THIS is Why I Never Run 50/50 Dual Sport Tires! | 701 vs DR on Wet Single Track
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- In hopes of avoiding some rainy weather, Jason, his DR650, my 701 & I headed to the Tigerton OHV park for a single track test. Unfortunately the rain found us anyway, and the DR650s stock tires were NOT up to the task. As it turned out neither were our bikes...
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Riding big heavy bikes off-road IS very physically demanding, for sure. Folks never believed me when I raced MX and told them its one of the most physically demanding sports, period. Folks just assume because its a motorsport, there's not much physicality involved with it; not true! One of the most tired and physically drained I've ever been on a bike, is when I did a Hare Scramble race. Lots of single track like what you're riding on at a race pace and it went on for hours! Keep practicing, Jason!
I agree man very demanding especially takin big ol dr on the trails my 2 stroke used to ride in the younger days
Mx racing is second only to Soccer for the physical damands.
Definitely!!! It's a huge amount of work for both your body and mind!
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Great ride guys. Wet and a specialy rainny days off road a alwasy a chalenge . I have the Michelin Anekee Wild on my KLR and I find them the perfect 50/50 tire.
Thanks! It was fun! I've not tried those, but heard lots of good things!
I hate mud no matter what bike or tire I'm on.
Ha ha yeah it can definitely take you down quick!
😁 That trail was a handful on my CRF300L with fresh knobs in much drier conditions. The other 2 or 3 mile single track still hasn’t been connected, a land use conflict I think, you need to hit the road to access it. It’s more open and flows better than this track but still challenging enough to be fun.
Right??? It's like they don't want you to be able to finish 🤣. I need to get back to the 2 mile track, that big hill scares me on these big bikes though ha ha.
you have a 701 too?? beast dude i have the SuMo. The michelin anakee adventures have held me down in everything including mud (as long as i use momentum to get through the muddy patches)
I find the harder the trail the more memorable and enjoyable. Keep pushing and ride on.
Definitely!
This is a really fun video. The two-way interchange with your two different POVs is very interesting. Good job, guys! You are intrepid!
Thank you!!!
I spooned the Waypoint Adventures onto my 701 yesterday. Couple of small sockets wedged between that stiff sidewall and the rim, forces the tire to stay down in the well, and makes for a rather easy install. Really appreciate how quiet they are on pavement, but done little in the dirt so far. Might become my go-to tires...
Huh, sockets. Great tip!!! Let me know what you think of them after the dirt test!!!
I love riding in the rain. It reminds me of the great times I had as a kid on my 50cc, and the 3 wheelers. These days, having heavy duty tubes and Dsports are a must on my dual sport because I will absolutely air down for maximum traction. But I live in Louisiana, and it’s just what we do here since everywhere you go is like soup mud. So we are kind of forced to learn to ride in mud, and achieving Max traction is just second nature.
Nice! Yeah there's just something cool about it!
Great job on the channel!!
The audio is great! How do you communicate with each other and record the audio to the video at the same time?
I just got home from a fun weekend at tigerton. I took the ktm 890s for a few laps. It was a sloppy muddy mess but still fun
Nice! Laps on the trails I hope, not the single track???
I did a bit of the single track, didn’t take long to get worn out
If it was a bit drier, the video wouldn't have been so fun to watch. lol. I think you both did great. I need to get rid of the Trailwings too.
Thanks! Haha yeah definitely!
I've have very good luck with the shinko 700e tires on my klr,been cought in many rainstorms on less then desirable trails and roads.
Nice! I've never tried those.
@SwankyCatProductions I'm in my 3rd rear, 1st front and very happy with them as a set, the rear can work well with a variety of fronts as I've run 2 different fronts with no issue (just stay away from the mefo explorer front.....it's horrible.)
Nice Country, Nice Bikes! Enjoying the ride
Thank you!
Try some Gaerne boots and you can ride in all the wet you want. Vest quality out there.
Sometimes that dumb slide filter under seat gets knocked over close to intake then it wont breath right causes all sorts throttle issues. Pilot jet is idle and starting, main will stumble about 1/2 3/4 throttle. Also there is a fuel filter in the metal inlet where the hose attaches at the carb.
Very good info, thank you!!!
The only tired I found that ripped on dirt and survived for a decent while on street were
max it desert tires
Huh, I've not heard of those.
On my dr650 when the bikes cold it sometimes feels like the slide on the carb is dragging or something then when it warms up it go's away.
Hmm interesting 🤔
That big heavy Suzuki with slick tires on those wet trails and your buddy is wearing boots. Protect your ankles, my dude.
not just your ankles i raked my shin across my footpeg and tore it to pieces
He's got some now!
