True facts my guy. Most of these review channels will focus on high-end cars that most people will never own or a focus on a car that's heavily modified it's a good to see this channel. Power steering cars that you can go out and buy for around $30,000
@@Camryn-ju3tp some degree of it should come into play unless you're granny shifting though, no? Blipping the throttle definitely makes a difference in my bmw whether I'm shifting up or down. Granted, I never drove a car with auto rev-matching so I'm speculating.
@@GuerrillaGorilla023 the auto rev match in the FK8 only engages if your down shifting. Also I don’t think there’s really a need to blip the throttle unless like you had said “granny shifting” I might be wrong on the second part, but I do know that the auto rev match system doesn’t help you while your up shifting. Edit: you could rev while upshifting now that I think about it because I’ve used the flat foot shifting technique before and I guess that’s similar to blipping the throttle
It’s sad that Toyota turned the TRD badge into little more than an aesthetic body kit. I love the looks of the Camry TRD, but it really should have a manual option and a slightly upgraded V6 VVTi engine to match Honda's VTEC engine (even if it only gives 5, 10, or 15 extra hp). It’s always good to see the beautiful Honda Civic Type R and Honda Accord 2.0T Sport in Throttle House’s hands.
Well the hp did bump up to 301hp V6. I think it is heavy though. Toyota TRD badge should automatically put a TRD supercharger in standard for that badge.
I love both cars..and look how far the Camry has come to take on a car like the Civic Type R and make it a close race...and the Accord 2.0 is unbelievable, VASTLY underrated car in so many respects.
@@bruhitseric If you're a teenager that's obsessed with the fast and the furious movies, sure. Otherwise it looks retarded. Huge wing, 3 tipped exhaust and fake vents everywhere..
@@kjw763 : That's ok if they sell less type r civic. Make the type r accord a new thing and sell more accords, and make the type r accord available with automatic and manual transmission.
@@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 the type r is essentially a good option for somone who wants something fairly sporty and practical as well. Their trunks are on the same level as compact crossovers
My project car is a 07 Accord. Its a total sleeper. I have the K24 with K20 heads ARP studds a CT engineering super charger, spoon head gasket, and other little touches here and there. The only real give away on it is the brembo brakes and the toyo tires there aren't stenciled but still you can tell. Other than that it looks stock and I kept it quiet as I could exhaust wise. Without reving so you can't hear the super charger whine its hard to tell your stock Mustang is about to get smoked by a mom car.
I have a 2013 camry 4 cyl and honestly all my friends that drive new Hondas, BMW, audi, and it kept up really good. Highway driving and easily kept up. Pick up, not the best
i mean give then accord shares the same motor but is equipped with a 10spd auto, it makes perfect sense that the accord can keep up. And the TRD is a V6 so again, makes sense that they can keep up with a vehicle that's specialty is cornering.
@@phodacbitch at this point, everyone should know the camry is "slow" from 0-60...it manages mid 6 sec, even 7 sec. Even in colder temps, it manages 6.1 -6.2 sec. The 2.0t is the quickest, depending on temps, can manage 5.7 - 6.5 sec....IF you can manage wheel hop on both. FWD is not ideal for BEST 0-60s. that 8 speed on the camry KILLS IT. TRD is no different. All things being equal, the accord is probably .3 - .4 seconds quicker to 60 than the camry.
@@phodacbitch the vast majority of CTR owners get around high 5 sec to low 6, depending on temps. FWD+manual+ 300 HP@3100 lbs = no bueno. CTR is for the TRACK exclusively. Straight line is mediocre...
I just discovered your channel, and I’m hooked. The chemistry/banter between Thomas and James, plus the added “messing about”, is what caused me to subscribe. You guys are having fun, and that’s contagious.
I have a 2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T and that was super close. The fact the Type R is lighter and has 54 hp and 22 TQ more than the accord is all you need to know as to how impressive the Accord 2.0T is. Obviously the engine is vastly underrated and it has a smaller turbo than the Type R which gives quicker torque for around city driving. Meaning if you try to street race a Type R on public road, you will most likely win the race unless it goes on to well over 100mph😂
I mean if you me to be that guy, the Accord and Civic have Turbos so what do you expect to happen when going against a heavier naturally Aspirated V6? If it had been the GR Yaris which is honestly the second Toyota sport car (The Supra being first) under the new toyota head then it'd be more in line for a drag race
@@nstylemotorsportsracing1471 thx your a lad. Live the channel btw. Have you managed to dyno your car since you keep up with m3s im thinking like 350 whp ish
@@8SpeedNate I have and unfortunately the damn video file was corrupted! It made 302 whp and 347 WTQ ! It's mostly the way I'm able to really bang trough the gears so fast and consistently that I'm able to keep up with the cars I do! I will be making a video about the JB4 VS a custom dyno tuned N! also my thoughts on the benefits and draw backs! The car is super strong though.
@@8SpeedNate this is really funny because the last video where I ran a FBO Accord brought alot of drama! I had said the Accord is very fast and is like running an automatic Type r! Alot of people didn't like that . I say they pretty much just confirmed what I was saying about the Accord!
These two guys have great enthusiasm and are entertaining. If they could start using a Dragy or some other way to objectively measure 0--60 and 1/4 mile times that would make this channel amazing.
Man I just got a 2.0t sport this past November and I fucking love the thing. My only issue is the stereo isn’t great and I’ll probably just upgrade it soon. I’m coming from a 2012 g37x and it’s just as quick. The steering and handling aren’t quite as good but the 2.0 sport impresses the hell out of me
I don’t know why everyone rags on the Accord. It consistently outperforms it’s expectations. I own a 1.5 and it’s just a grocery getter, but it’s the best daily driver I have ever owned.
I have a 2018 Accord 1.5T Touring (the only model year they had that engine in the Touring) and it is outstanding, even with the CVT. Got 46,000 miles on it now and it's going strong.
