rather have a player that Amorim wants for his system.
If Garnacho and Rashford both leave, who will play on the left behind the main striker?
Bruno LAM, Amad RAM and JZ as either 10. Mainoo could also be a possibility, with Collyer as the other DM with Ugarte
Garncho ain’t Giggs Scholes Not even Nani but I think we need to hang on to him for now sell in summer
If United has to sell to buy and the only players that people want are Garnacho and Mainoo then United has no other choice. Nobody wants Rashford, Antony or Casemiro who everyone expected to leave.
Selling Garnacho is insane
I don't care who we sell to get utd back to the top. Then we can keep whoever we want
If we don't sell Garnacho ..then we won't have to buy another player for £70 million.
Mark says United way is back 4 with wingers but supports Amorim who does the opposite. Mark confusedbridge
How can they let our star players leave
Which star player is leaving? I don't see any
Garnacho can't Finish,Pass,dribble. his technical ability is bang avarage.his In game IQ is dreadful.We cry that we dont get rid of avarage players when we do we start crying???
Exactly. He's just not that good. And people are demanding a world record fee for him?! Deary me. If we can get £50m with add-ons and a sell-on clause, happy days.
@@jamestabbron8124 give me one attribute Garnacho is outstanding at then I will change my mind
His problem is consistency/maturity the ability is there.
God forbid there’s such a thing as development
@hannanaby my point is that they is nothing to develop
If Amorim wants Garnacho he will stay if he is not in his plans he should be sold. We can't just hold onto Garnacho because we have culture. He will only depreciate because he can never be a 10 Amad is different. If he stays,The fans, Garnacho and Amorim will suffer.
When I say we're broke, some fans remind me that sir Jim is a billionaire.
Man United is BROKE.😮
if radcliffe and the glazers sell garnacho i hope cassimero erickson shaw Anthony and all the other players that are surplus to requirements sit out there contracts to squeeze every penny out of them greedy owners
70mil is good. That’s football you rebuild a team
I appreciate your work here, but please don't repeat one point throughout the show.
We can be broke because of the Glazers. We are. We have also paid £20m to ETH and £10m for Ashworth under Ineos. So if we sell our best talents to buy, Ineos take the full force of the blame for me.
Definitely not sell Garnacho.
This morning today was rashford day!.
It goes against everything club stands for 😡
Horrible decision making by INEOS, hurts my gut
After today's games we are 15th in the prem. Palace are above us, wham are above us. The only team below us are Lester, ipswich, wolves, Hampton and everton.
Lose tomorrow and we are in a relegation battle.
Age and wage we complain about. Then, the club decides to sell young players on cheap wages. I can't be asked at this point
We're bringing in young players on cheap wages so wtf you on about? We will continue bringing in young, cheap players. Gone are the days of marquee signings left and right
so what if Naples want him .. doesn't mean anything !!!
Mark said what can u buy for 60mil arsenal are signing zubemendi for 60mil
I'd sell Mount & Hojlund ahead of Garnacho.
I can take Garnacho but my red line is Mainoo. No coming back from that for Ineos from me.
Removed the dead wood 1st, don’t care how Ineos do it.
People want open heart surgery until it's time for open heart surgery.
Maybe the loan deals that Amad went on made him. Garnacho may need the same treatment
We would sell Garnacho for £70m then go buy Osimehn for more.
if you think garnacho is ever going to real madrid for 100 mil you are simply delusional
City sold Cole Palmer for 40million…what’s he worth now?
We need to get rid of loads of them to be fair. i dont think RA likes him too much anyway. RA doesn't play him much
Are we still backing ineos if we do the garnacho deal ? I’ve never liked them coming in but gave them the benefit of the doubt , that started wavering when they laid staff off , if they get rid of garnacho I’m ineos out, unless it’s what Amorim wants ?
Why is Garnacho leaving? Because he is not thriving in amorims setup.
I'll take Mbuemo over Garnacho
Ineos are actually trashing their own image every day
No way Garnacho is worth £70m
Mark plays too much fifa
What happened to back your manager goldbridge??? If he wants to sell him it’s up to him
And if RA wants to keep him and develop him? Amorim is known to develop players at Sporting...
Nacho is a big headed show pony... get rid
Mbuemo is great.
Basically...just another non story...to make a non story programme
how are we going to progress as aclub if we are emotionally attached to these players>>>>check again we are 14th!!!
So sell our best young talents, got ya
So sell the players who have the potential to raise us later on?
I'd take a year of 10th (obv, not going to accept that), if we get 4th next year due to player development.
We are a point behind Tottenham, who are "top 4 contenders"... They lose and we win tmr, we go above them...
Mmm..... manager doesn't like him, , sell him. Mainoo is a different story, can't sell him
What's your solution then mark
Nacho Get Rid ! Rashford Get Rid ! Hojland Get Rid !
Bruno Get Rid! Ugarte Get Rid! De Ligt Get Rid! Antony Sign New Deal!
You can't do that all the player fc idiots will cry
Mainoo get rid ! Colyer get rid ! Amad get rid
Do you actually think Amorin would come to utd if they were selling the best players, Garnacho not even a regular starter,only people who know what's going on is Amorin and Berada, just stirring up shite
We can’t all Mainoo!!!
What if Garnacho is one of the players who doesn't apply himself in training, like Rashford? Amorim left him on the bench against City at the same time as Rashford so he may have seen the same problems in both. Perhaps he Is aplying a bit more, but not enough for the new coach's standards.
Sentimental FC is youth academy player FC is disguise
(as a 19yr old), it's not sentimental FC, it's common sense...
If we sold Giggsy and Scholes when they were 19, they would NEVER be MU legends to the level they are rn (from the Class of 92).
Youngsters are valued more than 30+ yrs old, because they have TIME to DEVELOP the necessary skills of their specific trade of the position they play...
At the end of the day, football is a business. Everyone has a price.
If garnacho goes I want lubotka and 30 million in return
Big mistake selling garna
Thought we needed a clear out and support the manager
lol until the manager does something they dont like..
We need a clear out ... but of deadwood like Shaw and Erikesen , Mount and Casemiro and Rashford not players with high potential like Garnacho and Mainoo.
@TheSt1092 Amorim & Ineos decide who stays and who goes. You don't have any say.
INEOS has power over transfers that's why Amorim is head coach and not manager.
@TheSt1092 think you need to go back to Amorims first interviews
That wasn’t American accent 😂😂
Rash needs to wait till his gf gets kicked off love island first
😂😂😢
SELL NONE OF OUR YOUNG STARS and remove dead wood DONT WORRY ABOUT PLAYERS MOVING ON FREE TRANSFERS EITHER keep Maguire he is awesome in this system