Behringer WING - A complete overview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2019
- In this video:
- a close look at the hardware
- the software
- the capabilities
- IO
More infos:
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WING has 16 analog channels IO including 8 Midas Pro series mic preamps - that could be even enough for a small club gig
and for anything bigger you’re using a digital stage box
it connects to all the microphones on stage
it send’s all the monitoring to the stage
and it does everything over a regular network cable, so no more expensive and heavy multi-core cables anymore
now to manage all of these 374 inputs and 374 outputs WING uses a new concept, the so called sources - เพลง
We answered a lot of question in the live chat - if you don't see it, you can open the chat in the top right ("SHOW CHAT REPLAY" on desktop).
I would like to use this as a replacement For an audio interface, on a Mac, for my daw, which would also allow it to be a daw controller.
Can you address that as well?
You did not answer the delay compensation question. When using the standard plugins/FX in the wing, does the wing have the ability to handle the potential latency issues associated with using heavy dsp processing.
Can you cross fade snippets/snapshots?
@@NeonPLotus all the x32/m32 mixers could be used as sound cards and DAW controllers, though your mileage may vary depending on DAW. I've been able to use them as 32 channel I/O to Tracks Live, Ableton, and Reason. So this new mixer shouldn't be any different in that regard, if not better.
@@gregwhite6811 the x32/m32 mixers have manual 'delay compensation' for distances to physical live PA speakers in a venue. There isn't a need for manual 'delay compensation' for internal FX within the unit, seeing as they make all the internal plugins and DSP. Kinda like using the stock plugins in a DAW, they just work. I'm guessing the Wing would be similar, as it is primarily meant for live mixing, with DAW/studio production as a secondary goal. It isn't like the 'wild west' of VSTs, there isn't third party plugins available for them (other than through an external Waves solution, for which they have a card to interface to that). There will probably be ASIO-type driver latency settings if you use it as a sound card for your PC/Mac. But not 'delay compensation' like in a DAW for dodgy/slow/poorly coded VSTs (which I think your referring to?). I hope that answers your question? I mean, I don't work for them, but, from using the other mixers I hope that is close to explaining what the Wing will do.
You guys have come such a long way since the X32 & Air Series. Only a great company would continue supporting older products while innovating new ones. This setup looks killer.
Many thanks to the engineers of Behringer. You are defining new standards!
This is awesome! So happy to see Behringer's direction!
I just received my wing and SD..OMG the wing and the SD are amazing...This has change my recording and workflow for the better particularly when it comes to recording. I have four rooms that are used for recording. I have all the rooms attached to a patchbay that is mounted in my hallway wall. I put my sd on a rolling rack. now I just roll the rack in the hallway to plug up all rooms or just one. In the future Im sure there will be many updates making this mixer even better. I cant wait!!! Thanks Behringer!!!
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These guys are awesome lol
Their English probably is better than your German ;)
NameNaameNameeNaamee lol definitely not a knock on their accent, they just seem like really polite gents
They are obviously jizzing their heads out for their new product XDD
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Same thoughts hahahaha
- I see that the Wing features 16 stereo busses. Does that include 4 busses for effects like the X32 for reverbs and delays? Or are those accounted for separately?
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No, the aux busses are simply that. If you use Aux 16 for Reverb, you would INSERT the desired reverb onto that bus and you would set it for post-fader. The Aux bus would need to be configured as stereo and sent to the main mix or Matrix as desired. You would then use the Aux fader to control the send level to the FX. Muting the Aux would also allow the reverb and delay tails to bleed through still even though the input path is muted. There would be no need to have a return path now for the FX. The fundamental difference is that instead of controlling either the send or the return to an FX, you now only have to manipulate the feed to the FX. There is more still though...... You can place the FX level ( the actual level of the FX that we hear ) onto a custom fader and then utilize that as if it were an FX return fader. So you can utilize the mixer in a more conventional way if you wish.
I am a HUGE fan of this and many other Behringer Products. Looking forward to purchasing this mixer!!
Good video guys. Excited to learn more as the Wing becomes available to the public.