True. Also, look at the body language of these two presenters. They were humiliating other people's impressions of the Accord on multiple occasions. Anyways, Accord has proved what it really is.
Great comparison. No real surprise to anyone, Type R won. That thing is a track weapon that just happens to have four doors and a usable trunk. Funny to think people would cross shop a Type R and a Camry but we did. We wanted something fun to drive, practical and reliable. Before we got our Type R, with money in hand, our short list was the the Hyundai Veloster N, the Honda Civic Type R and the Toyota Camry TRD. The Hyundai with its 100,000 mile warranty was not available in the color we wanted and the Camry was a little too big for our garage AND it did not come in a manual. Not having the Camry TRD with a manual option is a big missed opportunity for Toyota. Sure you might loose some seconds in a drag race but for driving enthusiasts it is also about the thrill of the drive and rowing your own gears give you that. We were able to find a new Type R at MSRP within our hemisphere and snatched it up. Oh well, turns out we ended up with the fastest car and the most fun car to drive but when you factor in the savings by a few thousand with the other cars, that choice is not always so clear cut in the beginning. Again, well done.
Yeah Verses old automatic but the matte of facts is that manual are going away because automatic transmission have gotten so quick that even a professional race car drive wouldn’t be able to row thru the gears quick enough as today’s dual clutch autos
@@Eric-qx7fg I was a little weary of that all wheel drive system. I don't live in a place where I need it and I did not know how reliable they were. How is the reliability of a Subaru WRX STI? I absolutely love the S209 even though the price is a little up there.
We all knew who would win. But it still surprises me how slept on V6 Camry’s are! Think what you want... they’re not slow! I happen to own one, it’s an absolute beast.
Totally agree I have a 2023 trd turned a 13.911 at 100.67mph with a reaction time of 0.011 Totally stock except I took out the spare tire lol a family car that u have to wear a helmet for when you go to the track lol anything under 14 seconds and u need a helmet. I would love to race a hell cat with no traction control on my car and the hell cat and she who wins on the back roads by my house the cat would be in a trees thr trd handles like it's on rails
I really didn't expect my TRD to do that well against a Type R. I thought it would be left a mile behind. This was really fun though! For my money I still have to pick the TRD though. Costs less and far more comfy for my trips from Ohio to Florida.
@@lefthanded5473 what are those many cars that are faster for cheaper? Comparing brand new to brand new . Only car in its segment that is faster is the Golf R. And that starts at 45k .
It would be very nice if you can give us time you do on the 1/4 miles (400 m) race to figure stength between all the car you race. Thanks for the video.
They already explained on the last video, that they do not time the races. Why you ask? Because they are on an airstrip and not a prepped drag strip, times are irrelevant. And they are correct.
@@gobinduppal4429 I didn't know that they have already answer those fact, thanks for telling me. I understand why they do that way but i still think it would be interesting just for knowing
Agreed here. I'm sure they would get heat for the times not being the same as the "C&D, MotorTrend, etc." But with a disclaimer, it would be great to have comparisons across the board like they do for the lap times.
@@dabarou its really not a bad idea! But I also completely understand their point of view. It would be interesting to know what street 1/4 mile times would be. But then again, you almost never race a full 1/4 mile from stop light to stop light. More like 1/8th mile times.
@@mez6256 yes, the auto correct will help 😁 btw you are right the old 2nd gen is350 is faster and it will be a good race against type r at drag and track race
It would be close with just a tune. With civic type r turbo upgrade, e85 kit, upgraded downpipe, intercooler and intake it can run a 12.4. So for about $5k in parts + labor you can have a mid to low 12 second accord.
Congrats on a million, fellas. Puts a smile on my face knowing these videos are enjoyed by that many people as much as they’re enjoyed by me. Well-deserved, here’s to the next million and beyond.
Because its a more reliable transmission than Honda or any other brand. Toyota stays with what works and doesn't come out with a crap ton of new things until they've done extensive testing.
@@floridaman8500 I understand that. However, there has to be a balance between reliability and fun. Just cause something is reliable doesn't mean it has to suck to use.
@@G.Bfit.93 if it was the year 2000 then yes. But its 2021 and the line between practicality and fun have long been blurred. There are tons of cars that shouldn't be fun to drive that are.
Raced a TRD in my gti and I gotta say I was not expecting him to pull that hard! Golf is stage 1 though so I did end up walking past him. Still a quick little sedan for the money!
"I have an accord" "You're an accountant" Damn these two calling us all out...Just because we want a quick but not so flashy and practical daily driver.
same engine as the Type R, just different turbo. You could do a Type R turbo swap in an Accord. Or just tune the Accord 2.0t and gain an extra 40hp or so
"Whats in that thing" "Oh I don't know, but it's got some" ... "But you had an ok launch" "Yea my launch was ok" "That was really close" "Really close" Grade A commentary boys
The Type-R is a wonderful car, very quick and a blast to drive. But since I see on a daily basis how much care has to go into them I'll go with a last gen SI.
I have a tuned 6spd 2.0 accord and this video has given me a ton of confidence against a Type R. Love the content! These are the races normal guys want
That BMW Supra is the perfect race for that Type R. Unless you put a Lotus Supercharger on the Camry and LSD Then mommy's grocery car would be extraordinary
I own a 2018 fk8 type R and just bought the 2021 Honda Accord 2.0T touring for my wife. I can attest that 10 speed transmission makes the Accord surprisingly fast! Once they both get into curves on the road the Type R will leave the Accord in the dust.
I'd love to see how CTR does against the TRD on track times with curves. Drag races are OK but CTR is not just about drag; much of the engineering went into how much it eats the curves.
The Accord is an incredibly underrated sleeper. Total Dad Car. I'd love to see Honda give it the V6 twin-scroll turbo from the TLX Type S. That would be a Dad Car with Old Man Strength.
