All - Apologies about the wavy and strange behavior of the footage in this video. Overall poor quality. The stabilization of the clips got real messed up and there was no way to correct it further post processing. This mistake will not happen again!
This is one small Hondas. Honda does not make cars like this anymore. I own a 1997 Del Sol Si with 220,000 miles ! It still runs great. I am an original owner!
8th gen are just wonderful cars. I had a brand new 2008 Civic SI for 3 years In 2015, I buyed another SI 2006 and had it for 5 years. Still miss that car Last spring, I sold my 2020 TLX A-Spec and had to wait almost 2 months for my new car My dad have a 2007 civic lx that he lent me Dropping from a 50k Acura to a 2k old 8th gen, it bring me so much memories from my 8th gen days The transmission is just great. Even cold, the car and the transmission are always the same No drama, just hop in and drive Simple car, efficiency I wish I could find one with no rust
There is just something special about how simple it is and how well they work. I wish I could find one without rust as well, living in NY and having 13 winters on this one, rust was settling in
I have an 2003 LX with a manual transmission and 230 000 miles (so a 7th gen, the previous model), and while I was driving admittedly way too fast on a deserted highway on a long road trip, the 4th cylinder decided it was time to leave and the car started throwing a flashing engine light at me. However the car still ran and drove and after trying to replace the coilpacks in a vain attempt at repair a local shop at the town I ended up in informed me that Cylinder no.4 was well and truly dead (no compression whatsoever). However I was still over 900 miles from home with a bunch of my stuff packed in the car. And the car still ran, despite idling very rough and having a general lack of power. So I decided to chance it home, and it ran all the way virtually nonstop (I needed a nap), at 70+ mph all the way except up hills, where the lack of power meant anything steeper than 5% slowed me to about 45 mph in 3rd gear. Hard to argue with a car that can still keep on kicking on 3/4ths of itself for over 900 miles of nonstop driving. Especially when it probably would have continued to function mostly normally (it burned oil) if I hadn't been pushing it trying to speed through the night. I will probably end up replacing the engine. Hopefully I can find a donor engine and someone willing to do the work.
the 8th gen civic is still far ahead of its time i wish i could buy an FD2 here in the US but that's a ways away id also love for you to review a Fit- similar level of engineering brilliance in a cheaper/smaller car
I have an 11th generation Sport Hatchback with the 6MT. But I still find videos on this car entertaining. Obviously I like your 11th generation content. Do you plan to ever tow your utility trailer with your 11th gen? Oddly enough, I think some towing videos would be highly entertaining. I also have a hitch on mine and pull a small 5X8 utility trailer with mine. Overall I like your channel content. Keep up the good work! And thank you for sharing.
@@NAUS2KI have been towing dayli in the Summer with civic for years! 1000 pounds total ! Around 15k towing miles per year! Back in the day my dead did the same with a 91 Civic! Now I am doing it with a 04 Civic auto and 07 Civic auto! The 07 does it so well! I also have a 2010 Mazda 3 2.5 6spd manual! Thats the car i use when the trailer exceed 1000 pounds! I love towing with my cars so much! Makes me proud! Tow in the day, RIP it on backroads at night! I have some simple mods on all cars! Coils, intake, teinted windows, exaust, wheel and tire! Love your setup!
This engine doesn’t sound bad in the high rpms at all! Very refined sound. You should hear some of the non-Honda 4-cylinder engines; they sound like they are screaming for their lives when revved out. Perhaps future videos like a walkaround and POV no talking drive on your 8th gen?
Love it. Really enjoyed the ride along. Design still looks crisp. Responsible maintenance. Bulletproof engine. Functional chassis upgrades. And no rice. Bravo. In terms of 1. NVH/refinement 2. Ride quality 3. Acceleration 4. Shifter feel 5. Handling 6. Overall fun factor, how does it compare to your new hatchback?
