I’m confused at what you’re surprised about truly, Mark at 6:55. They didn’t have the technical acumen to play ten Hag’s system. Thus why we had to revert back. Now you’re wondering why these same players can’t play in amorims system.
"I had a conversation with Sir Alex and I told him that to me Manchester united is a house in terrible state . And the point is not even about buying new furniture. It's about Cleaning the house first. I told the board before we even think of buying new furniture let's make sure we have a clean house. Take away the old. Clean the tables and the walls and put air freshener. And then you bring nice new furniture in a fresh house. Right now we Have 0 new furniture and a dirty old house which is why I said that taking this club In that state ahead of Liverpool Chelsea arsenal and spurs last season was an incredible achievement this is a 6th to 9th level team " Mourinho during his last week at united
The main problem at man United is these platforms and jenalism ,ex players talking too much confusing players and managers.look at other clubs they are quiet doing their work.😊
It's stupid to say amorim should try changing tactics. News flash he got the job with his tactics and ideas if you want him to change them there was no point in hiring him
Mark, many of these players grew up poor and hungry. For them getting these fantastic contracts and wage is MAKING IT big time. NOWHERE else would have they made anywhere close to the money the incompetent Glazer henchmen GIFTED them. The big house, cars, jewelry, … in their head they have MADE IT big time. Winning games or trophies have NO important place in their life goals. Rashford, Shaw, and Antony are the archetype of such mentality. It's written on their faces when they are on the pitch. These guys are NOTHING like a Ronaldo who came from very poor background but his mentality demanded success and winning. It was his life goals from start. United players are from wayyyyy lesser levels.
@victorokon623 depends if he is good enough, most English players are not. As a sub he be good but definitely need someone better as first team choice
The main issue in the squad is the absence of an on-pitch leader or captain. No one directs the players during the flow of the match or keeps them in line - everything is haphazard.
Honestly only players I would 100% take would be: De ligt Mazroui Mainoo Ugarte Amad Some others are close simply due to age and lack of opportunities (Hojlund… possibly Garnacho if he can improve his decision making)… but that’s about it.
@@This_Is_SomethingLend me a Yoro! Awfully average just like all our purchases. Will never have a major career like Vida or Stam for example. No way near that talented and probably likely he will return to the French League.
@@This_Is_Something tbf I did in my anger forget about him. 😂 take him for potential like mainoo yes. Worst case he ends up good but not amazing and we can sell him.
@@Club1878 I feel you there mate😂 I am so pissed off with the ownership and majority of these players. And yes I agree, Mainoo and Yoro have a ton of potential and there's no downside, worst case is exactly that.
The only way Amorim survives at the club is to hope for a few signings in January n to integrate a couple of players from the youth team. If he relies on the senior players or players brought under ETH, he is going to fail!
Bullshit. If he's not at least given the summer transfer window and the next season, then his signing was a joke and United will stay out of the EPL until the Glazers finally sell the club for $0.50 to a small graphic design company operating out of a single-room flat.
How many decent managers do we have to go through before the club clock onto the fact that they're never going to get out of the mess they've created over 10 years or more unless they back the right manager FULLY for as long as it takes, regardless of results in the first season? I would honestly keep Amorim even if we ended up getting relegation. At least that way we'd see an exodus of the many, many overpaid and substandard players that we have in the first team. It's NEVER going to work having managers for 2-3 seasons before sacking and hiring again and thinking the club will inch it's way back into good shape. You have to allow a manager to tear apart the first team squad and rebuild it with players that perfectly fit the system they want to play. Unfortunately that's going to take at least 3 years with the ridiculous contracts that club has handed out to players that should have been sold but that's not the managers fault. It's time to stick with a manager for the long haul, allow them to remove and buy the players they want and properly back them to see a project though. There is no other way, we've seen it with our own eyes for 10 years
All these idiot fans who think it's the manager every time need to go and support someone else. Then they will say they shouldn't have got rid of Sancho etc . Joke fans
Just found this channel recently and I'm loving Goldbridge's analysis and updates.. Always seems even-handed and fair. The best TH-cam football analysis channel IMO. Subscribed.
Just you wait, till its not even handed and fair. Dont base your analysis on Goldbridge and formulate your own opinion. Treat Mark like a normal dude at a pub with an opinion and when he says something you dont agree with your whole world isn't flipped upside down. Chill
@@This_Is_Something I'm chill. My whole world doesn't depend on one opinion. I don't have to 100% agree with everything he says to highly enjoy his content, but I do like most of his takes. Peace.
Impatient bum. You cry of over bloated staff at the club and moan about expensive players yet when he makes changes you cry over it. Are you on your period😂
Players worth keeping for another year to see if they work under Amorim - De Ligt, Yoro, Mazroui, Ugarte, Amad, Garnacho, Rasmus, Zirkzee - they have the footballing intelligence to learn given the opportunity to actually train under Amorim
Understand what you mean about Zirkzee going in January but we would then definitely have to buy a striker in January as well as a LB for sure as we can't go back to just one striker until the summer.
