Everyone can legally claim back energy payments
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- It sounds too good to be true, but according to a little known piece of legislation, we could claim back payments that have been wrongfully asked for.
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I think the standing charge is an utter ripoff
It is fraud on the people. But the troll SirRogerHerwell can't see that.
@@AntonyClayton-eq1ul I've made no comment about the standing charge but unsurprised to see you lie to the effect that I did.
Are you as dishonest in real life or only is it only when you have the comparative anonymity of social media that you lie about what other people have or have not said?
Standing charge is necessary. That's the money used to keep the infrastructure in good repair. Gas mains need replacing and repairing....electricity supply needs maintenance.
@@peteradams5857 No. It could and should be covered by the standard bill charge for energy. Notwithstanding the issues in question.
ST is a means by which the commercial sector (the bankers) profit obscenely at our expense. Without making it so obvious that they would be rumbled.
And wealth transfer from the poorest to the richest.
@@AntonyClayton-eq1ul Could you direct me to the comment you implied I made about the standing charge?
Awesome! I’m in court with bastards and this will add to my pile of 43 violations by them. I can’t wait!
Good luck, please post how you got on.
Let us know how it goes. Wish you luck.
@@mindlover Please don't use this in court, it's nonsense.
@@paulhillman400 You again,you must be earning a fortune,how desperate can you get Mr Shillman.
Best of luck
I don't want to pay towards costs of green energy companies charge domestic customers etc
No neither do I, it’s all a load of tosh anyway.
So you want to steal your fuel
@@londo776🤦🏻
@londo776 I want choices, not charges foisted against us without a say in the matter. Democracy remember that word. I pay for what I use. But I don't believe in the eye watering costs to obtain so called green energy, which isn't green at all. Quite the opposite
@@londo776No. The poster is referring to the additional green energy "tax" that is added to your bill. This is not aid for via voluntary consent.
ICO is information commisioners office
Thank you
@@clobber1401 I can confirm they're currupt and a waste of time
Yes, they handle GDPR breach complaints as well.
I was reading about the pay per mile they are going to bring in.The poor will not be able to drive on OUR own roads.. MORE TAX..Never flipping ending
Actually it seems pretty fair. Are you suggesting the poor don't currently pay car tax?
Unlawful Theft
Do not pay it. Are they going to arrest millions of people refusing to accept their tyranny? Come on folks, they have no authority with which to push this ridiculous agenda. They do not have the man power, or the robot power to enforce any of their bolliardos. 😂
🐎 and cart
@@StudentDad-mc3pu It'll certainly make the poor poorer won't it, dearer food dearer everything,Mr 77th.
Listening and learning from you and your contributors, thank you. Seriously researching how to keep a little bit more of my money. Xx
Fiscal prudence...
@@AntonyClayton-eq1ul Oh yeah!!
"Seriously researching"? Mr. Vobes met somebody in Scotland who is now feeding him a boat load of mumbo jumbo which is being used as material for the continuing stream of vids needed to feed the channel.
Wow, thanks so much Richard, and of course to Lynne for sharing the info.
It is false information.
@@matthewdaly6920OK if it is can u prove its false info ??
@@matthewdaly6920prove it.
In the United States our corporation is bankrupt and has been since 1933 .I imagine since we're owned by England it's the same over there just different wording.all debts are already paid due to your shurity of your birth certificate being traded on the stock exchange
Yes, the bank of england is owned by the same criminals.
Where’s Moe?
There is also the Local Government Act 1888. Section 79 Incorporation of County Council (In 1995); UK Public General Acts 1888 c.41.
(2) All duties and liabilities of the inhabitants of a county shall become and be duties and liabilities of the council of such county.
This apples to all bill payments; including energy bills.
@@AntonyClayton-eq1ulvery interesting, I need to research, thank you for posting. Have you considered doing it.
@@lynnyoungman1280 I already served paper copy on my local council, by Royal Mail 'Signed For' service. Tracking Number: KL592952834GB.
Don’t worry Richard we’ll follow you and the clever clogs to RUMBLE
No more episodes on here?
Clever?