This video focused 100% on straight-line acceleration. However, what sets the Civic Type R apart from other cars is its handling. The Accord does handle quite well for a family sedan. But the Civic Type R is in a whole different league, when it comes to handling. If these same cars were to race around a race track, the Civic Type R would win. It would not even be close. The Civic Type R is closer to Ferrari level of handling than it is compared to the cars in this video. However good you think the Civic Type R can take turns at speed, you are mistaken. It is better than whatever you think it can do. Most people love to focus on straight-line acceleration -- including me. But I also love a car that can do 1+ Gs around a turn, and that is where the Civic Type R shines. The Civic Type R is an all-around race car, with none of the "money pit" problems associated with other sport's cars. In other words, the Civic Type R is super reliable, and a blast to drive. That is an almost impossible marriage. And it even gets good gas mileage. If only the Civic Type R did not look like a monstrosity aimed at the children's market, I would consider purchasing one. And if Honda married it to their 10-speed automatic transmission, it would take the car to new heights. Cheers!
@@nickmotsarsky4382 Honda is stubborn with the Civic Type R looks. If they made it look sporty... If they made it look as good as it drives... I suspect that sales would increase quite a bit. But they are stubborn. Right now, their customer base is limited to just those that crave a great handling, reliable car, and can tolerate its looks (as well as a handful of people that probably like the way it looks -- some people like ugly). And if they offered the Civic Type R with the same 10-speed automatic transmission in the Accord, they would increase sales, further, especially with all of the press they would get on how much faster the car can launch, as well as faster 0-60 and faster ¼-mile times. I purchased the Accord. I would have preferred the additional performance of the Civic Type R. But I just could not get past its looks.
@@stilmotionpicture No, I just don't want to drive around in a clown car. I'm not 16 years old. Nor can you max out its handling on the public street, so it doesn't matter. I have a crossover that smashes the Type R in performance, anyway..
The Camry TRD is still the better car overall. I've one car with a turbo and will never own one again. I remember the mechanic telling it was beginning to go out and would cost $3,000 to replace. I'll take naturally aspirated over turbo any day and twice on Sunday!
You can always modify the TRD to be faster with D3 performance chip, Weapon R headers, cold intake and turbo through D3 Performance for around 7 grand. Stock its not slow but I bought mine due to rarity and upgraded it immediately to be fast
@@ogi-9346 we can agree to disagree but Honda will have its plus and minuses as with Toyota products. All I'm saying is that ANY car can be modified to be fast if you're willing to spend 7 grand or more for performance upgrades. I've seen Honda Civics smoke stock Lamborghinis but again they were heavily modified to do so. Nothing wrong with the Type R but waiting on Toyota to either bring the Supra Manual GR or their new Camry GR super charged to the plate
@@CaliAmg lol the type r isn't not even sport car dude.. And I don't have a car I have a honda CBR-1000 cc if you want yo give a test against the supra lol
The accord had such a great reliability record I wonder how the turbos will hold up after 100k 150k 200k 250k. Seems a camry v6 or 4cyl would be a better loooong mileage car. Any ideas anybody?
Honda's delay valving makes it hard to quickly shift any of their manual transmissions. I wonder if it is still possible to back date the clutch master/slave cylinders to pre-8th gen parts that did not have that valving. If not, the aftermarket will eventually fix that
@@djs18 I sure hope so. Its a basic camry with an exhaust and some body kit. Its literally a camry. Yet the Civic R barely beats in a straightaway which is what 99.9% of Type R buyers are doing. Thats why the STI will always be superior to both of them. AWD so it can actually function in snow and its faster.
@@TheAlphapuck5280 If you think the civic type R owners buy this vehicle for a straight line speed, you’re out of your goddamn mind. The car is a track assassin and if it’s used for any other purpose, it should just be returned to the place where it was purchased. Honda never created this car for the dragstrip and Honda never claimed it was a drag car. Only teenagers, fools, and childish adults think it’s cute to dragstrip a type r. The car is just not designed for it.
I still like the V6 TRD Camry. The dealer won't price gouge like on the top model Honda. The Toyota will have less problems and last longer since it doesn't have a turbo. It would be nice if the Camry had a Limited slip differential available. The Honda will probably retain it resale value better.
The type r is quick BUT takes ages to kick in. I want speed at the start of the race not at the end. The accord was quick BUT ITS A ACCORD! Didn't know accord's go that quick. So I'm sticking with the TRD, Mr dependable LOL
Honda limits the Launch rpm, limits power in 1st and 2nd - full power in 3rd gear You can change this with a simple tune and gain 80hp 80tq at the same time lol The beauty of a modern direct injection turbo car - easy power
I love the fact that you guys test drive and drag race cars that more people can practically afford and would love to compare! Kudos to you guys!
True facts my guy. Most of these review channels will focus on high-end cars that most people will never own or a focus on a car that's heavily modified it's a good to see this channel. Power steering cars that you can go out and buy for around $30,000
@DC Williams you can buy like 3 year old mint bmw if you really wanted for 30k under (235i )
@@Ps3xSNiPeR yeah but that isn't really reliable and there isn't really an affordable support system for when it breaks down.
@@Ps3xSNiPeR BMWs also decrease in value rather quickly compared to a Honda or toyota
Here in my country a Civic Type R cost 120k
Ill say this, you cant go wrong with a Toyota or Honda. So if you pick one, you always win.
Expect your wallet lol
Theyre both roughly the same cost.
Toyotas better
@@Justadudeman22 right
Yeah
Honda should come out with a ACCORD TYPE-R !
Good idea
the should make a sport CR-V ELITE with the sport package
Lol, I think they did it for the civic because all you can get for any civic is a inline 4 where you can get a v6 or a 2.0 turbo on the accord.
Add the Acura TLX Aspec to the mix!
They don’t make accord hatchbacks, and the whole point of the type r is to be a hot hatch
James: “oh this thing shifts quick”
Me: “James it’s a manual no need to compliment yourself”
auto rev-matching though
@@GuerrillaGorilla023 rev matching doesn’t affect up shifting...
