Testing Refugium Part II: What really happened and what's next? | BRStv Investigates

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  • @tonysnell1286
    @tonysnell1286 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Yo. This is the best thing to happen to reefing. The ability to use equipment like brs has at its disposal to better benifit the consumer is simply amazing! The testing is endless. Good job BRS. I eagerly await future investigations!

  • @karlpalm8860
    @karlpalm8860 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have to say that your methodology and reporting are outstanding!
    I hold two college degrees in life and health sciences. To see an experiment of this level performed for hobbyist benefit is very impressive. I hope you are publishing and perhaps even have an association with a department at a university.
    Great work! The entire reef/salt community should really appreciate all the time, effort and resources that you guys are putting into this kind of a production. As someone who has done research at a collegiate level I can tell you that this is not easy. Please keep up the outstanding work.

  • @biturboi6
    @biturboi6 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    You guys are killing it with your content lately. Keep it up!

  • @PrestigeReef
    @PrestigeReef 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    These results far exceeded my expectations, I always thought it would work to some extent but never that much. Great work guys you are really changing how we view our tanks. I love these test videos :) x

    • @frankcolumbo4559
      @frankcolumbo4559 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look forward to these guys videos as much as yours! World traveler Miss Saltwater - welcome home!

  • @jyoung11
    @jyoung11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yet another reason why BRS is my go-to dry goods store! Well done guys

  • @acesofair519
    @acesofair519 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know I'm late but I find it amazing and would like to say thank you for all the time, money, and effort you put towards our hobby!

  • @rppvt
    @rppvt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Regardless of what my wife thinks, this is ridiculously interesting and informative. Props to the entire BRS crew.

  • @asingh7516
    @asingh7516 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    brs tv is the most important blessing to reef hobby. You guys don't try to sell but give our the right information and let people know what they want (without pushing any products)

  • @douglassmith4403
    @douglassmith4403 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    All I have to say is wow. BRStv this was an awesome video. I have a lot of questions on a refugium being useful except for a pod farm but this is very compelling information. Also the light testing is very informative. I cannot afford a kessil for a fuge but I now know I need a better light for my fuge. Thank you so much! Made my first purchase from BRS this week too. You earned my business guys!

  • @anthonyfairthorne380
    @anthonyfairthorne380 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Fantastic video and cant wait to see the outcome from this test - hurry up 3 month!!!

  • @Fordemups
    @Fordemups 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best reeling vids by miles. Please don't ever stop 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @tbird267
    @tbird267 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm sure it's been said but good on you Ryan for improving the quality of your videos over the years and your presentation skills. Its crazy to see the difference from then to now

    • @hammerheadreefs81
      @hammerheadreefs81 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huge difference. BRS puts out some of my favorite content

  • @zachtos2
    @zachtos2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Scientific process in action, very nice. So much better than the frustration of forums.

    • @tompage8674
      @tompage8674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      TBH, its not really necessary in Freshwater. So much less equipment and tech required to keep water quality in check.

  • @daycm1977
    @daycm1977 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video keep them coming. Special thanks to the BRS team for taking the time and effort to produce these videos. I look forward to every video that is released.

  • @LucidComposureUk
    @LucidComposureUk 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh how you made my week with this video! What a brilliantly executed test! BRS are putting the science to this hobby that is really going to evolve it and change it forever!

  • @urbanrat84
    @urbanrat84 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliant test guys - you've convinced me to include the chaeto I have on hand in my new nano now, I was going to leave it out

  • @slayertx
    @slayertx 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU! This is the best video / series ever! We needed someone to do this that had the resources to pull it off in a professional manor. I can't wait to see the result but the data already provided is going to be so helpful to many! Keep up the good work!

  • @martijnvanbeek4387
    @martijnvanbeek4387 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb testing being made public, guys!

  • @TheNeers71
    @TheNeers71 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad BRStv is here when I finally get into salt water. Very helpful in setting up my RO as well. Thank you so much for the incredible content!

  • @patrickhudson109
    @patrickhudson109 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The attempt to make this as scientific as possible is much appreciated. This hobby needs much more of this kind of testing to improve it's chances of success. The results will surely shed light on the mysteries of what's happening in our real oceans and could impact the health of our planet. So there ya go. The world needs you to get this right! No pressure.