1) 2023 has a quieter ride and feels significantly more refined 2) ride quality in the 2023 is also better, but you can feel the weight gain and as a result, the car is less playful in the turns. 3) 2023 feels much stronger throughout the rev range. 6 speed means shorter ratios between gears, and this k20 has Vtc and true I-vtec on the intake cam, the R18 had neither. 4) Shifter feel is good in both but felt more “clicky” into gear in the 8thgen. I’m gonna have to go 8thgen on this one. 5) the way my 2010 was setup with the HFP suspension and Si rear sway bar made it handle significantly better than the stock 2023 sport. However stock vs stock I’d say the 2023 had a slight edge due to the wider tires, low profile wheels, and bigger sway bars. 6) overall fun factor I’d say the way this car was setup was more fun than the 2023. At 2600 lbs , it was a joy on the backroads to work. Despite the less engaging engine, I’d say it was still more fun to daily.
I have a 2010 with 150k and it’s been great. It’s needed some work though, motor mounts, both axles, both front wheel bearings, front pipe on the exhaust, AC Compressor, and leaking transmission cooler lines.
I own the same car, a 2009 model, manual trans with so called full-option of that time, and I must say its a gem of a machine, although recelty I have got into a problem, the engine got overheated due to bad radiator, now its fixed, but it misfires during start-up for like 20mins, no matter what I do, drive or not but it will take 20mins, I have changed the coils, plugs etc but this problem remains. any ideas on what might be the issue?
Mine is 8th gen sport hatchback eu model 2007. Only had to change DPF once and wish it had input for bluetooth. I was thinking of buying a newer civic but your reviews and comparaison makes me think twice. If you have driven 8th gen diesel, how does the diesel compare to the petrol ? Love your objectivity and honest reviews. Sound quality is good though it doesn't really matter with your very good content
Hello excellent video , I just got a Honda Civic 2010 with 97k miles , and I like it very much , my Civic is automatic . Is there anything that I have to learn or know about this auto ? Thanks for this video
I have an ‘06 EX with an AT. Love it, and still runs great and looks great after 190K miles. Obviously it doesn’t have a ton of power, but definitely gets the job done for commuting. How did you know yours needed a valve adjustment and did you follow a guide to do the adjustment yourself?
Generally it’s recommended every 100k to get them back into spec, mine were very close to perfect though, Minor adjustments and a new valve cover gasket. Plenty of TH-cam videos on how to do it, just need some feeler gauges and an adjustment tool for ease.
Thanks for sharing this video. My 2010 is an exl coupe so I have leather seats and the "premium" stereo but other than that it's basically the same as yours. I've changed the clutch fluid once and the transmission fluid twice and it still shifts like butter. After owning it for 6 years I still really enjoy driving it and detailing it, which I did yesterday. Totally agree about the the leather wheel and dash layout, I also like the heads up speedo and gauges. I also tow with mine, a utility trailer and a fibreglass teardrop camper that weighs 600 lbs so I like having an actual temperature gauge. I really dislike that the new civics omit the heat gauge. Do you plan on keeping this car or will you install a hitch on the new civic? I have lots of garage space now so I'm keeping mine, until one of my kids needs a car, and learns to drive manual, lol!
This video was actually filmed back in may, I just haven’t had a chance to post it. I sold the car in July. I do miss it and how raw it was. My new 2023 has had a bunch of issues already less than a year old. I do plan to put a hitch on the new civic, probably in the spring. Thanks for the comment!
I've got an auto 2002 civic lx (127bhp d15b vtec engine & 0-100km in 13secs) rn and wanna get a manual 2009 civic ex. Do you think ur 0-100km is around 10secs (could u plz test it for me and lmk)? Thanks
0-100km times for civics is the wrong stat to look at when buying one. 8thgen civic with a manual is a reliable combo. Not a powerhouse. I do a pull in this video if you want to time it
New Civic does not shift so smoothly at all. Need to be very precise to get into gear😢. And speeds are not aligned in a straight line, when shifting 1-2, 3-4, 5-6.