Remember, this is a process you must handle on your own. Simply copying and pasting a template will not help unless you fully understand the issues you are addressing. You will be asked questions, and it is essential that you know how to respond accurately. This requires analysing the situation thoroughly and using precise language in both your questions and answers.
You must be prepared to navigate this process independently. No one else can take on the responsibility for you, and no one will face the challenges or "take a punch" on your behalf. Your success depends on your understanding of the matter and your ability to articulate and defend your position clearly.
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ICO is the Information Commissioner's Office, they deal with Data protection.
Thank you Richard
Sounds really interesting..❤
Sounds like gibberish.
That's only for Brokerage fees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! think about it. Don't be a dumb A and stop paying for something you are using, that's called theft, The problem that you are going to have is proving what is and isn't brokerage fees!!!!!! and you need to know that before you start a dispute!!!!
Richard it might be an idea to stop and think about some of these ideas people are sending you before broadcasting them!
Just checked and this is what I found.
Energy companies (suppliers) sell energy to customers, and their primary focus is on providing energy services, not offering credit or lending services like traditional credit brokers.
I'm gonna have a go I've got a dispute with them ❤x
Best of Luck 🍀
Good luck.
@@annelang514why won't yous?
Got a backup plan for when/if they cut off your services?
@oldbloke204 they do that within a few weeks anyway using a loop hole agaisnt the human code of rights or any magna carta. Instead of hating on those who have the balls to go after freedom, why not grow some and join and research and share like we all do ? Helping is better than consenting suffering and making others suffer
The legislation quoted is with regard to consumer credit, hire purchase or credit lenders Not energy companies
For your average Vobes fan who simply wants other people to pay for the things they need, the fact that the legislation is utterly irrelevant to an energy supply contract is mere detail.
What a noble lady 👏
What a Notable idiot
Sounds like an excellent way to end up sitting in the dark with a lot of legal bills tbh.
I only come here every so often to listen to another enormous helping of nonsense. Didn't disappoint this time.
@@fluxington It's quite compelling listening to the mound of absolute shyte he pumps out on a daily basis.
You wouldn’t need to sit in the dark 🤣 just use candles or battery powered lights.
Going through the energy journey and know people doing all or some of the other things you have featured. Your videos are little treasures
Awesome channel, Richard, genuinely. Please keep the faith to keep this amazing channel going! 👌😎
Glad your feeling a bit better
Thank you Richard and Thank you Lynn!! 😊👍
Thank you!
Strewth, the sheer stupidity of that email. The legislation quoted is with regard consumer credit, hire purchase or credit lenders. Energy companies are not consumer credit businesses.
Exactly, but they are supplying energy or energy services via a credit system thereby purporting to be a credit agency by default, so no, it's not stupid in principle actually.
@@JohnCocteaustone
No they are not, they are supplying energy to be paid for upon receipt of a bill or a monthly bill based on your estimated annual consumption. Credit or hire purchase is not their business and that Act is not applicable to energy suppliers. Even if it was applicable, customers are not charged brokerage for their energy.
"The Consumer Credit Act 1974's Section 155 gives customers the right to a refund of most of a credit broker's fee if they don't take out a loan within six months". That's just not applicable.
@@matthewdaly6920
The legislation does not state credit balance, it states brokerage and since energy suppliers do not charge you a brokerage for taking out a loan with them, it is not a service they provide, that legislation is not applicable. You can claim your credit balance back, but that's nothing to do with the email that Richard discussed and nothing to do with the Consumer Credit Act 1974.
Did anyone get permission for the credit reporting. @@JohnCocteaustone
@@gmo4250actually they don't supply energy or gas. They are the middle men, so what does that make them hmmm?
One problem unless you generate your own energy..... You'll be blacklisted and unable to obtain a supplier.
Just a thought !
You don't need a 'supplier' - they don't supply you wit anything except bills!
@@seaspray9144 so where do the masses get their energy requirements.... You don't pay you don't get.
If you 'move out' then they can only bill The Occupier and that isn't me 😁 but I still have gas/electric......