@@Camryn-ju3tp some degree of it should come into play unless you're granny shifting though, no? Blipping the throttle definitely makes a difference in my bmw whether I'm shifting up or down. Granted, I never drove a car with auto rev-matching so I'm speculating.
@@GuerrillaGorilla023 the auto rev match in the FK8 only engages if your down shifting. Also I don’t think there’s really a need to blip the throttle unless like you had said “granny shifting” I might be wrong on the second part, but I do know that the auto rev match system doesn’t help you while your up shifting.
Edit: you could rev while upshifting now that I think about it because I’ve used the flat foot shifting technique before and I guess that’s similar to blipping the throttle
I mean the throws are different on different cars. People install short shifters all the time.
The surprise is the race we all wanted, but not the one we deserved
Should have bring the manual Accord..then maybe he could have won??? That Camry is weak from the get go..
@@tousshong9438 manual would've gotten slaughtered
It’s sad that Toyota turned the TRD badge into little more than an aesthetic body kit. I love the looks of the Camry TRD, but it really should have a manual option and a slightly upgraded V6 VVTi engine to match Honda's VTEC engine (even if it only gives 5, 10, or 15 extra hp).
It’s always good to see the beautiful Honda Civic Type R and Honda Accord 2.0T Sport in Throttle House’s hands.
Toyota is too lazy to sit down and develop
The TRD camry actually has Track tuned Suspention. But I 100% agree with you
I remeber when the toyota aurion from Australia, the TRD version had a supercharger fir the 2gr-fe v6 engine.
VVTL-i maybe?
Well the hp did bump up to 301hp V6. I think it is heavy though. Toyota TRD badge should automatically put a TRD supercharger in standard for that badge.
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I love both cars..and look how far the Camry has come to take on a car like the Civic Type R and make it a close race...and the Accord 2.0 is unbelievable, VASTLY underrated car in so many respects.
I was wondering why these TRD Camry's are always trying to race my Type R
They're probably just laughing at you for driving such a hideous Civic.
Gunpowder must’ve rotted your brain
@@pixelxl7194 looks good bro c'mon
@@bruhitseric If you're a teenager that's obsessed with the fast and the furious movies, sure. Otherwise it looks retarded. Huge wing, 3 tipped exhaust and fake vents everywhere..
@@pixelxl7194 nah I've never seen a fast and furious movie dawg
I think Honda forgot to detune the Accord's engine
That’s gotta be it! Or that 10speed Auto!
They should uptune the accord and downtune the type r. then it's a better race.
@@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 that would only decrease their profit margins and the sales of type r
@@kjw763 : That's ok if they sell less type r civic.
Make the type r accord a new thing and sell more accords, and make the type r accord available with automatic and manual transmission.
@@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 the type r is essentially a good option for somone who wants something fairly sporty and practical as well. Their trunks are on the same level as compact crossovers
Absolutely love the exhaust sound of that camry
True I didn't even heard the exhaust to the type R Honda Did you?
@@pdswrld5200 I didn't, but honda are known for skimping on their exhaust, cheap and quiet.
First of all, honsa cars are more expensive than the camry. second of all, the civic has a better sound than camry. @jonathanisenhour7923
"Why is this thing so quick?"
*peeks behind*
👀 "uh oh"
😂 the best part
5:40 for anybody wondering
You can’t watch a Throttle House video and not finish the entire thing. These guys are killing it!
I can
"I have an accord"
"I keep it around, never know when I need them"
As an accord owner that made me laugh so bad
My project car is a 07 Accord. Its a total sleeper. I have the K24 with K20 heads ARP studds a CT engineering super charger, spoon head gasket, and other little touches here and there. The only real give away on it is the brembo brakes and the toyo tires there aren't stenciled but still you can tell. Other than that it looks stock and I kept it quiet as I could exhaust wise. Without reving so you can't hear the super charger whine its hard to tell your stock Mustang is about to get smoked by a mom car.
Me too
@@johnh8546 cool man how much hp if you dynod it
@@slooriginal1727 329whp at 5500 RPM is her best run.
@@johnh8546 make videos of it!!
as expected, the Type R is meant for tracks not drag racing. Crazy how these family sedans can keep up in straights now haha.
I have a 2013 camry 4 cyl and honestly all my friends that drive new Hondas, BMW, audi, and it kept up really good. Highway driving and easily kept up. Pick up, not the best
i mean give then accord shares the same motor but is equipped with a 10spd auto, it makes perfect sense that the accord can keep up. And the TRD is a V6 so again, makes sense that they can keep up with a vehicle that's specialty is cornering.
Anything is possible with family
"fAMIlY sEdAnS"
@@MrBooster999 awww little goblin dover gonna cry
“It’s a family car with a body kit” lol he’s damn right
Facts
Its a little more serious than that I assure you lol
That can beats v8 muscle cars
@@OMG_FK8 not anything current
@@OMG_FK8 On what planet? 😂😂😂😂
Do you hear that Mr. Anderson?
That is the sound of RELIABILITY
Obtuse, but a good one. :-)
2nd gear of the civic says no with grinding noises lol
@@FerasAlhawas right... good try.
@@FerasAlhawas an oil change fixes that
@@FerasAlhawas :( it sucks
"I have an Accord." "You're an Accountant." 🤣
bruh the Accord is something else
or maybe the type R is not a big deal on a straight line? just a thought.........
@@M4B21S88 but the accord smoked the camry though
@@phodacbitch at this point, everyone should know the camry is "slow" from 0-60...it manages mid 6 sec, even 7 sec. Even in colder temps, it manages 6.1 -6.2 sec. The 2.0t is the quickest, depending on temps, can manage 5.7 - 6.5 sec....IF you can manage wheel hop on both.
FWD is not ideal for BEST 0-60s.
that 8 speed on the camry KILLS IT.
TRD is no different.