-Chad
Wow , this is really amazing , what a powerful and intuitive console , bravo!
This changes the game totally. Amazing.
- Do matrices on the Wing operate like on the X32 (a mix of mixes) or more like a Yamaha (able to receive mixes and individual channels too)?
Ascension Worship - #TechTuesday haha, looking back through these, we had literally the exact same questions.
Patrick OHara Great minds... 😉
nice to see that behringer went from a „most hated“ to „most wanted“ company! you guys are exploding the market and our budgets 😂😂😂 awesome synths and products .......
They go back. Have 1990's stuff that works perfectly today
I always loved them it's just the snobs that didn't.
Behringer has really been stepping it up lately!
- Will the Wing feature delay compensation for channels or busses with Premium effects applied to them?
I hope it does.
love the interchangeable palmrest feature. very pro and awesome
- Please explain the 4 main mixes? Are the extra channels designed to be similar to the M/C bus of the X32 but in stereo? Or for a delay fill?
Calrec has had 4 Main MIxes for ages. Their platform is for broadcast mixers that make simultaneous mixes - multiple mixes are what many top end clients want from a live event..
I would say, mix 1 for mains, mix 2 for remotes, mix 2 for an extra pair of remotes or subs, mix 4 for a broadcast/video company feed?
Great vid guys, looks like a beast!!
Another game changer ! Can’t wait for this one !
This takes Behringer to the next level
MIDAS did that. Such a huge leap. Nice to see the next iteration look so good. The X32 is super capable, but clunky to work with.
Would like to see it in the studio working with Pro Tools / Logic Pro X , multi tracking bands or audio visuals for film Etc, number of AD,DA converters etc , sounds promising .
Damn, and here I was 10 years ago using my Behringer Xenyx 1222FX, Behringer has come a long way and they’re making a name for themselves.
Finally something for the studio!!...now PLEASE make a 500 series rack chassis with AES50 ports.
Right now, I use a CL5 and I need matricies that are able to bring up individual channels plus the left/right mix. I use them for hallway and internet feeds where I need the main LR for the band, then, I need to turn up individuals for speaking, videos, and background music separately to get the volume to match the band. Can I send individual channels in addition to the main LR back to a matrix to turn them up more? Thank you!
Question #2, is SoundGrid built into the console or does the interface have to be external on a separate computer? You said soundgrid was "native," but what does that mean?
- STAGECONNECT seems incredibly interesting. Are there any specific products that you can share that will incorporate that feature in the near future?
Excited to geht one !
We've just upgraded from the x32 compact to the wing at our local theatre. Looking forward to giving this a go 🙂
Talking of DAW control, how many faders can you use simultaneously? Is it just 8 like the X32, or can you configure 12 or even 20 faders? More importantly If you are using the X32 as a 'soundcard' the signal goes to the DAW post-gain but pre everything else. Is the Wing like this or can you feed the DAW post EQ/dynamics (post-fader) which would then make it a very powerful recording console too.
(ps I know you could configure the X32 to give 16 analogue post fader outs - but then you'd need a seperate soundcard for your computer)
Band solo - what a great idea.
will there be a midas version with like better faders and potis? or did you melt the x and m series together?
Good evening... Can you help me?
I bought your two products the same in the case of the Behringer Wing Digital Mixer and on both I have a problem with recording a stereo tape on a usb drive.
If you can help me, please do so without referring me to someone who can help me.
Digital Mixer starts recording stereo on a usb drive and at some point it just stops recording and locks the screen that has the recording option ... To use usb recording again, it is necessary to remove the usb stick and return it to the console
Teasing a new mixer line below X-Air. Awesome!
Hey! Really considering this console as an option for a possible upgrade for my church. Love the point to point routing as opposed to dealing with banks of eight. Although, I would hope to see an update in the future that would offer a parametric/dynamic eq within the channel strip with the ability to sidechain...that would set this board way over the top in my book lol
We would like to see DAW integration demo with Logic Pro X . Especially as surface control device
absolutely!
... and Cubase, please.