@jameskenes86 so what is he then? He's not a midfielder or winger is he. May not be an out and out striker but he is still meant to be a creative forward/striker who is better than just Rasmus until we get another out and out striker or one comes through from the youth
@richardmatthews154 he says he is more like number 10 with striker elements....and we dont see this on the pitch, so... well obi martin is 100% better now than zirkzee as a striker
Thanks for being honest Mark its a deep root issue new manager is bringing light into the darkness. The Truth. We need to trust the new manager .Thanks. Joseph
Nothing is ever perfect in life. All you can do is try your best. The point is that people understand what you’re trying to do to make people happy and content they’re not alone. Well done for 2 million 👏👏👏
Just give me some blistering pace and tenacity. Mendes, quenda, Osimhen, Kuno, Samu, Nusa… just pace and energy will help us so much in a short space of time.
I think all the players who have actual positions in Amorim's system will eventually improve over time. Players like Rashford, Garnacho, Zirkzee, Malacia who are not suitable for any position in the system should be moved on as well as the old crop like Casemiro, Eriksen, Maguire, etc.
We need to get three starters not bench players. Players that will push everyone else, people that are willing to take the load, with a chip on their shoulder, telling everyone follow me, leaders that will establish a new standard that won't fall or bow down to the pressure of the rest. Players that establish Amorims standards and overstepping all that won't get in line with the vision.
I say Rubin is to not change his ideology or his philosophy at all. We need to shed some of these players because at this point it’s not even about talent but the basics of football i.e work rate. No tactics will work with lazy players.
De ligt captained Ajax at 18, leads on and off the pitch, is a model united player, and will shout at players with the armband on or not. Giving him the armband is a no brainer and thinking he'll cave into the pressure just shows how much you know about him as a player.
This guy is nuts most of players are on long term contract 2-5 years its over for our club blame the scotting system these players have a right to rot inside the club on millions of pounds per year also i think glazers are tanking the club as they did to most of there businesses
90% of players from ralf's time are already gone and it's still "these players", all new signings will become "these players" and the cycle just never ends
When players and coaches are getting signed for the club there’s so much hype and expectation. I can go as far as saying they were one the best at their club but for some reason after a few months at man Utd they aren’t good anymore. How can we keep blaming them? The problem began when SAF left. Instead of allowing Mike Phelan or other asst coaches to take the job, we allowed Moyes in with his coaches, inherited a championship team but yet struggled immensely. The club hasn’t recovered to this day and every time there is a manager change, it’s someone completely different to the previous. We then go through an overhaul of players and playing style to suit the manager’s philosophy every 2nd to 3rd season and we are surprised where we at in the table and how we are playing. I’m not surprised Marcus brains is cooked at this point.
@ if he was producing goals, we would not be having this convo. A lot of the big name forward spent/used their energies going forward oppose to tracking back. Currently he isn’t producing nor tracking back as many thinks he should so he is an easy target. Surely he can’t be worse that Joshua, anthony or garna
What I can’t understand is that we have the same issues no matter who the players are or who the manager is. This has been the same for a decade but players and managers have come and gone.
To be fair, Everton for the short period under Ancelotti looked 100% better and more interesting, some coaches will do tactical approach to their players and make teams better, like sir alex, for some reason the new thing is "we must play the same way every game and having the ball more means that we are a cooler team". I honestly don't think this is going to be the success but it may lead to some players leaving and renewal of the squad.
Man U didn't pay 34m for Zirkzee. That was his release clause. We had to pay extra to pay in instalments, we paid a huge agent fee (he was asking for 12m), a signing bonus and 6 months wages. Also Italian clubs will not be able to match his current wages, so he will need a small ish pay off to go too.
Quick facts: United isn't made for Amorim, it was made for Ten Hag for £200 millions. That's Ten Hag's team since the INEOS idiotically renewed his contract for no reason then almost instantly sacked him. You can't simply change the whole team in the middle of the season, you can only fix some parts and that may be the last breath for United. It's a dangerous situation for sure, and this danger means RELEGATION.
In hindsight. I wonder if it would have been sooo bad if Amorim did play to the players strengths for results, get them behind him and then coach them in the pre season. It’s obvious they can’t play it, so it’s kind of a waste anyways. Might as well finish higher up the table, get Europe and more cash.
Why multiple players can’t adapt to different playing styles is the real mystery. And it’s affecting new players too which is not surprising I suppose as they will be only as good as those around them.