All things being equal, the accord is probably .3 - .4 seconds quicker to 60 than the camry.
@@phodacbitch the vast majority of CTR owners get around high 5 sec to low 6, depending on temps. FWD+manual+ 300 HP@3100 lbs = no bueno.
CTR is for the TRACK exclusively. Straight line is mediocre...
@@phodacbitch But the Camry smokes the accord in looks lmao, the accord looks fucking squished lmaooo
I just discovered your channel, and I’m hooked. The chemistry/banter between Thomas and James, plus the added “messing about”, is what caused me to subscribe. You guys are having fun, and that’s contagious.
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Thank me now
When I think of TRD: pens, coffee mugs, and polo shirts come to mind.
Lol
I have all those and even at age 58 I chose a Golf R :)
I think of a beastly 4Runner and a guy wearing a flannel but you do you
Holy shit, congrats on the million subs, boys!
Damn! I have a 19 Accord Sport 2.0T. I'm highly impressed by that drag race!
I have a 2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T and that was super close. The fact the Type R is lighter and has 54 hp and 22 TQ more than the accord is all you need to know as to how impressive the Accord 2.0T is. Obviously the engine is vastly underrated and it has a smaller turbo than the Type R which gives quicker torque for around city driving. Meaning if you try to street race a Type R on public road, you will most likely win the race unless it goes on to well over 100mph😂
The Accord never stood a chance, but it put up a damned good fight. Especially considering the fact that it's a humble family hauler.
Camry is like grampa wearing hip-hop clothes.
Hip-hop clothes ?
To be fair, Flava Flav **IS** 61 years old.
Lmao!
Og bruh!
I mean if you me to be that guy, the Accord and Civic have Turbos so what do you expect to happen when going against a heavier naturally Aspirated V6? If it had been the GR Yaris which is honestly the second Toyota sport car (The Supra being first) under the new toyota head then it'd be more in line for a drag race
Can we all agree that, thestraightpipes and thethrottlehouse are the most underrated car chnnels, these 2 channels are just insanely good💯💯💯
What? Savagegeese get's no love!
@@robertpaulson7826 savagegeese is the best hands down
Straight pipes are eh. They try too hard.
@@jay.fromthebay don't actually know much about cars
@@joshamann5921 me? For sure.
They actually have a good duo personality, I like it!!!
Somehow I knew they'd bring out an Accord & I couldn't be happier!
The first thing i thought was you should have ran it against an accord! You were way ahead of me. Love you guys
Aye funny seeing you here i wanna jb4 my vn but all ima add is the spark plugs and maybe an intake down the line what map should I run?
@@8SpeedNate if you have 93 octane map2 for street driving map3 for racing !
@@nstylemotorsportsracing1471 thx your a lad. Live the channel btw. Have you managed to dyno your car since you keep up with m3s im thinking like 350 whp ish
@@8SpeedNate I have and unfortunately the damn video file was corrupted! It made 302 whp and 347 WTQ ! It's mostly the way I'm able to really bang trough the gears so fast and consistently that I'm able to keep up with the cars I do! I will be making a video about the JB4 VS a custom dyno tuned N! also my thoughts on the benefits and draw backs! The car is super strong though.
@@8SpeedNate this is really funny because the last video where I ran a FBO Accord brought alot of drama! I had said the Accord is very fast and is like running an automatic Type r! Alot of people didn't like that . I say they pretty much just confirmed what I was saying about the Accord!
These two guys have great enthusiasm and are entertaining. If they could start using a Dragy or some other way to objectively measure 0--60 and 1/4 mile times that would make this channel amazing.
Thanks for adding the accord in the mix. I always wanted to see a type r vs the accord 2.0. I own a 2.0 accord sport and I love it
Man I just got a 2.0t sport this past November and I fucking love the thing. My only issue is the stereo isn’t great and I’ll probably just upgrade it soon. I’m coming from a 2012 g37x and it’s just as quick. The steering and handling aren’t quite as good but the 2.0 sport impresses the hell out of me
Both the V6 Camry and the Accord are not available in Europe ;-(
the type r is really good tho
@derhenri2002, ofc. The taxes on big engines are .. big. Who would like to pay a bunch of money for a v6 sedan when you can get a skoda octavia😂
That's gay
Yeah, but you get manuals.
There is no v6 accord
This is truly a great video that answers on many questions without a lot of talking. Fun to watch
I don’t know why everyone rags on the Accord. It consistently outperforms it’s expectations. I own a 1.5 and it’s just a grocery getter, but it’s the best daily driver I have ever owned.
I have a 2018 Accord 1.5T Touring (the only model year they had that engine in the Touring) and it is outstanding, even with the CVT. Got 46,000 miles on it now and it's going strong.
I like accords. Their not bad at all. I have a civic hatchback. I just think the civics look a little sportier
True. Also, look at the body language of these two presenters. They were humiliating other people's impressions of the Accord on multiple occasions. Anyways, Accord has proved what it really is.
Great comparison. No real surprise to anyone, Type R won. That thing is a track weapon that just happens to have four doors and a usable trunk. Funny to think people would cross shop a Type R and a Camry but we did. We wanted something fun to drive, practical and reliable. Before we got our Type R, with money in hand, our short list was the the Hyundai Veloster N, the Honda Civic Type R and the Toyota Camry TRD. The Hyundai with its 100,000 mile warranty was not available in the color we wanted and the Camry was a little too big for our garage AND it did not come in a manual. Not having the Camry TRD with a manual option is a big missed opportunity for Toyota. Sure you might loose some seconds in a drag race but for driving enthusiasts it is also about the thrill of the drive and rowing your own gears give you that. We were able to find a new Type R at MSRP within our hemisphere and snatched it up. Oh well, turns out we ended up with the fastest car and the most fun car to drive but when you factor in the savings by a few thousand with the other cars, that choice is not always so clear cut in the beginning. Again, well done.
Lose seconds? I’ve always been faster with manual transmission.