@@telarium252if you don't pay then you still get gas and electric
What are you talking about , the gas and electricity comes live into your home ,so why would you need to generate your own , ITS ALL FREE ANYWAY,
Happy Monday guys ❤
Well worth a look into great job
Information Commissioner's Office
My thoughts - this is awesome! 🙌🏾
Thank you : )
I've already stopped DD & now I'm going to email them.
Go for it !
@@markhedger6378Yes , writing in the dark isn't hard .What silly nonsense .
Always write letters to the CEO not emails, the Post Office controls the contracts between wo/men and corporations (for a contract to be legal it needs two wet ink signatures and guaranteed there'll only be yours as CORPORATIONS can not sign in wet ink, thus this is where all of their contracts fail - no wet ink signature) that is why G'ment want rid of the Post Office and everyone to go electronic as it will put wo/men permanently into the legal realm. This is what ID2020 is all about.
@@marylougardiner7833 Contracts do not need wet ink signatures. That is a child's idea of how the law works.
I stopped DD in preparation they dont like it but my bills seem to be a lot cheaper
The dispute part is correct. In both the gas act and electricity act it states that pre payment meters cannot be fitted if an alleged debt is in dispute (I can't be bothered to find the exact section but it's definitely in there)
A dispute is not simply refusing to accept a bill without a valid reason however
@@pompeyjim It's just delaying the inevitable huge bill .
I am going to do it!!!
RICHARD EXCELLENT GOD BLESS YOU 🙌,
UTMOST RESPECT 👍
These comments are riddled with same shills,they must be earning some serious filthy lucre from you Richard.
Your sure of this are you? No shill here mate
Full of em,same comments by same shills every single video,just ridiculing him and his guests, nobody is that sad, I've seen same people commenting on other truther vids too.@@nikkibaxter5550
Yes, I'm planning on buying land and growing our own real fruit and vegetables. Love your channel!
Another eye ,opener richard 👍
Your work is Stella & much appreciated thankyu sir 😊
I richard mice to see u are ok and back on the screen
Went through this with CT last year. Bailiff arrived asking for money, I flatly refused, remaining in honour. He said I am wilfully refusing to pay which I replied it was a Dispute. It stopped him dead and I told him to get back to school and get educated. I never heard back but find out later (about 8 months) down the road, they did an attachment of earrings on my benefit, Disability Living Allowance. They then did the same for this years.
I don't think they can do that with your benefits. I think they are breaking the law.
@R1chiesART, they gave Breached The Social Security Act 1992 Sec: 187, Monies cannot be taken from Benefits= Check this Out! 🙏🙏🙏
@@R1chiesART Well , what did you expect ?! You and yours are using council services daily . Go back to school , and get educated .
My Utility Warehouse is a bloody telecom company selling me gas and electricity!!! Oh, I DO want to recover.
In fairness I’ve been with utility warehouse for over 20 years now and They are by far the cheapest out there
They may well be the cheapest but we shouldn't be paying them anyway!!!
DSAR is a Direct Subject Access Request. ICO is Information Commissioners Office.
Data.... but the internet keeps showing folk "direct". the request is for Data (information).
Have you tried it yet vobsey like you didnt with the I promise to pay the bearer bullshit.
I tried to buy all his money As money has no value apparently For a pig and a cow But he didn't seem to be interested
Surely, the fact that they have profited further by refusing to pay, they are in breach of contract. I would certainly make enquiries into the lawfulness of their actions.
That is an utterly bizarre comment.
What Contract. Produce the tripartite certificate of novation.
@@johngibson1256null and void come to mind.
@@johngibson1256 "Produce the tripartite certificate of novation." - Well, that's a word salady of nonsense. You can make a contract with hand shake or by ticking a box on a web page.
Just a huckster
Please give us a step by step process as to what we need to do! I’m becoming a pensioner in December and dreading turning my heating on this winter I’d be happy giving £10 instead of nearly £100 every month 🥶
Is this another of Veronica's alteregos?'She' sure does live spouting legalese.
It's a bit too ridiculous even for her . Like all this man's😊 , and his guests' moronic spoutings , it will withercon the vine , a few will try it , and regret it . Shame , really .