Most of these Utd players cant be arsed because they are under the impression that they are "untouchable." Amorim needs to start rolling heads. Start by selling Rashford and Bruno. Maybe if the "starboys" get sold then the rest will start to pull their finger out
Has Sir Jim part owned United for a year, or is it 10 months?!? Yes, it was announced Christmas Eve last year that they were buying a portion of the club, but it wasn't ratified until the end of February this year. They were able to do any work until then.
United needs to be relogated for its own good. Relegation will : Get rid of the dead wood of players Get rid of the dead wood of back room staff Get rid of dead wood owners Get rid of toxic fans It will also give man utd the breathing space to rebuild.
GO WATCH what John Terry says about when Abromovich said to the whole chelsea sqaud when he bought them...he left the players in no doubt they'd be sold and replaced if they didn't perform
Why did Casemiro seemingly have an upturn in form under Ruud Van Nistelrooy but has gone back to his old self under Ruben Amorim????? He's bloody downed tools again under the new manager.
You are talking about the players in training and general attitude on the pitch… Mourinho talked about that… he said “you have to be mumble enough to fight for every ball”… it’s something we have lost 🤔
I'm surprised Mark says he would definitely take 4 or 5 players on the journey if he was Amorim. I'd only be certain about one: Amad Diallo. There are a couple other players that I would consider - like Ugarte and Mazraoui - but they're only solid, steady players. While, I think, Amad is exceptional.
You’re right it doesn’t matter where we finish if it’s 7th or 17th, doesn’t help us in any way. Yet if we finish in the bottom half of the table I’m sorry but that isn’t acceptable. Let’s just come back next year?
Com'on guys, players are not delivering...5-6 of our players are delivering on top 10 national teams but not in utd.....it cannot be fault in just coaching/managing in utd?? Maybe the big earning in utd is making a jealousing problem??????
The main problem i feel, is that Amorim has been hyped beyond compare, and a decent spell at Sporting, has spewed the press into overdrive . The system, the system, the system and what now?. He is already looking haunted. His soul is struggling. Everyone said Ollie had to be appointed full time at this phase because he was a utd legend that had put his arm around a few players and 'voila' . He needs time to prove himself. We talk about different players after different games.None of them have proved themselves. The only one who is defo screwed is Anthony. Wait until the end of the season. The only one who has looked good .Maybe Diallo? Maybe...Let's wait a few months.
I truly don’t understand why we can’t try some youth players and bench some problematic players. If we lose then we would have lost anyway but at least we get to try out some of our youth. You never know what might happen.
Because of poor Glazer ownership and direction , including allowing player power to flourish , I think each of our managers were dead men walking on arrival. Each would have done better than they did if we had the structure and systematic approach to winning. I hope that Ineos will do the right thing by Amorim
I've heard criticism of everything except the coaching. Maybe the players need better coaching. They are not gelling as a team. And maybe they are confused and tired of trying to play 4 different systems in the past 5 years.
I’d be willing to accept relegation and everyone leaving the team if it meant that Glazers are gone and the wage bill is reset. In that situation, the only person I’d really want to keep would be Amorim
we need to get a 2nd/3rd-rate player who could play on his system and on a cheap price & wage first before signing the stars. that would give amorim a breath to move forward. may need even more time than ten hag to get the players, so the fans need to get used to this relegation battle club state.
What happened to clubs employing scouts? They should be out scouring the lower leagues for young mouldable talent that are talented enough to play Amorims system. The last few years, the players that have been bought in are show ponies that think they have already made it and don't need to adapt.
Mark why don’t say if not fair on the manager!! He knew what he’s was coming into and gladly accepted it, so had to accept the responsibility for the result regardless of reasons, he’s not managing Sporting now, and no guarantee what he did a Sporting can be replicated at Utd.
It is clear that United need to recruit better players and make more appropriate contractual arrangements. Yet they fire the Director of Football. To me that is bizarre. They are scrimping and saving. They lack vision and football know -how.
At this point Ive lost hope on even new players that might come to this club, at the end they will be not good enough for some reason no matter if they been the league’s MVP or something
I used to watch George Best play. Played hard on the field and off the field . He was talented enough to do both . This lot of players are not . Best had a great manager and he played with individuals who were talented but put the team first ! ! We need a much better team mentality and much greater loyalty from the players !
I dont get why you keep targeting zirkzee on this, Honestly i dont think ive seen anything more from Hojlund to see hes any better, they are different but Rasmus just is not a real nr 9, hes never at the right spots.
The truth is once we have a manager with a plan and tactics other than hit and hope the players fail. Their IQ on the pitch is so poor. Poor decision making unable to adapt to a football plan. Ralph came with a plan and had to scrap, ETH had a plan but reverted and not Ruben.. have professional pride, try and we will support but not being a&)3d then you deserve the complaints
Mark you’re being dunce. They’re not going to say they’re going to go for this and that player when the clubs will just charge us more. We know they want players and deals done in January so just gotta wait to see what happens
why Amorim changing the style of play. Arne slot didn't change the system and their players are doing very well. If you always change the system,it's going to confuse the players. If Amorim get sacked and another manager coming in he will play is own system and it's going to futher confuse players.