Yeah Verses old automatic but the matte of facts is that manual are going away because automatic transmission have gotten so quick that even a professional race car drive wouldn’t be able to row thru the gears quick enough as today’s dual clutch autos
Why was the Subaru wrx STI not on that list? It fits the description you’re looking for and the interior is roomy as hell lol.
@@Eric-qx7fg I was a little weary of that all wheel drive system. I don't live in a place where I need it and I did not know how reliable they were. How is the reliability of a Subaru WRX STI? I absolutely love the S209 even though the price is a little up there.
@@judethree4405 You might actually be right with this automatic in the Camry because I hear a lot of power is lost in this torque converter.
"I have an Accord"
"You're an accountant"
I'M ACTUALLY DEAD LMFAO 😂
We all knew who would win. But it still surprises me how slept on V6 Camry’s are! Think what you want... they’re not slow! I happen to own one, it’s an absolute beast.
Totally agree I have a 2023 trd turned a 13.911 at 100.67mph with a reaction time of 0.011 Totally stock except I took out the spare tire lol a family car that u have to wear a helmet for when you go to the track lol anything under 14 seconds and u need a helmet. I would love to race a hell cat with no traction control on my car and the hell cat and she who wins on the back roads by my house the cat would be in a trees thr trd handles like it's on rails
I really didn't expect my TRD to do that well against a Type R. I thought it would be left a mile behind. This was really fun though! For my money I still have to pick the TRD though. Costs less and far more comfy for my trips from Ohio to Florida.
And would look way better if they just deleted that weird rear spoiler
@@Blanderr I guess to each their own that’s respectable I don’t mind it much I’m not sure what Raphael thinks though
@@Blanderr Agreed. It looks stupid on a front wheel drive car
@@huskytotodile i like the rear spoiler, n the whole exterior too compared to the normal one, aka non TRD..
It only looks like it did well because the type r didnt have a good manual driver.
I don’t care how fast it is, all I know is the Type R is the coolest looking car in it’s class.
If youre new to Throttle House they do car reviews, track test and quite a lot of messing aboot
we dont believe you bro!
Very impressed with the Camry, knew it would lose but didn’t expect to see it do so well.
I don’t know if I should be impressed with toyota or ashamed of Honda, maybe a bit of both
@@jaxgreene9937 the type R is way too overpriced for what you get. Many faster cars out there that are cheaper. It should have a DCT or 10SAT option.
@@lefthanded5473 saying it is over priced is debatable but you are right. Everything is overpriced these days lol.
@@lefthanded5473 what are those many cars that are faster for cheaper? Comparing brand new to brand new . Only car in its segment that is faster is the Golf R. And that starts at 45k .
@@MrJjburgess11 RS3
Family sedan with a body kit was the most accurate description of camry TRD and any modded honda accord sport lol
Best car channel on TH-cam?
It would be very nice if you can give us time you do on the 1/4 miles (400 m) race to figure stength between all the car you race. Thanks for the video.
They already explained on the last video, that they do not time the races. Why you ask? Because they are on an airstrip and not a prepped drag strip, times are irrelevant. And they are correct.
@@gobinduppal4429 I didn't know that they have already answer those fact, thanks for telling me.
I understand why they do that way but i still think it would be interesting just for knowing
@@kamahlsangdragon6753 I agree with you bc at the stop light it isn’t a prepped surface and that’s where my drag races will be!
Agreed here. I'm sure they would get heat for the times not being the same as the "C&D, MotorTrend, etc." But with a disclaimer, it would be great to have comparisons across the board like they do for the lap times.
@@dabarou its really not a bad idea! But I also completely understand their point of view. It would be interesting to know what street 1/4 mile times would be. But then again, you almost never race a full 1/4 mile from stop light to stop light. More like 1/8th mile times.
Wow I cant believe how close the accord was 😱
Did better than the Camry too I was shocked
@@nadjiao1832 I'm not shocked.
Toyota's are bad
@@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh fast doesn't mean it's reliable, Toyota maintenance are cheaper
Very respectable performance by the Camry despite the weight differences..
The Accord was so close! Maybe Lexus IS vs TRD Camry would be closer? I love these
The old 350 not the new one
2006-2013 is350 would be nice to see
Ive seen the video from saudi arabia, the is350 wins against the camry v6, it should be the is350 against the type r
@@unfairsanic5089
and the old one is
lighter and faster
I am still learning English
is my writing good?
@@mez6256 yes, the auto correct will help 😁 btw you are right the old 2nd gen is350 is faster and it will be a good race against type r at drag and track race
4:50 is a great depiction of the car scene.
DAMN that accord is fast, I wonder if a simple tune would make it equally as fast.
It would be close with just a tune.
With civic type r turbo upgrade, e85 kit, upgraded downpipe, intercooler and intake it can run a 12.4. So for about $5k in parts + labor you can have a mid to low 12 second accord.
Congrats on a million, fellas. Puts a smile on my face knowing these videos are enjoyed by that many people as much as they’re enjoyed by me. Well-deserved, here’s to the next million and beyond.
The transmission in the TRD holds it back so much.
Because its a more reliable transmission than Honda or any other brand. Toyota stays with what works and doesn't come out with a crap ton of new things until they've done extensive testing.
@@floridaman8500 I understand that. However, there has to be a balance between reliability and fun. Just cause something is reliable doesn't mean it has to suck to use.
It's a Camry. Want fun? Get an 86.
@@G.Bfit.93 if it was the year 2000 then yes. But its 2021 and the line between practicality and fun have long been blurred. There are tons of cars that shouldn't be fun to drive that are.
@@Mistadontplay89 example?
Man, the accord is a beast. Can't wait to see how the k5 gt and sonata n line stacks up
These new accords are supposedly underrated from the factory that being both of these cars with a simple tune get woken up
Raced a TRD in my gti and I gotta say I was not expecting him to pull that hard! Golf is stage 1 though so I did end up walking past him. Still a quick little sedan for the money!