Awesome video man. Keep it up!
Thank you!
When a carb bike tips over sometimes they get fuel stuck in the float bowl over flow line. This causes a bit of an air lock that needs to get cleared out so the float bowl can get ambient pressure again. I'm assuming this might have been what Jason experienced with the bike running poorly after dropping the bike. In the KLR world there is a 'T-Mod' to help with this. I think the DR has the second, smaller air filter on that line?
Aaaaahhhhh I'll bet you're right!!!
Nice ridding guys. Haha the first time I rode my new dr stock gearing and trailwings I broke both rear turn signals off on trails lol had to make some adjustments to suit my ridding. I'm wondering if his starting idling issue is jetting the dr way lean stock and looks nice and cool where your riding so most likely super lean.
Thanks! Haha yeah those tires were certainly a challenge. I can't imagine running them and the stock gearing!
The tusk dsports are cheap enough thats there is no real reason not to try them. Tires are a consumable. Theres always miles to try something else.
Definitely!
I wonder what a surron X would do a those single tracks (?)
That would be awesome to try!
The FE501 is a good choice for fairly hard Singletrack. FE701 not so much…
Yoo teh color settings on the final video are off!! not sure where in the pipeline this is but it seems like the sharpening is turned up too high and its blueing out the shaddows and flattening out the light areas of the video too much along with like this almost white halo around the edges of everything
stock trail wings on a DR650..slippery snot mud..noooooooooo BUT dry / moist dirt can do..gravel fire road..can do.. paved roads trail wings are pretty good.. POINT know your tires..Know their limits..your turn SWANK.. 701 for hard single track is to heavy..add mud and bolder rocks, just asking for trouble..aka crashed bike broken parts and worse case cracked cases.. not fun in my books...you know better.. that said ..like your vids ..more please.. good on ya :0)
True, true and true! 😂 Thanks man!!!
To be honest I won’t even run D606 / d sports offroad they still are a huge compromise when it gets tough
What's your tire of choice?
@@SwankyCatProductionsIRC M5b evo huge lugs wears well on the street Big difference over a D606
Front tusk t35
why do people find single track intimidating? my first bike was a stock honda rebel 250 i used to hit single track on that on the stock tires (VERY quickly got a DRZ xD) and i never felt like i was crazy out of my element
What year is that DR? Love the color scheme on it.
2006. I do too!
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Thanks, from the video they sound very clear and not picking up noise from the bike
Before tires, get some boots!
Agreed! And he did!
Those aren't 50/50 tires. They're basically a road tire with grooves.
Tigerton used to be alot better, now your not supposed to have bikes on anything but the single track apparently, and they got rid of the challenge track
No bikes on the main trails??? I haven't heard that? I also didn't realize they got rid of the course, that stinks!
@SwankyCatProductions yeah they put it out on there Facebook page, idk if it's enforced but I'm done riding there if they really took away all that trail access to bikes
I have been puzzled by this channel since the first time I saw it .Strava? Any app that tracks mileage? When was the last time you put in anything significant on a freeway or highway? You know, the dual part of dual sport. Dual is supposed to mean you can have some balance of on and off-road.. and the bike is supposed to be able to carry you and some gear camping, fishing or riding, hundreds if not thousands of miles from where you live. Most tires are a trade off no doubt, but if you have tires w no road manners you end up off road or laying on the road because tire casing, composition, construction and tread pattern, were not effective in traffic, rain or turning while on pavement.. showing a tipped bike on a fire or logging road @90% of the time has little to do w the tires. Often a Harley ridden at the right speed can handle @75% of what middle aged are calling technical and " challenging".. before you pick tires that turn your motorcycle into an on road vibrator, think it through, using an app. Dozens of good free ones available.. turn on when you start and take a look at it when you stop.. you will likely discover that your off road percentage is much much much lower than all the macho feelings that people have.. pick tires accordingly and never for looks
I don't really need an app, I can say with pretty good confidence that I spend about 80% of my time on pavement. Usually twisty back roads at about 60mph. I don't think manufacturers really intend riders to purchase tires based off that calculation, I think it's just the way they advertise their capabilities. Either way, I obviously I don't follow that philosophy. I mount tires that are going to get me through the worst case scenario (like in this video). I've ridden plenty of bikes both on and off road with less aggressive tires and I don't really understand the allure. Unless they're 100% road tires, they all add vibration. Plus, even as powerful as the 701 is, I never feel like the tires hold me back on the road. My chicken strips are pretty thin! That being said, of course riders need to be very aware of their tire's capabilities as well as their own, and ride well within them until they're comfortable and understand where exactly the limits are.
The high pitched giggling is too much.