I had an 09 ex sedan with the 5 speed and another 09 Lx-S with the 5 speed and I miss both very badly. Once you get rid of of your Honda, you kick yourself in the rear for the rest of time!
Both cars have the same R18 engine. This engine does have a vtec system but it’s the opposite of a performance adder. Vtec in these engines is actually ON on the lower rpm (below 3500) which reduces compression and saves fuel. Vtec turns off in the higher RPM to run on the regular profile cam.
I'm from Europe (Portugal) and I have a 2009 civic fd1 since 2021, with the r18 engine and 90000km... I hope it lasts a long time, I don't plan on selling it
I sold it on the factory 16” wheels, I think it was a fair deal. The 200k+ miles scared a lot of people away. The first one who actually showed up to look at it bought it instantly because it’s in better condition than most other 8th gen’s with less than 100k miles
All - Apologies about the wavy and strange behavior of the footage in this video. Overall poor quality. The stabilization of the clips got real messed up and there was no way to correct it further post processing. This mistake will not happen again!
Don't sell yourself short man! This was right up there with Topher/Tedward content in my opinion. Looking forward to some future videos!
This is one small Hondas. Honda does not make cars like this anymore. I own a 1997 Del Sol Si
with 220,000 miles ! It still runs great. I am an original owner!
8th gen ftw
8th gen are just wonderful cars. I had a brand new 2008 Civic SI for 3 years
In 2015, I buyed another SI 2006 and had it for 5 years. Still miss that car
Last spring, I sold my 2020 TLX A-Spec and had to wait almost 2 months for my new car
My dad have a 2007 civic lx that he lent me
Dropping from a 50k Acura to a 2k old 8th gen, it bring me so much memories from my 8th gen days
The transmission is just great. Even cold, the car and the transmission are always the same
No drama, just hop in and drive
Simple car, efficiency
I wish I could find one with no rust
There is just something special about how simple it is and how well they work. I wish I could find one without rust as well, living in NY and having 13 winters on this one, rust was settling in
Awesome! I have a 2012 Civic LX. Auto trans. 235k miles....only maintenance done was oil changes.
I have an 2003 LX with a manual transmission and 230 000 miles (so a 7th gen, the previous model), and while I was driving admittedly way too fast on a deserted highway on a long road trip, the 4th cylinder decided it was time to leave and the car started throwing a flashing engine light at me. However the car still ran and drove and after trying to replace the coilpacks in a vain attempt at repair a local shop at the town I ended up in informed me that Cylinder no.4 was well and truly dead (no compression whatsoever).
However I was still over 900 miles from home with a bunch of my stuff packed in the car. And the car still ran, despite idling very rough and having a general lack of power. So I decided to chance it home, and it ran all the way virtually nonstop (I needed a nap), at 70+ mph all the way except up hills, where the lack of power meant anything steeper than 5% slowed me to about 45 mph in 3rd gear. Hard to argue with a car that can still keep on kicking on 3/4ths of itself for over 900 miles of nonstop driving. Especially when it probably would have continued to function mostly normally (it burned oil) if I hadn't been pushing it trying to speed through the night.
I will probably end up replacing the engine. Hopefully I can find a donor engine and someone willing to do the work.
the 8th gen civic is still far ahead of its time
i wish i could buy an FD2 here in the US but that's a ways away
id also love for you to review a Fit- similar level of engineering brilliance in a cheaper/smaller car
Fits are awesome but I was always more drawn to the 8th civic though, I think it’s much better looking. Interior and exterior
I'm loving this format. I'd love to see an unnarrated POV in a similar format on the 11th gen some time.
I have a couple videos on the Channel already in this format with the 11thgen, but more to come! Thanks for the comment man!
I miss my 2010 ex 2dr to this day! I looooved the steering feel, so balanced and sharp with summer Toyos. Sold it at 100k miles. Shoulda kept it.