Slots style is same as klopp. Liverpool went for a manager with same style that suits their players. On the other hand amorim is a good coach and has his style, manutd knew his style b4 going for him so a change of style was on the card b4 his appointment
Sir Alex we all love however he's responsible looking back 11years later. We won thr 2012/13 Tittle because of 29yo RVP and majority of that squad was old asf. He also appointed Moyes instead of Jose or Pep then. He wanted us to miss him and his ego It's the hard truth
@pooldead7712not necessarily blaming fergie but it does play a part, you just need to look at how he left united and klopp left Liverpool I’m not comparing the two I’m just saying look at what they left each of their clubs with
@TeeSavedbyGrace I get you, moyes wasn't fergies first choice though, I think pep was approached I may be wrong as one of the choices, fergoe didn't leave the strongest of teams but he did get the most of it.
Pedro Gonçalves is a fantastic player, you should check him out! I say he is way better than garnacho, it does not have that ster mindset, only the will to play
Why not use the youth, if the season is a right off anyway, why not give them a chance and playing in bigger games. The pundits won’t be able to say anything because they’ll be able to see what Amorim is doing
I don’t care about Amad Ugarte Yoro. A clear out and find the best players who are currently available for a particular position just simply sign them up. Ineos should go if they can’t buy good players.
I’m confused at what you’re surprised about truly, Mark at 6:55. They didn’t have the technical acumen to play ten Hag’s system. Thus why we had to revert back. Now you’re wondering why these same players can’t play in amorims system.
bcos its not the same players. Wakey wakey. Look at Ralfs squad, look at this squad…
@@Toptopplayer-k9m did I miss amorims transfer window? Or are these the same players ten Hag just had.
@@Toptopplayer-k9m HAHA!!! You make-a-no-sense.
The players have gone through so many managers, they think they're untouchable. That's why they can't be asked, they believe they're safe.
I was 11 when United last won the league, it was a very special memory. It’s a crime that the club has been allowed to erode into this position today.
I was 4....
🎉🎉🎉7ďß😢
"I had a conversation with Sir Alex and I told him that to me Manchester united is a house in terrible state . And the point is not even about buying new furniture. It's about Cleaning the house first. I told the board before we even think of buying new furniture let's make sure we have a clean house. Take away the old. Clean the tables and the walls and put air freshener. And then you bring nice new furniture in a fresh house. Right now we Have 0 new furniture and a dirty old house which is why I said that taking this club In that state ahead of Liverpool Chelsea arsenal and spurs last season was an incredible achievement this is a 6th to 9th level team "
Mourinho during his last week at united
He never said that 😂
@@jabzz9Watch his press conference before Liverpool which was his last game
I can't believe there's content creators already turning on the manager, it's unbelievable.
Who?
@ree3211 just look at the thumbnails of whose live.
Sorry, you lost me. All good 👍🏼
It's quite ridiculous... its been clear for so long the problem is the management and the players...
The main problem at man United is these platforms and jenalism ,ex players talking too much confusing players and managers.look at other clubs they are quiet doing their work.😊
It's stupid to say amorim should try changing tactics. News flash he got the job with his tactics and ideas if you want him to change them there was no point in hiring him
Good coaches recognize when an adjustment is needed
Like it But this is prem league. Not Portuguese. His attitude is spot on
. Formation not so
Exactly
@@traceybean9449then it will be the same fate as the previous 5 managers
You've nailed it
Mark, many of these players grew up poor and hungry. For them getting these fantastic contracts and wage is MAKING IT big time. NOWHERE else would have they made anywhere close to the money the incompetent Glazer henchmen GIFTED them. The big house, cars, jewelry, … in their head they have MADE IT big time.
Winning games or trophies have NO important place in their life goals. Rashford, Shaw, and Antony are the archetype of such mentality. It's written on their faces when they are on the pitch.
These guys are NOTHING like a Ronaldo who came from very poor background but his mentality demanded success and winning. It was his life goals from start. United players are from wayyyyy lesser levels.
I'm not sure people understand the gravity of the situation.
relegation battle
De Ligt was a good captain at Ajax. So the answer to the question of who would be our captain other than Bruno Fernandez would be De Ligt.
Bruno must not be the captain then he will start playing better.He loses forcus during the game because of trying giving orders to his teammates.
Building for the future. With Brunos age and moderate performances, we should be grooming a new young captain to meet that plan. Thoughts Mark.
Mainoo?