Looking back in history the then government said to our grandparents that if they dug the trenches for the supply of the gas electric water we would never have to pay for the gas electric or water it would be free! So they got around this by charging for the said services being metered into the property, so the meter is theirs, that how they are able to charge you! So change the meters and put an injunction against the ceo of the company so no member of their company can come onto your property! If they do they can be charged £10,000 this is legal and all above board!
I can’t use this because I no longer live in the uk! I moved to the Philippines and married a pinoy lady, we have a son together!
God bless you for all your efforts and work you do for the people!
They said the same thing with the Dartford tunnel and bridge and guess what the charge has more than doubled. I do not pay these scum bags!
@@1jamesbatey wrong,I have all signs CCTV etc,I told them the electronic warrant was fake and they arrived with Police and Dogs bolt cropped my gates and was going to spray me, Police aren't Police anymore.
With what do you change the meters to? I appreciate your input..
If it sounds too good to be true….bla..bla etc.🏴
I would rather listen to The Blackbelt Barrister. He knows the law, this lady may or may not.
@@peterallen2904 She's more disturbed than ignorant .
@@normanpearson8753 Probably escaped from somewhere
Temple Bar😅,owned by the same banking family,God created it for the people not for people to sell it to others,same as water they charge us a fortune for poisoning it,same as the land God never gave anybody permission to sell it.
He's trained in legalise not remedy.
BARrister registerd to the city of London corporation.. And his loyalty goes to it.
Everything Supplied is Classed as ....."Your Product"....you Chose from....Attractive Offers Advertised !
Roads are for Persons, Highway for Man and Woman. Is ther a Highway Tax? NO The Police stop you under Road Traffic Act not under the Highway Act
@@untitled4835 therefore the term...'Person'...is Not legally...recognised as being a man or woman ?
@@untitled4835 Riduculous to expect Free expert planning and maintenance of services and amenities.
“Wet Signature”. It started badly and descended into oblivion!
I am going to try this and claim back over as many years as possible. We will see what happens!
Stop paying do it right you will have no problem
You tell that to the bailiffs when they’re taking your property away
you will end up in court, CCJ against you, difficulty getting credit and a host of other problems... or PAY YOUR BILLS
I assume if you have a smart meter they will just cut you off ( I don’t have one by the way).
@@SuperMiloBass I haven't paid for water for the last five years, they passed the debt on to bailiffs who send me letters to pay them i just put them in the bin!
I withhold all payments due to them poisoning me with their so called clean water
Total racket.. How they operate is criminal. Taking money has become trickery. Ive told people this for eons.
Moved into a rented Flat, just got a Letter asking me to pay £680 to B.Gas…for 6 months Elec. ….no contract , dialogue or anything I was just about to settle it as I’ve an outside Meter… mmm
low hanging fruit. Slam dunk...
You have a deemed contract as soon as you move in.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu The point being missed is that it does not involve a wet ink signature by two natural, living men or women. A meeting of the minds. Consequently is legally / lawfully invalid; and unenforceable. Which is when the fraud comes in.
@@StudentDad-mc3puYou must be earning a fortune, nobody is this evil without filthy lucre being involved.
@@AntonyClayton-eq1ul😂😂😂😂😂it’s like the last two centuries passed you by 😂😂😂wet signature
There is a way you can keep ALL your money. Anyone can do it.
Yea don't pay 😁
Useful template -
I have agreed to pay all bills in full upon receipt of
1) lawful contract; and
2) proper bill; and
3) full and complete statement of accounts.
For clarity, a lawful contract will include;
a) full disclosure [nothing added or removed after signing]; and
b) consideration [all signatories get what they want from the contract]; and
c) lawful terms and conditions [only fair!]; and
d) the wet signatures of all contracting parties.
Bill senders are reminded full VAT receipts are required for any and all transactions.
I'm afraid you don't get to decide what constitutes a binding contract, that's a matter for contract law not your ill-informed gibberish or desires.
@@SirRogerHerwell maybe familiarise yourself with the Bills of Exchange Act 1882, which remains on the statute books.
@@Dylstardeluxoh that old chestnut much loved by sovtards 😂😂😂😂
@@Dylstardelux He is paid to post disinformation.
@@SirRogerHerwell He never mentioned a binding contract. Just a lawful one.