  • @hynos323
    @hynos323 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRS, thank you so much for putting in so much time and effort in your videos. I really enjoy them and it has made my tanks really thrive.

  • @Caramellofellow
    @Caramellofellow 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys. Amazing episode. You have such a great formula for producing these videos. Keep up the good work! Many thanks for uploading.

  • @corbinsexcellentadventures14
    @corbinsexcellentadventures14 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for dedicating the resources that you do to these experiments. Your content is amazing and the scientific approach that you guys take really enhances the quality of the experiments. I think hands down, you guys are the best source of unbiased information in the hobby right now.

  • @tomclark7440
    @tomclark7440 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job! I believe your having major impact on the hobby, not just giving us more knowledge on how to maintain our tanks but your saving marine life in the process!

  • @peterderrick5211
    @peterderrick5211 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video, love these tests as they confirm, or otherwise, the advice and comments you find all over the hobby.I was really suprised at the results and am loving the phase 2 test parameters...please keep,going!!

  • @bigbowlowrong4694
    @bigbowlowrong4694 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man I wish there was a freshwater equivalent of this channel. To be honest it amazes me there isn't one.

  • @preauxtip
    @preauxtip 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice methodology. I like that you started with as few variables as possible before scaling up to more real world tests. I'd love to see more tests on common reef setups later on. Skimmers, mechanical filtration, water change schedules, deep sand beds, turf scrubbers, and other such things.

  • @jcfaur77
    @jcfaur77 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video. can't wait for phase two.

  • @beej1254
    @beej1254 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think phase 2 should still include a par38 LED bulb. These are extremely popular in the hobby and test results would greatly benefit many.

  • @johngayle2772
    @johngayle2772 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ryan for doing this study really informative and shows definitively any type of fuge is highly beneficial

  • @kAi-ub8hi
    @kAi-ub8hi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    cant wait for the result updates. informative videos,keep it up!

  • @edson.jerez1982
    @edson.jerez1982 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for the time and effort you are putting into it!

  • @danx8955
    @danx8955 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRS, this is awesome. Keep up the good work!

  • @Totalballa41
    @Totalballa41 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this!! I really enjoy the attention to detail and control over the experiment!

  • @BaconSniffer578
    @BaconSniffer578 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video guys! Your best yet I'd say

  • @joshuaducharme5170
    @joshuaducharme5170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are a blessing from the reef Gods!

  • @crushingsnakes1972
    @crushingsnakes1972 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video guys!! I was looking forward to this one and the next one.

  • @wokest118
    @wokest118 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    We appreciate the awesome content! Love shopping at BRS!

  • @JordanCataldo65
    @JordanCataldo65 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So far, its looking like spending the extra money plumbing a fuge into my new setup is gonna pay off! looking forward to more videos on the subject!

  • @ryanbilalis247
    @ryanbilalis247 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant guys! I currently don't have a refugium, and have battled for years with high nitrate and phosphate. Very keen to see the results!

  • @anuar6605
    @anuar6605 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks ryan, can't wait for the results

  • @duckslinger999
    @duckslinger999 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You guys need to pay Ryan more, he can't even afford a full pair of jeans. Poor guy. Great vid.

  • @VascoFL
    @VascoFL 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely great and valuable video. You obviously put an enormous amount of time into your channel. The result is topnotch content for us reefers. Thank you BRSTV!

  • @kscott8464
    @kscott8464 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really good stuff-Please keep going with these.

  • @firsttimereefertv1588
    @firsttimereefertv1588 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coming from a First time reefer your content for me is priceless! Thank you for all your info and hard work to make things much easier for me!! 👏👏👏

  • @arturreef8117
    @arturreef8117 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    You guys should compare a fuge vs algae scrubber, with the same lights.

    • @evaneversole8546
      @evaneversole8546 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Arthur Asatrjan algae reactor vs scrubber

    • @arturreef8117
      @arturreef8117 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BulkReefSupplyCom yessssssss

    • @SantaMonicaFiltration
      @SantaMonicaFiltration 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a tough one. Scrubbers do normally kill chaeto and other macros, but trying to use the same light for both, in a test, would really weaken a scrubber because a scrubber's advantage is more in the other design components, and their efficiency would be reduced in order to accommodate the fuge light. That's the point of a scrubber: refine the area, attachment, flow, light, etc to maximize photosynthesis (filtering). And upflow scrubbers refine further by using bubbles to deliver CO2 at zero-distance to the algae cells. But this also might be compromised by trying to use a fuge light.