And reason please
Its main function is for LIVE applications....so who cares about daws...its probably not the right desk for you.
FL Studio please
I was looking for a new user interface as apparently my head wasn't wired sufficient anymore to cope with routing assigning etc. on x32 anymore. When I saw this video I thought; wow, this is it. Really like the thought behind the interface and the interface itself. Also my stagebox will not be useless after the switch. I want to be ready for take off when all Covid restrictions are lifted and think this will help me do it.
Mind... Blown!
- Will the Wing feature DCA Spill (pop groups)?
- Also, would you be interested in some review videos for the Wing? Our channel currently has 90+ free videos for churches (many of which feature the X32), and I’m certain our audience would love to see how a Wing could be a useful upgrade for them :)
-Chad
Ascension Worship - #TechTuesday I’m also waiting to hear about DCA spills
Oh, Drew Brashler!!!! Behringer is calling
This looks to me like a complete game changer and looks like a really superb console. Will be looking to get one of these for the studio next year. How does this unit interface to the DAW for active controls. We would like to have our drum feeds coming into the 8 pre's on the wing and then we are looking at usingRME 2626 Firewire pre's for everything else. Can you assign the first 8 faders to control the internal pres and then the other faders to control the DAW.
Will the Wing be able to compensate for latency if I want to run a parallel plugin on a bus? For example say I wanted to do a parallel drum squash with an 1176 plugin, from what I understand the x32 doesn't really do this.
8:26 damn that was scary moment
Its the new Behringer Ghost synth.
Bahahahaha! Yeah!
They should have played the Jaws music briefly just at that point... :D
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I know, right? He was totally coiling that cable over-over and and not over-under! 🙀
We would love to see a demo of integration with a some of the to DAW's out logic pro x. PT. Studio one Cubase ect.
I would love to see how the Wing could be used to record and mix with Logic Pro.
With two 32 input stageboxes, is it able to use all those 64 inputs for separate microphones each with gain/EQ etc.?
I am a bit confused since i saw it advertised with 40 stereo channels.
Are there any plans for allowing higher sample rate operation by reducing the channel count?
I bought a X-WSG card for my X32 and would like to know if i could use it in the Wing. And whats about the „native“ Soundgrid on the Wing? Is this an option to by later, or have i to order it that way? Thanks
If only you guys could implement a full fledged daw inside of the wing. This console would be one of the best ever made hands down.
Awesome! Is there a Sends on Fader option for mixing Monitors from FOH?
Does it have a DCA Spill?
External touch screen compatible?
When programming a show, is the playback the cues same as the x32? Do you have to assign a forward and back button? For things like theatre performances.
Sounds like there are full dynamics everywhere, so there can be compression on FX returns too. The 5 plugins/channel sold me.
Can i mix like i mix on my logic pro daw? let's say i have 12 inputs for the drums and i want do send the shells on a separate bus, than the cymbals on a separate bus as well and apply eq an compression from there, without to affect physical buses on the console? also if i want to to some parallel compression as a send from the drum channel to a separate bus.
is it capable of 96 khz samplerate?
yes. what do u need 96khz for?
Will it be possible to play mp3 files from usb?
It looks amazing ! Thinking of it in my studio (as I already use X32 and XR18 live) to replace my old in-line analog console, recording direct into Logic. How can I keep using some of my favorite analog outboards (valve comps, reverb, etc.)?
Really nice! Anything new going to happen with the XR series?
Terrific product.
I’m an X-touch user for home - with a Focusrite interface and Logic Pro X on my Mac. I’d love to simplify this setup with a smaller version of WING. Maybe 1/2 of the size so it doesn’t take up all of my basement space. Say, a little WING for the home user.
Then get the x32 producer or compact. This isn't really a studio mixer, but a live mixer and it's not replacing x32
Gorgeous 😁😁
Will a wing core be coming soon ?
Are the buses phases coherent and corrected when adding in an onboard plug in effect to one yet not the other.
Awesome stuff!!! Soo how many pluggins can you use on the WING at the same time!??
can i use this for Radio Stadio?