They will cut your gas power water electric
I have stopped paying coucil tax for 18 months also TV licence I don't watch TV anymore when the time is right I intend to take on the energy company I think caution is advised if you take on to much at once it could be a disaster you learn as you go along
Mr. Vobes has floated several schemes as ways to get out of paying utility bills. Once he announced that a sort of birth bond method had definitely worked for him regarding his water bill. . .only to admit later that his efforts were a failure. Now we are treated another bit of sovereign legalese. I have to give Mr. Vobes credit for at least characterizing this scheme as a possibility. The question is how this sort of scheming can be considered honorable behavior?
Certainly, a point well made. In this case, I pay for a service I use. I have disputed parking tickets, however.
I largely withdrew from pursuing lawful challenges. I have put my faith elsewhere but still have some things to attend to to try to make sure I was righteous and honourable/honorable.
So paying extortionate artificially high energy bills because of that money laundering proxy war in Ukraine is okay with you,are your M P s and energy companies honourable by your standards.
@@macatac14-kt4xp Yes and Joe Biden admitted that the US took out the Nord Stream pipeline.
I wrote a letter to the water board asking them about the hexa use of fluorosilicic acid highly toxic they are putting in our drinking water as well as other questions, and told them i am withholding all payments due to them poisoning me and until they clean their act up, and quoted the poison act to them. I sent one to customer services and one to the CEO, they sent a letter back from the customer services saying the government told them to do it.
Well the government have no right to poison my water and seeing as it was the water company asking for payment for toxic water and not the government, my beef is with the water company.
Five years later i still recieve letters from a company who brought the debt asking for payment, they go straight in the bin, i have no contract with these people, i put there letters and threats straight in the bin where they belong.
You apparently cannot say you are not paying but you can say you are with holding payment until they clean the water and it is safe for us to drink, which at the moment it in not safe to drink.
You have already paid for that service that's the whole point you are paying twice.
Is this another dollop of tripe from Messrs. Balderdash and Poppycock of Biggleswick?
says claim back anything over £5 for brokerage fees, not the actual energy fees though - ???
The energy company is a broker, so any fees they charge are brokerage fees...
It's no good if you are on a credit meter ,you can write all the letters you want, it's not going to put the credit on
The only thing what comes to my mind, would be creating your own promissory notes and putting them on your bank account.
@@jkhuntress
good luck with that
How many letters did you write?
I just wonder.. Where this is all leading to for poor Richard?
A dark cold house with re-possesion orders and thousands in legal fees. No crystal ball required.
Your Dangerous, if i was the supply company i would install a pre payment meter, if you bypass this disconnect from the road.
A Direct debit is credit agreement.
Lovely thank you!
So we are in the realms of trying to get back money that has been paid for a service.
This channel full of dreamers.
I Wouldn't say dreamers, Dim Witted thick idiots
@@londo776looking at yourself in the mirror?? You thick dim witted idiot 😂
@@londo776 The unpleasant core of the “truther” movement isn’t a search for “the truth”, it’s about how to get other people to pay for the things they want and/or need
I’d rather be governed by the mob than WEFminister
Surely the “energy supplier/broker” can disown the end user/plaintiff and inform all other suppliers not to provide any services to that prospective user.
Granted, the user/plaintiff may win their dispute and receive their monies but it would be a Pyrrhic victory as no supplier would accept them as a client for their services.
I think the advice is dangerous. Many people will just believe this stop paying their bilks and get into alot of trouble. Richard i think you shoukd be a little more responsible hun x
If you stop paying and 'move' you still get supplied with gas/electric love
I don’t pay for the gas or electric, haven’t for 3 years or so
do you receive gas an electricity?
@@lesreid2704 read his comment again
@@lesreid2704 No , he pays for it . Why do people expect us to believe this laughable nonsense .?
@@normanpearson8753 your response suggests you've had some experience in this matter, why don't you tell us about it.
When are you due for release?😄
Dear Richard and reader, if you digitally signed an online agreement you will want to ascertain the legality of this... I'm certain online, digital signatures on an agreement are accepted as the in person wet ink.
They will lie about it but it is not lawful.
@@JohnofthefamilySmith the Electronic Communications Act 2020 says you’re wrong.