Slowly becoming Carwow
Doing unusual comparision❤
Luv to see you guys in carwow colab
American Carwow oh wait Doug already is
@@yes8032 Throttle House is Canadian. 🇨🇦
@@brianrainey2739 oh 😮 thanks for letting me know 🙏
I feel like carwows intros are getting longer every video. It's really annoying
They can collaborate with Straight pipes which are also Canadians and also duo!
I´d love to a sporty Accord someday. Just a very capable allrounder.
Could be possible with the TLX Type S coming out they might as well just make an Accord Type R lol
They did make an Accord Type R for the Japanese and European markets back in the early 2000s.
@@ultraguy8771 yep
@@DzuhLRenu That would be very cool.
@@ultraguy8771 Uh I didn´t know that.
I’ve got a 2016 accord coupe with Honda’s V6, and I’ve been surprised by how quick that thing is when it gets going!
"I have an accord" "You're an accountant" Damn these two calling us all out...Just because we want a quick but not so flashy and practical daily driver.
CPA driving an Accord here too
Thing is the accord is GORGEOUS... from a Convertible Mustang GT owner
i am so incredibly happy that i own a accord touring 2.0t lmao i did not think it would be that close
Same here! It kind of reinforce the the purchase of the our cars! 🤣🤣
same engine as the Type R, just different turbo. You could do a Type R turbo swap in an Accord. Or just tune the Accord 2.0t and gain an extra 40hp or so
Lmao. It’s okay in a straight line. The type R will DESTROY the accord on a track/corner.
For real craziest thing I saw all day. Fear the accord
@@djs18 i would hope the type r could beat the midsized family sedan on a track....
I am so proud of that Toyota I didn't expect it do that.
Impressive for being about $16.000 less dollars.
Two full size cars keeping up with a Type R is impressive.
The camry and accord are midsize car.
"Whats in that thing"
"Oh I don't know, but it's got some"
...
"But you had an ok launch"
"Yea my launch was ok"
"That was really close"
"Really close"
Grade A commentary boys
The Type-R is a wonderful car, very quick and a blast to drive. But since I see on a daily basis how much care has to go into them I'll go with a last gen SI.
How much? I was debating over getting a type r and si but can’t decide
My coworker got an accord sport touring and puts up some good numbers. He says it's almost as fun as his old prelude he had
I didnt expect that accord🔥
I have a tuned 6spd 2.0 accord and this video has given me a ton of confidence against a Type R. Love the content! These are the races normal guys want
That BMW Supra is the perfect race for that Type R.
Unless you put a Lotus Supercharger on the Camry and LSD
Then mommy's grocery car would be extraordinary
Actually surprised the Toyota was that close, Congratulations on the Million 👍
I knew the CTR was going to win but the Camry TRD was much closer than I thought it'd be!
I own a 2018 fk8 type R and just bought the 2021 Honda Accord 2.0T touring for my wife. I can attest that 10 speed transmission makes the Accord surprisingly fast! Once they both get into curves on the road the Type R will leave the Accord in the dust.
Out of those I still would take the accord.
I'd love to see how CTR does against the TRD on track times with curves. Drag races are OK but CTR is not just about drag; much of the engineering went into how much it eats the curves.
it would mop the TRD on a circuit no doubt
Hot hatches are known for handling lol this would be a dumb race considering the Camry Is a family sedan 😂 regardless if it'd TRD or not
They should make a accord type r lol
Drag race is always enjoyable :)
The trd: a good way to pay a lot for almost nothing...
Lol the regular v6 beat the TRD you're right
No one would ever buy it. It’s 40 grand! 😂😂😂 40 grand I would go find a lightly used rs3...
Same with their trucks
@@Bkzshowtimedagr8 The 'regular' V6 cost more than the TRD
It's the cheapest way to get a v6 Camry
Awesome runs gentlemen enjoyed it thoroughly
Moves smoothly
The Accord is an incredibly underrated sleeper. Total Dad Car. I'd love to see Honda give it the V6 twin-scroll turbo from the TLX Type S. That would be a Dad Car with Old Man Strength.
Yup or even a full blown Type-R engine instead of the detuned one. But yes, since it’s as big as the TLX, why not the Acura’s
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This video is worth watching! More of this, please!
Love these videos. Doing the stuff we'd ll like to do with the cars that are affordable.
This video focused 100% on straight-line acceleration.
However, what sets the Civic Type R apart from other cars is its handling.
The Accord does handle quite well for a family sedan. But the Civic Type R is in a whole different league, when it comes to handling.
If these same cars were to race around a race track, the Civic Type R would win. It would not even be close.
The Civic Type R is closer to Ferrari level of handling than it is compared to the cars in this video. However good you think the Civic Type R can take turns at speed, you are mistaken. It is better than whatever you think it can do.
Most people love to focus on straight-line acceleration -- including me. But I also love a car that can do 1+ Gs around a turn, and that is where the Civic Type R shines.
The Civic Type R is an all-around race car, with none of the "money pit" problems associated with other sport's cars. In other words, the Civic Type R is super reliable, and a blast to drive. That is an almost impossible marriage. And it even gets good gas mileage.
If only the Civic Type R did not look like a monstrosity aimed at the children's market, I would consider purchasing one. And if Honda married it to their 10-speed automatic transmission, it would take the car to new heights.
Cheers!
The Type R is still utterly hideous, so none of that handling really matters, unfortunately.
@@nickmotsarsky4382 Honda is stubborn with the Civic Type R looks.
If they made it look sporty...
If they made it look as good as it drives...
I suspect that sales would increase quite a bit.
But they are stubborn.
Right now, their customer base is limited to just those that crave a great handling, reliable car, and can tolerate its looks (as well as a handful of people that probably like the way it looks -- some people like ugly).