One thing that I'd like to see a video of, for this or x32 is integrating lighting patch recall / control via midi or an integrated dmx for a system like ours which is the ADJ mydmx. This would be so very useful to live bands. Lighting and other midi programme changes on cue...
Any chance of a studio i/o box (as opposed to a rugged stage box) with jack inputs?
What is the config for the output eq's for live use? The one thing that i was turned off on the x32 was the limitations on the output graphic eq per output. I ended up purchasing another brand as every output had a dedicated 31 band on it (17 outputs). Cheers.
With the user assigned buttons and GPI control can you have macros, or is it that they will only do one command. Example, gpi triggers alt input to multiple changes. Another being toggling a solo select with user definable button.
Hi,
are the Custom Fader Layers stored along with the presets/scenes?
Or are they 'global'?
Also are you going to make different versions of this mixer like the X32? I am specifically just wondering if you are going to bring out a Wing Core. I would love to talk to a product specialist or engineer to present my idea and the reason why.
Very nice and thorough controls surface and mix board. I'd like to know in use in the studio recording environment, how would I connect this in my setup to use with protools as a control surface, but still monitor through my apollo audio interface?
At what point (input or Post Fader) is the recording taken from.
Does the midi also be used to make musical midi note data while recording virtual instruments?
I am interested in using this desk in a recording studio with a Mac and Logic. I am ok with the recording capabilities but could I mix with it ?
Yes.
Can you set up the faders so that you could have 8 DCA faders on the right and if you select one of them for example drums, the faders on the left show all the members of that DCA?
Pop groups would be excellent!!!
Aventis has this feature .. absolutely awesome feature .. would love to see it on the Wing
Can it be used as a stand alone workstation? What's the sampling rate and bit rate? I noticed there's no master fader which is odd. Can you mix and master on this board?
Very nice
Also, will you be releasing one with more faders or a side cart? I really could use 8 more faders on the surface.
You mentioned the internal "Dante" card option in the video. Is this in addition to the I/O expansion card, or is this a Dante expansion card that was in the video?
It looks like that internal Dante Option card is installed (@4:20 in the video) behind the Ethernet Ports. I suspect that is not on the expansion card! That is cool
Is there an ability to connect extra screens to the console? Aside from an iPad with the app.
Did you guys put native graphic EQs on the outputs? That seemed like quite a large oversight with the x32. Having to waste an effect bay just to get a graph on a monitor mix. Even the x-air has native graphs on the outs.
Are the Channel EQs also Dynamic EQs or just normal full parametric EQs?
The heart of my studio, my recordings, the heart of my music! - Thank you Behringer!
IKR. What power amp & recorders do you use ?
Holy shit. What a beast!
are you expecting to release a "compact" version of the wing in the future?
Very good overview video; Thanks!
Looking for a mixer for home studio with only synths (10+) multi/stereo/mono outs and drum machines with individual outs; I understand the Wing has only 8 line inputs so I would need to buy 1x16 or 2x 16 StageConnect boxes.
Correct?
What about external effects? Which in and outs are they using so I can apply external effects on any channel? How many of those external stereo effects can I use?
Of course also looking for DAW integration (Studio One, Cakewalk).
OR
is the Wing more focused to bands, live, churches...?
Still searching my workflow...analog (with patch bays and re-patching) or digital mixer, what's in the box, what's out the box...
Does it have touch sensitive motorised faders?
Will there be user profiles on the wing, in which features/access rights can be set per user/group?
Will there be a map released for ableton live or will I have to map it manually?
Hi .. how long is the maximum length of the XLR cable for a "SC Connect" connection, if you also want to power the StageBox?
Is the Wing compatible with all StageBoxes by Behringer, Midas - Midas Pro?
Has the copy-paste been improved? I have not seen a button for that, do you have to configure this in his showfile with one of the freely assignable buttons?
Thanks in advance..!!!
How does shows / snapshots / q list work? Is there crossfade between cues?
When is WING CO-PILOT app gonna be released? I can’t find it anywhere?
Will there be an adat with word clock expansion card option? How robust will the DAW control be (control via all faders, control of eq, dynamics, pan, etc?).