    • @ohadzic6377
      @ohadzic6377 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love what you guys are doing. I had ats and in my opinion it was superior to any protein skimmer. Pods loved it too

    • @sterbanorris9421
      @sterbanorris9421 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes definitely I must know which is more efficient b4 I start another tank

  • @sunnygoold9449
    @sunnygoold9449 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this is my 4th time watching this and in relation to the latest BRS/WWC Hybrid series looking back on this is SUPER interesting.
    I think now that there seems consenus that zero phosphates and nitrates are not a good thing reefers may more seriously consider the cheaper lights. One important thing to note though is the difference in pH - with the Kessil generating a seriously higher pH. Going back to BRS/WWC hybrid with heavy in / heavy out apparently leading to benefits, I think the benefits or a good fuge light are now much more relevant as it seems you get the benefits of both allowing higher nutrient import as well as higher pH at night.
    This video is amazing and should be mandatory for any reefer considering a fuge (or reactor).
    It's also the first time I noticed Ryan's jeans ;)

  • @TheDashCave
    @TheDashCave 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are a huge resource to the community. :bow:

  • @vector824
    @vector824 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I'd almost call it fluffy" sounds like a new t-shirt to me. Keep up these awesome videos!

  • @LouieVelasquez
    @LouieVelasquez 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding test and video series. I've been running the H350 after switching from the shop light setup and can attest to the absolute depletion of Nitrate in my system (well as far as the Red Sea Pro Nitrate test shows). I just pruned a sizable ball of Chaeto from the fuge this morning and noticed it has the same light green, almost Easter grass looking color and texture. Now I'm trying to raise my Nitrates in the system which is a new problem to solve. Go figure... Keep the videos coming, I appreciate the science/chemistry aspect of reef keeping and your videos make Fridays that much more fun.

  • @Cliffepoos
    @Cliffepoos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Confirms what I thought. Good to know for certain though. Looking forward to the next stage and await the results with interest.

  • @anthonymoreno894
    @anthonymoreno894 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This series is my favorite.

  • @fuffoon
    @fuffoon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an incredibly good piece of aquarium science.

  • @PaintflowException
    @PaintflowException 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the content! keep up the great work! I can't wait to see the results! I'm currently using this in my fuge and it seems to be performing how I would expect.

  • @gbj6581
    @gbj6581 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video thank you. Stellar job as usual! This topic is really helpful as sometimes we implement these things and not know their value.

  • @Bluenosegrows
    @Bluenosegrows 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    did the cheato use any reef building elements? cal/mag ect ? Great Job BRS crew .. thanks for doing this

  • @ussj4brolli
    @ussj4brolli 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You and your team are fantastic!

  • @mrocheleau
    @mrocheleau 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    can't wait for phase 2 awsome Ryan really helpful for a beginner

  • @MrJaman0083
    @MrJaman0083 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That “$20” 19 watt led is putting up some good numbers, seems highly under rated.

  • @mbaker1295
    @mbaker1295 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome results, I am glad my expectations of chaeto were ultimately what phase one seemed to provide. natural filtration is by far my favorite, mother nature does it best

  • @ShilpanGPatel
    @ShilpanGPatel 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This explains why my GFO hasn't needed to be changed for 8 months....it must've run out the the chaeto took over! Awesome video guys

  • @FenderSchonJPX
    @FenderSchonJPX 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ughhhhhh. THREE MONTHS!!! Killing me
    Can't wait to see. Phase one was incredibly impressive this next one will be a solid real world test.

  • @Thehobbyeast
    @Thehobbyeast 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ryan seriously a good video which is much more advance.

  • @wishdrftr
    @wishdrftr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok seriously though, I could watch Ryan all day. Not that I dislike RT but Ryan's personality has developed so much along the years. Fav Channel BRS is right now... and I don't even have a tank yet lol
    New nano videos!