Grooming? 👀
@victorokon623 , he is too slow and lethargic without the ball. Good on the ball bu the young man can't track opponents. Very sad for his age
@victorokon623 depends if he is good enough, most English players are not. As a sub he be good but definitely need someone better as first team choice
Grooming is the wrong word
The main issue in the squad is the absence of an on-pitch leader or captain.
No one directs the players during the flow of the match or keeps them in line - everything is haphazard.
This club NEVER fails to disappoint even during Christmas 🫥
Honestly only players I would 100% take would be:
De ligt
Mazroui
Mainoo
Ugarte
Amad
Some others are close simply due to age and lack of opportunities (Hojlund… possibly Garnacho if he can improve his decision making)… but that’s about it.
Yoro?
@@This_Is_SomethingLend me a Yoro! Awfully average just like all our purchases. Will never have a major career like Vida or Stam for example. No way near that talented and probably likely he will return to the French League.
@@This_Is_Something tbf I did in my anger forget about him. 😂 take him for potential like mainoo yes. Worst case he ends up good but not amazing and we can sell him.
@@Club1878 I feel you there mate😂 I am so pissed off with the ownership and majority of these players. And yes I agree, Mainoo and Yoro have a ton of potential and there's no downside, worst case is exactly that.
The only way Amorim survives at the club is to hope for a few signings in January n to integrate a couple of players from the youth team. If he relies on the senior players or players brought under ETH, he is going to fail!
Bullshit. If he's not at least given the summer transfer window and the next season, then his signing was a joke and United will stay out of the EPL until the Glazers finally sell the club for $0.50 to a small graphic design company operating out of a single-room flat.
Instead of "player power" we're starting to realise "problem players" and that's a positive in my opinion.
Congratulations on the big 2m Mark and thanks for all the amazing content
How many decent managers do we have to go through before the club clock onto the fact that they're never going to get out of the mess they've created over 10 years or more unless they back the right manager FULLY for as long as it takes, regardless of results in the first season? I would honestly keep Amorim even if we ended up getting relegation. At least that way we'd see an exodus of the many, many overpaid and substandard players that we have in the first team. It's NEVER going to work having managers for 2-3 seasons before sacking and hiring again and thinking the club will inch it's way back into good shape. You have to allow a manager to tear apart the first team squad and rebuild it with players that perfectly fit the system they want to play. Unfortunately that's going to take at least 3 years with the ridiculous contracts that club has handed out to players that should have been sold but that's not the managers fault. It's time to stick with a manager for the long haul, allow them to remove and buy the players they want and properly back them to see a project though. There is no other way, we've seen it with our own eyes for 10 years
All these idiot fans who think it's the manager every time need to go and support someone else. Then they will say they shouldn't have got rid of Sancho etc . Joke fans
well said, mate 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Well said but thats if the leadership cared enough.
Well put! It is line in the sand time. We have to tough this one no matter what comes if we want to get back to the top!
@@endlessmotion2255 I agree with ya 💯%
Just found this channel recently and I'm loving Goldbridge's analysis and updates.. Always seems even-handed and fair.
The best TH-cam football analysis channel IMO. Subscribed.
Just you wait, till its not even handed and fair. Dont base your analysis on Goldbridge and formulate your own opinion. Treat Mark like a normal dude at a pub with an opinion and when he says something you dont agree with your whole world isn't flipped upside down. Chill
@@This_Is_Something I'm chill. My whole world doesn't depend on one opinion. I don't have to 100% agree with everything he says to highly enjoy his content, but I do like most of his takes. Peace.
@@pesmasterleague-u9s Good to know, but you were clearly glazing.
Sir Jim's made no difference to the football side but sacked a lot of people that needed their jobs
He's done nothing for nice either. Vanity project him and the glazers and players sending united to the championship
Ineos out
Impatient bum. You cry of over bloated staff at the club and moan about expensive players yet when he makes changes you cry over it. Are you on your period😂
@@ShaquilleOatmeal730club is falling to bits.. Team stadium training ground... No cash..
Players worth keeping for another year to see if they work under Amorim - De Ligt, Yoro, Mazroui, Ugarte, Amad, Garnacho, Rasmus, Zirkzee - they have the footballing intelligence to learn given the opportunity to actually train under Amorim
MARK.. you are a very dedicated and hard working TH-camr.. youngsters should take note of your hard work and get inspired.
Understand what you mean about Zirkzee going in January but we would then definitely have to buy a striker in January as well as a LB for sure as we can't go back to just one striker until the summer.
Still zirkzee isnt striker even he says that....
@jameskenes86 so what is he then? He's not a midfielder or winger is he. May not be an out and out striker but he is still meant to be a creative forward/striker who is better than just Rasmus until we get another out and out striker or one comes through from the youth
@richardmatthews154 he says he is more like number 10 with striker elements....and we dont see this on the pitch, so... well obi martin is 100% better now than zirkzee as a striker
Obi Just not gonna be ready just yet but the future looks bright if we can survive long enough to get there!