Sets timer for 5 mins
“All acts are unlawful and disinformation “ 😂😂
No one has though.
All digital signatures can be duplicated and falsified so are not lawful and are invalid.
@@crwonshe As can any wet signature be duplicated and falsified.
You probably ought to have thought that through before posting such drivel.
dont want to pay for gas and electricity dont use it simple ..
They are forcing people into contracts and breaking the law.
No that is incorrect…… you still have to pay standing charges even if you never use any.
@@rowan7658not if you are the Occupier 😂😂😂😂😂
Very Interesting....
I think it’s good but the energy companies I think would remove your meter from your dwelling?
still you can still have power and water as is an essential necessity for living and the law says DO NO HARM.
Its not a Dwelling dew dew
Nobody will get into my house cos it's like Fort Knox AND i stopped paying gas/electric 29 months ago.I 'moved' and they just send letters every month to The Occupier telling them how much they owe 😁😁😁😁
Can't see how this is acceptable after all you have used the Electricity/Gas to heat your home you DON'T get it for nothing whereever you get it from by whatever means
The unpleasant core of the “truther” movement isn’t a search for “the truth”, it’s about how to get other people to pay for the things they want and/or need
Richard, I may need to contact you soon to explain my recent court hearing with Northumbrian Water.
Please tell us here - we are in dispute with NWL too!
If you want animals, join the hard Labour party.
The energy provider is only refunding any credit that's left over after they have took your billed amount,this is only if you have requested it hence why it says above £5. They even state this in the terms and conditions when you first start with that energy provider,I'm afraid in my opinion this video could be misleading .
that is incorrect. You get a statement of account ...not a bill ...see companies act 2004. The issue is that Octopus et al are pretending they are a supplier not a broker. But they are a broker. Therefore, any agreement is a credit Agreement.
...I challenged my supplier ....in writing.. in that they are broker (and also do not own the meters as they say they do) not a supplier, stating the supplier is the National Grid...they would not respond to my question...oh yes they waffled but no answer.
As for the meters.... I am attempting to trace the owners through the serial numbers.
All energy is a scam but tax slaves consent than learn
I personally wouldn't use a word 'dispute', it creates a controversy. Just today I sent my last notice to Scottish Power director where I confirmed that Scottish Power is now in commercial default after they refused to provide evidence of couple of things on few separate occasions : that they in fact supply gas/electricity and that I and Scottish Power signed a contract which would establish an obligation. In every notice I made it very clear that it is not a dispute, but I am exercising my rights to challenge their claims as they have a legal obligation to address requests and provide information followed by evidence. Tomorrow I am going to the bank to make Direct Debit Indemnity claim as of now that I made payments in error already have been established as a fact. As soon I will get results and if you are interested Richard, I can email you about the process I used.
They'll just cut you off.
only if you are a business
They can't it's illegal.
They'll install prepayment meters
@@debragraham3207 lawfully only with your consent - you have to write to them before it gets to that stage and declare you do not give consent.
@@Dylstardeluxnope - if you don’t pay nicely you get prepayment meters
Crieff hydro looked a great talking shop location
Another video that Richard will be quickly distance himself from, when the reality dawns….. I will give it 10 mins before Vobes deletes this message….
Yep just like non payment of council tax, complete and utter nonsense.
The bloke is an utter buffoon, with utter buffoon subscribers.
@@barryphillips6845 They just lap it up though. They like to think they are special. And they are indeed, well, "speshul"
@@barryphillips6845 You have to bear in mind that as far as he's concerned any loss to any of his disciples arising from their use of any of the (dis)information he promotes is just collateral damage in his insatiable quest to monetise his viewer base to the greatest extent possible.
I'm sure you know that Pf deletes messages not R 😵💫
For me the issue is whether it goes to legislation/ court or not, otherwise how do you actually 'win' it back? Someone has to decide, no? And rule in your favour.. and we know the courts are not trustworthy.
@@TimboStash It's nonsense .Isn't it obvious?!
They will refund you if you actually do meter readings monthly.
OK, SO i'm going to be sending them an email with the DSAR Request as the subject line. I will also make those two requests: Phone calls and all emails from myslef and the company
I've just seen that it is better to write a letter to them and send it recorded?