I have an 11th generation Sport Hatchback with the 6MT. But I still find videos on this car entertaining. Obviously I like your 11th generation content. Do you plan to ever tow your utility trailer with your 11th gen? Oddly enough, I think some towing videos would be highly entertaining. I also have a hitch on mine and pull a small 5X8 utility trailer with mine. Overall I like your channel content. Keep up the good work! And thank you for sharing.
Yes I plan to install a hitch on it this spring! Thanks for the comment!
@@NAUS2KI have been towing dayli in the Summer with civic for years! 1000 pounds total ! Around 15k towing miles per year! Back in the day my dead did the same with a 91 Civic! Now I am doing it with a 04 Civic auto and 07 Civic auto! The 07 does it so well! I also have a 2010 Mazda 3 2.5 6spd manual! Thats the car i use when the trailer exceed 1000 pounds! I love towing with my cars so much! Makes me proud! Tow in the day, RIP it on backroads at night! I have some simple mods on all cars! Coils, intake, teinted windows, exaust, wheel and tire! Love your setup!
This engine doesn’t sound bad in the high rpms at all! Very refined sound. You should hear some of the non-Honda 4-cylinder engines; they sound like they are screaming for their lives when revved out.
Perhaps future videos like a walkaround and POV no talking drive on your 8th gen?
Love the mugen rep wheels. Probs my fave wheel on 8th gens
Me too! I can’t see myself ever selling these
Love it. Really enjoyed the ride along.
Design still looks crisp. Responsible maintenance. Bulletproof engine. Functional chassis upgrades. And no rice. Bravo.
In terms of 1. NVH/refinement 2. Ride quality 3. Acceleration 4. Shifter feel 5. Handling 6. Overall fun factor, how does it compare to your new hatchback?
1) 2023 has a quieter ride and feels significantly more refined 2) ride quality in the 2023 is also better, but you can feel the weight gain and as a result, the car is less playful in the turns. 3) 2023 feels much stronger throughout the rev range. 6 speed means shorter ratios between gears, and this k20 has Vtc and true I-vtec on the intake cam, the R18 had neither. 4) Shifter feel is good in both but felt more “clicky” into gear in the 8thgen. I’m gonna have to go 8thgen on this one. 5) the way my 2010 was setup with the HFP suspension and Si rear sway bar made it handle significantly better than the stock 2023 sport. However stock vs stock I’d say the 2023 had a slight edge due to the wider tires, low profile wheels, and bigger sway bars. 6) overall fun factor I’d say the way this car was setup was more fun than the 2023. At 2600 lbs , it was a joy on the backroads to work. Despite the less engaging engine, I’d say it was still more fun to daily.
@@NAUS2K Thanks so much for the detailed response!
I have a 2010 with 150k and it’s been great. It’s needed some work though, motor mounts, both axles, both front wheel bearings, front pipe on the exhaust, AC Compressor, and leaking transmission cooler lines.
Want an 8th gen civic go with 2010-2011 earlier years had issues with cracking engine blocks
My 2008 has been parked for two weeks waiting on an axle, really missing the drive
Love this car I wanna get one now to daily
I own the same car, a 2009 model, manual trans with so called full-option of that time, and I must say its a gem of a machine, although recelty I have got into a problem, the engine got overheated due to bad radiator, now its fixed, but it misfires during start-up for like 20mins, no matter what I do, drive or not but it will take 20mins, I have changed the coils, plugs etc but this problem remains. any ideas on what might be the issue?
how much did u get it???
Mine is 8th gen sport hatchback eu model 2007. Only had to change DPF once and wish it had input for bluetooth.
I was thinking of buying a newer civic but your reviews and comparaison makes me think twice.
If you have driven 8th gen diesel, how does the diesel compare to the petrol ?
Love your objectivity and honest reviews. Sound quality is good though it doesn't really matter with your very good content
Thank you for the feedback! In the US Honda does not sell anything diesel so I can’t comment on that.
Hello excellent video , I just got a Honda Civic 2010 with 97k miles , and I like it very much , my Civic is automatic .