And if they offered the Civic Type R with the same 10-speed automatic transmission in the Accord, they would increase sales, further, especially with all of the press they would get on how much faster the car can launch, as well as faster 0-60 and faster ¼-mile times.
I purchased the Accord. I would have preferred the additional performance of the Civic Type R. But I just could not get past its looks.
@@nickmotsarsky4382 so you're for looks over functions. Damn.. sucks to be you.
@@stilmotionpicture No, I just don't want to drive around in a clown car. I'm not 16 years old. Nor can you max out its handling on the public street, so it doesn't matter. I have a crossover that smashes the Type R in performance, anyway..
@@nickmotsarsky4382 you need to do a lot more research about the Type R. Sorry, but Maybe the Type R is not for you.
The Camry TRD is still the better car overall. I've one car with a turbo and will never own one again. I remember the mechanic telling it was beginning to go out and would cost $3,000 to replace. I'll take naturally aspirated over turbo any day and twice on Sunday!
I just got a civic type r in that same color and man I thought I just sucked at launching but him struggling made me feel better lol
“You’re an accountant”
“You’re dead”
had me rolling lol
I'd rather have the Camry either way.
Honest I'm still surprised by how fast the Camry is for being a Camry lol
I’ve never thought Camry’s were slow... they are the most boring and sloppy car to drive however.
You can always modify the TRD to be faster with D3 performance chip, Weapon R headers, cold intake and turbo through D3 Performance for around 7 grand. Stock its not slow but I bought mine due to rarity and upgraded it immediately to be fast
Type r with just the hondata flash pro and PRL cold air intake will beat it anyways.
@@ogi-9346 super charged or Turbo charged ? Any car can be modified to beat any car. It depends on your wallet Honda dude
@@CaliAmg okay toyota dude
@@ogi-9346 we can agree to disagree but Honda will have its plus and minuses as with Toyota products. All I'm saying is that ANY car can be modified to be fast if you're willing to spend 7 grand or more for performance upgrades. I've seen Honda Civics smoke stock Lamborghinis but again they were heavily modified to do so. Nothing wrong with the Type R but waiting on Toyota to either bring the Supra Manual GR or their new Camry GR super charged to the plate
@@CaliAmg lol the type r isn't not even sport car dude..
And I don't have a car I have a honda CBR-1000 cc if you want yo give a test against the supra lol
4:48 “I have an accord.”
“You’re an accountant.” 🗿🗿🗿
I had to raise to volume all the way up to hear the civic lmao
The accord had such a great reliability record I wonder how the turbos will hold up after 100k 150k 200k 250k. Seems a camry v6 or 4cyl would be a better loooong mileage car. Any ideas anybody?
I remember hearing about the 1.5 turbo oil dilution problems. You can never go wrong with a naturally aspirated Toyota engine.
@@silverrain99205 Toyota is moving to turbo chargers look at the tundra. The k20c1 isn’t the 1.5 and it’s reliable
“But we have been told it’s a sports car....by people who are crazy” lol true
Honda's delay valving makes it hard to quickly shift any of their manual transmissions. I wonder if it is still possible to back date the clutch master/slave cylinders to pre-8th gen parts that did not have that valving. If not, the aftermarket will eventually fix that
You probably can on the 10th gen! I own a 9th gen si and people do it all the time
There ain't no way that camry TRD is as fast on track as a type R.
well, atleast it loses in a straight line like expected...
The Camry TRD would get absolutely destroyed by the civic on a track. There wouldn’t be a race.
@@djs18 I sure hope so. Its a basic camry with an exhaust and some body kit. Its literally a camry. Yet the Civic R barely beats in a straightaway which is what 99.9% of Type R buyers are doing. Thats why the STI will always be superior to both of them. AWD so it can actually function in snow and its faster.
@@TheAlphapuck5280 that’s if the sti isn’t in the shop or garage getting repaired. Lots of issues with the Subaru. Not so much with Toyota’s.
@@TheAlphapuck5280 If you think the civic type R owners buy this vehicle for a straight line speed, you’re out of your goddamn mind. The car is a track assassin and if it’s used for any other purpose, it should just be returned to the place where it was purchased. Honda never created this car for the dragstrip and Honda never claimed it was a drag car. Only teenagers, fools, and childish adults think it’s cute to dragstrip a type r. The car is just not designed for it.
How about a race between the Accord 2.0T and the Kia Stinger 2.5 GT Line. Should be a great race!
Thomas: Why is this think so quick?
*Instant Regret*
Thomas again : OH no Oh NO
Ok not that anybody cares but I’m at college rn without my car so when I saw the Accord I got really homesick for my Accord at home😭😭😭
As a fellow Austin, I care. Lol
I care as well as I drive a 2015 exl honda accord and I'm a fellow Austin
You guys should display 0-60 and quarter mile times that companies claim the cars will get and then your results as well.
And congrats on 1 mil!
I feel like sleepin' on an Accord is like people sleepin' on Vic's back in the day.
I still like the V6 TRD Camry. The dealer won't price gouge like on the top model Honda. The Toyota will have less problems and last longer since it doesn't have a turbo. It would be nice if the Camry had a Limited slip differential available. The Honda will probably retain it resale value better.
lmao I know a toyota salesman, trust me they will rip you off and then laugh about it in the backroom, just as any other brand will
Actually Honda does last longer
@@lordgriselbrand4600 I'm not a car salesman. Nice try.
@@kazeoner183So, you just pulled an assumption out of thin air with no data or reasoning. Ok
The type r is quick BUT takes ages to kick in. I want speed at the start of the race not at the end. The accord was quick BUT ITS A ACCORD! Didn't know accord's go that quick. So I'm sticking with the TRD, Mr dependable LOL
Honda limits the Launch rpm, limits power in 1st and 2nd - full power in 3rd gear
You can change this with a simple tune and gain 80hp 80tq at the same time lol
The beauty of a modern direct injection turbo car - easy power
Surprised how close the runs were says a lot about the Camry