Information Commissioner office, ICO is a toothless kitten and quite useless
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Roger that.....👆
What's this 'wet ink' stuff?
Theres no legal
requirement for it at all except in very, very limited situations.
Yes but these amateur Hogwarts lawyers and assorted bolloxologists just like to make up laws to suit whatever they would like to be the case.
If you use any type of product from a company just pay for it.....
People like you have brought this country to it's knees.
@@JohnofthefamilySmithpeople like you shit in a bucket
Aye... Just do as you are fcukin told (sarcasm)
@@VeruccaAssulte You are using multiple accounts again to post lies. 🤡
If i supplied you with a bottle of water each day and then you found out i had placed a small bit of arsenic in that bottle of water, that you were drinking each day would you still buy it from me?
would they not just cut off the supply to your house?
If you stop paying? No. I stopped paying in May 2022 and still have gas/electric
Why do you lot think you shouldn't have to pay for your obligations and things you use?
its already paid in taxes to the grid
@@TrudyEastland-d9w No it isn't.
@@yorkiemikeoh yes it is. Do you like Christmas panto?
@@TrudyEastland-d9w Not forgetting your trust fund that treasury are playing on the stocks and shares market.
@@shapiemau2244 Yes, Vobes fans really are this stupid.
In NewZealand, a power company's version of a contract is in the Terms and Conditions of that Company when you sign up. So in doing so, I would think that you would have entered a contract.
If it sounds too good to be true ................. etc.
Yet another example of absolute 🐴🐓 spouted out by Vobes in his insatiable desire to monetise his disciples collective idiocy. Just how stupid do you have to be to think that not being a generator makes an energy company a credit broker rather than a seller of energy it buys from the generator?
Can someone really be that stupid that they don't understand the difference between, on the one hand, a credit broker who arranges financial transactions between consumer and producer and, on the other hand, a retailer who buys from a producer and then sells it on their own account to a consumer?
As always you have to do your own research and read the relevant legislation for yourself. If your mindset is "it sounds too good to be true" then, for you, it will be. With a different choice of mindset there will always be a way to stop being a sl4ve.
@@dianegriffen2756and yet all the cranks are dirt poor and live in terrible conditions
@@RogerRamjet-t4q Only in your deranged mind where you imagine yourself as a multi-millionaire. 😆🤣😆🤣🤡
@@JohnofthefamilySmith but I’ve never said I’m a multimillionaire, I’m close to it but still a £100k away or so. I wished I lived in a shed and 💩in a bucket like you though John. That’s living alright
Come on Richard talk to me, I would be happy to explain how all this works!!!!!!
Electric is in the air surrounding you it's free😎
Let us know how you get on powering your microwave by waving the plug around your head in the garden…..
ICO is the Information Commissioner Office
A contract doesn't need to be signed, if you have been paying them in the past then under contract law youve accepted the terms & conditions of the service contract
If it is not signed it is basically useless.
These people don't really do actual contract law. They prefer the version they get from a bloke who's been propping up the bar at 'Spoons since opening time and spends his afternoon shouting at pigeons.
@@SirRogerHerwell You know nothing about the law and prefer to post disinformation.
@@JohnofthefamilySmithyou’re not familiar with the Electronic Communications Acts 2020 are you ?
@@RogerRamjet-t4q He's not familiar with anything which bears any resemblance to reality.
The energy they supply is what refers to the operation of the meter not gas or electric
Gas not paid since 2020..good ol Brit gas..🇬🇧
Why do you think you shouldn't have to pay for things you use?
@@yorkiemike They are corrupt criminals and you are actually breaking the law by funding them.
@@JohnofthefamilySmith No you aren't breaking the law by funding them. You have swallowed some absolute nonsense if you believe this gibberish.
@@yorkiemike So you are saying it is not against the law to fund organised crime and terrorists?? 🤡
@@yorkiemike being charged 5x over normal rates on a pre payment meter for over 15 years for a start …who actually owns the resources of our planet…plus it’s our duty to collapse the broken one way system..🇬🇧
Granny state is right 😂😂😂😂😂