@richardmatthews154 zirkzee isnt ready too... he didnt have any good perfomance since his debut and anyone can do better than him
Thanks for being honest Mark its a deep root issue new manager is bringing light into the darkness. The Truth. We need to trust the new manager .Thanks. Joseph
Nothing is ever perfect in life. All you can do is try your best. The point is that people understand what you’re trying to do to make people happy and content they’re not alone. Well done for 2 million 👏👏👏
Just give me some blistering pace and tenacity. Mendes, quenda, Osimhen, Kuno, Samu, Nusa… just pace and energy will help us so much in a short space of time.
13:16 that team would wreck others
I think all the players who have actual positions in Amorim's system will eventually improve over time. Players like Rashford, Garnacho, Zirkzee, Malacia who are not suitable for any position in the system should be moved on as well as the old crop like Casemiro, Eriksen, Maguire, etc.
We need to get three starters not bench players. Players that will push everyone else, people that are willing to take the load, with a chip on their shoulder, telling everyone follow me, leaders that will establish a new standard that won't fall or bow down to the pressure of the rest. Players that establish Amorims standards and overstepping all that won't get in line with the vision.
Really makes me wonder if Ineos made the right decision by sacking ETH. Now it feels like its even worse than under ETH.
Could you imagine that old school team of players in this system? Wow.
I say Rubin is to not change his ideology or his philosophy at all. We need to shed some of these players because at this point it’s not even about talent but the basics of football i.e work rate. No tactics will work with lazy players.
It's gona take this manager 4 years to get this club anywhere near wat we should be but give him a 2 and 1/2 year contract make it make sense
That's because he will get sacked coz united are a disease
De ligt captained Ajax at 18, leads on and off the pitch, is a model united player, and will shout at players with the armband on or not. Giving him the armband is a no brainer and thinking he'll cave into the pressure just shows how much you know about him as a player.
There are no players in this squad that need to stay, all are sellable.
Not ugarte
Mark, I want to say this to you, you inspire me a lot, so relentlessly hardworking. What a guy
This guy is nuts most of players are on long term contract 2-5 years its over for our club blame the scotting system these players have a right to rot inside the club on millions of pounds per year also i think glazers are tanking the club as they did to most of there businesses
90% of players from ralf's time are already gone and it's still "these players", all new signings will become "these players" and the cycle just never ends
When players and coaches are getting signed for the club there’s so much hype and expectation. I can go as far as saying they were one the best at their club but for some reason after a few months at man Utd they aren’t good anymore. How can we keep blaming them?
The problem began when SAF left. Instead of allowing Mike Phelan or other asst coaches to take the job, we allowed Moyes in with his coaches, inherited a championship team but yet struggled immensely. The club hasn’t recovered to this day and every time there is a manager change, it’s someone completely different to the previous. We then go through an overhaul of players and playing style to suit the manager’s philosophy every 2nd to 3rd season and we are surprised where we at in the table and how we are playing. I’m not surprised Marcus brains is cooked at this point.
Marcus is rubbish and lazy. Needs to be sold
@ if he was producing goals, we would not be having this convo. A lot of the big name forward spent/used their energies going forward oppose to tracking back. Currently he isn’t producing nor tracking back as many thinks he should so he is an easy target. Surely he can’t be worse that Joshua, anthony or garna
@@terranceward5872 even when he scores he's rubbish. Need more than just goals to be good
What I can’t understand is that we have the same issues no matter who the players are or who the manager is. This has been the same for a decade but players and managers have come and gone.
lol Amorim ball is way better than the last three managers we got!! We never had 60 possession in games!! just need players!!!
In Amorim we trust
To be fair, Everton for the short period under Ancelotti looked 100% better and more interesting, some coaches will do tactical approach to their players and make teams better, like sir alex, for some reason the new thing is "we must play the same way every game and having the ball more means that we are a cooler team". I honestly don't think this is going to be the success but it may lead to some players leaving and renewal of the squad.
Man U didn't pay 34m for Zirkzee. That was his release clause. We had to pay extra to pay in instalments, we paid a huge agent fee (he was asking for 12m), a signing bonus and 6 months wages. Also Italian clubs will not be able to match his current wages, so he will need a small ish pay off to go too.
Quick facts: United isn't made for Amorim, it was made for Ten Hag for £200 millions. That's Ten Hag's team since the INEOS idiotically renewed his contract for no reason then almost instantly sacked him. You can't simply change the whole team in the middle of the season, you can only fix some parts and that may be the last breath for United. It's a dangerous situation for sure, and this danger means RELEGATION.
In hindsight. I wonder if it would have been sooo bad if Amorim did play to the players strengths for results, get them behind him and then coach them in the pre season. It’s obvious they can’t play it, so it’s kind of a waste anyways. Might as well finish higher up the table, get Europe and more cash.