  • @MySimpleReef
    @MySimpleReef 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    guys nice work you guys are the best no question!!!

  • @Kanoa440
    @Kanoa440 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm totally geeking out on your test! I love it! You guys are like Myth Busters but only useful. I would love to see a test comparing a refugium, algae scrubber, mangroves, and maybe biopellets.

  • @tsurro8086
    @tsurro8086 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, great stuff to know, I thought so but now it's certain!!

  • @reefholic6110
    @reefholic6110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome

  • @kylerogers9046
    @kylerogers9046 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    really looking forward to the results of the new test!

  • @trevortheengineer2920
    @trevortheengineer2920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live for this stuff.

  • @ZokomoTV
    @ZokomoTV 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those are some compelling results! Now I need to find a high PUR LED strip for my biocube's chamber 2 refugium

  • @michaellawton6043
    @michaellawton6043 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video. I can tell you that I run a fuge in my 70 gal reef tank with miracle mud and chaeto and I do not use my skimmer and my phosphates are 0.00 with Hanna and nitrates are around 10ppm. I have a small clean up crew 3 turbo snails and 2 shrimp. 10 fish and 30+ corals water is super clear. I am a believer in the fuge and love the effectiveness of it. I also use gfo/carbon reactor which helps.
    You guys are on the right path with this FAQ. My mandarins feast on the pods that are produced in the fuge as well. I use a strong return pump, which I think is a contributing factor to the success.
    Thanks for these videos. They are awesome!

  • @fermentedhiker
    @fermentedhiker 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It would be interesting to have run the test with a Par38 LED that was specific for plant growth(just red and blue LEDS) to see if the increased PUR is enough to make a difference.

    • @Val_Halla777
      @Val_Halla777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. It’s a bit suspect that they didn’t use a luxbird Par38 grow light instead.

  • @chuckschillingvideos
    @chuckschillingvideos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting results, and in a cost-is-no-object test, yes the Kessil H380 is the clear choice; however, few of us really get to entertain the cost-is-no-object scenario and must make difficult choices as to the best way to spend our reefkeeping hobby dollars. For me, and I suspect many others, the answer does not lie in $300 fuge grow lights.

  • @MARINETV
    @MARINETV 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you posted the results of the test with livestock if yes please share link

  • @luisnajera1791
    @luisnajera1791 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    woow amazing !!! love these kind of videos

  • @Amphiron
    @Amphiron 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! now I need to find some chaeto.

  • @salohcind3349
    @salohcind3349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good idea for a video. We should find out if chaetomorpha can correct different N:P ratios.

  • @gibaniba
    @gibaniba 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is reef educational gold

  • @Steve-lu1my
    @Steve-lu1my 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the progression of your testing methods. If you had more replicates, it would definitely be worth publishing in a peer review journal.

  • @siwiggiddiful
    @siwiggiddiful 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your videos!

  • @battyjoe
    @battyjoe 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job Ryan, I love the videos and all my reefing knowledge is built on the back of your great series. I'm looking forward to seeing the long term results of this. Im intending to move to a Red Sea peninsula 650 in a few months from a 350, and have a decent fuge in it with the Kessil if it works well with your results.

  • @EdwinCaucu
    @EdwinCaucu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this review. Would you be able to provide same review with UFO lights? Thanks!

  • @antoniomarroquin3649
    @antoniomarroquin3649 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All this info ... totally Impressive

  • @michaelhack5951
    @michaelhack5951 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    some brilliant content coming from you guys at the moment.
    would love to see how a cheap diy chaeto reactor would perform as well, what would the expectation be for this?

  • @Steve-lu1my
    @Steve-lu1my 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, the Hach DR3900 is a nice piece of equipment. It was developed mainly for fresh water waste water testing. Always check the methods against standards. The TNT tests are notoriously inaccurate, even with fresh-water testing. Most of the testing ranges actually go down to 0.2 or 0.02 mg/l not 0.00 as well. Thanks for all you guys do!