Do You recomend thi mixer electronic music production studio useas DAW controll surfacestudio mixing or only live mixing?
Metering ballistics?
Group processing with inserts pre/post fader?
Phase coherent?
Block diagram?
Technical data sheet?
Weight?
List of plugins & FX?
Asked before, super matrix?
Group to input?
Grip>ip>grip>mains?
Latency on ports & connections?
Latency on plugins & FX?
Rearrange processing blocks?
Insert points?
Internal sources/routing?
FX Returns?
When are al these future Stage Connect solutions (stage boxes, Personal Monitoring systems, DI boxes, breakout boxes) you spoke about introduced to market?
What about the psu board? Is it a bit more reliable than the one in the x32?
I'd love to know what other versions will be released. For example a compact type version for smaller setups. I would hope in smaller versions that there might be more inputs given they may often be mixed side of stage. Have been researching smaller digital consoles and there doesn't seem to be much in the way of current technology. Most are 5, 6, 7 years old. I just know I'll get one of these older tech style mixers and then Behringer will release the next big thing in THAT market. Perhaps a 16 or 24.
When will you release the offline editor for this mixer?
Do you have a release date for the firmware patch that will enable the control surface function? Many of us are still patiently waiting. Thanks in advance.
Does the board come with Dugan Style Auto Mixing on all input channels ?
Hello, is it possible to view and control all 24 channel strips at the same time ? not just 12 at a time? Thank you in advance.
Hi
I am looking this to be used in theather.
How many snapshots I can save and recall?
Can I recall snapshots using midi note commands from example Qlab?
Or can I fire sound cues from Wing using midi notes?
Can I assing soft buttons to recall save snapshots? Does the recall work in away so when I used it to recall next snapshot so I could run the show linearly and not staring the menus and select manually next snapshot?
Can I use sanpshots recall for just channel mutes and not efecting any other parameters faders etc?
Many thanks in advance
At 19:12 you say that all fader layers “could’ be configurable, by an expert. Does that mean that they are,or are not configurable if desired or is this functionality technically iavailable but locked out?
Hello Behringer Team, what a great new console. The wing is as the successor of the X32 a FoH Live Console (function wise).My question is, will there be a Studioversion with just Functions wich are needed in a Studio? Like dedicated Monitoring and Transport section? with a knob on every channel (above every single Fader) for plugin parameters? With mirrored name and number of the particular parameter of the plugin? I know there will be a DAW mode based on the Mackie protocol. But I think if it comes to handling and workflow, there are more things that would be important and useful. Dedicated buttons for marker, undo/redo, plugins, automation, loop, cycle, save, cancel, touch, latch, write, trim , miditrack, audiotrack, busses, Mixer on/off, inserts and so on. Cubase for example gives you in it’s control room section 4 independent sets of monitors. Each of wich can have measurement plugins if needed of a limiter or something else. Beside of that it’s possible to trim the monitors to a equal level to avoid one pair of monitors will not be louder than the other. I absolutely believe that a studio only version would be a great success. Here is why: there are controllers by different manufacturers out there but no one is in the end a really good solution to me and so many others. There are the avid ones who work fine with protools and less good with other daws. There are smaller controllers wich are just too small, too limited, breaking a good workflow and in the end are useless, because customers turn back to working just with the mouse. There are just 2 competitors out there wich would have products in a identical format. There is the S3 wich is far more expensive and works better in protools and there is the even more expensive nucleus from ssl wich also uses the mackie protocol but with a good layout for working in a studio. There is no really useful controller/console in the format of the wing for cubase, ableton, logic, digital performer, reaper or even nuendo. I know there are the larger solution like nuage or s6 and now s4 but these are all way more expensive and in the Pro/High End area. The SD cards wouldn’t be needed in a studio and the StageConn interface is more a live sound thing (very useful by the way). 4 separate main outs is not a studio thing also. But connection wise there is no need to change a lot. It’s more the layout and workflow in a studio. If there is a company who can make this happen and bring it to the world in a stunning price range than its BEHRINGER ! 😉