Is there anything that I have to learn or know about this auto ?
Thanks for this video
I have an ‘06 EX with an AT. Love it, and still runs great and looks great after 190K miles. Obviously it doesn’t have a ton of power, but definitely gets the job done for commuting. How did you know yours needed a valve adjustment and did you follow a guide to do the adjustment yourself?
Generally it’s recommended every 100k to get them back into spec, mine were very close to perfect though, Minor adjustments and a new valve cover gasket. Plenty of TH-cam videos on how to do it, just need some feeler gauges and an adjustment tool for ease.
@@NAUS2Kthanks! Love your videos, and love comparisons between the 8th and 11th gens. I’m looking to upgrade at some point to an 11th gen Sport Hatch.
Thanks for sharing this video. My 2010 is an exl coupe so I have leather seats and the "premium" stereo but other than that it's basically the same as yours. I've changed the clutch fluid once and the transmission fluid twice and it still shifts like butter. After owning it for 6 years I still really enjoy driving it and detailing it, which I did yesterday. Totally agree about the the leather wheel and dash layout, I also like the heads up speedo and gauges. I also tow with mine, a utility trailer and a fibreglass teardrop camper that weighs 600 lbs so I like having an actual temperature gauge. I really dislike that the new civics omit the heat gauge. Do you plan on keeping this car or will you install a hitch on the new civic? I have lots of garage space now so I'm keeping mine, until one of my kids needs a car, and learns to drive manual, lol!
This video was actually filmed back in may, I just haven’t had a chance to post it. I sold the car in July. I do miss it and how raw it was. My new 2023 has had a bunch of issues already less than a year old. I do plan to put a hitch on the new civic, probably in the spring. Thanks for the comment!
I have a 2010 Honda civic. I still can't get used to the "ride". It now has 128000 miles on it, purchased ut about 80000.
You should do more 8th gen vids!
Check out my channel and playlists, I have 100+ videos on my old 8thgen FA5. Unfortunately the car in this video I sold July 2023
I've got an auto 2002 civic lx (127bhp d15b vtec engine & 0-100km in 13secs) rn and wanna get a manual 2009 civic ex. Do you think ur 0-100km is around 10secs (could u plz test it for me and lmk)? Thanks
0-100km times for civics is the wrong stat to look at when buying one. 8thgen civic with a manual is a reliable combo. Not a powerhouse. I do a pull in this video if you want to time it
New Civic does not shift so smoothly at all. Need to be very precise to get into gear😢. And speeds are not aligned in a straight line, when shifting 1-2, 3-4, 5-6.
I agree the new civic is stiffer to shift, I’ve actually noticed mine free up more now that I’m closing in on 5k miles
I had an 09 ex sedan with the 5 speed and another 09 Lx-S with the 5 speed and I miss both very badly. Once you get rid of of your Honda, you kick yourself in the rear for the rest of time!
Do you know if these manuals have vtec or is that only with autos?
Both cars have the same R18 engine. This engine does have a vtec system but it’s the opposite of a performance adder. Vtec in these engines is actually ON on the lower rpm (below 3500) which reduces compression and saves fuel. Vtec turns off in the higher RPM to run on the regular profile cam.
Honda should of stuck with the FD2, and s2000 pedals for all their sport models.
I'm from Europe (Portugal) and I have a 2009 civic fd1 since 2021, with the r18 engine and 90000km... I hope it lasts a long time, I don't plan on selling it
How much would you sell this car for?
Sold for 4500 last July
@@NAUS2K damn that was a heck of a deal for who ever got it 👍
I sold it on the factory 16” wheels, I think it was a fair deal. The 200k+ miles scared a lot of people away. The first one who actually showed up to look at it bought it instantly because it’s in better condition than most other 8th gen’s with less than 100k miles
duuu maaa vtec
Does the air conditioner blow cold ? I heard the Honda compressor not reliable
Yes it blows cold