  • @drsalomon123
    @drsalomon123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I setup a chaeto reactor using red blue led flexible striplights for 20 bucks and a repurposed GFO reactor. All sides of the chaeto get exposed to intense light but it does not tumble. Flow is controlled by a ball valve. I wonder how important tumbling is beyond exposing surfaces to light. If I have upwelling flow through the chaeto and intense light on all sides, will I get the same growth as spinning ball of chaeto under kesil? Here is what I used: Toogod Full Spectrum 16.4ft/5m 5050 Waterproof LED Strip Plant Growing Light Red Blue 4:1 for Aquarium Greenhouse Hydroponic Pant Garden Flowers Veg Grow Light,DC12V

  • @ogreeftanks9398
    @ogreeftanks9398 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Disappointed that the AquaFuge 2 HOB is not included in phase 2 as that is what is on my tank. Really like this video. Thanks.

  • @franklinmichael671
    @franklinmichael671 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm loving these experiments, why don't more people do this kind of stuff.

  • @CliseruGabriel
    @CliseruGabriel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While I do not have a reef I find these tests very awesome.

    • @evaneversole8546
      @evaneversole8546 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cliseru Gabriel I will recommend a reef if you have time it will most certainly pay off (I am not talking about the wallet though)

    • @CliseruGabriel
      @CliseruGabriel 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Evan Eversole I will, but first I want to buy a place of my own because relocating with fish is a bit of a pain. :) but I will work harder and achieve the desire to have one of them

    • @SantaMonicaFiltration
      @SantaMonicaFiltration 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have FW, you might note that algal filtration works the same there. Algae does all the filtering in all the lakes and streams, as well as all the oceans.

  • @fabianlituma
    @fabianlituma 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks awesome! I was thinking of going with the a80 on my 125 gal, but seems you guys sold me on the h380

  • @TheHoosiers2008
    @TheHoosiers2008 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice. Very honest video.

  • @jackwhitetron
    @jackwhitetron 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWESOME video like always.
    Is it smart to run fuge lights for 24 hours or should I give my algae a break?

  • @frankcava8073
    @frankcava8073 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an aquarium gardener and a terrestrial gardener, I have to ask this question: Did all your Chaeto come from the same stock?
    There may be different color and density varieties out there and to keep your data clean you would certainly benefit from making sure that all the Chaeto samples were from the same stock. I am sure that there are different varieties of Chaeto and that it is very likely that they may have never been classified as different varieties, because Chaeto is so common and has such consistently similar growth habits and specific attributes. (But one variety may grow more densely or have different coloration or photosynthetic potential.)
    Hey just a thought! How are my baby clown fish doing? When do we ship?

    • @frankcava8073
      @frankcava8073 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      :( sadly no. You need to get some video of my babies out here!

  • @MatthewScars
    @MatthewScars 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    More of this!

  • @chloew9031
    @chloew9031 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi when is the next update on this project? I'm thinking of setting a refugium up but I'm waiting for the results.

  • @freddy-b
    @freddy-b 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, i have just started a refugium and now i know i have to get a better lightning. I have caulerpa and cheato and need stronger or better (in color) light.

  • @scotty2salty327
    @scotty2salty327 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video series. I am setting up a 5 gallon Nano and I have a CPR Hang on back fuge. I'm replacing the 7 watt LED light that comes the tank and was going to use it over the fuge. However after watching and seeing the results I think I would like a make a minor upgrade and add a couple red LEDs along with the 7 watt for the fuge. Do you think this would suffice?

    • @BRStv
      @BRStv  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds great!

    • @scotty2salty327
      @scotty2salty327 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BRStv I'll keep you posted. Probably will be making a TH-cam channel as well! You guys have great videos! I get so much useful information from the mistakes videos even as a veteran reefer. Keep it up! 👍🏻

  • @austibella1992
    @austibella1992 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    love all your videos, I just bought a 150 gallon tank, that I am setting up..I also have a 60 gal, 55, gal and 20 gal reef tanks. going to transfer them all in just one tank. 3 tanks is just very time consuming.. I was thinking of using my 55 gal. tank and turn it into a refugium tank is that to big for a 150 gal reef tank ?? . or should I go smaller.

    • @austibella1992
      @austibella1992 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      t.y.. for answering me so fast.. I go on some forums and I don't know what to believe, some people think they know everything and give wrong info.. which can be devastating to your tank.. I trust you and will always follow BRS... :)