By making a manager go with something he doesn’t do
Then there would have been no point in getting him till summers like m8 get on the program or get out
Why multiple players can’t adapt to different playing styles is the real mystery. And it’s affecting new players too which is not surprising I suppose as they will be only as good as those around them.
Most of these Utd players cant be arsed because they are under the impression that they are "untouchable." Amorim needs to start rolling heads. Start by selling Rashford and Bruno. Maybe if the "starboys" get sold then the rest will start to pull their finger out
Has Sir Jim part owned United for a year, or is it 10 months?!? Yes, it was announced Christmas Eve last year that they were buying a portion of the club, but it wasn't ratified until the end of February this year. They were able to do any work until then.
Sir Jim is there in charge of footballing decisions but sacking non football staff why is no one saying it’s coming directly from the glazers
United needs to be relogated for its own good.
Relegation will :
Get rid of the dead wood of players
Get rid of the dead wood of back room staff
Get rid of dead wood owners
Get rid of toxic fans
It will also give man utd the breathing space to rebuild.
No thank you. That is 100% not the way to go. Sorry for the disappointment.
Said it last year.... It's so bad,that relegation could be a reasonable option,for the reasons you mentioned.
Man utd wouldn't never be relegated they to much of a big club to get relegated guys
@@Manchesterceltic I remember the last time..... came back stronger.
@g.g.6362 that was history the future of utd they won't get relegated now. But I do see your point to.
GO WATCH what John Terry says about when Abromovich said to the whole chelsea sqaud when he bought them...he left the players in no doubt they'd be sold and replaced if they didn't perform
Why did Casemiro seemingly have an upturn in form under Ruud Van Nistelrooy but has gone back to his old self under Ruben Amorim????? He's bloody downed tools again under the new manager.
It’s because he was playing besides Ugarte who was doing the leg work for him all he had to do was dictate the play
You are talking about the players in training and general attitude on the pitch… Mourinho talked about that… he said “you have to be mumble enough to fight for every ball”… it’s something we have lost 🤔
That should have read “humble” 😂
Well said Mark!! Absolutely Spot on. These players are not Respected.
I'm surprised Mark says he would definitely take 4 or 5 players on the journey if he was Amorim. I'd only be certain about one: Amad Diallo.
There are a couple other players that I would consider - like Ugarte and Mazraoui - but they're only solid, steady players. While, I think, Amad is exceptional.
I hope we don't get relegated. Can Amorim keep us up this season?
Fulham players play with such effort. Man Utd players need to take a leaf out of their book
Sir Jim's motto is "Trim the staff to make the club look bigger".
It doesn't even matter who we play now. Every game is a must win.
You’re right it doesn’t matter where we finish if it’s 7th or 17th, doesn’t help us in any way. Yet if we finish in the bottom half of the table I’m sorry but that isn’t acceptable. Let’s just come back next year?
Com'on guys, players are not delivering...5-6 of our players are delivering on top 10
national teams but not in utd.....it cannot be fault in just coaching/managing in utd??
Maybe the big earning in utd is making a jealousing problem??????
The main problem i feel, is that Amorim has been hyped beyond compare, and a decent spell at Sporting, has spewed the press into overdrive . The system, the system, the system and what now?. He is already looking haunted. His soul is struggling. Everyone said Ollie had to be appointed full time at this phase because he was a utd legend that had put his arm around a few players and 'voila' . He needs time to prove himself. We talk about different players after different games.None of them have proved themselves. The only one who is defo screwed is Anthony. Wait until the end of the season. The only one who has looked good .Maybe Diallo? Maybe...Let's wait a few months.
I truly don’t understand why we can’t try some youth players and bench some problematic players. If we lose then we would have lost anyway but at least we get to try out some of our youth. You never know what might happen.
Only wholesale changes could work for Amorim
Because of poor Glazer ownership and direction , including allowing player power to flourish , I think each of our managers were dead men walking on arrival. Each would have done better than they did if we had the structure and systematic approach to winning. I hope that Ineos will do the right thing by Amorim
Surely we have some youth prospects to try out - collyer? Wheaton?
I've heard criticism of everything except the coaching. Maybe the players need better coaching. They are not gelling as a team.
And maybe they are confused and tired of trying to play 4 different systems in the past 5 years.
can't blame the lad the British press have hammered him Zirkzee I mean
If he goes under his own steam & leaves the club. I'll be shocked, happy but shocked.
I’d be willing to accept relegation and everyone leaving the team if it meant that Glazers are gone and the wage bill is reset. In that situation, the only person I’d really want to keep would be Amorim
we need to get a 2nd/3rd-rate player who could play on his system and on a cheap price & wage first before signing the stars. that would give amorim a breath to move forward.
may need even more time than ten hag to get the players, so the fans need to get used to this relegation battle club state.
What happened to clubs employing scouts? They should be out scouring the lower leagues for young mouldable talent that are talented enough to play Amorims system. The last few years, the players that have been bought in are show ponies that think they have already made it and don't need to adapt.
They want the team to be relegated…only way to adjust wages & to Get players out
We need a striker, a goalkeeper, and a Carrick.
Mark why don’t say if not fair on the manager!! He knew what he’s was coming into and gladly accepted it, so had to accept the responsibility for the result regardless of reasons, he’s not managing Sporting now, and no guarantee what he did a Sporting can be replicated at Utd.
Well said!
It is clear that United need to recruit better players and make more appropriate contractual arrangements. Yet they fire the Director of Football. To me that is bizarre. They are scrimping and saving. They lack vision and football know -how.
At this point Ive lost hope on even new players that might come to this club, at the end they will be not good enough for some reason no matter if they been the league’s MVP or something
I used to watch George Best play. Played hard on the field and off the field . He was talented enough to do both . This lot of players are not . Best had a great manager and he played with individuals who were talented but put the team first ! ! We need a much better team mentality and much greater loyalty from the players !
Your right Mack 👍 yeah mate
I dont get why you keep targeting zirkzee on this, Honestly i dont think ive seen anything more from Hojlund to see hes any better, they are different but Rasmus just is not a real nr 9, hes never at the right spots.
Exactly if the pair of them leave that's a blessing from on high. They should never have been signed in the first place.
@@johnmichaelson9173 Zirkzee needs to be sold. Get in Gyokeres
Only four players would I not consider selling: Amad, Mazraoui, Yoro, and Ugarte.
Zirkzee did impress in Italy. So maybe their this clubs are genuinely interested.
It's about time the mess is cleaned up.
The truth is once we have a manager with a plan and tactics other than hit and hope the players fail. Their IQ on the pitch is so poor. Poor decision making unable to adapt to a football plan. Ralph came with a plan and had to scrap, ETH had a plan but reverted and not Ruben.. have professional pride, try and we will support but not being a&)3d then you deserve the complaints
Mark you’re being dunce. They’re not going to say they’re going to go for this and that player when the clubs will just charge us more. We know they want players and deals done in January so just gotta wait to see what happens
Correction, it's the players that the manager backed, extended and bought LOL.
Finally, Mark understands that Amed on the wing!!
why Amorim changing the style of play. Arne slot didn't change the system and their players are doing very well. If you always change the system,it's going to confuse the players. If Amorim get sacked and another manager coming in he will play is own system and it's going to futher confuse players.
Slots style is same as klopp. Liverpool went for a manager with same style that suits their players. On the other hand amorim is a good coach and has his style, manutd knew his style b4 going for him so a change of style was on the card b4 his appointment
Sir Alex we all love however he's responsible looking back 11years later. We won thr 2012/13 Tittle because of 29yo RVP and majority of that squad was old asf. He also appointed Moyes instead of Jose or Pep then. He wanted us to miss him and his ego
It's the hard truth
Pep would have done nothing at United. He is struggling with a much better city team. Jose was the one we should have got even Carlo
Lol that's it blame fergie 🤣
@pooldead7712not necessarily blaming fergie but it does play a part, you just need to look at how he left united and klopp left Liverpool I’m not comparing the two I’m just saying look at what they left each of their clubs with
@TeeSavedbyGrace I get you, moyes wasn't fergies first choice though, I think pep was approached I may be wrong as one of the choices, fergoe didn't leave the strongest of teams but he did get the most of it.
@pooldead7712 That's the issue not everyone is Sir Alex
Pedro Gonçalves is a fantastic player, you should check him out! I say he is way better than garnacho, it does not have that ster mindset, only the will to play
Why not use the youth, if the season is a right off anyway, why not give them a chance and playing in bigger games. The pundits won’t be able to say anything because they’ll be able to see what Amorim is doing
Slab slows us down too much passing out. Look at how much our stats r skewed to Martinez when he plays.
In Amorim we trust get at least half the players out
I don’t care about Amad Ugarte Yoro. A clear out and find the best players who are currently available for a particular position just simply sign them up. Ineos should go if they can’t buy good players.
i dont think 2-3 players are what we need...we need atleast 5 players.
Manchester United don’t have a single player who you'd say they have to keep hold of at all costs.
As Mark said; Amad, Mazraoui, Ugarte, De Ligt. They're the only ones.
You're the best Mark!
Even Luis Saha. Cole. Yorke. Nistelrooy, Berbatov, Now we hear about Rashford giving interviews no1 cares about.
They need to do a Chelsea!
Just buy an entire squad all at once
I dont know why yu dont see it mark why support Bruno soo much while other player like zierzee have to go